L.W. Seecamp 32 Revisited Tabletop Review - Episode
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The L.W. Seecamp 32 automatic was my first tabletop review. I filmed that review back in 2020 at the beginning of the COVID pandemic lockdowns. I made that video just to have something to do. Since that initial review I’ve posted 100 MickMac Tabletop Reviews. Looking back at that LWS 32 review, it was fairly crude and basic yet it remains one of the more popular of my videos primarily due to the Seecamp’s popularity. Sadly, the Seecamp 32 has suffered from being very ammo finicky and from the lack of its recommended ammo. What good is a firearm for which you can’t find ammo and if you do its too expensive? Now, three years after my initial Seecamp review, I’m having some success in finding the proper ammo so I think it’s time to take another look at the L.W. Seecamp 32.
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I've had mine since I bought it new in 1991.I have never had a misfire or any instance where it did not fire when the trigger was pulled.I just turned 65 the 6th of December 2023 and my Seecamp will be mine until I pass away. Best firearm I have ever owned!
@mickmacstabletopreviews8466
6 ай бұрын
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Have had mine for about 18 years now with custom serial number. Such a cool little gun…
@mickmacstabletopreviews8466
Жыл бұрын
Indeed it is and thanks for the comment and for watching. If you haven't already, I hope you'll check out my other "Mick Mac" Tabletop Review videos on KZread.
I got one of the first .380 Seecsmps because I bought a few early .32s. I bought over a dozen Seecamps for family and friends and have carried my first .380 24/7 since I got it. I practice only head shots,aiming for an eye socket
@mickmacstabletopreviews8466
10 күн бұрын
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Enjoyed your review.👍
@mickmacstabletopreviews8466
Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it and thanks for the feedback. Always appreciated. Thanks for watching. If you haven't already, I hope you'll check out my other "Mick Mac" Tabletop Review videos on KZread.
Excellent review of the Seecamp 32!
@mickmacstabletopreviews8466
10 ай бұрын
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Best reviews and Honestly and God bless the seacamps
@mickmacstabletopreviews8466
8 ай бұрын
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Thanks for your detailed info/info.
@mickmacstabletopreviews8466
7 ай бұрын
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I am looking to buy one of these and wanted one for at least 20 years. Thank you for the review. I enjoyed it. I have liked and subscribed.
@mickmacstabletopreviews8466
5 ай бұрын
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@Ratdaddy752
4 ай бұрын
You won’t regret it!!!! You can find em for like 500 or less at some shops
Great Video, Thanks. I have had two Seecamp .32's. Sold one but still have a new, unfired Milford Ca. edition and a engraved mag by Larry. A Great fellow and greatly missed.
@mickmacstabletopreviews8466
10 ай бұрын
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Excellent video. Love that they are double action , giving the shooter the ability to have the hammer drop more than once before clearing on faulty ammo. I have all but the .25 acp.. 32 built in Milford, 380 in Southwick. Hope to complete the collection. Truly the Rolex of mouse guns , genuine craftsmanship. Thank you !
@mickmacstabletopreviews8466
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback. Always appreciated. "Rolex of mouse guns" is a great description! Thanks for watching. If you haven't already, I hope you'll check out my other "Mick Mac" Tabletop Review videos on KZread.
@garyjacobs2789
10 ай бұрын
Still use mine. Best bet in ammo is the pmc 60 gr hp
There are so cool. Ive been wanting one for years. And they do hole there values. I have never seen one that was a deal. Never found one under $500. But i keep looking Thanks
@mickmacstabletopreviews8466
Жыл бұрын
Yep, I'm glad you liked it. If you see one for under $500 would be a lucky find. Thanks for watching. If you haven't already, I hope you'll check out my other "Mick Mac" Tabletop Review videos on KZread.
@georgevalente4223
10 ай бұрын
Look into the Keltec P32.
@PerformanceRaven
10 ай бұрын
I found one for sale for $450, and I snatched it up immediately.
@lavida57
Ай бұрын
Finally found one, CA edition 32. Thanks
Now That is a Mighty Mouse Gun ...! 🎶 Mister Trouble never hangs around ... 🎶
@mickmacstabletopreviews8466
Жыл бұрын
Yep, I do remember Mighty Mouse and the theme song. Very clever. Thanks for watching. If you haven't already, I hope you'll check out my other "Mick Mac" Tabletop Review videos on KZread.
I am actively looking to buy the .380 version so this video update was timely. Thanks!
@mickmacstabletopreviews8466
Жыл бұрын
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@IggyDalrymple
Жыл бұрын
@@mickmacstabletopreviews8466 I wonder if the 380 ammo is more plentiful than the 32?
@rartu
Жыл бұрын
I've heard the .380 version tends to blow up in your face. Frame wasn't originally designed for that caliber.
@motorosso3349
Жыл бұрын
@@rartu I'm afraid that "I've heard" isn't exactly fact...just some people talking.
@mickmacstabletopreviews8466
Жыл бұрын
It seems to be, at least locally here. Price is also a little less for the 380 (52 cents per round for Blazer Brass) compared to 25 (58 cents per round for PMC Bronze). Thanks for watching and don't forget to like, share and subscribe. If you haven't already, I hope you'll check out my other "Mick Mac" Tabletop Review videos on KZread.
I'm shooting FIOCCHI 7.65 SJHP 60g with a OAL of 0.932 and it works just fine
@mickmacstabletopreviews8466
6 күн бұрын
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I know it is a little nuts..I have had mine for some 2 1/2 years and never fired it. Why? Too pretty a gun. I will buy another in black and fire that one. It took me about 10 months in 2021 to find ammunition for it. Now, it is much more available and I have 200 rounds. Probably all I will ever need. If the gun comes available in .25, I may want that gun.
@mickmacstabletopreviews8466
Жыл бұрын
I've heard others who have never fired their Seecamp 32, so you're not alone. Usually it was due to the scarcity of ammo. I wouldn't mind picking up a 25 myself, but Seecamp stopped making the 25 years ago. Too bad. Thanks for watching. If you haven't already, I hope you'll check out my other "Mick Mac" Tabletop Review videos on KZread.
@ronlee7037
28 күн бұрын
@@mickmacstabletopreviews8466 I finally fired the gun in Jan. 2024. 23 rounds worth when I qualified for my CCW. The recoil was a little more that I was hoping for. But, the gun had no issues. I do carry it in a DeSantis pocket holster. Nobody knows that I have it. If I had something bigger, I probably would not carry it. I doubt I will buy another in black...I will get another in .25 if they ever become available.
Always have one of these around!!!
@mickmacstabletopreviews8466
4 ай бұрын
Me too. Good plan. Thanks for watching. Don't forget to like, share and subscribe. If you haven't already, I hope you'll check out my other "Mick Mac" Tabletop Review videos on KZread and Rumble.
Would love to get one of these but finding one is something else.
@mickmacstabletopreviews8466
11 ай бұрын
I understand. My experience has been that they are often hard to find at local gun shops. But I've seen them at gun shows and I noticed that the Seecamp 32 is available for about $520 from a number of retailers on the Internet. Even GunBrokers.com has new ones available at that price. Hope this helps. Thanks for watching and thanks for taking the time to comment. Don't forget to like, share and subscribe. If you haven't already, I hope you'll check out my other "Mick Mac" Tabletop Review videos on KZread.
Winchester target ammo has always cycled through mine.
@mickmacstabletopreviews8466
2 ай бұрын
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For a firearm that is so ammo picky it sure sells well.
@mickmacstabletopreviews8466
10 ай бұрын
That it does. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. Don't forget to like, share and subscribe. If you haven't already, I hope you'll check out my other "Mick Mac" Tabletop Review videos on KZread.
Ludwig did not invent the recoil spring within a spring, his son Larry( Leuder) designed it early on and it came to him late one night. His dad questioned what the spring could be used for. The early 25s had a single recoil spring with a guide rod. When the 32 was decided on, it was Larry’s insistence to be built. Larry holds the patent for the double spring as well as LWS ammunition. He died before bring the ammo to production. Ludwig did design and built two prototypes one 45acp as well as a 9mm, myself and others were lucky enough to fire these prototypes.
@mickmacstabletopreviews8466
Жыл бұрын
Could be. I only have the posted information to go on for my reviews of background. Thanks for watching and thanks for taking the time to comment. Don't forget to like, share and subscribe. If you haven't already, I hope you'll check out my other "Mick Mac" Tabletop Review videos on KZread.
Never, EVER! pull the trigger with the magazine out. You'll break the gun at that very moment. There is a spring between the magazine and the left grip that will bend in the wrong direction and make the gun inoperable. These are fantastic firearms. So very well made. Just don't pull the trigger with the magazine out.
@mickmacstabletopreviews8466
Жыл бұрын
Yes, Seecamp warns against the same. Thanks for the feedback and thanks for watching. If you haven't already, I hope you'll check out my other "Mick Mac" Tabletop Review videos on KZread.
@arthurfranco9191
Жыл бұрын
That is the Draw Bar spring. I have a KZread video on how to replace the draw bar spring. Since Larry placed the warning in the manual, he received many repairs on the draw bar spring as owners had to try keeping their finger on the trigger with slight pressure while removing the magazine and the reinserting the magazine. The magazine makes up the left side of this pistol.
@MarkMphonoman
9 ай бұрын
Excellent advice.
I got a NAA guardian 32 it’s close but I couldn’t afford the seecamp both amazing
@mickmacstabletopreviews8466
6 ай бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to comment. Yep, stainless steel and at about $400, the NAA Gaurdian could be a good alternative choice. Don't forget to like, share and subscribe. If you haven't already, I hope you'll check out my other "Mick Mac" Tabletop Review videos on KZread and Rumble.
Do they make a +1 mag extension for it?
@mickmacstabletopreviews8466
Ай бұрын
Not that I'm aware of. Of course they offer a magazine finger extension (not cheap), but not one that adds a round. Thanks for watching. Don't forget to like, share and subscribe. If you haven't already, I hope you'll check out my other "Mick Mac" Tabletop Review videos on KZread and Rumble.
I have owned 2 for over 5 years now. I gave one to my son. I am ntot sure what is up with your ammo issues... I live in TX, just mail order PMC Bronze when I need it. Never had a problem with the PMC or the Winchester I had prior. I just found some under $25/box online with Google. I only take mine to the range once/twice a year. Never fun to shoot. A few mags to keep familiar and use old ammo...any more is a waste imho after you get used to the pistol. I take my Beretta pistols for fun/mouse gun shooting. :)
@mickmacstabletopreviews8466
6 ай бұрын
Today, ammo is no problem. Back a few years ago, not so much. Thanks for taking the time to comment. Don't forget to like, share and subscribe. If you haven't already, I hope you'll check out my other "Mick Mac" Tabletop Review videos on KZread and Rumble.
@davidorlin3499
6 ай бұрын
With Baretta gun do you have?
@mickmacstabletopreviews8466
6 ай бұрын
I have several, but I assume you mean the Beretta 3032 Tomcat 32. kzread.info/dash/bejne/d6eer6lto7LLp6Q.html Thanks for taking the time to comment. Don't forget to like, share and subscribe. If you haven't already, I hope you'll check out my other "Mick Mac" Tabletop Review videos on KZread and Rumble.
i have an original 25acp i ordered and waited for back in , oh 84. it went back twice and just has never worked. he kept giving me tons of spare magazines as compensation. go figure.
@mickmacstabletopreviews8466
Жыл бұрын
Very cool! I don't see many Seecamp 25's out there, but I heard they can have their problems compared to the 32 model -- so they often will sell for less.
Luckygunner has hollow tip for the seecamp readily available
@mickmacstabletopreviews8466
6 ай бұрын
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I carry either a LWS 25 or 380, mostly my 32s are resting, the 380 and 25 ammunition is easier to acquire.
@mickmacstabletopreviews8466
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. As I stated in the review, only recently have I found the "proper" 32 ammo for the LWS 32 becoming more available.
Been carrying a Seecamp .32 since 1985. Back then there was a six month waiting list and the gun cost $350.00. I put a deposit down on one with Seecamp and it was shipped to me some 6 months later.
@mickmacstabletopreviews8466
9 ай бұрын
Very cool. That would have been about $1,000 in today's dollars. Thanks for taking the time to comment. Don't forget to like, share and subscribe. If you haven't already, I hope you'll check out my other "Mick Mac" Tabletop Review videos on KZread and Rumble.
@MarkMphonoman
9 ай бұрын
@@mickmacstabletopreviews8466 Your observation about the cost in today’s dollars is right on. Can you imagine if Seecamp pistols cost $1,000.00 today? I wonder what that would do to sales.
@mickmacstabletopreviews8466
9 ай бұрын
Good question. I paid $495 back in the day and thought it was high at the time. Today? I'm not sure I'd take the plunge for $1,000. The other thing is that you had to wait 6 months! Consider what paying a grad and having to wait 6 months would do to sales today?
@GalacticTradingPost
3 ай бұрын
that's reasonable in my opinion. there were not many options until late 90's keltec made the 380 pocket pistol which kicked off all the following pocket 380s and micro 9s. holster world is going through the same thing right now. phlster enigma decided to make a holster with its own belt so it can be worn in a dress or shorts. quite the high price on it too, i did buy one for myself but 10 years from now there will be dozens of holsters that have their own belt.
Hornady is not currently on Seecamp's recommended list.
@mickmacstabletopreviews8466
Жыл бұрын
That is true, but forums on the Seecamp 32 will often list ammo owners have recommended which includes Hornady. My Seecamp 32, for example, will indeed feed Hornady 60 grain XTP rounds. But it would be best to stick to those listed on the Seecamp website if possible in my opinion. Thanks for watching and thanks for taking the time to comment. Don't forget to like, share and subscribe. If you haven't already, I hope you'll check out my other "Mick Mac" Tabletop Review videos on KZread.
@Demonbfg
10 ай бұрын
The Hornady works.
Lucky for us some Red Army man didn't smoke ol' Seecamp.
@mickmacstabletopreviews8466
4 ай бұрын
Yep, although based on his facial scar one certainly came too close. Thanks for feedback. Always appreciated. And thanks for watching. Don't forget to like, share and subscribe. If you haven't already, I hope you'll check out my other "Mick Mac" Tabletop Review videos on KZread and Rumble.
Keltec P32 is the smallest. 7+ 1 7oz 3/4" wide best yet $249
@mickmacstabletopreviews8466
10 ай бұрын
The Kel-tec P32 is a good one. At $254 to $382 today, it's much less than the Seecamp. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. Don't forget to like, share and subscribe. If you haven't already, I hope you'll check out my other "Mick Mac" Tabletop Review videos on KZread.
@cryengine_x
9 ай бұрын
not smallest at all as width is not the only dimension in fact one of the less important ones. the length of the p32 is 5.1, vs 5.16 for the lcp etc. p32 is almost exactly the same size as ruger lcp at that point just get the lcp, lcp is more powerful, cheaper ammo, looks better etc. this seecamp otoh is a bit smaller than the lcp (for example, length 4.25). the p32 appears to be the same size as the kel tec 380 just chambered in 32. i had a kel tec .380 yrs ago that always jammed, where my lcp has always been reliable. that said i think they have the kinks worked out of the kel tecs by now.
@730indoorsman
4 ай бұрын
@cryengine_x as I understand it the P32 is a lot more reliable than the 380s. Same goes for the 380 LWS. LCP is a good option but I prefer smaller calibers in this size.
@TomCook-jw6ur
10 күн бұрын
not in the class with Seecamp
Seecamp doesn’t recommend the super x variation of silvertips for some reason.
@mickmacstabletopreviews8466
6 ай бұрын
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Mine won't fire the Hornady. Could there be something else wrong?
@mickmacstabletopreviews8466
6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the question. If you mean that your's won't "fire" with Hornady rounds in the chamber, but will fire other rounds, then something is wrong with the rounds. If you mean your Seecamp won't "load" or won't "cycle" Hornady rounds, again it's the rounds. Seecamp added Hornady to its list of acceptable hollow-point rounds, but specifically suggests the Hornady 60 grain XTP. Remember, any ammunition with an overall length exceeding 0.910 inches probably won't feed or chamber correctly in the Seecamp. Don't forget to like, share and subscribe. If you haven't already, I hope you'll check out my other "Mick Mac" Tabletop Review videos on KZread and Rumble.
@bahslw
6 ай бұрын
It won't feed the Hornady. They jam after every fire. I liked and subscribed!
@mickmacstabletopreviews8466
6 ай бұрын
Could be a slight tolerance issue with your Seecamp - or, as I was told once by a gunsmith friend, you may need to try a different box of Hornady. There are potential production variations that will occasionally create issues with rounds. Buy another box from a different store so you're more likely to get a different run. If the problem persist, then it's the gun. Hope this helps. Thanks for liking and subscribing.
Winchester whitebox fmj cycles without failures in mine. I dont think hollowpoints have enough velocity with such a short barrel to expand successfully. Penetration is most important with this under preforming round imho
@mickmacstabletopreviews8466
8 ай бұрын
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I saw Con Air years ago but I can't remember what guns were in it and a fairly unmemorable film.I think that it was either about a sneaky CIA airline or the Federal prisoner transportation air service but i can't remember which as films were made about both.
@mickmacstabletopreviews8466
11 ай бұрын
Con Air was a 1997 Nicolas Cage movie, the theme of which centers on a prison break aboard a prisoner transport aircraft, nicknamed "Con Air". Not really one of my favorite films, but one of the few in which the Seecamp is seen. Thanks for watching and thanks for taking the time to comment. Don't forget to like, share and subscribe. If you haven't already, I hope you'll check out my other "Mick Mac" Tabletop Review videos on KZread.
Where are people buying ammo
@mickmacstabletopreviews8466
6 ай бұрын
Personally, I've been getting mine on-line. Ammo.com has PMC Bronze 32 ACP 50 rounds 60 Grain at $26 today, for example. Thanks for the question. Don't forget to like, share and subscribe. If you haven't already, I hope you'll check out my other "Mick Mac" Tabletop Review videos on KZread and Rumble.