The R1S is an actual offroad vehicle that can tow 7,700lbs. Where as the model Y is not an offroad vehicle and can only tow 3,500lbs. Plus, the R1S can have a payload of 1,764 lbs and the model Y doesn't state a payload capability. So they're not competing directly against each other. Maybe you mean the model X at least they're in the same price range. Again the model X is not an offroad vehicle and the R1S is. So still not a direct competitor. The closest competitor would be a Land Rover or a Ford Bronco which are ice vehicles. However, Land Rover has a Range Rover hybrid that's considerably more expensive. Regardless this is a poor argument. Anyway yes Rivian is losing money on all of its vehicles except RDV and yes they made a smart move with Amazon's contract to allow Rivian to sale the van to more companies. Therefore, Rivian can buy time to build it's factory for it's cheaper more high volume vehicle. That hopefully will be profitable.

@jonathanmelhuish4530

6 ай бұрын

Agreed. Cybertruck seems like a closer competitor but not everyone likes the looks.

@LionheartLivin

6 ай бұрын

​@@jonathanmelhuish4530I wonder if enough ppl will just tolerate the looks enough for it to sell ok?

@itisim

6 ай бұрын

Agreed

@andrewbland625

6 ай бұрын

I'd like to see someone strap a kayak to the top of the Cybertruck. @@jonathanmelhuish4530

Can't wait for the Fedex Van in our area to go electric. The current diesel is very loud and stinks. Of course, it is convenient being able to tell the Fedex van is here from inside the house. I keep hearing about Rivian (and other not a Tesla car companies) losing thousands of dollars on every EV they sell but is this really a loss on each incremental sale or is this just that they are spending on R&D and factories and people are dividing the loss by the number of cars sold which is not the same thing.

Saying the Y is direct competitor of R1S is like saying Dodge Caravan is direct competitor of Range Rover or LandCruiser cause they have same number of seats and cup holders. Looking forward for an off road adventure in model y in your next video.

I have a model Y. To me, SUV's being boxes IS an important thing. I find the limited headroom at the rear of the Y's cargo area to be highly irritating. The R1S looks like what I would have wanted, all else being equal, That said, I do like the Tesla.

2:39 delivery van no longer Amazon exclusive 👍 Can USPS buy at least some even before Oshkosh Defense starts building NGDVs?

RDV is all great, but how does it compare to Brightdrop (I know Brightdrop is slowing due to GM battery fiasco)?

Sumitomo utilizing $SMX invisible marker technology to transition towards a #sustainable #circulareconomy

Love Tesla fan boys ...but yes it's a young company and RJ is not sleeping at the factory yet 😅

sounds good

You get what you pay for and Rivian, hands down, is better build quality. I hear people who criticize them for not being profitable, but forget it took Tesla 10 years to get there...and they are the EV trailblazers in the 21st century...no argument. Rivian is going a different direction with SUV/Trucks/Van, something Tesla has failed miserably at with the Cyber truck(just my opinion). It's like trying to compare Ferrari to Peterbilt. With Rivian's exclusivity agreement with Amazon gone, the Georgia facility going to build the R2S, decreasing their loss per vehicle, AND a stock price tag under $20(exactly where Tesla was when starting out)... it'd be stupid to not take Rivian seriously

Rivian need to both sell more vans and be able to ramp up production substantially with good economies of scale turning a profit. Can Rivian set up a high volume production line and ramp it up? I am not sure. They look to be more a low volume company. One thing is for sure they need to get on with it as I don’t think Tesla will be that far behind

But can Rivian even produce enough of them to be profitable in 2 years

@itisim

6 ай бұрын

They will because the georgia plant will be capable of building 400000 units per year as the illnois plant can do 150k

@Harald_Reindl

6 ай бұрын

@@itisim but in 2026 and for the R2

Arkansas must be in a tent on the mountain.

Don't forget Brightdrop, by GM.

The logic is a little flawed. R1S is more competitive with model x. Rivian is on track to sell more R1Ss then Tesla sells model x’s this year. Ending of exclusive agreement with Amazon is a big deal though. You are right on that part. But your Tesla fan boy side is showing a bit here on everything Tesla does is awesome. Best Tesla product is the charging network. Not necessarily the vehicles.

You pay $100 a month extra on your electric bill?! That's crazy. Mine is about $40 extra a month and now that I have Solar, it is free.

@jitone1

6 ай бұрын

But then you don't pay gas

A FedEx Rivian delivery van cut me off in the parking lot last week here in Orange County CA

The problem is way to much electrical components that if break or planned obsolescence the whole thing stops working. Or like all touch screen control panel/radio is unnecessary. Also why not incorporate axial flux motors ??

These guys a clueless. In their mind everyone wants a Tesla, no one wants choice, everyone will go bankrupt.

The Rivian RDV has very poor range... And is super pricey... so for a convertion to a campervan.. nope... make no sense!

already, one of my-posts was deleted. Like this one below, I can show you five new articles every day stating the facts you conveniently ignore.

Rivian haters

lol R1S is a real sub and the Y is a cross over . Rivian creating a real suv separates them from all the legacy model Y copy cats . For some reason Tesla has no interest in a real suv. This is coming from a plaid X owner

I'm kinda surprised that Tesla hasn't already made a delivery van, to be honest. Elon talks about it occasionally, so I guess they'll get around to it at some point.

You want to damage Rivian with this terrible post shame

The Y is not a Rivian, you may not understand what you are talking about, but I know better, you are simply over conflicted. The rivian has how many screens? Yes more than the Y… it can pull how much…oh yea way more than a Y… but most implortant it has ability to increase clearance… plugs… I love you guys, own 3 Teslas and a R1T… you are way off on your Rivian reporting

Rivian was too busy about gimmicky stuff on their truck and didn't think about their overhead. Now they're paying for it.

back to your argument for electric versus gasoline, you just spent twice as much and more on your electric truck. That $100,000/plus is more than the total you will save on energy over the life of the truck. As soon as your battery bank goes bad you will spend another $100,000+ on a battery, while the gasoline truck will continue to run on traditional $250.00 batteries. Energy producers cannot meet demand if 1/4 of car owners switch. Due to a thing called supply and demand in Economics, you will see the price of the same amount of electricity double and even quadruple, depending how greedy energy companies get. Electric cars weigh three times more than combustion engine cars. Disposal is a nightmare, no good way of recycling Green Products yet, in fact, they will cause much more soil pollution.

@jonathanmelhuish4530

6 ай бұрын

There are so many lies here, I don't have time to correct them all

@mariocooke5463

6 ай бұрын

@@jonathanmelhuish4530 pick one lie and correct it. then your two friend who liked your comment, you two pick another lie and correct it. You must all be invested in the business and are too afraid the truths about evs gets out. just from the fire danger I wouldn't touch anything requiring recharge

@chris55top

6 ай бұрын

@@mariocooke5463 Why should anyone correct you line by line when every statement you made is untrue. Maybe you need to stop repeating FUD. Where do you get your facts? Because, your so called facts are an exaggeration to a gargantuan scale.

@LionheartLivin

6 ай бұрын

Well I heard the batteries were at least 1 million to replace!!!

@chris55top

6 ай бұрын

@@LionheartLivin 🤣🤣😂