Rise & Fall of Sound of Freedom Hero (Insider Speaks Out)
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Welcome @NephiteExplorer to the podcast! In part one, we're diving deep into the mind of Tim Ballard, founder of Operation Underground Railroad, with Ryan Fisher, former confidant of Tim Ballard, esteemed videographer, ex-Heartlander, and journalist. Get ready for an eye-opening multi-series interview with Ryan. From where Tim Ballard's controversial journey began in the conservative Mormon demographic, and the ethical concerns surrounding his efforts to combat child trafficking. Ryan shares his experience working closely with Tim and launching his American Covenant theories into mainstream Mormonism.
In this gripping exposé, we peel back the layers of Tim Ballard's enigmatic persona, and unravel the complex web of connections between Tim Ballard, the Mormon Church, M. Russell Ballard, and Joseph Smith. Plus, we'll delve into the controversial topic of the second anointing in Mormonism and its potential implications for Tim's trajectory.
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Thank you for the work you do, and I hope this comment is read and taken seriously. I find the discussion around Tim Ballard and OUR to be problematic. It's often framed as if Tim and donors to organizations like OUR are simply well-intentioned people trying to help, embodying a 'white savior' mentality to rescue individuals from 'third world' countries. This perspective is not only offensive but also triggering for those of us from these countries, echoing the demeaning narratives used during colonization. It's crucial to understand that OUR, and similar entities, are symptomatic of larger issues. The resources that afford you your privileges are often extracted at great cost to our nations. The assumption that we lack morality and are inactive against these crimes is deeply insulting. We need more discussions about the real impacts these narratives have on the communities involved, and how perpetuating stereotypes about our countries causes significant harm. The problem isn't just that OUR strayed; the underlying issue is the pervasive white savior complex that drives individuals to create or join such organizations. It’s vital for your guests and audience to grasp this distinction.
@toxicfem69
2 ай бұрын
it's something i've had to grit my teeth about in otherwise interesting interviews even like this one, so thank you for saying something, and i hope you know that even some of us in the imperial core noticed and picked up on this. the so-called rampant ch-ld trafficing and slavery, where it exists, is there because of desperate economic conditions intentionally caused by the american empire for its own enrichment (and the corporations that are at its helm) and exacerbated by--and the customers are--wealthy westerners fat on the spoils gained from the blood and bones of the people of the global south. even this presupposes that such a thing is worse in said global south, when it's really not. if tim ballard really actually gave a sh!t about trafficking, he'd never have to leave utah to combat it. there is a ridiculous amount going on along the wasatch front and tim would know because he was participating in it! this is by far the most disgusting and upsetting thing about tim ballard and OUR, is how it is yet another arm of american imperialism and even many people opposed to what they did focus more on the pain caused to the white westerners participating in racist, imperialist adventures than OUR's part in exacerbating "the trade" (trying to keep youtube bots from flagging me here) and often directly a3using m!nors themselves. its no surprise or coincidence that the people who are fans of OUR and Sound of Freedom are some of the most racist people you will ever encounter, because believing that the "dirty" global south is a hotbed of this kind of thing because they are bad or unrighteous or whatever for not being the imperializers is a prerequisite to get caught up in these fascist fantasies in the first place.
@nuancehoe
2 ай бұрын
100% with you, I've addressed this from my first video about Tim, but it's not the main focus of this interview as direct as you're putting it here. But the racism and explotation in Mormonism permiates throughout. It's part of my DNA to call it out. Thanks for the comment.
@justkiddin84
2 ай бұрын
The point is to expose exactly what you are saying. Cara shows it to you. ♥️✌️
@xochitlkitty
2 ай бұрын
Agree with everything you say- this assumption that our life (white American) is the best life there is. As noted in this interview and others- they were creating a demand where none existed so that they could act out their Indiana Jones white savior adventures. Doing the same ol’ colonial BS with an excuse to make them feel good about themselves. Disgusting. And I agree- we need more discussions about the impact this is having on the communities they invade.
@MyWalk3296
Ай бұрын
Nothing worse than people that think their shit don't stink, the stench they leave is nauseating.
Ryan believes that Tim is “religiously sincere”. What does that mean? I think Chad Daybell and Lori Vallow are religiously sincere in that they believe their crazy beliefs. But why do they believe? I think Chad and Lori had the hots for each other, and lo and behold, they found some religious beliefs (being married to each other in past probations ) so they’re not really cheating. Chad had a “vision” that his wife would die, and what do you know? She’s dead. They found beliefs that supported the shitty things they wanted to do anyway. I think Tim is the same. Of COURSE he believes faithfully in things that justify him manipulating and molesting women, among other things. I applaud Ryan for doing this, it must have been so difficult. Great interview Cara!
@SHARON.I
Ай бұрын
Everything you said is correct. I agree.
@williamburns7354
Ай бұрын
Because Mormonism is heretical false religion. It is theologically false even though the adherents are sincere
@nativemom4992
Ай бұрын
The Mormons are in the 5 parts of The Luciferian Brotherhood. Their high leaders know and participate in awful things and they do sacrifice people and do awful things to children in their practices. They even mimic Masonic rituals
As someone who works in the National Anti-Trafficking world THANK YOU for telling the truth about human trafficking in the USA and the world
I want to know the secret Elder Ballard stuff he “can’t get into right now”
Ryan, it’s tremendously hard and courageous to do what you’re doing. Respect.
@kyleepratt
2 ай бұрын
Integrity right here
Mormonism for me is the rabbit hole that never ends.
@wlknonsonshine
Ай бұрын
So is Scientology.
@marelinem541
7 күн бұрын
The Rabbit Hole that leads to HELL ! ! ! Nope, just kidding ... I don't believe in hell or mormonism. But IF there were a hell, I'm guessing mormonism would be the fastest way to get there. Born & Raised in the Cult. Barely got out with my life.
@colorsflight6432
7 күн бұрын
@@marelinem541 lol it's just really deep. Tons of crimes and other bizarre things, weird things in history I mean there is just so much.
The irony, to me, is that Mr. Ballard would probably only have to travel a mile or two from his own home to find and "help" trafficking victims as Utah is chock full of trafficked little girls. But that would have left out all the 'fun' parts of this scam for him. 🤨
@missylearned9821
Ай бұрын
Hmmm…a traditional case of look over here, so you don’t look over here?
@dadhacks9449
15 күн бұрын
Data supporting this claim about Utah???
@starri9103
15 күн бұрын
@@dadhacks9449 Are you speaking to me? If so, look up and do some research on the FLDS and on a group called the Order /The Kingston Clan and also known as The Davis County Coop. And that's just two of them.
@marelinem541
7 күн бұрын
@@dadhacks9449 No one looks into it for there to be 'Data.' The mormon church sees to it that there is ‘NO DATA.’ And it isn't limited to Utah mormons. But I was, unfortunately, born and raised mormon and as a young teen girl I was forced to 'be with' whichever MAN my father chose. My father's 'choices' were based entirely on their sycophantic kissing of my father's ass, and he truly seemed to enjoy picking the most despicable worms and forcing the men I hated the most on me, as a show of 'his dominion over' me. I was not even a rebellious child, my father was just a world class misogynist. I was a very shy, quiet child (and also never a believer - I mean seriously, who could believe the absolutely stupid tales we were taught in church, from an early age that the prime motive of mormonism was the domination of women shone through), and the closest I ever came to disobedience was a refusal to stand up in front of everyone and 'bear my testimony.' A 'testimony' that they did not want to hear, by the way. But at least I'd figured out early on that there was no way I could be forced to stand up in church and lie, without my father appearing to be the bully that he was. Anyway ... bottom line: I was 26 years old when took my first step of freedom, after 12 years of being held hostage (and just because my father chose my captor, they all wanted to pretend that made it normal and OK - it never was OK with ME!) beaten and raped by the 'revered return missionary' my father had given me to. The mormon higher up response to this ... smear her, so that if she ever gets the nerve up to speak the truth we will already have something on her. One part of this plan was to 'assign' me to a physician (not even an obstetrician) to deliver my first child (born when I was still 16) that was a member of the Stake Presidency and a rapist and abuser himself. If I ever dared to speak the truth I would not just be accusing my 'devoted husband' of a violent sexual assault, I would be accusing an elderly respected member of the Stake Presidency of rape as well. Imagine ... being an overly sheltered child (not allowed to watch TV, listen to the radio, speak on the phone, or have friends) at the age of 16 having your rapist's child delivered by (surprise) the rapist ‘The Church’ arranged to be your physician, while your whole family pretends how wonderful it was that your first rapist (the 'revered return missionary' that committed the violent assault that resulted in the pregnancy) was willing to marry you, in spite of the fact that you were 'damaged goods' (and by the way -that I had made perfectly clear that I hated his fucking guts). Those are girls you should be looking to save. I can guarantee you that there are several in your ward right now (either women who have undergone a similar experience or young girls about to), the young girls about to become victims are most likely at every service, the ones already ‘captured’ probably don’t attend church (can’t risk them speaking up), but their owner's and masters are probably full or part time attendees.
@marelinem541
6 күн бұрын
Surprise, Surprise! the TBM A**W*** I replied to deleted his comment ...
Wow. So much respect for Ryan. I’m so happy to see conversations like this 💙
@nuancehoe
2 ай бұрын
He’s so great. And we’re just getting started 🔥
@toxicfem69
2 ай бұрын
@@nuancehoe very disappointed in you for deleting my comment
Judging from the behavior of Nelson, Oaks, and Eyring, The Second Anointing removes the emotions of shame and embarrassment from normal human experience. 😂
Years ago I started hearing people bashing Tim and i just brushed it aside. Attributed it to an hate campaign or a distraction from the good he was doing. Some of the people were very compelling but i thought no way this guy is doing anything but good! This is a great awakening of the truth behind Tim🙏
@Flash-pp3cr
Ай бұрын
I stopped following him once he became cool with Trump and the Daily Wire. Suddenly his first documentaries where he talked about racism disappeared and before I knew it he was making videos against George Floyd and protests. He just changed so much I couldn't follow him. And now I discover this last night. Not surprised.
I wish he would STOP SAYING HE MEANS WELL! It's ridiculous as he's done nothing to rescue kids and will strike back harshly at so many people. His passion is 💰 💰 💰. There is no proof he's done anything good from his so called passion.
@jenniferwolford7205
Ай бұрын
Right?! It's frustrating. It seems he might still be trying to save face with the accused? I could be wrong....
Friedrich Nietzsche wrote the quote: ‘If you look long enough in the abyss, the abyss doesn’t change, it changes you’- Beyond Good and Evil.
@anthill1510
2 ай бұрын
I think there is a lot of justification going on during this whole interview. There is other people having to look at CP and similar terrible things for their work. They don`t become deviant or offenders. Tim Ballard wanted to live a playboy life but had to twist it to make it line up with him being Mormon because that was his community where he had status and the promise of a lot more status over time.
@Aspenpod
2 ай бұрын
“He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby becomes a monster. And if you look too long into the abyss, the abyss also looks into you.” One of the best quotes ever.
@hlnbee
Ай бұрын
I need to read the book again. It had been decades.
AH HA !!! 👍 Thanks Ryan... I wondered from the beginning "WHY" the Movie (SOF) was based on / in foreighn trafficking.. when thousands of American kids go missing here in America on a regular basis and transported all over the world.. That males so much sense now 👍👍👍
Ryan actually gets it! So refreshing!
The call is coming from inside the house!
Thanks again Cara for great content. I’ve been watching your channel for 3 1/12 years. It’s been so interesting to watch you progress. I’m obsessed with Tim Ballard as o recently moved to Draper. My friends and family think Tim is the “bees knees “ and refuse to watch or discuss this story. I was a member for 64 years and took time to really study the doctrine and history that I sometimes missed. Press on , girlfriend. 😮❤🎉 PS I love your new set!!
@nuancehoe
2 ай бұрын
Thanks! You've seen me through so many challanges ahhhh glad you're here!
I’m surprised at how empathetic Ryan is toward Tim in this interview. Excellent work, both of you!!!
@Rosiewithfootprints
18 күн бұрын
Tbh I don't think Tim deserves it. I think Ryan is just an empathetic person and can't help himself from seeing the humanity in someone he knew up close
Our raises millions for aftercare for these women however OUR even admitted they don’t do aftercare.
@justkiddin84
2 ай бұрын
All banked up to take over the country. 😡
@marelinem541
7 күн бұрын
Wonder what happens to the money ...
@slconley
7 күн бұрын
@@marelinem541 the strip clubs in SLC valley and to lavish hotels and restaurants and bars on their escapades.
My great-grandparents, grandparents and mother lived on Hopewell Road, and went to Hopewell Baptist Church, both named for the Hopewell tribe, so of course when I had to write a history report on a Native American tribe, I picked the Hopewell. In those pre-internet days, I was able to find a SINGLE PARAGRAPH on the Hopewell tribe in ONE encyclopedia. So, I made everything up, and got an A+ on the paper. Now, as a jaded old lady, it makes perfect sense that this "mysterious" tribe is used as the basis of a religious scam.
@justkiddin84
2 ай бұрын
Sad that you didn’t have a better teacher, though. :/
@StayingSanewithSarah
2 ай бұрын
Give her a break 😂 She was an overworked 3rd grade teacher in the Reagan Era. I spelled everything correctly and cited my source. How was she supposed to know I was a liar?
As a descendant of a "pilgrim" governor, I find it ridiculous to propose a Mormon connection to the Massachusetts colony . These 1620 settlers were in general intolerant and controlling, and certainly did not allow others to practice any faith that differed from their own interpretation. If he had been alive at the time, they probably would have either crushed Joseph Smith under a door weighted with stones or banished him to the wilderness for his prophecies.
@colorsflight6432
Ай бұрын
Hey, which Pilgrim governor? I am a direct descendant of one as well.
@JaelHammerNPeg
Ай бұрын
@@colorsflight6432 William Bradford who became governor in 1621. You could be a very distant relative. Many, many Mayflower descendants woven throughout American history.
First time EVER I’ve liked a video on the intro screen that but I’ve been anticipating this interview and am so excited it is here! Don’t know what Ryan has to say yet- but I greatly appreciate his willingness to sit down and talk with Carah.
Awesome interview, really appreciate Ryan for sharing his experience and being transparent.
I love Ryan fisher! I watched all of his shows on Nephite explorer and took a tour with him on the heartland hypothesis which was really good. It helped me realize that there was no evidence of the Book of Mormon. And started my faith crisis. Thank you Ryan for being honest with yourself and with others.
Big interview! Wow…this piece could be endlessly expanded. I hope you will have this person back. He’s very believable. I’m fascinated.
I am 50 minutes into this interview. I am pleased this man is being interviewed. It is my sincere hope that Tim Ballard is held accountable for all his crimes if the accusations are true and factual and can be proved with evidence. I question the interviewee's beliefs. I wish there would have been follow-up queries, i.e., at 49 minutes in, he says he doesn't believe Ballard is a racist. Really? Of course, Ballard is a racist. I'm 50 mins in, and I'm holding complete judgements.
Thanks Ryan! Appreciate your thoughts and bravery!
Great Job Ryan! Thanks for speaking up and, awesome as always, nuancehoe❤❤
It never occured to me before, but... Meso-american model = accept immigrants Heartland model = max xenophobia
@bryanpons6585
2 ай бұрын
illegal vs legal immigration. Stop with the demonizing.
@JP-JustSayin
2 ай бұрын
@@bryanpons6585 You think the fascists accept "legal immigrants?" ... Ya wanna buy a bridge I'm selling?
@jencendiary
2 ай бұрын
@@bryanpons6585 Did your ancestors have a visa when they hit the shores of this country?
@JP-JustSayin
2 ай бұрын
@@bryanpons6585 Laws don't fall from the sky. The laws are what we say they are. They are a human invention. We can make people legal. We can make people illegal. Im.not demonizing anything. These 2 framings of where the book of mormon happened support 2 different approaches to forming laws.
@vickicali
Ай бұрын
Exactly. Glen Beck pushes this and interesting that some in comments seem to agree.
Interesting insights, can't wait to hear more of Ryan's story.
This was such an interesting interview. Hearing from someone who was more on the inside and who has been changing his beliefs was great. I would be interested in hearing more about his deconstruction as well and where he's landed so far since he sounds pretty open minded compared to where I assume he was based on his past associations.
@justkiddin84
2 ай бұрын
Yes, an interview as the trials go down and after would be great.
I hard Tim speak at a convention once, to find out years later how much of it was BS is so disturbing 😳
@justkiddin84
2 ай бұрын
You cannot just believe ANYONE. Even honest people make errors.✌️
I’m a retired nurse (MSN). I definitely believe in vaccines!
I am surprised how honestly Ryan is approaching this topic❤
Excited for this interview
Thank you for sharing your story, Ryan. I thoroughly enjoyed this interview and am really looking forward to part 2!
Great interview Cara! Thanks for coming and speaking Ryan. I didn't know some of this larger context about American exceptionalism and Mormonism. Some of these ideas are pre-Mormon, but I didn't have the full context for how they kind of got expanded on within Mormon theology and beliefs specifically. Bruce Porter was mentioned in Chad Daybell's writings, so he was definitely involved in that whole scene.
I'm looking forward to this so much.
We lived across the street from Ryan in Alpine for a little bit. We lived with my in laws and Ryan and his wife were living with his in-laws. Good guy and I remember watching his nephite explorer episodes and great to see him and where he is today. Tons of respect Ryan!
Such a great interview!! Thank you!
Look at you! What a great interview 🎉
@nuancehoe
2 ай бұрын
I’m just as surprised as you
Can’t wait to watch Part 2! 🎉❤
His second anointing could be a reason why Elder Ballard convinced Tim Ballard to not turn himself in for raping a woman (a his first rape?).
Amazing interview..looking forward to more.
"Don't let anyone else screw up your life. You screw it up for you". Dammit I love Nuancehoe and thank you so much for being a punk rock journalist.
Great convo. Ty!
Good interview, Carah. You do excellent work! Looking forward to Part 2.
Excellent interview that is rare on this subject matter. Carah has created a fantastic studio. with OUTSTANDING production values. More like ths and your channel willl take off 🍀
@nuancehoe
Ай бұрын
Wow, thank you! ❤️
Wow! Looking forward to this.
This was such an interesting interview. I am looking forward to next week's episode. I wish you huge success in your nonprofit endeavors, wish I could help out, but it's not feasible rught now. However, I will give likes and comments and hopefully contribute in that way. in the meantime. Again, this was a great show today, so interesting. I cringe when I read about Ballard showing up at Mar-a-Lago. He is a mini Trump, learning from him how to just deny deny deny and tell bald faced lies. And getting an endorsement from Trump could catapult him right into the Senate. I hope the local news in Utah is enough to keep him out, or that he has a strong primary opponent if he follows through with seeking Romney's Senate seat.
Great interview!
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@nolavee3477
2 ай бұрын
If I was a little bit younger. I hope you will be including us virtual. If this is your first time, you will be experiencing dopamine surges at an unprecedented scale. Enjoy. Even if you packed all the wrong things. 🎉❤
Damn! I cannot consume this interview fast enough.
Tom Ballard and Christie Noem should get together. They both have some kind of weird complex to be seem as tough talking hero’s, but they are actually villains.
To further question the claim he was part of Homeland Security. Gets convoluted on his involvement because he was an adjunct professor at Imperial Valley Community College teaching political science from 2003-2013.
1:20:53 "sizzle reel" is such a nausea inducing phrase. Ick.
1:53:37 "Give me your address! You don't need to know why." Sounds exactly like a narcissists version of an apology
Thanks!
@nuancehoe
Ай бұрын
Welcome! 🥰🤟🏻
This episode is spot on and so good thank you! Also, I wanted to mention that I am aware of X-CIA officers/special forces that were starting these type of companies in the early 2000s, marketing to wealthy men who would like to go on these type of weeklong excursions & get full training experience. So this was not an original idea by Tim. Also, I’m surprised that these other companies wouldn’t want to sue Tim for claiming he had the same kind of special ops or farm training that they did? Just like doctors who are board-certified probably aren’t happy to see individuals practicing that have zero board certification? Maybe he does have some type of Homeland security training but it sounds like he was marketing it being CIA level or special ops level training that he had?
The Dark Triad refers to a set of three personality traits: Machiavellianism, narcissism, and psychopathy. Individuals high in Machiavellianism are manipulative and strategic in their interactions, while those high in narcissism exhibit an excessive sense of self-importance and a need for admiration. Psychopathy is characterized by impulsivity and a lack of remorse, heightened imagination and addictions to sex, drugs or/and alcohol. Even though Tim has been proven by others as a terrible individual, a liar, and an abuser - people still believe he is a believer.
HA! I just had a ketamine treatment YESTERDAY! It was fantastic. There are no words I know that can describe the feeling I experienced. Anyway, thanks for sharing your thoughts on Tim Ballard as I’m a bit obsessed with his life. I live in the southern part of the valley and know many people who can converse about him. 😮
It’s also interesting to learn that this whole thing started with the LDS church connection to a bishop that had lost his child & that bishop also runs an orphanage. I didn’t know this. It’s like the church has its hands in somehow converting the children that are brought here or something? Idk
He’s soooooo close to an epiphany.
@bendyrland7213
Ай бұрын
Almost there
You finally sucked me in Carah! I am here for all the tea on Tim.
Rod is a total tool.
@JP-JustSayin
2 ай бұрын
... and not even the sharpest one in the shed. 🙃
"we did triage the guy" = they called 911 after one of them shot himself in the foot
On these pre-recorded live streams, what is the point of it being a stream? Is that better somehow vs dropping the full video?
@nuancehoe
2 ай бұрын
It’s not a livestream. It’s a premiere. So there’s a live comment reaction section for chatting 🤙🏻
Usually when guys try to be a hero like Tim Ballard or sometimes in the cases of stolen valor, there is something in their past that they are very very ashamed of and by becoming a hero the alleviate the guilt that they live with.
Very sad when a legit cause is corrupted by greed!!
@marelinem541
6 күн бұрын
I don't think this was ever 'a legit cause.' Tim Ballard found an issue that absolves a legitimate source of mormon guilt, 'the trafficking of women and children' that was done by the early church. (The reason mormons originating from the United Sates have a higher percentage of blondes than the general population is due to the specific orders from early church leaders to import/sex traffic young women and girls from Scandinavian countries by lying to them to get them here without their families and then divvy them up as plural spouses to the old men higher in the church echelons.) Now mormons could assuage their guilt (and fulfil their perverted fantasies, at the same time) by giving money to Tim Ballard and going on 'Special Missions,' to free sexually abused children. The truth is they could free far more sex trafficked women and children by a few probing interviews in their own wards at home ... But where's the fun in that?
Hey, hey, Hoe Hoe, You’re doing great things want everyone to know!!! Thanks for all the time and effort you put into providing this informative and titillating content.
I knew about the second anointing but i’m still confused about the excommunication part. Thanks so much for this podcast. I’m learning so much. So to be clear if you have your second anointing, it is still possible to get excommunicated or have your temple recommend taken away, but you just don’t really care because you know that eternally there will be no consequence?? OR are the leaders not allowed to actually excommunicate you, or take away your recommend for something other than murder or sin against the Holy Ghost if you have the second anointing? Thanks.
@marelinem541
7 күн бұрын
If anyone has the answers to these question, I would also love the hear it!
Instead of acting as buyers and taking the risk of creating a market where there most likely isn't one, they should pay some locals to help locate the perpetrators. That would've been a better use for those millions of dollars they asked wealthy members for.
@shannonpeterson1694
2 ай бұрын
That also creates a risk of people misinforming on others for money. It’s a complicated world to gain entry into.
But they did scrub it. Cause I spent like an hour trying to find info about him for a friend and came out NIL!!!
Are you familiar with Dr. Laura Robinson's work "Don’t Give Your Money To Operation Underground Railroad, Part 1 No Seriously, Don’t Do It"?
Oooooh!!
Anyone notice Tim Ballard’s eyes? Big and wide: consistent with psycho eyes... just an observation
@justkiddin84
2 ай бұрын
And very often red as his nose from booze.
@GnosticGuru
2 ай бұрын
@@justkiddin84- ...+ anabolic steroids and ketamine.
That is hiding evidence of a possible crime!! Incredible negligence, at least
lay it down to chinatown nuanceho
How does Glenn Beck figure in to all of this? He was a stout supporter of Tim Ballard
@vmskating9028
18 күн бұрын
He gave Ballard a million dollars to start OUR and then he put Ballard as the head of Beck’s Nazarene Fund
I look at Ryan with a major side eye. He claims “Tim had his heart in the right place” yet supposedly, from your previous live, there is more evidence that Tim was actually involved in abuse of several women than ever having helped a single child. Ryan. You mean to say that abusing women is “having his heart in the right place”? Surely not.
Hi Carah, what happened to your 5 hours live stream video that was taking so long to render?
@nuancehoe
Ай бұрын
I cut it down to 3 hours and it was done a couple weeks ago? Not sure what you mean?
@DarkFire1536
Ай бұрын
@@nuancehoe Yeah. I just don't see it in your videos on KZread. Was it a Patreon only thing? Sorry. I keep looking and don't see it.
@nuancehoe
Ай бұрын
Are you looking under the live tab? KZread separates live and uploads fyi 💫
If Tim has a fragmented personality, then I could buy his core personality was sincere about helping. Being connected to the government and Russ Ballard aka corporate LDS makes me think his other personality(s) were all about the con, with all its ugly underbelly, and the fraudulent money making that goes with these sorts of operations.
I am so confused by how dishonest all of mormon interactions with people of the world are and are accepted.
I've wondered if M. RUSSELL BALLARD was hilled? I know he was old but his death conveniently ended the church connection to Tim Ballard. Thoughts?
@ED-eh6iq
Ай бұрын
All the recent scrutiny was probably super stressful so that could have been enough to cause it... at 90 something years old
@bendyrland7213
Ай бұрын
I think the stress did him in naturally too.
"He turned it down because of money." 🧐
So this does sound like the White Horse Prophecy and a lot of influence from W. Cleon Skousen
I knew he was a wrong un!!! Why would he be so public if he was doing that kind of work??
I am 5 min in and his letter begins with "u probably hate me and my show" and carah is like "never heard of you" is soooooo Mormon persecution complex.
Hot take - Trump is NOT a conservative.
@marelinem541
7 күн бұрын
But he 'claims' to be, and so to his followers he is a Conservative.
Tim has a serious case of imposter syndrome
The deconstruction of…
My dad trapped minks in cache valley before 2010..... maybe he knew him lol
Shades of Chad daybell🤮
Does Ryan know Jerry Gowan????
@wacsowacso200
2 ай бұрын
what happened to him?
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I can see that bc I didn't even know he was Mormon until the scandal started coming out.
I’m watching this video because of the guest. Definitely want to hear what he had to say. If it wasn’t for the fact that there’s so much constant chatting that takes place before the point is actually made I would watch more of this girl’s content. Here we are 15 minutes into the video and still nothing specific about Tim Ballard still. I’m not sure why we can’t just get to the points of topic.
Lol, mound builders! No not Mormons, UGH!!!!
Ryan is a bit of a hard read
Well done good and faithful woman, well done indeed. GLORY2JESUS blessings sister. Right on. May ur cup runneth over with bountiful blessings from the storehouses of heaven and may HIS peace n grace be with and ever upon thee beloveds, in Jesus name it is so. HalleluYah don't take ur foot of their necks sis. Tread upon them serpents. Yes yes yes yes. 🙌 u give me hope for the next Gen. GLORY2JESUS
Rally cry aka radicalization with a twist of dominionism 🚩🚩