Gordon was built in 1921 and by 2024 he is 103 years old.

@Chaosmakertrio69

3 ай бұрын

Nah he was built in 1921

@ayaankhan20092012

3 ай бұрын

@@Chaosmakertrio69 oh sorry about that

@ayaankhan20092012

3 ай бұрын

@@Chaosmakertrio69 fixed

@ReviCat

3 ай бұрын

Gordon was built in 1920, a year built after henry. Gordon is 104 and henry is 105

In my headcanon, Gordon retired from pulling the express in 1990, and was repainted into a darker shade of the NWR's blue livery, but regained the LNER letterings on his tender sides, and he was also given the number 4469 from his scrapped cousin, Gadwall (Sir Ralph Wedgewood I), despited retaining his number 4 on the bottom of his front bufferbeam.

@ttteproductions7609

3 ай бұрын

That sounds awful

@atanproductions5137

3 ай бұрын

@@ttteproductions7609 well, that's because of Spencer's deceased/scrapped brother?

@ttteproductions7609

3 ай бұрын

@@atanproductions5137 still sounds awful he should keep his own number not replace someone!

@atanproductions5137

3 ай бұрын

@@ttteproductions7609 oh, sorry I have to change a little bit: Even after Gordon retired from pulling the express, he retained his NWR Blue while keeping his own number 4, as he was given an auxiliary corridor tender, which connects to his main corridor tender that he got during his 1939 rebuild at Doncaster Works.

@ttteproductions7609

3 ай бұрын

@@atanproductions5137 oh ok

It a good choice for Gordon to retire as not only has he has outclassed by future locomotives, but it made him realize that he’s getting old and that he’s on Edward’s level. The final one is that mechanically, Gordon being a steam locomotive still pulling express trains until 2011 was possibly difficult because building steam takes a long time to wait

In my AU, Gordon is basically like the Doc Hutson of the RWS. He is retried and has gotten used to local speeds but when needed to pull trains similar to The Wild Nor' Wester or tourist trains, He will be willing to go fast again and after he's done, He gets back to his limits.

As the A1/A3s were being withdrawn from express services from the 1950s and 1960s, Gordon should have been taken out of service from the main express (the Wild Nor'Wester) much sooner. I don't know why it's better to say that he retired in 2011 when Pip and Emma were bought into the NWR at the time, what purpose would Gordon be able to continue pulling the main express until the 2010s?

@megariderfire1994

3 ай бұрын

I can see your sentiment but personally I don't mind Gordon being withdrawn from the express until the early 2010s, it's amazing how exactly 90 years of living let Gordon accept his decision on being replaced when he finally did, I also find it poetic how Gordon finally retired (and got a post-retirement epilogue story on top of that. Even when he retired, he was still able to find some occasional success in life without having the prestige as the top link express engine) in the final book of the series. ...On the other hand, objectively speaking, I can imagine even if it was the final book where Gordon finally retired, I can't deny those events could still happen earlier. Like say, let's say the final story could still happen a decade earlier in 2001 (Shaving off a decade off from the 9 decade lifespan to 8 decades) and NOTHING would change....and besides, the book right before it ("Thomas & Victoria", really should've been a different book called "Edward & Victoria" tbh) was supposed to be released in 1997 instead of 2007 (Damn, prolonged for a decade) and had Chris gotten his way with the publishing date of his second-to-last book, it's still theoretically possible for Gordon to be retired earlier than 2011.

@LBSCRBillintonMogul98432

3 ай бұрын

@@megariderfire1994 There you have a point

@henrythef1guy768

3 ай бұрын

The NWR is a steam refuge

@LBSCRBillintonMogul98432

3 ай бұрын

@@henrythef1guy768 That's what they tell us, but the North Western Railway could have been absorbed by the British Railway after its nationalization, and become a part of it. Also falling into modernization

In my Universe Gordon Retired from the Wild'nor'wester in 1972 when he Celabrated his 50st Anniversary, his Pulls the Limited now

@RicardoGaming09

3 ай бұрын

Also Want to do some a Races in tracks to Great destinations

@ScorchZane

3 ай бұрын

Honestly that’s really good

@ttteproductions7609

3 ай бұрын

@@RicardoGaming09?

6:13 here’s the thing though , if Gordon was demoted to tourist trains it would defy your point from earlier, that being the NWR is a company that earns revenue, if Gordon is demoted to just tourist trains he would mainly just be stuck in the Shed like Edward was in the very first book, and you got to remember the Flying Scotsman may pull railtours and that but it’s how often it does after all it did take 8 years for the engine to have an overhaul.

@ScorchZane

3 ай бұрын

I would somewhat disagree what this point to some extent since the books made these engines popular so that means Gordon could probably still take these tourist trains (otherwise when he’s nit taking tourist trains he could perhaps still the local or more slower trains like the limited)

In 2011 gorden retries from the express because he can't catch up the timetable that's why pip&emma took over the express so gorden can pull slower passenger train's and he still pulls the express only on special occasions on a KZread channel NWR1991

@ScorchZane

3 ай бұрын

I already know though that’s his condition factor (and NWR1991 did his own take on it)

Huffity Puffity, my Express is now your property. -Gordon

The Railway Series Books's Character Developments Are The Best! Especially Gordon's!

I'd like to point out that, according to the Railway Series' timeline, the North Western, Arlesdale and Skarloey Railways were part of British Railways for a while after World War 2, which means that many BR rules were followed for quite sometime. However, given how much the books ( and later, the TV series, titled "Thomas the Tank Engine & Friends" initially) helped to continue attracting tourists to Sodor, it was decided that none of Sodor's railways would follow the recommendations laid out by Dr Beeching. Therefore, all ties with British Railways were severed, allowing each of Sodor's railways to be run independently, hence Gordon's tenure as the primary express engine lasted for a significantly longer period.

I feel like Gordon should have retired from Enterprising Engines to Gordon the High Speed Engine, but I would make GTHSE have take place from 1975-1982 because it completes Gordons character arc and Pip and Emma would've just been built. Also I think that GTHSE should have ended with Gordon accepting retirement and the purchase of Pip and Emma.

@ScorchZane

3 ай бұрын

Not gonna lie I agree with you

I think instead of the local, Gordon should be retired to the Barrow-Tidmouth Semi-Fast.

@ScorchZane

2 ай бұрын

Honestly that can work

Not if your religious and believe that you’re gonna live forever But it is also true to a certain since the physical will not last forever

Once again, I must agree with you. While Gordon in my au still pulls the express, since the Railway Series takes place in the real world, the Wild Nor' Western will eventually get to the point where it'll become too much for Gordon, and the A1 knows that, which makes his retirement from the express all the more heartbreaking to me

@ScorchZane

2 ай бұрын

But I guess it’s safe to say he’s still around, after all Topham would never scrap his engines

@berkshire4607

2 ай бұрын

@@ScorchZane You can say that again

In my head canon Gordon is retire from the express for a short while, but after putting out the fire at Killdane Sir Topham Hatt gives him a new express service for him as reward. That express service is easier for him to do and Pip & Emma takes care of the new modern express service.

It seems fitting for Gordon to retire because it's part of Gordon's story arc.

In my AU, Gordon never retires from the express. It is now just supplemented by other engines (Rebecca, Big City Engine AKA Reginald, etc.) since it only goes as far as Barrow in my AU and works like how it does in the TV series.

@ttteproductions7609

3 ай бұрын

Same when Gordon can’t handle the express Rebecca pulls it like in the S24 episode Gordon and Rebecca coming thru

Pretty good analysis of gordons retirement. I pretty much agree with him being taking off the express and him being on the local is a bit meh in my eyes and him taking the jobs like he did the express or something like the limited and tourist trains.

Can't wait to see it

In my take on Gordon’s retirement, Gordon was reassign to pull a lighter express service which was named “the Sudrian Flyer.” It almost the same as the Wild-nor-Wester, but with a few extra stops. 1. Tidmouth (Start of service) 2. Wellsworth (To get help from banker) 3. Cronk (Middle Stop) 4: Crovan’s Gate (Same as Wildnorwester) 5. Barrow in Furness (End of Service) He also handles special rail services similar to Flying Scotsman and will sometimes run the Fat Controller to the Mainland for meetings with the Railway Board. For this, he was also given a pair of LNER Corridor Tenders recovered from a scrap yard. He only uses one tender on express services and uses both when on Railtours.

@ScorchZane

Ай бұрын

Ngl I love this more actually

@MCstudio1274

Ай бұрын

Thank you, it means a lot.

I'd say Gordon retired somewhere in 1995 because he wanted to pull goods never knowing how good it was pip and Emma was sold because they were not longer... Well useful. If Gordon retires from pulling the express its either henry james or Rebeccas duty to pull it after Gordon's retirement in express, I'd say rebecca takes the express from the mainland and henry from knapford station. If henry takes place of knapford express then Gordon could've expected to take freight cars in the quarry or the flying kipper. But honestly Gordon teasing edward and james would be a bad deal same with percy and Toby, considering their older than him, Edward being 128, James as 112, Toby being 110 and then percy being 124.

Its funny cause Pip and Emma would’ve already been in their 30s by 2011

Yeah Gordon retiring from the express works not just because of the exchanging at Barrow becoming a hassle with Pip and Emma just being able to go straight to London but also his age by the 21st Century being a factor and how it would take a toll on him. He could still run faster passengers services occasionally but not ones in high demand where they have to connect with the Mainland and just be for locals on Sodor. I’ve also thought since The Flying Kipper goes all the way to Manchester Henry would’ve no longer been able to go straight there since 1968 anyways and there likely would be exchanges anyways afterwards but like with the express it would also likely be a hassle to constantly exchange at Barrow too so maybe in the 21st Century say a Class 66 would be brought over to take over The Flying Kipper full time and go straight to Manchester.

@Steamrailing111

3 ай бұрын

I have the same headcanon, just that Henry got a overhaul, and a 9F was used instead

@jaanshersaeed4541

3 ай бұрын

@@Steamrailing111 Murdoch?

@Steamrailing111

3 ай бұрын

@@jaanshersaeed4541 OC of mine,

@Steamrailing111

3 ай бұрын

​@@jaanshersaeed4541OC of mine.

In my headcanon Gordon would retire from the express around 2000 since I think would be fitting. A new century has started so a new express would be needed.

I am gonna be real with you, i cant imagine what wouldve happened if they didnt purchase pip and emma for the express, i have a theory If the time table for the express was meant to be like it is in 2011, gordon could've seriously push himself too much and basically just explode and getting killed, along with his crew

@ScorchZane

Ай бұрын

another reason to entire Gordon to slower or lighter duties

@A-random-Italian-lad

Ай бұрын

@@ScorchZane he did needed stop pulling it or the things I’ve said could’ve happened

Instead of being replaced by Pip and Emma (Hence btw why do Sodor need to have a high speed train on like the most restrained mainline due to trains derailed at high speed?) by a newly built Peppercorn A1 Tornado.

but there is some else, in fan of hiro, gordon still handle the wildnorwester and pip and emma handle a different express train, a new high speed train named the prancas special.

@ScorchZane

3 ай бұрын

the only difference is in the RWS the express Gordon took has it’s timetable changed which is why he retired and lead to Pip and Emma replacing him, Gordon took more slower services. in fan of Hiro’s take, the WilNorWester in terms of time table stayed the same.

I’ve also wondered what it would be like if some more of Gordon’s brothers were to survive and escape scrap (was thinking Great Northern could work being the first member in real life along with Papyrus due to it’s 108 mph record) though at the same time it can be best to just accept and respect what happened in real life history. And I also wondered what it would be like if one of Thomas’ brothers were to be saved from scrap (I’m surprised an E2 didn’t get preserved in real life with the popularity of the RWS and Thomas being one of the main faces) but again sometimes it’s best to just accept history. Though I’ve also wondered what it would be like if Gordon along with Edward were to die being killed off badly which I think would be a major impact as both have been the two most major influences on the NWR; with Edward being the wise old one that’s ready to help everyone and knows what’s happening that everyone goes to with Gordon the main flagship and express engine for the longest time who’s had the railway hierarchy going with deciding how things should go status wise among the engines.

@robrice7246

3 ай бұрын

I know in NWR Adventures, 4473 Solario & 4480 Enterprise run on the Valleyfield Central in Rhendowhen.

@jaanshersaeed4541

3 ай бұрын

@@robrice7246 Yeah

God speed Gordon

I don’t know if you stopped doing the “my ideal” engines of sodor, but if you didn’t I would like to see your take on Bill, Ben and Mavis. In fact maybe even duck or Oliver.

@ScorchZane

3 ай бұрын

I’m haven’t been able to get to it, and I’m planning to revamp the series video format

Could you do a video of why engines from the Rev W Awdry's books aren't mentioned in the Fandom that much such as Jinty and Pug?

@Imsorrywat

3 ай бұрын

Jinty and Pug get mentioned a good bit honestly

@olivergould3878

3 ай бұрын

@@Imsorrywat Jinty does in one video but the guy needs to do a follow up

@ScorchZane

3 ай бұрын

I might go over it

@olivergould3878

3 ай бұрын

@@ScorchZane Thanks

Ngl Gordon retiring from the Express is for the best

Obviously the thought of Gordon retiring from the express is incredibly bittersweet, since that's what we all know and love him for. But it's as you've quite literally rambled about for the entire video _(no really the amount of times you essentially repeated the same thing to drive the point home was kinda funny ngl)_ : all things come to an end. Therefore, it is important to cherish and celebrate life to the fullest while you can. As for where big blue would end up, I agree that the local may be a tad too much of a drop for him. A fast commuter service not unlike the kind that the trains where I live run would do him well I think. Excursions work perfectly well too, maybe even having him pull the express again every once in a while, kind of like what Flying Scotsman did for the 40th anniversary of his first non-stop run from London to Edinburgh.

Ok Gordon retiring from the express in 2011 is a bit of a stretch… and really if you think about it I’m surprised that the NWR didn’t replace him from the Wild’nor’Wester sooner. If it were me, I’d say Gordon might’ve been better off retiring from the WNW somewhere between 1993-2001. At least, taking him off the top-link highest important train and putting him on a slightly more relaxed service schedule-wise. Realistically speaking, one would think that given the fact that the A3’s were being given modifications as late as the early 1960’s, they’d have a fighting chance of expanding their lifespan into the 1970’s and 80’s. Gordon isn’t portrayed as having such modifications in the books, but we also know that the Rev W Awdry said the illustrations are inaccurate some of the time. Therefore, it’s not outlandish to think that Gordon could’ve received the same changes as his sibling-engines like an A3 boiler, double chimney etc. except for deflectors, as Scotsman would’ve pointed this out in enterprising engines if Gordon was wearing them…

Just like s1 Edward

Although i agree that Gordon somewhat rappresents life, he is still a machine and a machine can't withstand working with that much pressure at such age, my gordon has a partial retirement he still pulls the express but most of the time he shares it with my Ideal Rebecca During maybe the 60/70s after the economic boom in the 50s, Gordon would officialy retire during the HST's prime days mid 90s or so, by that time he would have adjusted to the local and the specials but sometimes on rare occasions Gordon re-experienses his prime days with a express just for him.

Gordon was kept on the express in the real show until the switch from CGI to Anime in Season 25, He Retires From The Express In My Headcanon TTTE Show (Jayden The Locomotive) in Season 6 Episode 6, and Fat Controller puts Jayden the NWR 19 on the Wil-Nor-Wester as the new permanent Express engine whilst Gordon pulls slower trains

@astrochaos4182

3 ай бұрын

Bro said season 25 was anime 💀

I already agree with you on this big time

@chavopatyfanstudios2005

3 ай бұрын

Does in your universe his express coaches in the brenner era is his rail tour

@everythingproductions2004

3 ай бұрын

@@chavopatyfanstudios2005I don’t know

@chavopatyfanstudios2005

3 ай бұрын

​@@everythingproductions2004so does he retires from the express but not fully

While it's a shame Gordon retired I think it was for the best that he did

the express its name is The WILD nor wester 😅

@finnhahn9646

3 ай бұрын

there is a D in the name

@finnhahn9646

3 ай бұрын

😡🤬

@ScorchZane

3 ай бұрын

can you calm the **** down, good lord you’re really trying to act like the new villain in town. (and if I recall correctly is was Wil Nor Wester, not Wild, WIL)

I hate how the TVS makes Gordon so mean from seasons 5-24 and doesn't adapt the last RWS book of Gordon retiring from the express. This is one of the many reasons why I love the RWS Gordon.

@DavidBContentExtravaganza3967

3 ай бұрын

Well, many fans like me like Gordon still pulling the express in the TVS because it's part of who he is and that would never change, regardless of RWS. Also, the TVS stay true to Gordon's pompous character from seasons 5-24 while still showing his goodhearted side which we fans like him as that in addition. The TVS can do it's own thing from the books which include Gordon still pulling the express and we wouldn't want him any other way.

He could've just had new parts

@ScorchZane

Ай бұрын

That literally can apply to any loco and nothing changes. Even with an overhaul it’s not like he’s gonna be on the express forever.

Hey man how are you doing 2:48

Well I Don’t Like Gordon Retiring From The Wild Nor Western aka The Express

@ScorchZane

3 ай бұрын

well either that or have been worn down to nothing

@DavidBContentExtravaganza3967

3 ай бұрын

Good thing the TV series have Gordon remain pulling the Express throughout it.

@aweirdredtoad3637

20 күн бұрын

@@DavidBContentExtravaganza3967 Which is why both the TV series and RWS are in different continuities. In reality, Gordon could never make up for the changing time schedules at all so it's understandable for him to retire to something that won't strain him.