Kid just doesn’t realize the hard work, ingenuity and sacrifice of a good Dad. But one day he’ll be a Dad and that bulb will come on. 😂😂

Do you have a pdf instruction conversion doc by chance??

😂😂😂 dude he drove all over with that dirtbike you had him sweating.

You don't need fuses and actually shouldn't use fuses the way you do with lead acid. Any decent lithium battery will have it's own standalone battery management system (BMS) and it is just something else for the current to pass through. I'm sure you know by now but the stock connectors, mismatched gauge extra wire and those wire nuts all draw away from your responsiveness and defeat, even if only a little bit the purpose of the li-ion upgrade and expensive gold plated connectors. I'm sure you know but maybe you don't, also NEVER use the factory lead acid charger on the li-ion battery either. Again, it has BMS and isn't necessarily the danger but explosion is possible and it DEFINITELY will significantly shorten the life of battery. But.. I'm sure you're aware and fixed this but people watching need to know so they don't roast their expensive new pack that came with instructions but they're all in Chinese 😂 Pair a brushless motor with the li-ion to see maximum gain. This will provide some responsiveness but loses much of it's benefit in the junk wiring as discussed and mostly because the brushes have their limitations. Lithium ion batteries work because they are highly unstable and while it's not difficult to tend them, there are specific rules that will keep you from getting hurt. Most battery packs for this bike are at least 30 individual 18650 cells and just the metal casing making contact to another or dead short past the BMS is likely to make it explode and the other 29+ are sure to follow causing horrific burns, in a matter of milliseconds. Look up vape explosion, most of those are 1-3(not 30-40!)of the very same cells encased in metal body vape rigs and literally will turn someone's jaw, hand or any other extremity close enough into a pink mist. Best case scenario is fire/explosion and horrible chemical burns which are very, very painful. All of this can be avoided if you do your homework and DON'T use household wire nuts or butt connectors, or anything else that could possibly come loose or you run the risk of putting your most sensitive parts right in the line of danger. Believe me not worth saving the money or saving a few minutes. I'm sure the vid maker won't like this comment but it was irresponsible on their behalf to not mention ANY of this and more than that, send his own kid out like this because either they didn't do their research, or worse, realized and didn't care enough to take the time to do it correctly, then make an informational install showing how, so I don't really care. Please, take the proper safety precautions, helmets, proper maintenance and install of all components but especially lithium ion cells they are NOT as forgiving as lead acid and those fuses WON'T help your testicles from getting blown off and you'll really regret it when you find out there wasn't much benefit.

@themagicphoneboothq4529

5 жыл бұрын

Z Ro hey so I’m thinking of putting in a 48v 25ah in my razor mx650 I’m changing the speed controller and everything but I’m just asking if I should keep on the battery covers or not or should I drill holes into them for cooling

Hi Tim, can I install the new battery also without the voltmeter? Since it has a BMS it should shut off the battery when it gets too low. Is that correct?

@TimArmbruster

4 жыл бұрын

Yes for sure. The volt meter is for convenience. Because of the BMS and nature of lithium batteries, it will just cut off without much of a dip in power. So, unlike the lead acid it will leave you stranded without much warning. If you know the BMS cutoff voltage, and watch the voltage with the volt meter, you can avoid getting stranded. That's why I installed, but technically not necessary.

Also are the fuses necessary or would you change the way it was wired if/when you do another upgrade????

@muhametrizvani5762

4 жыл бұрын

?????

Where can i buy my motor control of my mx650

You said that the battery should give a 20 mile range, would the motor on the mx650 be able to handle that? What would be the wear and tear on the rest of the bike after doing this modification?

@TimArmbruster

4 жыл бұрын

No problems with bike and no additional wear and tear

Hi there. Awesome video. I will be following it when I upgrade. Does the factory low battery indicator, the yellow light by the throttle, still come on when it's low? Thx

@TimArmbruster

4 жыл бұрын

I basically ignore the factory lights. You need to watch the voltage indicator to see when it gets close the voltage where the BMS cuts it off. Works well.

@MichaelH-1

4 жыл бұрын

@@TimArmbruster I see. One more question. I found a similar battery on ebay but it's a little bigger. It's 9.65"x6.89"x3.35". Do you think that will fit?

@TimArmbruster

4 жыл бұрын

@@MichaelH-1 I think that's too wide, and maybe too long as well. If you are looking for a cheaper option than what I used, I did install this one for a neighbor and it has been working fine for a few months now. www.ebay.com/itm/Li-ion-Battery-36V-20AH-Volt-Rechargeable-Bicycle-500W-E-Bike-Electric-Li-ion/273891927949?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649

@michaezell4607

3 жыл бұрын

@@TimArmbruster How difficult is it to install a variable speed throttle on a razor scooter? I'd like to install one on my razor pocket mod scooter because the stock throttle is a bit to fast for my liking but don't want to have to swap out the speed controller to do so. Do you have to change the speed controller in order to use a variable speed throttle or can you just swap out the stock throttle grip and it's good to go? I've only driven it once in the three weeks since I bought it after having a low speed wipeout my first time driving it and to be honest I'm quite scared to get back on it again as that thing goes pretty fast at a top speed of 15 MPH.

@TimArmbruster

3 жыл бұрын

@@michaezell4607 yes you have to change speed controller. Not hard though

MX650 Rear Tire Change and Fresh Look! kzread.info/dash/bejne/oYtnmM2CYKa9ibA.html Tips for replacing the Razor MX650 or MX500 rear tire, which is a royal pain. I'm also painting the back rim and adding some spoke protectors for a fresh look.

What difference in range did you see as opposed to stock?

@TimArmbruster

4 жыл бұрын

To be honest I have never run it down all the way. I've ridden it for a couple of hours at a track and was ok. According to the math it should be double stock (20 miles) which seems right Never wanted to ride this more than 20miles.

per charge, how long does it last compared to the led acid? 45 min? 2 hours?

@TimArmbruster

2 жыл бұрын

2 hours

So I just found a little rx350 on my garbage route, batteries are shot. I wanna make it go a good 20 mph but not sure how electric motors and stuff work. So between doing a battery upgrade or just throwin a little motor on it

@TimArmbruster

4 жыл бұрын

Do you have Facebook? I haven't modified RX350`s but there's a group with guys who could help. It's called "Modified Razors"

hey so at what volatage does this cut off about to do this to my mx500

@TimArmbruster

4 жыл бұрын

Depends on the battery you buy. It will tell you what the low voltage cutoff is for your battery in the specs.

Did you use the standard speed controller?

@TimArmbruster

3 жыл бұрын

Yes

After using this for a while how is it holding up? Is the range significantly better than the lead acid batteries? How about Hills?

@TimArmbruster

4 жыл бұрын

Holding up perfectly .. I haven't seen any performance degradation since installing. Range, yes, is significantly better than lead acid. We probably get about 2 hours of ride time riding at track. Hard to say because we literally have never run the battery completely down. Regarding Hills / Speed / power .. for this upgrade there is not much difference from lead acid. The voltage is the same as lead acid, and the rest of the power train is unchanged. I have done a 48v lithium upgrade on a different bike and that is much more expensive but goes so much faster, climbs hills better, etc.

@kennyfoster2837

4 жыл бұрын

@@TimArmbruster Thanks! We use a couple of these bikes at campgrounds just to bop around. The conversion would make them a whole bunch more useful.

@tc9337

4 жыл бұрын

Tim, looking at converting 2 650 razors to the 48 but concerned how much faster do they go? A 10 and 8 yr old are using the current stock 650 models...

@TimArmbruster

4 жыл бұрын

@@tc9337 they are considerably faster. I would say in the 25-30 mph range vs. 18-20 mph. May not seem like much but yes brings in different safety considerations.

So was going to do the 48v 1800 watt with the 4 lead acids, would this be a better bang for the buck? Considering I wouldnt have to get the kit just battery and charger? And how much less power is this compared to the 48v lead acid route? Ive got about 350.00 bucks US to play with trying to figure out the best route to take, just picked up the sx500 for 60 bucks batteries are shot which I knew when purchasing, thank you for any info also for this video!

@JustinTwilley

3 жыл бұрын

Or should I keep saving get the 48v motor/ controller kit and a 48v lipo and charger? Would it be worth the extra power?

@TimArmbruster

3 жыл бұрын

There is a substantial difference in power between 48v and 36v. 36v will get you 17mph, while most 48v systems will get you 25-30mph. For $350, I would do a 48v overvolt kit off of ebay, and a lithium 48v battery. I think that would be the best bank for your buck, and fits your budget.

@JustinTwilley

3 жыл бұрын

@@TimArmbruster Thanks man! Is there a battery pack kit and charger you can link me to or recommend?

@kcjuengst7007

3 жыл бұрын

@@JustinTwilley did you upgrade to 48 volt? If so what kit did you get?

@bruzza4113

Жыл бұрын

I know it's a year later you're probably went with Lion lithium battery by now that's what I'm going to do 1800 watt same as 20001 battery is 360 somewhere around there in the 1800 watt kit is not even 200 bucks just going to put a smaller back sprocket on the back and they should be set,, I hope you are doing good with your bike

Can you use the stock charger with this set up?

@TimArmbruster

2 жыл бұрын

Some people have, but no, I would not suggest that. Most lithium batteries you buy will come with a charger to wire up. Use the one that comes with the battery.

Where did you purchase the batteries from interested

@TimArmbruster

4 жыл бұрын

Seller koyochen on eBay

All the Razor lithium battery upgrades use lithium-ion is that because lithium iron phosphate wouldn't work or because lithium-ion is cheaper? Thanks.

@TimArmbruster

4 жыл бұрын

Lithium Iron Phosphate is a type of lithium ion. I have used Lithium Iron Phosphate in a Razor.

@rodney6334

4 жыл бұрын

Great thanks!

@rodney6334

4 жыл бұрын

I was thinking of getting this battery. www.ebay.com/itm/36V-20Ah-Lithium-LiFePO4-Battery-Pack-For-750W-Electric-Bike-Scooter-5A-Charger-/163213703247 But the seller recommended this one which I believe is the one you used. He may have just been out of the other one. www.ebay.com/itm/36V-18Ah-Lithium-Li-ion-Battery-Pack-For-36V-750W-Scooter-Electric-Bike-Charger-/153006091071 I got my nephews kid a 650 last year and he has a little brother that will take over for him when he out grows it. 1000 charges probably wouldn't make it without another battery change but 2,000 might. That's why I'm thinking about the LiFePO4.

@TimArmbruster

4 жыл бұрын

@@rodney6334 either of those batteries will work. The first link is the better battery.

@rodney6334

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much! Great video incidentally.

Hello curious on how much the Lithium ion battery cost?

@TimArmbruster

4 жыл бұрын

That one cost me $336.72 USD. But, I have purchased other 36V 20AH batteries for little over $200 USD since then.

@muhametrizvani5762

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks brother

@b3nault1

Жыл бұрын

Looking for a 36v ~20A li-ion pack, would you mind making a suggesting based on your experience? I’m hoping best bang for buck. :)

Does the battery make it run longer time?

@TimArmbruster

3 жыл бұрын

Oh yes. Much longer.

2 days why 12 hours is the most I've heard

The battery was slipping a bit in the case so I made a modification that you can watch here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/oI2FusiQlbOofbQ.html

Are there four batteries in it or 3

@TimArmbruster

2 жыл бұрын

One.

Can I please get the links to the battery and charger

@TimArmbruster

5 жыл бұрын

Battery pack includes charger rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F273457871823

@jdavies

4 жыл бұрын

@@TimArmbruster Is the LifePO4 the way to go, or the Li-Ion?

@TimArmbruster

4 жыл бұрын

@@jdavies to be honest I am not sure. I think either are ok. But contact the seller.. He has been very helpful. He would know

Would it matter if it was 30Ah?

@TimArmbruster

5 жыл бұрын

No, if the voltage is still 36v and the AH increases from 20ah to 30ah, the only impacts would be the size of the battery and the range would increase by 50%. Make sure you look at the dimensions of the battery and ensure it will fit.

Fix Stuck Razor MX650 Forks!! Disassemble, fix, lube, and reassemble stuck Razor MX650 or MX500 forks. If your forks are binding and won't move any more, this video will most likely get them moving again. I also show all of the internals and parts of the forks and how they work. kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y4eZw62YhayvltI.html

Doing this

Fixing a flat rear tire on a Razor MX650 or MX500 is a serious pain. We use Green Slime which works most of the time. You want to avoid replacing the rear inner tube at all costs. kzread.info/dash/bejne/hmWFlbd_dZjXoso.html

Could you do this for me?

@TimArmbruster

4 жыл бұрын

This is really just a hobby. Where do you live?

@GambitGD

4 жыл бұрын

This is me again I was on my brothers account, is it ok if u give me your Snapchat or Instagram cuz im telling u were I live publicly is a bad idea. My snap is: sulaiman.ah

@TimArmbruster

4 жыл бұрын

Hi I will have my son snapchat you.

@harrymartinez146

4 жыл бұрын

Can you do this for kids? I'll pay

@TimArmbruster

4 жыл бұрын

@@harrymartinez146 where do you live

One thing negative about it that battery cost almost as much as bike

@TimArmbruster

4 жыл бұрын

Yes but if you do the math it is about the same cost as lead acid. If you have the bike for a long time you will replace the lead acid batteries multiple times.

The worst part, when you do something for your kid and kid faces telling you I don't really care what you did.

Install a 48v 30Ah Lithium battery in your Razor MX650!! It's a tight fit, but will fit in your MX650 or MX500. I estimate this will give you 3-4 hours of constant hard riding run time with the 1800watt 48v upgrade. Please like and subscribe. kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZoyipsqtqpzZgso.html

I added a speed test of this using different gear ratios at kzread.info/dash/bejne/mplhypSYZKasYc4.html

I added a dirt track ride of this bike at kzread.info/dash/bejne/oYOG0cGwlbuXZsY.html

I did a video of Replacing Brake Pads and using Disk Brake Quiet to Eliminate the Brake Squeaking kzread.info/dash/bejne/lqGhtKaSis2pes4.html

I kept breaking freewheels so I found a way to upgrade them: kzread.info/dash/bejne/aaCisrODY9WxYrw.html

Did a video of kids jumping the modified MX650 on dirt. kzread.info/dash/bejne/rKKE1o-smKbNlpM.html

Posted video of freewheel replacement kzread.info/dash/bejne/X6h40cGBqdLTh8o.html

ripoffs!!