Seeing Karn animate artifacts to attack with them rather than blowing up lands reminds me of a more innocent time.

@nickfanzo

8 ай бұрын

I used him to kill moxes

To the lovely patron who made Bosh waddle through this format, thank you! I've never enjoyed magic more than I did since I was a kid until watching this Vid

I think part of the similarity you identified between Pioneer and Premodern is that they both contain, like, a single coherent game design philosophy. Modern straddles a few of them and Legacy includes everything but Premodern and Pioneer both feel very consistent in terms of how cards and play patterns feel

@oneinfinity

Жыл бұрын

Makes sense, both of these formats have similarly small card pools. Difference is that Pioneer's card pool is still growing and will at some point outgrow its own consistency, while Premodern by definition will never change. That's actually what I dislike the most about the format. It's driven purely by nostalgia, and once that wears off it will grow stale rather quickly. Getting to play with new cards and seeing the format change around them is probably the best thing about playing Magic after all, and you will never be able to do that in Premodern.

I really loved this. This era of Magic was when I started playing, and I still have a massive soft spot for my favourite Beast cards: Ravenous Baloth, Blastoderm, Krosan Cloudscraper (biggest creature ever! At the time, anyway), Contested Cliffs, Wirewood Savage and especially Spiritmonger, so seeing some of them was wonderful. Also a lot of other former powerhouses (even if only in decklists): painlands, Dr. Teeth, non-Tarmo Lhurgoyfs, BoPs and Akroma (eat your heart out, Griselbrand!). Delightful! The games were equally delightful. Who knew 66-card Elves could win a game? Also great to see you both laughing about misplays at the end. Thank you to both of you and to Naggledak for sponsoring this trip down nostalgia lane.

I think premodern needs a lot more love and attention from the mtg community, it's great! Also, I miss when artifacts were brown 😭

That all-brown-border MUD deck was so beautiful. Peak aesthetic Magic.

You mentioned playing with all of the old bordered cards, and it reminded me just how historied magic is, because I hear about all the older sets, but I didn't experience them, since I was born after Scourge and other sets were printed.

This hits me directly in the nostalgia. Thanks for doing it. This era of magic was the era that existed when I first got "serious" about the game. This format is made of the cards that a real human could actually acquire during that era. No alpha/beta/unlimited/revised nonsense accellerating the game, and, what appears to be a thoughtful banlist. Really enjoying this, commenting mid-watch.

Thanks for doing these - really enjoyed these matches!

@85mcarnold

2 жыл бұрын

For anyone that doesn’t know who The Cloudgoat Ranger is, he’s only the best Premodern content creator out there so check him out if you want to see more.

I still remember the first time I saw a foil Apocalypse pack Spiritmonger. Beautiful. So many of the foil gold cards from that era came out fantastic -- Deed is another one that springs to mind. It's nice to see there's a format where some of those classics can find a home.

45:23 "Holy guacamole, Terravore!" is now in my quote hall of fame

weeeoooo launching into local Ottawa legend's Patrick Burt's geddon deck. Love it!

@narcism18

2 жыл бұрын

He sounds handsome.

@85mcarnold

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve been smacked by the man himself with it. Strong deck.

@TheRemyWagner

2 жыл бұрын

Premodern's Canadian Threshold 🤘

hot damn, thank you for covering this amazing format!

I've never seen this format before, and I only began playing in 2015, but this is an amazing idea and a beautiful presentation.

@alessandroboscaini8424

2 жыл бұрын

Format is very much a nostalgia trip but it’s well curated and balanced so there’s a lot of room for adjustment and gameplay is a lot of fun

This was super useful for me. I was talking to a friend about Magic from before 2011, when they started, since I started in 1996. Explaining to them that Magic was different isn't the same as *showing* them that Magic was different. And this is still using current rules. Still, I think this will help them start to understand Magic from a different perspective. They've never had MtG without Planeswalkers, for example. Super excited to share this with them. Thanks for sharing this cool format with us. Loved this showcase.

Premodern is easily my favorite format these days. 10/10 Play it anytime you want!

Please more videos of this format. It was great seeing decks from when I started playing.

Pretty cool format and great games. Next time you do it, can you play Pros Bloom? That deck is wild!

All the art really did it for me, thanks for taking the time to line up those beautiful borders.

Great to see this! Just got into Premodern myself under a month ago, and so far it's everything I hoped it would be. Best format!

This is awesome! It's a nice change from another delver match up.

@BoshNRoll

2 жыл бұрын

Phrexian Delver let’s gooooo!

I see Terravore in the thumbnail and yearn to see it with Devastating Dreams once amore. Anyway, algorithm.

@85mcarnold

2 жыл бұрын

There is a very good Premodern deck with Devastating Dreams. Look up Pink Prison. Uses the Land Tax/Scroll Rack engine for insane power.

@nicholasfarrell5981

Жыл бұрын

I'm tempted to build a Wildfire deck for this format. I probably won't (MachineHead, I wanna play it again), but Wildfire + Terravore was something I always wanted to try.

wait, what!? i love pre-modern! i am so happy to see this!!

Hoping that this video does well enough you can justify doing more of these sorts of things in the future.

@BoshNRoll

2 жыл бұрын

Share it everywhere, tell your friends, every click helps!

@mattstastny9441

2 жыл бұрын

@@BoshNRoll just watched the video, love your stuff. Just a quick tip, if you have an image from Discord, you can open original on the bottom left to open in a browser tab. Then you can zoom in if you need to.

Premodern over the last year has skyrocketed to being my favorite format, nostalgic, rewarding and now my favorite content creator has a video out! I don’t know if I’ve ever hit the like button so fast

Just putting in the effort to get together all old frames possible was enough to win me over. Great stuff!

Seeing the TerraGeddon game was a treat! That the deck young teen me wished I could build when I got a Trounce-o-matic pre-con and a Terravore from a fistful of Odyssey packs for my birthday one year, Threshold has inspired my lifelong love of graveyard matters decks! Werebear still has one of my favorite flavor texts ever as well.

Now this is magic as richard garfield intended

I appreciate you going for full old border aesthetic! I did the same for my Deadguy Ale deck that I built in real life

I love this idea. I've been wanting something more like 93/94 but including more cards for a while. Great idea!

Glad to see premodern getting more press. Great format

More of this please! Such an amazing format!!!

One of my favorite content creators playing (by far) my favorite format...today is a good day.

Pre-modern looks awesome. Thank you for bringing this format to me. Please make more videos of pre-modern, I am definitely interested. :-)

Now we just need that BoshNRoll "Post-Modern" content to complete this saga.

@BoshNRoll

2 жыл бұрын

That’s Pioneer haha. I’ve played it before! Might come back soon now that it’s a PTQ format.

@OmneAurumNon

2 жыл бұрын

Ceci n'est pas magic

@matthewbeard7841

2 жыл бұрын

@@BoshNRoll I'm picturing a Post-Modern Magic format to look more like everything's from Future Sight. That or it's exactly like it is right now... except we bring back the ante mechanic as we duke it out in the Thunderdome because Magic cards are the closest thing to a stable currency we have in our post-modern, apocalyptic hellscape.

Loved the video. Was sad not to see an old rising waters deck I use to play at this time. Mono blue, with daze, counterspell, thieving magpie, ribbon snake, rising waters, thwart, eye or Ramos and rishidan ports. Great time of magic right here.

I started playing magic in 2012, but the first cards I played with were old border cards from a collection that got passed down to some friends of mine. Seeing decks in all old border is a real hit of nostalgia

I'm super excited for this video. I started playing Magic well after Modern was introduced so seeing 10 different old school decks is exciting!

I've never played Premodern format but this is what Magic cards are supposed to look like. This totally encapsulates the era I was most into the game.

Boshnroll playing five premodern matches is a dream come true. Island, Portent, keep.

Haven’t commented before, but I just have to let it be known that I loved seeing this format. Legacy is my first love, but I sure did enjoy this nostalgia hit (with some surprisingly good gameplay).

Sideboard CoP is such a nostalgia trip

@BoshNRoll

2 жыл бұрын

CoPs are such bullshit haha.

Some of the best content you have ever put out (and I don’t even play this format). Reminds me of Randy Buehler’s battle of the standard decks. Great work!

As one of the premodern community leaders I’m really glad you enjoyed playing the format. It’s a thriving community of chill dudes playing awesome nostalgic cards in a balanced and competitive environment. I’ll be hosting a premodern tournament in a couple weeks in Boston that already sold out and capped at 128 players with a wait list. Wish we could have more just ran out of room at the venue.

@BoshNRoll

2 жыл бұрын

Several of my friends are attending LobsterCon :) I’m glad the format is thriving, it’s a great time!

@jareddoucette7193

2 жыл бұрын

@@BoshNRoll excellent. Can’t wait to meet everyone in person

This format seems cool! I think I still prefer my formats having new toys put into them every so often, but it's nice to see a place where a lot of these previously-renowned cards can be in the sun again. I think the specific exclusion of certain color must-haves is nice to not only separate its identity from Legacy but also to just create more interesting play patterns in general and allows non-blue decks specifically a bit more of a chance to shine than in your typical Eternal formats.

I've been playing MUD in pre-modern a lot, but I'm using Tron at the same time. Many similarities with your deck, but a few differences too. It plays 8 "thran" cards and tron, I call it Thran Tribal Tron :D The list: 4 Thran Dynamo 4 Thran Tome 4 Sphere of Resistance 4 Tangle Wire 4 Mind Stone 4 Mishra's Helix 4 Smokestack 2 Phyrexian Processor 2 Crumbling Sanctuary 2 Tsabo's Web 1 Worn Powerstone 4 Metalworker 2 Karn, Silver Golem 1 Masticore 4 Ancient Tomb 4 Urza's Mine 4 Urza's Power Plant 4 Urza's Tower 2 City of Traitors Side: 2 Ivory Tower 2 Defense Grid 2 Tormod's Crypt 2 Powder Keg 1 Ensnaring Bridge 1 Nevinyrral's Disk 1 Crumbling Sanctuary 1 Snake Basket 1 Planar Portal 1 Caltrops 1 Disrupting Scepter

I never knew about this and it hits home for me, I played in that time and those are some nostalgic decks

This is great! I like premodern quite a lot and it's really a treat to see some good games being played without webcams slowing the games down to a glacial pace. (Sometimes standstill does that too). Hope to see more in the future!

Whoa this format really is a blast from the past 😁 seeing akroma, seige gang, decree of justice, city of ass, gemstone mine, etc. Feels nostalgic man 🙂

@Zii_Vii

2 жыл бұрын

Oh man circle of protection red, I didn't even see it. COPs were the first and only sideboard cards that made sense to me as a kid 😂 I remember just putting the right colors into my main deck of clerics when I was going to play against certain friends. Pestilence in particular I remember irritated the shit out of me so I put cop black in my main deck if I even suspected a buddy might play it 😂😂

I would love to see Madness. I love Circular logic, that needs to be reprinted in modern

Wow, this format is so full of nostalgia... I was only disappointed to realize that one of my favorite decks from that era, Deathcloud, was just the wrong side of the cutoff.

Surprised you didn't have Krosan Verge in the terrageddon decklist. Some fringe decks to consider could be Dancing Ghoul (Buried Alive/Sutured Ghoul/Krosan Cloudscraper/Corpse Dance), Astral Slide, PandeBurst (Pandemonium/Saproling Burst/Blastoderm/Fires of Yavimaya); all decks I enjoyed in my heyday.

@nicholasfarrell5981

Жыл бұрын

MachineHead (R/B control), ProsBloom, and Dr. Teeth are all pretty good too.

Haha when you said “idk if every one of you was playing at this time” and here I am being born in 2000 so I was 3 when this format legality closed off. I WISH I was playing back in the glory days

Thanks for featuring some Premodern! I've been a longtime Legacy player but Premodern has become my favorite format over the last few years. Hope to see some Premodern again in the future though I know you said it won't be a regular occurrence. Thanks again and good games!

Terrageddon is my deck of choice. Format is fun.

@BoshNRoll

2 жыл бұрын

It's so good!

That ReSur deck looks like an absolute pleasure to play. Living Death is an especially spicy inclusion

Wow. This is so epic. I actually played these decks at the time myself!!!

that terravore + savannah lions attack was a sweet play to notice

I love premodern 🥰 have domain control and uwr midrange built to play with my pals

One of my favorite niche formats and certainly my favorite era of mtg- maybe we'll see a BoshNRoll premodern monthly top one day? 😉

Was not expecting this... And I loved it. Have almost all cards to do a rack pox... And also planning to do a standstill deck for premodern. Don't have still anyone to play with... But with time I will get someone.

This is so awesome! Thanks for the content, Brian!

Thanks for featuring Premodern. If you play in any events in the future, look into Pink Prison. If getting to Ancestral every turn while playing a tutor suite of silver bullets aren’t selling points for you, I don’t know what is.

@nicholasfarrell5981

2 жыл бұрын

Pink Prison? Pray tell, what is that?

this was really fun. i would love to see more of this format - Even if it's once or twice a year this was great!

Explaining to newer players why sligh was so good back in the day is always fun. So much reach, even being at the high teens didn't make you safe.

45:18 damn, this format rules

Very fun to watch, so much nostalgia

I can't fathom yet how much inspiration I got for building new decks from this one video. This was awesome!

I played from mirage to 5th dawn super activ and came back a year ago to magic. i really love modern right now but man those old decks are just so cool.

Loves the goblin/standstill game 1 lol

omg , tears in my eyes!

This format is a delight to watch tbh

Would love to see/play in a live event of this.

Please do more premodern, this was easily your best video

Put this right into my veins

so much nostalgia!

more Premodern, please!

I've been waiting for this one!

This was super interesting. Thanks for doing this i know premodern doesn't tend to perform as well as uhhhhh any other format, but this was a blast to witness.

Absolute favorite format. Ty!

Bonus points for the old borders (aka "the good ones"). That MUD deck is literally brown.

I’d be obsessed playing a Morphling or Survival again

nostalgia is a helluva drug

I sold my collection because of power creep roughly 10 years ago (and oh boy was it just beginning). These decks remind me of the good times!

SUPER EXCITED FOR THIS ONE!!!!

I definitely don’t get nostalgia from this but it is still super cool. I started in RTR, so for me, premodern may as well be an archaeological format

Premodern is so awesome I have been playing for months. And I love the play patterns and the decisions are real no oh I got four mana play sheoldred. It is nice to build a deck around something that can punish either player not just a one sided carr

Obligatory algorithmic contribution

This almost feels like the time i made boshnroll play penny dreadful

The MUD deck caught my attention

I wouldn't mind a format with exclusively old border cards. Including the reprints of new cards with old borders. Might be a mess but would be interesting

This format looks like big fun. Very enjoyable watch! I will say there are a couple of things I don't love about the format: 1. The mana. In particular, enemy colored fixers are not only sparse, but they are sparse RELATIVE TO allied fixers, because they used to print allied fixers more often. This creates weird pulls toward allied two-color decks over enemy ones. Hesitating to play rock because blue-white control has better mana isn't great. 2. Format legality is a little confusing in some ways. For instance, having Portal and Starter 2000 not legal makes it so you can't just go off the time period a card was printed in. But otherwise, yea, a great combo of nostalgia and novelty. Would love to see more of this, but understand if you are pulled towards more established realms.

@BoshNRoll

2 жыл бұрын

The official website explains it better than I did. It’s cards that were standard legal during that era.

Werebear is favorite Magic card of all time, so my heart nearly stopped when I saw it. "To become is to understand." Edit: Also, I knew this format would be sick as hell because you were doing combat math in every game.

small correction about the hydroblast play at 1:39:00 you actually misclicked the "destroy permanent...." option instead of the counter option, which then lead to the clicking of ringleader doing nothing.

So I believe it was a 93% chance to find a single copy of wrath in the top 35.

@BoshNRoll

2 жыл бұрын

Han Solo voice: Never tell me the odds!

This video was amaaaaazing!!

At 1:12:32 you could've cast Wall of Blossoms in response to Raven to maybe draw Bone Shredder or Monk Realist.

31:15 forgot about Ball Lightning lol

a blue green madness deck would be so sweet to play again

Looooove this content. Thank you.