When I hear Folks. I stop whatever I’m doing and listen.

@NostalgiaNomics

Ай бұрын

😁

@mikespandinator2054

Ай бұрын

The “welcome back” hits hard as well, makes my heart tingle because I am indeed happy to be back 😂

@pokeplush66

Ай бұрын

I love how he took it from Rudy hehe.

PERSONALLY IM GRABBING ALL THE MODERN CARDS I CAN GET BC THE ART IS SO BEAUTIFUL AND ONE DAY THEY WONT BE AROUND FOR AS CHEAP A PRICE AS THEY ARE TODAY

You are right tbh. I go to card shows all the time. I go for 151 because 1st edition is too expensive. I make 100K a year and I cannot find myself to buy $1000 for a raw card.

@JediMasterT

Ай бұрын

well the main part of his argument isn't people don't wanna spend the money. They are spending the same amount for a more modern card vs a more vintage card is his whole point.

@JediMasterT

Ай бұрын

I definitely get your point though, being priced out of a card kinda sucks.

What I am noticing is the development of two seperate markets within the Pokemon TCG world. The older generation that grew up with vintage and are stuck in their ways will always support vintage, while the younger collectors are flocking to the more modern stuff that they know and love. You see this in sports cards with different era collectors, and it is starting to happen to Pokemon due to age. I personally love and have nostalgia for WOTC era Pokemon cards as I collect the cards when I was a kid, but understand that the new money flowing in will usually gravitate towards what is nostalgia/collecible for them. There is a generational gap in Pokemon now, but we don't have to always divide and compare. Let all just enjoy the fact that TPCI is still putting out great products for everyone to enjoy even after all these years.

Bringing them receipts!!!!!! Keep up the good work man!!!!

Smashing the content out there every day, good stuff mate. Well done on the live too.

@NostalgiaNomics

Ай бұрын

Appreciate that man. Thanks!

I really appreciate your content! I got into pokemon cards a few weeks ago and i cant stop inhale every part and section of pokemon here on youtube. I noticed quite quickly that some modern sets have potential to rise or have rised already, but im just a noobie. :D Crown Zenith, Brilliant Stars and 151 are my favorites at the moment because of the artworks! ( obviously i havent opened the more ''expensive'' packs 😄)

@NostalgiaNomics

Ай бұрын

Yooo that awesome! Welcome to the hobby and glad you found the channel. Hope you are enjoying!

I grew up with Pokémon, I was there when base set was first released. Vintage is mainly there for the nostalgia. I wouldn’t mind having a shadowless charizard in my collection. It’s like a time capsule of one of the best parts of my childhood. But modern has amazing art and it feels like I’m back in my early Pokémon days being able to rip packs and pull the main chase or buying my favorite singles because I love the art. That’s impossible to do now with vintage unless I spend hundreds on a vintage pack to rip open.

nice alakazam, what grade? sold my 1st ed psa 9 in 2020 and bought gold, like most of my 1st ed psa 9s. kinda miss that card

@NostalgiaNomics

Ай бұрын

It's one of my last ones. I had a complete PSA 9 1st edition base set and that is the one that just hasn't sold yet. Ya it's a Nostalgic card!

Alot goes into this some people go for what either they loved as a kid growing up or what got them back into the hobby but also people getting into the hobby the last five years they might not even know they can afford vintage or just are so focused on whats popular they dont have vintage on their radar

when I got back into collecting in 2020, all I bought was vintage. I didn't like the idea of full arts, etc. However, four years later I'm still strong in the hobby and all I buy is modern (XY and later). I haven't bought a vintage card in a couple years now. There is a sense of nostalgia with vintage, but that will erode with time with the younger generations. 20 years later I'll probably think back to the SWSH with nostalgia as well. There will be a place and time for select vintage cards, but that time is not now.

@NostalgiaNomics

Ай бұрын

Sounds like the same exact path I went. Started out 100% in vintage and little by little I shifted until now I'm 100% modern.

I love both. But vintage feels like there is plenty of time to get some of those cards I want. Modern feels like there is a closing window for a lot of them. Also let's be honest in most cases modern chase cards are just better than vintage. I make this comparison a lot, but compare Obsidian Flames Gloom Illustration rare to Jungle Gloom. It's not even a competition. The new IR blows the old card out of the water. Heck even base set Ninetails Holo versus Obsidian Flames IR Ninetales. Again the modern wins. The old is fun to collect because of its nostalgia and rarity. But I freaking love some good bling on a new card and the incredible texture of the alt arts and SIR's. It's why I own more graded modern slabs than vintage. I will say though, if you want to collect a whole set of raw cards in a binder, vintage wins hands down. The sets had better identities and even the cheap common cards still were nice to look at. Modern commons and uncommons kind of suck honestly. Some of it may be the way they are framed in the card. I do think the modern style of the card itself for common/uncommon/rares/holo rares needs badly to be redesigned. I would like it if they went to a more flat design pattern like the ACE spec cards or like other TCG's instead of these ghetto 90's style "3D" frames and decorations on the card. But for chase cards, I think the cards look very nice and well done and the framing around them works well. I would love to see pokemon make the more common cards more special with better card design for modern and shrink set sizes while maintaining hard pull rates on chases so that master sets could actually be a thing again. They should work on their set identity too. Scarlet and Violet had all these new generation pokemon and yet its base set was a mix. I think the first set of each era should be ONLY new pokemon for that era with the card order containing the evolution lines so get a nice set identity. Then subsequent sets mix in different generations. Just my $0.02

@NostalgiaNomics

Ай бұрын

Appreciate all the feedback! I agree on the set identity needing to be focused on more as well. Thanks for sharing!

Some interesting choices for these comparisons. The Charizard staff prerelease has 38 PSA 10s and a horrible 10 ratio. Phantom Forces Gengar is 10 years old and has 75 PSA 10s with a ridiculously low 10 ratio. The first ed Fossil Gengar has more than twice as many 10s. The so-called fundamentals that you keep disagreeing with are the very reason these cards are expensive. They're now a little older, really scarce in good condition, and in gem mint go for very high prices because they're low pop. For the Moonbreon, considering people keep saying it's THE card of a generation/era, wouldn't it be better to compare it to the Base Set Charizard, THE card of the first era? Just think it would be a better comparison than comparing THE card of an era to a lesser version (unlimited) of an older Umbreon. Just because they're both Umbreon doesn't mean it's the best comparison, especially when the one you pick is the unlimited one. I don't disagree with your points about the strong demand for modern cards, and they might very well outperform vintage. I just think you chose some weird comparisons, especially when some of them support the theory that low pop = value.

Vintage is like bonds modern is like stocks. Got to have that mix, modern english for cash flow and vintage japanese for currency investment

Modern Pokemon is nice, but I'll always prefer vintage (wotc) over modern. Each to their own though. Not hating, ofcourse. I'd just rather a 1st edition zard over an Umbreon vmax. Just saiyan. Good video man. 🤜🤛

I ❤ the Pokémon hobby! I love to make the trade! I’ve been participating in this hobby since late summer 1999! All six of my kids participated in the hobby during the early years of the hobby and two of them still do!

Enjoy the videos but I feel like you might be muddying some of your points regarding POP reports not being the primary factor for pricing by including the Charizard pre-release example. As you mentioned, it is essentially just a copy-paste of the original so wouldn't the only reason it would compete on price is the relative rarity compared to the base set in a PSA 10?

@NostalgiaNomics

Ай бұрын

I mentioned it wasn't an apples to apples comparison in the vid. It was more to show people can afford vintage but simply choose not too is all.

@jordanwhite6102

Ай бұрын

@@NostalgiaNomics Yeah I get it. It's definitely an interesting example and not something I would have ever expected from a reprint regardless of rarity or whatever stamp they put on it.

Has he done a video on projections for ETB investing? I’d love to see a video on that!

@NostalgiaNomics

Ай бұрын

Will do

Born in the 90s and been a Pokémon fan my entire life. Modern cards just look cooler, simple as that. I will never buy a vintage card but boy do I have a lot of modern!

@NostalgiaNomics

Ай бұрын

I feel the exact same way and I am a 90s kid as well

neo umbreon and t17 etc are really nice cards, seems absurd some of these will be left to the wayside. in my mind a base set zard from wotc shouldnt be falling under its own reprint

I think vintage investors forget that 95 percent of people today buy Pokémon from Walmart and target and want the chase cards from those packs. They don’t care about what came before because they don’t see it. It’s why investor channels have thousands of subscribers instead of millions. Investing and vintage is a niche thing. And I’m kinda glad.

@NostalgiaNomics

Ай бұрын

💯

social media is your bread & butter free advertising basically.

It's all about eye appeal, but at the end of the day; collect what you like. Off topic here, but my best purchase was a bundle deal which included a PSA10 Moonbrion & 5 Celebrations ETB for $600($510 with 15%off coupon I had) and yes, I kept everything til' this day. lol

It's an interesting take for sure. I think when us vintage collectors say , buy the more rare card first...I'm not choosing vintage over some prejudice over modern cards. I'm choosing the vintage card because they just aren't for sale as often, they aren't as easy to find at market prices, where as, the umbreon vmax I will be able to find that card for sale at every card show I ever go to for the next 5 years and I'm willing to bet there will be multiple copies. So why should I worry about getting it now when I can get it later?

I see great opportunity within these comparisons especially moonbreon vs unlimited neo discovery. As a fan and owner of both, I see much more upside in the neo Umbreon whether it’s a 1st Ed 9 or unlimited 10. Remember, there was a time in baseball cards where Mark McGuire rookie cards were selling for the same price as Babe Ruth and other legends. Time of course corrected this and now it’s a laughable comparison.

E series is nicer vintage. N yes if I had the money I would buy some, not a lot but some. I do appreciate the art work and styles of the cards

@NostalgiaNomics

Ай бұрын

I gotcha. To each their own!

Either way I like investing in modern sealed over psa 10 10k + pop Moonbreon. So yeah definitely agree with you there! Yeah psa 10 Full Art Gengar from phantom forces is one of my grails I want by the end of the year such a cool card I kinda consider it to be vintage that’s just me though.

@moonbreon

Ай бұрын

The advantage in general for graded slabs is: doesn't take much space, easy to ship , very liquid at the moment, and nice to display, easy to transport or travel with. More coherent as part of a collection.

If the price disparity between vintage and modern could invert from now would that be a buying signal of vintage for you?

@NostalgiaNomics

Ай бұрын

Not for me... I just don't see the allure that would make people interested again.

@MochaCollective

Ай бұрын

@@NostalgiaNomics Makes sense. You always here that todays kids will want SwSh sets in 20 years time, it’s likely the kids of the golden generation have already been and gone as a majority

@NostalgiaNomics

Ай бұрын

@MochaCollective ya I mean I am not ruling it out by any means but just if I had to bet one way or the other right now... I don't see it as likely. But hey could easily be wrong.

Vintage collectors are sounding bitter, could be a point no one wants vintage cards anymore. People priced out or better artwork in modern and this is coming from someone that started collecting from the beginning. It’s obvious to see where the money is at. What gonna be easier, moving a few cases of Evolving Skies or a DP era box?

@NostalgiaNomics

Ай бұрын

💯 I feel the same way and ask those same questions.

Honestly I’ve not heard the whole ‘modern is bought because people can’t afford vintage’. Unless it’s a first edition zard. This video just made me realise how cheap some rare vintage cards are. Love modern artworks and I collect all eras but can’t help but feel there’s more risk in ultra modern currently.

@NostalgiaNomics

Ай бұрын

Ya I mean singles are risky but in my opinion nothing safer in the hobby than modern sealed if bought at release.

I modern for fact I don't know old cards or a good price to buy them at or even sell thrm

@NostalgiaNomics

Ай бұрын

Ya that's another hurdle when dealing with them for sure.

@patescortez88

Ай бұрын

@@NostalgiaNomics guys help me buy out crown zenith cases. The gold rares will reach 100 each please

A serious comment this time. I think with collectibles you naturally have a faster hand off to the next generation than you do with an antique. Collectibles are a lot more nostalgia focused, one generation grows up with Base Set another grows up with Sword and Shield. Versus an antique where no one has grown up in the Roman Empire, but the reasons/mindset are a lot different. I've noticed this across various markets that I collected that while I favor one set and a decent amount of people do, ultimately the market moves on as fresh, younger money is getting invested. I think Pokemon will last a long time and I don't think vintage will ever be worthless. But, you do have to worry if people got it wrong about handing off the torch. Maybe the torch is only the franchise and the characters, not the specific cards/sets we love and care for. Only time will tell.

@NostalgiaNomics

Ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing. Good points!

But remember I’m just throwing that out there not saying I’m right but I have a idea that scarlet and violet will have some hits and I think right now they have temporal forces Great set in my opinion and Pokemon 151 also paradox rift and they got a dragon set coming out if they do that right scarlet and violet along with paldea evolved is gonna win in this current market which is saying that a lot of new cards can hold high values . Now some these cards are gonna go up then go down then go up in value . But I do agree that it will not be as big as sword and shield but you will see some cards that will be liked and favored

It’s hard to look at the arts of modern cards and compare to vintage. Not even close as to which ones, in general, look better.

I'm not going after the high $ cards anymore. I seek out what has value that I can buy cheaper and compare values for grading.

@NostalgiaNomics

Ай бұрын

That's where the money is made!! Good thinking

That is crazy about the unlimited Neo Umbreon holo compared to the evolving skies Umbreon. At 1500 value of each the current market cap of the Neo unlimited is 141,000 the current market cap of the Evolving skies is 16,699,500. The fact that I could theoretically if every one who owned the Neo PSA 10 would sell at 1500 own the whole pop is wild. I wonder if vintage collectors tend to try for the 1st edition. the market cap of that at a recent 7,000 sale is 686,000. Still really low compared to evolving skies. I think Pokemon is killing it with modern the cards look so good. As to which will be worth more in the future I'm not sure. I'd say the unlimited has much less down side risk over decades as the modern pops continue to rise. I hope modern continues to crush it. As a vintage collector as well it makes me happy the vintage cards aren't going sky high.

@toysandkids1165

Ай бұрын

Population counts don’t matter when millions want the same card

@JediMasterT

Ай бұрын

Yeah I agree with what NN is saying to a degree, some of his comparisons I don't necessarily agree with like the one you mentioned. As a vintage collector if 1st ed is available I would only want that copy ESPECIALLY if unlimited is that expensive. I enjoy and want the neo umbreon, I would rather save and collect the 1st ed in ( not a psa 10 ) because PSA 10 premiums are insane and frankly I think if you cracked every 10 and 9 and resub'd a decent amount of them would change grades lol. Back on topic, your comparing a highly sought after card Modern Moonbreon and comparing it to a psa 10 of the unlimited version of OG moonbreon. The points NN is making with a modern alt art psa 10 is X amount and you can buy this "vintage banger" for the same amount is exactly why I can't validate buying some of these alt arts at these prices. ./shrug

@natemidnight

Ай бұрын

@@toysandkids1165 yes I would agree. If millions want to pay 1500 for the card it will not go down in price.

@natemidnight

Ай бұрын

@@JediMasterT Well to me the vintage is certainly the better value from a mathematical perspective. You know it would be cool if Pokémon did a reprint of cards like that but made them into full arts. The pops for the old stuff won’t increase much in the case of neo 10s as you can see how much they are slowing down. But it’s okay that the market doesn’t value things in ways that make the most sense to me.

@JediMasterT

Ай бұрын

​@@natemidnight I agree with you, plus with these vintage cards people are sending most of them to be graded...fully expecting PSA 7-10 sometimes even lower. Any modern card that doesn't have a 10 shot isn't going to get graded. Most people only want PSA 10s of modern hence why 9s are going for at raw or sometimes lower than raw prices.

I could have made an argument for vintage cards but S&V 151 has me hooked hard!!!

@NostalgiaNomics

Ай бұрын

😂

I only buy what i like and if i make some money along the way so be it. At the end of the day if i lose value but i still like the card then it doesnt hurt.

I have a little bit different issue lately. Modern sealed vs modern sealed basically. What i mean is, Pokemon company uses Netherland printing company since some time. Everything is legit but... on cases and boxes there's note that it's printed in US and Neatherlands, aaaand case is not standard 1 row of 6 BBs, but 2 rows of three. And i wonder, investing wise, bc ppl are wierd with things like this sometimes. Can this make those NL prints less valuable in future? PS. it's normal english cards.

@NostalgiaNomics

Ай бұрын

Very interesting. Have not looked into that or gave it much thought. Thanks for sharing!

I think the price rising for modern is because there is a lot more demand for modern then vintage and that's the rising prices, (simple answer), The juice hasn't been squeezed on modern because the kids who are playing with modern today hasn't grown up and put their money in the ring, the vintage has. So in the future modern will be even more pricey then the vintage IMHO.

Here's the thing, the vintage market likely won't drop significantly if the hobby quiets down, just due to the population of them (raw and graded) compared to modern cards. Their prices have stayed relatively strong (albeit stagnant) despite there being lower demand for vintage and higher demand for modern. If we're talking about investing, we need to adjust risk tolerances depending on how active you as an investor want to get in/out of positions depending on what is happening in the market, and risk manage our asset holdings accordingly. Similarly to my comment on your other video, we were in agreement that the modern cards will do well as long as they're still "modern", but may lose people's interest as they become "mid-era" and eventually "vintage" themselves. Today's vintage cards are going to continue getting older and rarer, which really doesn't need a whole lot of demand to keep prices elevated. This all being said, I think modern is doing great right now, and we can ride the wave of its success. However, it may not be the wisest decision from an "investment" point to put all of our eggs into the modern basket, due to the potential risks to the downside the higher population sizes, mixed with the potentially being replaced in the current/future collector's mind's eye by newer, shinier, cooler cards, or even just general downturn in the market.

@NostalgiaNomics

Ай бұрын

Ya I understand your position on that. I definitely am more confident in modern sealed long term over most modern slabs but some of the top ones could stand the test of time. Gonna be fun to find out in the next years to come that's for sure!!

@RyukADA

Ай бұрын

@@NostalgiaNomics I do agree that cards that shape the era/generation will continue to do well for a very very long time. I do think that the moonbreon is becoming more iconic than base set charizard for kids growing up in this generation, and for us old kids getting back into modern cards.

A better market situation would be that Vintage grows and modern grows and catches it vs money pulling out of Vintage. If the latter happens then it will depress the total market over time as more sets become older since it would imply the total market value is fixed and the true collectors just shift assets to the next shiny thing. If both have a space to grow and every set becomes more expensive the market is more acting like a true vintage / collector market with a continuous influx of money.

P.S. I don't know who is all saying it's going to 0. I haven't heard one person say that. Pokemon is a safe haven to hedge against stocks which I saw there may be a underlying crash of 50% coming soon analyst warn.

There are many more sealed WOTC boxes than what came after and up until primal clash. I can see flashfire out performing unlimited base set booster boxes. Some people think it won't because the TCG at the time wasn't as popular during as base set. The thing is printing was relative to the popularity. Base set unlimited was printed probably 20 times more than flashfire and therefore would require 20 times less demand to reach the same market impact. It makes it much easier to absorb. Flashfire has 17k total pop at psa and Base set unlimited has 422k. It is all relative.

@NostalgiaNomics

Ай бұрын

I like the way you think 😁

Public perception isn't important if you're doing something you enjoy. Keep the good vibes and positivity going. Life is too short for haters and negativity.

@NostalgiaNomics

Ай бұрын

Love it. 💯

Im a vintage fanboy. I buy vintage slabs. That doesnt mean people who like modern are the enemy. Modern cards are cool you guys do you at the end of the day what someone else does has litterally no effect on my life. If youre not having fun with pokemon you should probably just switch to something you like. Life is too short to argue over cardboard.

@NostalgiaNomics

Ай бұрын

💯 GREAT TAKE MAN!

In another two years they gonna be talking about scarlet and violet think about how long ago scarlet and violet has already been out for going on over a year and I think Charzard ex from 151 I gonna go up to 600 psa 10 in about two years

I have a interesting take I think: I think moving forward, with a lot of people getting the opportunity to get some nice predictable gains in modern. I think once you see a good chunk of sword and shield rise and the people hold them sell to get a nice big bag of money. I think the demand for certain vintage will get more interest. Eventually modern will see slower rises as the ceiling gets higher and people will want to put that money in rarer items. Just a potential prediction but possible.

@NostalgiaNomics

Ай бұрын

Time will tell. I can guarantee none of my profits will make their way back to vintage, but who knows maybe others will 🤷‍♂️

@mikespandinator2054

Ай бұрын

@@NostalgiaNomics yea I don’t think the overall demand will shift to vintage I just think the interest will rise a bit with collectors having the opportunity to buy those with their appreciated modern. Because people will have less risk and cost overall into it, so they won’t care if the vintage card stays stagnant, if they truly enjoy a certain card they are after.

@toysandkids1165

Ай бұрын

I would never trade modern for vintage EVER

My opinion on vintage has been the same since the end of Covid. I love it but understand 99% will not buy it. It’s the same with any other old TCG. Go to a magic tournament and ask how many have alpha/ beta collection. What people find out is the vast majority of the player base wasn’t around for it so it holds little to no sentimental value and only a price tag. This is the same for pokemon not to mention that low pop rarely comes to the market so people aren’t thinking about it as much. While I believe we haven’t seen the cieling for vintage the record % return has. I believe modern has a better chance to 5x than vintage.

I feel like that was aimed at me because I bought a PSA 10 Lapras and I don't even like that card at all just seemed rare to me years ago lol I did make alot of money though

@NostalgiaNomics

Ай бұрын

Haha glad you did well!

Modern sealed is the better investment for sure.

Great video Alex! I can't help but feel like I may have partly influenced you to make this video following my recent take on the Moonbreon - don't tell me, I choose to believe it!! 🥰 And, the truth is, I don't disagree with you. Modern is absolutely killing it, and the only conclusion that leaves us with is that the deman for these cards is HUGE! And I firmly believe modern era alt arts (and IRs, and SIRs) are the best cards Pokemon has ever made. So, maybe, the demand is gonna stick around! But, you've gotta admit, if you think the Moonbreon is worth it at that price then then the PSA 10 Umbreon rookie card with only 94 copies sounds pretty compelling, right? I'm not even a hardcore vintage stan and I'm checking my bank account to see if I can make it work 😂 This was a solid informative video my friend. Thanks!

@NostalgiaNomics

Ай бұрын

Haha I haven't watched that video of yours but I will now! Honestly, I truly just don't see any allure that would draw people back to vintage at this point or see any reason newcomers to the hobby would want to collect it. I could be wrong but we will see. Appreciate the feedback!

@tcgbuyersclub

Ай бұрын

@@NostalgiaNomics Only time will tell 😉

Also, there’s a flaw in one of your comparisons. CGC 10 is essentially a 9.5. A CGC 10 pristine or a psa 10 base base set zard sells for way more.

@NostalgiaNomics

Ай бұрын

100% i said in the video it was not an apples to apples comparison. It was only meant to show people have 3k to spend on pokemon and prefer the modern card. Nothing more.

It all depends on what these modern investor/ collectors hold dear to them. If you love the new stuff and never collected the older cards, then why would you pay top dollar for things you have no attachment to.

All these vintage collectors always seem to ignore the fact that the modern cards will also be vintage someday. In 15 or 20 years when that time comes will they still be saying the same thing ? Probably not...

Fooooolks! Just commenting for the algorithm.

Its funny people think they have to stick to only modern or vintage, and double brownie points to those who think vintage will NEVER have a bull run boom cycle again. Catch and ride the waves people

@TheMpmpmpmpmpmp

Ай бұрын

Really easy to buy into the hype of whatever the flavor of the month is. The real money is going where everyone's not. Everything goes in waves.

@monkey39128

Ай бұрын

People are stupid.

In 10-20 years the people who are currently kids will grow old and not see a vintage Charizard as something of a grail but as an ugly-looking regular holo card. This is my opinion. The Moonbreon will be the new-age 1st Edition/Base Set Charizard.

@monkey39128

Ай бұрын

You'd think that but that doesn't generally happen. Like with sports cards sure there's a lot of new expensive ones but the old ones are still the most sought after. I'd probably be looking at it a different way. The Moonbreon could become the new grail purely because something like a 1 Edition Charizard will be out of everyone's reach and in private collections.

@NostalgiaNomics

Ай бұрын

Haha I dunno if I would go that far 🤣 but ya I don't think anyone growing up now for the most part will care about a lot of the old cards.

@tallcatshortdog

Ай бұрын

Well I can tell you from 1st hand experience with my 9 year old son. We bought moonbreon over base charizard as that's the card he wanted and honestly I don't think based on his reaction it was even a close decision.

@flare31777

Ай бұрын

@@tallcatshortdoghaha, that would be the choice not only to your 9y old son but also for me and I am 48! I started collecting / selad investing 2y ago with my sons (6 and 8y) and we enjoy our common hobby! 😎

@frostteecg

Ай бұрын

@@monkey39128 I would disagree to an extent I think each generation has its own grail card. For instance some in the older generation would be the ‘52 Mantle, where as the next generation could put their grail as the ‘86 MJ Fleer. Both have their place and are high valued but each generation sees their grail differently. It’ll be interesting as Pokemon is just now having a second generation of collectors.

modern becomes vintage over time.

I collect both lmao

MEWNbreon is the modern chase standard tho. Vintage or evo skies 😂. Cant compare sorri

I think the pokemon market is driven more by art quality than just pure rarity. The SWSH alt arts are the best artworks these Mons have ever gotten by a longshot. Pop report means nothing if nobody is buying. I grew up with vintage and I love it, but the art has consistently gotten better through the years. I definitely prefer the better artwork of SWSH!

@NostalgiaNomics

Ай бұрын

💯

Other then base set, most kids don't care about vintage. At least that's my experience in my local area. But they do like rainbow cards 🤣🤷

@NostalgiaNomics

Ай бұрын

💯

Speak that truth. Modern has taken over.

thank you for the content your a legend

While you are not wrong by any means, it doesnt mean that the meta wont shift back to vintage in the future. No one really knows what will happen.

@NostalgiaNomics

Ай бұрын

Yep! Gotta place your bets where you see the best opportunity and wait and see 😁

@AKcam7

Ай бұрын

@@NostalgiaNomics 💯💯

After swsh alts peak and start to come down do we see money move to sun and moon alts next?

@NostalgiaNomics

Ай бұрын

Maybe? Maybe XY megas, maybe SV finally, I dunno...

I never thought I’d see the day, but my collection is all modern. I am 31 and grew up with Pokemon, when I got back into collecting I only cared for vintage. These SWSH arts really grew on me and I’m happy to park some extra cash in some BB for growth as well

@NostalgiaNomics

Ай бұрын

Same here man. 33 and grew up with vintage as well. I get it...

To draw comparisons to crypto, crypto investors know that the big gains are made investing in Alt coins (i.e coins that haven't gone through their full price discovery), not established coins like BTC and ETH, and I see Pokémon investing as no different.. If you want to see bigger % gains, you invest in modern sets that haven't gone through price discovery/appreciation, not vintage sets that have already appreciated and found their ceiling!

What is wild to me is how there is even an argument about “buy this PSA 10 base set whatever foil for $4000 is a better investment” …. Or buy $4000 of Temporal Forces booster boxes for 99.99, wait 3-5 yrs. What grows more? Temporal forces 99.9% of the time. I get if you want to COLLECT the old stuff but it isnt the same investment as modern. It will hold value, bit growth is likely not going to move much almost 30 years later.

@NostalgiaNomics

Ай бұрын

Ya any comparison of a vintage slab to really any modern box sub $100 seems obvious at this point I think

@monkey39128

Ай бұрын

Maybe, but that's just you having a guess

@CUTS_cards

Ай бұрын

@@monkey39128 no matter which way it is only a guess… though one is more educated than the other

All Modern eventually becomes Vintage

@moonbreon

Ай бұрын

all vintage becomes modern that's called a reprint 🙂

*insert hate comment here* /s Information is power! Thank you for the info in this video. Very interesting to monitor.

@NostalgiaNomics

Ай бұрын

🤣🤣🤣. Absolutely!

Collect or invest in whatever you want. All I ask is please just be careful. I have been around a long time and have seen a lot happen in this hobby over the years. You pick up on others buying habits and you pick up on most of the red flags. Personally the less people buying up the older vintage cards lately has been great. I just picked up a card I have been chasing for years for half the price for the personal collection.

Just means it’s an amazing opportunity and time to buy vintage

@monkey39128

Ай бұрын

That's what I've been doing. I'm still heavily invested in modern but I've started to allocate some funds to vintage. It's so cheap at the moment.

@NostalgiaNomics

Ай бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

@NostalgiaNomics

Ай бұрын

@@monkey39128 could be cheap for a reason...

@monkey39128

Ай бұрын

@@NostalgiaNomics Could be. Who the f knows.

@nobodycares0257

Ай бұрын

@@NostalgiaNomics I just started watching your stuff man and have been enjoying your takes because it helps balance mine. Appreciate your time man!

I'm not sure you have used these words yourself yet, Alex, but what you are continually highlighting is, to me at least, a case study in behavioral economics. Logic and reason may dictate certain actions to be optimal, but at the end of the day we decide based on emotions, and for whatever reason, people seem more pulled to modern than vintage.

@NostalgiaNomics

Ай бұрын

I have not explained it in that way and that's a very good point. Thanks for the sharing!

lol see you in a year

@NostalgiaNomics

Ай бұрын

I heard that last year and the year before that too!

@fouadnajjar2107

Ай бұрын

@@NostalgiaNomics yeah you did what happen to sun and moon alt arts then ?

@NostalgiaNomics

Ай бұрын

@fouadnajjar2107 Looks like they settled a lot high than they were before their run up. What happened to sun and moon sealed booster boxes?

@fouadnajjar2107

Ай бұрын

@@NostalgiaNomics lol it doesn’t need a rocket scientist to know that all sealed goes up in value but please answer my question what happened to sun and moon singles ?

Im 30 and been through it all, honestly the only worth while vintage cards to me are Gold Star cards.

@DanielReisi

Ай бұрын

What about reverse holos from legend maker? Or team rocket returns?One of the best Pokemon cards ever imo.

@SnowieSupra

Ай бұрын

@@DanielReisi I agree the arts are amazing, but the profit is already realized from those cards imo.

Been laughing at the people bulk buying Waifu cards for 10 years... but 10 years from now... they might be the ones laughing. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I'll welcome that day.

@NostalgiaNomics

Ай бұрын

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clickbait much and i don't think the best modern can beat the best vintage cards. I like both though and no alex we dont hate you.

@NostalgiaNomics

Ай бұрын

You think that's clickbait??? And time will tell...

@newjones1754

Ай бұрын

@@NostalgiaNomics afcourse lol there are no normal youtube titles anymore i get it. But what's wrong with: Good information about Pokemon to enjoy your day with? I like that title way more. Yes you can use it.

@NostalgiaNomics

Ай бұрын

@@newjones1754 🤣🤣🤣

Ya, supply and demand. Massive demand on moonbreon, best card of sword and shield era! I’ll be holding mine for now.

I dont care what anyone says card art for card art of umbreon es is the best

@NostalgiaNomics

Ай бұрын

Agreed!

@monkey39128

Ай бұрын

I prefer the Giratina but Moonbreon is definitely a beautiful card.

@dominickmagoon5731

Ай бұрын

@monkey39128 i ment same pokemon gari. Is good not my gen of pokemon but i see why people like it. I like up to gen 2 for most part same reason 151 is hands down best set even above es but es has the rarity and eevees in it.

Drop the 🎤 Amen brother keep up the content

IGNORE THE HATERS BRO AND KEEP DOING WHAT YOUR DOING AND DONT EVER CHANGE OR STOP!!! YOU GIVE THIS HOBBY THE BACKBONE IT NEEDS!!

@NostalgiaNomics

Ай бұрын

Appreciate all the support! Will do!!

My kids don't like vintage pokemon card. They said the art is not as good as modern pokemon card. Vintage card to them is like common card no value lol

@NostalgiaNomics

Ай бұрын

That's what I have been hearing.

but this is the rookie appearance of this Pokémon! and it’s only a pop 69! Yeah dude… no one cares, art is better on modern, enjoy your pop 69

@NostalgiaNomics

Ай бұрын

🤣🤣🤣 Exactly. It isn't that difficult.

Have the boomer vintage investors who left YT come back and admit they were wrong yet? They bashed you for your takes and then disappeared when they were wrong lol

@NostalgiaNomics

Ай бұрын

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New art is just better, there isn’t anything that will change my mind. I would rather have full art than any old basic holo. So I understand the market shift

It's always changing. Thats normal.... U try to appeal to simole minds dont u? Lol. Serious question too.

@NostalgiaNomics

Ай бұрын

🤣

I had a discussion like this with Reserved Investments and he just stopped responding. His viewpoint was that in any collecting category the oldest items will ALWAYS hold the value over newer items with “mass produced scarcity”. Now to some degree it is a decent generalisation however I brought up the collectable car market where overwhelmingly the most desirable cars are from the 1950’s and 60’s. No one wants to know about the cars from the early 1900’s, or at least be willing to spend tens of millions of dollars on them. There are other categories as well, but I see the Pokémon card market to be similar. I am not saying alt arts will beat out an Illustrator Pikachu or 1st edition Charizard. It’s all about percentage gains and there is no reason that some SWSH alt arts can’t sell well into the 5 figures 10-20 years down the track.

@NostalgiaNomics

Ай бұрын

Ya reserved investments seems stuck in his ways and unwilling to adapt to new markets. I understand his views and how he arrives at them but disagree as well.