Given that Sir Alex was able to flourish as he did under the glazers ownership is enough to make him the greatest football manager of all time.

@ajdesmond9545

Жыл бұрын

And he knew when to get out to best ever manager of all time don’t think no one will get near him

@terryloftus8626

Жыл бұрын

All he had to do is beat Arsenal,then it became Arsenal and Chelsea,then Arsenal,Chelsea and City,then Liverpool,and Sir Purplenose thought "Better get out of here,l will get found out",and don't forget all the refs that gave them pens when they struggled and the unfunny "Fergie time".Peps done it in other countries he blows Purplenose out the water

@thesadarsenalfan3319

Жыл бұрын

I have nothing but respect for fergie. This lad could win the prem with an avarge premier league team. He didnt need 11 star players at the bench to sub in (like city), he just needed players with character and winner instinct thats it.

@passtime4805

Жыл бұрын

@@thesadarsenalfan3319 fergie was European champions with Aberdeen winning in the final against Real Madrid. That’s equivalent to peps time at Barca basically

@passtime4805

Жыл бұрын

And there was always a challenger firstly we was knocking Liverpool of their perch Blackburn Newcastle them Arsenal an so on.. greatest Eva…

Fergie built United up from the depths it was at when he took over. Pep spent half a billion in his first 2 years in a club that was already built for success

@aru8302

Жыл бұрын

Alex can not even speak other lenguage.. and you say is the best? you must to be a circus clown...

@dezmccaw4670

Жыл бұрын

He did it 3 times, building new squads

@marcelohendrix6139

Жыл бұрын

he has the class of 92 and then bought every top player. ronaldo, rio, rooney etc

@kawhistraightface1462

Жыл бұрын

@@marcelohendrix6139 What did he have before the class of 92 fella?

@cv003799

Жыл бұрын

Fergurson first title winning team was the most expensive team in British football history

Nobody comes close to Ferguson if it's an English-based discussion. Did it with young players; did it with superstars; showed he could rebuild without a huge budget at times. And managed the task of winning this tough league and winning the European Cup at the same time. Unrivalled for now.

@gavin7miller

Жыл бұрын

Fergie is Scottish...

@sacred1827

Жыл бұрын

@@gavin7miller "English-based"

Isn’t it ironic that Pep’s two Champion league wins with Barca were over two of Fergie’s best Utd’s teams. Where they outclassed and frankly destroyed Utd. Pep for me

@ruddock7

Жыл бұрын

Yes but that was for Barcanot for City and this is about the EPL!!

@kaos1189

Жыл бұрын

Well, that was the greatest club team ever that beat Man Utd twice in 3 years. Any other team Fergie would have beaten, and maybe he could have done better in the first final but jesus, Pep took over a team with prime Xavi, Iniesta, forever in his prime Leo Messi with an amazing supporting cast in David Villa, Pedro, Busquets, Dani Alves. This doesn't make Pep the greatest PL manager however, not even close. Sir Alex Ferguson churned out championship winning teams every few years to keep the winning regular enough and turn Manchester Utd in to a commercial giant - something clubs like Bayern, Real Madrid, Barcelona were wanting to become. Look at Man Utd now? The Glazers have taken $1.5b out of the club, put nothing in. Debt is still at £600m from the point of takeover. Dividends, bonus are coming out every year for Glazers, interest payments are going out every year and the club is still running - Man Utd spent over £1b on transfers (flops or not) - that is ridiculous that the club is still existing. Such is the power and reach of this club, how much longer it will last under the owners is another matter but just look at Barcelona. There are levels and Fergie help make Manchester United the global icon in the Prem Era, no club at the their highest or lowest grabs attention like them. Edit: Sorry for the essay. Fergusons impact was more than Utd, PL domination.

@philbarton2832

Жыл бұрын

Just a guy: That wasn't the question, stop moving the goalposts

@kennyp9616

Жыл бұрын

Sure Fergie's team beat them in the semi-final around that time but no doubt that Barca team were magical.

@craigoliver8712

Жыл бұрын

@@kennyp9616 2008

sir Alex didn't leave a team for the future because he didn't plan for his retirement. he made the decision to retire more than half way through his last season due to family reasons. he has described the whole ordeal in great detail in his book and also many many interviews.

Ralf Rangnik, for me. He took United to levels, United fans have never seen before!

@mikehunt1528

Жыл бұрын

@@elnino9772 Oh dear... Is that what happened to you ?

@JRW1886

Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

@garywallace5602

Жыл бұрын

@@mikeirvine1734 He's following the blueprints drawn up by Ralf and Fat Frank...to the letter!

@ConnorWoodier94

Жыл бұрын

@@mikeirvine1734 Hilarious man🤣🤣🤣

@DeanRyan89

Жыл бұрын

💀💀💀

I cant believe this ... sir Alex...without question. Greatest manager of all time

@raybrooking8084

Жыл бұрын

Bullocks, Utd was never feared by the big Clubs of Europe as City is today. Just ask them.

@KittySofttpaws

Жыл бұрын

@@raybrooking8084 City so feared in Europe that they've yet to lift the trophy. 😂😂😂😂😂😂 PS Manchester United were the first English club to win the champions league back in the 60s. You have the same amount of Champions leagues as Arsenal, Spurs, and every other current PL club except for United, Liverpool, Chelsea, Forest and Villa. 🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫

@shikaka2325

Жыл бұрын

Pep inherited a team with messi,iniesta,xavi,puyol… Then went to a team that had just won the CL. Then went to City who had a decent squad and had already won the league when he got there. How this is even a debate is crazy.

@bensmith5288

Жыл бұрын

@@raybrooking8084 I cant even respond to that . Its too stupid

@MrPaling12345

Жыл бұрын

@@raybrooking8084 hahahahha they haven't won in Europe you melt

As a City fan and Pep guy it's Sir Alex I know this is just for Premier League we are talking about but for Pep to be better than Sir Alex in world football with City he needs to win Champions League, win a treble or more, AND Pep needs to stay long term. Sir Alex has the reps and the stats.

@tonyh8965

Жыл бұрын

Great honest post we need more people like you. Rival fan but an honest one. Salute you sir.

@artminusme

Жыл бұрын

@@tonyh8965 🍻 Thank you mate, Growing up my mum was a blue and my dad was a red 😂 both from Bury then they moved to Essex. So I had to make a choice on a club, chose City purely because Ian Curtis from Joy Division (a band I love) supported City then the next thing I know we got a boat load of money lol So I watched the Man United dominance thru my dad's fandom and City's woeful times in leagues below as a kid and if your a football fan, Sir Alex is easily the best premier league manager/UK manager and most likely the best in all of Football (Ancelotti probably 2nd then Pep 3rd for me all time) Pep does have potential to eclipse both Sir Alex and Ancelotti but it all hangs on if he stays super long term at the club and for the modern game I can't see that happening.

@leevancleef451

Жыл бұрын

@@artminusme can you get any deeper up Tony's hole..

@Mr.93.20

8 ай бұрын

Pep won that treble and if he wins the Prem that’s 4 in a row and won manager of the year in Europe.

There isn't even a debate. Sir Alex was a monster.

Ferguson hands down and that's coming from an Arsenal fan. Look at the Man Utd side he won the premier league with before he retired.

@Alice-th9lu

Жыл бұрын

Wenger never spent more than 10Mil for a defender till Mustafi was signed and still qualified for CL 20 years in a row. If he had the option to spend as much as our competitors he would have signed every top player that came to EPL after we moved to the Emirates. So the comparison between the managers is not legit without applying proper context.

@21DMN

Жыл бұрын

In trophies Ferguson wins, in what he has contributed to football Pep Guardiola wins.

@samueldavids3704

Жыл бұрын

@@Alice-th9lu Thank you. Someone with a brain. Im not an Arsenal or United fan (I dont support anyone in the premier league) but people overlook the fact that Arsene Wenger defeated Ferguson at a time where Ferguson was already established and had all the power, money and coverage. United were a franchise when Arsene came along with his few quid and took a few titles from ferguson. Arsene Wenger doesn't get enough cfredit for what he did. Chelsea's cash injection took a bigger hit towards Arsenal than it did against united because Arsenal were still significantly smaller than United. United were big enough to take Chelsea's hit. How people forget.

@limofootball

Жыл бұрын

Look at the referees. Pep is clear of this fraud and his aftermath shows it. No philosophy left behind HAHAHA

@diehard21000

Жыл бұрын

@@Alice-th9lu How about this for proper context fergie won the Scottish title with Aberdeen the last team to win league title outside of the old firm, and won Cup winners Cup beating Real Madrid in final and bayern munich in run, there's no comparison fergie was another level to wenger

These guys literally ignore the fact that Wenger single-handedly built Arsenal a new Stadium and made sure he stabilized the finances at Arsenal throughout the decade in which he wasn't getting much silverware! The current financial stability of the Gunners is partially down to Wenger's legacy over his last decade as a manager!

@neiljameson4275

Жыл бұрын

Wenger hasn't even got his cscs card so doubt he built a stadium as he wouldn't be aloud on site

@oghaze9318

Жыл бұрын

Wengerball existed long before Man City or prime Barca were a thing, the media bias against him is real...

@mister3566

Жыл бұрын

@@oghaze9318 As a Man united fan I disliked Arsene but now I think it's disgraceful he never gets a mention

@CollinY818

Жыл бұрын

@@oghaze9318 it was nowhere near Barca or city's ball today let's be real 6 trophies 99 points and 4 trophies in a season 100 points

@oghaze9318

Жыл бұрын

@@CollinY818 That's because back then defenders actually defended, you had to be a special team to get 3-0 scorelines regularly let alone more than 5 wins in a row, now any team can win 4-0 and go on a 10 game unbeaten run

Anyone who says Pep must be too young to remember how huge Manchester United and Sir Alex Ferguson were. Together they were the premier league and I hated every minute of their reign 😂

Wengers is gold,something no other manager has,he made the English game great again…

Souness saying Wenger is not in the conversation is hilarious, He literally changes football culture in England.

@winterbird4447

Жыл бұрын

Wengers last 10 years were not great though. He did well considering they built a stadium and that took finances away from transfers but it tainted his legacy in this conversation.

@russellward4624

Жыл бұрын

OK but how many league titles did he win?

@madmanmoz6365

Жыл бұрын

We are discuss results tropies amd success not the culture of clubs pal

@darkroomxvii

Жыл бұрын

I thought that as well. Wenger literally changed the way people thought about football, the way players trained, everything. He brought a level of tactical sophistication to the game that just wasn’t there before, similar to what Pep is doing now. Granted, Ferguson won more trophies and won consistently through his management so his legacy is probably better but still, Wenger can’t just be dismissed like that

@tweedlio2763

Жыл бұрын

Mourinho is ahead of Wenger.

It's insulting to think Wengers name doesn't even get a mentioned. players themselves mention how Wenger introduced suppliments and no drinking before games and so on . To think people have forgot he changed the English game

@oliverboisen7475

Жыл бұрын

No wonder Souness doesn't mention him. He took away his pint 😭

@lukegodfrey9391

Жыл бұрын

Recency bias. Wenger changed the game like no one before him.

@bighands69

Жыл бұрын

Wenger only won 3 league titles and his last win was in 2004 which is 18 years ago. Ferguson was managing and winning titles right up until 2013. Not even comparable.

SAF built his team from scratch and restructured the whole club from what he inherited, which incidentally wasn't very great. Hence the reason why it took him a while to get started. PG inherited a decent squad and a blank cheque to go and buy whatever he wanted. There is a big difference. SAF did the same at Aberdeen, where PG has walked into good clubs in previous managerial positions with decent sized budgets and a good group of players. The test would be, PG walking into a club like SAF walked into and seeing what he can do with that club. I would love to see how far he would get if he became the new Utd manager now...

@BigNaz1

Жыл бұрын

@John Wilson World class football? 50 times more difficult to win games like that? What are you on about?

@BigNaz1

Жыл бұрын

@John Wilson Sounds like you're a deluded City fan!

@userafpk

Жыл бұрын

I’m a Celtic fan and don’t particularly like United but to say they were simply effective is mad. They were completely electric to watch for the majority of the Ferguson years. Drinking too much of the pep kool aid making you oversimplify things

@carlturner6625

Жыл бұрын

@@BigNaz1 Yeah Nasar an Oil City F.C fan since 2012 🇾🇪👹🇾🇪👹 .

@BigNaz1

Жыл бұрын

@John Wilson Maybe you've got a thing for Pep. Or you seriously lack football knowledge!

I think there being a bit unfair to Wenger, won the premier league, brought some fabulous players to England, qualified regular for the champions league without spending crazy transfer fees, selling players for a profit, which all in turn help fund the new stadium. Great Legacy.

@thefelrider

Жыл бұрын

Wenger was ahread of Fergie in many ways.

@madmanmoz6365

Жыл бұрын

Hes not in the conversation, he wasnt a polific winner like Sir Alex amd Pep, he isnt in the same league. Get over it

Pep changed the way modern football is viewed today. His barcelona team is the pinnacle of club football , the amount of imitators that team created speaks volumes about their impact to the present game. can't compare Pep to a 442 merchant.

@ThatGuy-du3sq

Жыл бұрын

They are comparing in the PL not what that lemon did in Spain, you maggot.

@philbarton2832

Жыл бұрын

The fact that you've basically described Sir Alex Ferguson as just a 442 merchant makes your opinion on anything football related irrelevant

@amolbhatia1449

Жыл бұрын

You're right. You can't compare Pep to the greatest football manager of all time.

@ringlora2

Жыл бұрын

bro, celtic and rangers were the equivalent of current day man city in the scottish league. Aberdeen were like your current day brighton. Ferguson came into Aberdeen and won 3 leagues...Pep is nowhere near him.

@ringlora2

Жыл бұрын

Aberdeen had started the 1979-80 season poorly but their form improved dramatically in the new year and they won the Scottish league that season with a 5-0 win on the final day. It was the first time in 15 years that the league had not been won by either Rangers or Celtic

As a united fan, I think the biggest influence on the prem is without doubt Arsene Wenger. Before Wenger, players were beer drinking, burger eating, un-athletic footballers. Then Wenger came and everybody realised what was needed.

@dopelyrics6223

Жыл бұрын

As a United fan, you should know that way before Wenger, Fergie ripped the heart of the drinking culture out of Old Trafford.

@jg5622

Жыл бұрын

@@dopelyrics6223 only have history to cling to now eh? Relegation this season for Ushited?

@dopelyrics6223

Жыл бұрын

@@jg5622 JG you silly sausage. Whether United get relegated or not is irrelevant. I was pointing out what Fergie did to the drinking culture at Old Trafford. Maybe you should stick to tiddlywinks and leave football chat to the big boys. 🤣🤣

@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings

Жыл бұрын

Wenger Effected Fitness Guardiola Effected Football

@cryogenixoldskool5803

Жыл бұрын

Its delusional and wishful thinking to state that United will get relegated based on the first two games of the season

Greatest will be Ferguson for sure but there are managers who brought different approach and impact in Premier League first would be Arsene Wenger then Mourinho now Pep and Klopp.

@ih4447

Жыл бұрын

What has Klopp done ? 1 premier league title in 6 years, it is an insult to put him in the conversation.

@saranshsharma4005

Жыл бұрын

Lol, Ranieri would have been the better choice to put in there.. Klopp is a flopp, Loserpoops

@fredrikdahl1230

Жыл бұрын

@@ih4447 well to be fair, City has won some of them, although it still might be kinda underwhelming. I mean, he still has some second place finsishes. City is not a bad team remember , so you could say it is disappointing but in my opinion at least, it goes both ways. Also klopp made the champions league final with dortmund in 2013. Longevity wise i agree he is not in the Convo yet, but neither is pep, since he has only been at City one more season than klopp. At their best as managers , sure, pep might be better, but they both have their strengths and weaknesses. And pep has had and still has a lot of great players . Both are the best now, but imo it all comes down to preference. I dont know, just my opinion 🤷‍♂️⚽️⚽️🤔 for me it's also about having a ceiling raiser and a floor raiser. Ceiling raiser means you as a manager make a already good team, great. While a floor raiser makes a bad/decent/average team a better team/ a good team, maybe even great. Pep is the first and klopp is a floor raiser. None of them is better than the other. But lets not pretend that klopp has been a bad manager. Thats just not right imo. Say what you want, but as a city fan and Barcelona fan myself , i think klopp gets overlooked sometimes. If thats down to tactics or style of play, i dont know. But klopp is one of the pl goat managers as much as guardiola.

@seandaly7020

Жыл бұрын

@@ih4447 klopp rebuild Liverpool as a whole since he’s arrival in 2016, he won every trophy you possible could amongst giants like city and United and their billions spent. And he’s brought in some of the most entertaining football styles in years

@fredrikdahl1230

Жыл бұрын

@@seandaly7020 yeah thats what i mean aswell. I just think it's important to remember that although pep guardiola has had to perform with all the great players he has managed, he still has had alot of financial resources to buy players, especially at City. Yeah fair enough, you could say that about others aswell ,like Ancelotti, those Milan teams were amazing. And real madrid and etc. But compared to klopp, klopp, although having some financial abundance at liverpool aswell, might not have had the same as city has. Just my opinion.😃🤷‍♂️🤔⚽️

The fact that Souness can't summarise Pep's tactical legacy beyond "playing out from the back" demonstrates just how clueless he is about modern football. He has no place providing insight in today's game tbh. He's the archaic grandad who can only tell you about the game from the 80s. Irrelevant

@paulmcnamara9272

Жыл бұрын

Shut up he played in a better team than citys and won three European cups something those City players can't even win once.

@vcsl14

Жыл бұрын

What's that got to do with his validity as a modern day pundit? Keep your low IQ comments to yourself. Muppet

@Harry65921

Жыл бұрын

@@paulmcnamara9272 imagine Souness’ team trying to get near De Bruyne, Silva, Rodri, Gundogan and Foden passing in triangles around them

@mel-bp1kp

Жыл бұрын

@@Harry65921 imagine how Mourinho destroyed Tiki taka twice at Inter and Madrid.

@paulmcnamara9272

Жыл бұрын

@@Harry65921 He way better player than they were. He won way more as well including three European cups something they couldn't even it win it once.

Souness is doing Wenger a disservice here I think. Arsene Wenger changed the way people thought about football, similar to Pep in that way. He changed the way players trained, the way players ate (and drank), and the way a football moved around the pitch. He brought a level of tactical sophistication that hadn’t been seen before. You’d have Sunday league teams trying to move the ball as fluidly as the invincibles, just like how now you have Sunday league teams trying to play out from the back with inverted wingers and false 9s, etc. Granted, he didn’t achieve those consistently high levels past the decade mark, and because of that Fergie’s legacy is probably greater. But he nevertheless had a massive impact while winning a lot of trophies, especially in the early years. His achievements weren’t just down to a “knowledge of French football”, it was much more extensive than that

@euanscotland

Жыл бұрын

U wot m8

Its funny how the media try to change history to you young ones... Wenger is defintely a great .. not only on the pitch but off the pitch too..his intelligence is unmatched, humanitarian, i garuntee there are more ex players who love wenger over fergie etc

@philbarton2832

Жыл бұрын

Wenger had a great impact on the league sure but his last year's were of stagnation and stubbornness to change. SAF's longevity and success for almost his entire utd career puts him firmly at the top of the tree. I'd rate wenger higher than pep though

@bighands69

Жыл бұрын

No body is talking about love. If you want that go and read an LGBTQAP++ publication. In a man's game it is all about football style and winning.

Arsene Wenger took Arsenal from big team in England to the global stage. Arsene's greatest legacy is, he helped build a stadium in London that will help bank-roll the club for the future...

Spurs fan here, imo Ferguson is hands down the best manager in the history of football. No questions asked.

@yester9037

Жыл бұрын

In the premier league yes, "in the history of football no questions asked" that's disrespectful to a lot of great managers

@chriswilliamson7694

Жыл бұрын

Of course there's a questions to ask. What a ludicrous statement.

@windrider6124

Жыл бұрын

@@yester9037 whos better?

@windrider6124

Жыл бұрын

@@chriswilliamson7694 do you have another candidate? When it comes to achivements Ferguson were/are nr 1.

@chriswilliamson7694

Жыл бұрын

@@windrider6124 , I have plenty. Rinus Michels, Brian Clough, Helenio Herrera, Jock Stein, Udo Lattek, Otto Rehagel, Tele Santana etc. etc. I'm not saying they're all greater than Ferguson, just that it's ludicrous to say there's no case for any of them. They might all have minor holes or imperfections on their records - but so does Ferguson.

All this men built teams,Wenger built a stadium, sold his best players and finished top 4 and still played lovely football. None of this coaches given the same task would achieve the same results.

@asimqazi1943

Жыл бұрын

Played lovely football and invincibles aren't synonymous. The invincibles played similar to the high press of klopp rather than the passing football they are for some wierd reason remembered by now by nostalgia merchants. Infact it was due to wenger switching from pace power to possession football that led to the downfall of arsenal as they didn't win a Premier league since.

@asimqazi1943

Жыл бұрын

Daniel levy built a better stadium through prudent financial discipline... are we now going to laud him for that. Wenger apologists have the same few talking points which they harp on about

@Khatamoga

Жыл бұрын

@@asimqazi1943 We pressed like Klopp when we didn't have the ball. Its a system that has been at ARSENAL since Henry to Aubamayeng. Lacazette would drop in the mid like the way berkamp did. Overlapping fullbacks Lauren and Ashley Cole just like Belerin and Teirney. Tony and the boys held a high offside trap we did it with likes of Mete and Mustafi which led to Cech winning the golden glove but Giroud goes a whole half a season without scoring. Arsenal has played the same for over 20yrs the difference is perssonel and mindset. We lost the likes of Gilberto and Viera Tony Pires that's mindset we never replaced.

@Khatamoga

Жыл бұрын

@@asimqazi1943 How many trophies has Dany levy won? How many of his best players did he have to sell ? They is no way Arsene would have had Harry Kane a 3 time top scorer and assist leader and won nothing. Please don't bring up a club that doesn't match up to Arsene let alone Arsenal. This man changed English football not my words. Arsene changed how the game is played in and outside of the pitch. From diets(the whole of Europe copied that) scouting(when everyone was sleeping on the french league Wenger was there since 03/04 invincible season we have seen likes Drogba Mahrez Kante Hazard from Ligue 1) transfers (buy a player for nothing sell him on a profit) if Ferguson is the ultimate winner in the Epl and if he is your goat makes a lot of sense anyone else is a joke ting. It's the Giggs vs Henry argument. The winner vs the invincible

@asimqazi1943

Жыл бұрын

@@Khatamoga wenger inherited his defence which was the best at the time, signed high profile players which only young and naive arsenal fans think were unknown at the time (Henry was literally sold because he was unable to displace del piero the highest paid player that time not because he was bad but because del piero was crazy good before his injury). The Premier league was also incredibly less competitive that time than it is now with prem league revenues actually stagnating between 1997 and 2005 as people preferred serie a and la liga over Premier league. Wenger was a great manager but young fans have a habit of waxing lyrically about wenger and the good ole days when infact they were not the greatest side and poor in Europe. I mean juventus had an unbeaten season in 2011 after they had finished two seasons prior as 7th in the league. You don't see them bragging about it. The invincibles were lucky just like juventus. Total points matter not whether you lost a match or not

I love these 3 man Jordan, Souness & White. Thank you talk sport

For Premier League it's Fergie and I don't think anyone can argue. As a tactician Pep is far superior. As a motivator Fergie is far superior. Overall Pep built better teams and played better football. And I think the trophies count will be close too by the end. But in terms of influencing football in this country it's Wenger and Pep. Fergie was a winner, but not a revolutionary.

@goncaloamaral7846

Жыл бұрын

Pep is not a revolutionary, there’s some evolution but everything he does has been seen before. Pep prevented Ferguson from being in the greatest ever argument by tea bagging SAF in two CL finals. Had Ferguson won those & had 4 CL’s it’s a different conversation. Ferguson is the most successful boss domestically, his European record lets him down.

@thelimey351

Жыл бұрын

Yup, Ferguson got schooled in those two CL finals.

@louislim2004

Жыл бұрын

@@thelimey351 come on. That team has a prime messi, xavi and iniesta. That team was unbeatable!

@MrChrisBarker

Жыл бұрын

Class of 92 says different.

@mosespelican3507

Жыл бұрын

@@goncaloamaral7846 in reality you can’t truly come up with something new in football that hasn’t been done before, but you can’t deny Wenger and Pep influenced the league like no other

Pep has never won anything with an average squad of players to my knowledge. Sir Alex won the European title with Aberdeen. You can’t even compare them. Yes Pep can get elite players to play a very particular way and it’s very good but I doubt he could turn an average club with limited budget into title contenders.

@hen5555

Жыл бұрын

And you can't compare European football in 83 to modern times, he won it twice in 20 odd year with United, hardly prolific.

@tlangelanishikwambana8596

Жыл бұрын

Did Sir play average players at United?

@barramundi9863

Жыл бұрын

Bingo!

@laurabrooks9213

Жыл бұрын

Pep needs to manage in the premier League for 20 years to compare the both

@danadams8649

Жыл бұрын

pep has never been an average manager to ever manage an average team...

I've been a City fan 30 years and what Peps done for us is incredible well never see football like it ever again But it's Ferguson it isn't even a debate really is it

@UrbanSherman

Жыл бұрын

It's nice to see a football fan put rivalry aside and speak the truth. Pep is no doubt an outstanding manager and maybe could succeed SAF

@parster2010

Жыл бұрын

@@UrbanSherman not a fan of either team but it's a bit like asking who has had the most influence on modern music Paul McCartney or Gary Barlow.

@grealish2234

Жыл бұрын

@@parster2010 it's not . Peps barca is the greatest team ever and sir alex could never do it

@craphead9842

Жыл бұрын

Money talks now.. Endof... Tony cuenca

@znhait

Жыл бұрын

It will be a debate if Pep stays around, even for five more years, and continues on this path. City have set the standard where winning the league requires 90+ points. I think United had that total two or three times, if that, during Fergie's era. Of course, the top teams are getting more money than ever and dominating, but Pep has changed English football.

Pep over fergie all day long. The football and style of play is top notch. Pep also schooled fergie twice in the champions league final

@vlsui66

Жыл бұрын

Fergie over pep all day long (in the prem). 1) Fergie rebuilt a club at least three different times at three different eras. 2) Fergie won the treble with united, which pep hasn't won (in the prem). 3) Fergie has 3 ucls, and pep doesn't even have one. 4) Fergie has more premier league titles than pep. 5) Fergie has greater longevity. 6) Fergie can win the prem with different players and different generations - look at the 90s winning team compared to the 2013 winning team.

You cannot say anyone except Sir Alex , just look at how many have tried and failed since he's retired, just shows how hard a job it is and sir Alex had it down to a fine art

@ss-dz8fv

Жыл бұрын

overrrated overhyped outclassed in europe

Arsene Wenger didn't had the resources that Man Utd or City have right now but still he made Arsenal consistently qualify for UCL despite loosing so many Big Players which i think is a very big achievement

@shyme_8280

Жыл бұрын

U kidding right? 🤣

Jose is the greatest premier league manager For the simple reason he ended sir Alex rain unlike pep who came to EPL at a time when no club had the dominant Force

@aathamazhiqi3481

Жыл бұрын

He ended SAF reign? He won in 2005 and 2006, SAF won 2007, 2008, 2009. By the Maureenio was gone. Get the facts right!

The youngest manager to win champions league, who inherited poor Barcelona squad and turned them to the best squad that humiliated Sir Alex's Man U in the final. The first manager to win domestic treble in england in just less than 3 years even Sir Alex failed to win domestic treble in his 27 years at old trafford. Pep in his first season as the first team manager, he led Barcelona to the treble of La Liga, UEFA Champions League, and the Copa del Rey, becoming the youngest manager to win the aforementioned European competition. Pep was already one of the best managers in his first season in top flight football.He is the first manager to get 100 points in the epl, Sir Alex only got 90 points twice in the epl history first in 2000/2001 and 2008/2009. Pep won the epl only once with less than 93 points in his spell in england. Both are greatest manager but Pep wins for me, he changed the way football is played in england in just 2 years and arguable Man city plays the most beautiful football in the world.

@philbarton2832

Жыл бұрын

And yet pep isn't the greatest prem manager ever...not even second best. SAF longevity and constant success sky rockets over peps.

It's only as I have gotten older I appreciate Graham Souness opinions. Watched him on RTE(irish television) years ago, couldn't take to him as an analyst. Now I realise he's direct, to the point and will stick to his beliefs or opinions. Great qualities to have.

@mikehunt1528

Жыл бұрын

Hard as nails too. He made Roy Keane seem like Tom Daly.

@smallarmskepa4390

Жыл бұрын

@@mikehunt1528 do you like it when men are hard for you, big boy?

@vcsl14

Жыл бұрын

The fact that Souness can't summarise Pep's tactical legacy beyond "playing out from the back" demonstrates just how clueless he is about modern football. He has no place providing insight in today's game tbh. He's the archaic grandad who can only tell you about the game from the 80s. Irrelevant

@ReverZe83

Жыл бұрын

Can't stand Souness, he's a fuckin gob shite, can't say anything good about man united so can't take him seriously. I get the rivalry between Liverpool and United but let it fuckin go, you're a grown man FFS!! No way pep has a better legacy than SAF.

@brigdetgillespie4040

Жыл бұрын

Winner'

Graham, again. The Manager who had The greatest impact on English football in the Premier league era Has to be Arsene Wenger. He was the guy who brought in the sport science people, after his experience in Japan. That Revolutionised English, top flight, football from that point forwards.

@amajeet

Жыл бұрын

Don't forget that Rijkaards Barca copied him and then Pep done it too, but British bastards of a slimy media never credited Arsene and just copied the Spanish praise for Pep and his 'tiki-taka'.

@bighands69

Жыл бұрын

You are talking crap about Wenger.

@alexandrew8227

Жыл бұрын

@@bighands69 Thanks for that, its always good to hear from the angry armchair brigade. Enjoy your day 😁

@amajeet

Жыл бұрын

@@bighands69 Arsene has always been a pioneer, and very well educated on and off the pitch. Can't say same about sweaty, sweary, cunty 'sirs' fergnose.

@Blahem1233

Жыл бұрын

"he stopped players putting mayo on their burgers" wow what a trophy for Wenger

the period united have gone through in the 10 years since sir alex left proves just how great of a manager he was, how that man won so much silverwear with some of the teams he put out still baffles me to this day but thats what makes him a genius. who else could play rafael, gibson, oshea & fabio as a midfield 4 and knock a full stength arsenal team out the FA cup!? that alone makes him the greatest of all time. 🤣🤣

@MalikCreek

Жыл бұрын

🤣😂

SAF built it from scratch. He didn’t inherit anything

@registame2878

Жыл бұрын

Spot on

@saranshsharma4005

Жыл бұрын

What did pep inherit? A team of oldies???

@adam_p99

Жыл бұрын

@@saranshsharma4005 He inherited a club with bottomless pockets. Plus an existing squad that was capable of winning the league.

@rohithraman6488

Жыл бұрын

@@adam_p99 To be fair the defence Pep inherited had an average age of 32

@sidbob1215

Жыл бұрын

@@adam_p99 So you’re saying Utd didn’t have the money and monopoly to buy all the players they wanted at the time. Come off it

Wenger deserves a worthy mention.

"PL is different animal Pep" Not long ago Fergie v Pep debate would not be entertained 13 Titles,2 CL(26yrs) v 10 Titles,2 CL(13yrs) Not far from now Fergie in conversation with Pep may not be entertained 😂

@fvresonanator

Жыл бұрын

Ferguson won the European Cup with Aberdeen! Do some research

Ancelotti, for me, is the greatest manager of this generation. He’s won at least one league title in: La Liga PL Bundesliga Serie A Managed in all of Europe’s top 5 leagues. And, has 5 champions league titles, under his belt. The greatest.

@NotMe-el3hg

Жыл бұрын

4 ucl, 5 league titles. One of the greats but not the greatest

@CYU56

Жыл бұрын

look at the managers and there style of play and how they have impacted football

@applepieclub5012

Жыл бұрын

@@NotMe-el3hg who is the greatest, of this generation?

@applepieclub5012

Жыл бұрын

@@CYU56 it means nothing if you don’t win.

Happy 30th birthday to the best league in the world 🌎long lives EPL football. been following it since the 02/03 season in Nigeria.

Fergie is greatest. Wenger made it attractive and non-monopolised (non-Bundesliga/PSG). After that, it's the financial doping era.

@rohithraman6488

Жыл бұрын

To be fair financial doping has always been in football it's just that the scale was always going to get bigger

@jimboyd1277

Жыл бұрын

@@rohithraman6488 The ever widening gap between the "have and have nots" is very destructive.

@rohithraman6488

Жыл бұрын

@@jimboyd1277 Fergie, Wenger and Mourinho are the 3 best for me

Arsene Wenger. Won the double in his first full season, went a whole season unbeaten, qualified for the CL for 18 years running and totally changed the game.

@Edgisco

Жыл бұрын

Wait you're not saying Wenger over Fergie are you? 😂😂😂

@davidpetitetoopageofficiel3088

Жыл бұрын

@@Edgisco Defo over pep

@clivet3252

Жыл бұрын

@@Edgisco Yes of course. Fergie was a disgrace.

@Edgisco

Жыл бұрын

@@clivet3252 how long have you been an Arsenal fan for?

The very mention of Arsenal has always made Souness,s blood run cold🤔 so so salty...Pep has always had money to build the best sides..Arsen had to rely on unknowns..Like Henry who failed at Juventus.

@vcsl14

Жыл бұрын

Souness is an irrelevant dinosaur. He literally can't even describe Pep's tactical legacy beyond "playing out from the back".

@ShiNooBi1986

Жыл бұрын

1989

@michaelh5593

Жыл бұрын

@@ShiNooBi1986 yep absolutely ! He has never ever forgiven Arsenal for that and can never ever move on, Plus he had a spell at Tottenham , So no he will never have anything positive to say regarding Arsenal.

SAF without question, no one is ever going to do what he did over an extended period, he also built that squad to dominate the English game. Pep had the best squad at Barca handed to him on a plate, same with Munich and the same with City. Until he builds something from scratch he shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath. This from a Liverpool fan too.

How can you talk about succession thinking for Wenger when he was directly involved in building a new stadium, and a new state-of-the-art training facility alongside revolutionizing the game with statistics tracking?

@andychatt23

Жыл бұрын

He never won a bean after "building" the new stadium.

The hate for Pep Guardiola is ridiculous... Idk why, the money?? Well United has spent more and has 1 title in a decade

@erikschneider1719

Жыл бұрын

Well the point is Ferguson didn’t have the financial backing Pep did, especially towards the end, and yet he managed to win UCL on top of it all which pep hasn’t done with city

@erikschneider1719

Жыл бұрын

Pep is #2 in my books though, as good as they come

@ultrascreens5206

Жыл бұрын

Because he uses his Barca reputation where he inherited Messi, Xavi, Iniesta and picks an chooses big clubs that are already winning and willing to spend even more for him. Not that he’s overrated but this has to be kept in mind

@oliverboisen7475

Жыл бұрын

@@erikschneider1719 Fergie didn't have financial backing? Gimme a break

@madmanmoz6365

Жыл бұрын

Sir Alex never had and of that £1b. Fergie coached players and made them world class, he spent little compared to what pep and the current spend over the past 10 years. Pep walks straight into teams that are winning, if both mangers didnt have money who would come out on top because i know who would! Pep would have a hard time

Pep came in and won the league. Great! But two managers had done the same. Ferguson came in and won with a mediocre team. 23 years never out of top three. Man City are great because of money. Chelsea the same. The owners are the ones. Pep has done great at a big club with money. Congratulations but twenty years? But nonsense to say he left the next guy a burning wreck. That is hyperbole.

@brazenflow6715

Жыл бұрын

It’s relative really, united during ferguson’s reign spent the most during the 90’s so money talks in football; it’s just got out of control financially

@blackwaterproduction289

Жыл бұрын

True, but Pep has created arguably the greatest side English football has ever seen! Winning in style every season, and not any style the total football style! Every team and I mean every team in the world today try to play the way Pep plays! In terms of the overall legacy I have never seen any football manager that was able to revolutionize football the way Pep has done! However, SAF still edges it for me as the greatest football manager of all time, but I also believe it's only a matter of time before we start calling Pep that! Also never forget that he had created the absolute best football team ever existed anywhere anytime Barcelona 2009 - 2012! You can't even do the things they were doing on a playstation, Fifa/ PES whatever! They were that good! Man City are on top because of money and Chelsea as well, but isn't it ironic that Man United have done far worse when they started to pour money like crazy! It just goes to show you that money alone doesn't bring you success, it just brings you more options! All in all as a Chelsea fan, I have never felt exhausted about a premier league season the way I do now because of City, and that was exactly the feeling I had when Fergie was there! Those two sides just completely break your fucking spirit, you can do the double over them and they still manage to clinch the title away from you 😂

@rohithraman6488

Жыл бұрын

Jose Mourinho was great at Chelsea

@frankford1115

Жыл бұрын

@@rohithraman6488 He was fantastic! Brilliant. What a team he built. Until he wasn’t! Then he got himself fired.

@rohithraman6488

Жыл бұрын

@@frankford1115 He got fired cause the players were a disgrace. I am a Chelsea fan who watched most of our games that season, the players who played so well the season before to win the league just couldn't care less, Hazard had to wait until January to score his first goal IN ALL COMPETITIONS, and even that was a penalty against MK Dons, Ivanovic was rubbish, Costa was rubbish, Fabregas was rubbish, Matic, etc. I liked them at Chelsea overall but they were a disgrace that season. The only regular players who performed to their potential were Willian and Zouma

Greatest impact? Wenger. Even Mou bringing the 4-3-3 and Bus parking (Mou showed that a good attack wins you games but a great defense wins you the league).

@aaroningl

Жыл бұрын

George Graham set the defensive blueprint.

As we're including fergusons cv pre the prem, I will say that Bob Paisley is the unrivalled manager of English football x

Pep, in addition to winning trophies like Ferguson did, has tactically contributed infinitely much more to modern football than Ferguson. Pep implemented a method of numerical superiority through the wings and wings, of starting the game with the ball from behind where the goalkeeper is one more player, of pressing after losing the ball and, above all, of playing with a false 9 in a regular. Some of these things were done before in a very exceptional way but with poor results. What Pep has brought to football is worth more than any trophy.

@oliverboisen7475

Жыл бұрын

Don't forget inverted fullbacks. If you played inverted fullbacks in the 90's in England people would've thought you'd gone mad

Ferguson 13 league titles with United and 3 with Aberdeen. Pep 3 with Barcelona, 3 with Bayern and 4 with City....so far. You'd have to think Pep may well out-title Ferguson in the end, but both have done marvellously well, Ferguson shading it for now.

@andychatt23

Жыл бұрын

But you have to remember where Aberdeen and United were when Fergie arrived.

@teenagestar4759

Жыл бұрын

Aberdeen does not count for nothing .... No body cares about Scottish football..

@skicaliph

Жыл бұрын

Shading? …

@ringlora2

Жыл бұрын

Pep doesn't stay at one club for too long, because then he has to rebuild, he wins what he can then moves on to the next big side he can inherit, and always with a big cheque book.

Both are great.

Scots gonna stick up for each other. Guardiola for me is the greatest coach. The man has revolutionized football in the modern era with the philosophy of Renus Michels and Johan Cruyff

Forgetting Wenger’s impact on the whole culture of English football. Fergusson only ever impacted United.

@ih4447

Жыл бұрын

Wengers impact is a bit of a myth, Fergie was already doing most of what Wenger had apparently introduced to the league. There was a reason United were so far ahead of everyone in the Premier league in the 90s.

@mattheendpod2659

Жыл бұрын

@@ih4447I’ve been ruminating on this reply four a few hours and I’m still unsure to what level I agree. Which, is definitely contrary to my initial comment. Excellent work.

1st of all Ferguson has the most titles ever. 2nd of all he made 4 generations of world class teams. He spent money but not like how it’s spent now days.

@timothymodishi4755

Жыл бұрын

pep will easily break that record before he retire

@bluemoon1716

Жыл бұрын

One word, inflation, spending 30 mil on Rio back in the day is like 60 70 mil now

@parster2010

Жыл бұрын

@@timothymodishi4755 If he goes to PSG or Newcastle - if he doesn't win it this year surely questions need to be asked ?

@hboss7039

Жыл бұрын

@@wayne8153 100% I agree, during the start of peps reign as city manager, chelsea were inconsistent & klopp just started building his team, only now theirs a lot of competition. Back in the day there was invincible arsenal, old school arsenal, mourinhos chelsea, ancelottis chelsea, Benitez Liverpool teams and even mancinis city sides. Furgie dominated all those eras. I’m saying this as a chelsea fan.

@ShiNooBi1986

Жыл бұрын

Plus look at what Fergie started with and changed compared to the billions Pep started with and billions he later spent. From an Arsenal fan, it's not even a conversation. Sir Alex is top

I do believe, that how ever big Sir Alex was for Manchester United, I also think he is the reason to the problems United has had since he left. I would love to hear you discuss the backside of a huge personality and how much he actually had control over United. My take is that when Sir Alex left the dugout, United didn't have the organisation nor the skill, to handle the business about recruitment and signing players in the transfer market. The best manager with the biggest influence in British top flight football is Arsene Wenger. He absolutely changed the dynamic of the league and he is the reason to the development for the Premier League. Absolutely fantastic character. When he and Sir Alex had their clashes I always felt it was a clash of cultures and a fight between the new era and the old...with Sir Alex defending the old british football culture. The outcome will always be evolvement... As I wrote..I would love to hear Simon Jordan, Jim White and Graeme Souness have their say on this. To make it clear. I'm a fan of Aston Villa, and I've been that since I was 7 years old. It's now 49 years of love to a club, a football league and a football culture. I also think that the trio of Jordan, White and Souness are fantastic at Talksport and that's why I want their take on it.

@bighands69

Жыл бұрын

Ferguson has to do with Man Utd's decline. Football clubs cannot stay the best for ever.

@hIbeRniAnfc-od2iw

Жыл бұрын

Your deluded

@ltreanor99

Жыл бұрын

Your crazy dude 😂 the only thing that happened was the glazers when they began appointing bankers and not the professionals in them Pacific roles.

@shannaidoo130

8 ай бұрын

@@ltreanor99 Ferguson was greedy.Greats like Robbo, Bruce, Keane were not asked to stay on as coaches with the club. I have been a fan since '79 and Arsene Wenger and Bobby Robson are my favorites.

Pep is an artist of a manager brings imagination in to reality in terms of watching football but longevity is wins it unless Pep is here for another 10 years

Sir Alex Ferguson is not only the best manager in premier league history, but one of the greatest managers in world football of all time.

@aru8302

Жыл бұрын

World football not... Just premier farmer league when he was a coach.

@danielwhittaker3596

Жыл бұрын

@@aru8302 🤣🤣 there’s too many things wrong with that sentence for me to start. It’s obvious you know nothing about football, either way too young to remember the Fergie era or a bitter fan of a rival club. Either way, do your research before you make yourself look silly again pal 👍🏻🤣

@aru8302

Жыл бұрын

@@danielwhittaker3596 its easy, Alex can speak other lenguage than English? he is no one out of UK.

@danielwhittaker3596

Жыл бұрын

@@aru8302 do you research, Sir Alex has won 48 trophies in his managerial career, the most of ANY manager in WORLD footballing history. What’s speaking multiple languages got to do with anything? Carlo Ancelotti can speak 4 different languages and Sir Alex has won more than DOUBLE the trophies. Jose Mourinho speaks 6, Sir Alex nearly double the amount of trophies. Sir Alex speaks the language of FOOTBALL! 😎 So once again, before you make yourself look foolish, do your homework! 👍🏻🤣

@aru8302

Жыл бұрын

@@danielwhittaker3596 48 trophies and 10 are charity shields hahaha and 0 out of England... what a coach!! englis media really works well.. but later come the Papa Real Madrid hehe

Pep changed the way every team in the league plays

@tlangelanishikwambana8596

Жыл бұрын

Exactly... Everyone seems to wanna shy away from this🤣🤣🤣

@rickyreward226

Жыл бұрын

That was arsene Wenger. Pep coppied everything from Wenger

@bighands69

Жыл бұрын

I have never read such nonsense in all my life. It was the same sort of crap that used to be talked when the Media fanboys were egging on Arsenal the invincibles as being the greatest football team of all time. Some were saying that Arsenal under Wenger was playing better football than Brazil of 1970. DO not mention double pivots I am not interested.

@footballhipstertv

Жыл бұрын

@@rickyreward226 are you crazy fam. Wenger TRIED to play tiki-taka at times but that wasnt generally how Arsenal play. Pep got his style from Cruyff and improved it. The prem has never seen domination of the ball to the extent that Man City do

@Bulskee

Жыл бұрын

@@bighands69 😂😂👏

I'd have Pep second. You can't deny the impact he's had on the PL. The games played different now. Feel for some defenders and keepers in this era though, they're liable to made look worse due to more being asked of them with the pressure of having to be good technically on the ball rather than just defending. Great defenders in the past like Vidic would be made to look not as good, he was a great defender but wasn't at all technically, hence why rio was a perfect partner for him.

@znhait

Жыл бұрын

So, in your effort to say how defenders weren't technical back then, you make it a point to say that United had two CBs that complemented each other. Defenders weren't asked to play out from the back as much, so it's impossible to say who would have been good at it. Also, the whole idea of building up from the back was just an evolution because the back pass to the keeper was outlawed.

@smallarmskepa4390

Жыл бұрын

Those sides of old where defenders were told to kick the ball as far as possible wouldn’t even get a touch of the ball against a side of today that plays out.

Good point on succession. I think that's one of the biggest failure of a coach who does not have an infrastructure and process for the club to run post his stint.

I'd say Ferguson, simply because he basically started from scratch at both Aberdeen and Utd and built fantastic teams. Pep has taken over 3 massive clubs who were already successful.

@smallarmskepa4390

Жыл бұрын

Pep gets the best jobs at the best clubs because he is the best there is. Simple.

@63mckenzie

Жыл бұрын

@@smallarmskepa4390 Maybe if he took over a club like Everton and made them great, I'd agree.

@smallarmskepa4390

Жыл бұрын

@@63mckenzie that’s not how life works, little guy. The best at their job go to the top and stay there.

@smallarmskepa4390

Жыл бұрын

@@craig5346 Fergie’s side did play against pep’s side in a champions league final and they didn’t touch the ball for 90 minutes. Note that pep’s side had mostly players from their youth academy, iniesta and xavi were fringe players when he came in, and a lot of players that he brought into the first team from when he coached Barcelona B that were worth less than 1mil at the time, for example, Sergio Busquets.

@neutralfan..1627

Жыл бұрын

Man city ain't a massive club.. Never have and will be..👍

Impact on play 1. Arsene Wenger 2. Pep 3. Alex Greatest sir Alex his won the the most

@winterbird4447

Жыл бұрын

Klopp with his pressing.

@registame2878

Жыл бұрын

Only one of those mangers don’t it with there own youth team/academy at it’s core and that is what true sport and more importantly football is truly all about

I love these debates…. Remember last season when they were all debating if the second best team in the league were the greatest team ever?

comparison is killer of joy

1.Ferguson/Wenger 2.Pep Everyone else.

Guardiola is clearly a better Manager than Ferguson, we saw what happened when Guardiola’s Barcelona played Ferguson’s Man Utd in two Champions League finals - on both occasions Ferguson got his ass handed to him on a plate. The difference between the two teams on each occasion was shocking…

@bobsocks7575

Жыл бұрын

🤦🏼‍♂️

@oliverboisen7475

Жыл бұрын

Fergie himself said that Pep's Barca was the hardest opponent he's ever faced

@bighands69

Жыл бұрын

Ferguson also beat Pep once in the semi finals of the Champions league and would have done the same in the final.

@thelimey351

Жыл бұрын

@@bighands69 _Ferguson also beat Pep once in the semi finals of the Champions league_ No, he didn't, Pep was not the Manager at the time !

Wenger changed English football culture. Fitness coaches , food habits , style . Never gets any credit.

As both these managers did it when they had a lot more money by a substantial amount than any other teams. Wenger

Ferguson is in my opinion the greatest manager of all time never mind the Premier League era

@donandres10

Жыл бұрын

Lol 😂

@TheChrisrayc

Жыл бұрын

Did great in Europe didn’t he 🤡

@samueldavids3704

Жыл бұрын

Most of Fergusons success was in a farmers league known as the premier league in the early days. Fergie had it easy as United were the only team who were going to win it. We all knew the result before the season began. The upset seasons were when Blackburn won and Arsenal won the first couple. United had no contest. They had all the money and all the best deals. AC Milan with their manager was doing something similar but Serie A was a superior and more competitive league than Premier League back then as you had the likes of Parma, Juventus, Inter, AC, Napoli. In my opinion after the money came into Chelsea, was when Fergie was truly challenged. He is a great manager, but a lot of his success was when he had no real contest.

@ademakinemmanuel2809

Жыл бұрын

@@samueldavids3704 Ferguson didn’t win the league for 5 years. He built his dynasty himself.

@williamolsen8464

Жыл бұрын

2 cl titles in 30 years. He's so overrated just like man utd

Can't believe this is even a discussion. Fergie hands down

Jose Mourinho. He had this shite utd team and finished 2nd, won the league Cup and the europa Cup!! Absolute legend.

@madmanmoz6365

Жыл бұрын

Jose did do the impossible with that team the owners and fighting the media. Jose is a legend in my eyes

How do you have bad mics if this is literally what you do all day?

Ten hag for me .

Outside of the Prem Pep, Wenger, Mourinho, Conte could never do an Aberdeen...what Sir Alex did their in breaking down and challenging the old firm is truly unbelievable not to mention the European Cup win he had their. Those managers have never did that maybe Wenger but the others go were the money is

@lovezooevents

Жыл бұрын

Mourinho - porto - inter

@robertdennehy7948

Жыл бұрын

@@lovezooevents good point although Porto have always been the best or at least one of the best in Portugal bit to win a champions league with them deserves credit, if he pulls something big off with Roma id be very impressed that conference cup he won doesent fool anyone

@rohithraman6488

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@@robertdennehy7948 Porto were the best in Portugal but many of the players were taken from mid table Portuguese clubs. Ricardo Carvalho (one of the best CBs in the world in his prime) was third choice centre back at Porto when Jose arrived

@rohithraman6488

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@@robertdennehy7948 Porto were 5th in the Portuguese league when Jose came

People saying fergi was the best because he built up united but shankly brought up liverpool from a lower division to becoming a team that was feared for years winning trophys domestically and European and also left a succession team for paisley to take over and still dominate where fergi and wenger didn't leave a good team for his successor

I'm 58 from Hammersmith and Chelsea FC... credit to Ferguson definitely the best EVER football manager (it hurts to admit) but proud I've Scottish parents!!!😎😎😎😎😄

Wenger will always be #1

Ferguson is the greater manager for sure. His work at both Aberdeen and Man Utd over 35 years or so, with him continually adapting to new and and rapidly changing football landscapes, and delivering trophy after trophy was incredible. I still rank Mourinho’s managerial career as greater than Guardiola’s as well, largely thanks to his work in Portugal with Leiria and Porto. Overall, Guardiola’s entire footballing career has been better than Ferguson’s though. A hugely successful and trophy laden playing career followed by a hugely successful and trophy laden managerial career, beats no major silverware as a player followed by a legendary managerial career. Guardiola reached the pinnacle of club football in terms of winning shed loads of league titles plus multiple European trophies, as both a player and a manager.

@dudebro3250

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Big Sam taught Ferguson a lot when football evolved.

@neutralfan..1627

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@@dudebro3250 😃😃😃😃😃

@satanic6043

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Greater manager but just in the premier league for now, out of England is no one.

@Gizo02

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@@satanic6043 also in Scotland breaking up the Old Firm’s dominance, winning 3 league titles and numerous domestic cups, plus notably winning a major European trophy beating Bayern in the quarters and Real Madrid in the final (the last time Real have lost a major European final excluding Super Cups).

@satanic6043

Жыл бұрын

@@Gizo02 Real Madrid never lost a final in a UCL, check it better. You think premier league was at same level of La Liga and Serie A then clearly you are so young or you just are a blind person that never saw other leagues.

In terms of Premier League managers, Fergie is a clear 1st and the Second Best is between Pep, Klopp, Mourinho, Wenger and Anchelotti.

Souness: I come back to it

fergie and wenger two of the besf for me fergie the all time best pep is good but he's had unlimited money at his disposal so i found it hard to accept him as an great klopp is better tbh

Hard to truly say. Different times (number of competitive teams, money etc). Pep has a system that requires specific players, he hasn't coached the players he had into being effective with that system. He buys them. Foden is the only youth player of any notoriety from their academy recently. But comparatively, fergie did develop some players (although he did spend boatloads).

@CheyTacHD

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city have lots of youth players wdym looool. they have like 5 rising stars. city won every PL title age group last year... Pep does make players better through coaching you crazy

@smallarmskepa4390

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Casual

@neutralfan..1627

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@@CheyTacHD he don't promote homegrown within though.. Utd have a DNA of that and have done in decades..

@danial968

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@@neutralfan..1627 and they are bottom of the league with this idiotic DNA...cant expect a team to compete for all trophies with youth player all over the pitch

@neutralfan..1627

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@@danial968 Worked for fergie lad..

If Artetta wins the league with Arsenal, that would be a bigger achievement than anything Pepe ever done.

Didn't win FAcup in 84 Simon but won it both years either side of that year. Also people talk too much about Ferguson not winning anything with ManUtd until his 3rd full season but there were a few hindrances back then that they don't have now. The 5 year European ban for English teams from 1985/86 to 1989/90 which not only effected being in competitions to win silverware but it would've effected who teams could buy especially foreign players aren't going to be as attracted to playing in England if they're banned from European competitions so ManUtd would've had weaker squads than they could've had therefore they would've had better chance for silverware in all the years they didn't win anything before his first trophy in 1989/90. First year the European ban is ended, Ferguson wins CupWinnersCup 1990/91. You couldn't qualify for CL finishing 2nd out of 22 where as nowadays you can if you finish 4th out of 20 or worse than 4th but win EuropaLeague. Plus just being in the CL these days (or since the "CL" era) not even winning anything gives clubs loads of money and attracts big players. There are clearly more avenues to get success these days so I can never understand when people come out with comments like this manager wasn't given enough time and try to compare it to the era where Ferguson started managing ManUtd.

In time whan peps finshes his time at city people appricate what a great man manager and don't forget a fantastic coach which Ferguson was never So as far as long lasting legacy definitely peps the man

Mourinho for me ,he has won cups with different clubs ,been fired by Chelsea only to return and win the league again! outside England he has won everywhere -Mou greatest of all time -really special

Arsene changed the standard tho. From set piece ferguson football to playing thru the middle. Fergi was successful but served up rubbish for many years

@jmckeev765

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ferguson is not bad to be fair. i've just looked up his achievements

@willhitchcock6227

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@@jmckeev765 haha

Fergie may if not left much for the new manager to work with in terms of building for the future but maybe he tried and maybe that’s why he retired earlier than he intended! The glazers were not backing fergie either he wanted benzema and instead got Owen!

Got to be Ferguson. He did it with his hands tied behind his back. Pep has had unlimited finances throughout his career

@samuelkoomson6017

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Really?

Oh come on!! It’s Ferguson hands down.

Pep needs to spend large amount of money. He'd be a different manager if he went to a team with no money. His tactics are designed for elite players, if he doesn't have an elite squad he would struggle. Look at his 1st season. He spent over 100m on wingbacks to get to his tactics level.

@charlesanthonywalker2237

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Liverpool have elite player and spend close to 100m rn but can't get it right. You can have all the elite players but if they can't play together as a team i.e. PSG. IF you give Pep the right players he will take the team to another level

Jordan's ring...... showing that bling bling!😅🤣

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@lfcspectre4335

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Eat Sleep Repeat Sammy Beck = Top LAD Proper Clobber ✊

@sammybeck4855

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@@lfcspectre4335 LFC Spectre = Top LAD Proper Clobber

Guardiola by far and undisputedly class and better than fergurson. No trophy that fergy got that guardiola hasn't. And looking at trophies per season guardiola excels

@philbarton2832

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The question is "who's the greatest prem manager". Pep isn't even the second best

@cosmiconflict

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@@philbarton2832 using what statistics? Who has ever won three epl in a row. Who has won 4 out of five premier leagues?

@philbarton2832

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@@cosmiconflict Peps only had one team to challenge him in Liverpool, SAF had Blackburn, Newcastle, Liverpool, chelsea, AND city. SAF won the treble...with his youth players! 😂 Pep has the backing of a STATE and fails to win the champions league season after season after season. It's laughable to even compare the two 🙈

@cosmiconflict

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@@philbarton2832 your argument is not reasonable. In those years arsenal won without a defeat. Do you think the game is going backwards or forward? Guardiola has actually changed and dominated the bar in epl. Its not his problem that his quality is far above others. Its ridiculous from u to think the teams then were more competitive than it is now or that football was better then than now. Quite pathetic from football perspective in epl. Physicality and technically epl has been on an increasing trend notdownward

@philbarton2832

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@@cosmiconflict Yes and SAF beat them all the most. I'm talking about title challengers, pep is only challenged by Liverpool whereas SAF had many challengers and more often than not he beat them all. The game has moved forwards in some aspects but gone backwards in others and unfortunately business models like city's, chelseas, PSG'S etc are ruining the entire landscape of football. Pep has even said himself that SAF is the greatest ever so the debate is over. Now who knows, maybe pep will be the greatest prem manager someday but I doubt it because he's likely to move elsewhere sooner rather than later as he always does.

Guardiola's got loads to do to equal Ferguson. Guardiola hasn't won CL since managing best ever club team over a decade ago and I can't get over some of his glaring mistakes like starting Sterling vs Chelsea in CL final 2021 (and FAcup semi-final).

Fergie , kenny daglish , claudio raneri , Man Utd fan but lecister title win was great for the league and football ,