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@jarrel7051

Жыл бұрын

Love the Tudor Pepsi GMT

@cosmosokpighe4962

Жыл бұрын

Weldone guys for your contributions. Here's my take. Eras, times, reputations are a factor here. I honestly respect what Ferguson has done at Man Utd. But let's be honest here... Would World football today, give Pep Guardiola as much time as Fergie back in the day?? As Klopp and the likes. Pep has built this reputation that he's seen as an instant solution, he's expected to have instant result. Pep in his first season at City was trophyless for the first and only time in his career...he was roasted. Do you know what would have happened if Pep went trophyless for a 2nd season? He'd have been sacked. Now Sir Alex for Man Utd was trophyless for the first 5 seasons, but he was building gradually. No one was worried, not much was expected from him. And that's the difference. Same with Klopp at Liverpool. Klopp was trophyless at Liverpool for about 4 seasons, no pressure whatsover on him. But for Pep, for some reason, he's different, so much is expected of him. He's not won the CL yet for City at his 7th time of asking and the pressure on him is much. Alex Ferguson, it took him 13 years to win his first UCL trophy for Man Utd. He didn't have as much pressure as Pep is having to deal with today. So here's the point. Can Pep build a team from scratch...Absolutely yes. Would he be allowed, given time to build a team like others....I don't think so. Hence, he always has to use money to get instant hits because he's expected to have instant results. This is one major difference between Pep and Ferguson. This is due to the fact that Pep became an instant hit at Barca and that reputation stuck with him till this day. Ferguson has also managed bigger players than Pep has in the EPL. How many players under Pep, aside Aguero, Silva,Kdb,Kompany would walk into the treble winning Man Utd team of 1999 or Man Utd team of 2007-09 or Cheslea team of 2004-2007 or Arsenal's invincibles??

The way Culture Cams talks about past Man Utd teams I wonder whether he actually watched them

According to Pinero Pep has the ability to make players believe they're actually better than they are. Fergie won the league with Cleverly and Anderson in midfield.

@treyyg-rt5kz

Жыл бұрын

Fergie won it in a weak era where VAR didn’t exist

@liamfred9011

Жыл бұрын

No he didn't. Those were bench players

@Warrya

Жыл бұрын

@kubensamuiuel5176 No Var wasn’t an advantage though because it goes both ways. this was far from a weak era. You might bring up the fact that city and Liverpool get more points, but you gotta realize that players today are better conditioned and recover quicker because of advancement of technology. Another thing is that pep has had an open checkbook at city while sir Alex picked us up from dust and made us the best.

@brianchaks4838

Жыл бұрын

Braa pep won the league two times without a striker

@Warrya

Жыл бұрын

@@brianchaks4838 they used Jesus in the false 9 role. Don’t act like it’s a crazy feat when they have de bryne, gundugan and Bernardo Silva who can score goals and obviously the attackers. When all you’re midfielders are capable of scoring goals you don’t need a striker

For Sir Alex Ferguson I would say what he did with a team like Aberdeen to win them the European cup winners cup against Real Madrid in the final, also winning against Bayern Munich on the road to that final, was something special for Sir Alex Ferguson's Manager legacy. Also in that final, that was the last time that Real Madrid lost an European Final. Also Aberdeen won against Hamburger SV in the European super cup, and Hamburger SV were the reigning European champions in the European cup i think. Would pep be able to be successful with a team like that? Im just curious, although im a city and barca fan , which i guess is kinda weird and biased maybe, but i become mostly fan of those teams because of Aguero and messi obviously. Barca because of pep, and city before pep because of the beginning of citys success

@amorphous7474

Жыл бұрын

Are you sure you're supporting City not because of Haaland?

@fredrikdahl1230

Жыл бұрын

@@amorphous7474 could be a possibility yes😂 , but i did follow city since 2016/17 ish so its not only because of haaland . Obviously its great that Haaland play for city now, but i have been a city fan since the Aguero pre pep days👍😊

@treyyg-rt5kz

Жыл бұрын

Fergie was overrated he won trophies in a very weak era, with Aberdeen he won the modern day UEFA super cup which has no value, your making it sound like he won the champions league 😂

@fredrikdahl1230

Жыл бұрын

@@treyyg-rt5kz he won the champions league twice didnt he?? Either way , im just praising SAF because Ferguson is one of the best managers of all time if not the best. So i dont see why thats weird imo.😂😊👍🤷🏻

@nlizzy9071

Жыл бұрын

U started supporting City juss before Pep came ur not a proper City fan looool😂😂😂😂

Already know this is a banger!!!

Awesome and rational discussion!

The tactical influence that Pep has brought in football and in the 3 leagues he's coached is much greater than Ferguson. Now, before idiots come and talk about money or "oil money", may I remind them that Man utd alongside Cheslea have spent more than City over the last 15-20 years. Pep beat Feeguson twice in the CL. Again before idiots come and say it's because Pep had xavi, inesta, messi, busquets, let me remind them that Ferguson had a stacked up team as well. A young CR7, Giggs, Scoles, Rio Ferdinand, Evra, Prime Nani etc. People talk as if Ferguson had sunday league football players.

@honestmanutdfan603

Жыл бұрын

sir alex is clear plus one word ABERDEEN pep inherited those players at barca sir alex bought and formed his and sir alex only spent about less than 400 mil in his career and even with inflation is less than city plus fergie did have pretty much sunday league players when he inherited united and at st mirren and aberdeen

@nahuelsamba2947

Жыл бұрын

@@honestmanutdfan603 Pep literally promoted 1/3 of the squad such as the likes of Busquets and Pedro! He bought Dani Alves and some other players who he developed to a different level. Iniesta, Xavi and Messi were obviously amazingly talented but he took them to a different level. Don’t undermine what he done looool he cooked Fergie twice🫣

@madtitan-bringerofgenocide

Жыл бұрын

​@@nahuelsamba2947 united fans are deluded asf..

@madtitan-bringerofgenocide

Жыл бұрын

​@@nahuelsamba2947 Guardiola would school fergie every single time and every Evra.

@funnyclips957

Жыл бұрын

The day pep takes a team of academy players builds them and wins treble with them just like saf thats when pep would be best in my opinion

For their influence in coaching….Pep the goat For their influence in FOOTBALL…SAF

@MCFCTheMadHatter

Жыл бұрын

How do you define influence in football? Does Fergie have any disciples who are coaches now spreading Fergie philosophy in other leagues and teams? Pep has several manager including ETH who are of the Pep philosophy and now you have football being played from the back in England from the PL all the way down to the non-professional tiers of football as well as in other leagues. How is that not influencing the football world? Make no mistake, i have a tremendous amount of respect for SAF. Im not saying that Pep is over SAF, but I'd say theyre pretty much on par with one another but for different reasons

@treyyg-rt5kz

Жыл бұрын

@@MCFCTheMadHatter pep has always been better and proved that when he won against a prime fergie team in CL

@madtitan-bringerofgenocide

Жыл бұрын

​@@MCFCTheMadHatter Xavi, Alonso, arteta, eth, nagelsman 😂😂😂 fergie ex players are pundits, enough said !

@MCFCTheMadHatter

Жыл бұрын

@@madtitan-bringerofgenocide 👍👍

@treyyg-rt5kz

Жыл бұрын

@@jwhy3m ole won in irrelevant games and lost against him when it mattered like fa cup/efl cup etc

Manager is different from coatch Sir Alex was running the club from top to bottom not only 1st team ....he inherited Mid table team he has to reset the whole club culture ......while pep through his career joined 3 fully function organizations Barca, Bayern, City and inherited a winning team body(frame) as in Barca Champions league winner 2006 ,Bayern 2 years in row finalist 2012 and winner 2013 , in City Aguero ,debrune ,silva ,company,fernandinho what Sir Alex did in Manutd will not happen again in modern day football .

@amino2311

Жыл бұрын

So Pep doesn’t run the club ? Lol what am I reading here… Pep 98-100 points, vs Klopp, spanking Ancelotti, spanking Sir Alex in his rookie year winning the champions league Stop all these « he didn’t take a mid table team » thing it’s just irrelevant, United had all the better players and more money than anyone ! Pep played with your favorite manager stop it

@ADproperties

Жыл бұрын

@@amino2311 no pep doesn't run city, didn't run bayern for sure or barca

@joyboy79512

Жыл бұрын

Fergie at the time did great in building up Utd from what they were. But that was football then. That cannot happen now. Managers have to step away and allow the club setup to function. Football has evolved. there are too many moving parts for one man to wrangle everything according to how he or she likes it. Thats why coaches of the old order like Mou and Conte find it hard to survive at clubs since they want to runt the club the way they want

@irinnav5301

2 ай бұрын

@@amino2311 Pep has laboratory conditions in City, he doesn't run them. That club has the best organization by far in all areas. And the rules for them are different since they can bend them. No one has ever had such working conditions as Pep in City.

Elite stuff

I think in terms of straight up football manager, tactician, formations, making players better, Pep is clear. But in terms of man manager, galvanising an entire club from top to bottom, bringing through youth, continually refreshing the squad, Sir Alex is clear. It's such a hard one, but United aren't the club they are now without Sir Alex, they were not really anybody special before him, Liverpool and Tottenham dominated the 80's and 60's/70's respectively. I love Pep but with the money they have, tv rights money these days, director infrastructure clubs have now, disparity between clubs in the league, I could see an argument that there's some other coaches that could have won City some decent trophies, definitely not as many but some.

When Joel is not the one with the maddest takes you know it's crazy. Pinero outdid him.

Harry kli love u so much your fan from North Africa 💙

@BoyKnowsBall

Жыл бұрын

Masr?

@dotshaly2908

Жыл бұрын

@@BoyKnowsBall libya

@HarryPineroTV

Жыл бұрын

Appreciate the love!

Lois Openda in United kit looks good , he know ball.

Fair points all around. Yes pep has got the coaching sussed out however football styles etc are subjective.. possession is great but u gota win. It took pep 12 yrs to assemble this team with over 800m spent to win what hes almost going to win. At Bayern was it a success? The previous manager won a treble there, Pep couldnt win the ucl even tho he had top superstars such as robben ribery etc. hes a great and will always be top 3 but u cant discount that fergie won the league with players that wouldnt get a sniff at top clubs elsewhere. I wana see pep win something with a lesser team then il fully rate him. Jose done it fergie done even ancelotti winning the ucl last year with two midfielders that are nearly 40. Thats elite imo.

Ferguson only did it in England, Pep has done it in Spain, Germany and now England. You still see evidence of his influence in Spain and Germany to this day. He has influence European football as we know it. Football can be broken down into Pre and Post Pep. And on top of all that he was a great player and help changed the game under Cruyff

@Sosavibes

Жыл бұрын

Lol , fergie won in Scotland so nice try mate .

@shyone8386

Жыл бұрын

@@Sosavibes that's not professional football

@manunited1235

10 ай бұрын

@@shyone8386of course it’s professional football? So beating Real Madrid in a European final is not professional football? Lmao dumbest thing I’ve heard all day. Well done 👏

I think it’s impossible to compare, 2 very different scenarios. I’m sure pep would have had similar success with that United team just as I’m sure fergie would have similar success with this city team

08/09 united team was also a dominate team, United front 3 can break city defense and Rio and vidic can keep Haaland quite

@treyyg-rt5kz

Жыл бұрын

The same united team that lost against pep team twice in CL 😂

@TheToohey10

Жыл бұрын

@@treyyg-rt5kz That Barca team is the best of all time, this City team isn’t at that same level. That’s why United could beat it

@madtitan-bringerofgenocide

Жыл бұрын

​@@TheToohey10 it's Guardiola football, kid. City would batter that united team. They won the champions league team, bcoz Terry slipped 😂😂😂😂

@treyyg-rt5kz

Жыл бұрын

@@madtitan-bringerofgenocide fergie was lucky that terry missed his penalty as Chelsea dominated that game

People go on about united always spent the most etc, since start of the prem. 30+ years united spent the most in 5 of those seasons. Fergie left with a positive net spend. That’s insane

Pep needs to go to a top team that are currently struggling and turn them into winners for me to even debate him being the greatest. United would be the perfect club for that, but its never gonna happen. Maybe Juventus or AC Milan. If he goes to a club like that and wins the Champions League or dominates like he has done with Barcelona, Bayern and City, then it's a much more plausible argument

Pep is a better tactician than Fergie but pep has never given a player as bad as anderson, gibson, cleverly or as average as brown, fletcher, evans, o'shea titles upon titles like Fergie. One of the worst players pep ever managed that got decent game time is cristian tello and even he isn't that bad and is probably a level above most of the players previously mentioned.

For me the Barca 2009 team is the best I've seen. We had arguably the best team in Man Utd's history and they gave us a footballing lesson. Our 2011 team was not as good.

this team is too insane, they are the best team ever.

@em8969

Жыл бұрын

Barcelona 2011.

@TJTOPBOY

Жыл бұрын

Nah the Barcelona team is above them.

@CultureCams

Жыл бұрын

Ever? Big shout

@honestmanutdfan603

Жыл бұрын

how old are you lol

@wmich1

Жыл бұрын

Barca is so clear and its not close and whole time Fergie had Vidic Ferdinand Van Der Sar Giggs Park Ji Sung Rooney Ronaldo Scholes Berbatov Evra lol he had an insane team as well

Weldone guys for your contributions. Here's my take. Eras, times, reputations are a factor here. I honestly respect what Ferguson has done at Man Utd. But let's be honest here... Would World football today, give Pep Guardiola as much time as Fergie back in the day?? As Klopp and the likes. Pep has built this reputation that he's seen as an instant solution, he's expected to have instant result. Pep in his first season at City was trophyless for the first and only time in his career...he was roasted. Do you know what would have happened if Pep went trophyless for a 2nd season? He'd have been sacked. Now Sir Alex for Man Utd was trophyless for the first 5 seasons, but he was building gradually. No one was worried, not much was expected from him. And that's the difference. Same with Klopp at Liverpool. Klopp was trophyless at Liverpool for about 4 seasons, no pressure whatsover on him. But for Pep, for some reason, he's different, so much is expected of him. He's not won the CL yet for City at his 7th time of asking and the pressure on him is much. Alex Ferguson, it took him 13 years to win his first UCL trophy for Man Utd. He didn't have as much pressure as Pep is having to deal with today. So here's the point. Can Pep build a team from scratch...Absolutely yes. Would he be allowed, given time to build a team like others....I don't think so. Hence, he always has to use money to get instant hits because he's expected to have instant results. This is one major difference between Pep and Ferguson. This is due to the fact that Pep became an instant hit at Barca and that reputation stuck with him till this day. Ferguson has also managed bigger players than Pep has in the EPL. How many players under Pep, aside Aguero, Silva,Kdb,Kompany would walk into the treble winning Man Utd team of 1999 or Man Utd team of 2007-09 or Cheslea team of 2004-2007 or Arsenal's invincibles??

@ahmadfauzi5757

Жыл бұрын

Good take on this argument.. Wish more people read what you comment here

De zerbi’s Brighton had more possession than city at the etihad this season

@Ashley_MG

Жыл бұрын

So?

using the 2x ucl final loss Fergie had against Pep’s Barca as the argument for why the City team would win vs Man Utd 07/08 team ain’t right. Barca had the goat, this City team doesn’t have anyone like that and we’ve seen Pep’s city lose to some questionable teams in the ucl. That Wazza-CR7-Tevez trio was crazy. Pep’s city can get transitioned on even tho the rest defence adjustment by Pep this season makes it harder. But we got guys with individual magic that systems can’t control. What’s Pep’s system gonna do vs a Ronnie rocket? Rooney volley, Tevez & Scholes long shot?

@treyyg-rt5kz

Жыл бұрын

Fergie was overrated Manager and was clueless in the CL, got lucky wins against Chelsea which went to penalties and a lucky win in extra time against Bayern Munich, without the luck on his side he would have won zero CL

@velianfc

Жыл бұрын

@@treyyg-rt5kz and Pep hasn’t won a UCL without the goat and hasn’t been able to win league titles without money? It’s easy to play this game

@madtitan-bringerofgenocide

Жыл бұрын

​@@velianfc kid, Chelsea and united have spend more than city, so why are they not wining 😂😂

@treyyg-rt5kz

Жыл бұрын

@@velianfc fergie was overrated manager, a modern day solksjser is same as him

@velianfc

Жыл бұрын

@@madtitan-bringerofgenocide coz of City’s higher ups, they run the club well. But every top coach spends money because they’re trusted, what that guy said about fergie being lucky is stupid.

You man don’t you know that football has changed and evolved. You can’t compare eras like that.

you give SAF or any top manager like Klopp etc the same resources Pep has received during his man city tenure, would be surprised if they wouldn't achieve the same, if not better than what Pep has currently done.

@newrecruit100

Жыл бұрын

What? Are we seriously gonna pretend that United were deprived of resources during his time?

@amorphous7474

Жыл бұрын

SAF got resources. He broke the British transfer record twice.

@Prime1Wunna

Жыл бұрын

No you wouldn’t because mouhrino got backed by United n Chelsea n got sacked after 3 years in each time😕

Man left filthy and started his own ting 😂 the games nasty

@Allwin-lz6yj

Жыл бұрын

Don’t hate the player hate the game

@brafuptop9786

Жыл бұрын

@@Allwin-lz6yj for real 🤣

You man are HIGH!

This CAM guy is a typical Hipster fan. Its like Possession is the best thing ever, and nothing else matters. Its how you look at a game and how you enjoy your team play. Recency bias is massive in such debate, obviously you would remember what happen a year ago than a decade ago. Asterisk Future Treble Champions incoming....lol

Someone who can win a league with cleverley and Anderson playing majority of games is a genius 😂

Pep is more of a revolutionary coach he’s influenced the way the game is played today n that I can’t deny even as a United fan✅✅but that doesn’t mean he’s the best gaffer ever Fergie has done things with certain players Pep would never ever be able to do🤷🏾‍♂🤷🏾‍♂every club Pep has walked into has literally had its foundations set n ready for him to come in n take over whereas Fergie walked into a United in an absolute mess n made them the biggest club in the country n one of the biggest in the world😅😅also no team would come anywhere near beating that Barca team of 10-11 season that’s the best club side the game has ever seen I don’t wanna hear anything else😪😪

HP with thaaa Sauceee £££

Simple: Football peaked at wembley 2011 and Pep is the best coach ever. Whoever denies this is a casual.

Joel’s arguments are the reason and reflection of Arsenal not winning titles. Manchester United have won titles for their sheer grit and determination. Pep is an exceptional amazing manager who can win games and win it beautifully, but even in his best season, they could not win the Champions League so far.

Pep

PEP EATS GOATS 🐐

forget barca 10/11, MSN 14/15 would wash this team. can you imagine prime messi playing as a winger and dani alves vs akanji, andd that counter attack? lord have mercy

@thestallion5513

Жыл бұрын

Jesus christ u want city to die?? lol

Could pep win the champions league with Aberdeen with no money

You cannot compare

@CultureCams

Жыл бұрын

Why?👀

The 2008 manu team was crazy we would beat city

SAF the goat for now, but if pep wins that treble it’s done. And regardless, I think pep will be the goat by the end of his career tbh

@youwhat5058

Жыл бұрын

Fergie could win the league with shit players, Fergie won the treble with the class of 92, homegrown talent, Fergie will always be the goat.

@HarryPineroTV

Жыл бұрын

Pep could have a longer career as well, but i agree SAF is the GOAT for now!

@tdzzzzzzzzzz.22

Жыл бұрын

@@youwhat5058 Pep did a season at Barcelona B and had them top of the league and promoted playing beautiful football having been relegated the previous season with a disintegrating squad, and brought busquets up from the academy. He then instantly got the job as Barcelona, promoting Busquets from the Bs and selling high profile players like Ronaldinho and Deco. He used more la Masia talent- even bringing back pique from united who he did wonders with compared to SAF, winning the Copa Del Rey, La Liga and the UCL (beating SAF in the final) turning messi from already a joke to the best player in the world by a mile. He elevated all the homegrown talents game including all time greats like Xavi and Iniesta. That homegrown argument just isn’t all that, and the simple situation is that Pep Guardiola was so good so quick that he never really had to manage any ‘bad’ teams. I understand SAF did more with lesser teams but it’s quite easy to say that when Pep has never really had to manage lesser teams. And if we’re being honest, Pep has a better record than SAF across his career. Having broken almost all the important records in all the countries he managed in (including some of SAF’s) and potentially on the brink of SAF’s infamous treble, it will be quite hard to still say SAF by the end of Peps career as we would expect him to continue at this rate.

Both are legends but I need to give to the man who done it in more clubs

Easy answer = Pep Guardiola

Pep is the greatest coach ever I would say with how his teams play but I feel he needs specific players and teams whereas fergie I could see him manage any team and build up a great team even from individuals who are not highly gifted

@elericgb

10 ай бұрын

sir alex ferguson left the chat

These lot forgot the Real Madrid team who won the champions league three times in a row

Ferguson rip

The Bayern stint shouldn’t be tax for pep… he came after the previous manager won a treble, that is not easy feat as such much people wanna say he should’ve won it. The standard set was literally the top and everyone knows how difficult it is. It’s like haaland not winning POTY because he joined a winning team and didn’t elevate them because they won the league and scored as many goals without him But that’s just my take Pep is the 🐐

Pep is a silver spoon manager

But remember, Ferguson built a team from ground up while Pep came to meet a winning team. Also manutd, many times and over and over again, always found a way to win. Also, did you city this season against the teams that beat them. They can be beaten and in a one off game, feige can def do it

@caseymjada2011

Жыл бұрын

This is such a casual take lol. Pep arrived to a club that was in the top 5 oldest squad in all of Europe and there's a reason why he went trophyless in his first season

@mamodeogbewele3376

Жыл бұрын

@@caseymjada2011 did he change everyone by the next season?

@caseymjada2011

Жыл бұрын

@@mamodeogbewele3376 what you mean by that?

@mamodeogbewele3376

Жыл бұрын

It's a simple question. You said there was a reason he went trophyless in his first season and was in top 5 oldest squads.. so did he get rid of all those old players or a good number of them, were in the squad when he won his first league title? 💁🏿‍♂️

@caseymjada2011

Жыл бұрын

@@mamodeogbewele3376 yeah he got rid of a few players. The club needed a rebuild and that's what he did

sir alex ferguson the goat

Let’s be real if peps coneboy nearly won the league, if pep wanted to he could easily do a process with a club that has less resources than City and eventually get them popping. But why should he have to? It’s like saying messi was only great for Barca - silly debate. Pep is the greatest.

@Fred-ft6vh

Жыл бұрын

SAF is the goat and I'll even put Jose Mourinho higher than Pep. SAF dominated the EPL, built up a team from the ground up and made Man UTD a European powerhouse. His Aberdeen is as impressive as he broke the Scottish duopoly and won a European beating Real Madrid . Pep literally went from prime Barca, Bayern and then to City, spending more than a billion and still haven't won a UCL(hopefully) since his Barca days.

@FatTodd

Жыл бұрын

@@Fred-ft6vh man united beat rjikaards Barca who won the ucl in 06, the following year pep took over and I’m sure you know the rest

@Sproles11

Жыл бұрын

A really good point tbh. Arteta and Kompany have proved that this stuff works at different levels of investment. And they’d tell you they have a while to go to reach his level

Both are not better than the special one 🤣🤣🤣

Why bring a biased arsenal fan for this discussion, trying to dispute ronaldo wasnt close to his prime in that united team, when he scored 42 goals and won a balon d or 😂

Jose Inter getting washed!!!😂😂 No way You must've forgotten who they were

Evra said kids born after ps5 think city is the best team ever...these are the kids😂😂😂

SAF

Guardiola's 15 years of silverware with Ready Made Teams should NEVER be remotely compared to over 30 years of Sir Alex building teams up from scratch and rebuilding them.

@aphindiletyeni5724

Жыл бұрын

"Ready made"😂😂. Barca was in shambles when Pep took over, hadn't won a trophy in 3 years. Messi wasn't the beast he became under Pep, of the team he had that defeated Man United in 2009, only 4 players were bought and the rest were academy players. Took over an aging Bayern Munich club. Check the Man City team he inherited and the changes he had to do with the squad he has now. This man won the Premier league without a striker!

@raymondbutler834

Жыл бұрын

@@aphindiletyeni5724 Yes, Barca had Prime Xavi, Iniesta and Messi plus additional superstars when he first took over Barcelona and most managers would have succeeded with that amazing squad. Pep Failed at Bayern because he couldn't win them the Champions League in 3 years even though he inherited the European Champions in 2013. At City, Pep inherited a strong squad containing Vincent Kompany, Yaya Toure, David Silva, Raheem Sterling, Kevin De Bruyne and Sergio Augero.

@aphindiletyeni5724

Жыл бұрын

@@raymondbutler834 Nah Mate the Barca players you're mentioning were not in their prime when Pep took over, he made them world class. Listen to the interviews of Xavi, Iniesta. And most managers wouldn't because Real Madrid was dominant and spending more money than Pep but he managed to win the 3 peat on a lesser budget. It was an aging squad though and the players there weren't "Pep Guardiola" players even Sir Alex Ferguson wouldn't have won the Champions league and on that we don't talk enough about how Sir Alex Ferguson's tenure at Manchester United was a failure, man spent 26 years to only win the Champions league 2 times. At any other team he would have been sacked

@aphindiletyeni5724

Жыл бұрын

@@raymondbutler834 Pep's inability not to win the Champions league with Bayern Munich is understandable because he had to adapt to a new country league, bring in players who could play his football so he had to make changes and face Bayern Munich hierarchy in terms of recruitment etc. Ferguson had everything Pep didn't have at Barva and Bayern but won 2 Champions league in more than 2 decades at United

@raymondbutler834

Жыл бұрын

@@aphindiletyeni5724 How many Champions Leagues did Paris St. Germain after all them billions spent on their club? How many Champions Leagues did Arsene Wenger win at Arsenal for over 20 years even including their invincible team? How about Antonio Conte? he's managed Juve, Inter and Chelsea yet 0 Champions Leagues to show for it. Sure, Man City are about to win the Champions League which has to be said is long overdue after all them billions spent since becoming Abu Dhabi FC 15 years ago. Fergie's Miracles worked at Aberdeen will always be superior to whatever Pep achieves at City.

Fergie was overrated and even mourinho proved that when he won with a weak Porto team against a prime fergie team in CL

ALLAHU AKBAR ☝️

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Jose Mourinho is better than Pep and SAF matter of fact even Carlo Ancelotti despite his tactical error against Man City in the 2nd leg.

@sambirtwistle7615

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I agree he's better than pep but no SAF

@ineverswag

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@@sambirtwistle7615 how's he better than Pep?

Joel really said pep is better than SIR ALEX this is why arsenal fans bet bantered people like Joel put a bad name on arsenal fans

@100worthofkay6

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But he is though

@MineralsUnited

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@@100worthofkay6 ur just deluded then

@100worthofkay6

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@@MineralsUnited he's made the best two football teams in history. That Barca team and this City team. You're just a bias deluded United fan

@MineralsUnited

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@@100worthofkay6 and what are u a Arsenal fan that hasn’t won a league title in 20 years

Pep is behind Sir Alex, Ancelotti and Klopp..the day I see Pep win with a Cleverley in his midfield then we will re-assess.

It took majority of united fans time to admit messi is better than ronny, sure they’ll come around eventually.

@Fred-ft6vh

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Both Man City and Liverpool still agree that SAF is the GOAT... Stop being delusional 😂😂

@FatTodd

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@@Fred-ft6vh Liverpool fans definitely don’t

Pep couldn't win it all with Aberdeen, think about how mad that is sir Alex is the greatest manager in the world, this is coming from a Liverpool fan, pep is good but it's actually not even close

@HarryPineroTV

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Interesting take!

@neynmarrrrr

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would Gordon Ramsey work at a 1 star restaurant despite being the best chef in the world ? thats literally the point your making why would pep go to a smaller club ? Jose never wanted to be at a small club he got sacked from every big club ?? SAF?? He started his career at Aberdeen and you can win a cup with luck not a league with luck

@alanmcgee7545

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@@neynmarrrrr Gordon Ramsay literally has a program where he goes to 1* restaurants to build them up 😅, luck is one thing but why then when he went to united he did it consistently after??? Luck I guess

@neynmarrrrr

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@@alanmcgee7545 thats for the show you idiot , you really brought that up he does that FOR MONEY because its entertainment for the viewers ?? he doesn't even work there? mans waffling now because he don't know what to say . Barcelona was broke af and he still made the greatest team to every play football. he did it with Both a broke team & a rich team(Man City) , he's not entitled to prove himself to jealous man united and Liverpool fans that he's the best by going to a small club. Aberdeen was amazing n all but he started there because no-one else would hire him? he was nobody ? who's gonna hire a nobody ? Pep on the other hand was the student of JOHAN CRUYFF he had connections. SAF would also do the same if he had connections. anyways football aint deep idk why I wrote al of this but regardless we all know Pep will go down as the GOAT manager

@ineverswag

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man won 6 titles in his first year as a manager why would he go to some mid table team thereafter? be real

This vid is so disrespectful

Peps doing bits but where’s the competition in Europe now? Back in 99-08 there were so many better teams The champions league has been dead for years now

Fergie won leagues with lesser quality of players Pep HAS to have the BEST footballers in his team to make his team work

Harry may Allah bless you, but please refrain from mocking the deen.

Sorry lads, Fergie won at Aberdeen and Jose won two trebles with no money at Porto and Inter… let alone what he is doing at Roma… Pep will never do that!

@H.L.S.98

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Exactly. Guardiola is obviously excellent, but my god he’s inherited some insane squads and had crazy budgets! I don’t think he could adjust and make a mediocre team great! His style of football requires the absolute elite talent! If he didn’t have elite players I wonder how he’d even coach! His methods require World class players. The other managers didn’t have that luxury at times ! And adjusted !

Pep is the best manager ever... spent 2.5B... 2 CL finals in 13 years... zero Wins without Messi... inherited Aguero, Vini, Yaya, Silva, Sterling... mfs think he invented football. Cheque book manager.

@Prime1Wunna

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Why shouldn’t the best spend money? He’s earned that right… let me know when a manager can win 6 trophies in his first year of management 👍🏾

sir alex

Lets just enjoy em🫣

Pep faced Fergie twice and left him with Parkinson's, that's all i wanna say

@vicstone8817

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😂😂😂😂

Yoyoyo

These lot forgot the Real Madrid team who won the champions league three times in a row