Danny Murphy looks like Brain from Pinky & The Brain 🧠 😅 🐁

@user-rx2hw8up2j

3 ай бұрын

Lol class comment

@jackjames3356

3 ай бұрын

minus the brain tho

@RyanGRyan1985

3 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@HN-zw5gp

3 ай бұрын

STEVEN GERRARD will be able to win the Champions League with the Funds and Players of Manchester City

@dimitrisnicolaou9789

3 ай бұрын

@@HN-zw5gp 😅

A Liverpool fan taking any chance he gets to have a pop at united😂 must be hard for him to admit SAF is the GOAT

@Lovelydropp

3 ай бұрын

He’s talking facts. Crazy how everyone on the planet can see it apart from United fans 😭

@ironheade22

3 ай бұрын

​@AsherAMB888Fat Paisley only had one job in his career and was given the best team and the most money in an era where nobody else even spent that much, not in the top 100 managers

@smaddison3854

3 ай бұрын

United ruined his adulthood

@anthonyburns8768

3 ай бұрын

Paisley had the trophies in the bag in 9 years done and dusted . fergie hung around for about 26 - 27 years probably because he desperately wanted to beat him .peps teams play better footie

@smaddison3854

3 ай бұрын

@AsherAMB888 Dan Murphy adulthood

United fan, Pep might be the most influential person in football history tbh. There has never been a person in football who has changed the way football is played in so many different countries at all levels. Theres teams in the Conference that play with split CB and inverted fullbacks. It's crazy.

@myleshigh4225

3 ай бұрын

You realise that he's just copying Johan Cruyff's style of play right?

@erniececil6668

3 ай бұрын

​@@myleshigh4225This guy gets it. Pep is world class but he invented nish.

@aru8302

3 ай бұрын

@@myleshigh4225with Johan Cruyff no one played his style, just Barcelona when he was the manager. With Pep, many clubs, managers etcc do it

@docholiday-lm4vf

3 ай бұрын

@my bob paisley was doing with with alan hansen in the 70s

@user-hp8hg2ix1b

3 ай бұрын

@@myleshigh4225 No he isn't. You guys should try and actually watch a few games from back then, and then read a few articles on the matter.

Simon Jordan always remembers the verdict of UEFA but somehow, forget about the ruling of CAS. Very convenient.

@Hoder_sa

3 ай бұрын

Check the story on how the CAS judges were selected maybe you'd understand Simon a bit better

@juliusoba6488

3 ай бұрын

@@Hoder_sa There’s always been a standard procedure for selecting judges by CAS many years before the City case. Any other story that says otherwise is a lie. Moreover, the CAS judgement is available to the public to read. More than 10 different occasions, the ruled that UEFA had no evidence to back their claims. You can believe Simon Jordan. But I would take CAS judgment as more credible.

@salfordnick5336

3 ай бұрын

City were found guilty and paid a £20m fine...only got off by cas because of the time element....face facts city are absolutely buggered

@Cyrus-rodn45

3 ай бұрын

It doesn't serve his narrative

@hustleup3840

3 ай бұрын

GUILTY

Only ever been in teams with an unlimited budget ....., Absolutely no contest

@GorillaGwenny

3 ай бұрын

Yeah because just spending a £1 billion means instant success right? That stupid argument was dead in 2016

@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings

3 ай бұрын

- Barca outspent by Real VARdrid - City outspent by Man Utd

@rrjgpl

3 ай бұрын

But Chelsea have not won trophies of late.

Pure facts. Pep's philosophy has changed the way football is played across the world. Fergie doesn't have that and the truth is he isn't rated that highly outside the UK. Pep is now a global icon. Utd fans will never admit it, but they can have no argument to it.

@leonhughes9014

3 ай бұрын

1. Alex Ferguson didnt have social media and still became a global icon... so you're wrong . and when united won the Champions league in the Nou Camp , British teams were way off the major players in Europe , so united winning then was way more of an achievement

@timeisontheessence

3 ай бұрын

​@@leonhughes9014fergie had no philosophy, he didnt change the game like Mourinho, Wenger and pep

@progressionsessions99

3 ай бұрын

correct Fergie by far is way more influential , pep had everything he wanted while Fergie didn't @@leonhughes9014

@antonioprice8081

3 ай бұрын

@@timeisontheessenceput that pipe down son it ain’t good for you

@fodaytarawali6613

3 ай бұрын

What.... Are you saying he's team had no DNA everyone knows the United lineup and how they played and still were on top.. they were not signing the best players in the world.. he turned the premier league into a one horse race that changed football and the premier league who cares about the outside.. a Sunday league team cannot play like city but they can play like Fergies Utd. Coaches are obsessed with peps style if you do not have the players is irrelevant. Van nistelrooy was best in Holland not the world Rio grew into the best, Veron left the Italian which were the best why?

Simon is so delusional and bitter it makes me happy 😅

@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings

3 ай бұрын

- City not a Legacy Club - Though they have 5tuple - Play silkiest Football - Only in City Haters World 😂

Pep is 100% better than fergie. From grassroots to the National team all try to play like Pep. Fergie was just a long to fast wingers to cross for their centre forwards

@cameronwilson1706

3 ай бұрын

Not true

@GaryMills-ku3rv

3 ай бұрын

@@cameronwilson1706 Take it you dont watch football at all levels than

@GorillaGwenny

3 ай бұрын

Baconface cheated more than 115 times with “Fergie time”, so all the reds can piss off with that Cheating bullshit

@jimmywalker8354

3 ай бұрын

Pep schooled Fergie twice.

@SuperHarl007

3 ай бұрын

​@@jimmywalker8354 Honestly Pep played beautiful football but without Messi he loses both times and you know it. People say Fergie was so lucky to have the class of 92 and maybe he was but so was Pep to be able to have those players like Inesta Xavi Ronaldinho all playing against the likes of Carrick Anderson and Scholes(the only one close to those guys I just mentioned) Fergie really was a beast of a manager winning the Epl with players you could swear ability wise Arsenal and Chelsea had better expecially in midfield he had Cleverly, Fletcher, Ji sung Park, Carrick and Anderson at a time when Chelsea and Arsenal had the likes of Fabregas, Lampard, Mikel-Obi, carvalho, Ramirez, Oscar, Arshavin, Rosicki, etc. Which team can you say have better midfielders than City rn? Which team can you say have better attackers than City rn? And the defence is Arguable those are the kinds of managers you're talking about one transforms the Average player into a specialist the other transforms world class players or close enough / Talents into specialists. Both were successful but the ability of Fergie to get these players punching above their weight class is amazing and yes fergie did have a few world class players himself.

They tend to overlook Ferguson breaking the old firm dominance and winning a European trophy with Aberdeen against Real Madrid before he even set foot in OT. Quite influential in itself that.

Simon need to get over his hate of city..the guy must have nightmares about man city every night.

@jonathankennedy1715

3 ай бұрын

Cause they cheaters 115+

keep the clips coming! absolutely loving the talk lately

@yowhaatsup

3 ай бұрын

Get a life

People act like Guardiola invented 1-2 passes.

Fergie is clear in the EPL, but Pep is definitely the more influential manager. The tiki-taka system that he popularized not only helped create one of the greatest, if not THE greatest, football team(Barca 08-12) ever but also changed the whole of Spanish football, having a direct hand in Spain winning the world cup and back to back European cups. While Fergie was a great manager, he did not have that level of influence. He was a master of the 442 system and it's variations, having established that as the leading formation of his era in the EPL. But Pep, despite walking into established sides, was revolutionary.

@samuelggg3801

3 ай бұрын

This is just a comment made to suit your narrative, it’s null and void. SAF was more than just a great 442 manager. Unbelievable lol 🤦‍♂️🤣

@ErinGoBraghGT7

3 ай бұрын

Fergie also played 3-5-2 and 4-3-3 when needed but yeah you tell yourself whatever makes you happy.

@duran9664

3 ай бұрын

🩸 I’m a Liverpool fan 🩸 & I can tell ya that Fergie’s left dirtiest shoe is billion times better than the mafia people of Pep & his brother🤢🤢🤮

@RealtalkManc

3 ай бұрын

Let’s see pep win a European cup with Aberdeen

@D1craigRob

3 ай бұрын

It made Spain play without a striker. And ruined football for me.

Does not matter what league you watch , you'll find a team trying to play like a Pep team. Same can't be said about Fergie. That means he is more influential.

@ravd8082

3 ай бұрын

will pep stay if man city found guilty of FFP ? if most his players left can he build a winning team again ?

@bigwengz914

3 ай бұрын

But Pep learned from Cruyff.

@barryryan1070

3 ай бұрын

"A Pep team"? Don't allow the media to infiltrate your mind. Playing out from the back, inverted full backs, false 9 etc etc, have been prevalent in the game for a long time now, they just didn't have names like they do now. Go back and watch footage of how Ajax played, total football. Go back and watch footage of how Frank Rijkaard's Barcelona played. Go back and watch how even Arsenal's invincible team played and how players moved off the ball, constantly interchanging. The Pep love in by the media needs to stop. Yes he's a great manager, but lets not try and make out the guy created good football, because he didn't.

@drogbachels11

3 ай бұрын

Yes it's indeed hard to find another team that gets penalties in 90+ minute whenever they need one.

@Lovelydropp

3 ай бұрын

@@ravd8082he’s built the team 3 times over. Built a team in barca and built a team in Bayern. What an uneducated comment

City success is destroying rivals to the bone . Pep is a genius

Pep did not initiate Total Futbal .

@erniececil6668

3 ай бұрын

Cruyff surely? I could be wrong...

@DC-zi6se

3 ай бұрын

@@erniececil6668 Total Football was started in the 1970s by Rinus Michels. He amalgamated the pre-existing ideas from the 1950s Hungarian team and Jack Reynolds and formalized it to what we know of it today.

@duran9664

3 ай бұрын

🩸 I’m a Liverpool fan 🩸 & I can tell ya that Fergie’s left dirtiest shoe is billion times better than the mafia people of Pep & his brother🤢🤢🤮

@rrjgpl

3 ай бұрын

True, but he adapts to his opposition in a way that Cruyff has not done.

define influence - Pep & Klopp have changed how football is played in most clubs in the Premier League, it's often either play from back, or press high up ; In recent years Pep started the inverted full back craze, which has been copied by Arsenal & Liverpool. Ferguson was phenomenally successful, but primarily played 442 - as did most of the league until 4231 became the fashion in mid 2000s. The media obsession with these clickbait type argument is ridiculous

This is not even a debate. Pep has unquestionably been more influential in a shorter period than Fergie ever was. There was a LAW CHANGE because of Pep's football lol

@user-yc3zp3le1b

3 ай бұрын

Awful take, and the eras cannot be compared anyway 😂

Correct. Guardiola's influence on football and managers alone speaks for itself.

@samuelggg3801

3 ай бұрын

Incorrect

@abi4510

3 ай бұрын

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@sugarsaint

3 ай бұрын

Incorrect Peps version of tika taka at Barcelona was outstanding in all other aspects he's "reinvented" NOTHING

LOL what experienced championsleague player did Pep got in all his time at city for everyone to be sure that he is going to win it all? how many have been in a CL final? even a Quarter final, were did rodri KDB ederson diaz stones ake akanji silva grealish foden alvarez marez basically al the team played before city? at madrid or bayern or barsa ?

I'm a Liverpool fan and can think of 115 reason why Alex was better.

@environm3ntalist549

3 ай бұрын

You do realise who had the biggest spending budget for much of Fergie's time right?

@bhekimpilosmanga1986

3 ай бұрын

Well it’s clear British media is biased … they hate teams and ORG foreign owners…. Who cares what happened in 1999…. A lot has changed and Man City is the new bogeyman … thanks bin Ziyad

@russellward4624

3 ай бұрын

Can you think of 1 piece of evidence to support the 115 charges?

@kylowhen2639

3 ай бұрын

Zzzz

@Johnnyquid20

3 ай бұрын

@russellward4624 They were charged by the league 😆 they have a court dates you mad man. 115 rules broken. Cheaters like Everton and should be put in league 1 😆

Murphys got his Liverpool glasses on again

115 👀

@davidclarke6718

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for your contribution to the debate.

@kylowhen2639

3 ай бұрын

Zzzz

Pep needs an infrastructure, city were winning long before pep came. Fergie was the infrastructure

@yowhaatsup

3 ай бұрын

Did pep tell you he needs an infrastructure

@russellward4624

3 ай бұрын

Fergie also spent triple anyone else. There was no financial competition then. Pep has to compete with Chelsea and utd spending more, arsenal and lfc spending big.

@Lovelydropp

3 ай бұрын

Pep is the infrastructure. Fergie spent more than every other club combined in an uncompetitive league 😂 there’s no comparison really

@mimikolomamu

3 ай бұрын

@@Lovelydropp Fergie came in when United was winning nothing... Pep went to City when they were winning and they had build the road nicely for him....

@nickright7747

3 ай бұрын

Chelsa out spent united in the 2000s ​@@Lovelydropp

Sir Alex rebuilt Man Utd from the basement to the Boardroom. Look what he did with Aberdeen ( Very few people ever give him credit for this - beat Real Madrid in Supercup ) And then built a juggernaut 13 Premier League titles in 26 years with no money . I doubt we will ever see this again .

@anurag5851

3 ай бұрын

with no money? Yeah you know nothing

@timeisontheessence

3 ай бұрын

But he didnt influence football, he showed longevity

@jonathankennedy1715

3 ай бұрын

Including 3 doubles and a never been done before unique Treble. Wow That's some going

@PredHunter83

3 ай бұрын

CITY THE BEST TEAM IN THE LAND OF THE WORLD WE LOVE OIL WE ARE RICH WE ARE NOT GOING ANYWHERE 115 CHARGES? BRING THE PROOF WE WELCOME PLASTIC FANS 😘 😘 😘 😘 😘 😘 😘 😘

@lawmantheonetrueking3739

3 ай бұрын

Well said, SAF did what Pep will never do, he broke the century old domination of 2 clubs. He also knocked out Bayern and beat Real in the final then won the Super cup beating the then European Cup winners with Aberdeen. He then built a dynasty at United winning everything. Pep needs to do what he said if the charges stick. He then goes of to Mallorca or Udinese and wins the league there 3/4 times and then wins a major European trophy beating the heavyweight euro clubs. Nah don’t think so….

Ferguson was a mercenary who had ALL the connections + a winning mentality kids who played for Utd would buy into. Nothing less, but nothing more than that. No one copies him because there is nothing to copy - a bloody mercenary. Pep is a creative genius, a strategic mastermind who massacred Ferguson on the highest stage in 2 most important games in club football history (which every UCL final is). Everyone is trying to copy him because he is a visionary, a unique personality with unique ideas. Gem vs mercenary.

@ryanmclaren9873

3 ай бұрын

What utter rubbish, Ferguson beat Real Madrid in the final with Aberdeen before he joined United; Man U never won the league for 26 years until Ferguson rocked up. Honestly do your 0:30 homework before making such stupid statements; blinded by favouritism…. City fans 115 charges what you saying when they 0:30 remove these titles? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂, though City will probably buy them back…

@registame2878

3 ай бұрын

Pointing out things to copy then saying there is nothing to copy is 😂😂😂😂😂😂

@AlastairBarker

3 ай бұрын

115 ITS COMING!

@ErinGoBraghGT7

3 ай бұрын

A mercenary manager is a manager who follows the money to whichever club has it. Fergie stayed with the same club for 26 years but yet Pep stays less than 5 years and then moves to the club with the most money to spend. You might want to use a dictionary to find out what big words mean before you use them 😂🤣😂🤣

@Magihyun

3 ай бұрын

Of course, greedy, evil, money thirsty people replying about FFP.

City are legacy peps is a legend well.said Danny

@jonathankennedy1715

3 ай бұрын

ManCheaty 115+

I agree with Danny….. every single manager in world club football aspires to play the Pep way and have the same influence on their players as he does.

@richardjowi7561

3 ай бұрын

CAP

Pep is the best manager now, but he's inherited strong teams, Ferguson won a European Cup with Aberdeen and took over an average Man Utd team and dominated for years, Pep hasnt done that

@russellward4624

3 ай бұрын

Did he? Barca were a shambles when he took over. That's why a youth team manager with no evidence was given the job. He had the oldest team in football when he took over City. All but 1 defender was over 30 years old. If he had such a strong team why did he replace half the starting lineup the 2nd season?

@sonicboom2321

3 ай бұрын

Also Aberdeen didn’t win the European Cup.. they won the Cup Winners Cup, the third rate trophy in Europe at time (equivalent to Europa Conference League) in a time where all European leagues were pretty equal (CL winners from Romania & Serbia for example) so stop this weird ‘he won a European cup with Aberdeen’ without context 🤣🤣🤣 you’re comparing him to the GOAT Pep 🐐 (who smashed Fergie in two CL finals and has a 100% record against him), not David Moyes 🤣🤣🤣

@chippychips..

3 ай бұрын

​@@sonicboom2321Who told yout that? 😂 😂😂 The 3rd rate comp was UEFA cup, which replaced the Inter- Cities Fairs cup & it remained 3rd rate until it merged with the cwc in 99. Check UEFA's page, it's not my opinion altho I'm inclined to agree.. The CWC was full of winners & considered the second rate comp by UEFA themselves. You've only gotta look at the teams...In 1983 when aberdeen won the it there was Real Madrid, Barca, Inter, Bayern, Tottenham & PSG all contesting it. The winner played the winner of the EC in the super cup & Aberdeen won that too! The EC only had league champions so the CWC was hosting some of the best teams in europe & Aberdeen turned the football World on its head when they knocked out Bayern then beat Madrid in the final & you've gotta be pigheaded not to recognise the achievement!

Murphy spitting pure facts.

the host's reaction to Danny's statement is priceless. ...That is the creation of legacy!

Who in that city team has won major tournaments before coming to city. I can only think of one.

@JohnBaillie18

3 ай бұрын

Before moving to Manchester City: Ederson had won the Portuguese league twice Scott Carson had won the Champions League with Liverpool, making appearances against Juventus Ruben Dias had won the Portuguese League Gvardiol had won the DFB-Pokal twice Akanji had won the DFB-Pokal Kovacic had won the Champions League twice, La Liga, Super Cup, Europa League, FA Cup, Club World Cup, Supercopa Rodri had won the Super Cup Kevin De Bruyne had won the DFB-Pokal Bernardo Silva had won the Portuguese league as well as Ligue Un Matheus Nunes had won the Portuguese league Erling Haaland had won the DFB-Pokal Julian Alvarez had won the Argentinian league and the Copa Libertadores So most of them had won major trophies before joining City.

@pjoseph5950

3 ай бұрын

Scot carson 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Kovavic copa America 🤣

Both legends

We have to be honest different era different time. The level of sport always increases over time, sport science, technology, athletes, money the only real way to compare would be to compare them in their prime with the same team. Comparing United and Barcelona is apples and oranges. I could’ve managed that Barcelona to titles. Let’s not forget city’s level of spending vs fergies and Uefalonas reffing.

@superstrat5826

3 ай бұрын

Fergie outspent everyone lol. Inflation is a thing.

@RickG11

3 ай бұрын

@@superstrat5826 look at the numbers from 2008. Very different story

There’s a difference between being the best and being the most influential. You can argue all day about whether Fergie or Pep are better, but Pep is definitely more influential. His style of play has changed football over the last 16 years or so

It's a bit different because this happened pretty early on in the journey of Man City becoming giants, but as a neutral... that 1st Premier League title against QPR was the most astonishing footballing moment ever in my opinion. It's bitter sweet for me since my team went down that day, but it was amazing. You cannot really compare the two teams or managers. They change too often for a fair comparison. In terms of Europe, Sir Alex was and is better than Pep at City. That's just fact. But the journey isn't over yet, so who really knows.

Sorry, there isn’t a debate. Sir Alex is the greatest of all time. Peps had an open cheque book. 115 charges too. Sir Alex changed everything about football. A desire and a will to win.

@environm3ntalist549

3 ай бұрын

Fergie had the biggest spending budget too

@Behold__Optic_Blast

3 ай бұрын

What did he change exactly? He won leagues, that's it. He changed nothing, he was just very successful.

@ravd8082

3 ай бұрын

Fergie consistently turned his youth team into stars most notably Beckham, Scholes, Neville brothers and butt, he was great at identifying early talent like ronaldo too when he bought him from sporting lisbon

@russellward4624

3 ай бұрын

​@@ravd8082because he took other teams youth players. He didn't develope half those players.

@ravd8082

3 ай бұрын

@@russellward4624 class of 92 he didnt take from other teams he bought them through the youth, he took ronaldo from sporting lisbon yese

Of course he does, good to see Sir Alex will forever be in their heads

Jock Stein won the European cup with local lads , Sir Alex spent £300k on Gordon Strachan (his most expensive player at Aberdeen ) and won the Uefa Super cup and the European cup winners cup , which entitles them to have two gold stars on their shirts .😂😂

He had to rebuild it 😂😂

Biggest spenders in the premier league during Sir Alex’s reign 92/93 - Blackburn 93/94 - Blackburn 94/95 - Everton 95/96 - Newcastle 96/97 - Newcastle 97/98 - Newcastle 98/99 - Man United 99/00 - Liverpool 00/01 - Leeds 01/02 - Man United 02/03 - Man United 03/04 - Chelsea 04/05 - Chelsea 05/06 - Chelsea 06/07 - Chelsea 07/08 - Liverpool 08/09 - Man City 09/10 - Man City 10/11 - Man City 11/12 - Chelsea 12/13 - Chelsea Danny Murphy just happy to be there but zero facts 🤦🏾‍♂️

@jonathankennedy1715

3 ай бұрын

Well done for these facts.

Damn . . . these guys will do anything to keep United in the headlines.

What influence did Fergie have on football other than winning trophies for united, generaly speaking ? Guardiola changed football , revolutionized it and took cruyffian ideals to bext level , we have uperxoming managers who model their philosophy on already made blueprint by Guardiola , de zerbi , alonso , arteta etc ... Guardiola is not only great manager but also tactical genius thats what sets him apart from ferguson . Also not to mention Epl is far more competitive these days compared to 90s and early 2000s ..

@samuelggg3801

3 ай бұрын

U must be a young obnoxious football fan. U chatting out both sides 🤣

@ErinGoBraghGT7

3 ай бұрын

Took Cruyffian ideals to the next level? So Pep didn’t invent his style of play as he just copied Johan Cruyff and made a few tweaks. You killed your own argument right there 🤣😂🤣😂

Jim giggling like a little schoolboy at the back of the bus over Simons inane comments. 🥴

Ferguson wasn't influential because he was one in a million. He unique qualities couldn't be bottled and replicated by others.

No matter what these bums say Man City won the treble and it is in the history books forever 🤫

@jonathankennedy1715

3 ай бұрын

Forever tarnished with 115+ charges. They will all be revoked when the authorities catch up with them

@skgsinc1833

3 ай бұрын

@@jonathankennedy1715 I will enjoy drinking your salty tears when the charges are dropped 😂

@samuelggg3801

3 ай бұрын

Screw having a tarnished treble, I would only want a clean one. Move along 115

@skgsinc1833

3 ай бұрын

@@samuelggg3801 nobody asked you

@ainthubertsvlog610

3 ай бұрын

​@@samuelggg3801😅 your opinion doesn't hold enough weight

Difference is, Danny, Man united used to spend the most but at least their spending was fair considering how they generated their income

@eddiechea3603

3 ай бұрын

It was the wild wild west back then. The minute city got a middle eastern owner they came up with this corrupt idea of ffp to keep the red cartel at the top of the league.

Get the strong feeling that Jim & Simon hate City & Pep, it comes through if you listen to the nuances. Danny admires them, the way they play and work ethic.

At one of the richest Clubs on the planet Pep took 7 years win the CL - Jurgen took half that time with much less at his disposal and went to 3 CL finals in 5 years. With a little nod from Lady Luck he would have had two more of Pep's EPL titles.

Why is United still 10x bigger than City despite SAF being retired on no league trophies for over a decade? It's because SAF was so influencial with what he did at United, that they remain the biggest club till this day. Once Pep leaves it's all over. Do you guys think we are talking about City and they still have fans if they don't win for a decade? Not a chance. The influence SAF had on United will remain forever.

@liamjohnson7887

3 ай бұрын

Whilst I agree with what you say, the club size thing is irrelevant. I'd rather be a small club winning things than a big club not winning things.

@eNyaaaw

3 ай бұрын

@@liamjohnson7887 It's about who's had the most influence. Influence is the word right. City would be forgotten about in 5 years time if Pep left and they didn't win anymore. Is United forgotten about? SAF's influence at United STILL has them as the biggest club, despite no success since.

@liamjohnson7887

3 ай бұрын

@eNyaaaw couple of things on that. Is it about 'influence'? Not for me. And I'm not sure it's accurate that city will be forgotten about when baldy leaves. And again you mention club size. I don't see the point in club size.

Agueros PL winning scoring should count for the past, same with Kompanys long shot goal

Just total false claims about MUFC's spending under SAF. In SAF's entire PL tenure we were only the biggest spenders in a given year just three times (3 times out of his 21 PL seasons) , we were something like only the 6th biggest spenders in the 90s overall and in the 2000s Chelsea without a doubt and i believe even Liverpool both outspent us. Pep been at City 8 years and already has a few times City being the biggest PL spenders in a given season and the season just before he got there City were the biggest spender for that year as well. Pep is a brilliant manager no doubt but tired of the false claims about MUFC's spends. We had individual record breaking deals (especially British transfer records) at a given time with a signing but we did not simply buy our success , far from it in fact. SAF was a genius who worked wonders with a lot of smart recruitment as well to bring in the needed talent / quality.

@jonathankennedy1715

3 ай бұрын

True. Mancheaty 115+ is all buy buy buy it's plastic club with manufactured cheated so called success

@Geokinkladze

3 ай бұрын

The implication of the Bosman ruling changed football over the 90s. The big club discount that Liverpool enjoyed in the 80s and utd in the 90s was gone by the turn of the century and Chelsea's chequebook took advantage and showed a new way.

@docholiday-lm4vf

3 ай бұрын

Utds salary range was much higher. Eaiser to sign players if you pay them much more and city have that also Haaland on 900k a week 😂

@Geokinkladze

3 ай бұрын

@@docholiday-lm4vf Whilst utd paid high wages they weren't significantly outpaying other teams. Keane took less pay to go to utd v what he was offered by blackburn.

@Manchester77OT

3 ай бұрын

@@docholiday-lm4vf really not the case in a prevalent way , players often took less to play under SAF. As players became some of the best in the sport they were fairly compensated of course. But even the likes of Vidic in hindsight have admitted couldn't believe how little he accepted salary wise to initially join. Most if not all of SAF's tenure no player earned more than the gaffer / SAF.

No arguments there, SAF wouldn’t let scholes and co pass the ball around till their opponents get exhausted.

Man City are a fantastic team with an amazing manager but they don't rank as a Top 10 club in European history regarding overall Silverware and global fanbase. Regardless of what Pep wins at City, his achievements should never be mentioned in the same breath as Fergie working miracles with Aberdeen and transforming United from a struggling mid table team into a dominant Premier League force.

@yamkelamalala675

3 ай бұрын

Losers have a tendency of explaining a lot😂

@davidclarke6718

3 ай бұрын

The words of someone that gives up on life 😭

@vertigo10yearsago25

3 ай бұрын

@@davidclarke6718he’s right ?

@ironheade22

3 ай бұрын

United had finished top 4 for 5 seasons in a row before Fergie joined, the weren't a mid table club. In fact, the United team Fergie inherited finished on more points than the City team Pep inherited

@raymondbutler834

3 ай бұрын

@@yamkelamalala675 Like Man City's team of Lawyers? Sure, they've alot of explaining to do in the coming months.

Yeah love to see Pep win a European trophy with Aberdeen 😂

@samuelggg3801

3 ай бұрын

Exactly. Pep can only do it with ready made elite teams. He just sprinkles a bit of seasoning on top 😂

@danielniiaryeeannangpresda3343

3 ай бұрын

Pep's Aberdeen is Barca

@_l0wkey_4

3 ай бұрын

Yeah love to see Fergie beating Pep in a UCL FINAL 😭😭😭😭😭😭

Pep's better than Fergie. No doubt. His knowledge in football supercedes that of Fergie and Fergie confirmed it when he played Pep's Barca twice and was schooled twice. You are the image of your team. He's averagely won more than Fergie. Fergie stayed at United for over 20yrs and won 2 UCL. Pep already has 3 in fewer time. He will surpass him in league titles soon. He's groomed more managers in the game too. Xavi, Xabi Alonso, Vincent Kompany, Ten Hag, Enzo Maresca, Arteta etc etc. I can't name 3 managers who have excelled from the school of Fergie. Rooney? Gary Neville? He's changed the game forever. He's the greatest

Simon = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯

Fergies teams were more interesting and fun to watch. City is brilliant but I’m not as excited as a neutral watch city over vintage united

Danny Murphy is a top class analyst/pundit but he’s letting his Scouse show here. More important takeaway is that no one feels animosity towards City, because they are a plastic club and all of their trophies are going to get taken away when the 115 charge sword of Damocles comes down on their heads.

@stevenhickman1388

3 ай бұрын

No he’s not top class

@anurag5851

3 ай бұрын

what City has done on pitch nothing can be taken away. 115 are administrative charges which are alleged not proven yet

@lemons1986

3 ай бұрын

@@anurag5851 on the pitch city have been a cut above. I agree Charges have been brought, which is a step above alleged. You are correct though, nothing has been adjudicated yet. A lot of ppl are being impatient, talking about conspiracy theories. I just think it takes a really long time to build a case when you are trying 115 different charges.

@lemons1986

3 ай бұрын

@@stevenhickman1388 agree to disagree cheers

@stevenhickman1388

3 ай бұрын

@@lemons1986 he literally said Liverpool have won the champions league twice in recent times. 19 years ago is not recent times

city are a remarkable team with the best prem manager ever

Sir Alex won trophies with mostly average players. While Pep has always great players. And in some instances, with extraordinary world class players such as Messi, Iniesta, and Xavi.

@anurag5851

3 ай бұрын

Vander Sar, Neville, Vidic, Ferdinand, Evra, Hargreaves, Scholes, Carrick, Rooney, Tevez, Nani, Ronaldo. Who is avg here again?

@geoffreywright9856

3 ай бұрын

@@anurag5851 So these are all the players Fergie had in his domination? O'shea, Anderson, Silvestre, Evans... C'mon Fella.

@anurag5851

3 ай бұрын

@@geoffreywright9856 eidur gudjohnson, Seydou keita, rafael Marquez, Milito.. Your point?? You understand right that 08-09 was Peps first season in charge selling off top players like Deco and Ronaldinho and promoting youth from Barca B

@eddiechea3603

3 ай бұрын

All those players you listed became who they are now under Pep but your hate won’t let you give Pep his credit but if any of those players played under Fergie or Klopp you would be giving those managers the credit.

@BiggestBirdonMars

3 ай бұрын

People acting like xavi and iniesta were world class before pep came or even busquests The same players were there and couldn't win another UCL till 2015 and were never as dominant as they were Pep has coached the two out of the three greatest squads in history and it's not coincidence Barca(08-2012) Man city(2017-2023) Fergie never beat pep not just cuz pep had better players but cuz he was just a better coach

That Lyon game was because of Sterling missing the easiest chance of all time

Raphael Benitez has had more influence on the current Premiership than any manager since Wenger

Will always blame pep for " the dark arts" and " tactical fouls"

Oh dear Daniel 😂

Pep would say thats absolutely rubbish danny😊

Just one question for all u fools… SAF coached how many teams? And during his 3 decades of coaching United, how many star players he had and how many he made in comparison to PEp?

The matter of fact is fans love the other clubs and not much of city. So whatever they win no cares.

Maybe from a "style of football" standpoint, Sir Alex was more influential in business management etc.

@FreshAlchemy

3 ай бұрын

Please tell me about Alex Ferguson's influential "business management". This is a new one on me.

Man city is a fantastic football team no question and pep is world class,

@jonathankennedy1715

3 ай бұрын

ManCheaty 115+ charges

@user-kg9rt3jh1z

3 ай бұрын

@@jonathankennedy1715 not cheating on the pitch are they, when they play great football. It's the owners who are in question not the actual football players and pep

TWICE in recent times? So we’re classing 19 years ago as recent times?

@FreshAlchemy

3 ай бұрын

Relatively speaking, yes. You'll understand once you reach adulthood.

He took a damn 8years to Win it, almost a decade.

@stanh8071

3 ай бұрын

Fergi took 7 yrs to win the fa cup😂😂😂😂

@ceboluvo612

3 ай бұрын

@@stanh8071 i'm sure he did that on an average budget.

@polymath_sa9745

3 ай бұрын

​@stanh8071 it took Fergie 32 years to win only 2 UCL... and Pep 3 UCL in 14 years

Don't think you can ever top 'And Solskjaer has won it'.

@FreshAlchemy

3 ай бұрын

Corner taken quickly

@gillie-monger3394

3 ай бұрын

Oh yes you can! How about; "Oli at the wheel"!?

Man city have gained a massive fan base over the last 8 years

@samuelggg3801

3 ай бұрын

Brilliant troll message, I like it 👍🏻 lol 😂

@FreshAlchemy

3 ай бұрын

Where, Kazakhstan?

@ErinGoBraghGT7

3 ай бұрын

That’s some going right there, 1.25 fans per year, what an achievement. Such a massive fan base they can’t fill their stadium.

I've always said that fergie's lack of innovation or a trademark style would hurt part of his legacy when it comes to manager comparisons. Arsene Wenger changed diet, football culture change and introduced a style of play in EPL. Fergie didn't use the 4-3-3 t'ill Mourinho came over in 04/05 and tactically he was embarassed quite few times in Europe by more tactical or innovative teams e.g. Bilbao (Bielsa), Madrid (Mourinho)

if funny how people try to brush over the fact city have spent alot of money, im sure they have spent more money on defenders than any other team in football history, just alone

@ComradeOgilvy1984

3 ай бұрын

When Liverpool was crushing the whole league back in 2019/20 the narrative from the City fans was it was the Laporte injury that made the difference. Holy smokes! Pep literally had 350M worth of defenders (more than the total estimated value of most EPL clubs) and his cupboard was bare after one injury?!? The joke at the time was: "Do not worry. Pep will spend another 150M on defenders." You know what happened? Pep spent 150M buying defenders in summer 2020.

Must be the bitterness from Danny boy not winning any Premier League titles while SAF was in charge of United.

Pep Guardiola is a great manager, no question, but he has never been tested at a club with very little money to spend, both Fergie, Clough and several other managers have managed success at clubs like this.

Pep’s influence is more than Sir Alex because 1) he invented the Busquets role 2) He invented the possession based football 3) Upcoming managers like Alonso and Arteta are using Pep’s playbook 4) 08-09 UCL final Man Utd couldn’t do anything against Barcelona and both these were very close in terms of quality. Sir Alex is still the greatest PL manager of all time due to his success over long period of time and he won leagues with the likes of Cleverley and Anderson in midfield. But Pep has more influence because of the different things he has invented in the game

@JakeEvansForteAlexander

3 ай бұрын

Pep didn't invent the Busquets role or possesion based football at all. Look back in history.

@paulhynes170

3 ай бұрын

08/09 they cheated to get to that final ask any Chelsea fan

In terms of playing style, there's no doubt that Pep has been more influential than Fergie was. Fergie played a basic 442 for much of his tenure, but just did it better than anyone else. Pep's style has been taken on and adapted by coaches across Europe, although of course it has its roots in Dutch 'total football' thanks to Johan Cruyff's influence at Barcelona. So while Pep didn't exactly innovate his style, he certainly re-popularised it for the modern era, while Fergie perfected a style of play that was already widely used.

@ErinGoBraghGT7

3 ай бұрын

Pep’s style was stolen from Johan Cruyff.

@WhatInTheDeepestShadeOfFeck

3 ай бұрын

@@ErinGoBraghGT7 if you're going to reply to my comment, at least have the decency to read it...

@ErinGoBraghGT7

3 ай бұрын

@@WhatInTheDeepestShadeOfFeck I did read it and I corrected what you said about the roots being in Dutch football. It’s not just the roots, it’s the trunk and branches too. Pep is the equivalent of the leaves on the tree but you are making out that he took the seed and grew the tree which is false, Cruyff took the seed and grew the tree and then Pep STOLE it. Now next time you respond to me don’t get up on your high horse again.

I'm a proud Aberdeen and Manchester United fan. Nuff said.

Asterisk FC will never be respected in the eyes of football. The players and the Manager yes, never the club. This is the only time you can say that the players and the Manager are bigger than the club

Could Pep do what Sir Alex did at Aberdeen? Doubt it

@gvimalku

2 ай бұрын

Pep battered Alex in 2 CL finals. Alex’s team couldn’t touch the ball😂

@robertdennehy7948

2 ай бұрын

@@gvimalku still couldnt do what Sir Alex did at Aberdeen, it be like winning the Prem with Spurs

If you're a purist, enchanted by longevity and a cabinet bursting with silverware, Ferguson might be your king. However, if you're swayed by tactical innovation and a style of play that is poetry in motion, Guardiola could be the maestro conducting your orchestra.

@FreshAlchemy

3 ай бұрын

You mean a style of play which is like paint drying on a wall. What's poetic about 1000 short sideways passes per game? It's boring.

@ainthubertsvlog610

3 ай бұрын

​@@FreshAlchemy boring to bums .for us we enjoy it

Jordan claiming City aren't underappreciated because they lost to Zalaegerszeg, oh hang on that was Utd, in the preliminary rounds ffs. Carry on with your point Simon.

Ferguson never bought every player in every position

A bit one sided this. Blackburn, like Leicester city broke the run of the big clubs when united were dominant. Pep and city have had a decent run, which has been artificially created. Man city and pep will never be held in the same regard as utd and fergie.

All i can say is cloughie era shanks paisley bobby robson pep and klopp are just a sprinkle on top

Danny prob thinks that Roy Evans had as much influence as fergie did 😂

@FreshAlchemy

3 ай бұрын

The conversation's not even about Liverpool

I have to be honest as a Liverpool fan. I cannot wait to be in the champions League again.... It'll be nice to win to Europa this year, but champions League is where we belong or at least this squad belongs

Cant compare Sir Alex's achievements with ManCheaty 115+

@kianparmar9648

3 ай бұрын

Its about Pep and not man city. And i am sre Sir Alex , if man utd book of account to be opend , it will have the same cheats, you had the best of best players in england and europe and still crying. WIthout great players you cant play good football with consistency, and that spend into best players made him SIR...

When Pep wins the treble with six academy players and the best two midfielders in the world suspended for the champions league final, then we can talk about who's most influential or who's the best manager. Yes United spent a lot of money but most of Ferguson's success was on the back of the class of 92, how much did they cost compared to what City spent or cheated to win the treble and get to where they are.

Always makes me laugh listening to how bitter Liverpool players who had the misfortune of playing for them whilst Sir Alex was knocking them off their perch 😂😂

It was fantastic when Urd won in 99. But Munich were the better team throughout the game. Utd didn't have any challengers except Arsenal around the turn if the century.

The Saudis purchased the best staff to create the perfect formula and got Pep to push it foward. Ferguson could only spend money generated from his success ! Theres a big difference

Danny isn't the sharpest knife in the room anyway

@FreshAlchemy

3 ай бұрын

At least Danny doesn't constantly use words completely out of context due to trying to sound clever like Simon regularly does.

Once the 115 chickens come home to roost, they will be derided rather than revired

Jim speaks redtop tripe, Danny speaks sense. Simon mumbles on about nonsense.......same every time I listen.

“ little city” =rent free😮‍💨👌🏻

@samuelggg3801

3 ай бұрын

Fake plastic club. It’s not living rent free anywhere lol 😂

Why do his City need to do it for a decade to be compared? He managed Barca for 4 years and it left a bigger legacy than Sir Alex did in 20 as almost everyone thinks his Barca is the greatest club side ever. He's already destroyed every shorter term record Sir Alex put down in the prem, just like he destroyed him in 2 UCL finals, Pep owns this guy.