I've been a fairly "heavy user" of KZread starting around 2015. I only came across your channel several months ago. I realized your channel is my favorite of all channels now. Your content is top notch, please keep the videos going, thank you....

@jamie86403

Жыл бұрын

I still don’t understand how this channel hasn’t reached the millions mark. This is quality content with zero foul language. 😊

@veganfortheanimals6994

Жыл бұрын

@@jamie86403 agree !

@zirzmokealot4600

3 ай бұрын

Bet your not vegan

Last February, I weighed 425lbs. Today, a year later I am 295 lbs and still losing, albeit slower. Of all the diets out there, a vegan diet with a focus on mostly whole foods was easiest for me to maintain a calorie deficit (I still consume oils sparingly, but only about 1% of my carb intake is processed). I did it without surgery, medication, or any real exercise, though I plan on joining a gym very soon. This was also after my doctor told me a year and a half ago that I wouldnt be able to lose all the weight without surgery, and I walked out of his office and havent been back. I've been told I should write a book about this if I'm successful, I've never been a great storyteller. I have to say I've learned a lot from your channel recently about telling a good story.

@NiranjanBendre

Жыл бұрын

Congratulations and good luck! You did it right! Maintaining is harder believe it or not. So keep at it! Good luck if you write a book!

@PlantChompers

Жыл бұрын

WOW!!! 💪👏😍 What an achievement. I know it gets harder and harder as you get lighter, but it sounds like you're on a great track.

@kathleenbefittwell8179

Жыл бұрын

That's awesome! Keep up the great work 🍅🍄🍌🥬🫐

@mrothk01

Жыл бұрын

@Plant Chompers Thank you. It has been a rewarding experience at times, and other times, soul crushing. To quote one of my favorite novels: "A journey will have pain and failure. It is not only the steps forward that we must accept. It is the stumbles. The trials. The knowledge that we will fail. That we will hurt those around us. But if we stop, if we accept the person we are when we fall, the journey ends. That failure becomes our destination. To love the journey is to accept no such end. I have found, through painful experience, that the most important step a person can take is always the next one."

@nonfictionone

Жыл бұрын

If the loss plateaus, look into fasting. People I know (and myself) after doing fasting for a while say they’re never going back (to eating so often) and they wondered how they used to eat all the time like they used to. For most of history humans ate one meal a day.

I am French and we have a lot of heart diseases in our country. The French paradox is baloney. The only reason we are healthier than Americans is what we walk a lot, don't eat much sugar, and eat small portions. One American ice cream portion is serving 2 people in France. Oh and the last thing, food is not omnipresent. We go to a lecture, no food, music concert, no food....but people in France eat way too much saturated foods or animal food: meat, eggs, cheese and all kinds of dairy.

@natalietannerblogger-theed9419

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for this response!

@happyapple4269

Жыл бұрын

Thats exactly what humans should be eating.

@jimmy5634

Жыл бұрын

You can’t lump Americans or America into one category. We are a more diverse country than any in the world. There are many, many healthy Americans lady. Stop this typical European generalization stuff.

@vlatkomarjanovic6594

Жыл бұрын

Don't you eat also lots of bread, pastry, chocolate and drink vine?

@isabellezablocki7447

Жыл бұрын

@@vlatkomarjanovic6594 Personally, I don't but Yes French people eat a lot of bread and pastries, chocolate occasionally, and wine also with meals.

Please don't worry about your videos being too long! I love how you do the very difficult job of tying together a good story with the facts WITHOUT misdirection!

Sometimes I worry that I live in an echo chamber but you always give us the facts and I then I feel like I just live in reality 🤷🏽‍♂️

I feel really sad that Ancel Keys' name has been trashed so unfairly. What a shame the 'popular' opinion on his work and integrity as a scientist is so far from the truth.

@PlantChompers

Жыл бұрын

I know, it really gets to me, as you can probably tell. Everyone I know who actually reads his stuff, not just me, seems to believe he was one of the truly great scientists of the last century, and so was his wife Margaret who contributed to his studies.

You're a very effective storyteller who just happens to have the science on his side.

@tonysmith1034

Жыл бұрын

And when the science is garbage, well I suppose at least he has a side.

So glad you're debunking these professional liars and meat apologists. I think you're right about story, but I think it's also motivated reasoning. People don't WANT the story about how their favorite foods, manufactured by torturing animals in factory farms, are bad for their health and accelerating the climate crisis.

My favorite nutrition book of the last 20 years is "Nourish" 2020 by Reshma Shah and Brenda Davis The unique superiority of this book is that it covers nutrition for the whole life cycle, including pre-conception, pregnancy, breastfeeding, infants, children, adolescents, middle and old age. I learned things I had not known before such as: - iron supplementation can kill an infant and child. 30% of infant deaths are due to accidental ingestion of iron supplements. - high osteoporosis rates correlate with high dairy intake, low OP rates correlate with low dairy intake - iron deficiency effects 50% of pre-school children, and excess dairy inhibits iron absorption - premature new borns are at great risk of iron deficiency because 80% of iron stores are absorbed in the last trimester. Brenda is without doubt the world's leading authority on plant based diets IMO.

@PlantChompers

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. I love that book and recommend it often.

@beepbeepnj2658

Жыл бұрын

You should read the 2018 book by Dr. Hiroshi Shibata MD, Ph.D called Malnutrition in Japan threatens longevity. Plant Chompers loved the book and Shibata has over 100 papers in Japan, a country with a non profit healthcare system so reason to mislead their own people unlike your Willcox brothers in a for profit USA system selling their books and products. Page 76 tells you everything you need to know.

@helicart

Жыл бұрын

@@beepbeepnj2658 so you have said elsewhere. You'd benefit from removing your partiality cap on this topic. The Wilcox brothers worked with the Okinawa Research Center for Longevity Science, which was established by Makoto Suzuki and funded originally by the Japanese government. This center liaises with multiple academic centers of excellence around the world. i.e. Okinawa International University, Department of Human Welfare [Okinawa, Japan] Tomishiro Central Hospital [Okinawa, Japan] Tokyo Metropolitan Institute of Gerontology [Tokyo, Japan] Harvard University, T. H. Chan School of Public Health [Massachusetts, United States] Layton Aging and Alzheimer’s Disease Center, Oregon Health & Science University [Oregon, United States] Pacific Health Research Institute [Hawaii, United States] John A. Burns School of Medicine, University of Hawaii at Manoa [Hawaii, United States] 5-COOP (5-Country Oldest Old Project) Study [Denmark, France, Japan, Switzerland, and Sweden] Chample Study, University of the Ryukyus [Okinawa, Japan] KOCOA (Keys to Optimal Cognitive Aging) Study, University of the Ryukyus/Oregon Health & Science University [Okinawa, Japan/Oregon, United States] SONIC (Septuagenarian, Octogenarian, Nonagenarian Investigation with Centenarian) Study, Osaka University [Osaka, Japan] Kuakini HHP (Honolulu Heart Program), Kuakini Medical Center [Hawaii, United States] New England Centenarian Study, Boston University [Massachusetts, United States] Georgia Centenarian Study, University of Georgia [Georgia, United States] Health ABC (Aging and Body Composition) Study, National Institute on Aging, [United States] International Centenarian Consortium (ICC) That you imply the Wilcox brothers were third rate scientists and first rate hucksters pushing a plant based agenda, says more about your beliefs and character than theirs.

@beepbeepnj2658

Жыл бұрын

@@helicart Stick with exact facts as I never said what my belief is. Dr. Shibata is in Japan not an outsider selling heavily marketed books and products which is why you probably have never even heard or read Shibata non marketed book. Japan is the country with the highest life expectancy, the highest egg consumption rate, the highest IQ and one of the lowest cancer and obesity rates in the world. The law in Japan is you must have a waist for men under 33.5". Willcox brothers (spelled Willcox, not Wilcox) could care less about any law of waist size or anything to do with health as they are money makers with an agenda.

@helicart

Жыл бұрын

@@beepbeepnj2658 - And you deny the studies of Makoto Suzuki. - Hong Kong has the highest life expectancy. And this figure means little. It is more to do with a homogeneous culture that has tight migration laws, and an expensive cost of living that discourages residents from making poor life choices. - The Metabo 'law' is not a law with any serious consequences for individuals. The consequences of having an excessive waist are worse. - There you go again, hammering Makoto Suzuki and the Willcox brothers. Which other plant based diet advocates have you got it in for?

You are my hero. I fell for the real lie and ate steak 5 times a week. Got off sugar and looked good for about two years. I have learned this happens to many people who do what I did. I have finally found the truth and now rarely eat animal products. The big fat lie is a big meat hoax that will kill you if fully embraced. Love the blue zones! Thanks again for all you do. You may have saved my life!

@trentonharris7676

Жыл бұрын

@@workhardplayharderx2 No, that is a false assumption. I and many others switched from a whole "food" plant-based diet to a whole food animal-based diet. Vegetables are toxic. Detoxing from oxalates almost killed me.

@jackschitt6235

Жыл бұрын

@@trentonharris7676 Were you diagnosed with something that caused you to change your eating habits?

@trentonharris7676

Жыл бұрын

@@jackschitt6235 No, I simply stopped eating the "foods" that were unnecessary (carbohydrates, anti-nutrients, and fiber) and replaced them with foods that actually satisfy my nutritional needs (pasture-raised meat, eggs, and dairy).

@cornstar1253

Жыл бұрын

Tell Hong Kong. longest lives and largest per capita meat consumption

@TheVafa95

10 ай бұрын

​@@trentonharris7676 interesting 🎉 These days rarely people watch a program in which they disagree with the bottom line. Almost everyone is listening to whatever that confirms their experience or beliefs.

This is just brillant content. The youtube algorithm needs to wake up and push this content to the world!

Hi Chris, I hardly write any comments on videos, but in your case I truly believe that it is worth the effort. First of all, I really admire your videos and I watched nearly all of them to this day. They are so well structured and narrated, while also really trying to dig to the root of the problem. I find the topic of nutrition absolutely fascinating, even though I am just 23, exercise nearly daily and do not have to worry about that issue so much - at least yet… Recently, I listened to an episode of the Joe Rogan podcast featuring Paul Saladino, who you certainly have heard of. As you may have noted, Joe Rogan very often, or almost exclusively, has guests on his podcast who champion carnivore, low carb and high fat diets - leading to a very skewed picture overall. I think that he still does some kind of carnivore diet and I also know that he is a very controversial figure in general - not only in terms of nutritional advice. I personally like and admire some aspects of his personality and occasionally listen to him, even though there are many - and I repeat many - opinions I would (strongly) disagree with. Nonetheless, I find it incredibly important to also take into account diverging opinions in order to see where individuals might be wrong. Have you therefore ever, or would you even consider, making an effort to be on his podcast? I personally would find it so important that his audience (which is inarguably incredibly large and influential) gets to see the other side of the coin. And why not from an expert (and very importantly: great storyteller) like you? Please keep it going and all the best from Austria.

1:03 The exact opposite is the case! The longer the videos, the more enjoyable they are to watch because they are just so incredibly entertaining and educational! Thank you for another great video!

@annemccarron2281

4 ай бұрын

I love watching a podcast with other rational people!

Chris, this platform does not deserve your content. Thanks a lot for talking about science in an exciting way. Who would've thought this was possible.

Bart Kay is clearly a stable and reasonable man 😂 I better stop before he sends me to prison…

I fell for it too a few years back. I got into intermittent fasting, and a lot of channels that talk about fasting also talk about keto and high fat diets. Thankfully I never went full keto but did go high fat for a while. I was always hungry, had more bodyfat and less muscle vs when I was eating carbs, and not sure it it was related but I also started developing high blood pressure. Thanks to channels like yours I'm now back to avoiding saturated fat and eating fat in moderation vs it being the main macro I consume. I still eat meat but mostly fish and chicken, and way less than I used to.

These 2 videos can be extrapolated out to so many human behaviors that cause so much discourse. Certainly have helped me display more patience and kindness with people who hold easily disprovable beliefs and the world could certainly use more of that. Thank you again for what you do

@PlantChompers

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. Love the patience and kindness. I can't get David McRaney's book out of my head, How Minds Change, whenever I meet someone completely convinced of their easily disprovable beliefs. It's phenomenal.

Thank you for the subtitles. My grandma is 84 years old, and my grandma is 78 years old. Although they don't understand English, they can still watch your video with Google Translate.❤❤❤❤

@PlantChompers

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for letting me know that. I've tried transcription services but never get great accuracy, so I do it myself now. But I just noticed that from 20-24 minutes in the episode I had some typos. Gah! I must've had a distraction. Anyway, fixed now.

Hi Chris! Thank you for your hard work :-) Every time a new video comes out I feel like a kid in a candy store... on Christmas! I've been giving presentations on the topic of WFPD, and my experience with it, to student since a few years. However, my dream is to have you as a guest speaker in our hospitality school, online or in person. Our students will one day be running hotels and restaurants around the world, and having a credible and a highly articulate speaker is just what they need for a healthy attitude shift. P. S. Thank you for recommending "How minds change" - what a book!

@natalietannerblogger-theed9419

Жыл бұрын

Same! I'm thrilled with a new episode!

Bart Kay lost me with name calling and low blows. As soon as a person begins name calling and slinging insults they subtract from the content of their message, in my opinion. Excellent episode, Chris, per usual. Thank you for being here.

@tonysmith1034

Жыл бұрын

Too bad for you the ones that are right say mean things.

@weston.weston

Жыл бұрын

@@tonysmith1034 Your response is expected.

@Bob-uz4ov

Жыл бұрын

Bart, admitted he acts that way for views. He also said he has autism in a live Q&A. But the biggest problem with him is he's a hypocrite. Because his platform is that no study is controlled enough to be valid and that epidemiological studies aren't valid proof. But he uses this information when it suits his positions. He also complains about people using fallacies in debates while doing the same thing. He also supports some conspiracies that aren't supported by science. He considers himself an expert of many areas but the only record of his achievements are some studies containing his name. I would argue that to achieve a Phd you probably need to have some published studies.

@langreeves6419

Жыл бұрын

Bart also is backwards in his science. He claims nothing is true without knowing the mechanism. He interrupts people sometimes by just repeating the word "mechanism" over and over. We usually don't know the mechanisms until long after we know the practical science. We noticed smokers dying at younger ages of cancer and cardiovascular disease. It was decades later we discovered mechanisms of how tobacco does this. Likewise, people knew about diseases being contagious over a thousand years before we understood the mechanisms of bacteria and viruses. We don't need to know mechanisms in order to make informed conclusions and decisions. In short, Bart Kay is a famous pseudoscientist.

@MmartinL

Жыл бұрын

@@tonysmith1034 Show me a study on such correlation. Mean things are said by mean people. Any truth can be said in a nice or a mean way. Truth has nothing to do with being mean.

People love to hear good news about their bad habits!

its those buggers at big Mediterranean again

@lygiabird6988

Жыл бұрын

😂😂 that damn big Mediterranean

Excellent as always. I'd just like to add that meat also increases the risk of kidney stones. Meat has no oxalate but it does have uric acid and sodium. It lacks citrate and independently decreases the urine pH, which increases urinary calcium losses. All of these factors together increase stone risk. A search for kidney stone diet recommendations will show major urological organizations around the world recommending stone formers reduce their meat intake.

@PlantChompers

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. 👏

5:58 Bart Kay reminds me of the Venezuelan guy from Parks and Rec. "You say Ancel Keys was a great man: right to jail. You promote the Mediterranean diet: right to jail. You cite the Seven Countries Study: jail. You suggest people should eat their vegetables: believe it or not, jail."

I really enjoyed this assessment of the psychology behind successful idea dissemination in publishing and exploration of the death of expertise, pretending to be a nutrition propaganda rebuttal ; ) Your content is incredibly dense but clearly and engagingly presented, and I'm glad to see that it's paying off in subs. Yay for Plant Chompers!

Today is a glorious day.

Great thoughtful nuanced presentation as usual. Always thrilled to see you've posted something new.

You're such a great story teller and also quite scientific! Loved the story about your book business - you seem like a very interesting character! Can't wait for your next video. 👍

I have been checking your page daily to see when the next video would come out. I haven't even watched this one yet, but was too excited not to comment.

Notice animal PROTEIN had nearly as high of a correlation as animal fat.

@PlantChompers

Жыл бұрын

Glad you picked that up! They produced a second chart that actually showed a higher correlation and that was one of their criticisms of Keys - that maybe it was the protein, not the fat. Keys was so smart, though, he was always aware that heart disease is multi causal. Saturated fat turned out to be the biggest thing, but there were other contributors like animal protein, sugar, smoking, lack of exercise...

@lygiabird6988

Жыл бұрын

@@PlantChompers ah dang… sugar is my fave 😢 lol I’m doing a lot better at choosing fruit instead nowadays.

I just work out stay away from processed foods and seed oils. It’s so different from person to person. I knew someone that ate sugar and whatever he could eat and outlived his brother by 10 years who ate “healthier “ than him and also worked out. Genes also play a role. As long as my blood work looks good I’m going to keep eating an omnivore diet. My grandma smoked at one point 3 packs of cigarettes per day and she didn’t die of cancer and lived to 96. My dad died in his early 50’s to cancer. I do love your channel with all the references to studies and books. You should invite Paul Saladino he could learn something.

@someguy2135

Жыл бұрын

I don't know how old you are, but remember that most chronic, deadly diseases don't become diagnosed until you are middle aged or older. Smoking, as well as a meat-heavy diet increase the chances of that happening.

The amount of time and research that go into your videos is phenomenal. Thank you for taking the time to produce factual replies to all the main-stream fads! Love your stuff.

I really love your story telling style !!

I love your videos! Thank you for providing an intelligent scientific perspective

Chris, thank you for your great video. I'm glad that your comment section supports you. I think that the video was relatively easy to understand. I think that the portions that were difficult were due to me not understanding your humour, or something like that. Keep up the good work.

Echoing the Great as Always comment so many others made. Thanks for keeping up your passion in making these! Your sincere and transparent approach is awesome!!

Always happy to see more videos from you. Hope you and your family are well!

@PlantChompers

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! 😁 Some of our fast food and meat loving relatives are having tragic health problems, but otherwise we're good!

@Arthurnate

Жыл бұрын

@@PlantChompers All you can do sometimes is be a good example of health! Thanks for everything you do 🙏

I always look forward to your new videos Chris. Thank you.

High quality as always. These videos have become must-watch for me. Thanks!

Wow! Another great lecture. You always give one plenty to think about. Thank you again. 👏

wow i ve been scared for 4 months!! i am so glad i found you and your wonderful wisdom and vids! thank you

Thanks, Chris for your excellent work!

It is a great pleasure watching your videos, and I find the storytelling to be excellent in every one of them. Keep up the good work and thank you for the efforts you put into making such great content.

Smart & entertaining Chris. Love watching your videos!

Love your videos. So much noise out there. Yours os a breath of fresh air

I check for your videos every day! They alone with a handful of others, are very informative. As one who lost, for the first time in a 30 year history of obesity, I went from 260 to 140 using over a 2 year period using a diet approach called bright line eating armed only with the book. The approach eliminates added sugar, flour, and has strong warnings against processed foods. It also limited to 3 planned meals a day, following guidelines like the old food exchanges, and required a massive increase in non starchy vegetable consumption. The more I learn on your channel, Nutrition made simple, and The proof, the more I realize how "in line" she is with a lot of her thinking. She makes it clear with her plan that she hopes success with the approach spurs further interest in health and nutrition and the book is more about establishing a healthy relationship with food than a book on optimal nutrition. It did for me. When I charted my food intake on cronometer I wound up with macros in line with the Mediterranean diet. For someone like me who had a bad relationship with food and snacking, it was a godsend. While the nutrition was far better than I had done in the past, it spurred more interest in nutrition (FWIW over 4 years, and extreme stressful life events, I did gain back 40lbs and have 30 to go to return to optimal weight.......but, back on plan again and eat very little animal based foods.. I have accepted that the discipline is, FOR ME, a necessary part of my life and a way of life. When it becomes an "atomic habit" (another great book) it becomes a way of life. I also did not want to do bariatric surgery and an angry that this was the only solution offered to me by the medical community.

@PlantChompers

Жыл бұрын

WOW!!! First of all, congrats on your success. 👏💪🎉 Second, why didn't I know about Susan Pierce Thompson?! I've added her to my spreadsheet. I just listened to an interview she did and was very impressed. I might want to interview her for the channel. I'll read the book. Thank you.

@MsGrannyfrog

Жыл бұрын

@@PlantChompers Thank you. Like many she sells "camps" and workshops and recipe books, but she quit her job in education to pursue this full time and also has a staff. It is, however, quite possible to follow her approach with this very inexpensive book along with free online support groups, which is the approach I took. I would love to see a critique. It is not perfect, but after this worked for me, it worked for a daughter, and then she gave the book to a friend and it worked for them, and that one copy of the book is still making its way around. I think it very much has to do with the target audience . I was trained from an early age to snack and go to food for comfort and the wrong foods and foods that a person without these issues can eat in moderation, I cannot and The biggest realization that came on for me was that the JOY of being in a healthy lean body far outweighed any very transient pleasure of any morsel of food.

Thanks for your work! I just came across your channel and i have no idea why i never came across it before. It's exactly my kind of thing!

This is great. I worked as an exercise physiologist and health coach for many years. I found marketing challenging because of the amount of crap out there and the fact that so many people wanted a quick fix. The truth isn’t “sexy”. The narrative/story telling approach discussed in the video is very powerful.

Wonderful content as always! Thank you for all the work you put into these videos. P.s. I'd love your breakdown or thoughts on Bryan Johnson's Blueprint regiment.

We need more videos! You might have the most “entertaining” channel in my subscription list!

@someguy2135

Жыл бұрын

Infotainment at its finest.

David Attenborough is a great storyteller and a good spokesman.

@PlantChompers

Жыл бұрын

He is one of my greatest heroes. ❤️

Always great content! Thanks! 👍👍

Excellent video, Chris! Keep up the great work!

Thank you for this - great content as always 🙂

Great series, Chris. I love your work. Thanks.

Great work, loving this little series of vids.

Your videos are so well done. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge and talent with the world!

Excellent video. I could tell all the hard work you've put in this video.

Great video! Your videos are funny, engaging, and seem so truthful. Keep it up!

I’ve been binging all of your videos and I can’t get enough! Great research and more engaging than my science teacher. 🔥

So excited to see your blue dot on my subscription queue. Great content always!

Excellent--thanks for this video.

Sadly, here in Nepal some drs. are following animal products diet to control diseases like diabetes, weight loss and recommend such diet even kidney and heart disease. Being an ayurvedic physician, nutritionist and researchers myself, you are an eye-opener for me Chris. You boosts me up more whenever i watch your videos. You saved our time for reading so many researches and book.

Thanks for another amazing video

Your content is awesome! Love your channel! ❤

Haven't even watched yet, and I already know this is going to be Goooooood!

Such a good video!!!! Very nicely done. ❤

Awesome episode Chris 👏👌

A note on the traditional Japanese diet: rice is a major, if not the majority, source of calories. Fish and vegetables are critical sources of nutrition, but rice and noodles are the staple foods.

Hey Chris would you consider doing a video going further into oxalates? I started eating spinach again as they are a nutrition powerhouse, I read that boiling them overnight can remove up to 87% of oxalates but it is one of the areas that is used as a talking point by carnivores . Anyway awesome vid! You and nutrition made simple are the best nutrition channels on KZread!

@Atypical_Chad

Жыл бұрын

I'd recommend looking up "Gojiman Oxalates". He's covered the topic a few times as it can be an issue when overconsumed.

@samdaniels2

Жыл бұрын

@@Atypical_Chad Yeah I'm not so sold on Gojiman anymore, not since Nutrivore went over his vids. I also saw that video and after researching it, I feel he left a lot of stuff out.

@windre

Жыл бұрын

i second this

@WohaliTheOneandOnly

Жыл бұрын

I saw video other day how this woman started oxalate dumping so fast the crystals started coming through her skin when she quit oxalate foods.

@Tinky1rs

Жыл бұрын

As I'm no expert I'll cite what my country's dietary guidelines say on oxalates, as well as the kidney hospital here for thosewith kidney stones: Oxalate-rich foods are part of a varied diet and shouldn't be excluded on the basis of their oxalate level in general. If the kidney stones found have been classified as calcium oxalates, it is recommended to avoid oxalate-rich foods as much as possible.

Excellent video as usual.

I could listen to you for hours, seriously, haha, your videos are not long enough 😅 love your content ❤

@PlantChompers

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! I stress over how long they are. This one was 40 minutes before I started throwing things overboard, trying to get it to 20-something.

@plants_and_wellness1574

Жыл бұрын

@@PlantChompers don’t stress! I think I speak for everyone else here when I say we would watch an hour long video if you did it 🤗

@someguy2135

Жыл бұрын

@@PlantChompers Some of the best KZread content is long form. I regret to see the trend seems to be for the shorter videos to be the most popular.

Love it! This story angle makes me want to write another book that is an actual fiction. I know the one I'm releasing soon doesn't meet this format but I do like it the way it is. It's short and punchy.

I'm taking the advice from this video and the previous one, since I'm trying to write the script for my thesis defense and I already know one of the juries doesn't get along very well with me. Gotta need all the help I can get, so I guess I'll be making them fear, laugh, doubt, feel good and maybe cry?

@PlantChompers

Жыл бұрын

Hahaha, that's so awesome. It's a strange thing with scientists; many believe using emotion is wrong and the science should stand on its own. Allan told me he actually failed his PhD defense at Berkeley and that wrecked his dreams to go into academia, so he went to the USGS instead and spent a decade proving his thesis advisors wrong so he could eventually get hired as a professor. And in the process, he became legend.

At the end of your program, it switched to an adv. about a muscular guy talking/pushing gaining muscle according to "body type". The switch to adv. was so seamless that in the beginning I thought that it was part of your program 😂😂😂. Yet another trick in pushing whatever.

I knew these people were lying to us, thanks for showing us how and I hope other s figure it out too. These people are causing harm to others to line their own pockets. It's criminal.

Don't worry about the length of your videos. I'd watch them if they are 5 hours long no problem :).

Love this channel.

I’m no scientician and I certainly haven’t read the 7 countries study but surely smoking must have played a big part in the outcome of people’s health back in the 50’s regardless of what they ate. Even today if you travel to parts of Europe or Asia it’s stunning how many people still smoke which would surely have to impact country by country data? 🤷‍♂️

@PlantChompers

Жыл бұрын

Yes, huge factor. Health is so multi-causal...Exercise, happiness, weight, processed food.

Just another brilliant video

Excellent video!

a year ago I was weighed 270 taking a hand full of meds for type 2 diabetes, High Blood pressure, high uric acid, and stupid high cholesterol. I dumped all complex carbs and sugar and started Keto with intermittent fasting and dropped about 50 lbs very quickly. I progressed to "clean" keto with moderate exercise dropping another 40 slower but I am no longer on meds and I weigh180. My goal weight is 165 to 170 hopefully I will be there soon... my point being clean and whole food should be what we are advocating vs vegan or not ...and with out the whole "moral" dilemma! Everyone is different .... there is no one best diet for good health. Corporate farming as a whole is bad for the environment whether it be crops or animals.

Let's talk about sugar. The main macro nutrient that when COMBINED with FAT makes you store fat and generally unhealthy (not to mention that when eaten alone does the same thing). Great work putting all of this together but the elephant in the room has always been the SUGAR (added or not such as fructose and steel milled wheat and simple starches) in the modern diet. In Japan, for example they don't eat much added sugar at all and even their "sweets" aren't very sweet. Can we correlate some studies about people in countries that don't eat so much sugar?? Please?

@PlantChompers

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. Yeah, sugar is a really bad actor... I ought to do an episode on that.

@Japan_Changed_My_Life

Жыл бұрын

@@PlantChompers Looking forward to it!

My dad used to say “only tell lies where the truth doesn’t fit”! Unfortunately, if you want to write a bestseller nutrition book, it would appear that the truth is frequently just the wrong damn size!😂

I really enjoy your deep analysis based on real references and data and style of presentation. This definitely helps sort out the highly confusing world of dieting and lifestyle for a common person. I started my diet journey 6 months ago. The first set of doctors on the net I came across were keto and low carb high fat doctors. Their presentations appeared very convincing. Following a low carb high fat diet with IF I lost weight and my metabolic numbers improved. After about 4 months youtube started showing some links for plant based diet doctors. Their stories also appeared very convincing. By this time I was completely lost. More recently I came across your channel. Thanks for sorting out confusions for folks like me. All keto doctors and non-doctors were going after Dr Ancel Keys in their podcasts. They said that he influenced diet changes in US towards use of high carb and low fat diet. I think they mean that food industry introduced processed food based on his recommendations and life style illnesses went up. They say that Americans were eating mostly meat based diet which was low in carbs prior to that. America did not have this much prevalence of these types of sicknesses at that time. I am totally convinced with your counter argument about these keto folks making up story about their leaving data out in 7 country study. All your arguments are on very solid ground. Can you please extend your analysis to refute their claim of associating Dr Keys' recommendations and changes in the American food industry going high carb and low fat processed food and increase of lifestyle diseases. That's where they are able to convince a common person that Dr Keys influence lead to increase in diseases and not lessen them. Thanks again for great public service.

Another great, very informative, and entertaining video!! Thank goodness I do not use TikTok 😵‍💫 Thank you for all your wonderful content!!

It took one family member getting a stroke, and another dying from one, to search out a scientific consensus on nutrition. I fell on the eat Lancet study , but discovered that Ornish had the best results for heart disease and atherosclerosis. Convincing an old fuddy duddy to eat healthy was hard work, and well, I failed.

Thank You!

Chris, you really should have given me a trigger warning for 23:19 I'm pretty sure my blood pressure went up 70 points in those 23 seconds. It's guys like that, who make me wanna beat up my punching bag.

@PlantChompers

Жыл бұрын

Hahaha. He'll get 100x more views than anything I do... More punching. 🥊

Finally got to see a video from you when it’s uploaded, always miss em and only see them like several days or a week later 😂😂😂 Heck, i have to manually check your channel regularly for new videos. 😭 I actually cringed when Bart Kay popped up, i can’t stand him and his arrogance aswell as the uttter nonsense spews, the one person who innately disgusts me 🤮

After watching your video, I didn't know you were the founder of Computer Literacy Bookstore chain. I used to work there during my college years. Great content as always to clear out the confusion on nutrition.

@PlantChompers

Жыл бұрын

Oh cool! Just to be clear, I bought Computer Literacy but wasn't the founder.

I'd rather have a wheat belly than an iron-impaired brain. Fortunately, I have neither, as I eat a variety of whole plant foods.

Amazing job!

Brilliant! You are a great storyteller now, Chris! ;)

Appreciate your time and effort in putting out these interesting and informative videos. Where can we find references to the old Chinese nutritionist Zanjil?

*Thank you!* 👍 #BoycottMeat and all other animal products of cruelty and exploitation in any way possible!

I watch your channel regularly as I enjoy hearing a counter-argument to the low carb hypothesis. However, in this video you employ the 1957 Yerushalmy and Hilleboe paper in support of Keys. You simply cannot use that paper in this way. Jacob Yerushalmy, the founder of the Biostatistics Department at the University of California, and the New York State Commissioner of Health, Herman E Hilleboe, who had become concerned that Keys’ hypothesis had been presented as a proven fact in a 1955 conference. Presenting their concerns in April 1957, they pointed out that: "As no information is given by Keys on how or why the six countries were selected, it is necessary to investigate the association between dietary fat and heart disease mortality in all countries for which information is available." Demonstrating that while the data showed a nice straight line illustrating higher levels of heart attacks in countries that ate higher amounts of fat, it inconveniently ignored another 16 countries that didn’t show such a neat correlation. They pointed out that hypothesis-challenging paradoxes existed in France, Switzerland, West Germany, Sweden, Norway, and Denmark. Concluding that the diet-heart hypothesis “cannot at the present time be accepted as valid” they challenged Keys to represent the data in a more methodologically rigorous fashion. At the end of their analysis, they concluded that: “the apparent association [between heart disease and dietary fat] is greatly reduced when tested on all countries” “the basic data are subject to considerable limitations” other criteria, such as “when animal protein is substituted for fat” have higher associations with heart disease “the suggested association between national death rates from heart disease and percentage of fat in the diet available for consumption cannot at the present time be accepted as valid” Conclusion five reinforces the entire point of the paper, that Keys simply had not been methodologically rigorous and that he needed to “report the basis on which the primary data were selected, their limitations, any qualifying conditions or considerations, and the method used for testing the validity of the results." For those untrained in academic language, it is basically saying that the methodology is so erroneous and lacks so much rigour that Keys needed to start all over again. Dr Henry Blackburn writes about this incident on his University of Minnesota blog. On it, Dr Blackburn describes the original 1957 critique of Keys’ work by Yerushalmy and Hilleboe as “authoritative, pedantic, and patronising”, full of “seriously embarrassing criticisms” that were “painful for Keys” who felt “scolded like a school child.” When interviewed by Nina Teicholz (whom I know you don't trust), Dr Blackburn said “[Keys] got up from being knocked around and said, ‘I’ll show those guys.’” A few short months later, in the fall of 1957, backed by a US Public Health Services grant of $200,000 per year, Keys piloted his next nutritional project, the Seven Countries Study, with the aim of firmly proving himself correct. Trying to prove yourself correct is bad science. Trying to falsify is good science. He basically ignored the critiques and carried on anyway. --- As for the Mediterranean Diet, I'd agree that it is a pretty good one. Good fats, protein and few simple carbs. But Keys' promotion of the Mediterranean Diet is not his only legacy. You have to address the 1977 McGovern governmental policy changes that resulted in the systemic transformation of food production, which, following Keys' hypothesis, resulted in fats being removed from processed foods and replaced with sugar, and the longer-term impact of Keys' later interpretation of his data of polyunsaturated fats good - saturated fats bad, which has resulted in the standard US diet having a 1:14 - 1:24 ratio of Omega-3:Omega-6 fatty acids. The average American consumes the equivalent of the oil found in 98-196 ears of corn every single day. I'm pretty certain you'll agree that all the added sugar is bad, although I'm not sure what you'll think about the seed oils, so I'll leave you with a question. We have never been able to consume this much Omega-6 prior to the industrialised production of "heart healthy" seed oils as a direct result of Keys' impact on governmental nutrition policy. What might a massive overconsumption of a previously difficult to consume fat be doing to us? Thanks for reading.

@tamcon72

Жыл бұрын

People have been eating seed oils for thousands of years, so I assume the rest of your comment is not fact-based, either.

@PlantChompers

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for this very thoughtful post. It came in last night just as I was heading for bed and had just read a critique of the episode from Henry. You might be interested in what he said: Your latest production is great, Chris. One small point where you can help educate the masses AND the journalists, AND the lab scientists and clinicians who misuse population comparisons: You say "the "increase" in sat. fat increases the attack rate. The greater sat fat intake in the 50-year SCS graph didn't "Increase" the CHD rates." Rather, the rates were higher the greater the proportion of Sat Fat cals. OR, The heart attack rate "follows" the Sat Fat consumption, or goes hand in hand with. Henry and I have talked about the 1957 Yerushalmy paper and he (and you) are able to take it more seriously than I have been able to. I can see why to Henry and Ancel it was a big concern because they were recruiting scientists and funding for the Seven Countries Study. Ancel already had a larger than life reputation which was helping in the study organization, and here come two guys writing about him as if he didn't know basic science. The reason I have trouble taking it seriously is it was just a low effort thing any college student could do, grabbing shaky data from FAO and then torturing it from at least Mexico, France, Chile and what is now Sri Lanka, to guess what should have been reported but wasn't. And then doing simple correlation coefficients and graphs. It's just terrible and not something Ancel could have done without losing credibility. At least he used data from more reliable countries like Canada, Australia and England, but even then it was terrible data. He and Margaret had been out in the field actually collecting data in different countries for years. And he didn't design the study to prove his hypothesis. That was a line that Nina just made up, like she has so many others. He chose outlier countries that challenged his hypothesis like The Netherlands and Greece. He chose the majority of cohorts blindly without any data from them to support his hypothesis. In the history of science, guys like Yerushalmy have come along to challenge the Richard Dolls, James Hansens, Lous Pasteurs, etc. In the case of Yerushalmy and Hilleboe, they didn't even try to reference actual human data, which was available to them at the time.

@blaccrichard

Жыл бұрын

@@tamcon72, not in industrial quantities they haven't. It's not the poison that kills you, but the dose. We couldn't extract seed oils in edible form from a huge variety of plants until the late 1800s. Even now, it takes huge factories and multiple processes to do. We simply couldn't have eaten such quantities of seed oil for thousands of years. It was a technological impossibility. I'm not arguing that the PUFAs in seeds are bad for you, per se. They are clearly essential for human wellbeing. But at the level we eat them now?

@blaccrichard

Жыл бұрын

@@PlantChompers Thanks for your equally in-depth reply, Chris. If only social media could always be like this. It doesn't assuage my doubts, though. I'm not a methodologist. In fact, I find statistical-oriented methodology mind-numbing. However, having read the Yerushalmy and Hilleboe paper a few times, I don't think it's fair or scientific to characterise it as "low grade effort". Yerushalmy was significant in the field of Biostatistics and clearly had serious worries about the rigour of Keys' methodology, and Hilleboe was concerned about the potential impact of unsubstantiated research on future health policy. That Keys had already begun gathering funding for the Seven Countries Study just makes the concerns more legitimate. I don't think Keys did anything to counter the methodology argument by choosing a few different countries to study. The crux of the argument that choosing only a few was bad science when there was data available on twenty-two. He repeated exactly what they had accused him of doing. Your very last paragraph is fascinating. My initial interest in Keys relates to ideas in my academic discipline - leadership and organisational behaviour. For me, and I use him this way when I teach, Keys is a perfect example of Thomas Carlyle's Great Man leader. This has four dimensions. - peculiar genius (diet-heart hypothesis) - will to power (AHA and policy impact) - ruthless persuasiveness (the dismissal we are chatting about, plus a good few others) - a world desiring transformation (the US after the Eisenhower heart attack) You seem to have positioned him this way yourself, although I imagine you might object a little to the middle two bullets. Driving to the heart of this, we have the human data argument, which is central to Keys' hypothesis. Does it still hold today? My interest in the counter-argument to Keys that rages in different forms around social media is that it is so transdisciplinary in nature, with researchers from multiple sciences, a range of medical specialists, some investigative journalists and some lay thinkers. Plus, some dodgy loud mouths that can be painful to listen to. For me, transdisciplinary collaborative clusters are, and have always been, the core of good leadership and progressive research. I think these clusters have, at best, disproved Keys' hypothesis and, at worst, offered plausible alternative explanations that are worthy of further study and analysis. But that's difficult to do. I know that you tend to characterise people in this cluster as being self-interested and funded by industry, whereas scientists working in academia are pure of heart and mind. I'm sure some of them in both camps will fit these descriptions. However, I don't think you appreciate the funding mechanisms in university research. If you don't publish in Tier One journals, you don't get promoted and have no hope of tenure. To get published in such journals, you need to follow the dominant narrative. Anything radical or contrary gets crushed. As you know, both Professor Tim Noakes and Dr Gary Fettke were hauled in front of disciplinary committees for daring to question the prevailing wisdom. From a leadership / sociology of science perspective, I'd suggest a plausible counter narrative relates to university research being embedded in the systematic policy changes underpinned by Keys' findings and influence, with behaviours incentivised to continue to support this perspective. Few people in the system will be aware of this embeddedness. Even fewer will be willing to entertain the idea that they might have been wrong their entire careers. I'd suggest that there are a number of avenues of research that would sort this mess out. 1. Untangle the ethics from the bio-nutritional - if we remove ethical concerns about current animal farming practice (which is horrific) and planetary health (your field), can we determine the type of diet that helps humans most flourish (animal + plant, fish + plant, only plant (and which plants)?), and then move forward from there? Note that a good outcome is not going to be allocentric diets, but idiocentric ones. 2. Untangle the epidemiology from the biochemical - do we understand the biochemical pathways and outcomes relating to the various macro and micronutrients well enough to discard many of the associations suggested by population data, and if so, what remains? If you haven't listened to Professor Robert Lustig's nuanced explanations of LDL cholesterol and the impact of fat and sugar on its different types, I heartily recommend it as it exemplifies the type of thinking that is needed. 3. Sniff out the money - the meat, dairy and egg industries, the ultra-processed food industry, the statins branch (and more) of Big Pharma, the medical establishment, and the university funding system, and make sure it isn't impacting the ethical, bio-nutritional, biochemical and epidemiological arguments or data. Until this is done, we don't know who and what to trust. Thanks again for reading. It's been a delight to have the opportunity for rigorous debate on a social media platform.

@user-nz4un6se7y

11 ай бұрын

@@tamcon72 wrong

I hate studies that go off of peoples memory. All validity goes out the window

I am still hoping you’ll do a video on Calcium and vegan diets, but this one was good. I watched it twice. Sadly, we get taken for joy ride in social media at the expense of our health. Thanks for telling us how to to see what’s driving that trend.

@PlantChompers

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, April. The curious thing to me is why America is particularly susceptible to the joyride. But that is above my pay grade.

@apriljohnson6191

Жыл бұрын

@@PlantChompers unfortunately I think the answer is simple - education. We don’t have the scientific education to the level of other countries. Industries and corporations exploit that ignorance to their profit and our loss. I remember the late 70’s/early 80’s bumper sticker, “If you think education is expensive, you should try ignorance.” I think we’re seeing the results of that. I have hope for some of the next generation, but not enough to see everyone survive. Kind of depressing - off to look at cute animal videos now.

@someguy2135

Жыл бұрын

@@PlantChompers I am guessing that American public schools need to teach critical thinking schools more often. I was taught those skills in high school in the 1970's, but I suspect that I was in the minority..

Obesity is caused by low grade chronic inflammation - saturated animal fat (from milk and cheese) does play a part, but only a part, in my belief. As brilliantly stated, it is a matter of how much is enough and when it is too much.