You need some AR coating on your glasses, my man.

@lukedemello2077

4 жыл бұрын

He can't afford frivolous expenses like that! And YOU can't afford to criticize Austin the chick magnet.

@spacebjorn

4 жыл бұрын

non-ar coating is to match the rolex

this is better than a Daytona, in fact I am more interested in Omega as they simply do more interesting releases.

Great video Austin. Love this watch, but not for $14K.

This is a great watch. Worth the money. Going head on with Rolex and even more for the purist - manual wind and no ugly date window cyclopse . They are hand building this by one person. Nice video mate

This was the exact assessment all the other watch KZreadrs were missing. Thank you. Lets just see how it plays out

I think it’s a beautiful looking watch, and the price isn’t a concern to some people, so it will very quickly generate a waiting list . It’s worth what someone is prepared to pay .

Interesting analysis Austin. I guess the answer to the “is it worth it?” question is driven by whether or not you’re specifically into the brand. This watch is one for the serious collector and/or specific Omega enthusiast for whom the 321 movement in a contemporary steel piece is something with historical significance, long awaited and therefore very desirable, so they’ll pay that hefty price tag. Would a die-hard Rolex fanboy feel the same way? Probably not (and understandably so) and to be fair the equally die-hard Omega fanboys probably aren’t paying the inflated prices Daytona’s are attracting these days either. As to whether or not it’ll hold its financial value, that depends, as you rightly say, on how available Omega decide to make this piece. For what it’s worth I suspect you’re right in suspecting that this is, in part at any rate, a prestige play with the Daytona on the other side of the equation, so I think Omega will keep the 321 fairly exclusive in order to avoid grey market discounting. But, when all’s said and done, it’s a quality watch which would grace any serious collection.

@watchsymposium

4 жыл бұрын

Good analysis!

Totally agree with your philosophy as long as they don’t get greedy

Well, the Rolex fanboys are out in force poopooing Omega. Predictable. No one is forcing you to buy one. For me, it’s a great alternative to buying a vintage model of dubious origin and history. As Daniel says, vintage watches can be a ticking time bomb. With this you get a modern product with all the looks of the vintage watch. What’s not to like? Oh, and by the way, it’s not false patina on the lume, the original 105.003 lume had that tint.

I own the original Pre-Moon Speedmaster 321...My precious...

Investment potential: none despite making 2,000 a year only, as Omega will eventually roll out the 321 to other Speedy's if this one is a success, and it will be. It is however an interesting addition from an enthusiast perspective, being the first 321 movement in a steel reissue of a FOIS piece. It's undeniably an exciting time and promising direction for Omega. I'm pleased for the brand and the community . Would I buy one? No, I'd wait for a 321 steel Moonwatch in 42mm reasonably price i. e. 5 grand tops. I can make do with the 1861 Moonwatch if I really need to scratch that Speedy Pro space mission itch, which I don't at the moment. I'm currently enjoying the latest Racing 44 focused on the pre NASA racing heritage of the Speedy. But that's me. I'm sure this Ed White will sell out and rightfully so. Well done Omega.

@yooseemotoringchannel3357

3 жыл бұрын

You’ll be waiting forever my friend. 321 speedy will never be selling at 5k. And 2000 piece isn’t even all steel.

@ksrsukku

Жыл бұрын

5grand top? You’ll never be able to get any omega for that price. That’s Oris pricing.

@Nexus.Achiles

Жыл бұрын

@@ksrsukku Talking preowned price. The Racing 44 cost me 3500 euros on C24 in 2019.

I wouldn’t speculate on increasing prices. If you love it, then buy it, if your don’t, then flip it. However, some Omegas have a way of growing bland on people too.

Omega can be like Rolex if they want..is very simple.. vanish out the omega sports model out of the store. Create fake waitlist.

@spacebjorn

4 жыл бұрын

except the market is already flooded with speedmaster pro and a million limited edition variations. no thx jefferson the waitlist can be 1000 years still not going to buy one

May be the case with this piece but that’s one compared to the range of Rolex’s pieces that are currently unattainable at the moment....price wise it’s tough to swallow but as long as Rolex SS continue to make a no show in those display cases then it may be a great alternative. Nice vid Austin keep it up!

I thought I was dreaming when this got released on the omega site

Last year I purchased the Speedmaster Mark II from my AD for a great price. But this new model? It doesn't even appear to be chronometer certified.

I'd buy one or if the platinum version at a steep discount.

I understand that the movement is hand assembled if this is true, it will be hard to flood the market. I agree the price is high. Waiting lists may be the norm for this one piece, though because of limited production. I do agree, I'd rather have a more robust Daytona,but I've tried that for a couple of years and it's not happening any time soon, so who knows, I might just go down to the AD and buy one.

Give it two years and this will be 35% off through the usual grey channels. Omega just cannot help themselves every year launching "limited" edition models and the 321 mechanism will be stretched just like all other models and lines. There is absolutely no chance this will be a watch at a premium and flippable.

@achimkohlhage1328

4 жыл бұрын

Absolutely, even faster...

@mrp9498

4 жыл бұрын

Horace Phistbump For sure.

@dirkworld

4 жыл бұрын

Nope this was their ace in the hole. They will NOT make it widely available and all the fanboys will pay though the nose for it. This is the 321. everyone wants that. As if a daytona is worth 20k. No its because you CANT get them. Omega has to hold back production like rolex does. They don't need the money they're a charity and pay no tax. they don't have to earn like every other watch brand. Omega is in a good position if they don't f it up.

@yooseemotoringchannel3357

3 жыл бұрын

This movement is handmade by one person. They can’t even produce it at mass quantities. The watch is already selling above and 18k on secondary market lol

@Mega-zi7ys

Жыл бұрын

2 yrs hence is the 321 35% off?🤣

The new Speedy Ed White will have limited availability due to Omegas manufacturing method where each movement will be assembled by one watchmaker who can only complete two a day. I understand that currently, there are only 6 Omega techs qualified to assemble the movement...that limits production to 3120 units a year (assuming no time off).

I like the watch but would not pay that sum of dollars. I agree with your thoughts, Omega will sell this as premium speedy. Will they put the cal 321 into the prof case? I bet they will, but not so soon...maybe 2 to 3 years downthe road.

Austin, I think you are right about limited production numbers. The Omega marketing speaks to there being a special, dedicated workshop for these movements where the watch makers are focused on complete assembly of a timepiece including the watch head and bracelet. This suggests no mass manufacturing, but special, hand built timepieces in a small workshop. I am betting that Omega uses this as an excuse to produce low numbers, create an air of exclusivity, and thus drive up demand. They can blame the low supply easily on the exacting work that goes into the manufacture in this dedicated workshop. Sounds like a really special movement and watch, doesn't it? I don't buy the hype though, especially at $14K. Buy as an investment on speculation? No thanks, high risk here IMHO.

@watchsymposium

4 жыл бұрын

Very interesting...well, that will certainly justify the price to some people. Still, I think the components will be mass produced, just not the assembly. But then aren't all mechanical assemblies done by hand? Anyway, it looks good on paper and that'll be good enough for some.

@Portland_Living_Life

4 жыл бұрын

@@watchsymposium I don't know that the 321 movement or components will be mass produced, so as to maintain that allure of exclusivity. The business model that I am thinking of is what Montblanc does. Most of their models are moderately priced and mass produced. However, their high end models are hand made in a small workshop they bought some years ago from Minerva. The care and craftsmanship that goes into building the Minerva movements is what MB uses to justify their higher prices, and rightfully so. I believe the 321 workshop will be to Omega what Minerva is to Montblanc.

What? No Rolex? Call paramedics

A brand new fully hand made movement, gold plated, WITH A 321. One watchmaker assembles the entire watch! Yes it’s priced the same as the Daytona, why wouldn’t it be? These won’t be mass market I heard they can make 40 a day.

@neoLover23

4 жыл бұрын

What we are seeing in the industry is that all the manufacturers who want to be in the race are raising prices, trying to close the gap between themselves and Rolex. Look the Rolex supply chain has left a lot of money on the table and people want to grab that money. In the next few years some of these companies will either be able to keep up or will have to drop out of the race.

@neoLover23

4 жыл бұрын

The market will obviously determine the prices people are willing to spend. But If people hold back and keep trying for a Rolex in lieu of other purchases it will further propel Rolex up the food chain. If people are fine buying other watches we will continue to see prices increase across all brands. For example more $8k oris watches or $10k grand seiko or $15k steel omega.

@neoLover23

4 жыл бұрын

I think 2019 - 2021 will be the years that redefine the watch market - some people will lose badly. One good point is that $500 micro brands will continue to flood the market and do well.

@neoLover23

4 жыл бұрын

Of course, that’s only good news if you are happy with mega quartz, stp, myota movements

Never heard of AR lens coating?

Fyi check out Rolex forum...many seasoned Rolex owners bought and enjoy this. It's like a 911 Singer Porsche.

You can build a 4 piece Omega collection, mostly used, but good stuff for the price of this watch. No I would not pay that much for any Omega in steel

Make a video on Carlos Ghosn

How much then?

Let's be clear, this is NOT a limited addition. It's a low volume production piece that's hand made. At the end of the day it's for movement geeks/snobs. It will sell out and hold it's value but it's no Daytona. Just get a Speedmaster and save your money. As we have said so many times. Most people don't even notice your watch much less care what makes it tick. Final point it's not chronometer certified does meant it's not going to be accurate but at that price it better be.

For some reason I am turned off modern Omega. I do however love vintage Omega from the 1960's. Many are not as fragile as you might think. Very affordable, serviceable and wearable.

@lukedemello2077

4 жыл бұрын

I'm cheap like that too!

My gripe about Omega is how thick those watches are-maybe Omega doesn’t care... as Omega doesn’t even publish watch thickness measurement for its models (though it does publish lug width?!?), and one way they can screw it up is to make it too thick. Their latest SMP 300 is thick AF. Now I get it that it’s co-axial but their non-co-axial Speedmaster Trilogy ‘57 had a thickness of 14mm for a case size of only 38.6mm. It’s crazy to release a watch with such disproportionate measurements. As JC Biver said: “Thin is luxury.” Omega has some work to do

@watchsymposium

4 жыл бұрын

Good point! I'm not into overly thick watches either; one of the reasons I like the Tudor Hydronaught and was disappointed by the Tudor GMT.

@Portland_Living_Life

4 жыл бұрын

I am with you 100%. I do have the moon watch and think it wears well, but the current Omega Seamaster collection is just stupidly thick. I have been looking though at some older, pre-coaxial watches and they were reasonably thin and can be purchased super cheap when compared to pre-owned Rolex. I just haven't been able to warm up to the designs quite yet...

I've dumped my two Daytona's due to poor legibility. The Daytona's chrono function is practically useless due to the dial design. Nothing more than wrist jewelry. The Speedmaster has always had legible dials...a true tool-watch.

@Mega-zi7ys

Жыл бұрын

Exactly! The best Daytona's are.the vintage panda's!

@jjlad5037

Жыл бұрын

@@Mega-zi7ys ...Agreed.

There will be no Speedmaster professional in steel with cal 321

Nice watch. Beautiful watch. Just aesthetics-wise, nicer than the standard speedmaster? Yes, I think so. However, this is a rich man's speedy. It has exclusivity in its DNA and that's where it loses it coolness. If you've got the money for this you can buy a regular speedy, and a Rolex oyster perpetual, which is exactly what I would do.

Anyone that ever bought the Speedmaster trilogy chrono is regretting it deeply. Though they paid only half for not having the 321. Too much hype.

daytona any day for me

@The_real_Mr_Ghost

4 жыл бұрын

yes of course. not even comparable!

I dont want to hear from no one who dont physically have the watch in hand. ✌🏽

Cheese is Rolex !

You've got to be joking right? 14K?? Are Omega playing the Rolex game now.

4:40. Way to go out on a limb.....

At that price going to sell out, an Omega at Rolex price? How to break the Rolex hype, no matter Omega tries. Vry doubtfull.

I think Omega should have priced it at around the 10K mark, also,, I share with you the majority of the market is going to be made up of the quick buck flipper and the connoseour wanting the vintage looking piece without the nuances of a real vintage

Think they played the wrong game here. People who have that kind of money for a watch will b going for a daytona.. pple who want a speedmaster, will get a cheaper or lesser one. The price segment is wrong and they have far too many limited editions. The question is: will they limit the production even when theres not many pple buying? Its not 5 or 10k usd. Its 14k usd.

I just can't justify spending $14k on an Omega moonwatch. What happens if you need to sell it a year or two from now due to a family emergency? You'll be lucky if you can get back half of it's value. You'll be better off getting a used Rolex Hulk for $14k.

Nice watch but this will not compete against a Daytona in the grey market

Everyone I talked with had two things to say: About time. Way too expensive.

@mrp9498

4 жыл бұрын

It's Time Yes sir!

With that price, more reason to go Rolex! Thanks Omega! :D

$14000???? Shit! It is not worth the money. Simples! It competes with the Daytona in price only. I’d like one , at half that price maybe even less? Yes.

Is it worth it.... no of course it’s not!!! The only thing that is nice is the chrome bezel....... but you can’t even hack this movement

Jeez, it seems like every week there’s another Speedmaster released. This one looks beautiful, but man, that price is far too prohibitive for me. I’m sure they’ll be a hit with the diehard Speedy fans, though.

Paul Thorpe claims the manufacturers know who the flippers are so if the allocations favor these flippers we will know Omega wants to do the Rolex thing. ADs that also sell used will favor flippers so they can sell the watch multiple times, making profits are each cycle. I might buy it new but I’d rather die and go to hell than buy it from those pirates.

This is good for Rolex! While Omega is flooding the market with all these watches that are in my opinion basically just a ”homage” to themselfes that should stay in the $4000 range, Rolex is staying with their simple core models and producing 800.000 watches per year that people actually wants!

It is a hugely expensive watch. I think the price is silly.

@Mega-zi7ys

Жыл бұрын

Check out Rolex forum and see what those guys are saying... they're buying em

@Teachering

Жыл бұрын

@@Mega-zi7ys Hello J L Thank you for your comment. Two years ago I thought this watch to be costly. In Canada where I live, the Omega Speedmaster 321 now sells for just under 20,000 dollars. I think that it is a beautiful watch, no question about it; but is beyond the reach of poor fellows such as I.

@Mega-zi7ys

Жыл бұрын

@@Teachering ahhh hahaha yeah that's same for everyone! But really wishing u the best and hopefully you get your grail. But at whenever level you are right now, "enjoy the ride"... there are so many things that bring us joy! Wishing you the best 🙂

@Teachering

Жыл бұрын

@@Mega-zi7ys You are very kind, J L. So nice reading your comment.

@Mega-zi7ys

Жыл бұрын

@@Teachering you'd be surprised at how the "cheaper" things many times bring the most joys. Many expensive "toys" (watches irregardless of brands are really just toys, they just use marketing gimmickry to say they're "investments") will bring only rhe the same level of satisfaction after the novelty wears off. Not kidding... it's true. Especially when it's time to service them which nobody will tell you. 😁 Have many friends who've sworn off these haute horologie brands after horrid experiences with service after service, but you will never hear them publicly bec they're afraid of destroying the resale prices.😄 I personally introduced and negotiated for a discount for a friend few yrs back for a high end piece that broke down after 4mos..😁 felt really embarrassed as I was the one who introduced him to the brand and AD!😄 .. simple joys are pure and real. Again best of everything to you . Best regards.

They screwed it up, but not the way you described. They priced it WAY too high, and limited production TOO much, with their "single watchmaker'" gimmick. First, they should've made it (321) a standard-production movement. They could offer it (321) in this pre-Moon case (which I like) AND a Speedmaster Professional Moonwatch case (which I also like). They could stay with the domed sapphire crystal, (and/or the spec-accurate Hesalite crystal, wouldn't matter), clear case back, ceramic bezel and vintage bracelet (ideally with their quick-adjust feature added to the clasp). They could've also provided a really nice stainless steel case back for swapping out, at additional cost, or as part of the package, and price the watch at $6,500 to $8,500 USD, depending. Had they done that, they would've had every Speedy owner, collector and first-time-buyer lining up around the CITY, not the block, to get one. It's really a shame.

It’s pronounced Ho-mage.

@watchsymposium

4 жыл бұрын

Is that not what I said?

The snoopy is still more desirable

Way too expensive, at the end of the day it’s still an omega,, it’s trying to punch above it’s weight

@mrp9498

4 жыл бұрын

steve For craftsmanship it punches very well. But not collectibility wise and value retention.

Price is ridiculous. Like if Rolex had been selling 5000 different Submariner models and suddenly more than doubled the price for an almost identical model.

@Mega-zi7ys

Жыл бұрын

Ha check out Rolex forum and see how many seasoned Rolex owners are buying this!

Omega damage their brand by not being conservative enough. Every little Rolex change feels significant.

They blew it with the size !!!!! This watch needed to be a 42 heck even a 41mm , also a Speedmaster with an exhibition window ? Pleeeease NOooooo !

Omega doin' what they do best: fuckin' Omega owners/collectors by releasing a new Speedmaster every 4 months or so 😂😂 How many Speedmasters they released in the last 12 months? 4 models? 😆

You mentioned this watch as one of Omegas “nuclear options “ -they know what we want but boy you are going to pay 💰!! I think Omega spent more time on the marketing scenario than the watch and this sort of 🇨🇭 Swiss phucery really turns me off the brand!!

i would never pay more than 5-6k for the Speedmaster! not worth more

@BL-hj7hi

4 жыл бұрын

Tiger M okay. Others will though

Cut off that dirty scruff, Austin.

@mrp9498

4 жыл бұрын

Alexander He looks good 🧔🏻

I have 321 50 years old! You really think that you gonna make money in Rolex ! Disturbed Rolex fan ! I The swatch group dwarfs Rolex by several billions. Not trying to hurt your feelings ! It is Sedna gold alloy . Don’t buy omegas.

Dislike the fake patina.

@The_real_Mr_Ghost

4 жыл бұрын

the new 123 is fake, so the Patina must be fake to then.

Not interested in this watch. For that money I’d rather have the Titanium Sedna Seamaster. Actually I think that watch is less expensive than this watch.

Hahaha an opinion from a rolex fanboy! You cannot deny it sir...this watch went to the moon... and your rolex daytona failed....sorry...✌🏻✌🏻✌🏻

@watchsymposium

4 жыл бұрын

www.rolexmagazine.com/2008/06/apollo-14-rolex-story.html www.rolexmagazine.com/2008/06/rolex-moon-watches-apollo-xiii-story.html

@johntimber3999

4 жыл бұрын

Austin Daniels not an official nasa watch.....rolex daytona failed...

@Mega-zi7ys

Жыл бұрын

Check out Rolex forum..hahaha many seasoned Rolex owners actually bought this!

From the comments I can honestly say that Omega fans so cheap. I’m ashamed to own an Omega to be honest.