PC Centric lost me a while ago. He was testing cpus at 4k with DLSS and when I asked him why he doesn't benchmark at 1080 instead because that's when the cpu is actually being pushed to it's limit his response was that nobody is going to use a 4090 at 1080p and without dlss. He uses real world scenarios. Aka he is utterly clueless and should not be trusted as a subject matter expert.

@nemesis8664

Жыл бұрын

I'm using a 4090 at 1080p without DLSS, bot even HDR. Guess that would break PC Centric's little mind. Why I'm playng games like that? Cause I'm too lazy to purchase a new 4k 32" monitor. Yeah, I know it's something dumb.

@GloriousKev

Жыл бұрын

@@nemesis8664 I can't imagine how broken your experience is right now. I have a 7900 XT and tried it on a 1080p ultra wide monitor and it was just bottleneck city for my CPU without upscaling. It might be time to grab a new display bro. You're not getting the performance you paid for unless it's a high refresh display.

@NathanSF-qr2ds

Жыл бұрын

​@@nemesis8664at least you get to max out any game at Ultra graphics with super high framerates 😁

@brandonadam1665

2 ай бұрын

You guys are getting 40 series?

I'm a patient gamer. Got GTA V for free by being patient. Steam sales FTW. Delayed releases mean nothing to me.

@Raven.Bloodrot

Жыл бұрын

This is the way

@Lunarwingluna

11 ай бұрын

I used to not be as patient, but with the giant backlogs I have now on all my consoles and emulators, I started to buy in to the waiting game as I got older. I got Final Fantasy VII Remake for a pretty good discount not even 6 months after launch simply because I didn't believe the hype. Ironically, it became my favorite PlayStation game of the generation, so I should have believed the hype, but either way I got an amazing experience for a good price. Other people got it for free a year later because of PS plus. No amount of pre-order bonuses and hype can make doubt the power patience again. if I am buying it day one at this point, I have to be super committed to the game already, or I've been waiting years for it.

@Kringey1

5 ай бұрын

Last game i bought at full price was god of war ragnarok when it was released on ps5 everything from then on out has been on sale i bought 7 games on steam for $108 durint the winter sale on steam, games become so much cheaper than any other platform here 😂

@darthwiizius

2 ай бұрын

Sales and Humble Bundles are where I spend cash, Epic though has given me an obscene amount of free games. My Games library is better than Gamepass's.

@darthwiizius

2 ай бұрын

@@Kringey1 I got 7 Bandai games from Humble Bundle for £8.22, then 12 WB games about a month later from them for £12 something. I can't remember the last game I bought for full price, it was either on the PS3 or 360, probably the latter, 12 or more years ago. The thing is back then in the UK you could buy pretty much all new AAA releases on launch with 1/3 off because the supermarkets were in a heavy price war for many years, they had the financial clout and sales levels to bully even MS and Sony.

Remember, PC Centric is the same guy that had to delete one of his videos regarding the Steam Deck because he misunderstood the whole point of the device.

Guy lost me when he said that there are millions of configurations for PC and it is harder for developers to develop for it. Um every game, every GPU uses Microsoft Direct X on PC.

@QuartzRoolz

Жыл бұрын

yeah the only difference that can be experienced in that regard is Operating system (I beleive, I dont use linux but I would imagine that you cant use a microsoft driver on linux) but even then thats slowly being solved through compatability layers like proton. People see hundreds of different parts and configurations and assume everything works completly differently between GPUs, when fundamentally they all just do the same things to different degrees. Yes Some GPUs are speced for Animation Rendering while others are speced for gaming but at the end of the day a GPU is a GPU and they all work pretty similarly.

@trulycursed-_-2356

Жыл бұрын

I am new to pc gaming and I was confused when he said this. The closest things I can think of is this is when developers give minimum specs recommendation for their games

@rewpertcone8243

Жыл бұрын

This is a factually incorrect statement, ask literally any game developer and they will tell you developing for console is easier, that's why we have bad pc ports, because its much easier to get 60fps on console then it is to optimize for tons of PC's

@QuartzRoolz

Жыл бұрын

@@rewpertcone8243 uh huh sure buddy, how's that boot taste

@rewpertcone8243

Жыл бұрын

@QuartzRoolz dude I'm literally a pc gamer. I have a 5600x and a 6750xt. Okay, I'm just stating facts.

That analogy was *chefs kiss* Edit - Tactical nuclear strike vs a paper shredder.

I mean some of PC Cntric’s points are pretty valid. Although PC gaming is by far superior depending on your build, some people just don’t want to shell out $1000 or more to just play games which is okay. If you want to play on console, that’s fine. If you want to play on PC, that’s fine too. I really hate it when people get so ass blasted about a difference in opinion especially when it comes to gaming which really doesn’t matter at the end of the day.

@Xyler94

4 ай бұрын

If your goal is to ONLY play games, and literally nothing else, then yes. A console is better for that. The problem EVERY fucking one of these people forgets, is that a gaming PC can do way more than just play games. My PC runs 3 separate duties. 1 - It's my primary gaming machine 2 - It has a VM to run my work stuff 3 - I do 3D animation on my PC as a hobby. 2 of those 3 things a console can never do. If I want a gaming machine and a work one, now I gotta buy 2 separate machines. Increasing the overall cost anyways. Then, if I want to get into other hobbies that require graphical horsepower other than gaming, like 3D animation... guess what, I might as well just buy a PC for gaming!! I get that the argument is "for gaming", but that severely undermines PC's greatest advantage... it is capable of SO much more than a console.

console vs PC is still a thing? Folks, its' 2023. We're not in the late 2000s anymore

"The PS5 is ugly" How dare you insult the President of Kaiba corp like that!

It disappointed me when PC centric made that video. But that’s what comes with trying to play the fair game when comparing Console and PC.

So when you don’t agree that new gen consoles are closer than ever to PC then what consoles are? The dynamic 1080p medium like settings 30fps PS4s with an hdd? That’s closer to PCs compared to a PS5 that run games at 4K/1440p medium-high to high like settings at 60fps to 120fps in most games while having an ssd? Also the 30fps modes are mainly for resolution while you still get good graphical fidelity in performance mode for many games so 30fps isn’t the standard for new gen, I would say 60fps is even tho most games go higher with 120hz mode unlocked frame rate.

@woldemunster9244

11 күн бұрын

I play DMC5 maxxed out @ 4K 60fps locked on my tv OR 1440p 120fps on my monitor. My gpu is RX 6700, i bought it for 380€. No dynamic resolution or dropping settings required. :D

Gaming have never been so cheap after i abandoned consoles and went to PC.

@plottipaa_hauki95

Жыл бұрын

I just got whole Yakuza main line for 34€

@fariedradityo137

4 ай бұрын

​@@plottipaa_hauki95 same bro i also got the dark souls trilogy for only $50

@mohamedabdelazim5788

19 күн бұрын

@@plottipaa_hauki95but do you actually own it since it’s a digital game ?

@SouthernRebels94

19 күн бұрын

​​@@mohamedabdelazim5788if it's digital you don't actually own it as the company you bought the digital game from can take back the game when ever they feel like it it's even tells you this in fine print. The only games you actually own are ether on disk or cartridge.

most PC gamers were originally CONSOLE gamers so anybody saying PC is too complicated for console people is sounding silly right now.

During the mining epidemic and the shortages, people were arguing consoles were a better deal because graphics cards were too expensive. But consoles were also impossible to find and PS5 were sold for 700+$. You could argue that you could find a console at MSRP, but if you was fast enough you could also get a 3080 at MSRP. And a 3080 with a ryzen 5 atomizes the consoles. 2 years later, the consoles are on their knees, after 3 60fps launches.

@slamshift6927

Жыл бұрын

Got mine for MSRP at retail. Sounds like a skill issue tbh

@rharvier

Жыл бұрын

I also bought my 3080 12 gb at retail. Newegg lottery pulled though for me.

@gamingcomputers7485

6 ай бұрын

Lol consoles like the ps5 were costing especially at launch at price tag which eqavalent to 4090's msrp i remember it was in around end of 2020 i think

PC and Consoles are closer than ever but I will somehow be playing Starfield at more than a locked 30 FPS.

@dannyhe8281

2 ай бұрын

now you get it,unlock frame rate in performance mode

I have both and must say that I prefer the PS5 most of the time

The barrier to entry on PC is not a thing we all have laptops and computers even if everyone doesn't use it for gaming making that transition isn't that hard. My friend who primarily played on PlayStation recently bought his gaming PC and outside of a few questions about ram and setting up his controller he had no problems making the switch.

@KINGOFDUBSOFFICIAL

Жыл бұрын

It is a thing, most peoples computers aren’t made to mod like that and it’s very under powered for gaming. Most parts are soldered on or glued and you’ll need a new power supply and other stuff to upgrade which would require lots of research and way more money than a console of equal performance

@Goon-xt6wk

Жыл бұрын

@@KINGOFDUBSOFFICIAL the guy in the video was trying to make it seem like PC’s are vastly more confusing to use but the point I was making is that people already use computers for everyday things with ease why would gaming be any different I didn’t say they could play games on those same machines but if they decided to switch to an actual gaming rig like the example I gave it’s not that crazy of a leap your still using a computer just one that can run your steam games better then a laptop would. The same laptop I had in college to right essays was the same machine I used to play my steam games on doesn’t have to be a $1500 rig right out the gate

@KINGOFDUBSOFFICIAL

Жыл бұрын

@@Goon-xt6wk I think it just depends on the person because I never really used PCs for anything until I got a gaming PC and there are a lot more things you have to do for gaming compared to consoles like updating drivers and logging into multiple storefronts to play games as well as other applications like discord and maybe a screen recorder when everything is integrated onto one account on console and there’s only one update for the hardware that updates automatically when in rest mode

TL;DR: Played on consoles until recently and I knew PC was better even then. Once I got a PC I realized that consoles have a snowball's chance in hell to even compete with PC. I only got into PC-gaming in the last 3 years. But prior to that I knew PC had consoles beat, there was no question. There was a greater selection and they usually ran the games better (save a few bad ports). And then I got a PC. And then I realized just by how much the PC beat consoles. Not only are there more games and they run better then consoles. But they are cheaper on average, no subscriptions for online play, modding support, and upgrading is a little cheaper on the whole since you'll only be upgrading a single part or two instead of getting a whole new rig. With consoles you have to spend another $500+ for the new box that does some minor improvements and then wait for the next generation for the next upgrade.

Console gaming and pc gaming shouldn't be compared. They are for two different markets of people. Yes pc gaming is more powerful and has more freedom but it always Has issues with optimization and overpriced pc parts all the time. Console gaming is a good value for the price but has a ton of bad pay walls like pay to play online. Pay for subscriptions. And etc. So for the average user. Either use pc mid tier or use Console. There's no wrong choice here.

@kingjohn1011

Жыл бұрын

Both are different worlds to brotha.

@SherrifOfNottingham

Жыл бұрын

if you're concerned with price, PC is the way to go, period. All the people acting like the GPU craziness is normal when the reality is PC gaming is by equivalent standard, cheaper, especially when we consider that the price of games is cheaper. Not only could I buy a copy of starfield with a 20% discount already, it probably won't be long before steam will have a sale popping it down in price... A practice unheard of on console really, if you're not afraid of the internet piracy is an option for the financially struggling gamer, not an option for console gamers at all, with the hardware on average being cheaper (when we strap the price of the PC people use to get into arguments over which console is better to the price of the console you can easily find a PC that performs better on console games than the console). Not to mention that the steam deck shames them pretty good on most of the aspects people have a hardon for console (price and ease of use). "No wrong choice" is kind of misleading, which is the issue. If you are on a budget and need to save money, PC gaming is cheaper, console has that ease of use benefit but you definitely pay for that convenience, also the "issues with optimization" is one of those really stupid things people don't get. When devs say that games are "Optimized to run on X console" what they mean is THEY picked the quality settings that PC users get to tinker with, it's actually a different use of the word "optimized . "Optimization issues" which are usually brought up in reviews of a "bad port" are usually not the same as "optimized" on console, the issues could easily be on console... that's just developers making mistakes, and they do. Cyberpunk 2077 ran great on my "Xbox Equivalent" PC, it was much smoother and creamier gameplay on PC because the game was "poorly optimized" on console, and when it comes to "testing configurations" the fact is most gamers understand this has nothing to do with the developers, there's two processors (AMD and Intel) and three graphics cards (AMD, NVidia, Intel)... the developers have to work "so much harder" to incorporate basic compatibility with those sets of hardware, the hardware themselves are designed to be "plug and play" with any games that are coded really well (and an easy way to get it to work with Xbox and PC with basically no additional work is to make it run with DirectX). All the arguments you've heard are misinformation, PC's are cheaper, period, and PC's are really not that much harder to game on than console and most people have to learn windows as a part of their school education for the past 40 years so you're actually steps ahead than you were on console.

@ghostlegit

Жыл бұрын

@SherrifOfNottingham pcs are not cheaper that is a common misconception. They definitely are expensive but that expensive comes with a few goodies worth having. Yes steam sales. And pirating and etc but if u build a pc it will costs u a good 2 -3 every 5 years. For a console for 8 years. Ur spending about 1500. So there is a price difference

@V3ntilator

Жыл бұрын

@@SherrifOfNottingham I paid 2100$ for my PC in 2021. I already earned back all the money because games costs much less on PC than on consoles. People tend to ignore that you can play Xbox, PS4 and PS5 games on PC too. You can emulate Switch games at 4K/60 and whatever. It's an all in one box.

@V3ntilator

Жыл бұрын

@@ghostlegit To me PC is cheaper than consoles. It costed a fortune to buy games on Xbox, Sony and Nintendo consoles all the time as they cost way more than PC versions. 100% of Xbox games is on PC you don't pay much for them. Game Pass. Sony is porting games to PC left and right and their games drops very fast in price on PC vs console. PC also have 1000's of exclusives that is never coming to consoles. And there is all these bundles on PC. You get less than 1 year old AAA games in a 10$ game bundle on PC too.

He sounded so technology illiterate that I expect him to eat his keyboard keys thinking they're candy.

So why was 60 fps the standard back on ps2? What sparked the need to downgrade?

@plottipaa_hauki95

Жыл бұрын

Muh graphucs

@Wesmoen

Жыл бұрын

To be fair, PS2 also had plenty of 30fps games while other console ports were 60fps. Since 3D became a thing, low fps to 30fps was always nearby.

@luukherfst1209

Жыл бұрын

Since the ps3, sony was starting to focus more on higher resolution and better graphics and that ofcourse brings the fps down. That's why 30 fps is the standard now and 60 fps was the standard in the ps2 era.

My only issue with pc gaming is that my computer currently has like 8 different game launchers and it’s extremely frustrating. Especially when I own the game on steam but I still need the Ubisoft app to open. Or EA.

@Raven.Bloodrot

Жыл бұрын

It's definitely frustrating but it's certainly not really a downside.

@TheTiredhermit

5 ай бұрын

@@Raven.Bloodrotdefinitely a downside I saw people quit because of that

@SouthernRebels94

19 күн бұрын

Their is also a big Chance of buying a PC game then not being able to play it because the game is to outdated so it will not run on a newer windows, I had that problem I spent $80 dollars on a game from steam then as soon I went to play it I get a message saying that game is only compatible on a windows 7 and the description under steam never mention this little detail and the game was non-refundable then I paid $50 dollars for a different game just to catch a virus off of steam, I never had to paid so much money to play on console as all of my console games was dirt cheap and always work as attended.

Console gaming has proved once again that it will remain as it always has been. They'll overhype features or elements on launch but will come off as gimmicky and nobody will remember them by the end of the generation. always has been. Games going 30FPS on console doesn't surprise me, developers are forcing graphical fidelity at the cost of performance even on PC which is why those PC ports are so bad and still don't look as good as some other games. Starfield going 30FPS and people buying into that and defending it is straight up schizo territory considering just over 2 months ago, people roasted Redfall for being 30 as well.

@ZenXIV

Жыл бұрын

It's amusing that console players are whining about FPS; I remember back in the day when they would go on and on about how 60 FPS isn't that big of a deal and 30 FPS is great. Absolutely hilarious. Starfield has a legitimate reason for being 30 FPS; the game relies significantly on the CPU. The Xbox hardware just cannot handle it, and even if there was a 60 FPS mode, it would be terrible since it would be inconsistent. Lower resolution would only compound the CPU issue.

@NathanSF-qr2ds

Жыл бұрын

I mean, Starfield does have a legit reason to run at 30fps

@schikey2076

7 ай бұрын

to be honest, I feel like only Nintendo gets the idea on how to do this marketing tbh.. (for the record, this is called the "blue ocean strategy") after the release of GameCube, they know that consoles cannot just sell on power and performance alone so they have to really stand out against their competitors .... they fumbled the ball with Wii, and Wii U but finally found their footing with the Switch.. and from the looks of it, if they decides to make a new console, they have a good reference point thanks to the Switch now.

@crash2676

6 ай бұрын

@@schikey2076 I'm not trying to give you shit buddy, but the Wii did not fumble (you're right about the Wii U tho lol). that was one of the most sold consoles in the early 2000's. It wasn't the best, but it sold a lot.

18:20 because it's even simpler: you don't even need to have an Internet connection to turn it on - imagine not relying on the Microsoft server for your hardware not to be a brick.

What is wrong with toning down graphics for better performance?

There are way more P.C. Exclusive Games than all three consoles with console exclusives combined

I’m on console I’m trying to go pc what’s the best pc on the market?

The funny thing about the "consoles were made for gaming." Hardware acceleration was a pc thing that consoles got later. And with modern consoles the os overhead counts for less and less of the hardware uses. My recording software infinitely costs more to run than windows.

17:00 Hello? 911, think I just witnessed a murder...

7:40 "There are so many combinations of hardware that developers need to consider when making a game." Yeah, I wonder why developers use API collections like DirectX and Vulkan when developing a videogame....Oh yeah right, to handle that amount of hardware differences, but I'm guessing this guy with thousands of subscribers and a "PC focus" channel just fcking making things up like if it's problem but in reality this has been solved since graphics APIs have existed. Can we just stop bringing up points that might bait a lot people, making them believe in things that are actually solved by people who are actually know their jobs, had thought about it and got the solution for ages?

I prefer console gaming..but P.C. gaming is better 60 to 244 fps gaming.... thousands more games...more P.C. Exclusive Games...better prices on games..free multiplayer (I only play single player games)... multiple storefronts to buy games

@sjb610

Жыл бұрын

its funny how you have this long list of how PC is better but still prefer consoles lol, are you a masochist?

@SouthernRebels94

19 күн бұрын

I don't see where gaming is cheaper on PC and the whole online gaming being free is actually a lie I played on both PC and consoles and I can easily say I spent more money to play online on my PC than I do on my console plus I spent more money to buy games on PC then I did on the console, after I while I gave up PC gaming since I was losing hundreds of dollars just to play online on my PC yet I only pay $14 dollars a month to play 2 online games on my console my other online games on my PS5 are free to play, plus online games forces you to cough up hundreds of dollars just for upgrades on top with online subscriptions for most of its online PC games.

He missed the single biggest reason why some of us still opt for console gaming, physical games. One of the main reason I play more on my consoles, than on my PC, is simply because I like having a physical copy of games. I like having something tangible of what I'm giving money for, a game on the shelf, not locked to an account and not just a license to play a game, but a game I own. A game that 30 years from now, I can still pull off of the shelf, pop it in the console and play it. I grew up in the 80s/90s, and I still have all the consoles/games I had growing up, and I can still play them whenver I want to. And before anyone says "But you need to download games on consoles now!", most physical games on console still contain the game on the disc, and not just an install file, I've tested it a few times, and tried installing the game on an offline console, still worked just fine. As long as I can still get my games on disc, I'll mainly play on console. When I can't anymore, I'll fully switch to PC.

why not get both? pc and a console of choice? i have a gaming laptop and a switch lite. best gaming combo?

@sjb610

Жыл бұрын

why buy a switch when you can emulate it with a PC?

@zekester2097

Ай бұрын

@@sjb610 Most of the time, it's because it's a handheld.

@sjb610

Ай бұрын

@@zekester2097 Can always get a steam deck

@jd2792

Күн бұрын

Money its not worth getting a console either I wait for a pc port or I emulate it

Hey Joe I have a question, since covid affected the sales of GPUs and the like, is it more expensive nowadays to buy a PC that's really better than a console?

@Christian-gr3gu

Жыл бұрын

Oh and where should I buy a gaming laptop from? Who's a good seller of them? If you knoe

@dr.diteco9885

Жыл бұрын

For equivalent power, pc is more expensive up front, however everything after that is cheaper.

@dr.diteco9885

Жыл бұрын

Although i should mention, if you prioritize fps over resolution, low end pcs can easily eclipse the consoles at similar price points, particularly if you are shopping used.

@PyromancerRift

Жыл бұрын

You can get a ryzen 5 5600x for 150$, a B550 motherboard for the same, 16gigs of ram for 70$, a case for 50$, a PSU for 50$, the best SSD you can find for 30$ and you reach 500$. Now you need to add a GPU, so, no. You canot outperform a console for the same price. Even if you get a lower CPU and motherboard (not worth it). But you don't need to pay for online play and you pay your games for cheaper. So, depending on the amount of games you buy, your GPU investment will pay off and you will end up with a multipurpose box that outperform consoles. A 6600XT will barely outperform a PS5 and it is pretty cheap.

@adknife2046

Жыл бұрын

you mean a ryzen 5 5600x is exepensive?? the cpu is on 150$ even with 3060 or rx 6700xt you will have a good config

Tbh, I feel like console is at a great place rn b/c of the 120fps update. I have both console (xbox series x) and pc and I feel like anything beyond 120 fps is diminishing returns. And I played at damn near all frames. I played on 30-60 fps for the longest time on console. I played on 144fps on pc for while before upgrading monitors. And now I play on 240fps. Going from 144 to 240 was almost unnoticeable tbh. But going from 30/60fps to 120, is like night and day. So 120fps is pretty much the sweet spot imo. But this obviously depends on the type of games you play. I mainly play BR's, and fortnite and WZ both run smooth on 120fps on console. Unfortunately Apex doesn't have it yet which is a bummer. But there's still a lot of games on console that doesn't support 120 yet, so it's very subjective.

I’m embarrassed to say I needed a reminder as to why PC is better than console since I have been away from PC gaming (mostly) for so long due to my PC being quote old now. This video was the reminder I needed and the clarification I was looking for. Thank you! Genuinely!

Some console manufacturer sent him some money recently....

The thing is we have APIs, drivers and firmware that smooth over any difference in hardware. Configs only matter in terms of performance measurement. If I am measuring how performant a level is in my rig I note my specs, it’s not a minefield. If PC game dev was at all like how these people think it is then there wouldn’t be nearly as many PC games as there are currently. Also how do you think console games are made?

Bro that clip at 1:58 is gold

I'm praying these console vs pc channels learn what directx is. Makes developing for multiple levels of hardware much simpler.

DID NOT EXPECT THE DESCENDENTS CLIP IN THE OPENING

This is the guy that convinced me to switch to pc....

20:10 ye besides it having an NVMe slot it's uglier than a router - it looks like a router that had angry German kid keyboard treatment applied. A bent router with an optional Blu-ray-reader-ish slot (my Blu-ray Player plays DVDs and CDs so I consider the PS5 below it).

More Developers Work on P.C. games than console games...hence more PC games available each year

Joe you are never too old for a penis joke 😂 34 here btw

Man this guy makes my head hurt, due to personal reasons I have a gaming laptop not PC, however, even my laptop has more customization options than the consoles

now that pc prices have come way down, the consoles have a lot less value. however if you compare average pc specs via steam survey to the consoles they are about on par. of course mostly everything else is better on pc

@jacksonvance7404

Жыл бұрын

I’m not sure what the average pc is according to steam but I’d assume it’s about a 6 year old mid tier machine

I seriously hate the "different hardware configurations" argument. It's such a fundamental misunderstanding of the hardware and game design. Maybe *sometimes* you have to optimize your program to run with Nvidia and AMD configurations differently. This is what drivers are for. This is why most modern PCs use the same CPU architecture (x86-64, or ARM if you're apple) and even then, you are only designing your program for Nvidia/AMD and/or x86-64/ARM. You don't need to program it differently for EVERY SINGLE COMBINATION. Trust me, computer engineers are smarter than that. Also, I liked the papershredder/nuke analogy, it was beautiful.

@Daxter609

Жыл бұрын

People don't seem to get that the DirectX and OpenGL/Vulkan apis exist for this very reason. If you really did have to code for several different hardware configurations, PC gaming would not be as popular as it is now.

Yeaaaah that endless PC configuration thing doesn't make sense. There are 1 or 2 person indie teams and their games can run on thousands of configurations. If all the configs where a problem, small indies wouldn't port to PC. Also, backwards compatibility wouldn't exist. The Rog ally is able to run all those games, yet no devs in the past ever developed specifically for it. So you have to ask how is a device that the games where never developed for, running games it was never developed for?

I think Console people need to remember something. Without a doubt, it is easier to set up a console vs a PC. Anyone who says otherwise is a literal idiot. However, just because consoles are "easier" doesn't mean the PC is hard. It's quite easy, especially if you buy a pre-built. Heck, my friend recently bought a PC, and while I would have loved to build it for them, they're in another continent, so they had to do something they had no experience with, building a PC. I told them to read the manuals, and be confident. They got it going, after a brief troubleshooting step where they didn't insert their RAM properly. Once that was done, they installed Windows just fine and was gaming within the next day (Their Internet is really slow and they finished the PC build late night). Yes, just because consoles are objectively easier, the PC is still very easy. Unless you go the route I did and do full custom watercooling, the PC is easy to do. And if you're really that scared of assembling a PC... just buy a pre-built.

@ExtraordinaryJam

3 ай бұрын

There is no good prebuilt PCs in a country I lived in

As someone who hasn’t owned a console in well over half a decade and loves the PC, I still think if all you want is a simple box to play games on then you should just buy a console. Everyone else should look at PCs though

I watched this video earlier by pc centric and I am new to pc gaming. You made a lot of good points. In 1 day I am building my first Pc. I am going from a ps5 to pc but will still use my ps5 but will be using my pc 90% of the time. Also as someone who has been playing on console for years now the locked 30 fps never bothered me. I did not even know what frames per second was until I wanted to get a pc. I did not even know the benefits of having more of it. Moral of my story is yea pc is better but if all you played was 30 fps you would not even realize it but if you played on 144 or higher it would be hard to go back from what I’ve heard.

@KINGOFDUBSOFFICIAL

Жыл бұрын

Do you even play the ps5 on a 120hz display and in performance mode because you can’t really tell the difference in fps from 120 and 144 or 60 and 70?

@trulycursed-_-2356

Жыл бұрын

@@KINGOFDUBSOFFICIAL the game I played a lot (apex) does not support 120.

@KINGOFDUBSOFFICIAL

Жыл бұрын

@@trulycursed-_-2356 that is true, they promised to have a 120fps update like 2 years ago but never made it.

@jacksonvance7404

Жыл бұрын

You’re gonna be blown away in the difference between console and pc apex. I switched a few years ago. I still have an Xbox series s for travel. Due to my current living arrangement that’s all I can play apex on and it is miserable compared to pc. Locked 60 fps is ass coming from 240+

@KINGOFDUBSOFFICIAL

Жыл бұрын

@@jacksonvance7404 I have a PS5 and a 4070 PC build and can say that there is a good difference in frame rate, not so much for fidelity to me. I play on a 1440p ultrawide 180hz monitor on PC and a 4K 120hz TV for PS5 even tho Apex is locked at 60fps. I notice the difference but it doesn’t feel horrible to me and I think that’s like the only competitive gave that runs at 60fps on PS5 but I still like both console and PC as platforms.

Switching to PC for me was a no brainer. I don't buy games at launch because they never work properly at first and are rarely complete, and that's on all platforms since the 360 and PS3 era and Switch for Nintendo. That's why I don't care about "mah timed exclusives", I want them fully and properly programmed with all the content, and I don't want my pants pulled down on the price. I bought the remastered Mass Effect trilogy for 5 quid, not 50. I bought Horizon Zero Dawn for a tenner, Halo Master Chef collection for £7.49. I've got well over 600 free games, plenty of AAAs among them, Humble Bundles. I've not even got a posh PC, 6 core Zen 3 and 2060S, but it's still better than a console, every game I own I can run at at least 60FPS 1080P high to ultra or 1440P high/medium mix, older stuff I can increase rez or/and go high FPS. And it all runs with perfect stutter free smoothness. Yes I get that consoles are more plug 'n' play but your average person uses a PC routinely anyway, adapting to another ap is not an issue for many, once they've installed and used a launcher once they'll be fine.

0:50 Nonsense, they have always been substantially apart. Consoles back in the nineties and aughts had worse graphics and lower resolutions than gaming PCs (especially before 720p became the standard). On frame rate they were more comparable, though, as console games were optimized for a specific resolution and frame rate. Nowadays they have comparable resolution but lower frame rate. And worse graphics too, though that is getting less and less noticeable with each passing year and generation, even with new technologies like RT being added to the mix. I’d say for most people, frame rate difference is exactly the thing they’re going to notice, and overall the visual difference between PC and console is probably less than it’s ever been.

Console gaming these days are more for ignorant and/or lazy and/or poor people.

The problem is console only Devs are trying to port console games to P.C.....P.C. Devs don't have this issue

@NathanSF-qr2ds

Жыл бұрын

I mean Hideo Kojima was a console only dev for years and the PC port of MGSV was flawlessly good

i just bought a steam deck and i use it docked for a consolelike experience

I never got the "they have to develop for so many parts." argument. My old build i7-2600k and gtx970 still plays recent AAA games. Have to adjust to get 60fps, but still quite possible. Played God of War and Spider-man remastered just fine and above 60. Last of Us was the only one choking. Still running much better than on my PS4 slim.

tbh quality mode should be 60fps and performance mode 120fps

I just made the switch to pc after 30 years of console gaming. I took a break for a few years when my kids were young. After a couple months of gaming on my new pc I would have to say its on a whole different level. You really just have to feel the games to understand. I would never go back. Better graphics ,raytracing and performance hands down. Having said that 500 bucks for a new console is a pretty good deal and for the price you're getting decent performance. I disagree with you on some people aren't too dumb to use a pc. I dont have a single friend that is smart enough to switch to pc. So ya i think people are too dumb. If you dont know how to navigate windows and you're not willing to tweak settings then pc in not for you. That is perfectly fine some people just wanna keep it simple. Anyways pc is undoubtedly better but it should be for the initial cost. Still have my ps5 and im not giving it up because i like just chilling on the couch sometimes still and yes its extremely ugly. Whoever designed it should be fired.

@overdrivedrinker8284

6 ай бұрын

I don’t doubt that some people are truly that tech illiterate in today’s day and age, but as they say: It’s never too late to learn. And once you learn, holy shit you will wish you learned sooner, because it’s great over here

How when my keyboard and mouse cost what a console cost are they near pear my 4090 lol I’ll end it here😂

In this day and age you can buy a liquid nitrogen cooled desktop that can run Doom Eternal at "1000 FPS" on Ultra Nightmare settings easily. For the price of two consoles (~$1100)...that most people probably have. And you won't have to deal with the BS of using a controller for an FPS. Consoles stopped making sense past PS3, because consoles tried to put games that were essentially for PCs as a console experience. Which honestly sucks due to limited input options.

Thanks Joe for the video. I like your factual and calm comment style. When I want over the top commentary of such Videos I watch Fritanga. When I want to punish myself with too many showings of trained male thighs mixed with some commentary I watch Alexx.^^ I like PC Centric. His Videos when he is PC Centric are interesting imo. He just was a coward here and dont want to anger console players or fanboys I guess. For me a console will never be an option. I like my PC and the freedom it´s offers. To play games like Skyrim (and probably Starfield) with mods makes them just great or playing whole new games for free like S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Anomaly or S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Lost Alpha (I am one of the 10 people who like Lost Alpha^^).

been a Pc gamer for some years now and i got mostly all the consoles and this is the 1st generation i didn't buy any of the new ones, i don't see a reason too and yes the Ps5 is ugly 😐

Dudes arms are like noodles.

I think you’re teleported car analogy was good last vid a car is designed for the road sure but a teleporter is faster. Also console is easier for devs but devs make the games on a pc 😂

lol Spider-Man 2 available on pc less then a year after it launched on ps5

You talking fax . And the most important part is people forget the ps5 is compared to a 2070 . It’s literally not better than Most pcs

5:40 wo wo wo and you pretend nothing happened over that kill with punch ? srly that's was amazing

@TheUnknownDoc

Жыл бұрын

ok you got me with p....

@TheUnknownDoc

Жыл бұрын

19:40 that's that's hunger

@JoeFromSeattle

Жыл бұрын

I punched him off the map lol

Thanks to the steam deck I’m now getting rid of my consoles

am i just now seeing that i'm in this video. 😮 also they still call it quality mode and runs even worse.

Can you click on an icon? Yes. Then you can game on a pc.

Closer than ever doesn’t mean close. Just means it’s closer than it’s been before. Lmao like if you’ve been 1000 miles away for years and then finally made it to 999 miles away. Still a wide gap buuuut closer than ever.

I dont think hes being dishonest I think he legit doesnt know wtf hes talking about lol. Also sick Valorant play

Xbox series x gpu (as some people call it) is roughly equivalent to 2070 super resulted that xbox is a bit more powerful than ps5 in terms of hardware

i like console gaming waaaaaaaay better of course for me its PlayStation, Nintendo & all their amazing Japanese/Asian games. i could care less about how much better & powerful pc is compared to consoles. Japanese consoles just feel & looks better aesthetically, best innovative controllers, nice designs, way simple to use, many times cheaper, not big and bulky like pc's, extreme power efficient, true innovative gameplay, & the console online community are so way cooler and laid back with less time gaming & more time being outside playing sports & stuff having a life. Long Live Console Gaming Forever!!

If consoles are getting closer and closer to being just like PC's, then that in its self should tell them which is superior.

Yeah i used to watch him but havent in a long time. He can be spot on and also way off like this for example

As a ps5 owner I agree, this damn thing is ugly and huge.

I think the main issue with PC is how elitist the fanbase is tbh

With how bad console gaming is getting worse is why I’m jumping to pc

i fail to see why the argument of development for a whole bunch of hardware is a thing. all hardware is built to support dx11 and 12, unless the hardware is 10 years old. if a game developer is using them, then there isn't anything to stress over.

I really shouldn't be watching these kinds of videos. Something something can't look away from a car crash

PC has better user control and the ability for higher computing power. Consoles are relatively cheap boxes that are set it and forget it where everything just works. It really comes down to how involved do you want to be and how much do you want to spend. Average gamer I'd recommend a console because they can't fuck it up the game will always play as intended and it's legitimately just plug and play.

LMFAO....Developers need to develop for all those different Graphics Cards?? Does he not know that that is was OpenGL is for? Does he not know WebGL is a thing? Hmm, well I guess if he only plays on console, then the answer to that question is no, he does not.

Coming from console to PC in 2020 I couldn't imagine going back to console for gaming heavy. Tried overwatch 2 on ps5 and it gave me a headache. Can't even believe that game runs that bad

My issue with this guy is that he advocates for PC gaming by literally throwing money at the problem. Being realistic here, the performance you get with a console budget is significantly greater than what you would get on the same budget for PC...A more thoughtful argument would be about the fact that you have access to upscaling and frame gen technology that significantly improves performance along with the consideration of how games are more expensive on consoles which leads to a return in the PC investment overtime....along with the fact that a beefy gaming PC is at the end of the day a power house workstation fit for a lot of heavy computational work like video editing, VFX, engineering design tools, simulation software etc....along with the fact that you can also emulate other consoles.

Console players really want to pretend they are getting top ofthe line hardware due to buyers remorse. The know they are getting screwed and feel the need to justify it. Same as Apple Fanboys.

I'm a console gamer and I agree that pc is better at gaming the only thing I don't like is that its so expensive to get a gaming PC

@theboy2777

5 ай бұрын

You can build a 3700x and 2070 super (which is equivalent specs to a ps5) for $500 or even less

@Raven.Bloodrot

5 ай бұрын

​@@theboy2777 ^^this

Clean that screen my guy

I say less people on pc the the better let the console gamer think there way is best

@NintendoDude888

Жыл бұрын

What?

I can end the war easy. Remove PC, how do console's get their games? Remove consoles, PC will STILL have games made

always funny when a fanboy always say, yeah but console is alot cheaper. that's literally a pc, with their abilites locked to nothing but play games and maybe watch movies? obviously they gonna cost alot less.

I disagree with this video. Consoles and pc both offer something. Consoles are the entry level plug in and play simple console for average people, pc's are for enthusiasts who have the cash. The reality is a series s or x with gamepass is much cheaper and simpler than building a $900 pc then buying a kb+m then buying a monitor becuase playing on a TV doesn't make sense for KB+M. Not to mention bad pc ports and needing to upgrade more often than a console user who only needs to upgrade once every 7 years. The reality is most people play COD and fifa/madden, there's no need to get an expensive pc to play those games

@overdrivedrinker8284

3 ай бұрын

It’s not that consoles don’t need to upgrade, it’s that they don’t have the option to until the next generation of console comes out. And that’s buying an entirely new machine.

No offense but Valorant can run on a smart fridge

Honesty PC gamers shouldn't be such haters. As a PC gamer, PS and Xbox are more than valid and we shouldn't talk down on them. Not everyone needs a perfect build. PCs are great! Consoles are great, gaming is gaming

hes just shilling for consoles cause kids and manchildren watch it

what is with the console fetish there is no reason to buy new consoles, is this guy a propagandist? I never understood the whole the game being optimised for console non sense

this channel is pc centric but he praises console? huh ok

@NathanSF-qr2ds

Жыл бұрын

So console can't be praised for things, only shit on?

Cry pc fanboy

@lilsoonerfaninmo

3 ай бұрын

Nice projection

@Donatas-zi6rk

2 ай бұрын

Bro coping so hard that he bought a useless box 💀

You better believe that consoles are going to keep getting more expensive to the point where you're better off switching to PC permanently and upgrading whenever you need or want to. Consoles give you the least amount of choices and flexibility possible.