READ ABOUT THE CASE: lawandcrime.com/live-trials/live-trials-current/ice-cream-man-faces-double-murder-trial-for-seeking-revenge-on-suspected-robbers/

@graysgigi

Жыл бұрын

Mmmmmmmm😊

This man legit thought that a GTA-style paintjob on his car would reduce his wanted level to 0. 🤓

Who takes children that young into a murder trial?

@justin79811

Жыл бұрын

​@@LeoS300 - Go away.

@750dollarman2

Жыл бұрын

Must be relatives of defendants and no babysitter available. But still bad for the kids.

@750dollarman2

Жыл бұрын

Must be relatives of defendant or victims, and probably no babysitter available. But still bad for the kids they have to know it

@bobalmighty2925

Жыл бұрын

I think they're waiting for ice cream.

@karaDee2363

Жыл бұрын

They heard the ice cream man was going to be there...

Looks like the Ice Cream Man's defense is melting away.

Why are young kids in court? Are they his grandchildren? So sad, they shouldn’t have to listen to this.

@dejuhvu1793

Жыл бұрын

I think they do it for sympathy from the jury. They should be in school.

@kristinm784

Жыл бұрын

This is inappropriate for children

@KrissyB1982

Жыл бұрын

Lawyers often suggest clients bring their children and family to court as a show of love and support as well as sympathy from the jury. It also is meant to show that they are loved and cared for and depended on, which they hope will keep them from longer sentences if convicted.

@cail171

Жыл бұрын

​@CocoAvalon nah not an excuse here. Just needs to tell the jury. This looks silly. Kids don't need 2 see or hear these gruesome details. Period.

@ccf9320

Жыл бұрын

@@KrissyB1982 good god!! If I were a jury member seeing this, it would stick with me deeply and not in a good way at all. No matter the ‘positive view’ it may give any jury, I’m not putting my child through something this traumatic and life changing. Not. For. Anyone.

Unfortunately choosing to take matters into your own hands and committing murder, makes you no better than the actual criminal you seek. And the fact that he had the wrong people and murdered 2 makes him guilty. No sympathy from me

@dejuhvu1793

Жыл бұрын

Killed 2

@sueeagle6872

Жыл бұрын

@@dejuhvu1793 thank you for the correction. I've edited my comment to reflect that

@Bttrsweets

Жыл бұрын

I wouldn't say "no sympathy". It's sad no matter what.

@ellafacebooktruecrimecases3644

Жыл бұрын

Yup

@debbiejones4935

Жыл бұрын

​@@Bttrsweets hr deserves no sympathy, so no sympathy given. His family deserves sympathy.

‘Resorch’ 😆 I can’t get past that word!!

@MrDammit7

Жыл бұрын

She really has a hard time speaking

Prosecute to the fullest extent of the law

You can't run from the ice cream man

I've seen this Prosecutor in several other Cases - she is very very good!

@jstape740

Жыл бұрын

But she can't talk very well.

@avejaly8065

Жыл бұрын

Indeed! Super pro

A spread collar tuxedo shirt with a cardigan? This guy is full of interesting decisions...

He did all that investigating and still got the wrong house and people 🤦🏽‍♀️. Rip to the innocent souls.

@YoungHaveNot

Жыл бұрын

Innocent? They were dirty mexican criminals. Im sure they werent upstanding citizens.

@SHANELL032007

Жыл бұрын

Exactly

@shamina1908

Жыл бұрын

Right!

I'm surprised this case is tried again. Last time it was a mistrial, and before that it was a mistrial, too. The witness's memories are not getting better over time and last time was an absolute mess. The witnesses couldn't identify him, they said he wore something that he didn't. They couldn't identify the firearm, they couldn't even identify the car. And on top of it all the witnesses were shown to have a bias against the defendant because of the rumor publicized that he was the shooter. Lastly, all the witnesses were under the influence of drugs and heavy alcohol usage, taking their credibility away. I hope the state have better evidence this time.

@thefinalgrind

Жыл бұрын

My lack of knowledge appreciates your sharing of knowledge.

Does this judge ever stop working?!

No babysitter, no problem...when it comes to supporting the Ice cream Man, I guess. 😅

This prosecutor ain't no Creighton Waters!!

@Ironhart

Жыл бұрын

☠️

Everybody who lives in a city knows this: If you are the victim of a violent and/or property crime, unless the police arrest the perp at the scene or in flight from the scene, chances are small he'll ever be arrested-and if the police have not arrested the perp within three days, the chances of them ever arresting the perp are remote, less than 1%. ▪︎ So this poor shlub gets robbed and the perps shoot him four times for the fun of it and, in doing so, they change his life forever. ▪︎ The cops don't find them, but they find the shlub of the story - can you imagine the laughter of the perpes?

@ccccarriemchardy9216

Жыл бұрын

Does not make you Judge and Jury, or a Police Officer.

@adammartin4906

Жыл бұрын

@@ccccarriemchardy9216 curious should he just suck it up and live in fear? Judge jury or police officer the ones that failed him so you go on say he had no right hmm wonder if it was you that this happened to what your statement would be then?

@ccccarriemchardy9216

Жыл бұрын

@@adammartin4906 As a grown man, he could have taken the new information to the Police, or others and dealt with it like most adults do. Killing does not make him right, nor is the answer, especially when its not the right people he decided to target. He's no better than them.

@adammartin4906

Жыл бұрын

@@ccccarriemchardy9216 I agree but it does not change the fact that the police failed him and caused the situation and I also agree with Dan Stewart if you live in the city they are all under this new Woke ideology that believes in being soft on crime because they have a harder life than others so they ignore their crimes and then this ice cream guy falls victim to this broken view and takes the law into his own hands which Is wrong too but ultimately caused by the Governments policy's, and here is the funny part he is going to jail and the people that robed him are walking around laughing

@ccccarriemchardy9216

Жыл бұрын

@@adammartin4906 if he had given the police the correct information in the beginning, this would have probably not happened.

Even if he murdered the people who actually robbed him it would still murder, first degree murder no less. I know this trial is about whether he was the one who did it and not about the legality of vigilantism, but judging by some of the comments that seems to be something that needs to be said.

@seancourtney9021

Жыл бұрын

well said.

@avejaly8065

Жыл бұрын

Obsolete comment

For $12 give me a fking break

@cjwelch2414

Жыл бұрын

Not the 12$ , they shot him. Still wrong he ended up killing innocent people

@STCatchMeTRACjRo

Жыл бұрын

its not the 12$, its the fact he was assaulted and shot for it. The robbers shot him, and they only managed to steal 12$. Its the injuries and trauma the robbers caused.

@FabiolaMacabre

Жыл бұрын

Ikr, pathetic.

@basicallyno1722

Жыл бұрын

Too bad the people who did that to him were not the people he ended up killing….

If he takes revenge like a movie star, he has to be shure to get the right people.

He killed 2 people over $12? 🤯

@La_Ru-yg8es

Жыл бұрын

They shot him, too. I don't think it was the 12 bucks. It was the fact he was shot. That traumatic.

Unfortunately choosing to take matters into your own hands and committing murder, makes you no better than the actual criminal you seek. And the fact that he had the wrong people and murdered one makes him guilty. No sympathy from me

If 12 $ is your gain a work day, rethink your job.

Who tf brings their kids to watch a murder trial??? Related or not, no sitter or not, NO JUSTIFYING THAT BS!! Frankly if they are perhaps his grandkids, it's even more disgusting using them as pawns for jury sympathy, who cares what mental damage is done by what they see or hear I guess. Despicable parenting!!

Whoever brought their young children to this, shame on them. 🤦‍♀️ Tf.

@AshleyAcademy

Жыл бұрын

We aren't allow to sit in on our parents hearing? tf?

@kristinm784

Жыл бұрын

Truancy

@AshleyAcademy

Жыл бұрын

@@kristinm784 Family Reunion? Truancy. Family Funeral? Truancy.

@nikkigussalazar5005

Жыл бұрын

@@AshleyAcademy no. It's ridiculous. I have kids and I wouldn't do that. They're to you g to hear details like that. I said what I said. 🤷‍♀️

@AshleyAcademy

Жыл бұрын

@@nikkigussalazar5005 You think this is the worst these kids have heard? After the hearing they're probably playing Modern Warfare with friends putting bullets through skulls, but you're right, you said what you said.

He shot them and neither one of them was the man he was looking for?!

Street Justice!!! If the cops did their job, Ice Cream Man would have to be strappin!

@SHANELL032007

Жыл бұрын

Its not justice when he shot the wrong fuking people!

@basicallyno1722

Жыл бұрын

He didn’t kill the people who robbed him…

Geez Florida people just do it different lol 🤣

Imagine inviting guests over for a double date of gun shooting at your house. So wypipo

Why he get revenge on the wrong people ?

Why do I recognize the lawyer on the prosecution side? She was obviously on a case I watched recently.

@RachelsaPG

Жыл бұрын

Trevor summers.

@jennid8958

Жыл бұрын

@@RachelsaPG oh yeah! Thank you! That was a crazy case.

He really thought he was Charles Bronson. Not great at hiding his tracks, especially search history. Not the brightest. Were these people even the one’s that committed the original crime against him?

@karaDee2363

Жыл бұрын

Nope, he got the wrong people.... I had nothing to do with what happened to him..

@1972dsrai

Жыл бұрын

@@karaDee2363 Why, are there some that think you did? You’re not one of the friends who he originally planned to do with killings with are you?

ICE CREAM WARS OF GLASGOW In the 1970’s there were ice cream wars that left a few people dead in Glasgow, Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 Its a a well known & much talked of events this side of the pond. While on the subject, maybe have a look on KZread as there are some documentaries about what went on. Some heavy accents though 😊

Who the heck thought it was a good idea to take kids to court did u see their faces trauma 101

So the cops went and arrested “Creeper”, and thanked him for doing their job for them right?

This is what happens when the government doesn’t take crime seriously. The people take it into their own hands. It doesn’t matter if it was $12 or $1200, the resulting fear and trauma is the same for victims. And the fact that he was shot is, of course, an added trauma. If I’m a juror on this case, this approach by the prosecution is all wrong. She wants me to see obsessive revenge and vengeance but what I’m hearing is he sought JUSTICE when the system failed him. Terrible strategy.

@STCatchMeTRACjRo

Жыл бұрын

but who did he murder. did he murder those who shoot him, who caused him trauma? or shoot and murdered those who had nothing to do with the robbery? did he harm those who harmed him? or he harmed innocent people?

@YoungHaveNot

Жыл бұрын

Facts my guy

@tradeladder146

Жыл бұрын

Never take the Law into your own Hands, this Guy will now Die in Prison, crazy. 😒

@YoungHaveNot

Жыл бұрын

​@Red Foxy innocent? You think those dirty Mexicans were innocent? Check their wrap sheet

@FirstNameLastName-wt5to

Жыл бұрын

@@tradeladder146 Are you opposed to self-defense laws?

Just because he was investigating the crime, doesn't mean he was looking to kill them. Police don't tell you anything when they're investigating.

why would anyone look up that same topic so many times? never heard of bookmarks?

An emotion of revenge is to be expected after what he endured. All this to steal 12$ and the police failed to find the criminals. It is only human to want the criminals to pay for what they have done. I don’t know if he is guilty but all this talk about revenge, as if he is a bad person for just wanting justice, is wrong.

@ED-eh6iq

Жыл бұрын

I agree. It’s terrible and wrong if he did it but it’s still hard not to feel bad for him!

The ice cream man cometh

Why those kids there ?

I’m all for get back after being nearly killed but you gotta get the right people… Sucks sitting in prison and your shooter still on the street.

He should have gone to a library rather than done it online

@hippygirlfriend4937

Жыл бұрын

They would still of had his username and info and address now a days committing a crime ur gonna get caught somehow

This has got to be her first time in court right? I wouldn't be too worried if she were trying to prosecute me.

@keystohellanddeath

Жыл бұрын

She actually prosecuted Trevor Summers, whose trial was also covered. He represented himself though, so he practically convicted himself

@DMWBN3

Жыл бұрын

TV channels must rub their hands together when a big case is going on & you hear those words ‘I’ll represent myself’ Pull up a chair 🪑 Popcorn 🍿 Ice cream 🍨

@RavenTheRiverRunner

Жыл бұрын

@@keystohellanddeath I was trying to remember where I’d seen this judge and prosecutor before.

@jstape740

Жыл бұрын

​@@DMWBN3 ice cream is covered

@avejaly8065

Жыл бұрын

Disrespectful.

How does he sit in jail for ten years before facing trial, whatever happened to the right to a speedy trial. If the police had of done their job properly in the first place none of this would have occurred in the first place.

@charlespawl364

Жыл бұрын

This is a retrial

@peterbuckley3877

Жыл бұрын

@@charlespawl364 I know it’s the retrial but his original trial took years before it got to court, so much for his right to a speedy trial. The offence occurred in 2010 and his first trial finished in 2020, it’s now taken another three years to get to retrial.

Eddy murphy do you see this $$$$! Not the ice cream man ! LAWD

How was there a hung jury before

So what he looked up.

Ehhhhh...... Nothing beats a great case of revenge..... I'm gonna have to listen to this case. Because I'm already starting my bias being on the side of the ice cream truck man.

@masonkanterbury3007

Жыл бұрын

He lost. Life in prison.

@EarlyBirdCraft

Жыл бұрын

Taking revenge over $12? Lol you should follow him to prison. You two make great lovers

@Misc-

Жыл бұрын

​@@EarlyBirdCraft 😮😅

My sympathies lie with Mr Keetley!

@Dr.Pepper001

Жыл бұрын

You said it, brother.

@markb6295

Жыл бұрын

Because he killed the wrong people?

@ashleyyy1

Жыл бұрын

He didn’t even kill the people who wronged him. Wdym your sympathies lie with him lol

@capefear56

Жыл бұрын

Were you even listening to the case? He literally killed the wrong people even after knowing they weren't the ones he was after.

@YoungHaveNot

Жыл бұрын

I concur!! FREE UNC!! He did nothing wrong. He is a brave man.

Ya right, game activity! Fo your job cops.

Re-sorch 😂😭

@blindpanthervlogs

Жыл бұрын

She did that kind of thing a lot while making her statement. Homegirl been at the club all weekend and then came in the courtroom like a College kid who forgot they had an assignment due.

I suggest do a little research before posting. Witnesses originally did not identify this guy nor did they state a handgun was used. Instead it was a 250lb man with a pump shotgun. 1st trial found him not guilty by 10 to 2 jury deadlock. He's been crippled for being shot 4 times, shattering bones and destroying nerves. Gun used in crime was never found so d.a. stated he just changed barrels. If he was that thoughtful, he would have been consistently on everything. This all stinks from the P.D. to the D.A.

Did he kill the creeper or did the creeper self-destruct? That tends to happen too.

@nathanunsted142

Жыл бұрын

Such a dead joke

Resorch. Fronch porch. You should be able to talk as a prosecutor

Fool shot up the wrong house

@mjchiwara

Жыл бұрын

Who cares about the house being shot up. He ended two people🥺😭.

@xerxes7989

Жыл бұрын

@@mjchiwara 2 illegal alien gang members... Who cares?

He was trying to do the cops job cause the cops are taking money

This is so crazy..how can you kill someone over $12😯 RIP to the innocent victims🙏🙏🙏

@doreenalcaraz4257

Жыл бұрын

@@pbradics3670 Now I understand more. I didn't know he was shot 4x..

Jeepers it's Creeper he's a big TLC fan

Nope.

Make Ice Cream Men Greater Again! 🍧🍦🍨 🙈

Sounds like they robbed the wrong person sucks to be them ans the reason I say this is because that was there friend and prolly some of them that robbed him plus they are playing victim but no they aren't they are a gang and someone gave them some Karna

Free Brodie, he did nothing wrong

@mjchiwara

Жыл бұрын

No he did nothing wrong except kill two innocent men & almost kill two others.🙃🥴

WHY in God's name are those children allowed in the court especially during a murder trial? Go ahead educate kids at that age, in a court of law none the less, about guns, killing & lesson in taking the law into one's own hands. 🤔👎

Them ice cream men will kill u

He wasn't obsesing about revendge he was suffering from suvere PTSD from the initial robbery.He also rifded the community ( or attempted ) of scumbags.PTSD puts a person into hyper diligence , forcing the petson to constantly feel threatened and under siege.

Gang hit

That's what they got for steeling $12... Unfortunately they are not going to a chance to make an evaluation and figure it out if it was worthy to get free bloody ice cream or work to earn an honest living.

$12.00 robbery gone wrong???

@PosthumousAddress

Жыл бұрын

It went wrong because he pulled out his gun (he bought it hoping for years someone would try to rob him and he could shoot them), and so when these people robbed him he pulled out his gun and they shot him.

Time served should be a sufficient sentence if found guilty.

@PosthumousAddress

Жыл бұрын

Killing two innocent people who didn't even rob him, he should get the death penalty

@cail171

Жыл бұрын

Glad you are not a juror

@yvonnebent2074

Жыл бұрын

I wonder if you would say the same if it was a member of your family.

@skronked

Жыл бұрын

You are a lunatick

@merlebonds3417

Жыл бұрын

@@skronked k

Well done Michael keatley, show law enforcement how it's done

@funanimation8253

Жыл бұрын

Except he got the wrong people

@basicallyno1722

Жыл бұрын

Show them how to shoot the wrong people?

@GH-cd6oq

10 ай бұрын

- 🤡

The guys he shoot, went to the hospital and said it was the guy i robbed and tried to kill a few weeks ago!

@basicallyno1722

Жыл бұрын

That’s incorrect….plus, the ice cream man was robbed 11 months prior (by someone else). You just want this man to be innocent, stop peddling fake info

I respect a man who can hold a grudge for 11 months. I would let him off just because of the amount of respect I have for him. He has a strong sense of justice.

@skronked

Жыл бұрын

Right. You both are lunaticks

@bigbootyhunta

Жыл бұрын

He's a coward. He was armed while the innocent victims were unarmed and he executed them. He should be found guilty. I know in Florida juries don't like to give the death penalty. This multiple murder cries out for the death penalty.

@basicallyno1722

Жыл бұрын

Not strong enough to get the right people….sounds like vengeance more than anything.

@debbiejones4935

Жыл бұрын

...says the person who didn't lose a loved one. Seriously...smh

Innocent

Did the guys he shoot have records???, thats the real facts !

I mean... this sounds like a failure of law enforcement. Give the guy a KitKat and be done with it. Why waste tax dollars and time on this guy.

@basicallyno1722

Жыл бұрын

Because he planned for 11 months only to kill the wrong people…

@justin79811

Жыл бұрын

@@basicallyno1722 - With a name like "creeper" and the fact that they were dealing drugs, I think saying it was the "wrong people" might be a stretch...

If he only got the people who robbed him i would say good job bc i think the law needs to be changed so all violent crime gets the death penalty.

@STCatchMeTRACjRo

Жыл бұрын

he got the wrong people, and as such, he committed a violent crime, so he needs to get the death penalty. By your logic. Place yourself in the victims shoes. They did nothing to him and yet he murdered 2 of them and injured the rest.

@mjchiwara

Жыл бұрын

You are so shallow. I pray your eyes will open bcos you are surely asleep.

@MAPMinorAttractedPurge

Жыл бұрын

@@mjchiwara oh no you think (used loosely) im a bad person bc I have no sympathy for violent criminals. Its you that need some self reflection.

@MAPMinorAttractedPurge

Жыл бұрын

@@STCatchMeTRACjRo 100% correct. He committed violent crimes against innocent victims so he should get the death penalty.

@MAPMinorAttractedPurge

Жыл бұрын

@@STCatchMeTRACjRo as far as putting myself in the victim's shoes thats the only way i view violent crimes. I have no sympathy for violent criminals.

Shlub adub dub. Hahaha

Jeeperscreepers

This prosecutor isn’t nearly as good as she thinks she is. Must be a easy case, if they’re giving it to the D team.

@holz_name

Жыл бұрын

No, it's a hopeless case for the state. Last time it was a mistrial because all the witnesses were just terrible. The surviving victims couldn't identify anything about him, misidentified the gun, and at the time of the shooting were using drugs and were totally drunk. And on top of it all, all the witnesses had a bias against him because of a shared rumor that he was the shooter.

GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY ALL DAY

I always tell kids when the ice cream 🍦 van 🚐 plays it’s musical chymes - that’s a signal warning everyone that that have sold out of everything.