Hey all! If you're wondering why some of you didn't get notifications for this vid and why it's at a lower viewcount despite coming out a few days ago, it's because it was automatically copyright detected and blocked by Fox. It looks like the copyright claim is still in effect, but for some reason now Fox is just taking the monetization from this video and not blocking it. I'm not sure if it'll end up being blocked later, but I've appealed the copyright claim immediately, and so I'm hoping it gets released soon. Releasing this may have been very stressful, but writing and producing it was still a very good time. I hope you all enjoy the vid!

@warlordofbritannia

2 жыл бұрын

The fact that this is still a thing that happens after years and years is quite demoralizing

@alexneckoyami

2 жыл бұрын

I was actually wondering, normally I wouldn't miss something like this and I was confused no one in my circles was talking about it

@akamesama

2 жыл бұрын

It was wild. I saw the video when it dropped, then a bit later, went to watch it and it had disappeared.

@AnnaKin

2 жыл бұрын

that sucks. For a second there I'd thought I accidentally unsubscribed

@TCGBulkKings

2 жыл бұрын

Lol, I got 45 min into this video, refreshed on accident, and found out it was blocked. Popped back up in my feed just now

This movie really predicted the future because everyone is stupid except me

@warlordofbritannia

2 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing Wait

@myettechase

2 жыл бұрын

we really do live in a society 😔

@warlordofbritannia

2 жыл бұрын

@@myettechase I blame whatever ancient Sumerian thought it be a great idea to get his fellow farmers together and work for a common good Damn fool thought they could work together to keep off nomadic bandits, but he had no idea he’d just started society smh

@MEOWMIX3DS

2 жыл бұрын

vouch

@UnreasonableOpinions

2 жыл бұрын

@@warlordofbritannia We got dog jokes out of it at least. It was a good run.

Fun fact: the creator of one of the first IQ tests (Alfred Binet) never wanted his test to be used as a form of comparison. He made the test for French children after school was mandated; the test determined what education level the kid was at so they could get the help they needed. He did not believe his test was reflective of innate intelligence and actively opposed his idea being used for eugenic purposes.

@iantaakalla8180

2 жыл бұрын

Wait, the IQ test was originally meant to help people get the help they needed in school? As in what a part of school reform is looking to achieve? My god, the world is horrible but not in the way Idiocracy portrays it.

@safs3098

2 жыл бұрын

IQ tests aren't always reflective of innate intelligence but it still tests intelligence.

@Fitzgibbon299

2 жыл бұрын

@@safs3098 Not really that either, it tests a person's abilities in solving specific problems that have nothing to do with intelligence. If you teach a person how to solve a problem they will be tested on, naturally they will do better on the IQ test.

@safs3098

2 жыл бұрын

@@Fitzgibbon299 "it tests a person's abilities in solving specific problems that have nothing to do with intelligence" how do you know it has nothing to do with intelligence? How do you define intelligence? Because intelligence is defined as the ability to understand and use knowledge and skill, so if a test tests how well a person can understand logical problems and solve them, that test does show their intelligence. Most IQ tests I've seen do exactly that, give you logic based questions that anyone with or without an education could solve if their brain work good. "If you teach a person how to solve a problem" well then now the legitimacy of the test is null because the person has cheated, the entire point of the IQ test is to test problem solving and logic, studying the questions pre test is like having the answer sheet for a math test and saying you legitimately understand maths now because you scored high.

@Hugbiel

2 жыл бұрын

@@iantaakalla8180 If I recall correctly the base test was to understand how we learn things, specifically how children learn. Binet discover that in an ability group children follow the same sequence of learning, and that a disparity between group often mean that something is hampering the children learning. And it's easy from this to get that this something is something that need to be fixed. Other discover that the overall score is solidly correlated to each individual score and this mean that we can evaluate the general score from just a few ability tests. Of course racists and supremacist like these number since they can be twisted to justify their actions. But the purely mathematical working make theses number meaning easy to manipulate, and some other French guys build an explanation why they are meaningless like the "The macabre constant" a way of expressing why grading on a curve always build a hierarchy that is dissociated from the ability to actually perform the target tasks. This is not unlike hijacking the theory of evolution as a theory of conflict winner without tacking in account cooperation effectiveness and the advantages of diversity.

My freshman year geometry teacher would bring up this movie every time he saw a student wearing crocs. Idk why it made him so mad, he was generally a chill guy, but if you wore crocs he would go on the same rant he always did about how Idiocracy predicted people wearing crocs and people wearing their “house shoes” in public was a sign that the future was doomed. Weird times.

@elizrebezilmadommdo1662

6 ай бұрын

Everyone knows that your IQ is determined by your fashion sense, obviously.

@pizzaivlife

4 ай бұрын

he better have been in a full suit then, as men were expected to be 100 years ago in public

@LordZero666

4 ай бұрын

Based teacher

@zedalba

4 ай бұрын

I think the same thing when I see people waiting in lines for tumblers.

@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017

4 ай бұрын

He was right. Western culture is totally ghettoified. We are drowning in bad music and media. "WAP" was a #1 hit, ffs.

Marketing department: there is no such thing as bad publicity... except being in Idiocracy.

Idiocracy feels like the kind of movie where your super conservative dad and your ultra liberal sister can both walk away and feel like they schooled the other.

@loyalty5207

Жыл бұрын

It's a movie about the concept of "stupid" and since "the other side is stupid" is the one thing both sides of politics can agree on you're golden.

@venusgin7779

Жыл бұрын

Please stop spying on my family

@alexross1816

Жыл бұрын

@@venusgin7779 But your walls are so comfy!

@venusgin7779

Жыл бұрын

@@alexross1816 my closet is comfier (this is a joke bc I sleep in the closet of my dorm room, its quiter and darker)

@rainpooper7088

Жыл бұрын

@Friendly Discourse It’s good that you know it’s just an absurdist comedy, but this video is clearly intended to debunk the prevalent notion that this movie is some kind of deep societal commentary.

additional horrifying context for 13:43 is that in mexico, part of the reason the drinking water is unsafe is specifically because of companies, including coca cola, dumping toxic waste into the water tables

@Mr.White10-65

2 жыл бұрын

Mexican Coca-Cola tastes way better than Coca-Cola made in the USA. I go out of my way to buy Mexican Coca-Cola.

@sdf1000

2 жыл бұрын

@@Mr.White10-65 tf

@momomo1312

2 жыл бұрын

@@Mr.White10-65 it's the extra toxic waste that gives it the flavor

@jesusjuice7401

2 жыл бұрын

Well yeah, your government is ran by the cartels and don't give a fuck about the people and are even more susceptible to corporate bullshit because your elections matter even less than American ones. What you need is a second amendment and start cleaning out the trash in your communities

@JustHatcheted

2 жыл бұрын

@@jesusjuice7401 The second Amendment is why America has famously low wealth inequality and absolutely none of our politicians are bought off.

Comacho had some amount of integrity in that when he saw that the hero's efforts might actually work, he immediately took steps to put the hero's plan into action to better his citizens' life. This is far far more integrity than what the majority of politicians around the world, especially the US could ever have because they are not doing harm out of ignorance, but sheer greed. In idiocracy, some of the leaders were still thinking of the people. In real life, since distant history, we almost always have had the most power hungry and greedy people as our "leaders".

@Igneel2002

Ай бұрын

Ah, the whole point of the movie however is, they're too dumb to be greedy.

I'm mostly amazed she drank 12 cups of tea, and never needed a restroom break.

@Chastity_Belt

Ай бұрын

Probably real hot in there 🤣

@TrenchMan93

9 күн бұрын

Because its got electrolytes.

If we’re starting to live in the Idiocracy world, I would be mostly disappointed that none of the employees at Costco tell me “Welcome to Costco. I love you”.

@PutkisenSeta

Жыл бұрын

You can be the change you want to see in the world. The next time you order delivery, tell the man you love him after handing over the money. He'll never forget it!

@user60521123

Жыл бұрын

@@PutkisenSeta I think if I tried that I’d know more than I want about the effects of pepper spray.

@jackl4349

Жыл бұрын

You will be greeted by a self service greeting robot.

@Forefatherrabbi

Жыл бұрын

Welcome to KZread. I love you.

@thisgoddamusernamestoodamnlong

11 ай бұрын

I actually really liked the president even as a kid. If he was better educated he'd probably be our best leader to date.

"The Lego Movie is better, actually" is not the hot take I expected to take away from this one lmfao

@phoenixfritzinger9185

2 жыл бұрын

My take away that has been on the back burner since the Divergent part of the Teen Dystopia video but was definitely cemented here was that I was wayyy too harsh on Gundam SEED but I don’t really expect anyone to get why

@rootbourne4454

2 жыл бұрын

The hot take we never knew we needed.

@thewarzoneformerlyknownass4498

2 жыл бұрын

The Lego Movies are better" applies to a suprisingly high amount of movies.

@pontosanaz6485

2 жыл бұрын

the lego movie was the first movie that i ever whatched in a cinema, and it was and still is awesome

@tamale413

2 жыл бұрын

@@thewarzoneformerlyknownass4498 true

Firstly I want to say that really I enjoyed the video. I do think you skimmed over two very important points regarding the film that complicate the arguments: the characters ARE portrayed as being capable of learning, and they are broadly well-intentioned. It’s arguable that outside of swinging for lowest common denominator jokes, the film is empathetic towards most of its characters. The character of the president in particular is the most significant embodiment of both qualities, but he was only given passing mention.

@dubiouscloud5115

3 ай бұрын

I also think its not accurate to act like the film had a "genetically bad" population, but was more building on the cycle of poverty, in which poor people can't afford to give their children a good education, may not be as informed about sexual health, and may not be willing to spend their small amount of money on contraceptives.

@0hypnotoad0

3 ай бұрын

@@dubiouscloud5115I think one thing that undermines that point though is the "IQ" slapped on the screen at the beginning while they are introducing the families. Although, to be fair that might have been plastered onto the movie later on in editing. It is a bit cringey

@Astrosynthesist

3 ай бұрын

However if you look one level deeper IQ is tied much more strongly to socioeconomic status as a child than actual intelligence, which is why it is generally considered to be a poor intelligence metric. So from that regard, IQ was the perfect metric in the movie as it does not pertain to genetics but to SES, where the disadvantaged were having more children. Now, this is a largely disregarded fact so it's possible that the creators were ignorant to it, but as it stands it's actually statistically not a genetic argument and gives the movie a little more credibility.

@Olivetree80

2 ай бұрын

@@Astrosynthesist It's both

My anxiety goes up every time you pour tea while looking at the camera

Two interesting little points I’d like to add on a personal end. 1) most doctors, engineers and other “high intelligence” workers I knew often loved trash television. They would spend all day using critical thinking skills and constantly being exposed to high stress situations. They wanted a break at the end of the day and I couldn’t blame them. 2. I grew in a pretty southern town where people had *thick* accents. I had a teacher tell me she had a hard time proving she wrote a thesis paper because “she didn’t sound like she understood Environmental issues”. She had a southern accent and therefore had to be dumb and a climate denier.

@zipties8442

2 жыл бұрын

@@highjumpstudios2384 yeah, she told us she mostly would only respond via email to avoid these snap judgements of her character, which was why she was telling us to email her only. Messed up stuff.

@microcolonel

2 жыл бұрын

This is basically how your average Gen X democrat (even a highly intelligent one!) thinks about people, but they also enjoy trash TV (though they'll avoid the stuff that is too identifiable with the lower classes).

@microcolonel

2 жыл бұрын

As for doctors and engineers, average general intelligence (and minimum) is measurably higher than the average for the general population. Don't need to put "high intelligence" in scare quotes.

@transfo47

2 жыл бұрын

Being in one of those professions, I generally do like complex and challenging entertainment, for example The Holy Mountain or Dark. However, I'd be wary of drawing any correlations between what type of media one consumes and their general intelligence. I almost exclusively listen to rap, which may be considered brutish by certain sections of people.

@BladeRedwind

2 жыл бұрын

@@microcolonel There's an irony in your generalization of gen x'ers while commentating on how people generalize and make snap judgements about people with accents.

I'll never hear "electrolytes" again without thinking it's what plants crave.

@davegmusicchannel

6 ай бұрын

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA you too??

@Nikola_M

4 ай бұрын

Watch some videos by Chubbyemu and then you'll only think of it in THAT context instead

@TyneeBubbles

4 ай бұрын

@@Nikola_M Haha, I love Chubbyemu! "The mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell" :p

@TyneeBubbles

4 ай бұрын

I'll never hear "electrolytes" said any other way 😂

@BrandanLee

3 ай бұрын

@@Nikola_M -- An idiot drank 1000 Brawdos. This is what happened to his electrolytes.

Literally paused this video to finally go watch The Lego Movie for the first time when you mentioned it, and honestly I was NOT disappointed! Thanks for the kick on the butt with that one!

I haven't seen this take for 1984 and this is my take on it, 1984 is a love story where love is forbidden.

@samlewis6487

8 күн бұрын

It's not. It's explicitly not.

@Sxcheschka

8 күн бұрын

@@samlewis6487 Could you please elaborate on what you mean?

it's so incredibly frustrating to see media that portrays poor people's bad living conditions as not as symptoms of mass disenfranchisement but just because they're dumb and don't know any better. the dehumanization that's applied there is insane, as if somehow poor, uneducated, or less smart people are incapable of wanting fulfilling lives that make them genuinely happy.

@jeffbrownstain

2 жыл бұрын

Even been in a youtube comment section of a modern news video?

@marciamakesmusic

2 жыл бұрын

@@jeffbrownstain point?

@jeffbrownstain

2 жыл бұрын

@@marciamakesmusic People actually think what OP is complaining about??? Ffs man

@ngotemna8875

2 жыл бұрын

@@jeffbrownstain Still see no point. Use more words, please

@WookieWarriorz

2 жыл бұрын

have you even seen the movie, at the very start it shows that the dumbest people are the only ones reproducing in this fictitious world

While acknowledging its many faults “Welcome to Costco, I love you” will stay in my heart forever

@emiliepryor51

2 жыл бұрын

Same. ❤️

@henrynelson9301

2 жыл бұрын

“Well, don’t want to sound like a dick or nothing, but… says on your chart that you’re fucked up.” is the best line in the movie

@emiliepryor51

2 жыл бұрын

@@henrynelson9301 what I’d do is like….ya know….huhuhuh….ya know what I mean? So that’ll be this many dollars.

@michelles9666

2 жыл бұрын

Also, Terry Crews’ enthusiasm for the film is pretty adorable.

@hamsters7760

2 жыл бұрын

Carl's Jr: Fuck you, I'm eating.

I feel like Idiocracy could be fixed without changing a large portion of the movie by expanding the Brawndo lore. Basically instead of blaming the increased stupidity on genetics it would be along the lines of "Brawndo and other corporations bought out the government and controlled the flow of information to, over the course of 400 years, form one single mega corporation that was ruled by a small handful of people who actually knew what was going on while the majority of the population was fed lies to make them stupid and complacent, but then ~100 years ago an accident caused by stupidity caused that mega corporation's headquarters to collapse, killing everyone who was still smart. Then the people who were able to claim power were those who were dogmatic enough to maintain that state of stupidity, which is why Brawndo's current CEO is an idiot, too." Do that and then use Frito Pendejo to show people can learn instead of keeping him stupid and the movie actually works

The thing about IQ is though that even if you do believe that it's real and exists and all, this film does kind of assume that, like Sarah says in the video, that it can't change, it's something you're born with. But that isn't even true. IQ CAN definitely change. By learning, practicing, good education and a challenging environment, people can actually get smarter. So it'd be one thing if the film ended with Joe teaching the people around him stuff and them learning things.

@christians7917

Ай бұрын

Sure, you can improve your IQ to a certain degree - just as you can train your muscles to a certain degree. But that goes only so far. Genetics set limits to what's achievable. And these limits vary wildly. If low IQ people are continuously outbreeding high IQ people, or in other words, if we keep selecting for low intelligence, then the genetically determined upper limit for what can be achieved will get lower and lower until not even fully optimized environmental factors can compensate for the lowered genetic potential. Incidentally, we seem to have already crossed that threshold as the reversal of the Flynn effect throughout the developed world is indicating.

@thepinkestpigglet7529

Ай бұрын

​@@christians7917 the average IQ score has gotten higher in the past century.

@christians7917

Ай бұрын

@@thepinkestpigglet7529 Yes, because environmental factors like nutrition, healthcare and education were massively improved. This led to an increase in phenotypic intelligence - the so called Flynn effect. However, the gains in measured intelligence only masked a simultaneous decrease in genetotypic IQ, i.e. the genetically determined potential for intelligence. You can optimize environmental factors only so much. After a certain point, when you have exhausted your ability to further optimize, underlying genetic trends can no longer be masked. That's why the Flynn effect has gone into reverse. Just google it, if you don't believe me. IQ scores are declining throughout the developed world. Humanity is getting dumber.

@christians7917

29 күн бұрын

@@thepinkestpigglet7529 The Flynn effect has already gone in reverse and troughout the developed world IQ scores have been declining for decades.

@christians7917

28 күн бұрын

@@thepinkestpigglet7529 It's kinda frustrating how the censorship AI keeps deleting my replies.

So the takeaway is, "Never attribute to stupidity that which is adequately explained by malice".

@missybarbour6885

2 жыл бұрын

I was thinking this EXACT same thing

@endymallorn

2 жыл бұрын

I go in a slightly different direction - "never attribute to malice or stupidity that which is adequately explained by laziness".

@Guimhj

2 жыл бұрын

It's systems, bro

@raro344

2 жыл бұрын

Malice and stupidity are not so far away.

@thepagecollective

2 жыл бұрын

These are all great theories when you didn't grow up in places where you were the only smart kid in class, and everyone hated you for it. That was the 70s and 80s. Everyone is so protected now, protected enough that the dumb mean majority is only a theory.

You didn't go deep into Buck v. Bell (obviously, that would have derailed the video) but the story of what happened to her is just so awful on so many levels. Her mother was placed in the Virginia State Colony for Epileptics and Feebleminded after being abandond by her husband and being accused of being a sex worker. Carrie was placed with foster parents who used her as unpaid labour around the house. She was raped and impregnated by the nephew of her foster mother, and then the foster parents had her committed to the VSC and adopted her baby after it was born (the baby, Vivian, died age eight of colitis.) Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, writing on her case, famously wrote that "three generations of imbeciles is enough" (three generations = Carrie's mother, Carrie herself, and Vivian, although there is zero evidence that either Carrie or Vivian were in any way developmentally delayed.) Carrie's sister Doris was also sterilized - without her knowledge, when she went to get her appendix removed. She didn't find out what had happened or why she'd been unable to have children until decades later. Just absolutely shameful all the way down.

@brib6046

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for going into this further. I wanted to look into it but I knew it would be horrific and I am sad to see I was right.

@heatherlee2967

2 жыл бұрын

+

@jackriver8385

2 жыл бұрын

that is heartbreaking

it's not all about low IQs, but also (and mainly) about accepting what you've been told by "authority" as truth.

@xe-wf5iv

5 ай бұрын

Accepting what you have been told at face value does make you low IQ though.

@unclekarl5219

5 ай бұрын

No it’s mostly about low IQ, removing the motive behind “authority” (an abstract concept anyway) lying and just saying it’s cos they’re stupid.

@miguelvelez7221

4 ай бұрын

Well then there's this thing called "merit". Expert says: "Disease X is spread via inhaling what others breathe out. Masking in the population should help blunt the penetration into the population." Now, non-expert says: "Nuh-Huh, it's all a hoax, plus masks don't work, in fact you could harm yourself by being masked for hours..." Merit. The merit of KNOWING that there are people who work at jobs and in industries where they are masked for hours, some up to seven or eight hours at a time. From doctors and surgeons to construction workers. If "masking" has long term physical issues we would know about it by now, yes? Merit. Sometimes folks "questioning" authority are just posing as "Rebels" and in fact are just adults stuck in an adolescent mind set.

I saw this in its first week in the cinema in Houston. I now feel very fortunate. I had no idea how limited the release was!

Fun fact: Buck v Bell was never overturned and is still on the books to this day

@DichotomousRex

2 жыл бұрын

Fun fact: The Black Parade came out 15 years ago oh sorry i thought we were saying unfun fun facts

@cachetelapa6923

2 жыл бұрын

Fun fact: We miss you :(

@warlordofbritannia

2 жыл бұрын

I mean technically, but it’s effectively been de-fanged by subsequent legislations and other court decisions… Still be nice to get rid of it entirely though, wouldn’t it? Edit: Yes, yes it would, if only to make sure the issue wouldn’t return someday, under a thin veneer of respectability. Evils are better left crushed than disassembled, lest they return in new guises in greater strength.

@KatKomodo

2 жыл бұрын

@@DichotomousRex Just let people live my dude. I hope you have a good day.

@suzanne1995

2 жыл бұрын

We miss you so much

Imagine being the poor Starbucks cog that signed off on letting Mike Judge use your brand name without asking for a screenplay excerpt.

@GigasGMX

2 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure that using a brand's name to refer to that brand is Fair Use anyway; movie executives are just cowards.

@ve1vetica861

2 жыл бұрын

@@GigasGMX it’s only fair use if it’s not defamatory i believe, when referring to a company in a neutral way it’s allowed but if you paint them in a negative light it can be grounds to sue… i’m not a lawyer though so my understanding might be incorrect

@UnreasonableOpinions

2 жыл бұрын

@@ve1vetica861 Pure reference and simple depiction are fair use. You can say 'I got a Starbucks' and be fine, and you can have a picture of a Starbucks and be fine, but when you use the Starbucks in a creative and fictional way it's not the same thing. This isn't a reference or a depiction, it's a fictionalisation, and since proving transformative through parody is hard and the cases long, it's much easier to seek licensing.

@timothymenard1750

2 жыл бұрын

@@ve1vetica861 i imagine the way the brands are depicted would fall under parody/satire

@daveharrison84

2 жыл бұрын

Starbucks was also Dr Evil's headquarters. They seem fine with movies making fun of them.

I like how almost anyone who reads Discworld instantly becomes a huge fan and can't help geek out about it.

@robokill387

4 ай бұрын

I didn't like it personally.

@lqa77

3 ай бұрын

me neither. i've read about a half dozen, including what people consider the 'must reads' but they're just so incredibly boring to me@@robokill387

@samlewis6487

8 күн бұрын

​@@robokill387 Then you didn't get it

You've managed to articulate what I dislike about current comedy show hosts like Colbert, but couldn't place into words: The fact that simply quoting Trump in a funny voice presents him as a harmless buffoon, rather than a malicious person.

@johnharrison6745

7 ай бұрын

...when, the fact of the matter is, he's neither.

@MLBlue30

7 ай бұрын

​@@johnharrison6745Please, dont kiss any politicians ass.

@bixmcgoo5355

7 ай бұрын

​@@johnharrison6745lmao bro he's a moronic traitor who only looks out for himself. If you believe otherwise you should probably ask yourself why all of his people are flipping on him. Pro tip: you can't flip on someone who hasn't done something wrong

@Westcoastrocksduh

7 ай бұрын

@@johnharrison6745he turned into an elite puppet propagandist. So yes malicious.

@johnharrison6745

6 ай бұрын

@@Westcoastrocksduh *PROVE* it. 😏

Perhaps forming your political ideology around a 2000's sex comedy is (ironically) the most Idiocracy-like thing of all.

@Darthvader468

2 жыл бұрын

The real idiocracy was the friends se made along the way

@DrRyan82994

2 жыл бұрын

“It’s got what plants crave, it’s got electrolytes” “idiocracy is like real life, it’s a documentary”

@GoofRebelMusic

2 жыл бұрын

Did someone do that?

@j.2512

2 жыл бұрын

t. someone who formed it thanks to harry potter and john oliver

@ChrisMM65

2 жыл бұрын

@@j.2512 Huh?

Sarah saying that Idiocracy is not a documentary, is literally the dark souls of 1984 Comparisons

@omatofi

2 жыл бұрын

this comment is layered way more deeply than it should be for a 16 word sentence

@TheBonkleFox

2 жыл бұрын

Dark souls is old news now. It's the elden ring

@grimwatcher

2 жыл бұрын

@@omatofi you could say this is the dark souls of sentences

@MorbidMindedManiac

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheBonkleFox *Dark souls is elderly news I mean eldenly

@michael17776

2 жыл бұрын

vibeo gane,,,

Idiocracy and 1984 are a match made in Bad Political Comparison Heaven

@FabbrizioPlays

6 ай бұрын

New rule: anyone who can't explain the difference between 1984 and Brave New World is forbidden from making comparisons to either

@KellogsR-ny7ug

6 ай бұрын

The only part I really liked about 1984 was the part where the people are forced to rewrite history and create a false memory through repetition That was specific and something that we could experience Everything else felt kind of generic when it comes to distopian fiction. I suppose maybe 1984 is the precursor but like this video states anyone can call any political gathering or movement the thought police

@rawkhawk414

3 ай бұрын

Imagine calling a genre defining piece of fiction "generic". Lol! Like come on. You've acknowledged it as much yourself with your precursor comment. I won't get into it too much but I really enjoyed 1984. It had already been kind of hyped up to me by its cultural impact long before I ever decided to read it. It featured hopeless betrayal, a secret romance, and paranoia over the banality of evil, routine, and peer pressure. Like Idiocracy is discussed in this video, 1984 is very of its time--despite often being called ahead of it. Unlike Idiocracy it was written in such a way and came out at a time that many still like to discuss it and use it for lessons today. Although it'd be weird for me to say "unlike Idiocracy" as the first time I saw Idiocracy was in 2009-2010 high school geography class, as my teacher thought it'd be a funny watch that ultimately made reference to things like pollution, population, world economies. I didn't notice more awkward critique-able elements then, but I do now. I didn't love Sarah's breakdown of the movie, but I understand a lot of where her ideas are coming from. I am all for talking about fiction. All in all I would watch this movie again lol. @@KellogsR-ny7ug

@KRobinson-ko1ne

3 ай бұрын

What I meant to say was that when reading 1984 it’s difficult to decipher Orwells true views and what society he’s reflecting on. I’ve listened to so many biographies on Orwell and they all paint him in a different light. When I read about suppression of feelings or individuality and when you think of other people’s extreme reactions to alternate societal structures you’re not sure if that what George is trying to do. For all I know 1984 is red scare material Then again you could say I developed that outlook from hearing every faction mentioning 1984 Big Brother or the Thought Police to make strawman statements

Oh c'mon, you can't say the Brawndo thing is the only memorable/funny thing about this movie. Upgrayedd actually going to the future in the aftercredits scene, after being built up the entire film, kills me everytime. Plenty of lines and jokes beyond Brawndo have made their way into pop culture, just look at this comment section for examples. Camacho is a really memorable, often quoted role of Crews that he reprised at a campaign earlier this year to widespread publicity etc. I mean criticizing the Eugenics stuff is fair (although also clearly unintentional and not really worth talking about for an hour) but I do think the movie is remembered for it's humor first and it's politicization second.

Judges point at 44:39 that 'the fictional not smart family kids should be adopted by the fictional smart families' (To be saved from their situations) gave horrfying flashbacks to Australia's Stolen Generation, where even up to the 1970s 'mixed-race' indigenous peoples were being taken away from their communities and segregated to make them forcefully assimilate with 'white society', with estimates as high as 1 in 3 children taken from their families. This coincided with 1/4 million different non-indigenous children also removed from families who were deemed 'unfit to raise' during the 1900's. Words cannot express the harm those ideologies have already caused.

@ellenh5468

2 жыл бұрын

Also it disproves the point of the movie, if it's not actually a fictionally genetically inferior being raised by different parents.

@lilyoftheveil666

2 жыл бұрын

We had similar policies here in Canada

@JC-jd1us

2 жыл бұрын

I remember watching Rabbit Proof Fence if you want a disturbing visual of what this person is talking about.

@MrNateM

2 жыл бұрын

He did not say "should" or really even imply it. It blows my mind that people are reading Mike Judge as literally genocidal as a knee jerk reaction because A reminds them of B. Rather than think "maybe that reads differently to me or some of the context is lost on the page - or maybe he just didn't phrase things well" people - including Sarah - are assuming that someone who they know expresses empathy across the board is actually advocating something totally insane and contrary to everything we know about him. It's so mean spirited, and unkind to the people you criticize that way.

@doreengreen3287

2 жыл бұрын

And residential schools in the US and Canada fro Native American/First Nations children.

Both my dad and maternal grandmother grew up in abject poverty and have siblings in the double digits. I grew up comfortably middle class and only have two siblings. It's almost as if there isn't a genetic trait that makes people breed a lot and there's actually socio-economical reasons. Hmmm...

@guardianeris

2 жыл бұрын

I mean there are studies in my country showing that many a time poorer families end up having more children not because of limitation arguments about birth control, sex ed and whatever else related to the topic of birthing children being inaccessible, which to me either way come off as hella classist and dehumanizing with its "the dumb poor people don't know better/can't do better" underlying message. Even with the exposition to birth control methods and knowledge on how to use them, they still opt for more children, and it stems from the concern that not having much money saved up nor having lifelong opportunities and stable jobs that can prep you up for retirement, having children that you can rely on as a support network is a really good and reliable choice, so you won't end up literally suffering and perhaps even starving on the end of your life. Same studies show that when education level, mainly the mother's education level, increase, their number of children decrease, which is not because "the mother knows better than to pop another one," like many a shallow eugenic arguer would say, but can firmly be attributed to the fact that more education equals more opportunities. But ofc people don't want to give the poor more opportunities so they can get out of poverty, that costs a lot of money, and requires a lot of infrastructure reforms and social changes, it's easier to say that the poor are "dumb" and "proliferate like rabbits."

@sammosaurusrex

2 жыл бұрын

V off topic, but I first learned the word “Socio-Economic” from the first Ratchet and Clank game, where a plumber says he is trapped on a planet being invaded because of “socio-economic disparity,” to which Clank clarifies for Ratchet (and me, the young audience) “He hasn’t got enough bolts!” Given the formulaic sci-fi family comedy route the series progressed into, it’s kind of funny/incredible to me that Ratchet’s original character was basically an edgy working class Gen X’er - a cynical guy who just wanted to fix up his car but got dragged on an anti-corporate, anti-media, anti-celebrity/hero worship adventure by a naive robot learning about society for the first time.

@McKiwi2

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah no, I had a lot of issues with the basis of this video hinging entirely on the silent implications that eugenics and the society is biologically incapable of having a high IQ, being the main take away. Especially when in the same breadth of the argument, shows that IQ isn't something that is accurate or even limited to being passed through genetics --and I agree that IQ/GQ is _not_ an indicative factor of one's intelligence or overall capabilities. Sarah also touches base a few times that socio-economic standing has a role to play, but points it at eugenics again, rather than that in a capitalistic society, having more money means having more resources to be not only healthier but smarter, even with neurological deficiencies. I agree with a few of the other points she brought up, but the constant circling back to eugenics kept bothering me, because the tie in felt far too loose to be the main subject for the movie.

@DieAlteistwiederda

2 жыл бұрын

Also back in the day more kids also just meant it was more likely to have some that survive to then be able to take care of you or take over a family business or something like that. My maternal grandpa was one of 12 children, one of the youngest I believe, and born in 1904. My maternal grandma was born in 1924 and only had one younger half-brother. Even those 20 years already made people change a lot, birthrates already fell around that time here in Germany not just because of better medicine but also WWI and all the other shit going down in Europe around that time. My dad had three brothers and my mom was the oldest of 5, dad died and so did his older brother and mom is still alive but now has only 3 siblings left. 4 and 5 kids was perfectly reasonable in the 1950 in East Germany. Meanwhile I sometimes get weird looks because I have two older full-siblings, most people here that are about my age only have one sibling or if more they are half-siblings.

@scz1770

2 жыл бұрын

right? My grandpa was one of 11 and was the son of migrant workers who were literally dirt poor. My lower-middle class grandma had three kids right out of high school, but grabbed birth control the second it was available. My mom was the only child of my grandma who had more than one kid, and my aunt never had any. It's almost like....having access to family planning and contraception....helps people....fascinating.

The fact that we use clothing, shoes, accesories, and we have names. Is the best way to realize how dumb we are as animals.

Debunkings of Bush-era narratives about “stupid people” like this are so healing for me. I grew up around many self-identified liberals and leftists who agreed with the ideas of Idiocracy. I always felt gross about it as a child, but I didn’t have the words or life experience to explain why. To be clear, having a gut reaction of disgust at this doesn’t make anyone morally superior. It was VERY easy to fall into it, because it was such a popular narrative. Arguably, it was the ONLY mainstream alternative narrative to “the status quo is good” that was even available at the time.

@rdrisms

6 ай бұрын

yeah, this was the time where the colbert report and the daily show were considered the cutting edge in terms of media that countered the mainstream

@NeutralDrow

6 ай бұрын

I still think the root idea came out of the 90s, when the moral of "understand where the other person is coming from" got a lot of emphasis. On the plus side, that's a really good sentiment for understand people outside your own cultural context. On the downside, it was immediately weaponized by people with cultural power as absolution. In the Bush era, that translated to "conservatives are too stupid to know better." Glad we're starting to get around to the idea that, sometimes, people genuinely _are_ evil, not just misunderstood.

@eatatjoes6751

6 ай бұрын

100%. I used to believe in this crap and got scared of a future like this. *looks at 2023/2024* DUMB HAS BUPKIS TO DO WITH OUR CIVILIZATION RIGHT NOW.

@blackpajamas6600

5 ай бұрын

What are the "ideas of Idiocracy"? That is, what principles and/or frameworks undergird the narrative? I didn't know the movie was espousing a static message, or that the writers had themes they were trying to develop.

@scout8145

5 ай бұрын

@@blackpajamas6600 idk i just got here

I'm an idiot and I'm choosing to have no children. By this movie's standard, a smart choice. But that choice means I am smart, and therefore have a duty to produce smart children. 😣 wat do

@pepi7404

2 жыл бұрын

Clearly, you should have children and then hand them over to people with big, strong, muscular brains to raise them properly.

@mechanomics2649

2 жыл бұрын

They cancel each other out and you no longer exist.

@thewitchdoctors749

2 жыл бұрын

Simple you adopt someone

@alterego6075

2 жыл бұрын

You're referencing the first 10 minutes that was based in present time...and that paved the way to "ButtFukkrs" and "St God's Hospital" lol. And if you watched the movie...the people "choosing" when/if to have children...ultimately discovered they couldn't even conceive. Carl's Jr.!!

@jerinmathew4726

2 жыл бұрын

Get pregnant 13 times, abort 6 babies, raise 6 and have one as backup whose fate is decided by the first exams it takes

Sarah getting an increasingly bigger and more elaborate teacup seems like an SCP

@mariamatedei

2 жыл бұрын

lmao

@Speederzzz

2 жыл бұрын

It's one, shapeshifting cup that wants to be popular

@darkseid1975

2 жыл бұрын

I now want fanart of her holding a cup the size of Michigan Stadium.

@Kyrielsh1

2 жыл бұрын

It's a bit disturbing tbh... It's like, a detail, y'know, "focus on the depth", but still... :-P

@Torlik11

2 жыл бұрын

Sarah is actually an extention of the cup, only the cup is real

We arent heading towards Idiocracy. We're heading towards WALL-E.

As a poor person that grew up in the rural Ozarks, I understand that it's socio-economic advantage and not genetics that is the root cause here. So I think your analysis is good, in that respect. The thing is though, the end result is still the same: A large swath of the voting population are ignorant boobs. The longer the wealth gap (and corresponding gap in education) between rich and poor remains, and the wider it gets (and let's acknowledge- it's still getting wider), the more and more we become like the sports drink swilling zhlubs in this film. So, no- it's not a documentary, it's just bad satire. But give it time. A few decades from now, you might just be unpleasantly surprised (though, I won't be).

As an Irish person listening to the intro for the movie, alarm bells immediately started ringing. The Famine in Ireland only had such devastating impacts because of the philisophical idea and fear that poor people were reproducing too much. Minimal supports were put in to help us because they thought that the potato blight was natural selection and was supposed to regualate the apparent issue of "too many poors." The person who implemented most of these policies, Robert Peel is still venerated by many people and John Stuart Mills who came up with the philisophical idea is still highly respected in many spaces. This film is the epitome of classist ideas that have serious impacts and its heartbreaking that 200 years since the Irish people were ravaged by the famine, we still have to explain why poor people deserve basic fucking human rights. Update: if youre looking for resources to learn about the famine, the documentary The Hunger is really great. Also if youre looking for a good famine film Arracht is the best by far

@IsaacMayerCreativeWorks

2 жыл бұрын

Idiocracy is unironically reflecting the dehumanizing viewpoint that Jonathan Swift was making fun of with “A Modest Proposal”

@starlight8554

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve lived in Ireland since I was 8 and my family is from India so I felt this to my core too

@LegendLeaguer

2 жыл бұрын

@@starlight8554 that's an insane position on the British-fucking-over-their-colonies Venn Diagram

@davidnotonstinnett

2 жыл бұрын

The entire selling point of agricultural ,and then industrial, society is the idea that people won’t just starve to death. Famine is always a political choice.

@erin9868

2 жыл бұрын

This isnt even an old, outdated idea. There are still people in ireland and elsewhere who believe the poor, stupid people who starved couldn't possibly have benefited from the food that was exported during the famine bc they couldn't have been taught to prepare them, what with them being so stupid and all. During the famine, a lot of oats were exported. Oats traditionally fed to horses and livestock and oats that took a long time to prepare for human consumption. Bc irish poor at the time were unfamiliar with its preparation, ppl today still argue that it should have been exported, despite being more than enough to feed the entire nation, since it would have been wasted on them. People who watched their loved ones starved to death wouldn't have bothered learning to make oatmeal or oatcakes or oatbread? Wtf. What they mean is, they were too stupid to learn and good riddance.

something that was very strange to my family when we fled to the US was how people treated George Bush as a "fratboy" or an idiot: like this man literally destroyed two nations, led to millions of Middle Easterners to flee their countries and maybe never go back and none of the commentary touched on it?? like where was the stuff bringing up Abu Ghraib prison or the long term effects of the wars the US was entering? He wasn't a stupid man. It was just shocking to see the difference between how people in Iraq treated him as this capable leader who's decisions were actively affecting millions to just an idiot in the US. idk just something that I've noticed. Great video Sarah!!

@lyracakes6912

2 жыл бұрын

like even now when I think of Bush I think of this guy who led to so much suffering and led to a lot of trends that still affect people today, not a guy who went from an idiot to someone who "draws paintings" and is so much better now- idk it seems like the criticisms of the 2000s being so superficial have laid the groundwork for the rehabilitation of the same people

@nykcarnsew2238

2 жыл бұрын

Americans esp back then have to think of their leaders as idiots because it reflects less badly on them than accepting their government is downright evil

@pequin3834

2 жыл бұрын

same with trump. so much commentary seems to boil down to "orange man stupid" and like no. he made it to be president, he harmed a lot of people and he did so knowingly and intentionally.

@captainhaddock6435

2 жыл бұрын

@@lyracakes6912 I think that's due to Dick Cheney being the "mastermind" behind all this evil stuff. GW really was just a blithering idiot who let Cheney pull the strings

@jazwhoaskedforthis

2 жыл бұрын

I think he’s not the brightest, but just painting him as this dummy takes away from the agency and the fact that he knowingly did or oversaw all of those things.

Terry Crews is an actor playing a wrestler who became a president. Trump was a businessman who played a wrestler that became the president. Therefor real life is closer to Idiocracy than the movie...

This is one of my favorite video essays! I'm always linking it to people, you've changed a lot of minds!

@alexklepp6479

Ай бұрын

Ditto. This and her West Elm Caleb have been some of my favorite videos she’s done.

10:00 King of the Hill "was an attempt to show how mindsets like this work and why people are like this." Mike Judge did an interview with NPR. One of the most interesting tid bits is the inspiration for King of the Hill. After he moved to Texas, a big storm blew down his fence. All the neighbors showed up and helped him fix it. This became the inspiration for King of the Hill. A show "about neighbors who... ultimately, do the right thing and do right by people and are basically good people."

@fordshojoe8080

Жыл бұрын

Makes sense If you watch the show.

@werbnaright5012

Жыл бұрын

Pretty sure there's also an interview where he states he received an angry phonecall from someone with a "deranged hillbilly" accent and decided it sounded funny, so he used it. So, little of column a, little of column b.

“Idiocracy is a documentary” has the same vibes as “this is the moment Walter white became Heisenberg”

@amaravazquez8591

2 жыл бұрын

Or "The Simpsons predicted it". Like, no dude, you just think that because all you know is the show and don't realize that most of society's issues predate the Simpsons and just haven't been solved yet.

@kamrynm9780

2 жыл бұрын

This is the moment rocks became minerals

@jeffersonclippership2588

2 жыл бұрын

Brabo Bince

@4203105

2 жыл бұрын

@@amaravazquez8591 with the Simpsons it's more the case, that they threw so much at the wall, during their long run, some things inevitably stick.

@mechanomics2649

2 жыл бұрын

Also "Hideo Kojima was a prophet for that one clip in Metal Gear Solid 2".

This video and the comment section are at least as dystopian as Idiocracy

@OK-wm2mr

4 ай бұрын

How?

@AntediluvianDoomer

4 ай бұрын

@@OK-wm2mr Empty gesticulating schoolmarm moralism posing as intellectual discourse, it's obvious what I meant but if you can't see it, nothing I can say will make you understand. That's the dystopian part.

@mossymoose8920

2 күн бұрын

@@AntediluvianDoomerand you’re posing as an intellectual, funny how that works

I was watching it for the first time and I was struck with how dirty and in poor conditions the “Dumb” people of the film lived in. It just reminds me of how wealthy people are often innately characterized as being clean and neat whereas the poor are characterized as negligent and dirty. It just reaffirms biases established by our dehumanizing capitalistic power structures.

@johnmacrae2006

6 ай бұрын

@carlosfromearth It’s generally accurate.

@twigwigsoso

6 ай бұрын

it's crazy when the rich are usually only so clean because people are doing all the labor for them and the history of higiene and the rich

@tortellinifettuccine

5 ай бұрын

Everyone was dumb that was the point...there was no...oh my God I thought only conservatives were dumb enough to create ideas in their head about what something they watched is and believe them as fact....

@mariealba4158

5 ай бұрын

That is entirely true. Although I want to believe that the filmmakers would certainly make other choices in todays society. It obviously wasn't a correct characterization, nor should it have been okay to portray such a characterization without any criticism on it, but I do think back in the 2000s these things just werent seen as shitty as they are now and were even more widely accepted than they are now. But I do think viewing this movie again and critiquing it is a great thing because as it seems many people love to point to it for absolutely no reason.

@shmooptydoopty7355

5 ай бұрын

It takes money to afford nice skincare and hair products. Clothing wears down and shoes fall apart. I found half my furniture by the dumpster neighbors move out.

The jetskie thing pretty explicitly states that the world would be better if a "genetically inferior" person was sterilized. That's not a eugenics undertone, that's a eugenics overtone. As in, if a teacher was trying to explain eugenics that would be the type of example they'd give.

@TheLastSane1

2 жыл бұрын

Not really especially since by then that guy had about a dozen (11) children and several grandchildren. Eugenics would more that the guy should have been sterilized before having kids. Not saving a dudes dick because he got drunk and impaled his dick on a pole is hardly eugenics. Thats letting stupidity have a consequence. (He then went on to father 5 more kids one with his daughter-in-law)

@davidm1926

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheLastSane1 Imagine a stupid guy who has had eleven children, and who will have five more if he is not sterilized. What Would a Eugenicist Do? Preventing the existence of five more undesirables is hardly closing the barndoor after the horses got out - I mean, unless there are still five horses in the barn. (eugenics bad, obviously)

@TheLastSane1

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidm1926 So you believe people who do dangerous stupid things should be rewarded for their actions and allowed to continue. Thats fair enough. But I also don't think the rest of society should have to take care of this guys endless amount of children (To be clear he has something above 20 by the end of it) . Realistically how likely is it that this man can care for 1 child let alone 20+ children? I would say very little given that all of people I know in my rural red state can't without government assistance. So and this is entirely hyperbole of course as its fictional but would you even say he is spending 1$ on each child as compared to 100$ from the government (From you and me and everyone else?) No thats not even really close is it? It would be more like 1000$ for every 1$ he spends on his kids. At that point John Smith across the country has a more of a financial burden put on them by these kids than this guy does. So why do you think you should be supporting someone elses children while they don't and just go on to have more? Explain to me the mindset and explanation of why that is a sustainable concept because remember its not just the one guy doing this. Its tens of millions of them in the US alone.

@discolemonade719

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheLastSane1 if you don’t think that we as a society should take care of kids regardless of who their parents are or what their life circumstances are, you are already too far gone my guy

@TheLastSane1

2 жыл бұрын

@@discolemonade719 So you aren't very caught up on environmental sciences huh. Look up unsustainable population growth. See it would be fine, ok not fine but you understand, if those million people were having 20+ kids each or so. The trouble is that they aren't the only ones having kids. We have around 258 million adults in this country and we assume mated pairs thats 129 million pairs. For this example we are gonna assume that everyone just has the one mate and all their children are from this pairing. Now lets assume that 129 million has 10 kids each so thats 1.29 billion children (happy birthday!) Thats population three times higher than the US has right now (3.6) Do you believe our country both economically and agriculturally can sustain an additional amount? That 1.6 billion Americans could sustain themselves on the current rate of food and resource growth? Or would we need to start leveling forests and plains to expand those population centers, to grow more food, etc. Because you seem to think that we can. Tell me how. Let me be clear here. My father is 1 of 10 children which is why I went with the 10 children number and not the 20+ number of the movie.

re: Judges comments about giving the "stupid" children to the wealthy parents, and them turning out "better" that way. This also has a long and troubling history, (cough, cough) residential schools. It's not the defense against being eugenics-y he thinks it is.

@TheLastSane1

2 жыл бұрын

I mean what do you do with them then? Because thats sorta the problem at the root. What do you do when this guy who is not a good provider, not a good father, not a good role model and yet he insists on having more and more kids. While yes in rural communities sex ed is lacking (I say this as someone who is from those communities) they still know what birth control is and what a condom is. This notion that poor rural folks have never heard of a condom is honestly just stereotyping of rural communities by the left as being effectively stuck in 1930s. This guy's women (and I have no problem with him having multiple partners) all could go to the doctor and get birth control, could buy condoms, or just not fuck this dude. Each of his 16 kids right after the accident (I stop tracking by the 35 year later thing)(one of those 16 is with his daughter-in-law by the way) are not being given good lives. They probably do not have a lot to eat, to not have a good shot at education. I grew up as 1 of 5 and there have been times we have gone hungry because payday was a few more days off and my dad was making an ok living at the time and things just fell awkwardly. We had relatives to help us out and get us a few days worth of groceries but not everyone has that. Yeah the kids being adopted by wealthy people would be a boon to those kids. As for calling them "Stupid kids" thats not accurate either. Its kids replicating bad behavior they saw from their parents. Clevon Jr saw his father sleeping around and having a bunch of kids and it being fine and so he did the same thing. Yes Sarah is right there are a lot of economic reasons behind social behaviors but there is also just people doing something bad, and never being punished for it so they continue to do it.

@CharlotteSWeb-oh7ou

2 жыл бұрын

@Brandon Tran I'm pretty sure that 1) the problem was (also) that they were snatching children, and 2) the people running them were under the impression they were teaching people.

@horimiya7290

2 жыл бұрын

@@CharlotteSWeb-oh7ou you just said the exact same thing as they og comment??

@SoulDevoured

2 жыл бұрын

@@horimiya7290 being perceived as defending automatically makes it wrong. The director's response needs to be elaborated on by him if he meant to literally give the poor children to the wealthy couple. It is worth saying that that is a thing that happened and it wasn't good when done on any scale and it's also worth saying that that might not be what he meant.

@esteicy98

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheLastSane1 You need to understand sex education is way more than knowing what a condom is, it's something that should starts at childhood and should continue constantly as people grow, it's talking about consent, responsibility, respect, knowing your own body, etc. Poor people with no sex education are never made aware of the power they hold in their life decisions, and that's the problem that needs to be solved. You still paint poor people as stupid and deserving of "punishment" (which what would even be? Have their kids taken away? Being forcibly sterilized? There's a whole damn section talking about why that isn't okay). To make a real change you need to modify the whole system around those people, their whole life, since before birth, privileged people get to plan their parenthood so we should make sure that becomes the norm. Also let's not ignore the real BIG issues the adoption system has in the way it treats children, both the system and the adoptive parents, that slowly turned the whole thing into a business and is becoming more similar to human trafficking than a "couple trying to help kids get better lives". The amount of fuckers that "return" the kids when they are "too problematic" is sick.

The whole "kids raised by stupid people will turn out stupid" is just... So wrong? People famously do not turn out like their parents and instead rebel against them

@patriciaszabo8015

4 ай бұрын

You need support to rebel. Yeah money, knowledge and time.

@Damesanglante

4 ай бұрын

Wow, you clearly know nothing about rebels.

"It wasn't my intent!" Meanwhile the ending of the movie... I really like a lot of the comedy in the movie. It was a big stress relief valve for me when it first came out. But it's also really important to have conversations like this and admit that some things we like or liked have really big problems attached to them.

Sarah: "Weirdly enough there is an actual movie in which an average guy in a consumer driven, dumb downed, propaganda filled world is placed in a position of importance over everyone else and has to deal with going from being a normal person to a savior of humanity... Me: THEY LIVE Sarah: It's called the LEGO Movie Me: *surprised Pikachu*

@Wolfbarr01

Жыл бұрын

@@bohrturm_Z17 what the fuck? when did this get biblical, its a meme comment on a video about a movie (that i personally didn't like) that has nothing to do with the bible.

@Wolfbarr01

Жыл бұрын

@@bohrturm_Z17 it's a movie about fucking eugenics. i don't remember that passage of the bible.

@crys_cornflakez

Жыл бұрын

Me when I’m an idiot forced to solve a mystery and become a master sorcerer to save my family from being mass murdered by a witch on our private island

I about died at "literally 1984" with the flash of Taylor Swift wasn't ready to laugh that hard this morning Also, the whole eugenics problem with the movie feels like a failed attempt to use the poor trope known as "oppressed mages" in the fantasy/spec fic writing circles. Oh these poor mages/tech wizards/intelligent people, they can't help but be oppressed by all these non-special people around them

@warlordofbritannia

2 жыл бұрын

It makes sense when the mages are both an extreme minority and are actively being persecuted by the state, as in the Witcher 3 But for the most part, yeah I’ve read scenarios where I’m scratching my head the whole time thinking “just magic your way out!”

@zcritten

2 жыл бұрын

@@warlordofbritannia Dragon age does this too ,where mages are shown to be so stupidly powerful it makes sense why a lot of people have some issue with them, and even makes the player experience it, with the first game having you do some magic school hijinks if you pick mage that you would get killed for if you weren't saved by the main plot I think the "oppressed mages" fails when it doesn't fully establish the extent or reason for that oppression, or just makes everyone be like "a solution to world hunger and infinite energy? but some of you do big spell that hurt so we must ban this forever"

@warlordofbritannia

2 жыл бұрын

@@zcritten Oh right, forgot about the Mages and Templars in Dragon Age…that’s one that really delves into why mages are kept separate from greater society

@JeevesAnthrozaurUS

2 жыл бұрын

When you want to tell a story about people with cool powers, but have no idea how to make them sympathetic, so you construct a world where special and cool people are oppressed for being special and cool

@jpgextinction

2 жыл бұрын

Aka league of legends' "oh no the purebred blonde/blue eyed pale skinned anime girl is sad" """lore"""

Thanks so much Sarah, ever since I watched this movie a few years after it came out, I never felt like going back and watching it again. Friends of mine have said they thought it was hilarious and mentioned it as prophetic, and I've just never been able to put into words why it bugged me. I may go back for another watch some time and reflect on the ideas you've shared. When we dismiss others as ignorant and assume we know what moves them, we only make ourselves more ignorant. Compassionate understanding is the only way we'll pull ourselves together as a species.

This is the first of your videos that I've seen, and definitely not the last. I'd be fascinated to learn how you came to achieve such an insightful and reasoned perspective. Very well done... and BTW you have a beautiful musical voice. Warmest regards from Japan, where the cherry trees are in full bloom and the air is filled with the scent of their flowers.

I’m no forensic pathologist, but I’m thrilled to be here for this autopsy

@meloplenty

2 жыл бұрын

lpppp

Linking racism to stupidity also makes it super difficult to point out others racist behavior, because to them, you may as well be calling them a dumb hick.

@essr4580

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed, I know quite a few well educated racists

@jazwhoaskedforthis

2 жыл бұрын

I often just cut right to calling them dumb hicks, as someone raised by dumb hicks I claim that right. But it isn’t productive at all for most people. I didn’t want to be a dumb hick and that aversion pushed me to question my environment, but for a lot of people they’ll just dig their heels in. It’s not productive if you really want to get people to start thinking about your perspective or change. Well educated racists can still be dumb, a failure in how your schema for the world is built can still make very educated folks believe some truly irrational things. I do think it is stupid and wrong, but it isn’t going to convince them or encourage them to admit that. People try to protect their egos.

@theschizo5783

2 жыл бұрын

yep while blatent racism based on stupidity is harmful the real harm comes from scientific racism and the use of it to justify racist laws

@GayTier1Operator

2 жыл бұрын

well they are. ignorance isn’t something to run from

@GayTier1Operator

2 жыл бұрын

Ess R well educated has nothing to do with ignorance. ppl can have education in some areas and not others. it’s still a problem of education at the end of the day

I think the movie is a concept that works only initially, but like a lot of media when you think critically it becomes awful

the rick and morty of movies. I swear to god if I hear anyone call this movie a documentary one more time I'm blowing myself up.

forced sterilization is so saddening one of my dads close friend’s wife was forcefully sterilized in the 80s, maybe even the 90s (i live in alberta) shes autistic and indigenous always treated me and my sisters with love

@ataraxia7439

2 жыл бұрын

That’s horrific

@heatherlee2967

2 жыл бұрын

I'm so sorry she's gone through something so horrible. I hope she is living In peace now. Sending good vibes~

@ThatMans-anAnimal

2 жыл бұрын

Doesn't mean she should reproduce.

@emiliavachon

2 жыл бұрын

@@ThatMans-anAnimal bud that’s eugenics

@Virjunior01

2 жыл бұрын

That has nothing to do with this movie, and it's real fucked up the author claims it does.

Anyone who has ever actually been around academics can tell you that IQ is nonsense and there is no such thing as general intelligence. My old math professor is literally one of the foremost experts in the field of mathematics and man frequently had to cancel lectures because the projector was "broken". It turned out someone had unplugged it and he didn't know how to plug it back in again. Guy could divide 10 digit numbers in his head and could barely turn a computer on.

@JacksonBockus

2 жыл бұрын

I worked with a man who couldn’t add two-digit numbers together and reliably get the right answer who was one of the best software engineers I’ve known. Do you think if he met your math prof they would annihilate?

@moviesiveseen7408

2 жыл бұрын

Have you considered the possibility that he was, in fact, capable of managing a projector, and cancelled lectures for any myriad of reasons, but then used the projector malfunction as an excuse?

@bort6459

2 жыл бұрын

Man, when I was in my undergrad it was the opposite. Academic challenges of IQ were fairly new and I had proffers chew me out for suggesting it was flawed (not even nonsense just had glaring problems). This was 2009. Not recent but not that long ago.

@creature6715

2 жыл бұрын

@@moviesiveseen7408 have you considered the possibility that being good at math doesn't magically grant you computer skills?

@claynorth964

2 жыл бұрын

uh, there is a TON of replicated research showing the effectiveness of IQ tests......which are done by academics. you are clearly speaking about a topic you know little about.

It's more of a futuristic mockumentary.

Thia is my second time watching this video, and I completely forgot you mentioning that you were getting inti Discworld at the end. God, those books are god damn amazing.

I have this deep rooted memory of watching a movie with my Dad at the age of 8 where a character goes and watches a movie named "Ass" and the movie ends up being just a shot of some guys Butt for an hour. Today I found out what the name of that movie is.

@SlapstickGenius23

Жыл бұрын

I watched that movie. But as I say, it’s definitely a fun comedy about the impact of stereotypes on us human beings.

You hit the nail on the head. Intellectual snobbery does nothing to actually discredit your opponent, explain why your position is better, or persuade anyone who's not already in the elitist club. It just denegrates all poor people and treats their concerns as stupid, and you aren't going to win over anyone by saying everything they are and everything they care about is stupid.

@user-be5kj1bw3d

2 жыл бұрын

"Won't someone think of the conservatives and their concerns of *checks notes* wanting to kill left-wingers more than even their literal survival?" Yeah, let's NOT care what conservatives think they want and have been programmed to care about. Better to figure out how to work around the roadblocks than see what they want to do to us.

@BEASLAND000

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly it was this attitude by the liberals that gave trump his victory. Sure he’s a demagogue but he at least made the right not feel like they were children being tut tutted to by a obscenely rich person drinking sustainably sourced wine from their Malibu mansion. Had the democrats embraced the working class and enacted policies to help elevate them and care for them, we probably would be living in a mostly blue country by now

@user-be5kj1bw3d

2 жыл бұрын

@@BEASLAND000 The right should not exist. Let's not play "you made us elect a monster to destroy our and your futures". They knew what they were doing, and they just didn't and don't care. Say what you will about Malibu Liberal, their apathy will at least make them less interested in COMPLETE self-destruction and active malice! Right wingers in the clothing of "the working class" are a disease, not poor little lambs who'd surely stop trying to kill us if we asked nicely and spoke to them in a language they understand- just how stupid do you think they are? They're- to a large extent- knowingly and enthusiastically acting to serve evil, not blind and need to be treated as such.

@loeyfletcher7001

2 жыл бұрын

On the first day of class My ethics professor talked about how debating someone is respecting them because you’re saying no mater how ignorant your point of view is at the moment, I believe your can learn/grow. It definitely changed how I look at arguments.

@user-be5kj1bw3d

2 жыл бұрын

@@loeyfletcher7001 I mean, that's an entirely reasonable and accurate argument- and precisely why you DON'T debate conservatives. A belief in their ability to grow or change shouldn't be assumed as their default, it's an optimistic hope for the ones that can still be salvaged.

That time a comedy accidentally adapted Plato's Republic

The fact that she said that bill maher is aweful and its the only show still around LEGENDARY

Thank you for calling out IQ test. I’ve always wondered why people take them so seriously when it’s impossible to quantify intelligence based on a test only surveying certain forms of intelligence. And that’s not even getting into how the IQ test is culturally biased.

@Hotdogenthusiast

2 жыл бұрын

A test in which you can study for to get a higher score means the test isn’t really studying your natural ability but rather your ability to learn, memorize, and absorb information and your dedication. If you explain to someone the concepts inside of an IQ test and teach them how to solve similar questions, then the next time they take it they’ll score higher. So yeah I agree with you, the IQ test is flawed and not the only indicator of intelligence

@Treppy_Gecky

2 жыл бұрын

@@Hotdogenthusiast Plus who is to say being able to memorize information is intelligence anyways? There are so many types of intelligence that it would be impossible to create an all encompassing test.

@yoshiforpm

2 жыл бұрын

IQ tests obviously aren’t accurate with great precision, but I can confidently say as someone who has worked in fields that used related tests, they do a perfectly fine job for the basic sorting purpose that they were originally designed for.

@kevindavid6094

2 жыл бұрын

@@Treppy_Gecky The original intelligence test was made by the Binet and Simon in France for educational placement, so it was made specifically to judge how well people function in academic situations, where memorizing information and ability to juggle numbers in your head and know vocabulary are indeed useful. The problem comes when people over-interpreted the hell out of it and it basically became an identity for a large portion of the population (MENSA isn't helping). I'm trained to administer modern IQ tests and its use outside of very specific (mostly academic) domains is moronic.

@yoshiforpm

2 жыл бұрын

Sure, an IQ of 110 versus 115 is almost certainly meaningless. But someone with an IQ of 75 is going to have trouble performing many tasks and someone with an IQ of 100 is not going to be a physicist and I would venture to guess that I could tell within a ten minute conversation with randomly-selected people of the same linguistic background with about 95% accuracy what standard deviation band someone falls into, and I suspect that most other educated observers could do the same.

What gets to me the most, is that people who often point to the movie as an example of 'predicting modern society', will perpetuate many of the same traits shown by characters in it

@Omegashotgun

2 жыл бұрын

The fool never sees the puddle he's standing in. He just yells about how everyone else deserves to be wet too. You're exactly correct my friend.

@bakaichigo

2 жыл бұрын

This... :'D

@carlmarx7489

2 жыл бұрын

@you know this uh what

@bradzeringue6778

2 жыл бұрын

@you know this b b k

@morganalabeille5004

2 жыл бұрын

The top negative Letterboxd review for it has a ton of people in the replies yelling at the reviewer for overthinking the movie

19:56 NO not just poor people, that's the politically acceptable answer that the era's commercial climate could tolerate. They slightly addressd the "Smart Rich" people that put career first, but you could also apply that to career women, MGTOW, couples that via biological math can't have kids, the end of world trading, extreme franchise warfare and consumerism

I was still in my 20's in 2006. 28 years old. This is nothing new. And it's annoying when younger people think they know better.

I saw this movie in my English 1101 class. The teacher obviously thought we would be howling with laughter but everyone hated it. She literally said “I guess you guys are just too close to this being a reality to find it funny”

@kaylagilligan4919

2 жыл бұрын

I really want you to send them this video now

@m00nrac00n

2 жыл бұрын

When the English Teacher calls you poor and dumb, but the students are actually the smart ones. Would say Im suprised, but Im not.

@fisheyenomiko

2 жыл бұрын

Wow... please tell me she's no longer teaching... Jesus.

@Ruby_Star_

2 жыл бұрын

@@fisheyenomiko well the college shut down… so who knows ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@Paroex

2 жыл бұрын

I generously interpreted "you guys are just too close to this" not as calling the students dumb, but pointing out that they live in a world closely resembling the movie which would obviously make them less amused by it. No matter the actual intent of the statement, this teacher was way off base, though.

Academic Elitism is a major trouble that folks who pursue higher education fell into, and it's not something that is called out often enough. I'm about to graduate from Law School, and multiple friends (from both sides of the political spectrum) always point out that it's a given that we are smart and intelligent due to being in Law school. I always point out the multiple idiot attorneys that we've witnessed and heard about. I try to stress the point that being in Law School, or any higher education, does not automatically equate intelligence. At the end of the day, there are multiple ways to be intelligent, and there are multiple ways to be stupid. The important thing is to keep an open mind, learn how to listen, and how to accurately express yourself.

@heatherlee2967

2 жыл бұрын

This reminds me of Ben Carson, who is a pioneer in neurosurgery and published over 100 studies. He is also anti-vax

@kbyrne2011

2 жыл бұрын

@@heatherlee2967 didn't he also die from Covid?

@namingisdifficult408

2 жыл бұрын

@@kbyrne2011 He’s not dead yet.

@bokavordur

2 жыл бұрын

@@kbyrne2011 no, you're thinking of Herman Cain.

@lbchoc4

2 жыл бұрын

Yes!! One of the things I love about being in academia is that you can and should question and critically read everything you come across, no matter how well-known or respected the author is. I've come across plenty of papers that make me think "how did this get published??" And the flip-side is important too: some of the smartest people I know don't have PhDs or smart-sounding careers.

Not sure why this is in my suggested videos list... it's like a thousand shards of glass entering my brain.

"Ignore the opening" is something I hear from a lot of apologists for the film. "The rest is much better!" It's literally the framing device. It's a fundamental part of the text, and reinforced by the material that follows.

@AgeismGoesBothWays

9 ай бұрын

Everyone wants to feel entitled to having kids whether they make good parents or not. The result is we have a lot of bad parents, which is what leads to dysfunctional adults who then grow up to create a dysfunctional society. The beginning was too honest for a lot of people.

@wildmarjoramdieselpunk6396

9 ай бұрын

This is why theaters tried to ban it when it came out.

@towndarling1618

8 ай бұрын

@@AgeismGoesBothWays you do realize that saying “some people shouldn’t have kids” IS eugenics right?

@user-uo6ds4ty7i

5 ай бұрын

@@towndarling1618 that's right. why eugenics is bad?

@kernelpickle

5 ай бұрын

The beginning of the film is literally the best part, it’s the entire thesis of the film, and the rest of it is just exploring how fucked the world will be eventually. She doesn’t understand the film, and it’s painful to listen to her not get it the entire time. The dark, awful, unfixable shit that is in the film is what we’re headed for and there’s nothing we can do about it. Frankly, she’s the racist and eugenicist for imagining all of the shit the film doesn’t say or doesn’t hint at. Nothing in this film is meant to be prescriptive, it’s not a happy ending really, because it’s just terrible no matter what we do. All of the crap she brings up about IQ is her jerking off in all of our faces, because she’s being smug about having read about stuff she didn’t read. Guaranteed she hasn’t read anything by Charles Murray and probably hasn’t even gotten further than reading the Communist Manifesto-my money is wasting money on a college course that summarized it poorly, and she cranked out tangential bullshit that didn’t relate to the actual topic. Her delivery is just painful, because she is just reading and randomly modulating her voice without thinking about what she is saying. You could cut this review down to 5 minutes, and sum it up as “didn’t get it, and I think it’s bad.”

Another thing worth mentioning in regard to empathy is how there are different kinds of empathy. Idiocracy came out during a time when the narrative around autism (which was associated with being stupid) was that people with ASD lacked empathy. Studies are now showing that empathy looks and functions differently for people with autism but we aren't incapable of empathy like is often portrayed.

@partylikeits1066

2 жыл бұрын

Would you happen to know any sources where I could learn more about this? The impression I had gotten from what I've heard fairly recently is that autistic people tend to struggle with cognitive empathy (imagining someone's mental state) but have plenty of affective empathy (emotionally sympathising). Is this something along the lines of what you're talking about, or is it something else? I'm really interested in people's conceptualisations of themselves and others, and how this can vary in different people, so I'd like to learn more

@mophead_xu

2 жыл бұрын

also as someone who just ... had to consciously learn how to empathise, this ... treatment? mindset? whatever it's called, with acting like people who lack empathy are "bad" just rubs me personally the wrong way. though it is laughably ironic because that kind of thinking also tends to come from people who claim to be empathetic/trying to distance themselves from those who lack, like they're better. even though their action in this scenario wholly betrays their own claims.

@garlgarlic

2 жыл бұрын

Also: Lacking empathy isn’t bad. You can have morals and compassion even if you aren’t able to feel/understand the emotions of others.

@merrittanimation7721

2 жыл бұрын

@@garlgarlic Aren't those synonymous

@garlgarlic

2 жыл бұрын

@@merrittanimation7721 Compassion, morality, and empathy all mean different things. Compassion describes an action, like: acting compassionate, behaving compassionately. Empathy is an internal experience, specifically the internal experience of feeling or understanding the emotions of others. Morality is having a moral code, which is also active instead of just something you experience. The internal experience of feeling “good” or “empathetic” is unnecessary to engage in good actions.

I think the phrase "The system isn't broke, is wroking as intended" it's pretty crucial here

Oh, yeah, that era of liberal smugness you mention had a big impact on my little growing mind thanks to my dad. I think I'll be unearthing that high-horse crap from my personality for the rest of my life 😂😢

Is looking slightly off camera while holding a cup of tea - which magically doesn't spill while the other hand is doing it's best to make it spill - a thing now?

I've always wondered why everyone who says "stupid people should not be allowed to breed" assume they would be allowed to breed in such a world.

@DavidRamirez-se2yt

2 жыл бұрын

Eugenicists never heard of the glass houses analogy.

@UnreasonableOpinions

2 жыл бұрын

For some reason eugenicists are completely unprepared for people to respond to their advocacy for forced sterilisation with the obvious answer of 'you first'. You'd think someone convinced that reducing reproduction rates is so vital to saving humanity that mass forced surgeries are entirely justified would consider that perhaps voluntary consenting sterilisation would be the only sane choice, but apparently it's easier for them to fantasise about a world with district-sized forced sterilisation camps than one in which their genitals aren't fully armed and operational.

@synchronium24

2 жыл бұрын

@@DavidRamirez-se2yt Implying I have any desire to breed.

@thunderbird3304

2 жыл бұрын

@@synchronium24 Eugenics wouldn't just stop at forced sterilization, though. You'll probably only be able to live in certain areas of the town, which would most likely be the slums, and would only be allowed to work certain (low-level) jobs, and if the government _still_ considers you too much of a burden for the nation, they'd probably just straight up kill you. Not wanting to breed still wouldn't leave you unaffected

@toppersundquist

2 жыл бұрын

I genuinely believed this in my teens. Ahh, the heady early days of the internet... -.-

the Austrian Dairy lobby legit had a marketing campaign about how Milk is basically the same as fruits and basically any other nurtient giving thing you can think of... the same, but better. I died when I saw them

@sorryi6685

2 жыл бұрын

Nestle only advertised NIDO as alternative to Breast milk

Despite the lobbying I still think milk is healthy, as long as the ungulate it came from is also healthy. Healthy cow is healthy milk. Healthy cow is healthy tripe. Healthy cow is healthy steak. Healthy cow is healthy liver.

This video made me consider things that hadn't occurred to me before I saw it. That is the highest complement that I could ever give to a video like this. Outstanding.

All of the forced sterilisation examples you mentioned seem quite distant in time, but I just wanna point out that Finland only allows people to transition if they get sterilised. Meaning you can't get new documents or hormone therapy or any sort of trans healthcare unless you agree to never have kids and undergo a medical procedure you probably don't want. And this is happening in a "progressive" country with Pride parades and official marriage equality since 2017!

@brook_angel

2 жыл бұрын

That's fucking sad

@Callimo

2 жыл бұрын

What in the fuck? How tf do Finland politicians actually rationalize this?

@HarryStikers

2 жыл бұрын

I mean... As a trans man I WANT my "oven" removed. My trans girlfriend definitely doesn't want the annoying sensitive orbs anymore either. I don't see the problem?

@heatherlee2967

2 жыл бұрын

Yikes, that feels really weird. Why would they require sterilization in order for people to undergo a legal gender change?

@mechanomics2649

2 жыл бұрын

@@heatherlee2967 It has "I'm not a bigot, but...." energy.

I can't remember who pointed it out to me but Wall-E is a far better version of Idiocracy that manages to be more funny and critical of the systems behind the problems.

@malaksafa4074

2 жыл бұрын

Pop culture detective?

@scumbagslacker

2 жыл бұрын

@@malaksafa4074 I think you're right! 😊

@malaksafa4074

2 жыл бұрын

@@scumbagslacker your welcome 🤗.

@malaksafa4074

2 жыл бұрын

It's his video on sociological storytelling.

@malaksafa4074

2 жыл бұрын

It's his video on sociological storytelling.

Mike Judd serves as a compelling illustration of why studying and comprehending history is crucial. Despite originating from good intentions, one can unwittingly propagate ideas that are not only incorrect but also harmful. Initially, eugenics may appear rational - the notion that "stupid" individuals producing offspring with each other results in "stupid" children. However, with proper education on the subject, one quickly realizes the fallacy and falsehood of such beliefs. Moreover, eugenics was employed as a tool to rationalize racism and deprive individuals of their fundamental human rights.

I feel the Starship Troopers movie (not the book, that was garbage) was more prophetic than Idiocracy. ST explored how fascism can infect a society while Idiocracy has a nebulous idea of stupidity.

This was my mom’s ex boyfriend’s favorite movie when I was in high school and he would make us watch it every single time it came on Comedy Central, which was at least once a week. Glad to know this movie actually really does just suck and not that I’m incredibly biased with my hatred for it

@marieangie5663

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your sacrifice, may you never again have to lay eyes upon this film😂

@SoulDevoured

2 жыл бұрын

It has memeable moments and that's about it.

@Sephirajo

2 жыл бұрын

My ex loving it was a red flag in retrospect so with ya there. I remember watching this movie for the first time with rising horror. Its even funner when you're on the spectrum and you've had the r and f slurs yelled at you during violence.

@Crocsvevo

2 жыл бұрын

@@Sephirajo no but really it is so difficult to watch movies from this era or earlier without viewing them through a modern critical lens. Even before I realized I could be on the spectrum I never wanted to watch film and television with the “r” slur and it’s actually crazy how often it’s just casually said. Like obviously I know that a movie from 2006 is likely to have at least some kind of joke or comment that I will probably grimace at in distaste, but I have a strict “one line” policy. Like If I hear more than one “r” slur I will immediately turn the movie off and never watch it again.

@MrNateM

2 жыл бұрын

I think this movie is like Fight Club. It's an ok movie, with an anti-capitalist point, that everyone (including Sarah Z) takes the wrong message from. The genetics thing is not the point of the movie at all - and it occupies the screen for - what- 90 seconds, never to be brought up again. It's used to create a "fictional" society that can be used to more savagely critique our own. The message of the film is that amoral corporations want you to be uncritical, uninformed and complacent, and that the mindless consumer paradise they sell is the means for accomplishing that. I'm really disappointed in Sarah's take.

I was discussing this video with a friend of mine, and it made me realize: despite Carl's Jr and other fast food chains being so prolific in Idiocracy's future, there are very few obese people. Like, there are plenty of folks in great shape, most especially President Kamacho, as portrayed by a body builder. So the film presents a narrative of being against fast food, but strictly because it's what the working poor rely on, not because of the usual worries of fast food being overall bad for your health (when consumed in unmoderated amounts (and not paired with working class exercise))

@akorn9943

2 жыл бұрын

I always saw it a little more charitably, and that they were purely attacking fast food brands like Carl’s for being some of the most egregious examples of soulless corporations pushing the endless commercialism of society, and just didn’t put enough thoughts into the health costs. But I guess that might be coming from my assumption that the grossest eugenics stuff was slapped on by the studio after they got too worried over what the movie would be saying otherwise, as opposed to what Mike Judge originally intended, when I could be giving him way too much credit

@BlitzkriegOmega

2 жыл бұрын

The issue of the Fast Food thing is the joke is supposed to be "There's no food left, but Corporations still charge money for the idea of a meal", but it's muddied to high hell by bad writing.

@zephyr8072

2 жыл бұрын

There’s a famine going on in the setting. That’s why the vending machine gives that woman nothing, not because it’s broken but because food is running out.

@j.2512

2 жыл бұрын

umm sweaty dontcha know being morbidly obese is good and healthy and beautiful??? your comment is so fatphobic

@Virjunior01

2 жыл бұрын

There are plenty of overweight people. They are just not main characters. Settle down, Beavis.

7:57 your audio doesn’t work well. What is the regular rumble in the background? Did someone not shut their phone off?

At the era of ghost kitchens running virtual restaurant selling unregulated foods under MrBeast brand and e-girls doing 6 figures a year in their early 20s for farting in jars, I can confirm this movie is still up to date, if even not as bad as I think we're really going. I can't believe that in not even 20 years after its exit, you confirmed the prophecy, and you don't get the irony of the point that movie made by having to explain this is not a documentary while everyone knew it was FICTION when it came out. I don't have enough hand to facepalm myself right now.

@angelikaskoroszyn8495

3 ай бұрын

In Idiocracy shit went down because dumb people outbred intelligent people. Meanwhile in our reality selling bath water is simply more profitable. I would argue that choosing this profession is an intelligent choice

@cannedsandwich8156

3 ай бұрын

​@@angelikaskoroszyn8495 So we got miss Sarah here explaining how its important to take in account here economical aspects, but you're for having a market upon something which as no intrinsinc value such as bath water? Because "its more lucrative", so its more "intelligent"? Shit went down not only because of population growth, but also because of low morals, like greed, right in the intro of the movie, just like you brought up. No wonder people in the movie can't fix the Big Ben with your mentality explicitly stating why, because its more lucrative to walk with sponsored suits, stating Carl's Junior every 4 words and making handjobs at Starbucks. Good job highlighting the irony of the film.

This is such a good teardown of the uncomfortable elitism of this film. Everyone wants to imagine they are the only smart person in a sea of idiots, but the truth is that general intelligence is not a thing (everyone has a unique set of skills and knowledge), and everyone is capable of being a better person, but we're operating in a system that is manipulating and hurting everyone. Even the actual elites driving the system, while certainly sinister, are themselves slaves to the perverse incentive structure of the system. Good satire calls for meaningful positive structural change, not merely reinforcing classism.

@karak962

2 жыл бұрын

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@ryuukeisscifiproductions1818

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah i think Social media over the past ten years has pretty unequivocally proven that most of the "elites", are just as stupid and insane as the rest of us. The Vast majority of the wealthy elites are that way due to inheritance, and the self made wealthy got there mostly by being spectacularly lucky. And to be honest i think most genuinely smart people tend to stay away from major positions of power, especially public positions of power because they are aware of the insanity you have to put up with to get there and keep it. Like i genuinely think that anyone whom wants to be president of the united states is at lest to some degree deranged, stupid, or blinded by ego.

@allenthomas9912

2 жыл бұрын

Elitism of Idiocracy? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Regarding IQ tests, as a kid I was tested twice, and the second time I scored high enough to stop having to take the test again. But the curious reason was why... apparently part of the test involved reading analog clicks, and the first time I took the test, I had not used analog clocks before, so the point of reference was lost on me. By the second time I had taken the test, I was aware of and had used analog clocks to understand the time.

@wordart_guian

2 жыл бұрын

"stop having to take the test again" how is that a thing? When was that ever a thing?

@noralewis5390

2 жыл бұрын

@@wordart_guian I don't think I even questioned saying no. I was pretty young at the time (under 8).

@genera1013

2 жыл бұрын

I had a friend in highschool who never been taught to read an analog clock. She wasn't less intelligent for it, but simply hadn't been taught it. It just shows how biased IQ tests really are.

@wordart_guian

2 жыл бұрын

@@genera1013 people have this really annoying idea that iq tests attempt to measure all of intelligence in one number based on all of those questions. It doesn't ; it measures 5 to 8 competences separately, and grades them all separately, and you normally receive all the numbers. People focus a lot on the average, but the actual indices are just as important (for example, if some indices are really high, and others are much below that, you might both be gifted and have one or more learning disabilities)

@Impostor75

2 жыл бұрын

@@wordart_guian The only thing an IQ test truly measures is how good you are at IQ tests, and how many you've taken before

I have seen many children that were very gifted come from parents that were of less than average Intelligence !

18:50 Okay. No. The film does not claim that stupid people are stupid because of their genes. The movie is claiming that stupid people have more risky sex and unintended pregnancies (which you would have to be insane to disagree with) and that smart people are more likely to have smaller families (which is not only true but verifiably true with tons and tons and tons of studies on this).

@OptimalOwl

Ай бұрын

> The film does not claim that stupid people are stupid because of their genes. Did you miss the opening sequence? The bit with the remedial crash course on evolution and selective pressures, and the illustrative examples of an intelligent "family" tree and a not-so-intelligent family tree? The film gets a lot of the details about dysgenic fertility wrong, but not so much so that you can't clearly tell that that's what the film is talking about. > and that smart people are more likely to have smaller families But don't you see how this contradicts the point above? If intelligent people have relatively smaller families, then how could that not affect our genetic potential for intelligence?

The thing that struck me when i first watched the movie was that the implication of "stupid people had too many kids" thing came off as incredibly racist due to the fact that so many of the surnames, and actors are latino in origin. " President Camacho", "Frito Pendejo", the secretary of defense has a thick Spanish accent etc.

@gratuitouslurking8610

2 жыл бұрын

It's also kinda grim if you also consider higher birth rates tend to be linked with subpar medical care, ala 'have more kids and hope some of them survive.' So, yeah, maybe a bit of an oopsie to link racially charged demographics like that as well when the argument is 'stupid people survive longer because modern medicine fixes your fuckups.'

@seamoose9039

2 жыл бұрын

How tf did I not realise

@michaelbarbarich3965

2 жыл бұрын

Do you actually believe "Frito" is a "latino" name? Holy shit.

@randommodnar7141

2 жыл бұрын

@@michaelbarbarich3965 No frito is obviously not a spanish name. The fact that the world full of idiots is insinuated to be heavily latino is something worth dissecting though, which wasn't commented on. Its a choice to name the idiot president "Camacho " rather than just Smith. Its a choice to name the dullard friend "frito pendejo" rather than "hamburger numbnuts".

@gonks7071

2 жыл бұрын

Ok, but compare the amount of Spanish culture in the forefront of American culture even from even then to now. Cant go anywhere even on the east coast without seeing spanish right next to english. Im bilingual i dont care, i enjoy it, but u cant say they were wrong. Plus poor people do make more kids, who go on to make more poor kids for the most part. k selection vs r selection lmfaooo

Oh wow. My aunt actually had both children (one of them autistic) seized from her custody a decade or so ago, and the main argument against her was that her developmental learning disability made her an unfit mother. I honestly thought she was a pretty great mom who always did the very best with what she could, and worked harder than most to compensate where she struggled. Her son ended up in foster care, and came out much worse off developmentally than he would've otherwise. :\

@jfs983

Жыл бұрын

Also, thank you for mentioning the forced sterilization of Indigenous women in Canada.

@kaptainkrunch4106

Жыл бұрын

That's terrible, all the way around.

@dolphone6748

Жыл бұрын

Damn... Fuck that

@haleklind

Жыл бұрын

I was denied my own autism diagnosis because the psych who did my assessment said he had concerns that a diagnosis could cause custody problems with my daughter. I have other disabilities and have been seeking SSDI, and custody is something I've been concerned about during that process. I'm so sorry for your aunt and her children, that is so awful. Literally my biggest fear with an autistic child of my own.

@AnimatedStoriesWorldwide

10 ай бұрын

"MY OPINION MATTERS AND MY AUNT IS HIGHLY REGARDED": the post.... meanwhile 50% of her kids are autistic....

The movie Idiocracy is in fact a Geniocracy since the most intelligent get into power.