COROS is casually dropping more updates in 4 months than POLAR in 1 year 0_o

@Lasombra08

3 ай бұрын

Copy pasting Garmin features, you mean. 😆

@mr.onbekend7959

3 ай бұрын

Its better working then garmin so a nice job done

@Lasombra08

3 ай бұрын

​@@mr.onbekend7959 Of course it is.

@shinyfpv3656

3 ай бұрын

@@Lasombra08coz of garmin put the feature first, so coros copy and paste the garmin? Better you mention all brand bro. Hahahaha

@OneTouch1980

2 ай бұрын

Or ever. I don't remember the last update for my polar vantage m1. But the main takeaway is all the other companies just bombard you with "data" that many don''t know what to do with. And for the most part we know how we feel and should us that to make our decisions and not rely on a watch telling us.

If I were to choose a non-Garmin watch I think I would very likely be looking for a Coros watch. That said having used the Garmin platform for so many years now one does end up getting so familiar with how it works that changing over to a different platform really needs to be for a very good reason.

Thank you very much for this overview of the upcoming updates! I'm excited to try these out for myself in February using my 1 1/2 year old Coros Pace 2. I originally bought the watch for its battery life and affordability but I'm constantly impressed with how generous they are in adding more features even to their older watches.

Another thorough video Dave. I have the Vertix 2. Appreciate the regular updates Coros provide.👏

Another great video Dave. As a Coros Apex 2 Pro user I found this very useful and am looking forward to the update 😊

I have been in the beta for a week or so. I do find the stress metric pretty useful. Nice that the combine HRV and HR plus whatever else to produce a useful #. Thanks coros.

Kudos to Coros for continuously innovating and improving, and supporting older models with new features as long as possible - I believe no one else does this. Looks like I need to take out from storage and wear my Vertix Mojito SN 101/200 again 😂

As a fellow 4-kidder and 140 mile round trip commute to NYC, I can't wait for the stress measurement. I may tip the scales!

Love the coros updates coming

Glad they finally added the weather forecast widget, was something I really missed when I switched over from Garmin. It's nice that they're adding general wellness stuff like stress tracking but man that battery hit is just too much so I'll be keeping that off. Running form test seems pretty pointless for most people unless you're a data nerd.

I cant decide which watch to buy as my first watch to track running (casual runner), Coros pace 3, or Garmin Forerunner 165 (non music) since they are almost exact same price. Amoled is not a big feature for me, I just need a good watch to track my workouts, display basic info etc. OS/enviroment would to be big deciding factor here and Coros seems to be working hard on updating theirs, when Garmin from what I here, likes to gatekeep some features in more expensive models. Any thoughts? Comparison video between those models, or/and systems would be nice :)

@hobble_dehoy

2 ай бұрын

Same here, I’ve had both in my cart and backed out. I think I might just get the pace 3 and see what future updates they roll out. I’m just a casual so I don’t need every bell and whistle anyway

Nice summary of the new coros features. I'm also testing it on the beta and loving the new features. Maybe time to get a Pod too

Thanks a lot) 💪

I was already thinking of getting a pod for running on the treadmill but now I want one even more so I can do the form test

I've been watching your videos for a long time now and I've really learned a lot of things that I didn't know or didn't pay so much attention to, thank you so much for that. Now, after your latest videos for coros pace 3, I see me soon owning it. One last thing, if you will allow it, do you have anything to do with Greece in general? Many thanks💪✅👍😁

Great that they provide such updates! Much better than Garmin in that respect!

@ChaseTheSummit

3 ай бұрын

Absolutely. I also think they've pushed other companies to follow in a similar way. Garmin has gotten a lot better about firmware updates in recent years and I think that's thanks to COROS.

It appears that Garmin, includes activity induced stress in the Body Battery measurement, but doesn't include it in the 'not active' daily stress measurement. I don't have a Coros but I assume they don't store activity induced stress as a separate metric or use some method to avoid double counting activity stress in the daily totals.

COROS and garmin user here 👏

Coros…coming for garmins lunch.., right there along with Apple (once they get the battery life sorted)

Promised to report back after a few days. Beta is solid, no issues for me. I do feel like battery life has taken a pretty significant hit but don’t have any actual metrics to share, just a rough feeling that I’m seeing more drain. Stress feature is solid and seems to work pretty well (definitely showed increase levels of stress over the weekend when I was attending my daughters bball tournament 😂) Will continue to monitor the battery usage but I’m definitely not in the battery anxiety range that I had when using my Apple Watch.

In my opinion, Garmin (Firstbeat) skip the measurement during training and during movement because it can affect the quality of the measurement as well as from the obvious matter we know that during movement or sports the stress will be significantly increased. In addition, so that it is known what body/psychic stress is actual it is worthwhile to let go of such a measurement in motion or during sports. Coros quite similarly models itself on Garmin, so I wonder if the quality may have "borrowed" their algorithms or developed them through reverse engineering. Thanks for the review!

Really enjoy your videos. Don’t have a coros, I have a garmin. Have never really used the stress. It’s there, but not hugely actionable from my perspective. I’ve always assumed it blanks out working out because that’s always good for my stress level. Nice one Dave.

@ChaseTheSummit

3 ай бұрын

Thanks!

Does coros pace 3 can be a music control player control to connect to smartphone ?

Nice to see Coros adding features, even though I sold my Pace 2 to go back to Garmin with the Venu 2 (I have the Edge 530 too). I don't see a "Body Battery" equivalent though, arguably the "best" (as in useful/actionnable) metric available on a sports watch ?

Yes, I have a Pace1 and I hope these will help.

@ChaseTheSummit

3 ай бұрын

Unfortunately Pace 1 won't be getting this update.

@ardlishahlinaardli9031

3 ай бұрын

Hi sir, if just for running which is better coros pace 3 or garmin fr 265? Still thinking which one to buy. ​@@ChaseTheSummit

Thanks for alerting me to the fact that my beta had expired and had to get loaded again. 😂 Testing the beta and will report back in a few days. Really do love my Coros

Hmm vertix3 will be on my radar next year

Sir will all features of this watch work in India also??

I liked the beta

For me, as for runner, which using coros 4 years, this feature is senseless, just draining battery. What I've noticed with this update - better showing of current & future lap goals in planned workout. Going to search now how to disable this stress measure feature... But what I can understand - coros trying to get also satisfied users, who actually aren't athletes, and has just normal healthy life, that's I think good direction. Also big positive I see with coros - I'm owning watches since 2020 and I'm still getting updates. That's awesome.

@ChaseTheSummit

3 ай бұрын

COROS needs these features to stay competitive with a growing market. Just because you don't value them doesn't mean others don't. The good news is that it's FREE and you can disable it if you don't want to use it. Settings > Stress Tracking > Off... Done.

great update. I hope they develop amoled watch for this year. MIP with 64color too dull for 2024.

@ChaseTheSummit

3 ай бұрын

I think that's inevitable but I also think some COROS users may not be happy with that!

Did they update the pace lag? or do i still need to buy the pod?

I have an Apple Watch 7 that's being warranty replaced without the oxygen sensor (🤬). and am considering the Coros Pace 3 as a possible replacement as an everyday watch. I don’t need most of the Apple smart features and aside from being a daily time piece/general fitness tracker, would use the Coros for cycling and hiking. Your thoughts on this? Thanks and really like your channel!

@ChaseTheSummit

3 ай бұрын

The Pace 3 is great! But coming from an Apple Watch it will probably take some time to get used to it. The display is much duller and boring to look at, the interface isn't as snappy, and you can't do any of the obvious smartwatch things with it like play music, take phone calls, download apps, etc... The Pace 3 is a rock solid fitness and activity tracker though and has useful training, navigation, and wellness tools out of the box along with WAY better battery life.

@stepheno3422

3 ай бұрын

I've never used many of my Apple Watch's smart features, so I don’t think that’ll be a problem. I’m interested in it primarily as a time piece, for cycling, and as a general fitness tracker. Not needed to charge it everyday is a significant plus, too. Thanks a lot for the reply. @@ChaseTheSummit

A little off topic but brand new to corps pace 3; does the pace 3 support audio cues during a run if you have headphones paired. Will take it for first run later today. Thanks.

@ChaseTheSummit

3 ай бұрын

Nope, still waiting for this to be added!

With a Pace 3 going from 24 to 17 days after turning this on will still be just fine with me (speaking as an Apple Watch Series 5 user) 😂

@ChaseTheSummit

3 ай бұрын

Yup, not a huge hit. Oddly the bigger hits come to the Vertix line with the Vertix 1's battery life nearly being cut in half!

How to update my pace 3?

Hola, a día de hoy, que dispositivo elegiría? Coros pace 3 o Garmin 955?

@ChaseTheSummit

3 ай бұрын

Probably the 955 simply because it has way more advanced mapping/navigation along with internal storage for music and a few more wellness tools.

Is this watch a good one for triathlon?

@ChaseTheSummit

3 ай бұрын

Yup!

I would love to buy a Coros but I need it to be able to control my smartphone music!!!

@ChaseTheSummit

3 ай бұрын

So weird that they still haven't figured that out! Every other smartwatch has that feature. Seems like it would be an easy fix!

@sd30001

3 ай бұрын

Strange given they have the feature to control a Insta360 and GoPro camera via Bluetooth on the watches

Maybe cause exercise is what we do to deal w stress

@ChaseTheSummit

3 ай бұрын

But it also causes stress!

app only for phones? not on pc like garmin connect?

@ChaseTheSummit

3 ай бұрын

There's a desktop version called COROS Traning Hub you can find at training.coros.com that shows most of the metrics.

Where would you find this update? My Coros app says everything is up to date and the last update was in December.

@isaacconstas6749

3 ай бұрын

Mine as aswell

@ChaseTheSummit

3 ай бұрын

It started rolling out on February 1st. Give it a few days and you should see the update!

@snowwalker9999

3 ай бұрын

@@ChaseTheSummit thanks it was finally here yesterday afternoon

Too much for me Dave! Besides I've got an Apex 42mm so the upgrade won't be it. Any way. This features doesn't make me prone to buy a new Coros (I've tested the Coros Pod 2 though, but I rather use Stryd). The only thing that seduce me is battery life, because the Apex has proven to be not so good in the area. May be the Pace 3 would be an option. As an amateur marathoner, there's no need for such features. And optic sensors have never worked for my wrist, that's why I use the Polar Veristy Sense. So, what's the point of these new features since you never get good data from your wrist... I'll pass. Thank you for your great review, I've enjoyed.

I go back and forth with how valuable all this extra data is. On my Garmin, it’s nice to validate how I’m feeling when I didn’t get enough sleep, worked out too hard, etc. But at the same time it can be demoralizing when I’m constantly at a training readiness of “1” and the watch is suggesting I “Rest” for 3 days in a row. We have an 18 month old so we don’t get much sleep. Stuff like that draws me back to my Apple Watch which doesn’t seem to judge me nearly as much 🙄

@ChaseTheSummit

3 ай бұрын

Haha, that is the struggle. I know the feeling (4 kids here) my body battery rarely gets above 50 even after a good nights sleep. I try not to focus on it too much and really only use it for validation when I *FEEL* run down. Basically, I avoid looking at the metrics unless I feel off... then I look to see what's going on. Ultimately these features are supposed to make us healthier and happier not the other way around.

@JasonRaneses

3 ай бұрын

Agree with this. I personally went deep in exploring analytics across Apple, Garmin, and Whoop - you eventually land on listening to your body on most days, as it gets exhausting deferring to a particular platform. The features are no doubt nice to have, but now I optimize for the best activity tracker over everything else. Garmin is my current winner in that regard.

I'm 70 so it's going to tell my form sucks. My ground contact time is high, my turnover is slow.

I just wish the Pace 3 didn't suffer from pace lag. If Coros fix that then it would be the perfect watch.

@ChaseTheSummit

3 ай бұрын

Unfortunately most watches do which is why training by Running Power can be a lot easier than pace.

@-R_H

3 ай бұрын

Oh yeah the pace lag is baddd

@darianallberry

3 ай бұрын

We have made changes in our recent firmware (November 2023) that improved pace sensitivity. It’s not perfect but it has improved and we are continuing to work on making this data even more responsive! - Darian (COROS)

@TranceMusic20

3 ай бұрын

My Polar Pacer Pro doesn't lag at all and none of the watches should lag at all. It's so simple job for the processor and we are in 21st century. Come on guys.

@icejam-xq5hj

3 ай бұрын

@@darianallberryWill there be a firmware update regarding this issue in the not too distant future?

Why my coros pace 3 still didn't have that update?

@ChaseTheSummit

3 ай бұрын

It’s not available until Feb 1st

@mrfuzz177

3 ай бұрын

Ohh thanks 😅

I really like Coors UI and App but sadly I am not a fan of the flat tyre shape design. Such a shame. I would buy one if it wasn't for the design

@ChaseTheSummit

3 ай бұрын

Not sure what you mean by flat tire shape? To me they look pretty similar to other fitness watches.

@Ajajambo

3 ай бұрын

​@@ChaseTheSummit The bezel shape and how the lugs drop off. Example Garmin has a nice lug design and some nice curverture in the bezel. I am not saying it's awful but I wished they were more inventive with the design.

I don't want to give up battery life for features I don't want/ need. I bought the watch for ultra running because it's good on GPS has maps and a ton of battery life If I would want less battery life and more marketing things almost nobody really actively uses I would buy an overpriced Garmin.

@ChaseTheSummit

3 ай бұрын

Good news is this feature is free so you're not paying for it. And you can also turn it off if you want more battery life. So there's no downside.

👍💯💯💯

I just wish they had airplane mode on it. That’s what’s keeping me from getting it. I had it but returned it. I keep my Garmin on airplane mode all day and sync it at the end of the day.

@LewisWu_

3 ай бұрын

Just curious why you use the airplane mode? Is it to reduce distraction?

@chriscarpunky

3 ай бұрын

EMF

I'm excited but I still own the Apex which is really annoying. I want this thing to die!!!!! so I can upgrade

Coros user here. Really like my watch, but all these metrics are so unreliable they are just laughable!

@ChaseTheSummit

3 ай бұрын

Which metrics do you have trouble with?

@JasonRaneses

3 ай бұрын

The point on Coros’ lagging heart rate tracking that then throws off real time analytics built on top is a good example. Working outward, if the core hardware isn’t reliable other features suffer as a result.

@pablo_elizalde

3 ай бұрын

@@ChaseTheSummit Sleep and heart rate, although I think sleep is bad in most wearables.

@leighsymons5619

2 ай бұрын

Yeah I agree, most of this "data" from all watch brands is somewhat unreliable at best. You know when you've slept well, or if you're fit, or stressed and don't get me started on the v02 scores.