Idk what others think but the design team at Suzuki are doing a damn good job!! These bikes look absolutely gorgeous, edgy and boxy, a bit retro, a bit futuristic!! Certainly different than anything out there.

@scottsledgister1877

Жыл бұрын

Still not a V-Strom if it doesn't have a v-twin.

It's hard to find folks who make a walkaround so complete and thorough. Kudos mate!

@juanamaya6278

Жыл бұрын

I agree, plus delivering it in such a professional and compact package

This looks so much better than the old model. Honestly, of the tenere, the new transalp, and this one, I think this one takes the cake in terms of the looks department.

@Hemlck

Жыл бұрын

I agree…I really like the looks…and the features are good👍

@midhungopan9270

Жыл бұрын

@No_Name V Strom DE are meant to be off-road specific just like V strom 1050DE,but there is an option as V strom 1050 with 19 inch alloy wheel version , hope they come up with a on road version of this 800cc version too

@alastairtheduke

Жыл бұрын

@No_Name Yeah, but if you're into offroad riding, then they made it look brute. The last version looked goofy, like a surprised bird. This looks more like some futuristic grunty maurauder.

@urbanadventurer5

Жыл бұрын

I agree. That grey and yellow option is on point.

@davidnobular9220

Жыл бұрын

@No_Name In Australia, most roads ARE off road because the quality is generally pretty ordinary. After all the recent rain in the East, potholes are opening up everywhere, and coming back days after they are fixed. Some are 20cm+ deep and 50cm+ in diameter.....I swear I saw a Smartcar get swallowed up by a larger one recently..... Point being, road bikes that can do 350km/h are all good, but they are designed for optimal conditions. Personally, I prefer to have something that can hit a pothole and have a better chance of keeping the rider and bike in one piece.

Hi! Thanks a lot for this interesting video! As V Strom 1050 owner I'm sorry about the fact they had to give up on the V twin engine. But I'd pick a new V Strom for sure even with a parallel twin engine. At least the oil filter's gonna have a better protection! Suzuki are great motorcycles for those who don't give a damn on fancy things!

@10vingers

Жыл бұрын

I agree, but I was in the market for a new 650. This new platform will certainly have some minor flaws so maybe I'll need to go for the old 650 or another brand.

@mihaimihai9254

Жыл бұрын

@@10vingers Hi! Thanks for ansewering! An old 650 V-V Strom would be a great option as well. I guess you still can find a brand new one at dealers. If so you will never regret the decision of buying it. I wish you good luck and a lot of nice and safe trips no matter what you're gonna decide!

@martyn_g

Жыл бұрын

I don’t think any manufacturer can keep everyone happy.

@PisgahGravelProject

7 ай бұрын

And the airfilter is under the seat, huge selling point for me. I'm not interested in taking the tank off once a month.

Thank you so much for all the awesome EICMA coverage. 👌

Feel like this should be called the P strom, if it’s a parallel twin and no longer a v twim

@martyn_g

Жыл бұрын

Or just “Strom”

@MusicalMemeology

Жыл бұрын

@@martyn_gI always feel like they misspelt storm.

@martyn_g

Жыл бұрын

@@MusicalMemeology ha. Apparently Strom is German for storm;)

Bigger tank than on the Transalp. That is more important than the cruise control. I like it. Thank you!

bummer, tubed tires? Last thing I want to do on an adventure is carry tubes and tire irons and pull wheels off, leave the tubes for dedicated dirt bikes. Cruise control?

I like it but am a bit disappointed about the rise in seat height. The V-Strom was my all-time favorite because it had an accessible seat height, You won't get extreme enduro anyway with it, a good baseplate its all it needs, and off you go having fun on the trails.

@robertherrick6703

Жыл бұрын

In the comment section of another one of these videos, someone said there would be a lower seat option at 32.8" which is a little shorter than the stock 650 seat.

@vebez5993

Жыл бұрын

I think the vstroms ground clearance was a little low for my off-road riding and I don’t mind one foot on the ground at all

@martyn_g

Жыл бұрын

If they kept it the same seat height, other people would moan that there wasn’t enough ground clearance 😂

Suzuki have knocked styling out of the park with this one, as well as the GSX-8S

Love love love that blue and yellow

Well done! Strong work!

Good look at the bike. Thanks.

Quite a huge fan of Suzuki's design language these days, including this new Strom. Looks good, but the competition is insane these. Glad I'm not currently in the ADV purchasing market! As always, great vid!

Funny that the wet weight for the standard at 500+ is ok on this vs when people talk about the V85TT.

always loved the v strom!! like the Ultra too 😉 got one!!

Nice review! Thank you MOTOBOB!

@motobob

Жыл бұрын

My pleasure SP!

I prefer this over the transalp👍

@JDeezle21

Жыл бұрын

Agreed

@petersajo7195

Жыл бұрын

me too :-)

@dubravkojanusic6996

Жыл бұрын

Heavver, less power ..... and so on. V strom was never a better bike then transallp.

@jaspersilus

Жыл бұрын

Love it, I'm a Honda fan boy, but the new Transalp is so fucking dull to look at!

@ilmatanela1816

Жыл бұрын

Me too, seems to have better suspensions. And it will cost a bit less. Suzuki = value for money and reliability

Suzuki makes an excellent motorcycle. I wouldn't hesitate to buy another

Interesting! Thank you mr Bob!

Love this bike! Good power/torque. It's going to come down to price.

Very well addressed video thank you for all the information

My freewind xf feels proud))

Looks great in grey

Grey does look good

This new V strom 800 DE from Suzuki is a very intresting bike. It looks good, has good performance also packed with decent features. Its a better upgrade from the V Strom 650. The colours are Aslo pretty nice, especially that yellow.

Suzuki makes really nice machines, but for a ground up revamp - seems some missed opportunity. Might be middle power but it is a heavy weight at over 500lbs. Tubed tires? 2021?

amazing coverage of EICMA. can't wait to for the translap!!!!!

@motobob

Жыл бұрын

Yes mate! Thanks for your continued support - I really appreciate your comments

@AzTurboMini

Жыл бұрын

@@motobob It either has cruise or it will be offered as an accessory. On Suzuki's website and under specifications... Go down to this below... Controller Area Network (CAN bus) Key to the operation of the S.I.R.S., the V-STROM 800DE uses an interconnected information network instead of a conventional wiring harness. Because it requires fewer wires, this CAN bus wiring lets the vehicle be lighter and simpler and provides a way for the advanced components - such as the cruise control - to have faster data transmission with the ECM.

Looks good, the way forward for Suzuki.

I love the color combination. Only trick will I ever see one at a dealer.

Cool bikes!

I like the looks. I have had both a the 650 and 1000 v-strom . For my on/off road riding at nearly 70 yrs old I may go with the v-strom 650 and and a dr 650. I ride slow off road. Get rid of my v-strom 1000. I can pick up those two bikes used with good aftermarket gear for about 8000 canadian. Weight and cost are a big deal for me. I also need something I can lift as I ride alone. Great overview , thanks.

Man! I'd say this may be the bike to beat in the mid weights!

Holy crap, you flew to Milan. Now that's dedication.

@levigato125

Жыл бұрын

That’s like flying from Los Angles to Las Vegas for CES or Sema. No big deal.

Looks like a great bike, I like the TFT display but honestly? I'm sticking with my 650 Vee. I'm a happy camper. 😎

Looks tasty. I liked the VSTROM 650, but it was a little small for traveling with the wife. The 800 looks a little bigger and more powerful. It would have to be the black and blue one. Not a yellow kind of guy.😎👍

Suzuki 800 is HEAVY!! 504lbs!! The 901/890 are 453 lbs, the T7 is 450-ish too. A 1250 GS isn't much heavier and comes with short rider options as well as better features and off road capability. If this Suzuki comes in @ $8000 USD, then we can have another conversation....

@downhillupside

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, they better be careful about pricing. They're putting a lot of effort into these great redesigns, and it could really go up in smoke if they aren't aggressive.

@miloskuzmanovic

Жыл бұрын

I think price for this model will be 12-15k. No way they will mange with all this features to hit 10k. Older 650 was 10k....

@exothermal.sprocket

Жыл бұрын

31 pounds of that is fuel. Basically a 470 pound bike when the tank is empty.

@BigEightiesNewWave

Жыл бұрын

YEAH GIVE ME AN 890 :0

Suzuki fan, here, sporting a new V-Strom 1050XT Adv. If this was available earlier, it may have been in the garage.

I love suzuki design

Average speed cameras on motorway especially when it's 50mph Cruise control is essential. It means you can keep your eyes on the road and not on your speedometer.

@2lbsTrigrPull

Жыл бұрын

For you. Not for me.

@armadilllo

Жыл бұрын

Cruise has saved me many tickets and cramps in my hand.

@urbanadventurer5

Жыл бұрын

I get that it’s a nice feature, but people were riding bikes all over the world for years and enjoying it before we added cruise control to bikes. Lots of them did just fine at avoiding tickets and crashes too.

@armadilllo

Жыл бұрын

@@urbanadventurer5 yeah a lot avoided polio without a vaccination too.

Love one. I had the 650 for 2 years hard find a bike for older riders. Don't like sports or Cruiser style

Too Heavy...my 1st gen Wee is almost 32 lb lighter not counting the 3lbs for the extra fuel which actually makes it around 35lbs lighter with equal amount of fuel.. and it's still too tall for me to flat foot... and no CC.... also the price is going to make a difference... I think I will hang on to my '05 Wee for a while!

The lack of cruise control really surprised me. Tiger 900, Aprilia Tuareg, almost all KTMs & many of the smaller BMWs have it.. At 230Kg the Suzuki is pushing the upper limit of what I'd consider a proper weight for this category.. I'm sure it's a good bike, but I was hoping for something that can seriously compete with the current models by other manufacturers.

@urbanadventurer5

Жыл бұрын

I hear that, but the best selling and arguably most popular bike in this category, the Tenere 700 doesn’t have any of that. People still love it. So, I am sure that the new Honda Transalp and Suzuki will be competitive if they are fun to ride too.

@ZoltanGiber

Жыл бұрын

@@urbanadventurer5 True. The Tenere is much liked as a dual sport without all the frills.. It’s significantly lighter though. Looking at the Suzuki I got the idea of long adventure tours (heavier bike, padded wide seats, big screen, smooth engine) it could be nice to relax the wrist every now and then.

@urbanadventurer5

Жыл бұрын

@@ZoltanGiber fair enough. The weight on the Suzuki could be a problem. We’ll see how it carries it.

@AzTurboMini

Жыл бұрын

It either has it or it will be offered as an accessory. On Suzuki's website and under specifications... Go down to this below... Controller Area Network (CAN bus) Key to the operation of the S.I.R.S., the V-STROM 800DE uses an interconnected information network instead of a conventional wiring harness. Because it requires fewer wires, this CAN bus wiring lets the vehicle be lighter and simpler and provides a way for the advanced components - such as the cruise control - to have faster data transmission with the ECM.

@urbanadventurer5

Жыл бұрын

@@AzTurboMini interesting, it’s unfortunate that Suzuki and Honda haven’t made it clear to media outlets that this is an option on their new bikes because multiple articles have now claimed it’s not a feature that’s available on either bike. I hope you are right.

You forgot to mention the quick shifter up and down. Nice review though, thanks.

Nice V STROM 800 DE. OKAY Kaayo I Like it

Good video sir.

@motobob

Жыл бұрын

🙏

About that missing cruise control, I'm expecting to see it tbh. It would be a real shame if they do not add it. I get it, it looks a little strange that it is not on the show models but I cannot imagine they won't add that feature.

Thanks for covering this. The lack of cruise control is a total buzz kill though. If they ever include it, they will get my business.

@AzTurboMini

Жыл бұрын

It either has it or it will be offered as an accessory. On Suzuki's website and under specifications... Go down to this below... Controller Area Network (CAN bus) Key to the operation of the S.I.R.S., the V-STROM 800DE uses an interconnected information network instead of a conventional wiring harness. Because it requires fewer wires, this CAN bus wiring lets the vehicle be lighter and simpler and provides a way for the advanced components - such as the cruise control - to have faster data transmission with the ECM.

Great Video! Would love to see a Dry Sump motor to knock off that low slung Sump! What about a 90 degree Big Bang instead of 270 degree firing order

@nestserau

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, hate wet sump myself, but that's a road bike...

Love my '07 650 Strom, and one of the best things about it, especially where I ride, is a great headlight, supplemented with some good LEDs on the crash bars. Helps me see deer a little sooner at night. This looks like a bike I wouldn't mind in the future, but that headlight might be a deal breaker.

@MusicalMemeology

Жыл бұрын

Yeah that headlight even if bright I worry the bugs may block it quickly and require regular cleaning.

Come on Suzuki pls add cruise and phone connectivity as options it’s 2023! If you do both I will def get this or 1050 DE.

They hit the nail on the head with this V-Strom 800, would like a few more engine spec. All I have heard that it is a long stork with 64 MPG and with the 20 litter gas tank getting toward a perfect ADV bike to do some long touring on and not having to pick your roads. Would of like to see the Dunlop TrailMax Mission tires on it for better off road. As long as the price is not to high when you get it set up for some good off road touring, one will be sitting in my stable. I do like the Yellow.

@scottsledgister1877

Жыл бұрын

Not a V-Strom. Don't know what it is but without a V-Twin it can't by definition be a V-Strom

Maybe it could be a P-Strom. I have two v-stroms a 650 and a thousand. My friends with BMW GS's spend lots of money to have them maintained. I love how Suzuki makes them to be simple and not much maintenance. They make great value motorcycles.

As a VStrom 650 owner I have to say first impression is that it is not for me. I like the looks and the colours (I agree on the grey), but 21" front wheel and offroad ground clearance is not what I am after in a touring bike.

@nairamize4996

Жыл бұрын

For you there will be the Version without DE (Dual Explorer) which is supposedly to have 19inch wheel at the front.

@neilmackinnon3371

Жыл бұрын

@@nairamize4996 I'll see what that looks like when it is released.

@RideFree317

Жыл бұрын

I have the Vstrom 650 as well but the restricted power version for New Zealand licence system . Seriously looking at the tiger 900 gt Pro when I get my full license but if they do a more Road focus version of the new strom I good be very tempted ,would save me a fair bit of money as well .

Time 4 Rieju Aventura 500 Legend

well said sir,its great to learn the details about 800de but are you sure 650xt will go out ?

Might as well get a Tiger 850

Great, are the wheels tubeless? cruise control? heated grips?

Love the the throw back color scheme...it even honors Ukraine 😁👍. Ditto on the cruise control. Can't wait for the riding reviews!

I really like this one. This and the Honda Transalp 750 are the best low seat height ADV options I have seen yet. I hope they price them reasonably.

@woodywood3388

Жыл бұрын

You think 855mm is a „low“ seat height?

@urbanadventurer5

Жыл бұрын

@@woodywood3388 compared to most off road oriented ADV bikes, absolutely. That’s essentially the same height as the diminutive KTM 390 Adventure, which I can basically flat foot one leg on at 5’6” with a 29” inseam.

@woodywood3388

Жыл бұрын

@@urbanadventurer5 gotcha! I have a Tiger 850 Sport and at 830mm I feel that’s a bit on the low side (I’m 6‘2“ with a 34 inch inseam). I would be more than happy with 855.

@urbanadventurer5

Жыл бұрын

@@woodywood3388 yeah. That’s a nice one too. With the Suzuki and new Honda Transalp, you are getting a 21” front wheel too. (similar seat height, but Honda is already offering a low seat accessory). I also like that you are getting spoked wheels with these two options. Shorter riders have often had to try to get those aftermarket if they wanted them before now.

@woodywood3388

Жыл бұрын

@@urbanadventurer5 The Tiger is very comfortable, but I don‘t believe it is a real off-roader (not that I go off road, so what would I know). The Japanese bikes (T700, Transalp, and this Suzuki seem to be more appropriate if you really want to go off the beaten path. Good luck with picking the one that‘s right for you.

Great news! Now more earlier Wee Strom's will hit the market! Winning!

@smashy_smasherton

Жыл бұрын

True dat. I’ll be able to get a deal on a 650 with all the mods soon enough.

no cruise control and tubed tyres. Both important issues for many of us. I hope they correct these misses soon, at least as options

nice bike❤

F... Just bought v strom 650-2021.......never mind, still great bike👍👍👍👍

Grey looks great. So many nice bikes. BMW’s new GS?

@Motobob Just pointing out that you keep calling the Suzuki 8S... a Suzuki 8C. Just wanted to let ya know bud. Same in last video I Just watched. Thanks for the Videos. Still Awesome as Always. Thank you @Motobob

Deffo gonna be some sweet deals in the showroom after Xmas for older bikes with this coming in! I bet you will be able to get top spec xt with touring kit for basic money just to get rid of old strom 650 stock!

@nestserau

Жыл бұрын

They are not giving up on the 650 model, it's still in production for 2023. So tbh I'm not expecting big discounts, especially considering the general shortage of supplies.

@nestserau

Жыл бұрын

@@KevinDaken A dealer told me the price would be a little bit less than Ducati Scrambler Desert Sled.

Good review as always. But I'm a bit disappointed that Suzuki put a 21 inch front wheel in it I don't understand the obsession with big front wheels when 90% of these bikes will never go off road think I'll save up a bit more and buy multistrada v2.

@pja7

Жыл бұрын

I agree. It affects the handling, and less fun on tarmac. But maybe they’ll bring out a more road orientated version like Triumph do

@parf2665

Жыл бұрын

Think they will bring out a road oriented version. The 1050 now has a road version and the offroad DE version.

@MrBenHaynes

Жыл бұрын

Yep, as a budget buy for me it's now CB500X. If I wish to splash the cash, then Tiger 900GT. Both have 19" front, cast wheels and tubeless tyres. Just what's required for their weight and function.

@nestserau

Жыл бұрын

DE is meant to go offroad. If you don't go offroad, don't buy DE. It's that simple.

@MrBenHaynes

Жыл бұрын

@@nestserau Any bike of the new V-Stroms weight is not suitable to be ridden offroad. If you wish to venture offroad, choose a lighter, less powerful bike. It's that simple.

Hi to V800 from a 250 Vstrom owner :D

Nice, quite excited by these new twins from Honda and Suzuki. Shame I can’t afford another bike 😂

Looks great, only thing is - do the wheels look like regular spokes into the rim? On the XT I have there's a lip on the rim and spokes run through that, which means its tubeless from the factory, whereas I gather this new one is tubed? Given the risk of puncture and the convenience of repair, I prefer tubeless, but for 'true offroad' maybe you need tubes?, if you deflate a little does it work better on tubed tyres??? Can you aftermarket electronic cruise control on ride by wire bikes?

@nestserau

Жыл бұрын

Yes tubed wheels give you more options. You can play with pressure, rim locks and systems that allow you to run without any air at all (like mousses). Those are usually not street legal though.

I remember the Versys getting slated for the stacked headlight in 2012 , obviously just ahead of its time !.....not keen tbh , I think the 650 should have been made to look like the 1050 in 2019 !

@nestserau

Жыл бұрын

All V-Stroms used to be ugly, regardless of displacement. This is the first one where I see the design team was working hard and not slouching.

Yeah the ECU is already controlling the throttle. A couple switches borrowed from the 1050DE, some programming, and voila...cruise control. It's a touring bike, why not?

Haven't heard anything about the weight of this bike which concerns me, especially since the 1050DE is rather heavy compared to its competition. Great job as usual MOTOBOB!

@nestserau

Жыл бұрын

It's 230 kg wet.

@robertrscott

Жыл бұрын

@@nestserau yeh, too heavy for the class its competing in!

@wfe4567

Жыл бұрын

@@nestserau yeah thats heavy

Nice

it’s almost like my old f800gs came back

@chrishart8548

Жыл бұрын

Makes less horsepower and at higher rpm, less suspension travel and its heavier. Just a worse f800gs 14 years later.

@khakimzhanmiras

Жыл бұрын

@@chrishart8548 i said “almost”

Do we think there will be more new bikes announced like a GS etc

Ηi there! Got any information on the bike's weight? Thanks!

Hi Bob. Is the front tyre tube and rear tubeless or both tube?

Both this and the transalp would be perfect, but no cruise control and tubed tires are deal breakers. Tiger 900 is still king

@nestserau

Жыл бұрын

Vice versa for me. Enough bikes with tubeless out there.

@urbanadventurer5

Жыл бұрын

It relatively easy to purchase some tubeless wheels and tires down the road if you really like the bike otherwise. It’s tough for me to see that as a dealbreaker everyone keeps claiming it is as a result lol.

The question is, which to buy, the Translap or the vStrom

Nice & Thanks :)

They should've use the katana style headlights just like it bigger brother.

is there a cast wheel model coming, 19-17 tubeless wheels?

Parallel twin is not only boring, it sounds bad and has a lot of vibrations. At least the V had the nice sound and mid-range torque.

I think Yamaha nailed it with the simplicity of the T7. You don't want your adv bike's electronic TFT up/down dual overhead suspension lifter sensor bearing USB navigator spoke to break down in the middle of the desert.

@darylclifford

Жыл бұрын

Middle of the desert eh? You’d have to hitch a ride on a camel then !!

@robertrscott

Жыл бұрын

Yamaha just updated the screen for 23, they're attempting to play catchup with the electronics as we speak.

@m3lvn415

Жыл бұрын

@@darylclifford the camel never fails 😁

@m3lvn415

Жыл бұрын

​@@robertrscott Yes, the Rally Edition and World Raid have the modern stuff. Probably to offer customers more options and variations, but not to replace the standard version?

@urbanadventurer5

Жыл бұрын

Name anyone that has ever happened to in say the last five years. 😂

Seems like a direct competitor to the Triumph Tiger 850...including the lack of cruise control.

Experience/learning/patience?

Nice bike! Now there is a much more choices! Before we did not have any option in the middle weight. I got v strom 650xt but 800 DE is more complete bike. Before we had just Tenere 700 which is impossible to buy in USA.

@Geshmaal

Жыл бұрын

Tbf with the same weight you could have a V-Strom 1000, more power too!

@nestserau

Жыл бұрын

@@Geshmaal It's 15 kg lighter than 1050 DE.

@Geshmaal

Жыл бұрын

@@nestserau but the same weight as/slightly heavier than the 2014-2019 DL1000

@JohnSmith-ef8nr

Жыл бұрын

It's heavier than the Africa twin 1100, so it's a heavy weight bike with a middle weight size engine.

tubes in the tires? ... what happened to the tubeless spoked rims?

@MrBenHaynes

Жыл бұрын

you gots to pay for them!

Hmm. I'm not as excited as some for this. It's really quite heavy (230kg) and the styling is a very mild evolution. Compared to the Transalp it's both quite a bit heavier and at the same time down on power. The decider will be the pricing.

@nestserau

Жыл бұрын

You're comparing bikes with different equipment and tank size. It can be price, but it can be also features that is the deciding factor.

@AzTurboMini

Жыл бұрын

The Transalp starting price is $10,500 😉

Are the wheels tubed?

Will there be a regular V-Strom 800?? Like a V-Strom 1050

All depends on the price

control crucero? thanks

Nice 👍

Does it have tubeless tyres ?

Oh yay. Yet another 270 parallel twin

No cruise? Other than that it looks awesome. You can have your phone with a Cardo on your helmet...

Is there a reason why there are models always sitting on the bikes? To prevent full photos of the bikes?