I completely love the 1050 engine on this bike. It's a true great. A V twin will always be different from a parallel twin. It's not monstrously powerful, or intimidating, it just has a great feel to it, with lots of torque and, probably, nothing doing over 100mph. I care not. Fabulous machine. I had one for a few weeks when my CB650R was knocked over in a carpark. Bring back the SV1000, I say. That was a really good bike.

@jakestewart7079

Жыл бұрын

I agree with you on the engine. It feels a lot more powerful than it is on paper and handles 90+ mph on long freeway stretches way better than my 1200gs. The GS does everything else better but the vstrom is really a great bike for the money.

@alpsalish

Жыл бұрын

An sv1000 would be amazing!

my 2005 Weestrom just will not die

Absolutely love the Suzuki, the Africa Twin is still better but I like them all! When you love motorcycles you want to ride them all! Haha

My 2018 1000XT V-Strom was just totalled (I was rear-ended), and while I will miss my bike it is great to know I have some upgrades coming my way. 1050DE looks like a dream.

I've always liked the look of the newest 1050, and the 21" wheel version continues that story.....nice evolutionary tweaks - very suzuki!

@UncleWally3

Жыл бұрын

Wondering why you’d want the 21” front wheel? Do you mostly ride off tarmac, single track and deep gravel?

@jokermtb

Жыл бұрын

@@UncleWally3 way better on gravel roads. Less wandering and squirming - doesn’t drop into holes as much. Much better for backroad touring and crap tarmac

I’ll definitely get the DE 1050. I waited for ages for the 21 inch front wheel and the tft screen. Now vstrom 1050 DE is a top notch for me as it can travel equally at pavement and off-road use. It’ll sure be a blast. Thanks Suzuki for listening it’s riders desires

@pablomarin1746

Жыл бұрын

Me too

@fs5866

Жыл бұрын

@@pablomarin1746 also it looks like they updated the gearing which was quite slow in 1st and 2nd compared to it's competitor africa twin, all of these changes that they made now it's what made me pick the africa twin over v strom in 2020 because they were missing.

@jeremyjohnson6438

Жыл бұрын

Are there any major downsides to the 21”? How much of a difference on road does it make?

@fs5866

Жыл бұрын

@@jeremyjohnson6438 i can honestly say there's no difference whatsoever, once you get used to the bike, it can handle like a sport bike, just make sure to put street sticky tires if you will barely take it off road. Sticky tires on an adventure bike are a no brainer if you use is as a commuter bike, do not use off road tires if it's a not exclusively an off road bike, it is actually dangerous with the lack of traction that you get.

@Randomas32

Жыл бұрын

@@jeremyjohnson6438 improvements..1. Tft screen 2. New electronics 3. 21 inch front wheel and longer travel suspension which means superb ride quality on pavement and off road 4. New gear ratio which makes it much faster 5. Engine tweaks new valves etc 6. Less sensitive throttle 7. Cruise control in any gear above 20 km/h The new 1050 DE is a much much better bike in all aspects.

This info dropped yesterday he in the States. 🙌🤣👍. Obviously Suzuki is stepping up its VStrom game finally. The DE is DElicious.😋 A bit portly but not totally Obese. Spy shots are surfacing of a Parallel Twin Vstrom,, possibly a 700cc version (see Cronicle of Solid ; on KZread). Could be a great season for Suzuki.

@thebikingviking3696

Жыл бұрын

Rumors says its gonna be 800ccm

@PaydayGabeBCNV

Жыл бұрын

@@thebikingviking3696,, 🙏 Even better. That would be the sensible thing to do. Let's hope 🙏 😬 🤞

I am very happy with Suzuki doing this! I ride an old SV1000 and knowing that now I can have the same engine with a bike that literally does it all now, might tempt me away from anything else.

Ive got a 2014 1000 that I ride tarmac/gravel 90/10, so the wheels on that bike have never let me down. Since I bought it slightly used for only $8,000 about 4 years ago, I don't feel intimidated by my buddy's $30,000 Multistrada V4, even though I'm quite down in the speed department to his bike. My bike was cheap to purchase and operate. I'd probably stick with the standard 1050, since I have a DRZ400S for off road (single-track) use.

I've had the current gen for a year now and they absolutely nailed every single one of my complaints about this bike. I don't want the super offroader or I'd go buy the KTM super adventure. This is exactly what I wanted the "poor" mans GSA.

@wombal177jim

Жыл бұрын

More like the thinking man’s GS 👍🏻

Finally they have added Cruise Control!!!

Strangest thing about the DE model is that the front tire is tube-type and the rear is tubeless! Also why the aluminium panniers mount so high?!!! the rest of the bike is great.

Great detailed spec review, seems like Suzuki have made all the upgrades to this bike!

About time they gave it a quickshifter.

I’d love to see a sport version too. Put a 17inch front wheel on it, and make it more roadworthy. Maybe call it a SV 1050.

Looks like a good option. The stand out bike is the black standard 1050 with gold wheels, looks really good.

@rafacaballero7702

Жыл бұрын

sadly its not gold but light yellow

The front rim looks like is a tube type and the back is tubeless.Hmm

Looks like a solid option! I am glad they have done this.

I have a 2019 1000XT, and the 1050XT did not have enough reasons for me to trade up. This new DE just might be enough to get me interested because half the roads I ride are gravel.

I’m always impressed by you journalist types who gripe and quibble about motorcycles that none of you put your own money into. Takes away a lot of credibility. Its whining to have something to say. If any of you actually bought these bikes, it might mean something.

wow, suzuki doing big update haha. great i hope the price isn't too steep on this model.

I own 1st gen vstrom 1000 for 7 years and i would defenetly buy 1050 XT model with 19' front rim because even though its an adv bike, 95% im on the road going to work, getting groceries, going to local bike meet and small 100km trips on road. But if i have to chose between Suzuki 1050 DE and Africa Twin i would go for Africa Twin DCT.

Bought my xt a few months ago, next year new model, Bought my Gen 1 Busa, the next year Gen 2, no regrets, still got the Busa, ill probably still have my xt in ten year's time 🤣 always a new model around the corner, only ever up to date for six months! Just like mobile phones 🤣🤣

I love my 2016 1000, but I'd be seriously tempted to upgrade, just to get the 21" wheel, and a few of the other improvements.

Reminds me of the old Suzuki DR 850 BIG which has always been my favourite looking off road bike. They should of gone with twin high level exhausts like the DR 850 and 650 had.

Way to go Suzuki ! 🏍️

👍🏾 great upgrades. With an updated 700 model to follow this one, I love where the middleweight ADV segment of bikes is headed. Now, we just need a bit more affordability and lighter weight to become the norm.

@chrishart8548

Жыл бұрын

Just going to keep getting heavier im afraid. I don't like where there heading. All the middle weight bikes are heavier than 1000cc bikes used to be.

@urbanadventurer5

Жыл бұрын

@@chrishart8548 more comfort, more features, more capability = more weight on some level, at least initially. If lighter weight is your top priority, just get 450cc-500cc single cylinder enduro bike or something like the KTM 690 Enduro R and set it up for adventure riding or rallies. Eventually, some manufacturer will crack the weight code I bet and then the industry will shift. My guess is that manufacturer will be KTM or Triumph. We’ll see though.

Buy a standard one now(on heavy discount)and spunk your €5000 at Trail deCouverte Concept and have better now for less than standard in 6mth time...Suzuki liked there's and Hessler's so much, they're building the DE(softer than both above)!

Nice presentation of the new V-Strom. Thanks

It seems the front wheel didnt arrive on time for the marketing work. Check out the rear wheel and front wheel spokes.

Thanks Bob…really tempting

I don't ride these kind of bike. But I am just glad that Suzuki is still trying.

Suzuki make good reliable bikes that last for a long time.I had a gsx650f that I put one hundred thousand miles on it.Oil changes ,chains,brake pads and tires is all I did to it.I didnt even replace the spark plugs.I sol;d the bike because i didnt need any more.

Very nice and needed improvement to the big V-Strom! I hope they will see fit to put the 21 inch wheel on the 650 and 250 models too!!

I ride a V-Storm 650XT and it’s perfect for me, 90% sealed roads and 10% gravel, almost no off road riding. I was considering upgrading to a 1050XT to take a pillion on similar roads but I wonder if the 1050DE is straying too far from the V-Strom’s market niche into a very competitive section of the market? If off road riding is a priority, there are plenty of more capable bikes out there.

I love it , I have the 2015 v strom 650 adventure xt and the 2014 v strom 1000 with mccruse with se Motech traxadv aluminum panniers I might wanna trade both of them in and buy me a brand new 2023 Thanks Ben

Here’s a question I’d sincerely like answered: Has Suzuki finally fixed the longstanding clutch basket issue? They said they’d fixed it at least twice, but is thee any evidence (other than minor adjustments and new parts numbers) that the thing won’t chudder after a few thousand kilometers?

Good looking bike. For the more offroad variant I would have liked to have seen a tire with a more aggressive offroad tread.

Nice upgrades, looks like Suzuki are sticking with the 1050 V for a while longer. I was rather hoping for an update of the 650 but unless that comes along in the next few weeks I guess we have to assume the parallel twin 700 will be taking it's place.

@chrishart8548

Жыл бұрын

If the v-strom 650 got USD forks it would be hard to tell it from the 1050. Now the 650/700 is finally getting USD forks it ends up being a p-twin. It's a bit like the yamaha MT range. You know straight away it's the mt-07 by the forks. Sometimes you see USD forks but it looks small it's the MT-03 I think old fashioned forks is just marketing really.

Like it a lot.Pity Suzuki dont have a dealer near me these days....

Dude, I literally just took delivery of my 1050XT today. Had no idea this was on the horizon when I ordered it. All good, though, I'm not overly keen on hardcore off-road riding, I bought it more for long road trips with a little unsealed roads use here and there. Not sure my budget would have extended to the DE anyway. Still happy with the XT. Maybe next time.

@mihaimihai9254

Жыл бұрын

HI! You made a perfect choice my friend! I bought mine in june I rode around 4000 miles on all kind of roads (I use it daily in Bucharest's traffic) and I have nothing to complain about it. I advice to add an engine guard if you didnt. The oil filter is really exposed.

@dog4mike

Жыл бұрын

@@mihaimihai9254 yep, very happy with it. Have only had it for a few days now, but I have no regrets. It’s a great ride!

@mihaimihai9254

Жыл бұрын

@@dog4mike I'm sure it is! What could someone regret riding a V Strom?!!! Wish you only nice and safe trips, my friend!

i would pay extra money for Africa twin.

Great vid! I've never been a Suzuki fan for their 'ADV' bikes but this one is a lot nicer in terms of build and features... however, I have owned a 2017 Africa Twin for 4 years and the V would have to been considerably better priced than the AT for me to not buy another one......

I had the 2019 XT and bought 2022 KTM 1290 SAS this year that got stolen. Iam thinking of buying new regular Vstrom 1050 for next year now that it has quickshifter and TFT screen. Sure KTM 1290 and Suzuki are hard to compare but the character of that Vtwin engine of Suzuki and the sound with Akrapovic (that I also had on KTM) are so lovely that maybe I will just go with Suzuki and not KTM insted.

Nice bike. But the front fender is too close to the tire for off road. I dont know why they do that.

FYI @motobob - It sounds like the seat still is adjustable according to Suzuki. Bike looks promising though. 👍🏾 Looking forward to the 700 they are expected to release soon. It could be a great option for someone that wants more tech than the Tenere offers, but doesn’t want to pay what the Aprilia or Ducati middleweights cost. Plus the Suzuki may be more reliable and easier to get serviced and parts for.

Useful upgrades but it’ll mean nothing if Suzuki can’t keep the price down - V Strom’s have a rep for being bullet proof and easy to work on. I could be tempted to trade my 2018 1000 for the more road biased version, but the price will have to be super competitive. No point in comparing these bikes with the top end ADV’s people are blinded by the media hype that surrounds them, in real world conditions there’s not much in it.

we really carve to learn about the navigation build in tft panel , any news on that?

The latest version xt is a vastly misunderstood bike it’s a gem a real tool you can rely on day after day year on year I’ve had two of them but I won’t be getting the new one just yet I’m still to attached to my 1050 XT

Looking forward to see what they do with the base model! If it gets that new screen and quick shifter + cruise control as standard it's going to be a heater

@janw4725

Жыл бұрын

And a bit more hp.

@drewmorg.

Жыл бұрын

@@janw4725 115 wouldn't hurt!!!

@exothermal.sprocket

Жыл бұрын

Agreed on the power. Another 20 horsepower would be fabulous. It's what makes the big KTM such an enjoyable and capable machine. Well, this is 264cc smaller, but it's derived from the old TL1000R superbike engine, but Suzuki have refined all the fizz out of it.

@drewmorg.

Жыл бұрын

@@exothermal.sprocket I think they just geared the thing for more torque since this bike is meant to also double as an "adv" an carry quite a large load.

Is the front wheel tubed while the rear is tubeless? Am I seeing this right? Odd choice.

Well done Suzuki, be interesting to see if Honda release the mini Africa twin or Transalp whatever they are going to call it.

R1250 GSA owner here. I think it looks pretty promising. Not sure why they limited it so much with suspension travel, but for those who mainly want to stick to the asphalt, that’s probably a selling point. Would love to give it a go.

@denden818

Жыл бұрын

most GS riders is stuck onto asphalt anyway 🤣

@ryanmalone2681

Жыл бұрын

@@denden818 Most ADV bikes never see dirt. I have a 4 hour ride to the mountains, so I want something that is comfy and can tour, and can still handle the trails when I get there. I think you’d be surprised how many you see when doing a BDR though.

Looks like they have got rid of the big screen adjustment latch from the front. Which seemed like an awkward place to put it.

I hope they update the XT650 atleast the damn headlight

High, the DE is now like the 1050 should had been since the beginning. Kindly Fiete

Hi bob having just sold my 2year old 8000mile 1050xt possibly one of best bikes ive owned ...but age is catching up so gone for lighter bike....the DE model has actually i believe gained 10 kilo so im definately not going back to strom ....coz i do miss the bigun🤣👍👍👍

What for biker boots was it in the video?

It’s 243KG and it doesn’t even have a shaft drive! The Africa Twin (CRF1100L) is 18KG less, has greater clearance, similar power & torque, Apple car play (& Android Auto)!

Does this mean there'll eventually be a v-strom 650DE?

I’d still take the Honda but a decent effort by Suzuki! What’s with the tubed front and tubeless rear ?

Honest question: if you want a true off-road capable adv bike, why would you get this vs Africa Twin or KTM 890 adv?

I thought it was funny how many times they mentioned “flat dirt” in the promo video.

...when the super DR1300..parallel twin is coming...???

I put 30K miles on the XT, but when it came to buy a new one I went with KTM 1290SA, as what I wanted the V-strom still wasn't providing (performance). Otherwise it's a truly excellent touring bike with excellent suspension if you take the time to set it up, so DE can only be better.

While I'll probably go with the new 890 Adventure next year I will take a look at this puppy too. I never liked the AT as, 4 me, the ergonomics just didn't work.

Comparing the vstrom with tiger 1200 or bmw 1250 ?..... Compared to the AT, or the Tiger 900 is more realistic..

Great review , my only complaint is now I want one :( haha

looks like it's capable..but I'll stick with the gsa for now great video

If it wasn't so heavy I'd get it in a heartbeat, I really liked the XT on the test ride but it just can't compete with the Tiger 900 rally pro for what I use a bike for.

@carlosandleon

Жыл бұрын

I just wanna get the 1000. I haven't seen any sumo conversions though :(

Honda Africa twin (DCT) ,Yamaha tenere 700 made any other motorcycle almost have no chance to compete even though with an impressive upgrade like the Suzuki line have..

If only they would put shaft drive on it

I would buy a good used African Twin with extra aftermarket stuff and save money while getting a better bike.

maaan, they went up in weight, again. 1050 vanilla, from 236 to 242 and XT/DE from 247 to 252. While I would understand why the DE went up, what on earth did they put 6 kilos of on the normal one ?!

Tubeless rear - tubed front ??

Africa Twin hands down🙌

Tube type tyres on the new DE?

@midhungopan9270

Жыл бұрын

Tube front 21 inch tyre & Tubeless rear tyre

Looks better to me

I thought Suzuki are ditching the v twin to a parallel twin. That will make the DE an Africa Twin.

Since I am v-twin engine fan I'm going to pick V-storm from this situation.

It seems to me that the people at Suzuki made some smart modifications, who is going to use a motorcycle of more than 200 kg to do enduro or hardcore off road? It's stupid... I say it because of what they say about the 170mm suspension, I think now it's the perfect balance for a really versatile, reliable and excellent quality bike, anyway if you give me a choice I'll stick with the base Africa twin, Cheers !

For those who normally ride like in the video, and mostly off tarmac, twenty-one inch front wheels are great. Not so much for the rest of us who ride 80% on roads and want a wide range of tire selection.

@jeremyjohnson6438

Жыл бұрын

Trying to decide between the two and I’m new to ADVbikes. Mostly commuting, should I be looking at the 19” bike?

@UncleWally3

Жыл бұрын

@@jeremyjohnson6438 In my opinion, unless you know you need a 21” front wheel, you don’t need it. Don’t get me wrong, it’s handy if you ride single track or on a lot of gravel roads . . . or you want it as a fashion statement. I certainly prefer 19” front - much better tire choice, better tarmac manners and decent stability off tarmac.

I ordered the regular 1050 2023 model now that it finnaly has TFT and quickshifter.

@aldvex8541

Жыл бұрын

tft without gps is crap imho

@skyworks1621

Жыл бұрын

@@aldvex8541 that is true, gps and navigation should be integrated specialy in 2023.

@aldvex8541

Жыл бұрын

@@skyworks1621 they are not sadly in 2023 . Suzuki is cutting from budget , if it had tubeless rim at front also connectivity i would buy it , now i lean towards africa

Hmmm interesting , if the 650 is any thing like this they can take my money

If the DE is tubeless it will be the on for me,in blue.

@aldvex8541

Жыл бұрын

it has front tube

Are you riding the motorcycle or just reading manufacturer literature while showing manufacturer video of their test rider?

No heated grips?

@alphajed7700

Жыл бұрын

Aftermarket

I'm trying to get versys 650 .. So can we get detailed review of it, since it's affordable option available

@mickleblade

Жыл бұрын

The versys price has gone up by €900 over the last 3 yrs. With panniers €10k, for a bike with 66 ponies?

Finally 😊🇳🇴

Taking all the big adventure bikes in the world, I wonder what the percentage of miles are offroad. 10%? 1%? 0.1%? I know other countries are different, but for the UK, I can't wrap my head around why anyone would want a 21" front wheel when over 99% of their riding will be on-road.

@Nulrom

Жыл бұрын

Because it doesn't matter the 97 if you feel insecure in the 3%. Btw I agree with you, I don't think there are enough good riders to really use a 21 of a 1000cc bike. BMW teaches that.

@brucerossonthetube

Жыл бұрын

My Africa Twin is about 25% hard-core off-road ( not just gravel), so it's nice to see I bring the average up.😀

@ewganhoff

Жыл бұрын

@@brucerossonthetube That's awesome, dude. The envy is real. I see you're in Canada where you have access to that kind of riding. Here in Scotland there is nearly zero reason to have an adventure bike or dualsport. It's illegal to ride in government run forestry areas and the rest is owned by landowners and estates. I'd love to have a reason to own an old DRZ or XR, but there is just no point.

@brucerossonthetube

Жыл бұрын

@@ewganhoff that really sucks and I agree. If you happen to watch Itchy Boots on KZread she recently crossed the border in to where I often ride. Hopefully she finds the good dtuff but honestly it's hard to go wrong in southern BC.

Cracking bike but the ground clearance is still its downfall for those wanting to do more serious off road.

New sub ! Liked ✌️🙏😊😊😉❤️

I don't think the VStrom competes with the Africa Twin. I think it's more like a GS 1250 that doesn't cost a fortune to buy, maintain, or repair.

tubeless two rins??

@019208237

Жыл бұрын

Tubeless rear and the front is tubed.

nice

AT FTW ADL (all day long)

Ahhhh! Where is the ApplePlay???

@aldvex8541

Жыл бұрын

its not in this model

It will be difficult for Suzuki to take any of the adventure market with this bike, it’s looking more like Suzuki, Yamaha, Kawasaki, Honda have lost their way in the last 3 years although Hondas strong point is the Africa Twin. Competition is now so strong from Europe globally from Ducati, Triumph, KTM.

@MARKINAU8

Жыл бұрын

Price mate

@bblundell9404

Жыл бұрын

It is a good bike, good engine. Still ok in standard form for short riders. It is not all about a few true off road riders. The money is in sales numbers...

@pablomarin1746

Жыл бұрын

they can compete with the euro companies with better prices

@ThePalmatron

Жыл бұрын

@@pablomarin1746 ...and better reliability.....

@kannermw

Жыл бұрын

The money to be made is in attractively priced aventure tourer and forget about off-road capability. Suzuki keeps trying to make the VStrom into something it is not without complete redesign. It is just plain dumb strategy that will not win them market share exce0t from the gullible. I am by the way a proud 2018 1000XT owner but would only be interested in base version.

What DE stands for?

@alphajed7700

Жыл бұрын

Some people says it's "Desert Express", some says "Dual Explorer", I don't know which one is true.

@roadwarrior8560

Жыл бұрын

Germany

@vstm3950

Жыл бұрын

@@roadwarrior8560 ;)

@grayjohn1906

Жыл бұрын

Dakar Edition

@alphajed7700

Жыл бұрын

@@grayjohn1906 maybe. 😄

Did you see that the front tyre is not tubeless? I dislike that.