My take on Mormon Stories "Transparency Update"
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He is the soft, gentle landing for the panicked, and you're the laid back party wine aunt for once the panic is over ;)
@sunnibrann6914
Жыл бұрын
Love this!
@tracygrist9550
Жыл бұрын
@@sunnibrann6914 ditto!
@CarahBurrell
Жыл бұрын
I'm deLIGHTED by this.
@kadynadair592
Жыл бұрын
this made me giggle
@charlesmendeley9823
Жыл бұрын
I believe the opposite. Young folks will land at young KZreadrs such as Nuancehoe, Zelph on the Shelf, or Jordan and McKay. But in the end they will end in the rabbit hole of binge watching hundreds of episodes of Mormon Stories to find out ALL about Mormonism, including polygamy, etc, in depth.
I was talking about you. Was afraid you would feel like I was calling you out!!!
As a never Mormon, I have to ask myself why I keep going back to Mormon Stories year after year, but even more, why do I keep expanding the list of exmos I have to keep up with. As an ex-Catholic, I understand that we take some very good things from our upbringings, even though the churches themselves are built on fairy tales. I come back because I find people who are genuine, giving, compassionate - and passionate about life and living. Truth-seeking, love, humor - who doesn't need more of that in their life? This to say, thank you.
@WillowT442
Жыл бұрын
Same!
@widermargins
Жыл бұрын
Nevermo, ex-Catholic here also. I hear ya!
@joannestanley8478
Жыл бұрын
Same
@marionrose2669
Жыл бұрын
Same
@WhiteArtsMagic
Жыл бұрын
maybe its a reminder as to why to avoid mormonism...
I can never say enough, Carah. You are so amazing and I absolutely love love love LOVE everything you bring to the table. I love your content and grateful for all of you do. I hope you get the love/Patreon’s/credit you deserve.
Carah, you are truly a friend in this community, I am amazed at the work you are putting in this space!
@CarahBurrell
Жыл бұрын
LC you are always such a treasure.
@China-Clay
Жыл бұрын
@@CarahBurrell 😇🥰💃🏼
@billiondollardan
Жыл бұрын
this is a a very mormon exchange ;) j/k it's super nice
I appreciate all you and John do. I’ve been out of the cult for 40 years and only because of you guys do I feel at peace. My shelf broke while serving a mission and have felt ostracized and alone until I discovered you guys.!Thank you!
Carah, You are great. I appreciate hearing your take on John's video - gives us all more perspective. I loved you on Mormon Stories, but I totally see how it held you back from being totally authentic. As for Mormon Stories in general, I love the long form interviews and hearing about everyone's journeys. I also love any "current events" updates. I am a never-Mormon, just fascinated by cults and the process of indoctrination and deconstruction. Feel like the more I educate myself, the less likely I will succumb.
I liked this video very much . I am a mormon stories lifer and say...keep on going more power to you and others doing this stuff. All the things gs I relate to on the caregiver issues....so hard....so unbelievably difficult...I have had 8 children one of whom is a total care disabled individual. I have worked outside the home to gain my sanity at times and went back and forth because of the toll it takes on everyone else. Good luck with this balancing act we call life...
Oh my word - I'm a never-mo but my husband is into making short films as a hobby, and I TOTALLY get what you're saying about the technical side of things. It constantly amazes me how undeveloped film and audio tech is before it is released to the market, and how hard it is to get some items when they break-down. LOL - that alone is enough to deal with, never mind the intensity of having to deal with leaving a high-demand religion and all the other things that go with creating content, doing the marketing and so on. Hats off to you all.
What John does is important but he (or anyone) can stop anytime he/she needs to for his/her own personal health. Hopefully other people will embrace the longer interview formal.
I had to listen the the meldrom episode on 2x and I STILL couldn't finish. I cannot imagine sitting through it in real time
I really appreciate this insight Carah, thank you
Always interested to hear what you have to say! A fun fact is that after years of seeking to confirm my faith complete with loads of unanswered prayers, actually what broke my shelf was a philosophy unit in my BYU-H history class 😂 I left the church quietly, without announcement, out of necessity as a student there. But have always been SO fascinated to encounter other ex-mormons over the years, especially those whom I knew earlier from high school. It fascinates me to hear their stories and learn I'm not the only one (plus there's always something funny about having a beer with an old buddy from Laurels class!). I am just 17 years later discovering this whole online community! So many of us! And people like you being vocal and sharing bold content! Wow. Makes me proud. Makes me think about all the things again that I hadn't thought much of for years, to find that in some ways my faith crisis trauma is still very present and raw. I'm listening to ex-mormon content 24/7 these past few weeks, fully absorbed and fascinated! Also, on your recommendation, I'm putting on the Interview With Native American Women episode of Mormon Stories next :)
Bravo and thanks for the update. I look forward to hearing your podcast with Aaron.
Carah, thank you. You are a beautiful person. ❤️❤️❤️
The Meldrum interview messed with my head because I have relatives like him. I know I would be healthier if I didn't immerse myself in the post-Mormon thing but I really have issues with new babies being born into the family being raised with the same lies as their grandparents and great grandparents. I enjoy you and John, separately. I think you is Alpha-peeps! 😁💕
@charlesmendeley9823
Жыл бұрын
You do not need to worry too much. The concept to whitewash its history simply does not work in times of the internet. Read for example the Wikipedia article on the Second Anointing. It's impossible to restrict internet use in out society, and it will be impossible to keep the historical issues of the churchnunder the rug. As you can see with the Gospel Topic Essays, the Church is already moving towards transparency. The only question left is: will Mormonism collapse once the facts are transparent to everyone, or in what form will it survive?
I started listening to this during the live stream but work go in the way of me finishing then. So, now I've been able to finish and I want to share how much MS has helped in my gaining a significantly clearer picture of the LDS Church. I also, enjoy and look forward to your thoughts, jokes, and insights. I am especially appreciative of your vulnerability within this space. It makes it very real and genuine. Thanks!!
@CarahBurrell
Жыл бұрын
That’s so nice!!! Thank you!
@davidmilot8656
Жыл бұрын
@@CarahBurrell, you are very welcome!
Started watching Mormon Stories, as my dad was stationed at Hill AFB in the 70's, and I had quite a few Mormon friends. I really, really miss seeing you on there! Glad I found you, and am now a subscriber!!! Love your wit and humor!
I thank you both for putting these videos out. I truly had no idea of what the church is really about even though i was born and raised in it. I am a daughter of mormon pioneers. The hardships they faced were unimaginable to me. Also, my great great grandfather was the first man arrested and imprisoned in SLC for practicing polygamy. My mother remained a devout member her entire life and was very disappointed that only 1 of the 11 of us stayed with the church. Her patriarchal blessing said she would not die. I held onto that, then I sat with her as she died. I have not been a practicing member for 40 years, but I still believed in my heart that my mother's beliefs were true. It's been over 3 years and my brother (who remained active) passed from cancer without reaching out to any family members. Shocking and sad really. I then stumbled onto a "mormon stories". It wasn't what I expected and I can't get enough. I've since ordered mormon history books and more. For the first time in my life, I no longer feel guilty. Quite the opposite, in fact. So thank you!!! I'm sure your attacked from all sides and that's very sad. But I just really want to THANK YOU❤❤❤!!! There are a lot of us out here that appreciate your value, insite and honesty.
As I watched John’s recent transparency video, I assumed this was mainly about you and hoped and prayed you guys are still friends and that this will never change. I love and respect you BOTH!
@ginafrancis4950
Жыл бұрын
I was worried too! So glad we were mistaken! I look forward to seeing John Larson and Carah on MSP every month. The two of them together is a treat. I hope that doesn’t change. I especially miss Carah’s spontaneous quips and thoughtful insight when she was co-hosting MS.
Being away from the children is a scar many of us have to bare, at least for a little while. Just make sure make it worth it, and never forget the little ones that will look you in the eye when you return. Much props to the husband as well.
The “eff it, we’re doing it live” quote is exactly what I say every time I press record. 😂
Carah, I love to hear your takes on Mormonism as a former Catholic who went through a faith crisis. I don’t think I’ve ever seen you say anything very out of turn (not that I’ve seen it all). Sometimes when you say things or ask questions plainly, people find it flippant. That’s their opinion and you happen to have a different style of discussion. That shouldn’t be something that causes bridges to be burned. You speak from the heart and you’re funny! Keep up the good work!
The person sharing the story neeeeeeds the time the long format allows to be clearly understood. So many people don’t understand that active Mormonism is a lifestyle and thought process and your part time work and your talent honing duty. For real. A “low level” Mormon attends church 2-3 times weekly. That’s without Scouts or Youth or Homemaking or Visit Teaching or choir practice oooorrrrrr need I go on? It’s the core of who you are and it’s enmeshed in your every day. Molds your dreams and sets your perception of EVERY. DAMN. THING! It’s a damn process to unlearn life and how to live on your own thoughts. It’s crazy. Also…you’ll never find friends that put in what you do as a lifer. MORMON. WOMEN. SERVE. Your clarification is good and necessary. People and their assumptions need checked. Always. We ex Mormons haven’t been overcome by the shadow people, our moral compass hasn’t wavered…..just our ability to ignore free and critical thinking. We remain good humans. Good to see your face sister. 😜 Be well. ❤️✌🏼🏡💪🏼
@nathandavis293
Жыл бұрын
The best thing for my healing was asking John if I could just email him my whole story. So I did. Just getting it all out. Having him reply. Helped me heal SO much.
@China-Clay
Жыл бұрын
Homemaking, Scouts, Visiting Teaching? Girl, you’ve surely been out for a while!!!
Sorry for commenting so early in the video, but I just felt like I needed to throw out my 2 cents on things. There are so many people to thank, I wish I could name them all. It’s something I am relatively new to , and when I’ve had questions or clarification etc. majority of people and places I have found the info have been amazing!!! Videos like these and the others you make, as well as other creators (sorry but I do need to give them a nod as well) are helpful in answering questions, bringing context to things and bringing new light to subjects I haven’t thought about or thought of in a different way. It’s nice to have a safe space. I didn’t know I needed it until I had it. So thank you. ❤
"Holding space" with empathy is so necessary, but I'm surprised you all don't melt down and burn out after every podcast. These sessions are so intense for us traumatized exmos, but after 35 years, I think I'm finally ready to start facing it more directly in my life rather than only in my art. And so here I am listening and venting in essential cathartic ways because of you and the other intrepid Mormon podcasters.
Joseph Smith was a 19th century version of L. Ron Hubbard.
Thank you for being true to you, Carah. I thoroughly enjoy your sassy sisterness!
@CarahBurrell
Жыл бұрын
Awwww thanks ❤️❤️
TBM husband had a melt down when he saw my iPad screen as I listened to an MS podcast, he threatened to move out. I was strong, my thoughts didn’t escape out of my word hole (great honey! I’ll help you pack).
@advisorywarning
11 ай бұрын
Update?
@Jsppydays
2 ай бұрын
You go girl. If your marriage is based on religion that's a very sad day. No matter what religion you are, you are still you and if you're not loved for who you are you're not loved.
I miss you on Mormon Stories. I loved your sarcasm and humor.
I love the "nobody wins" rant. ...but then again, I love reading a Kurt Vonnegut novel 😀
Love you Carah❤ I’d love to see more videos on Patreon, like cross posts of other vids. I like long videos, love the lives, talking a lot, talking fast, it’s fun following along your random side bars in stories. I have ADHD. Listening to you is calming, kinda meditative. I was diagnosed with ADHD as an adult. I’d always thought of myself as a splash thinker. Growing up I thought it was normal that some people think in a straight line, and others think in big colorful splashes, like me and sister. I’d forgotten about this childhood memory. It resurfaced when I was watching your shorts and TikTok’s
Off topic, but your hair is so freaking beautiful!
Carah your succulent on the windowsill isn’t getting enough sunlight that’s why it’s stretching out
Carah, you are doing a great job & your respect for John seems very real...
@CarahBurrell
Жыл бұрын
Aw thanks. I always try to keep it real.
Thanks for sharing. I’m another never-Mo who listens to learn about people’s stories/experiences. The issues seen in the Mormon Church can and do exist elsewhere but maybe with just a different flavor. (Just saw a doc on Hulu about male teachers abusing teenage girls and man did the themes sound familiar- ala protect the org at the expense of the victims, victim blame, ….) Getting these stories told help us recognize the patterns and hopefully improve in the future. I love your dedication to being authentic! Read a couple comments about your ‘foul language’ and it made me chuckle a wee bit. I always found not swearing a bit silly. For example using the word “shoot” instead of “shit” - ummm the meaning is EXACTLY the same so why be offended by one & not the other? Say what you mean & be authentic and most people will be here for it. Wishing you much success.
you are really doing great and from what I see and hear, you don't need fancy studio shit, i love it raw and real... and you are. Chthonic says "Fuk it up "!
Loved you on MS and not that my opinion is at all relevant to you or your value as a intellectual, friend, daughter, wife mother but you and your nose are absolutely beautiful 💗💕
thanks so much . . . I miss you on MS, but I also applaud you for doing what is right for you . . .
@CarahBurrell
Жыл бұрын
Thanks. That means a lot ❤️❤️
I was noticing how beautiful the painting looks on and around windows . GREAT WORK LADY. YOUR A GREAT WOMAN.
@CarahBurrell
Жыл бұрын
Thank you. This was all a long round about way to show of my home remodel.
@lurenacornella6588
Жыл бұрын
I'm doing a house remodel myself on a Nevada farm. They own many old homes that need alot of T.L. C. I'm happy doing the work. YOU DO GREAT WORK WITH YOUR COMEDY ETC. THANKS FOR SHARING YOUR AUTHENTIC SELF.
I always enjoyed you on Mormon Stories and was SO sad to that you left, but its completely understandable. No one can really understand until they have walked in your or John's shoes, I think. I just wish you were able to not beat yourselves up all the time just because some of the listeners are still rooted in their past and can't move forward without criticising all the time. But then, I am not a Mormon never have been. But I spend hours and hours listening to people's stories of leaving cults/high control religions because of where I live. It's a centre for these religions, there's a Mormon temple nearby, Saint Hill Manor is just up the road, JWs are here... its a mecca. And I want to understand the people I live with. Anyway, power to you. X 💚
I think John missed one of attributes needed: the ability to let criticism roll off. Skim them for reoccurring themes and delete them.
@charlesmendeley9823
Жыл бұрын
I think John is amazing and perfect just the way he is. The only tidbit missing is the emotional intelligence level of Margi. I am always blown away about the way she frames questions. John often considers the cognitive side of a faith crises, asking for cracks. Margi picks up on the emotional cracks a perfection based high demand religion puts on people, especially women. I therefore loved the two-host model recently introduced to the format where John and Margi take turns.
My final analysis of this vid. You did absolutely perfect and awesome, and the rando family stuff , and "imperfect" whatever... absolutely amazing... every word and min of my time.... Well done, hope someday I can back it up with $$
I love you and John and I was also very turned off by the name Nuancehoe! We are all in different places! Turns out I really enjoy your perspective 🙂 TBH, I am still turned off by f-bombs. Have a great day Carah!
@Mr2blue2
Жыл бұрын
It always pays to keep it classy and professional. You will never know how many doors closed to you by playing it loose and careless i.e. F-Bombs etc. If a person wants to be that way fine but it does carry a hidden price tag.
200k is barely scraping by in Utah! It does sound like a lot, but it won't get you far in the land of dentists.
Doin’ it for the algorithm. :). J/k. You make me laugh, though I know this may have been a hard one to film.
I've been going through a lot of faith crisis during the last two years or so. I've finally decided to leave the church which has helped me a great deal. I've also found that it helps me to listen to these pod shows and hear others who go through what I I do or have gone through.
📕 What is the book you recommended towards the end of this video?
@imafunmom
Жыл бұрын
Answering my own question in case others are curious… the book is “Inner Bonding” by Margaret Paul.
Meldrum on Mormon Stories was an absolute total waste of time and bandwidth and intelligence, energy and mentation. That won’t scare off any worthwhile guest or story worth worth interviewing. Good luck and best wishes, Carah.
@JM-pg5rc
Жыл бұрын
And also that evangelical he just had on again that he gushes over. That has really turned me off.
The Vape keeps me going to. Keep up the great work 👍 👏 💪
Your the real deal Carrah! You got game! Big John D. Same Way !!!
I miss you on MormonStories. I’m so glad I found this video a year later. ❤
Some of what has been expressed about the inner workings is a bit cryptic to me, but I'm glad you both do what you do. And I'm a nevermo ex-Catholic atheist/agnostic... I just like seeing people stand up to institutional bullies, particularly religious ones.
I thought you were a good dimension / addition to the MSP but you described yourself as I saw you… “a bunch of bees buzzing in your head” I saw/see you as a snarky millennial that is/was needed in the MSP space… I support you as a content creator.
I just watched like 5 Mormon Stories videos and you were in all of them. Didn't know you left! What happened?
@heinzhair
Жыл бұрын
nuanceho has a great video on her channel about why she left. Definitely worth the watch!
@jpenir
Жыл бұрын
@@heinzhair ok ill check it out!
You said enough. It's not my business why you left MS. Other people redirect their lives every day and you can too.
@myfruitloopsfamily6612
Жыл бұрын
Still felt compelled to leave that comment huh, mr Parkin
Enjoyed!
Nuancehoe, you should be in a Starbucks commercial targeted to Utah. That would be hilarious.
I think things have gotten busier on all the mormon blogs since this aired. Ballard, Hildebrandt, visions of glory 🤯
The Meldum episodes were horrendous. I had to stop listening. It was hard for me to process the fact that he was allowed to spew his unfounded “truth”.
@LaLaJonesG
Жыл бұрын
I didn’t listen to them 😆
wonderful live stream thanks nuancehoe
How DO you do video-in-video? I’ve been trying to figure it out & have watched tutorials but am still super confused.
You’re the Swifty of Mormonism. Finding all those Easter eggs 🪺
I love you! ❤️
I love your Beautiful Hair, Cara. You are very talented.
Thanks for your comments life and Y
it's always a great day to not clean your kitchen
never tic toc 'd .... now I gotta go see them !!! Worlds awesomest mom in action !!
1:32:19 Didn't catch the name of the book Carah recommended here. Anyone have that?
Rod Meldrum is a Nimrod. (only post-mos will get the name reference.) He's out of touch to the point, I think he's making it up as he goes along.
@charlesmendeley9823
Жыл бұрын
He got lost in a rabbit hole he dug for himself. Poor soul.
Could you and Leah Remini do a few episodes together? It was watching Going Clear that made me see the culty, abusive side of Mormonism. I thought you could be the Leah Remini of Mormonism. Love to you from a South African ex Mormon. 🇿🇦🍄💐 Thank you for explaining.
Hey! Tldr: you're great, here's some positive energy. FWIW: I stumbled across exmo KZread through my pseudo-academic and recreational fascination with mormonism. I've come to pretty avidly watch you, zelph, lex, Jordan and Mckay, Sam and Melissa and of course MS. I watched John's vid last night and didn't have these words yet to comment there. As I've learned more about this community as a nevermo, it's helped me navigate my ongoing reconciliation with my fraught, less than ideal conservative Christian upbringing and not church related traumas. My career is in progressive politics-notoriously and cruelly ironically- often exploitative and all consuming cause- work. I applaud John for his vulnerability here in asserting even the intention of boundaries. I feel how difficult that is HARD. You are all gems who provide comfort and light to so many strangers. Thanks for doing your part to build a better world. I'll keep doing mine. High fives, team mates! Will endeavor to drop similar posts on other creators pages when I can to keep the sparkle spreading.
@aureliagold1222
Жыл бұрын
I know (and love) all the others, but who are Sam and Melissa and MS?
@KNosk826
Жыл бұрын
@@aureliagold1222 ah! Sorry. Sam and Melissa have a channel called growing up in polygamy. And MS= Mormon stories
Shouldn't we stop lying to our kids in all aspects....santa, easter bunny, tooth fairy. All of these have to do with getting the behavior we want on false pretenses.
@xarla16
3 ай бұрын
I think it’s quite possible to create magic without putting moral judgment in. Santa can just come without the threat of getting coal. The Easter bunny was never seeped in judgmental undertones for me. The toothfairy can simply perform the transaction of teeth for money.
You are amazing
Lmao not gonna lie your monologue about the miserable Mormon leaders and a demented prophet is fucking hilarious and oddly comforting.. thanks carah!
I'm glad there's no beef there.
@CarahBurrell
Жыл бұрын
All good vibes.
lol I totally saw that tik tok that you took down! I was stunned lol. I knew that would freak John out
@CarahBurrell
Жыл бұрын
John didn’t. We both decided to take it down
You way ROCK, BETTER than Mormon stories!!! we gotta have a Lets all vape and chat.
Ex evangelical fundamentalist here. Your story has helped me realize that I was raised in a cult. The differences are there, but fundamentalism is fundamentalism. I appreciate your openess, honesty, and humor.
@er7889
Жыл бұрын
Go check out Fundie Fridays if you haven't, they talk all about Christian Fundamentalism.
@Arien451
Жыл бұрын
Same, Erika. It all feels very familiar and is also helping me process a lot of crap.
If john wrote a book, I'd buy it.
When you left Mormon Stories, I lost interest, but still respect John greatly--and all of you who do this intense work.
Enjoyed thx
John, likes , Caribbean Queen!!! Heck Yeah.
Overall big kudos to all content providers shedding light on Mormon bogus truth claims!
Really enjoyed this response video from you. I’ve always felt conflicted over you but couldn’t put my finger on why. This response helped me pinpoint the conflict while also helping realize where you stand and see that the ‘conflict’ was only my misunderstanding/perception but doesn’t actually exist. We have different senses of humor and yours is a little harsh or crude for my taste. While I could respect our differences, I made assumptions based off of your humor and couldn’t contemplate that empathy, compassion and holding space for others was of the greatest importance to you. It became apparent in this response video that those things are your top priority but our differences in humor prevented me from seeing that. I also learned in this response that you have a great amount of respect for a certain content creator that I again, I truly do not understand. I was hoping to gain some insight from your opinion or be pointed to some content that could help me appreciate them also. I don’t want to publicly mention the creator or the reasons I have difficulty with them. Where can I message you privately? I considered TikTok but then remembered that you’d have to be following me.
Please keep your videos coming thanks from duff
I'm sorry, the book is Inner what?
@CarahBurrell
Жыл бұрын
Inner Bonding! :)
@tolowreading6807
Жыл бұрын
@@CarahBurrell Thank you!
I remember when I evolved past a religious organization and kept the good and realized, I choose it all! And then looked here and agreed that there's a whole lot of drummed up psychosis with the exmo community
All this feels dark to me, when are you're going to get it?
Got to say this is the first content I've ever seen of you that shows me you have a good sense of humor. I've never seen you be this funny before. To me you usually seem as sanctimonious as any Mormon. Sometimes the amount of anger I see from you towards the Mormon Church borders on being angry and pedantic. Of course most of the content I've seen is a lot newer than this one. Maybe it's all about timing?
I can’t make out the name of the book you are recommending around 1:32:20- I’m guessing it’s Inner Bonding, is that right?
@CarahBurrell
Жыл бұрын
Yes!
My whole large family is/was Mormon and I watch some of the ones that have left the church, or been kicked out, and some of them seem to be in such limbo. I feel very grounded now that I have joined a Christian church. My advice to you all is...don't throw the baby out with the bath water.
You're beautiful Carah!
E A Koetting would be a cool Formon interview !!!!!
House Husbands Rock.... love it.... House Husbands of the World Unite !!!! ✊
My perception of John watching this is that he still spends a lot of time worrying what others think of him. I think he still has that feature of Mormonism where he’s trying to prove that he’s not the monster that his critics say he is. This is very different from a self-compassionate view of himself. I think because he has so much concern for how his videos are perceived and how he might be criticized, he definitely sacrifices authenticity for palatability with a wider audience. I think that’s triggering for a lot of us who have come out of the ex-mo process with authenticity as one of our new values
@Hallahanify
3 ай бұрын
Good point. I can't believe he tried to raise his kids in the church, I don't understand that.
Why is there a foundation? I mean it’s a KZread channel.
@charlesmendeley9823
Жыл бұрын
Again, John tried to do even more stuff than just a KZread channel, e.g. events, counseling, etc. But the KZread channel is his flag ship. It shows one of his iterations to grow beyond one single venue, which is smart since his success was not guaranteed or obvious at the time.
Crony Capitalism and Monopoly is oppressive. Competition is healthy...
I don't know of any workspace involving a large amount of people, that does not have a lot of backstabbing etc., although the fact that you are dealing with SO many damaged people adds a whole new dimension.
You or me or someone should do a "Mystery Science Theater" type of channel for "Living Scriptures"... Imagine how many poor sods had that shit stuffed in their heads?? I was on the 2nd salesforce when the were just cassette tapes.... what a sick sordid story.... feel tainted forever