Nobody takes a knife anywhere to smash a window.

@ricknaughty1016

Жыл бұрын

And he didnt need it to chop down plants. Shes in denial or stupid like the gang of idiots. U can just snap plants or pull them out

@samdub

Жыл бұрын

@@ricknaughty1016 Plants do get chopped when they’re robbed, but still. How about when you’re putting the window in and someone appears you run away, instead of stabbing and murdering the home owner?

@janeilsley7702

Жыл бұрын

He didnt

@samdub

Жыл бұрын

@@janeilsley7702 No, he took it to stab someone if they got in the way, clearly.

@jantC1

Жыл бұрын

He didn’t. Did you watch the video?

she’s in denial. her son was involved in organised crime, drove to the scene of the crime and his car would’ve been used to get away from the robbery. In a bank robbery, the getaway driver is arrested and charged and he was essentially the same role. A life sentence is harsh, however a person was killed as a result of their attempt to rob the house.

@acenmitch1048

Жыл бұрын

100% was probably a gang member from the age of 16 like she said. Just got away with most things before. He should’ve got a lighter charge but still got 15 years anyway so it’s hard for them to complain

@sweetytweety0011

Жыл бұрын

It’s not even harsh. He knew he was there to help people commit a crime and this was not the first time. Without her son’s transport there, this man may very well still be alive.

@MiscellaneousMeMe

Жыл бұрын

When you take into consideration that he will only complete 7 1/2 years with good behaviour, its a fair sentence.

@djdarksidejungle559

Жыл бұрын

so that soesnt make him guilty of murder because the narrative is he was in a gaNG not all people into gangs are preadtory county lines drug barons and involved in extortion and murder when in reality it was prob a music connection they did a load of guys fro same thing cause they made a drill video and portrayed that as a gang lifestyle thing and he got done under joint enterprise and its unjest and unfair and its not the same as inference where they could argue you were in on it cause we got survalaince to say you were in on it but joint enterprise is unfair and because someone knows someone in a gang like everyone does just through life and then is getting pulled in on a murder wrap just cause he knew the guys then thats unfair a lot of these young kids and the gang thing lot of its just a music thing and everyone they know is doing it doeasnt mean their doing it and its not inference and proof of con spiracy by survallaince and proving the burden of proof joint enterprise is didfferent

@scorebagmuncher7670

Жыл бұрын

@@djdarksidejungle559 he wasn’t pulled in just because he knew the guys??? he was pulled in because he traveled to the scene of the crime, was involved in the planning and his car provided a veichle to get out of the area. I get the temptation and circumstances can lead to being involved in crime and gangs, however this does not mean people should receive light sentences. In my opinion the mothers denialism most likely contributed to how he ended up in this position, parents need to stop being in denial that their once innocent children havent became involved in crime.

Pretty sure the entire point of ‘joint enterprise’ is to deter people from being involved because they’re ‘only a driver’ or ‘only the lookout’. Without those people the crime may not have successfully taken place. Makes sense to me.

@James-lm6wt

10 ай бұрын

Exactly

The group of them all look like the type of friends you wouldn't want your child hanging around

@VVVBenjaminC

10 ай бұрын

They are scholars, every one

Him being in jail prevents crime and a whole lot more misery for other people, for years to come.

Hard to have any sympathy. Don’t drive around robbing people with a knife and you’ll stay out of jail. Simple really

Let’s be honest here. Even if he had no clue they was going to kill. What he did know was that the guys he was with were not going to pussyfoot on this mission. They had already drove 70+ miles, so if the mission flopped or plan b came along, I’m sure he was aware of the consequences. Yeah he may of not know that someone was gonna get killed, but he sure knew they was capable, otherwise he wouldn’t of done the move with them 🤭 your rolling round with dangerous guys & your suprised they killed someone? Ride your bird bro. You was happy robbing people on the street & now you got karma. Are we suppose to feel bad? Like Foreal. Mums in total denial aswell…..mentioning autism like that stops you from knowing what’s right and wrong. As I said, can’t do the time, don’t do the crime g 🤷🏻

@oneallah5281

Жыл бұрын

Ride da sentence like Guantanamo bay

@user-nw2vr2op1d

11 ай бұрын

@@oneallah5281what u on about u neek

Play stupid game win stupid prizes.

Most children are always innocent in mummy's eyes. It's always "oh my poor baby who made you do this". 🙄

@ricknaughty1016

Жыл бұрын

Dumb woman lol hiding behind "autismn" as an excuse

Interesting to read the comments, because I’m in agreement with both the mother & the lawyer. The mother never once said she believed her son was innocent & should’ve got away Scot free, nor is the lawyer saying that. They’re questioning if sentencing should be the same for the perpetrator of the murder, & the one present who wasn’t aware they had a weapon or had any intention of harming anyone. I don’t believe it should. 26 years (whether he serves that or not is irrelevant right now) for something he wasn’t physically present for in the moment, & to be accused of murder, is very damning, not just because of the ‘life’ sentence (which would’ve been on par with the actual murderer), but the stigma surrounding that label when he exits prison will never leave him. He should absolutely serve time for his part, but 26 years for murder? Eh.

@rahuldahoob4513

Жыл бұрын

Is her son's father black?

@LauraBidingCitizen

Жыл бұрын

@@rahuldahoob4513 Why does that matter?

@ricknaughty1016

Жыл бұрын

@@rahuldahoob4513 obviously. None them was white and the mums white. Lol?

@rahuldahoob4513

Жыл бұрын

It's just a question! Cock a doodle do

@LauraBidingCitizen

Жыл бұрын

@@rahuldahoob4513 An irrelevant one.

From when she said her son was involved in burglaries.... She knows her son is in it!!!

@NotUnymous

Жыл бұрын

Brainiac. 🤦‍♂️ So you didnt get a single thing about what they are talking in this 9 minutes long Video... By any chance, did you vote for Brexit? 😂

@summer_jonesjones296

Жыл бұрын

@@NotUnymous 😂😂 vote for brexit... How can a mother sit there an defend her son... He's a criminal, they all are!

@ckbond41

Жыл бұрын

Do you truly believe he deserve 26 years for sitting in his car.

Your son gets 2 lifes how many lifes does the guy they killed get??

I watched another video where a man was stabbed and killed in a honey trap murder for two Rolex watches. It was clearly a Honey trap operation but only one man was charged for murder the tow females and the other man were charged with manslaughter. It seems these judges pick and choose.

@tj6544

11 ай бұрын

Exactly my thoughts too. What could be the difference? Maybe the joint enterprise law has been relaxed, the race of the victim, prior convictions etc

I’m a criminal, I went to jail. Hate to burst your bubble love but your sons a criminal too. He went there to help someone rob someone’s house. Answer here is tough shit, you can’t do what u done then cry about it when you get caught. Wish these people would stop acting like their kids have done nothing wrong. If it was any of my kids I’d be like shit his going jail we need to get him out the country, I wouldn’t be saying oh no his innocent

So if the same logic applys, if the CPS falsely prosecutes innocent victims who after are found not guilty at trial ,the CPS ,lawyers ,judges ,prosecution witnesses,court staff ,police ,and prison staff should all be held accountable for joint enterprise.

@MayorSom

Жыл бұрын

They’ve smoothed the edge to absolve themselves from any accountability. This is a social class from the same conveyor belt.

Where’s the dad ? Why do media outlets always make it out as if the woman found her kids in a cabbage patch?

@VVVBenjaminC

10 ай бұрын

She obviously made some bad life decisions. People should know better tbh

At any second he could have turned the car round and said ‘I’m not driving you there’. He could have driven to a police station and reported them. He could have stayed at home and called the emergency services. Any of these things could possibly have meant that the poor man would still be alive and Calum may still be free. He only has himself to blame I’m afraid. His poor mother though who clearly loves him very much.

@ricknaughty1016

Жыл бұрын

She should have handed him in wen she knew he was doing burgularies first maybe he would have been locked up and this wouldnt have happened. She admited to knowing during covid. But she condoned his actions and let him carry shes equally responsible

@LauraBidingCitizen

Жыл бұрын

@@ricknaughty1016 I’m sorry, how do you know she didn’t? You just watched an 8 minute clip with absolutely no backstory whatsoever. Do you folk just have vivid imaginations when responding to people?!

@acex222

Жыл бұрын

He couldn't have driven to a police station, his gang would have fucking ended him.

@ricknaughty1016

Жыл бұрын

What gang them muppets. Me ah slap there lips off their cheeks then their cheeks off their face

@adwoamk8918

11 ай бұрын

​@@acex222exactly, that' the dumbest thing I have ever heard.

How dare she defend her clearly guilty son. The lack of accountability is disgusting!

@VVVBenjaminC

10 ай бұрын

Yep, she should have more respect for the victim also. She didn’t even mention him. No sign of a father figure there either, surprise, surprise…

Joint enterprise is needed. Look what they did to Baroness Newlove husband. Pack of feral wild animals. Poor women and children ridiculed at court by a vile family excusing their degenerate offspring. Shame we can’t jail parents. Stop excusing murder and savage behaviour.

He's guilty, period.

The whole point of joint enterprise is to stop people enabling others and then getting off with it themselves. It's quite simple, if you don't like the idea of serving time for a crime, don't do it. Then you can't face a punishment you may deem unfair. The mother uses autism like some sort of excuse yet she knew he was "vulnerable" and hanging out with a nasty crowd so what did she do to prevent him continuing on the path to where he ended up?

@LauraBidingCitizen

Жыл бұрын

What would you like her to have done?

@Amazonwarrior777

Жыл бұрын

@@LauraBidingCitizen Encourage him not to hang about with criminals? Explain what the repercussions may be? Get him help before he got caught up in the slaughter of another human being? I'm not saying it's easy but she seems to make excuses because of his autism like he's vulnerable but didn't see fit to intervene when his supposed vulnerabilities got him hanging about with people capable of killing other people, no?

@LauraBidingCitizen

Жыл бұрын

@@Amazonwarrior777 Where did she make excuses for his behaviour because of his autism? I didn’t hear her use autism as an excuse? I heard her mention he had mild autism, but that’s as far as it went. You don’t think as a mother she tried desperately to help him after she found out about the first set of robberies? You’re presuming she just let him roam the streets without intervening? Have you heard yourself? He’s a grown man, is he not? He’s capable of making his own decisions in life. He knows right from wrong. Short of locking him in her own home, you can’t prevent him from continuing to make the same mistakes if that’s the road he’s chosen for himself. You can not blame adult children’s behaviours on parents for the rest of their living days. However, he certainly was no murderer & shouldn’t have been sentenced as one, & anyone with more than half a braincell knocking around would agree to the absolute ludicrousness of joint enterprise. He should absolutely be punished for being part of a robbery & do his time, but to be hit with a murder sentence when he wasn’t even aware they were carrying weapons, let alone aware of his friends intentions of harming anyone; they even said on returning back to the vehicle ‘we didn’t know anyone would be home’ - so how was Calum meant to know of their apparent intentions of bringing harm to anyone?

@Amazonwarrior777

Жыл бұрын

I'm really sorry, I don't quite care enough to read all that but appreciate you have a different view and that's ok

@rationalreasoning5612

Жыл бұрын

It's an 8 minute clip. That focuses on the issue of joint enterprise and the unfairness/injustice in that regard. The flaws in the legal principle and how its applied. This was not the place for where mother talks about her response or lack of in relation to his unsavoury peers. Don't be so judgemental and harsh. I've had over 15 years of seeing this stuff working in criminal justice with adults and youths. A lot of people like to take and a hard line law and order stance when they think they have the security of being so far removed that they will never experience the injustice or unfairness within the system.

Not a single mention of the victim by the mother? She strikes me as someone who has raised her son to always blame HIS mistakes on others. 25 years is not long enough.

I speak to my son about oversight more than anything because that's what a lot a young people lack. I remember in my younger days working in a very busy London club and i was friends with a certain VIP...i knew where he lived and months later at work i get a call from someone i knew at work for being a big spender and tipper asking me to give the address of my friend for twenty grand...it was big money for a struggling student back then but it never crossed my mind because i knew that on judgement day nothing would have happened without me..i was at the center of all that would take place but then again it came easy to me because my father second highest ranking officer back home so i grew up understanding how things work than most so my advice to parents just talk to your kids about the importance of oversight and choosing better friends so far im lucky in both.

@CC-hx5fz

11 ай бұрын

Absolutely right. A law abiding person always looks to prevent a crime from happening. The law of association punishes people who are only interested in whatever they can get away with.

@omadjourney

11 ай бұрын

@@CC-hx5fz ❤️

Brilliant. Let’s apply this very same sentencing approach to Sort those who swindled the UK Taxpayers with the Covid-19 fund; starting with the politicians. Michelle Mone et. al

Went robbing equipped with a knife. Tough. Mummy playing the victim. And where is his father? She got railed by the black rod and dumped on society.

Are we meant to feel sorry for him or something? He knew what the plan was, nobody drives 70 miles somewhere without knowing what for.

Who TF does burglary during a lockdown

I don’t think the joint enterprise law should be completely scrapped but each case, such as this, should just be reviewed extremely carefully and with caution. Unfortunately, the law is still needed for the intentionally guilty.

It shouldnt be the same punishment for a driver etc. He's in the wrong but no way nearly as guilty...

@Liza-cl2gb

Жыл бұрын

He facilitated the murder ! If he didn’t drive it wouldn’t have happened, think how you would feel if these cowards turned up with knifes to smash a window. Sick women. She raised this thug.

@HdHd-cg4nz

Жыл бұрын

So if i drive a grapist to your house and he grapes your mum and i drive him back home after I should get a lighter sentence? Oh thanks for that then I suppose.

@tiffa01

Жыл бұрын

Wouldnt say that if they killed one of your family

@user-hp4gl8vx8e

Жыл бұрын

It definitely should be the same for the driver. The driver is just as necessary for the crime to be committed as the others. What if drove someone to kill one of your family members, you think I don’t deserve life when I would of been directly responsible for the death?

@tiffa01

Жыл бұрын

Lock him up for life

Unfortunately, knowing about several autistic people in extended family, they can become vulnerable to people involved in crime or be exploited in some way. They need to be safeguarded as part of social care, this is policy and councils have to follow it up. But with social care being what it is at present its not easy. Its probably quite hard for a mother to stop her son hanging out with dodgy people but that is what would have to happen and she would need support with that.

@Richhfellas

7 ай бұрын

Callum went to my secondary school and I honestly didn’t even know he had autism tbh. And I knew him fairly well. We were good friends especially in year 7. He was a naughty kid but never villainous. Like he wasn’t a bully or a thug . Just a class clown who wouldn’t keep quiet. He definitely wasn’t vulnerable lmao

@lamusica1592

7 ай бұрын

@@Richhfellas thanks, yes the word vulnerable is a tricky one and not easy to sit with. One of the people I mentioned above who is autistic is over 6 foot, broad and can handle himself but because he's too nice and easily led, he got coerced into doing something and got in trouble with the police. And unfortunately, it is a bit of a thing that manipulative people will target those who are neurodivergent or marginalised in some way or other

@Real_Steve_Sharpe

3 ай бұрын

@@lamusica1592 Did you actually read the comment you replied to there? He's not talking about some imaginary made up person who is somehow a big hardman but also runs away crying the second there's any type of confrontation...

What's her point, Her son is a criminal.if he had such bad Ortisum that he didn't know right from wrong, means that he should not have been unsupervised

If say several people for example were involved in the incident , and someone gets killed, and you don’t know who did it. Then joint enterprise should be used. And if say numerous people were involved, but didn’t commit any murder etc then their sentence should be different to the person who committed the murder. I do feel that joint enterprise is needed.

The mum is in complete denial about her son. He's involved in organized crime love... I know he's your son, but you need a wake up call!! What do you think he was going to do if confronted when doing these burgularies? Have a nice chat? Your son is a danger to society and I for one am glad he and his co-conspirators are locked up!

The mother is a pushover .

She didn't make a very good job of bringing him up.

@LauraBidingCitizen

Жыл бұрын

Ignorant & uneducated comment.

@KEMYAH

Жыл бұрын

everyone else but herself 🥱😴

@frexkle3590

Жыл бұрын

I was raised by alcoholics, knew I never wanted to be like them and I'm not at all. So we can't put sole blame on a parent, he made his choices.

@hoodz29

Жыл бұрын

You got kids? 🧐

@Isisbridge

Жыл бұрын

@@hoodz29 Not your business.

I think it is the same in the US. It feels a bit scary to know that I could go to jail for something that somebody else did.

@ianchinsor9248

10 ай бұрын

Don't be a getaway drive for low budget criminal gangs then

Anyone know the name of this program

Without this law they would all blame each other and get away with murder

@gthomasb1988

10 ай бұрын

Exactly, or a group force someone to kill someone else knowing only that one person gets convicted. The joint enterprise principal is an important deterrent.

He knew what they were going there for, that males him as guilty as hid codefendents.

@easy94883

11 ай бұрын

Yup, nobody drives 70 miles somewhere without knowing the reason for it.

SO IT'S YOUR FAULT FOR NOT BRINGING HIM UP BETTER IF YOU DIDN'T LET HIM HANG AROUND WITH HIM HE WOULDN'T BE IN PRISON NOW YOU NEED TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR FAILURES TOO AND NOT BLAME EVERYONE ELSE HOW DID YOU THINK IT WOULD END........

@Real_Steve_Sharpe

3 ай бұрын

Do you want some money for a new caps lock key?

I was just watching the Luton honey trap robbery/murder. The intention was clear to rob and the two girls drugged, held the door open, alerted and escorted the two men to rob the victim and one of the men killed the victim. Their involvement is in not doubt. But 3 of them got less than 10 years and the killer git 30 to life. I am here scratching my head. Calum got more than all of them including the actual murderer. How come ? I dont understand.

@ianchinsor9248

10 ай бұрын

Well you don't see all the evidence in the trial. If he argues complete innocence and not guilty verdict, and the prosecution found clear evidence that he knew exactly what was going on and had a knife himself, then the harshest sentence will be given if found guilty by the jury.

Did he not ask where they were going ?

Yes, indeed, go to prison..

You lay down with dogs you get fleas, you can also get a life sentance. If you knowingly put yourself in a position where a crime is going to take place then you should be held responsible for the entire crime. I getaway driver for bank robbery has been part of that robbery, they are not just guilty of double parking and speeding. Autism is not a excuse, perhaps if Calum got out of the car and called the Police when he found out someone got stabbed rather than drive everyone away maybe things would of turned out better for him.

That’s quite a long drive to take you telling me no one said where they were going 😂🤔hey guys where we even going. You might be that Gullible bish but no…

the toll is paid one way or another

Denial is just a river in Egypt. Pure deluded this lady.

so the getaway driver should no be jailed ??/ IF U DO THE CRIME THEN DO THE TIME

@LauraBidingCitizen

Жыл бұрын

Where in the video did they say he shouldn’t be jailed? Have you got a time stamp? Because I never heard anyone state that.

@effoffu

Жыл бұрын

@@LauraBidingCitizen MMMMM HIS MOTHER DONT THINK HE SHOULD BE JAIL ALONG WITH HIS CO DEES AS IF HES A SPECIAL CASE

@LauraBidingCitizen

Жыл бұрын

@@effoffu His mother stated he should be punished. So, again, timestamp to where either said he shouldn’t be please?

@effoffu

Жыл бұрын

@@LauraBidingCitizen I SEE NOW U THINK HE SHOULD NOT HAVE GOT THE SAME AS THE REST CAUSE HE WAS OUTSIDE MMMM LOW LIFE HOUSE BREAKER WITH A KNIFE ///// DONT DO THE CRIME IF U CANT DO THE TIME SIMMPLEES

@LauraBidingCitizen

Жыл бұрын

@@effoffu You’re .. a bit slow on the upkeep aren’t you hun? He didn’t have a knife. He also didn’t break into anyones home. He was, however, the driver, so yes, he should receive the necessary punishment for his part. Where did you hear that he was wielding a knife & where he was the one who did the burglary? You didn’t watch the video did you? If you did.. blimey, you’re embarrassing yourself.

She obviously raised a nightmare

The minimising by the mum. I get why she does it, but that behaviour and attitude could also be what led him into this situation to begin with.

I wonder how these guys found out about the grow some dirty bastard has told them this is why cannabis should be legal do things like this shouldn’t happern

"Gave Scalez 16, and bruv he wasn't even there"

Might've missed it but this documentary clip doesn't mention anything regarding his criminal history (if one is present) that may have contributed towards it.

@MrWrimark

11 ай бұрын

His mum mentions at the beginning that he has been done for burglary, so stealing of people shows just what a nice guy he is

@gthomasb1988

10 ай бұрын

It also doesn't mention whether he called the police after finding out what had happened or whether he answered any of their questions when interviewed. Juries take a dim view of people who do neither.

He's a wrong un' - best he stays in jail.

1 in 3 people are on the spectrum. Not an excuse for being involved in crime.

That’s a horrible law

so that soesnt make him guilty of murder because the narrative is he was in a gaNG not all people into gangs are preadtory county lines drug barons and involved in extortion and murder when in reality it was prob a music connection they did a load of guys fro same thing cause they made a drill video and portrayed that as a gang lifestyle thing and he got done under joint enterprise and its unjest and unfair and its not the same as inference where they could argue you were in on it cause we got survalaince to say you were in on it but joint enterprise is unfair and because someone knows someone in a gang like everyone does just through life and then is getting pulled in on a murder wrap just cause he knew the guys then thats unfair a lot of these young kids and the gang thing lot of its just a music thing and everyone they know is doing it doeasnt mean their doing it and its not inference and proof of con spiracy by survallaince and proving the burden of proof joint enterprise is didfferent

No fire without smoke

Throw the key away

Deserves everything he gets,

Why would you take a knife to smash a window?

Ultimately he knew that he was off to rob a house, and that one of the people with him a knife. He wasn't sorry enough to refuse to drive the co conspirators home, or to rat them in. 26 years is light, considering he will probably do all of those years. Moral of the story, don't be a serial burglar, and hang around with people how carry knifes.

A knife to break a window get over it your son was involed end of

I don't trust anyone for this reason if your appart of a crew......in future check the crew you hangout with point is the crew are your boyzz.

Right decision 👌

Man those looked look guilty as hell

He is just as bad as the rest off them

@daveknowland3790

Жыл бұрын

When some one gets nick thay dont like it why go out knoing you ar going to hurt some one and when you get nicked you cry like a baby do you bird

He’s defo not autistic, he went to rob a grow. The Mum is a snitch. He prolly snitched. Prolly will come home on appeal. Will live a rough prison life because of this.

I feel for her, but I've got a 22 year old Son, raised him on my own. As mother's we must guide our son's, keep them away from lowlife's. Get your son's out to work, earning money not this.

if the people who came running back to the car had 10 million quid bet he would of have wanted to be involved then, they all went they are all guilty simple as

Typical defence lawyer.. He may well say the other men were the main protagonists, he also knows very well that as the driver of the vehicle which transported the killers to where they carried out their work, he was a pivotal player

Rather than deterring it, this law incentivises murder: Where there are two or more parties, each is legally culpable now, so none of them has any reason to NOT inflect the mortal blow as they will all get done for murder anyway. Seems heavy headed to the point of being illogical. I don’t buy the mum’s act by the way. He was a bad egg.

He did all of it!

He knew what he was driving to them there to do, he was fully involved in thier baby ganster outfit. Deserves all he got, and then some. The point of the joint enterprise law is to deter people even getting involved and assisting in serious crimes under the assumtpion 'Ill get a lighter sentence as im no doing the serious act myself'

@VVVBenjaminC

10 ай бұрын

My wee boy did nothing wrong 😢

Callum was clearly the boss, he sent those other 3 in to do the dirty work while he watch videos on his phone, wow.

So she should go to jail in his place. Then she won’t be there when he goes back to jail for driving along to another crime.

@Ellierua

Жыл бұрын

Rapists only get a few years and they are actual perpetrator.. System is wrong.

I bet they told him to come so he could put the weed in his car and look at the outcome. You need to be playing this to all the kids in high schools

Lack out accountability from start to finish. Take what comes with this type of lifestyle you surround yourself in. Mumzy should of not done the video. The lack of empathy for the victims parents too is mad.

My brother witnessed multiple murders he actually killed my parents

Mmmm, breaking a window required a knife 🤔. A family will of course , always see the best in their children. This is a natural state of being . He was always a good boy , who just happened to be involved in burglaries with his friends before this incident . Well madam , a man died this time round . Your son drove people to the location of the murder . I’m sure he would have been more than willing to share in the spoils of the crime , if it had gone smoothly ,& no one had died . But someone did die . And just as your son was willing to take a share of the cannabis/ cash , he should take his share of the prison time . He’s not a little boy , he’s a criminal , who thinks nothing of robbing other people . Had something happened to one of your family members , how would you have felt about all the people involved in the crime . Had your son been killed in similar Circumstances , would you have demanded everybody stood trial for his death ? Or would you have said , oh he just made a silly mistake ?!

In this case the law has been used adequately and correctly, if you are going to commit a burglary with others then an altercation / murder is an obvious and inherent possibility.. other cases should be looked at but for cases such as these the law needs to be kept

Deserves to get locked up

If he said get a taxi and ask him to wait would the taxi driver have been found guilty

@abi-ci8lh

Ай бұрын

no, because he wouldn't have had the same relationship and rapport as Calumn did with his friends. Calumn would have known what the friends were going to do whereas, the taxi would not have (stranger).

Do the crime do the time

the law of parties is a good thing , imagine a gang of 3 thugs & one has a gun , its not a fair fight is it & what about manipulative puppet master types? if you have a knife or any weapon then you have intent period! my son is autistic but he doesnt hang around with thugs with guns & murderers

Not out till 2046 mad ting

He's a Saint,

You have 2 choices. In the dock with the perp or in the witness box putting the perp away. This should be taught in School. Instead schools encourage the opposite in the way they don’t deal with bullying. Drug dealers have too much time on there hands. They are constantly scheming and looking to rob each others stashes. They live and breath breaking the LAW. A decent silk would have got Callum off on all charges ££££.

Great short film reveals all that is wrong with our so called justice system. As for the ill informed commentators imagine how you’ll feel when a simple thing happens to you. If we ignore this brutality enforced by the State it’s only a matter of time when it becomes so normalised anyone of us will be doing life for not doing anything at all. Joint Enterprise is even being used on people who protest for a better world. Be careful what you wish for because life has a funny way of giving you what you ask for but not as you expected!!!

@tiffa01

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Justice was served

@user-hp4gl8vx8e

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Simple thing happen to you? As in it’s just a normal thing for people to go around stealing cannabis from drug dealers

a man died so all of them should pay for that all of them because they were all involved

They should bring back breaking rocks make them pay for there crime's

That mum is stil sitting they makeing out he never knew what was Gona happen but he was in it sorry is to late some ones dead

She’s had a little mixed raced yout probably with a street bruddah she prolly wanted him to be the same… look what’s happened. He told a story to his mum she’s now snitched to the whole world.

Joint enterprise has been applied incorrectly for over 30 years. Supreme Court confirmed this in a landmark ruling in 2016. The issue is clear that the cases over them 30 years etc should be reviewed against the ruling. I don't believe this has happened which means many people are serving time for murder when they are not murderers. The ruling said the courts were setting the involvement etc to low. I think this is a clear case of the law being applied I correctly.

That woman is away with the fairy's 😂😂😂 he had a knife but that was for breaking into houses 😂😂 The others got out of the car but her son stayed in the car watching stuff on his phone what was he watching my lil pony he was in the car watching and waiting

yeh videos like this make me angry because they totally diregard the actual victim who no longer has any life at all & never will because the actions of those thugs brought about his murder

Aww diddums, enjoy your porridge. The mum seems relieved more than anything.

I'm so bloody sad and annoyed by this, yeah two wrong don't make a right but the criminal justice system is so crooked it's unbelievable

I don't agree with joint enterprise

@davetaylor812

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if he had been told we are going to do a deal with a supplier but want 2 cars as the odds of both being stopped and losing the whole lot are very slim. However unknown to him they were going to steal the weed, would he still be guilty of Joint enterprise and murder.

@anonomous8719

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Do you agree with murder?

@LauraBidingCitizen

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@@anonomous8719 Was he a murderer then? Didn’t see any evidence of that I’m afraid.

@LauraBidingCitizen

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Most sensible folk with more than one braincell rattling around, don’t.

@anonomous8719

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@@LauraBidingCitizen how did they get to the cannabis farm? What did he think was going to happen going out to rob?

No way man like rasclart rackz