My Partially Blind Son Didn’t See The Murder He Was Jailed For | Guilty Bystander | Channel 4

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A Mum argues that her partially sighted teenage son could not have committed the murder he was jailed for.
Garry Newlove’s murder stormed the headlines back in 2007. He was attacked by a group of teenagers outside his home after confronting them for vandalising his van.
Jordan Cunliffe was 15 at the time of the attack, and was jailed for life under the controversial Joint Enterprise law alongside two other teenagers.
Jordan was due to receive transplant surgery to treat Keratoconus, an eye condition that rendered him partially blind, just three weeks after the attack took place. Jordan’s mother, Jan, argues that Jordan could not have been complicit in the attack if he could not see it happen.
Guilty Bystander explores the dramatic stories of people convicted under joint enterprise law. They are in prison for a murder they were not present for, or even knew was going to happen.
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  • @oliviaLOVEShenry
    @oliviaLOVEShenry Жыл бұрын

    This is why Jordan found himself in a gang, kicking a man to death. His mum has enabled him and made excuses for him, all his life!

  • @Ace01234k

    @Ace01234k

    Жыл бұрын

    Mother parents do let’s be honest

  • @abi-ci8lh

    @abi-ci8lh

    Ай бұрын

    how pathetic. RIP to the victim.

  • @pnklady3788
    @pnklady3788 Жыл бұрын

    He wasn't that blind that he could wander around, in the dark with his mates getting drunk and causing trouble and vandalising people's property. He may have an issue with his sight but that does not make him innocent. Mr Newlove's wife and 3 daughters witnessed the attack and saw the damage all 3 (+)of them did. If he can't even take responsibility at this point, bearing in mind this took place 15 years ago, and his mother is still patting him on the head and telling him it's not his fault, then there isn't much hope. A fully grown man is dead because this boy and his mates decided to get drunk, start vandalising people's property and when confronted, decided that grotesque violence was the right response. Then they ran away leavng a man dying in front of his own house. Whether he landed any kind of kick or not, if that was me, I would still feel responsible and would find it difficult to live with the consequences - that I hadn't helped/intervened. Rather, this boy/man, and his mum decide to try and avoid any responsibility for the catastrophic results of their actions and to add insult to injury, use a disability to try and water down his responsibility. I rememver the case, and remember that they were all laughing in court. If he wasn't responsible and was scared to intervene, why the shallow approach in court, and denial of responsibility to this day? Why no remorse? I don't even have to watch to know what his mother will say. If that had been me, my mum would have been embarrassed and mortified that I was involved in such an incident, in any way. Never mind absolutely beyond angry. Yet this boy (now man)'s mother is still telling him it's not his fault. No wonder he ended up the way he did if that was/is her approach to parenting.

  • @YouTubefreak92p

    @YouTubefreak92p

    Жыл бұрын

    She forgets to mention two of her sons were arrested ,and the blood and eyewitness evidence against jordan

  • @jackwinter308

    @jackwinter308

    Жыл бұрын

    This is legit the best written comment I've ever read (bar the one spelling mistake). Couldn't agree more with every word, far too many parents out there blindly protecting their criminal children.

  • @PaganPunk

    @PaganPunk

    Жыл бұрын

    If you don't have Keratoconus you wouldn't understand!!! Ive had it since I was a teenager!! .....Ive had 3 cornea Transplants but am now registered blind!! ......I can walk around in the dark!

  • @patriceaqa288

    @patriceaqa288

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jackwinter308 surely he's out now

  • @jantC1

    @jantC1

    Жыл бұрын

    The change in law very much does make him innocent kzread.info/dash/bejne/goSHq6Z-p7q2eZc.html

  • @Ellierua
    @Ellierua Жыл бұрын

    Sad that she's trying to use a disability.. Everything she's saying is to minimise her sons thuggish behaviour which left an innocent man dead..

  • @imwaytoshort
    @imwaytoshort Жыл бұрын

    A blind lad was out at night so how could he see? I don't think the mum has any compassion for the victim. Her son was there and clearly isn't deaf either. Minimising her sons involvement is ridiculous. The victims family saw what happened didn't they? Also why was her 15 year old drinking on the street? That isn't something every teenager does and reflects her parenting style.

  • @TheTardisDreamer

    @TheTardisDreamer

    9 ай бұрын

    Technically most legally blind people can see to some degree. But if he had enough vision that he could navigate dark streets while drinking without any aid, then he definitely must've had enough vision to see some amount of the attack. He also could hear it. It wouldn't have taken much visually (if anything) to figure out what was going on. Generally someone screaming and shouting in pain right in front of you is pretty obvious.

  • @deboraherskine8503
    @deboraherskine8503 Жыл бұрын

    You are going to be very hard pushed to find anyone that actually believes any of this and offers any sort of sympathy. It sounds like prison is exactly where they should be.

  • @jantC1

    @jantC1

    Жыл бұрын

    Well a leading KC on the film does and that’s just one.

  • @jantC1

    @jantC1

    Жыл бұрын

    Really? Do you believe in the rule of law or not kzread.info/dash/bejne/goSHq6Z-p7q2eZc.html

  • @DaPs166

    @DaPs166

    11 ай бұрын

    The leading KC sounds like a chav

  • @MrMrptd05
    @MrMrptd05 Жыл бұрын

    " when he got sentenced, he looked at me and the Jury " I thought he couldn't see . just a poor excuse from a poor parent. Should have brought him up better love.

  • @illumindonnaughty
    @illumindonnaughty Жыл бұрын

    Jordan might be on a life licence but he's still alive! Would she feel the same way about the law if a group of teenagers kicked him to death?

  • @lauratrigger6552

    @lauratrigger6552

    Жыл бұрын

    Precisely.

  • @Swansong321

    @Swansong321

    Жыл бұрын

    Exactly!the murderers mother just makes excuses for her thug of a son..where was she when he was wandering around the streets at night harassing victims

  • @forrestfey
    @forrestfey Жыл бұрын

    His mother said that he could not hear because he could not see! Well, some parents are blind to the faults of their kids.

  • @SocialExplode
    @SocialExplode Жыл бұрын

    She's really thinking everyone's going to tow the rope with what she's saying.. She's absolutely Full of it and she lacks so much compassion for the victims

  • @YouTubefreak92p

    @YouTubefreak92p

    Жыл бұрын

    He was laughing all through trial,had blood on his jacket,and his group attacked two other innocent lads tht night,(two disabled lads and another two walking,one got punched from each group))#broken britain,feral youths,

  • @lauratrigger6552

    @lauratrigger6552

    Жыл бұрын

    Exactly, the poor family who have to see her wittering on and her silly demonstrations.

  • @swp5411

    @swp5411

    Жыл бұрын

    The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree

  • @paulfrost8895

    @paulfrost8895

    Жыл бұрын

    Just an excuse to cover for him ' disgusting ' my Mum would never have done that ' she'd have seen me bought to justice.

  • @jbellfield
    @jbellfield Жыл бұрын

    She is full of it, no way a kid with eyesight as bad as she is making out can walk off in the DARK by himself eating chips and not trip up over curbs, where is his stick? Dog? If he can't tell where his mum is how does he find his friends in the dark? It's such bs.

  • @celtickid8847

    @celtickid8847

    Жыл бұрын

    💯👏👏👏👏👏

  • @marilynvallance

    @marilynvallance

    Жыл бұрын

    Why would he even be out at night with a group of obviously belligerent youths although often groups do have a member who is physically or intellectually disabled. They use them and abuse them. Joint enterprise needs to be used very carefully.

  • @jantC1

    @jantC1

    Жыл бұрын

    What makes you think a person who is blind can’t walk or eat? And who says he didn’t frequently trip or bump into things.? This is just 20 minutes of an interview that lasted hours. In the full interview his inabilities as well as abilities where covered extensively

  • @marilynvallance

    @marilynvallance

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jantC1 Are you replying to the OP?

  • @YouTubefreak92p

    @YouTubefreak92p

    Жыл бұрын

    If he was blind how could he go to a normal prison,

  • @iflewoverthecukoosnest7016
    @iflewoverthecukoosnest7016 Жыл бұрын

    "His eyesite was that bad he didnt hear what happened" Yeah that makes sense. Jail the hooligans, im not sure what youre hoping to achieve but trying to get the public to feel sorry for a hooligan and his pals who kicked a poor fella to death isnt gonna work.

  • @susanelliott2287

    @susanelliott2287

    Жыл бұрын

    1flew over the cuckoo's nest. I'm afraid I would have to agree with you on this. Why would someone who was trying to keep her relative alive , come up to a complete stranger, allegedly distanced from the victim, fling their arms around them, and ask for information? It makes no sense. Also I agree that the accused may have eight impairments but he is not deaf, it must have been a long wee if he heard nothing of the altercation. I think he probably had some involvement.

  • @susanelliott2287

    @susanelliott2287

    Жыл бұрын

    Should say eye not eight.

  • @swp5411

    @swp5411

    Жыл бұрын

    Literally, no idea what her plan is. She’s lucky he didn’t get executed as he should have

  • @itiswhatitis1159
    @itiswhatitis1159 Жыл бұрын

    She’s absolutely thick! He can’t hear because he can’t see. He heard her when she called him though.

  • @davidjohnston821
    @davidjohnston821 Жыл бұрын

    Parents need to take some responsibility as for saying he was blind and couldn't see so why was he out fishing and drinking what a great parent

  • @harpsailorharp6716gg

    @harpsailorharp6716gg

    4 ай бұрын

    she's a typical chavvy women

  • @joeyparker1823
    @joeyparker1823 Жыл бұрын

    “This isn’t just about Jordan” correct…..it’s also about an innocent man brutally beaten to his death poor bloke

  • @nicjtay22
    @nicjtay22 Жыл бұрын

    Did she not worry her son was not in when police rang her at 01.30

  • @colettesargeant6581
    @colettesargeant6581 Жыл бұрын

    As a visually impaired person myself (40% vision in one eye) the fact that his mum is using a disability to say that her son is innocent is sickening. Also, not every visually impaired person has a guide dog or uses a white cane.

  • @jantC1

    @jantC1

    Жыл бұрын

    He had less than 10% bison in both eyes resulting in double transplant surgery. It’s sickening to think anyone could still assume a blind person can foresee the action of another if they cannot see that person in the first place

  • @colettesargeant6581

    @colettesargeant6581

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jantC1 the fact that you're using a disability that your son has to get him off the hook of a crime he partook in is just crazy! He's out now so don't know why you're complaining as the victims family will never get him back! Also, if your son has such low vision why wasn't he using a long cane?!

  • @wchas5702

    @wchas5702

    Жыл бұрын

    She's dirt Sure

  • @colettesargeant6581

    @colettesargeant6581

    Жыл бұрын

    @@wchas5702 are you talking to me or his mother?

  • @bigmartin
    @bigmartin11 ай бұрын

    Reading the comments here might be a wake up call for Jordan’s stupid mother.. Your son murdered a man and now your son is free, let go and accept that justice was done

  • @johnflynn5044
    @johnflynn5044 Жыл бұрын

    She deluded as are a huge number of these Joint Enterprise parents...Stuck in denial and struggling to come to terms with their failings and the fact they raised monsters.. Felicity Gerry a class act though and her presentation in Jogee v Crown was exceptional work and shes clearly brilliant..

  • @its_me_sam9226
    @its_me_sam9226 Жыл бұрын

    Man can stay away from the group to eat his chips and go for a wee by himself but he can't see. Wake up love will ya

  • @hollimurray8856
    @hollimurray8856 Жыл бұрын

    If he's such a sweet innocent boy with a disability then why didn't he try and stop the beating? He could of saved that man's life but it was dark he couldn't see because he's blind. I'm really sorry I don't believe this for a second it doesn't matter who done they where vandalising people's property, getting drunk and for fun beating a family man to a pulp and it must of been some beating if he died!! We need way more information on this because a post mortem would of taken place etc. Maybe I've been watching too many true crime programmes but I hope this is a full programme because they're so much information missing.

  • @claire664
    @claire664 Жыл бұрын

    The ignorance of this woman unbelievable 'literally' !!!

  • @cartimandua_
    @cartimandua_ Жыл бұрын

    I remember this horror in 2007. It was heartbreaking for the Newlove family. It was a MASSIVE case in England at the time. He'll be out of jail now. But I agree with the jailing of gangs.

  • @jantC1

    @jantC1

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes and if you remember it as well as you claim to, you’ll recall how politically motivated it was and no doubt be very worried how still is! No one truly believes in bad law especially when it’s delivered to a severely disabled child. Or do you? And as the KC says now parasitic Accessorial Liability has been abolished he should be first in line to have his case reviewed in the very least. If you don’t believe a person has the right to justice you need to question your motives on that one.

  • @jantC1

    @jantC1

    Жыл бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/goSHq6Z-p7q2eZc.html

  • @Mike--Oxmall
    @Mike--Oxmall Жыл бұрын

    Lol she actually thought she was going to get sympathy from this.

  • @PatrickWalker09
    @PatrickWalker0911 ай бұрын

    She has absolutely no shame or remorse. Clearly believes her son is the victim in all of this, no genuine regard for the innocent man murdered on that day.

  • @wedsadams
    @wedsadams Жыл бұрын

    What absolute bs. He couldn't see his mum in a brightly light police station, but could stand alone eating in the dark and then go for a pee. Missing out is that 9 were arrested, 5 charged yet only 3 were found guilty.

  • @Youtuber-kz5dq
    @Youtuber-kz5dq Жыл бұрын

    But there was blood found on his shoes? Come on

  • @YouTubefreak92p

    @YouTubefreak92p

    Жыл бұрын

    Was there?😮this documentary is really grasping at straws, then I wonder what him and his mum says about that.

  • @YouTubefreak92p

    @YouTubefreak92p

    Жыл бұрын

    Where did you get this info please I'm intrigued

  • @jalenn757
    @jalenn75710 ай бұрын

    His eye sight wasnt good enough to see his mate and probably himself kill an innocent man but his eye sight was good enough to be out on the piss with his mates, ridiculous

  • @nivzb18
    @nivzb18 Жыл бұрын

    To quote his mother “Looked at me and looked at the jury”

  • @Fermonos1

    @Fermonos1

    Жыл бұрын

    She was talking about the prosecutor. Not her son. If you listen she says her son Jordan cried out like a injured animal and the prosecutor then looked at her and the jury as to say I wasn't expecting him (Jordan) to do that (cry like a wounded animal). She even says 'then the prosecutor looked at me and the looked at the jury'. Just listen back to it.

  • @Chiffawndue

    @Chiffawndue

    Жыл бұрын

    You do know blind people can "look" at things right? If they know the general direction of where someone is, or they hear it, they'll naturally look over. You hear a door open, what do you do? You instinctively look towards where the door is.

  • @markheitz7963
    @markheitz7963 Жыл бұрын

    A mother's love knows no bounds, so completely understand why she's trying her best to help her son although I do think she's misguided

  • @jantC1

    @jantC1

    Жыл бұрын

    That mothers love help gain law change in 2016 when the Supreme Court acknowledged the law took a wrong turn

  • @Restrodsworth

    @Restrodsworth

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jantC1 everyone knows he was involved, they were all at it. It’s obvious he could see, did he have a helper with him at all times when he was out fishing and drinking, did he have a blind stick? What happened, his caters set him off to one side while the rest killed Gary Newlove and he didn’t hear or see anything? Course not. They’ll all get it at some point down the line 100%, nobody can hide in 2022. Karma is a cold bitch and she doesn’t forget. The years he’s in jail still won’t pay for what he did.

  • @YouTubefreak92p

    @YouTubefreak92p

    Жыл бұрын

    Blood on jacket ,Google tells all.

  • @Ruth58969

    @Ruth58969

    Жыл бұрын

    What part of he is blind you didnt get? He's also out now cos he didn't do it.

  • @Restrodsworth

    @Restrodsworth

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Ruth58969 he’s the type of blind where you’re not blind and can still boot a man in the head and he obviously did if he’s only out now. How’s that eye sight? Notice his gobshite mother didn’t say a word about the man he killed? Zero consideration for the victims. If you know him don’t assume he’s safe, people don’t forget.

  • @user-fd4vy4py9w
    @user-fd4vy4py9w Жыл бұрын

    My ex tried to play this card after hurting someone quite badly. They know what they are doing. This is bull.

  • @TomNoles007
    @TomNoles007 Жыл бұрын

    Her wilful ignorance of her son's responsibility in this horrific crime is an insult to the Mr Newlove and his family. No shame.

  • @YouTubefreak92p

    @YouTubefreak92p

    Жыл бұрын

    Do you think she's lieing? I dnt know why to think.strange how he went for a piss when his mates used tht blokes head as a football,good mates running off and leaving him with a dead body.if true,

  • @MattyPee

    @MattyPee

    Жыл бұрын

    Your absolutely clueless.

  • @andyandrewaasutton8851

    @andyandrewaasutton8851

    Жыл бұрын

    My 2 step sons 12 years ago hits a pedophile both attacked him in a tescos they never killed him but charged with wounding with intent due to the peado having a bleed on the brain. They both did there sentences without tags still on licence didn't appeal and my wife never was in denial on there offences she stood by both . In fact the oldest of the boys has adhd is back in jail for not staying in a hostel with pedophiles ..

  • @YouTubefreak92p
    @YouTubefreak92p Жыл бұрын

    These teenagers attacked check this out "two disabled" kids(how ironic ) at a bus stop, and another group of two lads ,they were on a rampage that night, it's all on Google,they had previously been sitting on Mr newloves car ,and swearing at him ,and other residents had there properly damaged in the street,his three daughters told the court what happend,this documentary is an embarrassment,also he was sat laughing in dock and mocking proceedings,and then cried when sentenced,had blood found on his jacket,and was denied parole for drinking and gang activity in prison.hes so blind he went to a normal prison,the chips were borght after the group kicked Mr newlove to death,he was seen as one of nine attackers by eyewitness,sorry love the scummy lil sh*t is bang to rights ,and if he's blind it's called karma.

  • @adedamolaadeleke6228
    @adedamolaadeleke6228 Жыл бұрын

    This so horrific on an innocent family only standing up on themselves

  • @TheHoldenmcgroin
    @TheHoldenmcgroin Жыл бұрын

    Bullshit he was that blind.. Could still see his chips...

  • @RabbitTeaPot
    @RabbitTeaPot Жыл бұрын

    “His eyesight was so bad that he couldn’t see or hear anything” oh aye, I get the argument he may not have been visually aware but he was deaf an all? Bollocks. There’s no way this all went down so quickly & quietly that he heard nowt.

  • @markspark899
    @markspark899 Жыл бұрын

    If you can kick a football you can fix a RAF tycoon fighter jet

  • @adedamolaadeleke1316
    @adedamolaadeleke1316 Жыл бұрын

    15 year old boy attacks a dad.

  • @TrynagetJacked
    @TrynagetJacked Жыл бұрын

    The system is corrupt as fuck imagine that been ya dad a group of little helmets do that and then the sentence gets squashed in others words someone loses a loved one whilst a bunch of rats get to walk free

  • @kevinowensmith1572
    @kevinowensmith1572 Жыл бұрын

    She's just as guilty for me for trying to make an excuse for him. He killed a family mam and ruined life's. Lock him up for life

  • @garethmiskelly4817

    @garethmiskelly4817

    Жыл бұрын

    "Jordan looked at me and then looked at the Jury"...huh?!

  • @peaceLove1988
    @peaceLove1988 Жыл бұрын

    They got off lightly.

  • @MSM4U2POM
    @MSM4U2POM10 ай бұрын

    I wonder what really happened? The court transcript will probably tell a very different story.

  • @stephenm2377
    @stephenm2377 Жыл бұрын

    He should be kept in prison for life along with the others that killed Gary Newlove. No if's, but's or maybe's!!.

  • @misshipster98
    @misshipster98 Жыл бұрын

    His eyesight is so bad he didn’t hear anything??? 😂😂😂😂 babe his hearing will be elevated due to the lack of visual ability, not impaired

  • @garymckenna7771
    @garymckenna7771 Жыл бұрын

    Surely he would have glasses if he sight was that poor ?

  • @jessH090
    @jessH090 Жыл бұрын

    Sad she can’t see what her son did. No one’s feeling sorry for you, he was obviously part of that yob. Don’t try and use his ‘impaired vision’ as an excuse. Obviously can see enough to go round terrorising the neighbourhood.

  • @lauratrigger6552
    @lauratrigger6552 Жыл бұрын

    The woman is deluded and I believe in joint enterprise. At anytime he could have called the Police but chose not to. Therefore, equally responsible and needs to pay for it.

  • @CEO786
    @CEO78615 күн бұрын

    What a miscarriage of justice, hope the blind lads ok

  • @sueryan4479
    @sueryan4479 Жыл бұрын

    The worst thing is they have withdrawn joint enterprise from the statute. It did encourage bystanders to intervene.

  • @adedamolaadeleke6228
    @adedamolaadeleke6228 Жыл бұрын

    Shame a responsible man defending himself and his family from danger even

  • @moffat5914
    @moffat59142 ай бұрын

    "Jordan's eye sight was so bad he didn't hear anything that happened"....

  • @bobbypell7062
    @bobbypell706210 ай бұрын

    The only blind person here is his mum.

  • @mrLH1
    @mrLH1 Жыл бұрын

    Guilty he and his friends killed a man at home

  • @roboguard96
    @roboguard96 Жыл бұрын

    She says the football thing like it goes in her favour. It really doesn't She's either so full of grief she misses the point is is being disengenous. It's not a moral argument it's a practical one. I also sensing some very strong fatherless energy from this too. Gets the noggin joggin 🤔

  • @PaganPunk
    @PaganPunk Жыл бұрын

    I have Keratoconus & have since I was a Teenager...I have had 3 cornea Transplants (all rejected) I amniw registered blind.....But I can't Agree with this Mother!! Her Son Would have seen this happen....I had/have it So bad but I can see Movement and Some colour!! I would definitely see a man being kicked to death!!! Not like a fully sighted person would see it, but i would know what was going on..... His Mother is Wrong In what she's says!!

  • @dottieland7061
    @dottieland706110 ай бұрын

    As a parent of a deaf child, always keep tabs on we’re they are and who they are with. If I don’t like the group I will tell my son/daughter so. The mother can protest the child’s innocence all she wants, but was she actually there? Was she the child’s eyes? Like I’m my sons ears? No I’m not. Jordan will only know truth about what happened that night and the mother wasn’t even sympathetic towards the gentleman who was murdered.

  • @pendlelancashire
    @pendlelancashire Жыл бұрын

    *All mothers declare their vagabonds, angelic personified. Does anyone feel sorry for the Van Victim? The man who died isn't even being discussed. Sad how victims are forgotten and criminals are sympathised to .*

  • @dememes9604

    @dememes9604

    Жыл бұрын

    Why is this written in bold 😂

  • @paulfrost8895

    @paulfrost8895

    Жыл бұрын

    Corrupt legal system.

  • @dazens1

    @dazens1

    Ай бұрын

    @@dememes9604 gap in the market

  • @juliewilliamson6294
    @juliewilliamson62946 ай бұрын

    He was laughing and joking in court. She maybe would get more sympathy had she known where her blind son was at night time. Allowing him to hang around with someone who had just been let out on bail for an attack is hardly responsible parenting. Eyewitness accounts saw him there, he had blood from the daughter on him. If he was so disabled why was he left on his own for long periods of time?

  • @davegill8634
    @davegill8634 Жыл бұрын

    He Sees What He Wants To see ?

  • @justartandmusic9553
    @justartandmusic9553 Жыл бұрын

    I realise that it’s a really complex legal issue and that there will be loads of exceptions to this law but if I’m honest none of these examples make me disagree with the law

  • @adedamolaadeleke6228
    @adedamolaadeleke6228 Жыл бұрын

    A responsible man taken so soon

  • @ellejones2342
    @ellejones2342 Жыл бұрын

    They all used to live near me in Warrington, they were all wrongens and all deserved there sentences it was only a matter of time before something bad was going to happen around that area, how can he be blind yet be out at night come on some ones dad and husband died, all deserved longer than what they got doesn't matter about there ages.

  • @hannahxx17
    @hannahxx1711 ай бұрын

    If he could see well enough to be allowed out independently without any assistance required he sure as hell would have seen enough to be able to be involved. No one believes this kid stood there dumb as a door nail knowing nothing doing nothing and completely helpless. She would have done better to claim he was bullied and threatened into taking part because they picked on him for his blindness. At least then she may have fooled a couple of people. I cant decide if she knows the truth and is making excuses, or if she genuinely believes everything her kid has told her because she believes hes an angel. Most reasonable parents would say 'he made a stupid choice spending time with older boys, drinking, and being influenced by the wrong people which put him somewhere he shouldn't have been', but instead she makes it seem like everything that happened is 100% normal and a day to day activity for all 15 year olds. Honestly locked up is exactly where he should be. One day he'd end up as an abuser with the excuse 'boys will be boys'.

  • @elliep71
    @elliep71 Жыл бұрын

    I can’t find the programme. Does anyone have a link?

  • @meganmurphy6852
    @meganmurphy6852 Жыл бұрын

    the mum says her son is blind so couldnt see or hear what was happening?? hmm

  • @johnm725
    @johnm7259 ай бұрын

    On the whole, I find UK sentencing too lenient so I have little sympathy for those complicit in a crime who do not stay on scene to help the victim and/or call the police.

  • @johnm725

    @johnm725

    9 ай бұрын

    Also, wait, difficult on a life license? I've gone 36years without any involvement without police - he struggles?

  • @fern1416
    @fern1416 Жыл бұрын

    Does she think visualy impaired people can't kill? Also, there is too much missing information from this

  • @vickythefist7062
    @vickythefist70622 ай бұрын

    Why is he smirking in his police photo like he thinks it's funny that a man has been beaten to death

  • @gembowles3872
    @gembowles3872 Жыл бұрын

    What everyone on this video is failing to mention is that this gang terrorised the Newloves neighbourhood endlessly. They then, with no care for the consequences kicked and stomped on an innocent man, to the point where he had bruises of shoe prints on his body. This was a sickening attack and even if Jordan didn’t participate, he would have heard the commotion. He is as guilty as all the others. Rip Gary.

  • @jantC1

    @jantC1

    Жыл бұрын

    LIES

  • @jantC1

    @jantC1

    Жыл бұрын

    He died due to a single injury to the neck. There was no shoe print to the head. Check the pathology report it will show a very different picture to the Daily Mail lies and myths you appear to have bought into. I’ll email it to you if you’re truly interested in truth and justice. However if you’re only interested supporting inequality, injustice and lies I won’t bother.

  • @dannyportillo4978
    @dannyportillo497810 ай бұрын

    Sorry but this wasn’t an isolated incident. This group had a history of violence and this young man’s history was littered with violent crimes and intimidation

  • @ricknaughty1016
    @ricknaughty1016 Жыл бұрын

    "Kids eyesight is so bad he didn't see or hear anything" I didn't know eyes made u hear I would stand by this law like the guy said if it wasn't the case people would just get away with murder left right and centre. If the two said noone else was involved it was just us then that would be different and I'm sure if it was just the two they wouldn't bring an innocent blind kid down with them I'm sure there would have been mention the blind kid wasn't involved but there wasn't noone would bring their pal down if he was innocent.

  • @YouTubefreak92p

    @YouTubefreak92p

    Жыл бұрын

    He also went to the toilet when the attack happend,doesn't want to speak on camera and someone on here said he had blood on his shoes🤣🤣🤣 Monty python couldnt write this😂😂😂😂🤣🤣😜

  • @nomnomnommy2955

    @nomnomnommy2955

    Жыл бұрын

    You can get context clues from your vision to make sense of what the sounds are, I.e. what’s causing them.

  • @realjay247
    @realjay247Ай бұрын

    She showed no remorse for Mr Newlove, just excuses for her son who kicked a man to death. Such an example of a bad parent raising a bad kid! Jordan didn’t get a long enough sentence, should have been life as should the others.

  • @pieguy1881
    @pieguy1881 Жыл бұрын

    Is this on All4? I can't find it

  • @Gugulethuuu
    @Gugulethuuu Жыл бұрын

    I'm so sorry to her but I believe her son is also just as guilty. You are the company you keep!

  • @johnjoyce9075
    @johnjoyce9075 Жыл бұрын

    Rip I hope. He get a good bed in heaven 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

  • @melanie1784
    @melanie1784 Жыл бұрын

    Did this gang of kids do things similar but obviously not as severe before this incident?

  • @irrationalgeographic9953
    @irrationalgeographic9953 Жыл бұрын

    If I had a partially blind 15 year old I wouldnt a call from the Police at 1:30am be the first I know where they are, if he can hang with mates at the park, get himself some chips and wander the street with other thugs all unaided his eyesight cant be all that bad. If there was just a hint of parenting then he would of not been there to get nicked.

  • @sammycairns895
    @sammycairns895 Жыл бұрын

    Never their fault always someone else - did not want his chips taken then conveniently needed a pee then seen nor heard nowt -aye right - full of pee more like -

  • @misc1453
    @misc1453 Жыл бұрын

    I wonder- this would be a good idea for a mystery story- or even a thriller. If a person was a witness- a very close witness to a crime or was somehow nearby- and they were deaf and blind whether they could be held accountable or not.

  • @bethankrzowski4553
    @bethankrzowski4553 Жыл бұрын

    Regardless of the disability, rehabilitation or treatment is in most cases way more useful than letting potentially violent prisoners out of jail aged 30 something who have been psychologically damaged even further by the institution. What does it serve society or anyone if we condemn everyone who commits a crime, or is at the scene of a crime like this. It is horrific what happened to that man, it is tragic and it cannot be taken backever, still I don't believe that making it worse does the family or the victims memory and justice. Should someone be held in full responsibility for something their friends did? Research on the bystander effect shows this, many people have been known to not intervene to help vulnerable people who were murdered across the street from them by people they knew it's a well supported phenomenon that describes how around 60% of people witnessing a crime in a group dont help. So 60% of you guys judging are included in that. It is also possible and more more than likely for some individuals that they may freeze when part of a group that is witnessing a crime or standing by. Anxiety levels and adrenaline responses of fight or flight may also cause a person to freeze; a secondary trauma response or survival mode to witnessing the violence or traumatic event, a shut down. Research has also shown that children who witness parents or adults that attack siblings but don't target them, can be equally psychologically traumatised by the experience. Wherever the responsibility luys, surely it is better to rehabilitate than to condemn people (especially children), to an even longer life of crime, like it or not that's what the legal system does. That's what the prison environment does in most cases exacerbating violent tendencies and antisocial behaviour and then they let them out to do it all over again. The only good that can come from this is rehabilitation for those who can be helped. Otherwise folks, you're paying taxes to make the situation potentially worse because the likelihood they'll get a job on release after cases like this is minimal and so turning to crime again is the easiest option all whilst you're paying their benefits. (Just something to think about).

  • @jackphilips9526

    @jackphilips9526

    Жыл бұрын

    But the point is he was not a bystander. He may have been fully involved and may have dealt the killer blow. The prison system may not be the best place for an offender's rehabilitation but we imprison people for public safety. I would say early release of someone who kicked someone to death is an insult to the family of the victim

  • @Liza-cl2gb

    @Liza-cl2gb

    Жыл бұрын

    Not true witness statements and cctv contradict everything his mother is say , love to the newloves and the amazing Mother Helen who protected her daughters and all other victims in England form suffering such injustices at court!

  • @bethankrzowski4553

    @bethankrzowski4553

    Жыл бұрын

    @Liza Im6still in favour of rehabilitation rather town life sentances for young offenders, I'm sorry if that hiryd anyone's feelings but economically and socially it works put better if there is a chance that person won't offend again woth the right help. I day this from someone who has been a victim in the past of sexual physically and mental abuse, personally I'd rather see the person who hurt me learn and become someone better however I don't know how I'd feel for a long time after if my child died or husband, still the law is there to be a bon bias intervention when we cannot act ourselves because we are in so much pain. So ultimately I would hope that a person could be given a second chance.

  • @YouTubefreak92p

    @YouTubefreak92p

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Liza-cl2gb so true,what does she think he was wrongly identified,why him out of nine??,wonder why he didn't wanna be on camera ,cause he's not clever enough to lie probably.this documentary leaves so many unanswered questions,is there a full length one

  • @Camberwell86
    @Camberwell864 ай бұрын

    That "he was eating his chips away from the rest of the group as he thought they might take them off him when it happened" bullshit is right up there with "the dog ate my homework" 😐

  • @adedamolaadeleke1316
    @adedamolaadeleke1316 Жыл бұрын

    As well as others teenage troublemakers at that day.

  • @guy4469
    @guy4469 Жыл бұрын

    1,30 am blind sons out pissed get real , And mrs new love and the daughters fantastic family beautiful family. That blind kid could hear the stamping and kicking and laughing as they killed him outside his own house .

  • @adedamolaadeleke6228
    @adedamolaadeleke6228 Жыл бұрын

    They were honestly just responsible young girls his children protecting trying to protect their lives.

  • @YouTubefreak92p
    @YouTubefreak92p Жыл бұрын

    Google shows everything, her son was laughing and joking, with his killer friends in the dock from beginning to end, apparently,this documentary doesn't say that.and says he cried like a baby when sentenced.hevwas also denied parole for his conduct in prison,gang activity and alcohol consumption ,he wouldn't have gone to a prison if blind in first place ,surly!

  • @huwzebediahthomas9193
    @huwzebediahthomas9193 Жыл бұрын

    😳 What Channel 4???

  • @MrStraightkruddy
    @MrStraightkruddy6 ай бұрын

    Just walk forward..he heard my voice? But he outside drinking alcohol and buying chips 😭 lock him up for fake blindness as well

  • @w.w.heisenberg8044
    @w.w.heisenberg80447 ай бұрын

    I'm sure Ted Bundy's mum said he's a good boy in complete denial.

  • @adedamolaadeleke6228
    @adedamolaadeleke6228 Жыл бұрын

    Garry newlove forever resting in safe hand always

  • @meganmai6531
    @meganmai6531 Жыл бұрын

    My partner himself has been found guilty of murder because of joint enterprise even though the prosecution has agreed he didn't inflict any of these injuries. Before this happened I was like alot of people niave that there are so many people in prison doing sentences of life simply by being associated with someone who did do the crime. All my boyfriend did was get out of the car at the wrong time and that's him in prison for life. Someone who didn't get out of the car was found innocent, simple as that. Whilst every case is slightly different its really sad to see that people think leaving negative comments, if YOUR family member was in this situation would you appreciate it? No1 should die at the hands of anyone else, however no1 should be held accountable for someone else's decision.

  • @Ace01234k

    @Ace01234k

    Жыл бұрын

    Well that’s clearly not true

  • @fayemadgwick8240
    @fayemadgwick82402 ай бұрын

    Jordan's mom is a hypocrite. She and her son get a second chsnce at life together, a privilege her son took away from Garry and his family.

  • @TLRMAG1K
    @TLRMAG1K10 ай бұрын

    Should have been sent down for longer!

  • @adedamolaadeleke1316
    @adedamolaadeleke1316 Жыл бұрын

    The bus took 16 minutes today after i went to finsbury park

  • @pdj6286
    @pdj628610 ай бұрын

    The mum is delusional

  • @kamransafdarkashmiri.123
    @kamransafdarkashmiri.12310 ай бұрын

    To be clear jordan did not commit the crime he was simply their when it happend and due to his eyesight could not of known the full extent of what happened, well thats the argument at least

  • @rw6391
    @rw639111 ай бұрын

    A wounded animal,what about the poor man he helped kick to death.

  • @biffalump
    @biffalump Жыл бұрын

    What’s this program called😊

  • @owmykidneysful

    @owmykidneysful

    Жыл бұрын

    Guilty Bystander, made by channel four just for youtube

  • @biffalump

    @biffalump

    Жыл бұрын

    @@owmykidneysful thanks for the info i was driving myself nuts trying to find a full program 🤣👍

  • @Manic3DF
    @Manic3DF Жыл бұрын

    If you actually have a look at keratoconus vision on google, it's quite clear they can actually see.

  • @adedamolaadeleke1316
    @adedamolaadeleke1316 Жыл бұрын

    I seriously need to be eating more better

  • @hannahs7602
    @hannahs76025 ай бұрын

    Pathetic. Accept what your son did and move on with your life

  • @dingledingle7951
    @dingledingle795110 ай бұрын

    Jordons eye condition is called eye -am-awee- fannie

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