Annette's voice is gorgeous! Wow! Hearing her mother reading her letter at the end, really just tore me up inside. The strength she had to pursue justice & find Felix. She kept all of her pain & suffering inside, to fight for her daughter & the other women, before she'd allow herself to grieve. My heart goes out to her! ❤

@krisP16

9 ай бұрын

Such a beautiful voice! I didn't realize that wasn't a professional singer!

@AlissaSss23

9 ай бұрын

My heart goes to Mary and Anette. Mary was such a kind, pure soul ❤ She did her best to make her daughter happy and keep her safe

@AlissaSss23

9 ай бұрын

You can tell all these unfortunate girls were beautiful, innocent souls. My heart goes to thrm and their families.❤ I hope he got what he deserved. Mary Rose is a true hero ❤

@maribellaleonardis8610

9 ай бұрын

How do you know it’s her singing at the end?

@katemangos1705

9 ай бұрын

This is the first true crime video that actually made me cry. I feel terrible that such devilish creatures like Felix prey on the most vulnerable, naive, pure and nice girls. Signs of domestic abuse have to be taught st school!

OK, how can a coroner get away with saying that a victim who was beaten, gagged and drowned died accidentally? Why didn’t anyone go after that coroner???? It’s obviously a murder. 🤬

@mikoshmitty

9 ай бұрын

THIS

@animerlon

9 ай бұрын

That's the $64,000 question. Mind you, with inflation, it's worth a hell of a lot more now. 😆

@vv8134

9 ай бұрын

Corruption . Even the fact when she finally got someone interested in the case he was fired due to cut backs . Mmm it’s all fishy it’s like he had free reign with the authorities. Did he have something on someone that protected him til so many years passed it didn’t matter ? It’s just weird

@Vince-lq3ve

9 ай бұрын

I thought exactly the same thing but I am guessing they explained the blow to head as having maybe hit the side of the boat and the tangled scarf just a result of her struggling in the water. Still extremely frustrating as a conviction at that point would have saved lives and put that monster away so much sooner.

@Lola-AreaCode212

9 ай бұрын

@@Vince-lq3ve but she was gagged with the scarf. That can't happen accidentally. The coroner was a major derp.

The strength of a mother knows no bounds.

@keyonnareid9287

9 ай бұрын

SHE SHOULD HAVE FOUND THAT STRENGTH TO PUT HER DAUGHTER UNDER CONTROL .

@saddletramp5000

9 ай бұрын

​@keyonnareid9287 When Felix gained control of her Mary had no chance. Have you dealt with a headstrong, intelligent, teenage girl who thought she was in love? I was a teenage girl just like her. I even graduated early like she did. And like her I was in a very abusive relationship at a young age. Nothing my parents did could convince me that they knew best. And I had both my mother and father there to try to control my situation. My dad even going so far as putting bars on my window to keep me from sneaking out of the home. Where my story differed was my boyfriend was just a year older than I was so he didn't have the means to take me far away from my family to isolate me. Or he certainly would have.

@cynthiacordell4639

9 ай бұрын

​@@saddletramp5000agree with you completely. Our minds are deeply complex. No two people are alike and nobody has the ability to predict how each individual will respond to a given situation. We make decisions that are unique to us. Some decisions lead to a positive outcome and some do not.

@brownbreadburnt

9 ай бұрын

@@saddletramp5000 the mum literally done what she was told by some random man in her house. She clearly doesn’t have any strength at all or she would’ve stood up for herself and not left her house behind and moved elsewhere when he told her to?💀

@stevewithan8281

9 ай бұрын

@@saddletramp5000 young girls can be manipulated rather easy when there’s no knowledge of the woman’s true worth that needs to be taught before the dating age is reached and it’s usually the father that has to teach the daughter that.

It sickens me that the authorities can even refuse to look into obviously criminal activity and bad circumstances. This mother was so strong

@K414nn4

6 ай бұрын

It’s because it’s none of their family members.

@goldenhourss

5 ай бұрын

@@K414nn4they are horrible human beings

@l_z1478

3 ай бұрын

I think it's weird you know , how every cases regarding this Felix guy being shove aside and even the team got disbanned, fishy

@shaksheedigitalmarketing

2 ай бұрын

The inaction of the authorities at right time had cost the lives of many innocent girls. They seemed to have gotten bribed or threatened. They didn't fulfill their duties.

@bochapman1058

11 күн бұрын

Laws generally protect the innocent but those don’t make fun stories. So we hear these where people manipulate the law and it seems like it’s the norm.

She accomplished what paid law enforcement professionals could not. She wasn't compensated financially, but only received a secondary consultation. So very sad.

@liliveliz4153

7 ай бұрын

She didn't do it for the money, there's no money that could compensate for the lives lost

@precioustimeglorydays

3 ай бұрын

@@liliveliz4153 yes, but she should at least have some of her burdens eased, especially after all she invested and gave up in order to follow up on the case.

@lbo6050

10 күн бұрын

​@@liliveliz4153agreed but she had to of lost a lot of wages and time with all of her efforts & focus on that

How crazy is it that this case was turned down by so many enforcement agencies… and a reporter had to write a book before it was acknowledged! My heart goes out to the families…

@sallgoodman2323

9 ай бұрын

Truly. I don't get it.

@sadittyb3333

9 ай бұрын

They just don’t care sadly.

@crypton_8l87

9 ай бұрын

It is expensive... how many criminals can the state go after? they always tell you that it's because of a lack of funds but you never hear those words.

@sugaronmychurro

9 ай бұрын

In those days prosecution wanted physical evidence, like a second person witnessed the crimes. DNA evidence was still considered sorcery by the Billy Graham's judges and prosecution back then. Now if Vail was not white,then he'd be imprisoned a long time ago.

@IndigoCave28

9 ай бұрын

So sad and traumatizing for these families. I’m glad they won in getting horrible Felix put away. Some how it doesn’t feel like quite enough to me. Knowing he will be paying for his crimes in his next life

What kind of a mentally disabled coroner would call that a drowning? Found choked to death, but drowned? Disgusting.

@ampa4989

9 ай бұрын

She obviously did not choke to death but had water in her lungs. The coroner can consider only the physical evidence, not her husband's character or the suspicious circumstances of the breakdown of their marriage. Maybe accidental drowning was a reasonable scientific/medical conclusion.

@EllaMBV

9 ай бұрын

​@@ampa4989her body was found gagged with a scarf and with a big wound to the back of her head. It was very obvious that this woman did NOT just DROWN. Sure, there could there water in her lungs if she was thrown in the water before she died, but it was definitely not accidental

@sallgoodman2323

9 ай бұрын

​@@EllaMBVyeah. She was assaulted, brutalized and then drowned.

@JennyferPepin

9 ай бұрын

He was probably corrupted.

@donnahilton471

9 ай бұрын

They can be very lazy and incompetent.

Mary Rose is an absolute SUPER HERO!! A mother knows NO limits when it comes to her child/children. I'm sure when she was entering that window at the trailer home she wasn't feeling any fear; only hope in finding answers. My God she is AMAZING!! I praise her through & through.

@MG-uz5mr

4 ай бұрын

She just walked out of the house when the psycho asked her ????

@JohnBrown-vn2qw

2 ай бұрын

super hero my eye she allowed her to hook up with him

@N..P..

Ай бұрын

This mother let her daughter down in about every single possible way. Hero? No... she did the absolute MINIMUM she owed her daughter after letting all that happen.

@TheLogicLives

Ай бұрын

​@@N..P..Exactly!! Couldn't find work in Houston. I'm sure there was work. She probably just didn't want to clean toilets.

@N..P..

Ай бұрын

@TheLogicLives Tbh the work things fine. It's the fact she was clueless to her underage daughter being pursued by a man older than she was. She completely ignored her daughter and didn't inquire about her or left her with someone completely irresponsible when she was away for work (probably both). Then she said she didn't know if he was a bad guy when her 16 year old daughter wanted to marry him... a 40 year old. That's not even mentioning her willingly walking out on her daughter AGAIN after she got her home and safe finally. If she put even a hundredth of the effort into protecting her as she did trying to find her, she'd still be alive. It's sad, honestly.

It's absolutely heartbreaking how many people lost their lives and their murderers got away with it. Losing a child would be the absolute worst but this goes to show how much we love our children.

@Corrie-_-

9 ай бұрын

RIP Annette and Sharon ❤😢

@amberskies4187

7 ай бұрын

the sweetest, purest people get killed ): it makes me so so sad

@Corrie-_-

7 ай бұрын

@@amberskies4187 absolutely. It's not right nor fair.

I am 100% sure Ike Abshire (unknowingly) held on to life untill he helped the police with this case, and you can't convince me otherwise! 90 years old, still a clear mind, died 3 months after, and he was the key to the succes... He stayed on this earth long enough to help, only then did his body give up on him, I'm sure of it!

@AuntyBec

9 ай бұрын

That's exactly what I thought aswell.

@randal_gibbons

9 ай бұрын

His body didn't give up on him, it let him go.

@missyflutter5562

9 ай бұрын

I thought so too hooray for Ike! It was his input that was so key I hope he knew what a wonderful man he was.

@Holly707

9 ай бұрын

May Ike rest in peace 🙏 God kept him on this Earth until Ike's job was done. That's how it goes.

@lindseytaylor3793

9 ай бұрын

@@randal_gibbonsthis is such a more peaceful and comforting way to put it. i like that.

I'm sorry, I didn't graduate from coroner school, but if someone was fished out of the river still wearing a BLINDFOLD with a huge wound in the back of her head, "accidental drowning" would not be my best guess of how they died.

@astrialindah2773

9 ай бұрын

In my opinion that coroner should be sued!

@Bluegirlz

9 ай бұрын

Unfortunately in some areas they can be random appointed people who are not trained… it’s sad

@stephaniezhang6015

9 ай бұрын

The coroner was just 'lazy' and wanted to 'be relaxed' 😠

@AnimaShankar-vm7pi

9 ай бұрын

@@stephaniezhang6015maybe he was bribed.

@catcoffee7958

9 ай бұрын

He probably hated women

Who is the “friend” who Annette stayed with so she could graduate high school, and why on earth was Annette allowed to go on a road trip with a 40-something year old man without even consulting her mother about it?! Someone really dropped the ball there. I feel sorry for Mary for trusting such a dunce with her daughter.

@adamtash2891

7 ай бұрын

good lokking handsome man....helped him get away with it....and attract women, too.....our society highly values looks...good looking people get away with poor behavior much easier than the rest of the population....its a vicious cycle

@rockersr.g.2410

6 ай бұрын

@@adamtash2891your personal feelings are interfering with your view of reality, it was actually very common for many grown men to go after teenage girls, they probably thought it was normal for a teen to date someone their parents didn’t like

@rockersr.g.2410

6 ай бұрын

@@adamtash2891anyone can get away with doing the wrong thing, or be praised for the right thing, it has nothing to do with looks for the most part, it’s how they present themselves, and how women were normally dismissed

@adamtash2891

6 ай бұрын

@@rockersr.g.2410 ok - looks help people connect with the opposite sex. not sure what you're getting at...i wasnt passing judgement

@rockersr.g.2410

6 ай бұрын

@@adamtash2891 you mentioned 4 times about this superficiality and looks can only go so far, good looks can look like anything, even trees can be beautiful so it’s not like you have to look like a conventional model, it’s how you carry yourself and how others look at you based on your behavior ironically you might decide to believe someone who’s not your idea of good looking instead of who’s actually telling the truth

This brought me to tears. I have a daughter similar to Annette in a bad relationship. I worry for her every day of my life.

@robynmarler1951

8 ай бұрын

🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏xxx

@nathandaniels379

17 күн бұрын

What kind of a bad relationship?

@SevenDeadlyChins7

9 күн бұрын

@melodygreen5029 is your daughter away from that now 8months later?

I feel sorry for the son who had to grow up in such a horrible environment. Glad to see that he was able to have his own family after he got away and grew up

@user-cx1gc8pd4i

8 ай бұрын

... and then he died of cancer. I wonder if that was due to all the trauma he had to endure.

@moonlightemily8110

8 ай бұрын

@@user-cx1gc8pd4icancer can't be caused by trauma what?

@truerosie

8 ай бұрын

@@moonlightemily8110 I think if you researched it you'd find it can indeed be caused by trauma. Stress is the common denominator of most disease.

@Carolinejoyamico

8 ай бұрын

@@truerosietrue story.

@EmmaThw

8 ай бұрын

@@truerosie cancer can't be caused by stress and trauma, however stress and trauma are catalysts.

Mary Rose still considering her daughter to get justice without the conviction of Annette’s death specifically is so rare. That’s a beautiful strength so few have.

@kaylalovespups3441

9 ай бұрын

So true. I hope she's able to forgive herself and see Annette again one day

@MarianGuffey

8 ай бұрын

@@kaylalovespups3441 oo99

Ike Anshire's name needs to be remembered as a hero. A true hero! He kept all that information and was determined to bring it to light.

A father's love for a child is SO IMPORTANT. No matter how old we are we still need communication, answers, apologies and love

@cynthiaconnors183

8 ай бұрын

You are so right. Even after a very bad relationship and dangerous separation from my children's father, I pushed through the courts to get him help. It was years of hard work for both him and myself, we both grew and eventually formed a good relationship so my children could then have a strong relationship with their father. If one can do it, it's so worth the effort for the children.

@terrell6439

Ай бұрын

I know

Climbing through broken glass in a window way up off the ground at 64, wow! The strength and fearlessness of a mother protecting her children, never ceases to amaze me.

@batcactus6046

9 ай бұрын

Pretty sure that is just a random photo. The reporter said the window was missing. She is a badass, tho.

@jackmeeks2294

9 ай бұрын

​@@batcactus6046Wherever this footage came from, they made a scene for scene recreation of the event down to her tossing the machetes out. Did you think all of that was just the most accurate random b roll of all time lmao? I'm pretty sure the window was never missing. She broke it to get in. He said that to cover, and the recreation made it to accuracy. That's the most plausible reason, I'm so sure he just had a missing window in a trailer park.

@calij586

9 ай бұрын

Yeah I completely understand Mary Rose! I'd do the same thing. What is life worth living when those innocent children you brought into this world go missing? Will go to the ends of the earth trying to find my babies

@DogeDogeriffic

9 ай бұрын

@@grandinquisitor3933lmao the bed she made when she was 14? Come on now, what type of mental gymnastics would make you blame the young victim, instead of blaming the clear murderer, pedophile and manipulator who went up to a 14 year old girl at the old age of 40 and continued to prey on her while her mother was gone? Make it make sense plz

@DogeDogeriffic

9 ай бұрын

@@grandinquisitor3933 not every human being is an perfect emotionless machine. Everyone makes mistakes. That’s just what makes us human, but no one deserves to go through what any of the victims went through for that. You have to think about what they were going through at the time too, life was hard on them which caused them to make some bad decisions but that doesn’t warrant being abused and murdered. In the Mother’s case, it shouldn’t have ended with her daughter losing her life. It’s not anyone else’s fault but the murderer (and no, his actions don’t count as mistakes). Simple as that.

The amount of incompetence by authorities during his murder "career" is breathtaking.

@beverlybalius9303

9 ай бұрын

I am astounded by the incompetence of the Mother to begin with and then giving the girl the house.. That was crazy and that was giving her daughter the death sentence for sure.

@HowManyHintsDoYouNeed

9 ай бұрын

Why she didn't call the cops when he literally broke into her house.... I'll never understand.

@ampa4989

9 ай бұрын

​@@beverlybalius9303 Probably, she feared he'd take her away if she didn't relent and her whereabouts would become unknown as before. And I think it made sense to let her finish the last semester of high school before taking her to a different state. And, as a widow, she probably did not have the luxury of not starting her job right away. I don't know why her friend didn't let her know that the weirdo was dating her daughter or that he was taking her on a road trip. I suspect the mother knew he was dating her. I can't imagine she believed his intentions were fatherly or paternal. Even if she did, I wouldn't allow a near stranger older than I am to visit my minor daughter with or without my presence. And to address a point by another commenter, the police would have done nothing about his being in the house if her daughter who also owned the house did not object to his being there, which she obviously did not. Sometimes bad things happen and there's little we can do.

@ninnywaggon3470

9 ай бұрын

@@ampa4989i dont think her teenage child owned the house.

@ampa4989

9 ай бұрын

@@ninnywaggon3470 Her mother states in the video that she made her daughter a co-owner when she bought the property and that she relinquished her HALF of the property to her at her husband's behest. The daughter was also in her twenties by the time he came to the house where she's lived with her mother.

This woman, this MOTHER, is an absolute LEGEND. It makes it that much sadder that she didn’t get to keep being a mother to her daughter

You can hear the pain in that letter. Like she felt too guilty to cry all those years because she felt responsible. Until she found justice she couldn’t even let herself grieve. Imagine that. She was punishing herself, for having been punished by the loss of her daughter. because of the duty she felt to protect her baby. 😢

As a parent, you watch your kids make bad decisions, engage in risky behavior, choose horrible, dangerous friends - and there's not a damn thing you can do about it. If you even just talk about it too much they can walk away from you, never to be seen again. It is very hard to bear.

@CrissyBellon

9 ай бұрын

Yes, that's what bothers me the most, and is most disturbing. Especially nowadays. My daughter is 12 and I think/worry about these things. Maybe too much. I can't help it, there is just so much wolf disguised as sheep out there.

@cecilianekaro6303

9 ай бұрын

My daughter is 15 and she's giving me sleepless nights with all this bad friends shs keepin😢

@chocha4438

9 ай бұрын

I’m glad somebody said it because people love to blame parents for their children’s bad decisions. People seem to forget that people are individuals, separate from their parents, and capable of making their own decisions.

@CrissyBellon

9 ай бұрын

@grandinquisitor3933 I think that is every rebellious kid's dream, to be told to go live with their friends!

@debbzev

9 ай бұрын

When we turn into a teen, our brains are programmed to tell us not to listen to our parents and leave the nest. This is years of evolution to stop interbreeding. Go out, find another tribe. This is also why teens listen to their peers, partner this with a massive dopamine rush when trying new things it's all down to brain chemistry. Make sure there is a mentor they can relate to, somebody that gives sound advice. I did this with all my kids as I was that rebellious teen with nobody to guide me. Shouting never works neither does threats. Parenting does and the saying it takes a village to raise a child is true. Don't threat though, around the age of 23 they decide parents aren't so bad because brain chemistry evens out, then they don't see you as such an idiot!

This woman is MY friggan HERO!! I’m serious! I wish I had a mother like that! And she is the kind of mother I aspire to be!! No stone left unturned! Full Mama Bear!! You are amazing!!!

@user-wu3pk3su3d

3 ай бұрын

Pls DNT aspire to let ur young underage daughter marry a perverted 40 yr old man. DNT care what the times were. No way a proper parent would allow such a thing. Yes, it's not her fault , but the mom dropped the ball many times and could have prevented this. At least TRIED A LITTLE. But non the less she kept at it. Thank god

Grief doesnt fade on a timeline, it often increases and shows in different ways as time goes by. Thank you for covering this as I'm from Houston and haven't heard it

@LessMoneyLessChoice

9 ай бұрын

💯

Mary Rose’s letter is the first thing that’s made me cry in months. That poor woman. She was fighting for justice and penance, for something she didn’t do - that slimy excuse of a human being and everyone who enabled him did it, and alone. I hope she got the healing she deserves ❤

@crossedwires2629

9 ай бұрын

That coroner.... I wonder what was the story there.

@tredjesongen

9 ай бұрын

​@@crossedwires2629 yes. Try to find one without substance abuse problems. Its a very special job to say it at least..

@JamieDoe472

9 ай бұрын

Wasn't it kinda okay to beat your wife back then? To everyone judging the one mother for encouraging her daughter to go back to Felix who was clearly the father of her baby. Who would probably get custody of her son that he clearly resented... And the corner... If it's legal to beat your wife and your in the process of doing so and she "accidentally" falls off the boat and drowns..?? How many women have died like this and it been deemed an accident? I was listening to one of these docs just yesterday where a woman had defensive wounds that were clear to just about everyone other then the medical examiner who thought it was a heart attack. Never checked her for signs of s/a even though found half nude, didn't care the fire chief thought the small fire was fail arson and not a accidental lit cigarette....I don't think there is more crime now. I think we cotton onto it better, and have let so many biases go, partly because of the in your face evidence of DNA that has forced us to reevaluate how we look at crimes and mental health.

@HUMAN.OK.

9 ай бұрын

I also cried

@wingardiumlevioza7154

9 ай бұрын

Anyone know what is the song title in the end of the video?

Imagine being that mother working day & night trying to solve the case of multiple dead & missing women meanwhile the cops we pay to do this aren’t doing shit.

@EmilyBltz

8 ай бұрын

Instead of defunding we need to increase funding so they can afford to do a more thorough vetting process.

@kimberlycronen3998

8 ай бұрын

@@EmilyBltzWe pay them tons of money. They buy “toys” instead of proper staffing - military grade weapons and robodogs? 🤦🏻‍♀️ Most people agree there are lots of more effective places to spend that money. Not interested in funding them more than we are already in my city. Police deal with criminals (or they are supposed to) - they do not stop crime. Wouldn’t you rather fund programs that are proven to prevent crimes before they happen?

@coolmanyea5030

7 ай бұрын

@@kimberlycronen3998Actually active policing does indeed reduce crime

I am so sorry for all these people involved. I am shocked her mother gave up her portion of the house and moved away. I can't say I would have done the same, especially with this man's control over her daughter. I pray everyone has some peace

@llogan21

3 ай бұрын

It was a different time. I think women were expected to be independent under the care of a man at the age of 14 or so.. It's really sad and still shows in our youth today.

@pcoleman2562

Ай бұрын

@@llogan21 lol this was the 1960s, not the 200s AD. The average age for a woman to get married has been somewhere between the ages of 22 and 24 for like at least the past 300 years. And definitely not to a man over twice her age.

This is one of the saddest cases I've ever heard. RIP to those girls and the ones we didn't hear about. I hope that evil thing is burning in hell. To the remaining family members, I hope you all stay in touch.

Mary Rose lost her husband and daughter, I can’t imagine the level of sorrow. But she never let it defeat her in her fight for justice, not just for her own daughter but for the other women as well.

She's proof that you can't stop, smother or cover up a mother's love. It's eternal.

@FelonDog

9 ай бұрын

@grandinquisitor3933 If a mother knows and is allowing her daughter to get married, then it's not eloping. lmao You're all in these comments dissing on the mom, but you don't even know the definition of the word "elope." Elope: Run away secretly in order to get married, especially without parental consent.

@FelonDog

9 ай бұрын

@grandinquisitor3933 When you're being a troll on all the comments and don't understand the meaning of the words you used, it shows your lack of general intelligence and how anything you say shouldn't be taken seriously. lmao

@justanotherhappyhumanist8832

8 ай бұрын

Depends on the mother. There are a lot of horrible mothers in the world whose abuse is just as strong as this mother’s love. We’re all individuals. Some fathers and mothers would do anything to protect their child, as they should. Some give their everything to love their offspring and help them become all that they can be. But other fathers and mothers are terrible parents, undeserving of the children they bore. They destroy them, break, damage, and abuse them. Some even kill them. Not all parents are the same. You shouldn’t make sweeping statements like the one that you made because they simply aren’t true. This mother is only proof that you can’t cover up, stop, or smother some mothers’ love. But other mothers don’t love their children at all. Just as some fathers love their children with every breath of their being, and some don’t. Being a mother doesn’t automatically make you an amazing parent, and people believing statements like yours are one of the reasons why children are often taken away from really good fathers and put with horrible mothers during custody battles. Mothers are favoured in these battles, and it’s partially because people believe that all mothers have an innate, nurturing, protective instinct, when that simply isn’t true.

@_JustJoe

6 ай бұрын

​@@justanotherhappyhumanist8832 🩷

Annette really had a great voice. She's with her dad. So sad. So many beautiful young women. Justice was finally done. Terrific story. 💜

if my child ever tells me they dont want to be someone I would NEVER tell them to go back and try to work it out. it takes a lot of strength and courage for someone to walk out of a relationship especially when in danger..smh

@Jake-go2lq

17 күн бұрын

I believe they had a child together did they not?

@bristroyer1723

Күн бұрын

​@Jake-go2lq what does that even matter? You don't have to stay with someone just because you had a child. He could hurt the child too

@Jake-go2lq

Күн бұрын

@@bristroyer1723 There is an equivocation. I am referring to the position of the mother not knowing the gravity of the situation.

As a district attorney, how do you accept a coroners report about an accidental death when she was a gagged with a gash in the back of her head. It seems to me nobody wanted to do their real jobs at that time, and I hope that’s not the case nowadays which probably still is no justice in this world that’s why this world is the way it is

@bluecube7247

9 ай бұрын

It is still that way today

I’m confused he said his wife fell off the boat when they went around a stump in the water but when they found her two days later, she was gagged and had a big huge hole on the back of her head from being hit with something!? How could he have not been charged with murder house?

@bluecube7247

9 ай бұрын

Lazy law enforcement, coroner probably got rid of lost of their cases for them

@bethkrager6529

8 ай бұрын

Lazy medical examiner, not law enforcement.

This is easily one of the most infuriating true crime stories I’ve ever heard. How many wives and girlfriends of one man have to either die or mysteriously disappear for the authorities to DO SOMETHING?

@dche64

2 ай бұрын

I wish one of the family members had taken matters into their own hands.

Heartbreaking but also amazing! Thank you for posting this. RIP LADIES and the people who passed trying to get them justice. May God be with those still here and give them peace as well.🙏💔🕊️

I can't imagine that her mother felt, that she could not reach her daughter, and then reunited with her and Felix was back...

@nada2excoo

9 ай бұрын

She should have never left her the 2nd time....huge mistake

@csm4082

9 ай бұрын

@@nada2excooexactly! I was 😳

@SandraSealySeawomanBDS

9 ай бұрын

And letting him in the house she paid for?!

@HowManyHintsDoYouNeed

9 ай бұрын

And then she said "eh okay go ahead and take my daughter"

@gerry1620

9 ай бұрын

@@HowManyHintsDoYouNeedI don’t think that truly represents her feelings at the time.

I found myself crying uncontrollably after watching this video. I'm dealing with grieving the many losses in my life, in such a short period of time. What stood out for me is how tenacious and determined this woman was!! After losing my sister to domestic violence, her boyfriend had her cremated. MY family wasn't informed until a week later!! THAT'S THE REASON FOR MY TEARS!!🤗😢 ((I JUST GOTTA KEEP PUSHING THRU!))

@larae6885

9 ай бұрын

Keep pushing Terry!! I'm sorry for the loss, I've lost my sister too (not to DV, but drugs😢) it's a hole that will never get filled smh

@terryford7459

9 ай бұрын

@@larae6885 thank so much for 🌹the beautiful warm thoughts. Í will keep hanging in there, God has given me the strength. Have a wonderful day! 🌹🤗

@DaileyShorts

9 ай бұрын

Terry, I certainly hope you find peace

@creativekitties1247

9 ай бұрын

That's so sad, you don't know me but sending you a big hug, you should never have to go through that, hang in there ❤

@creativekitties1247

9 ай бұрын

​@larae6885 Sorry to hear about your loss too ❤

Mary Rose's reading of that letter at the end was some of the most powerful words I think Ive ever heard. Those words, that emotion. "heavy, and deep, and old, and very salty" After only a few years Im still grieving the loss of my sister. And while Im not old, I feel old. Her words really speak to that deep pain inside. The feeling is familiar. I hope that she's able to find some semblance of peace and healing now that the worst is over and that monster is finally behind bars.

You are a true healer and the light of life. So very proud of you, overcoming such tragedy and turning it into strength and forgiveness. Faith 💫

This lady certainly amended any mistakes she may have made with her daughter. She used every minute of her life bringing her daughters murderer to justice. Such courage to look into one’s self and deciding to make things right for her and her daughter. That’s true humility and strength. I wish this would have brought her daughter back for her but obviously life doesn’t work that way.

@janet5846

8 ай бұрын

​@@grandinquisitor3933enough please of these idiotic comments

@HavianEla

8 ай бұрын

@@grandinquisitor3933OR she just would’ve driven her daughter further into a murderer’s arms. Children aren’t all the same - some flourish under strictness and some rebel. Your comment is callous. Are YOU the perfect parent? Every (good) parent knows there’s no clear path in raising children, and it’s a case by case basis.

@cynthiaconnors183

8 ай бұрын

​@@grandinquisitor3933awwwwe. You had issues with your parents while growing up didn't you. It's kind of obvious. I'm so sorry.

@mrinalini9112

8 ай бұрын

People really think that kids are all innocent angels and parents are always the ones at fault. NOPE. Sometimes kids just f#ckup and there's nothing you can do, except watch and get hurt by them.

@dissraps

8 ай бұрын

​@@mrinalini9112that's why parents are....parents. to parent

It is terrible that he got to live almost his whole life free when he cut short the lives of so many. This case should have been investigated so long ago...they had all the pieces to the puzzle if only investigators and police at the time had looked. I am glad the families finally got some kind of closure, it was certainly long overdue, But he should have never been allowed to roam free for so long, would not be surprised if there are even more murders under his belt that we may never know about.

@frankG335

9 ай бұрын

In the 60s, the lives of women were not important. Women were not admitted to Ivy League schools, weren't allowed to have their own bank accounts without their husband's permission, and DV was ignored as a "private matter".

@CrissyBellon

9 ай бұрын

I was thinking the exact same thing! There surely could be more, that he may never confess to. Probably will never tell either, what happened to the two other women.🤔🫤

@TeaLilly

9 ай бұрын

Unfortunately, I completely agree with you. I don’t believe he stopped after the woman before Annette or even after Annette. Since there was 30 years of Mary looking, it breaks my heart to think how many more families are out there looking for a lost loved that he took from them. (If any are missing.) I truly hope that the women’s families see this or come across his name/face and will receive some closure. It’s still not enough to know who did it but at least he can not harm anyone else or take them from this world.

@DogeDogeriffic

9 ай бұрын

Exactly. It’s so disappointing and scary to think that law enforcement fails to do their basic duty of keeping people safe and enacting justice. People have nowhere else to run to if even the police themselves are unwilling to help. I’m glad Mary persevered nonetheless and enacted justice through her own two hands.

@slagit

9 ай бұрын

For sure some of these scumbags get away with so much stuff until they are either caught or end!!!

Excellent video. Very painful, but true and told well. Thank you for shedding light on this very sad story.

True crime fan here - glad to have found your channel. Great video - attention to detail and tight editing! Thanks :)

While nearly everyone else is regurgitating the same crimes over and over, ad nauseam, you shed light on the cases that didn't , for whatever reason, grab the headlines. Thank you for giving a voice to those who were/are for the most part, ignored. Both by law enforcement and the media alike. 💞💞💞💞💞

@sallgoodman2323

9 ай бұрын

This was an amazing story.

@davidkarisa4679

20 күн бұрын

I noticed the same thing. Granted, I may not have watched many videos from this channel, but from the few that I have, I came to the same conclusion as you. These cases are truly 'Unseen'. What a sobering moment this is...

Bill looked just like his Mom and he thank goodness had her heart and kind spirit also. What a horribly sad story. To know that the man who fathered you was so evil and what he did but unable to do anything with it due to lack of proof. That must have been torturous. I'm happy these women finally had their stories told. RIP

@deborahblackvideoediting8697

7 ай бұрын

It really shows how good a person he was that he wasn't influenced by his horrible father. It's so incredibly sad that he died a year after making those tapes. He was only in his 40s.

I know a lady who passed away without knowing her daughters killer. She had always hoped. But decades brought a divorce and the others kids not wanting to be around her. My adult daughter made friends with her in a local bar. I met her about 3 times. I hope Sonny has finally found peace.

This is the most riveting case I've heard in a while. Excellent job putting all of this together

Mary Rose is one of the most dedicated and brave people I have ever heard of. The son Bill Vail didn't deserve what he went through as a child and yet he faced his fear to help these families. Truly amazing.

The mother’s letter to her daughter at the end, is the most heartbreaking cry I have ever encountered. May God give her strength❣️

@SE013

2 ай бұрын

Why would "God' put her through this only to give her strength afterwards? How sadistic is this "God"? And by extension, how thoughtless do you have to be to wish that on her?

@kellycuckoo3143

2 ай бұрын

@@SE013 It appears you need as much prayer. The devil is the father of lies and evil. God is our deliverer and Savior. Seek him, and you shall find him. Do not remain in your blindness, and ignorance. There is much proof to Christ’s existence as well as the word of God is prophecy proven decade after decade.

@SE013

2 ай бұрын

@@kellycuckoo3143 If there's a devil, it seems like you're the one possessed by him...I suggest you consult a psychiatrist. Do not remain in your blindness and ignorance.

@kellycuckoo3143

2 ай бұрын

@@SE013 I pity you, lost soul. The children of the devil do not know him. He is my best friend. Idk how anyone makes it in this place without him, especially surrounded by demonic energy such as yourself. Remember me when you seek water in hell.

The pathologist who labeled the first murder as an accidental drowning cost a lot more people's lives and decades of heartache. They knew it was murder and could have put him away forever. They should be publicly disgraced.

This story like many others was heartbreaking and I wish everyone peace

So many people think these sorts of crimes only happen 'today' but the sad truth is, social media simply makes it easier for us to know about them and LE hopefully follow through on cases. These poor women did not deserve this and Mary Rose is a badass!!

@metalmellie4371

9 ай бұрын

I don't think they only happen today! You'd have to be some kind of dummy to think stuff like this hasn't ALWAYS went on throughout history! For goodness sake man, if anything it's not as bad as it used to be. It was easier to get away with stuff back then due to minimal clues and information you could uncover throughout history. We know people were definitely worse back in the biblical days, for example, it was nothing for someone to get stoned to death in public streets, easily shot in western days, no one would listen when DV went on in the early to mid 20th century. In the 70s I heard about and saw A LOT of shit go down that definitely wouldn't be tolerated today! No sir we know it was worse up until today and it is easier to catch and prosecute today. The worst thing going on these days that's horribly bad is "INDIFFERENCE"!!! That is the worst from our law enforcement, DA's, judges,coroners, etc etc etc!!! We have ALWAYS been terrible just it's in a different way these days! Oh and to those who don't know what indifference means, Google it, it's a horrible, horrible thing!

@dissraps

8 ай бұрын

Literally no one thinks that? You think there's a single person thinks there were LESS murders when it was almost impossible to track anyone and DNA wasn't a thing? And kids were less restricted, people wandered around ever everywhere? Lol

@davidjones8043

8 ай бұрын

@@dissraps yea there was actually smh... there WERE LESS PEOPLE In general. I swear yall are bright

@KaiFulci

7 ай бұрын

I would hazard to guess there are more murderers today but less serial killers.

So many KZread channels about sickening criminal cases here, and Unseen remains the goat in terms of storytelling and presentation that hook everyone to the last second (at least for me)! Keep up the good work!

@lesliewarnell5172

9 ай бұрын

We live in a global *misogynist* patriarchal society. It perceives girls and women as second-class citizens. It views us as expendable and discardable. We are sexualized and seen as walking v*ginas, sans humanity. To society, our lives hold no value. Law enforcement is but a microcosm of society. It spends very little resource, if any, on investigating and solving crimes committed against girls and women.

@ihateavocados6032

9 ай бұрын

So true 😭

@HowManyHintsDoYouNeed

9 ай бұрын

Ewu Crew.

@hensonlaura

9 ай бұрын

The goat?

@Rs_Rilla

9 ай бұрын

​@@HowManyHintsDoYouNeed Ewu crew glorifies and concentrates so much on the killers tho and focus on the mental issues the killers possibly have. Unseen focuses on the victims, and family. They give them the respect and honor they deserve.

So glad she got him .powerful story . Well made well narrated , thanks ✌️🙏🌹

Her husband's death was the starting point of everything... Mary lost two family members since that day. She is incredibly strong to do all that she did and experienced and still be here today to tell the story. She's a mother who has unconditional love and a mother that many deserve to have... Rest in peace to all the victims.

That’s an amazing woman. That’s proof that women can literally change the world if we put our mind to it.

@nunyabizness6113

9 ай бұрын

🙄

@psychadelicpotato8580

9 ай бұрын

Word.

@hensonlaura

9 ай бұрын

Lol! It took this to show you that? What do you think motherhood is about? We form the world's people - only a lot of us aren't as smart or dedicated as one might wish 😕

@cindymcanders

9 ай бұрын

@@hensonlaura come on….all I was saying is that women are incredible. It didn’t take a video to point it out to me, I just like to give credit where it’s due. A mothers love can overcome and so can women. Just love hearing stories of strong women!

@juneelle370

9 ай бұрын

@@nunyabizness6113don’t worry, Men can change the world for the better too 💜 we can compliment one sex without it putting down the other. Humans can make this life better for people or a living hell. You

How is this acceptable on any level from the police? What was that coroner thinking (or drinking 🙄) when he stated it was accidental drowning with a scarf round her throat and blunt force trauma to her head ??? Unbelievable it wasn't looked into properly

@nyxspiritsong5557

9 ай бұрын

Exactly what I was thinking....I was so confused I went back and rewatched that part because I can't figure out HOW he came to that conclusion. Smh unbelievable

@Lola-AreaCode212

9 ай бұрын

Yes! I just made the same comment. That was screaming at me through the entire video. How can anyone be SO INCOMPETENT?

@CK8smallville

9 ай бұрын

The other people in the case really should have challenged him and had his work reviewed.

@animerlon

9 ай бұрын

@@Lola-AreaCode212 With this level of error over what is glaringly obvious to the meanest intellect, there's got to be more than incompetence going on. Maybe Felix worked his supposed charm on the coroner, threw money at him, or had blackmail worthy info on him. What i don't get is, why it was never questioned or a review asked for. With the magnitude of this 'blunder', i would expect his employers to be assessing his work as a whole afterwards. Was he the head coroner & some kind of big deal that made him untouchable? Damn strange.

@animerlon

9 ай бұрын

I don't think even a drunk, first year coroner would make this bad of a 'mistake'. Would love to know the coroner's story. This is just too strange.

A Mothers love is the fuel that enables a normal human being to do the impossible.

A beautifully constructed documentary. Condolences to all the bereaved and congratulations to all who investigated, maintained records and participated in the pursuit of justice for these women and families.

Wow, that was frustrating-I can’t wrap my head around the lack of police activity.

Thank you for holding on, Ike. Thank you sir. I'm glad you were able to pass with peace knowing you helped these women after holding that evidence and testimony all those years. Rest In Peace, Sir.

NEVER doubt the power of a mother when it comes to protecting her children.

Is there no second opinion to an autopsy if the detective knows the evidence doesn't fit the coroner's finds ? ! The lack of service and Urgency to all three crimes by one man is unbelievably heart wrenching 😢 This "have no resources/funds" has to stop being an excuse to not investigate a crime. Especially suspicious, missing, and murder. 💔

Wow, that must’ve been horrifying. Thank you for covering this story.

That 90 year olds purpose was his part in this trial. As soon as he said 'greeted at the door by a 90 year old man in a wheel chair' I said to my partner he will pass very soon now he's given his whole truth and played his part and he did after 3 months. Survived 90 yrs on this planet and once his truth was told, the burden lifted and he passed away 3 months later. Perfect example of how we all have our roles to play.

I’m so inspired by the determination of Mary 🌹Thank goodness for those 2 men in Mississippi who listened, & the undying ❤️ of a mother for her child.

keep em coming!! 🧡🧡

When annette said I feel like you abandon me, that was a cry for help, we must learn to listen to our children

"At least, now I get to see mom..." That made me tear up a little...

What a fantastic video such passion put in it! I can tell you really cared. I was tearing up throughout the video i cant believe how evil this world can be but i thank god for ppl like mary rose and all the ppl that helped her! God bless everyone. 🙏

Outstanding report! Thank you. New sub❤

This is a scary case. I can’t imagine the things going on in her mind at that time. We appreciate your insights. Keep up the good work.

In my opinion: besides catching a killer. The utmost importance is Finding answers. Learning locations. For loved one's. That's worth more than any justice system punishment could ever offer. I'm so blown away by the quality of this channel. There really is no other channel like this one. It's like the content you create is Unseen, but then it gets brought into the light like no one has ever seen it before. Amazing work.

I don’t cry when I watch murder cases anymore, I’ve become very desensitised to the stories (I do feel for the victims and families of course) But this, THIS case. This video. It’s making me fight tears, the pure determination and love that Mary Rose expresses, her will power to bring justice to not only her daughter but the other victims too is absolutely incredible and inspiring. Her letter at the end is what got the tears flowing for me. This video is incredibly well put together, beautifully done

Amazing videos! Well done! Mary Rose has my total respect!

These cases are so sad and so absurd! I really don’t understand why the mom accepted to let a stranger walk into her house and ask her to leave- I would have called the police right away to help get him out. Then, that judge and policemen who decided that the drowning of his first wife was an accident! How did she get a scarf in her mouth and around her neck, by accident? And the fbi folks who refused to look into these cases and only got interested when a book came out! This guy could have been behind bars way earlier, before he killed all those women!

@janesmith9024

9 ай бұрын

That seemed strange to me - if my child's boyfriend or spouse told me to leave my house there is no way I would go

@pambennett8967

9 ай бұрын

He was the husband, and her daughter had half of the house

@pepperkilldevelopment9069

9 ай бұрын

It’s not the cases as used but the scums who committed crimes

@KittynFranky7643

9 ай бұрын

I hear you, but I've known some mothers who did similar things just so they could keep in touch with their children. These moms are backed into a corner.

@user-nb5lj4wc6f

9 ай бұрын

I was just thinking the same Sad😢

This is every mother's nightmare may they all rest in peace and may the remaining families find some sort of comfort. The mothers letter was so heartbreaking I just wanted to hug her and tell her what a great job she did finding the killer and justice for all. She is a great, strong and courageous woman.

Mary Rose...what an inspiring and strong woman you are. This really touched me. All my love to you!

The last minute of this video - Mom's letter to her daughter and the ending song done by Annette, was truly done with good taste. Her Mom has such a way with words and I can see where her daughter got her creative talent for song making. I lost my son in a tragic accident so I understand a mother's heart who wish she could had done things differently.

All these incompetent authority figures should have been held accountable. Either fired, placed in jail, etc. They are just as culpable for these deaths as the murderer. Too bad it's to late for justice.

Amazing tenacity by Mary to never give up! So glad that after 40 tragic years for all the families this narcissist monster has been found guilty. RIP to these unfortunate beautiful trusting women.😢🙏🏻💐

@humbleisme2381

9 ай бұрын

💯 truly sad. We must, as a society, teach our youth about the narcissistic and their abuse- the worst kind of abuse. Survivors are never the same..

@Aangel452

9 ай бұрын

@@humbleisme2381 well said.

To the mom: She was manipulated by the person who holds all responsibility for what happened. You did what you could as a mother and as a human that was on the other side of true evil. You are not part of that evil and hold no responsibility yourself but are a victim of it.

That mom was relentless. Good for her!

That coroner enabled this monster to go on murder 2 other women. How in gods name did he rule Mary's death to be an accident.

@cynthiaconnors183

8 ай бұрын

I'm thinking he knew that creetin or one of the killer's family members.

@alisonancell6047

8 ай бұрын

@@cynthiaconnors183Yes, your probably right.

@kellsndudz

8 ай бұрын

The difference between medical examiners and coroners is shocking. You literally need no experience to be A coroner. Like dentists and shit make "great" coroners. Seriously, look into it.

@alisonancell6047

8 ай бұрын

@@kellsndudzI didn't know that. Shocking!!

@janerecluse4344

5 ай бұрын

Either a payoff from Felix, or Felix had some real dirt on him.

So horrible to not know where your child is. I love my daughter and I would be so devastated if something happened to her and not only that to literally watch the guy do it over and over to other young women. Prayers that the families receive healing.

@mesdee7605

8 ай бұрын

Mv

Oh wow. That video was strong. Very strong. It is so good to know that Mary and others have finally found some semblance of peace.

Mary Rose-- You did an amazing job catching a killer. Your daughter would be proud. May God help you to find peace!!! You got justice for all these people. Sorry for your loss!!

That letter she wrote to her daughter Annette really really broke my heart😢🙏🏼❤️

Wow, this mom was brave. I'm so sorry to hear about the hell that she went through.

That isn't just good coverage - that is great! So many people involved made it confusing here and there - but this is incredibly well done! And Mary Rose was phenomenal.

What an incredible mother, an incredible person in general!! We need more people like her in this world!!

Hindsight is always 20/20. While it’s easy to look back and think how we might have done things differently, one thing is for certain. This woman loved her daughter. I’m glad she’s finally able to start grieving her loss and I hope she finds peace one day.

Mom made some wrong turns but clearly loved her daughter and tried to help her get out of the situation 😢😮. Annette was a victim. I think it’s dad Mary Rose worked so hard to get them a place and Felix took everything away from her including Annette. He deserves the life in prison. So sad for all the loved ones left behind😢 Rest with the Lord ❤❤

@tylerm2676

9 ай бұрын

Mom made some grave mistakes left right and center... She is somewhat responsible for allowing this to happen

@sighkokat8487

9 ай бұрын

​@@tylerm2676 no she's not she didn't commit or help commit the murder she's in no way responsible

@tylerm2676

9 ай бұрын

@@sighkokat8487 ok we can agree to disagree, here actions or lack of put her own daughter in that risk...

@sneekz07

8 ай бұрын

@@tylerm2676 Oh shut up, she already said that in her letter in the end. Stop piling on.

@tylerm2676

8 ай бұрын

@@sneekz07 I'm just stating my opinion, how bout you go kick rocks

I absolutely love this channel, keep up the amazing work ❤

It’s good to know that we still have good people that look into cold cases and may all those beautiful ladies rest in peace🙏🏼❤

Poor Bill Vail. The trauma and fear he had lived with since childhood affected his health. It is well-known that emotional, mental and physical abuse weakens our immune system. I am sure, (his dad) the killer felt after 50 years, he'd gotten away with murder. Thankfully, he got life in prison.

I can’t imagine leaving my child the second time. No way would I have left my house.

@xxthatsnotmexx

9 ай бұрын

Makes zero sense

@calij586

9 ай бұрын

This way she knew where her daughter was. Otherwise he would flee with her again. I totally understand! She was selfless! God Bless You Mary Rose!❤

@kathybrem880

9 ай бұрын

It’d be a cold day that creep would force me out of my house!! I’d remove him-without being too blunt, yeah I could

Sending love to all involved ❤

What a beautiful kind hearted soul mom.Heartbreaking.