MLM's Want To Steal Your Soul (with Robert FitzPatrick)
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CHAPTERS:
0:00 - Intro
0:57 - Robert FitzPatrick
2:01 - What is Ponzinomics?
5:06 - The Conjurer
6:37 - Flowers For Robert
8:54 - The Airplane Game
12:13 - Thought-Stopping
13:18 - The Calculator Story
19:14 - The Losers Club
25:45 - The Big Lie
28:33 - MLM vs Pyramid
31:56 - Bad Apples?
34:40 - Fact or Conspiracy?
36:20 - The New Zeitgeist
40:51 - Failure = Success
43:37 - MLM Is NOT Direct Selling
49:50 - Laugh At My Pain
50:37 - A Language Of Deception
55:11 - But It's Legal!
59:54 - Trapped In The Elevator
1:06:10 - Mindset Over Matter
1:14:26 - A Cult Of Capitalism
1:25:27 - Unnatural Selection
1:28:43 - No Hope Needed
1:35:27 - Final Thoughts
Пікірлер: 674
I was in Amway for 2 years with the concept to follow the system and trust your uplines. Wasted money and got nothing. All these conferences just to sell motivation to keep you in the business.
I was in IM Academy and all I walked away with was financial losses, regret and 2 wasted years. Good times
@HigoreHabboOficial
2 жыл бұрын
Same man, I quitted IM about a month ago and I lost money and time in the process.
@justmuppet1765
2 жыл бұрын
I was almost in your situation but I got out about a month in and my "mentor" aka an ex close friend payed the first month for me, so I got lucky. But look at it this way like I do. This experience opened my eyes to forex and stocks and such, and I now know A LOT more about MLM's. I now know not to get caught in them and I have everything I need to help keep friends and relatives away from them. I'm sorry you lost money and time but be glad you got out earlier rather than later and keep up your hard work with whatever you do in life! I wish you the best of luck and a happy life filled with laughter and love!
@mariogaspar6288
2 жыл бұрын
Couple months for me good thing tho I didn’t waste more money or time
@segundamayingi8283
2 жыл бұрын
same. I feel so bad for all the people I put into my “business” I dropped all my classes during my junior year and I kinda regret that 😵💫
@rakalayak9018
2 жыл бұрын
Same bro same, it took a lot of time to recoup and recover from the trauma loss and financial troubles
I hate Amway the most. It took my childhood away from me from 2 to 16 years old, that's the time my parents were in it so I didn't have parents, all they did was brainwash me as well. I was conned to read the books, listen to the tapes, eat and breath Amway, it's sickening, I could go on.
@xcusedluv6788
2 жыл бұрын
That’s so cultish and scary. I’m sorry you went through this, what the hell. 😒
Man, seeing Marco evolve over time is just incredible
@gafurrzogaj1426
2 жыл бұрын
Lol is it just me or that guy sounds alot like Eminem lol 😆
@shroomssadow4981
Жыл бұрын
@@gafurrzogaj1426it’s just you man 😂
I hate WFG the most. They almost got me when I desperately looking for new work. Glad I did my due diligence and dug up what I needed to stay away
@felixfloresv6373
2 жыл бұрын
Second that brother
@kylereyes2337
2 жыл бұрын
I was unfortunately part of it for a year and a few months. I lost a lot of friends and almost ruined my relationship with my father and my family friends.
@bonafidebains
2 жыл бұрын
World Fools Groups 😂
@InvestedLifestyle
2 жыл бұрын
WFG is really the worst
@dreamchaser2521
2 жыл бұрын
I paid to join bc they used different name from the broker. They said Axianta group but it was the same as WFG. I saw youtube video about WFG scam. They tried to sell me IUL but I refused. They told me to write down 25 ppl with contact info which I refused. Dirty people.
The MLM I hate the most... Tie between young living and Herbalife. The grip Herbalife has on Latinos is horribly predatory and insidious.
@jpt610
2 жыл бұрын
Monat in my neck of the woods.
@myBquest
2 жыл бұрын
There are Herbalife clubs at every f*kn corner. I'm sick of people trusting them.
@EpicToroX3
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I have undertaken the task of calling them out at every opportunity.
@IkarosNeko
2 жыл бұрын
Herbalife and 4Life. I’m Puerto Rican in a largely lower income Puerto Rican and Caribbean hispanic community, I saw this shit everywhere. My mother did it years ago when I was too young to understand what it was. I’m 23 and now having to watch old classmates and friends fall prey to it. Almost all of them being mothers or support their family and need that money. It’s disgusting.
@Djentlemanthall
2 жыл бұрын
FIFA endorses Herbalife, that’s terrible
Iconic! Getting an interview with Robert FitzPatrick is so huge. I'm sure he is stoked about getting an interview with Always Marco too. That's what we call a win-win-win in the paper industry
love the use of "the conjurer" bosch painting for the book cover
Hate IML academy the most. Used to be brainwashed by them and got out 😵💫
@lmusima3275
Жыл бұрын
I’m watching this for the third time taking notes 🗒️. Such an awesome conversation about MLM. Great 👍 points to debunk the get rich quick pyramid scheme lies and scams they hide
@RyRobio
Жыл бұрын
@@lmusima3275 I hear you there. They're so predatory. Be sure to spread the word 💪🏽
Welcome back to Marco's crusade to take down MLM's. True warrior!
I grew up in the Mormon cult. Utah, which is predominantly Mormon, is a major centre for MLMs. It's the perfect place to start an MLM because the cult tactics of the Mormon church are very similar to those of MLMs.
@SKITTLELA
2 жыл бұрын
I've always thought Mormonism seems cultish, but man, they seem like the nicest people overall.
@TheLadyk29
Жыл бұрын
Is Zija still around?
Which MLM do I hate the most? ACN. I have seen desperate kids and my neighbors fall victim to ACN, trying to make it big through the MLM. I’ve seen smart kids get mixed up with it through peer pressure, and I find it horrid that such companies exist. Thanks for covering MLMs Marco, I hope your efforts are a great step forward towards ridding our society of these devious entities.
@theyjustwantyourmoney4539
Жыл бұрын
I quit ACN, my upline was broke and their upline was also broke, its all lies and fake rich hiring super sports cars for show off
@mikejarmoluk3523
Жыл бұрын
Thinking about ibo status in acn ,customer for now ,people seem ok not overly fake (wfg ,amway)but may change over the years,their comp plan sounds to good to be true plus they all invite in a shady (my term) way
@JacksonBottom-cz2fl
6 ай бұрын
ACN just lost the "perks" it use to give its IBO's. ACN is just like the rest of them. Its even worse because they sell a product you could literally buy on a website, you don't need a human to buy it.
This interview was just… *chef’s kiss*. It is heartbreaking to know that people are lured into these cults and we are actually vulnerable to this unless we actively work on our critical thinking and questioning. Thanks for this.
Monat is my least favorite since they target young vulnerable women with financial problems and give them false hope, take their money, and bully them into harassing their vulnerable female friends with financial problems. It’s so sad that most of these women are young single moms desperate to support their families.
@cobracommander9138
3 ай бұрын
Pat from Valuetainment says he specifically targets minority women specifically Latina women. He has entire women only conventions. Pat targets the most vulnerable and less likely to be informed about MLM's and how insurance agents are actually paid.
Great discussion!! As someone who was in 3 different MLMs and who's now totally anti-MLM I am thrilled to listen to these two!!
@brandyisblue
2 жыл бұрын
this^
@vincenthamel3420
11 ай бұрын
what made you join number 2 and 3 after no.1 failed?
I remember my recruiter in ACN told me that “we don’t sell to customers”, “we acquire them” 😂
@tafseerahmadhomes
2 жыл бұрын
Awful
@sweetcherii
Жыл бұрын
They all say you're not selling. I don't know trying to get people in on a product by talking them how wonderful it is is selling to me.
Amway, two months. Avoid anyone that you halfway know randomly messaging you about sponsorships with random big companies, claims to know couples who have allegedly retired at a given young age, or uses phrases such as “keeping your options open.”
i’ve never been talked to by an MLM nor am i a victim but i find these so interesting and you’re doing Gods work! 🙏🏼
@RevolutionaryThinking
2 жыл бұрын
You dodged a giant bullet.
@josephinehenry8236
2 жыл бұрын
Same here! It’s a fascinating subject 😯
Considering how predatory, how disregarding they are about the financial disaster they cause their victims, how much they bully the people that leave, how little conscience that recruiters have - I consider all MLM's have psychopathic tendencies. I don't like them at all.
I got a LinkedIn message about a job opportunity. He was using typical business language, looked like a typical recruiter message. He asked for a phone call. He kept asking questions about me, would not mention the company name, used vague language about entrepreneurship and e-commerce describing the job. I told him I need a job posting with the job title and job description and the company and he would not do it. He told me to attend a Zoom meeting. I refused. I looked up if this was a scam online and it was Amway. These MLM's are disgustingly deceptive!! Not ok!
The MLM I hate the most would most likely be NXIVM. For a company to pride its self for providing the tools that enable people to experience more joy and functionality, it sure fell short. This company exhibited some of the worst manipulation and brainwashing I've ever seen in a mlm. It was absolutely horrifying when the abuse and mistreatment within inner circles came to light as well. Head honcho Keith Raniere was charged with sex trafficking, CP, wire fraud and good ol racketeering. Mans had to go. Very stoked to see this video!!!
@slothsoul6863
Жыл бұрын
Yea not to mention the women that were high up in that who indoctrinated the newer girls coming in had them branded on the hip with an obscure symbol. Later they realized it was kieth raniere’s initials. Pretty horrifying
“The Gifting Scheme” is the most sinister description of MLM that I’ve heard.
What an amazing accomplishment for you , Marco! This is an amazing interview. You should be so proud! Thank you for fighting for what’s right 👏🏼❤️
I recently had a boss ask me my "why" and as someone formerly involved in an mlm I found that extremely triggering. I'm so glad Robert validated my feelings on the fact that that's none of their business and they don't get to know that about me. Knowing I can be duped to that level makes me feel extremely protective of those aspects of my life. It's taken me many years but I think im finally getting to the point where I don't feel the need to overshare and tell my story as a means of feeling included or valued in my employment situation. Thank you so much for this interview Marco and Robert, yall are the GOAT
What I love about Robert Fitz Patrick interventions is that it always bring something new, a deeper view, a new angle to spot the particularities of MLM's. Thanks Always Marco for having him. Thank you both it really helps understanding what the fuck happened to us. It make so much sense and ends up putting words on an incredible trauma. 1h39mn of free therapy :)
Really didn’t think I was interested enough to watch until the end, but once I started I couldn’t stop. Fitzpatrick’s insights are fantastic and you did a great job interviewing him. Thanks!
Amway hands down. The oldest in the book and spawned this entire thing. Absolutely ridiculous. Thank you for all that you do. You’re a real one.
Literally just binged this whole video and this hour was 1000000% worth it. Anyone who sees this, i'd highly recommend buying his book. I didn't know MLM manipulation ran this deep.. Sheesh. Great Video though Marco as always
Robert Fitzpatrick the anti MLM OG!! So hyped for this!!
I hate Monat cause of what they did to my mother. They took her money & when she tried to return the products for a refund they gave her the runaround to make sure they didn’t have to refund her. The hun that recruited her was a member of her church, and that’s why when folks say hello to me (IRL & online)I’m always on guard. I suggest folks to have that same attitude at this time.
This was a great interview, Marco ☺️ It shows you were well prepared. You could tell Robert appreciated the mental gymnastics and the fact you asked him to consider an alternate ending. I'm sure this was a treat for him. I'm super proud of you!
I think Beach Body is probably my most hated. I've always had a bad relationship with food and body image and those f***s totally launched me into disordered eating.
The faith based manipulation tactics engaged in by It Works! are frustrating. My friend is in deep and she’s so stuck on her “why” it drives me away. Glad I didn’t join but sad for All of those who do or have.
This interview was fire!! I've never fallen for an MLM, but I have friends and family who have. This gave me so many talking points, thank you!Great job, Marco!
WFG. A dear friend got involved and was drained financially. I believe the stress of his feelings of failure led to his heart attack and death.
@koorabelayo4035
2 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear that. I was also scamed by acn and they rip $500 off me then i realised how impossible it was to succeed then i left and abandoned the whole thing. The day i left it felt like chains came off my body and mind..
I hate all MLMs that make medical claims. It gives people false hope and I think it can hurt these people a lot if they believe this will cure them (and by believing it they for example don't take the medication they need)
I remember having an interview with an MLM company (insurance agency). Funny how I dodged a bullet there.
@saveyourhero3307
2 жыл бұрын
@@johnd9541it was PHP Agency but I keep getting messages from people who work for Primerica.
@karloponte1565
Жыл бұрын
Did you join or get a license before leaving? I joined a day ago because I knew my mom wouldn't stop without me accepting the offer of a "trusted agent" advertising big money deals. I won't recruit people, and I noticed how they want us to join Zoom meetings every other day and train at a physical location at their workshops. I dont want to be indoctrinated fully into it.
@saveyourhero3307
Жыл бұрын
@@karloponte1565No I didn’t get a license before leaving. I left at the same day as the interview.
Years ago I hosted a TV show in St. Louis and I wanted Mr. Fitzpatrick as a guest along with an MLM promoter. My producer asked me if I would be unbiased in the interview. I should have lied and said "of course" but instead I said that "MLMs are a scourge on society and we need to share that, Robert is the man to do that". Robert - you were simply amazing in this interview - it should be required watching for every human being. Marco - I had never heard of you until yesterday but dude - you rocked this interview - you are much better at this than I was on TV back in the day. Godspeed to you both!!
I was in IML for about 3 months and got out in record breaking time. I felt like a complete fraud nor was I really making money trading. What I also found so odd is that every couple or married couple were both in the “opportunity”. I was never seeing someone in and the other out. So odd, nobody in IML are licensed professionals of any sort. It’s absolutely disgusting.
They are attempting to recruit vulnerable people through churches. So Im noticing in my church community that some individuals are trying to use small group meeting formats in the name of God to recruit to an MLM. Ive really seen this with ILM Academy. This is not from God and its not a good representation of God. Stay away from MLMs and speak the truth about them to your friends and church family who may be entertaining the idea of joining one.
@Numbers21589302
2 жыл бұрын
These people use religions to take advantage of people as an in group. It’s so much easier for them to come off as a trusting Christian, Muslim, etc. when they make others believe “I wouldn’t rip you off, I’m a practicing (insert religion here), and that goes against our practice, and I definitely wouldn’t deceive a fellow member of said (religion)”. Really sad, and beyond that these people often also think they’re helping these people in their religion. It creates a very easy in group.
Marco, you saved me, and you saved so many people. Thank you so much for your work and please let us know how we can support you. Keep doing this, you're inspiring so many people and shaping our society little by little. Education is key. Thank you!
I've seen many interviews with Robert, they were all excellent. This one was the best. Every person on earth should see this. Thank you!!!!!
i’ll never forget the summer right after i graduated high school. (2017) everyoneeeee was going crazy for the forex trading MLMs. they tried to recruit me but i was broke and didn’t have the startup money. i think it was around $200 at the time. and also the idea of having to be in constant contact with your “team” and going to meetings put me off. i’m a very unsociable and introverted person so that just didn’t sound appealing to me lol. glad i never joined.
Dope interview! I remember him from the Lularich doc, but he wasn't really featured to break things down quite like this. This was awesome 💯
As for me, the MLM I hate to the most is ACN. Their tactics are diabolical
@anij80
2 жыл бұрын
What is acn?
@bendaallan3347
2 жыл бұрын
@@anij80 Marco has a series on it on this channel, check it out it’s worth your time
@anij80
2 жыл бұрын
@@bendaallan3347 oh ok!!! I'm intrigued 🤔
Marco: your interview style, questions, and analysis, and reflections were high-grade work in this video. Congratulations for such professionalism. I gained more insight from watching this interview.b
This was a great interview, Marco! All FACTS! Very well done, sir. 👍 And edit: The other thing with a McDonald’s franchise owner is not dependent, and doesn’t get paid, by hiring or “recruiting” employees to work for their McDonald’s. MLM’s are a huge joke!
Although new, BOO is by far my least favorite right now. Their "product" (dirt) is just so incredibly dangerous and we have no idea what its impact is on people's health!!! That book looks like a great read!
@anij80
2 жыл бұрын
Gag, eating dirt !! 🤢🤮
Marco… I’m only 18 mins in and this is the most intriguing video I’ve ever watched. I LOVE THIS.
Glad your back and didn’t let them keep you down. Keep up the great work!
I love these comments. Everyone so pumped to see you back to doing something you do so well!! Big ups Marco!! We are Allll here for it!!💪🏼
omg when you showed your copy with the bookmarks and he smiled 🥺🥺 it must've been awesome to see someone so engaged with his work
This is so informative. I wish I could make my brother see this as he's currently in an MLM. I think it's ruining his career and his future.
MLM is massive walking contradiction in of itself
Took me a few days to get the full listen done but im so glad I did! Awesome interview. You guys are amazing.
Marco, your interview was structured so perfectly your questions were concise it captivated me and kept my attention. Really good interview it’s obvious you prepared and valued your interview subject!
Very good Interview.. Honestly didn't expect to watch the whole thing but here we are. Well done Papa Marco
WFG and Primerica. Experienced them first hand…
Fantastic discussion! I really appreciate how you two systematically worked through each discussion point and built on the topics. I found it very easy to listen to and understand. 👍
The quality and information in your videos has skyrocketed, Marco. Thank you for doing what you do and educating the masses for free on this predatory and fucked up industry.
A superb interview. Excellent from both. Two unsung heroes the likes of which the world needs. More power to the both of you and a big thank you.
Marco you’re the BOSS!!! this is so informative and answers so many questions I still had about mlm 😌🙏
Man i love your channel. I’ve been binge watching your videos for the past week ever since i quit the blood sucking MLM i was in. I would love to hop on a zoom call with you to expose the lies and craziness that this place had me endure.
This interview was so well done! Great job, Marco.
What a thorough, deep, and insightful interview! Thank you both for your hard work, research, and commitment to good ethics.
I think if you are invited to dinner under false pretenses you should know to walk away. And if you are willing to deceive your friends you have a character flaw.
Thank you for this “Heavy Weight” interview and content. This was really interesting and informative, with a lot of new-to-me information.
This deserves so much more views. Fantastic content Marco.
Wow, this was a really good interview, and you guys flowed together really well. Very enjoyable watch.
Robert, you are a very positive person and I hope your words get to all the people in need!
EXCELLENT interview! Marco is so poised and naturally articulate. I love it. 🎉
You're a really good interviewer and conversationalist. Keep it going brother!
Using your platform to better the world, you sir are the hero we didn't know we needed ❤️
Amazing conversation! Great content. Love what you do Marcos’ 👍
Incredible interview. Glad I’ve been able to see you build up to this
Awesome!! Listening through this now - excited!!
LOVE your videos! So informative and entertaining! Thank you!! 🙏
I feel so bad for people hypnotized by mlms. Thank you. Excellent video and interview. I vote for Thrive or Le-Vel for worst MLM
This is awesome knowledge! Thanks for doing this. There are so many MLM companies out there. Just recently my brother tried to get me in to one, believing it’s the next big thing. And my brother is not a bad person... a crypto something .. just over 1,5 years old.. but thanks to the knowledge I get from channels like these there’s no way I will ever fall in that trap again!! Send video’s like these to your loved ones in the hope that they TOO will wake up. There are no shortcuts. Work hard , honest, and earn it!
Wow wow, this is frigging amazing. What a fantastic interview, best video you've ever done, so fascinating 👏 😀
SPEECH 110 flawless interview! FATALITY!
Finally! I've been waiting on a new video!
Marco got me out of IM and I’m forever grateful
One meeting for me. Something didn't feel right. So I searched "The truth about pyramid schemes" and here you are with all this info. Thanks 👍
Extremely interesting Interview, which you conducted perfectly. Very well done, mate!
EXCELLENT WORK, MARCO!
You are doing good work in this world!
the wait was well worth it !
Just purchased the book. Looking forward to it!
Great video, loved the interview and information you passed on to us
I got an MLM ad on this video priceless 😂😂😂
@Sfamo2
2 жыл бұрын
Omg so did I.😂
Keep up the good work to spread the awareness and prevent future victims!
You're such a good interviewer Marco. Keep up the good job 👍👏👏
You're a legend Marco, keep fighting the good fight
Thank you for this one SIR. You’re a real one ☝🏻
This was a fantastic interview with Robert. Well done. I have bought my son Ponzinomics. I think every school and university should have a copy in their library. We also should educate our kids at a young age so they don’t fall prey to this disgraceful lie! Keep doing what you’re doing! 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
@tairix3616
Жыл бұрын
In Japan, they started doing it in middle school and high school. Back then, we didn’t have it so it was cool to hear lol
Thanks for the interview. It's great to learn why MLMs are wrong from the question and answer section.
Just started watching your content and learned about you from CC Saurez. Loving this interview!
Fantastic interview, Marco!
this is such a brilliant video!