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It would be so funny if European Jaguar, Japanese T2/F1 and Chinese JH-7 have a tea party together.

@AndreDiasRJ

5 ай бұрын

Play warthunder. All those are there

@adamzhu2313

5 ай бұрын

@@AndreDiasRJ Don't have time for online gaming, but thanks

@Downinohio206

5 ай бұрын

Don’t forget the f4 phantom

@adamzhu2313

5 ай бұрын

@@Downinohio206 It is another one of my favorite, but frankly, it looks a bit too different from these 3, like where the wings are mounted.

@KF99

5 ай бұрын

⁠​⁠@@Downinohio206F-4K wouldn’t come, because JH-7 had taken his engines.

The Jaguar and the F1/T2 were quite different in their role, and just happened to have the same engines because it was the only option for a small twin engine supersonic jet. The Mirage F1 was also quite similar if not for the single engine. Even the AMX from Italy and Brazil is not that different, despite not being supersonic and with a single engine. If your requirements in the late sixties were for a second line single pilot plane, with supersonic capabilities and the ability to work from barely prepared runways, you need high wings to keep the cockpit low on the ground, high air intakes to keep them away from the dirt, a nose mounted gun and a nose radar. In the end, studying the way the wing and the control surfaces work on the F1/T2, there is little in common with the Jaguar except a general wing plan similarity. The first flight of the T2 is also too close to that of the Jaguar to imply it could have been copied. Could Japan have bought the Jaguar instead? Probably yes as the F1 was far from being able to replace an F104, and was used more as "ground hog" then as a flying falcon, but Japan often prefer expensive indigenous developments, despite unbearable costs, to support the development of it's own industry, in a way not much different form what France does, but without the benefits of an export market (Japan cannot sell weapons abroad) while still relying heavily on American companies. I think they had enough of this attitude with the Mitsubishi F2, a plane that is more expensive and probably less capable then both the Rafale and the Typhoon. The recent agreement about the Tempest seems to confirm this.

Funny how the British and French originally wanted a T-38 like supersonic trainer and collaborated on a joint program. However, this design became too large and powerful and ended up becoming the Jaguar attack and strike aircraft. The Brits would later develop the smaller Hawk, and the French would develop the Alpha Jet with the Germans. It does seem that the Japanese were happier to take a larger Jaguar like design for the basis of their T-2 trainer and develop the F-1 attack fighter later.

Just about everyone who used the F-104 experience "difficulties" with it

@kdrapertrucker

4 ай бұрын

Mainly from trying to use it in a role it was never designed for. It was designed to to fly high, straight, and fast. Which is why it was nicknamed "missile with a man in it" as an interceptor to shoot down bombers. It does not like low speed low altitude flight it's like trying to use a tank as a boat, you might be able to pull it off, but there are going to be problems.

The F-1s entered service with the same three-piece windscreen as the T-2; this was replaced by the 1-piece curved windscreen during a mid-life update.

Another wonderful video about T-2 & F-1 Mitsubishi designed aircraft's video clearly explained all characteristics and historical backgrounds of these two Japanese domestic designed aircraft's for JDF airforce...video shared by an excellent ( weapon detective) channel. Thank you for sharing

i love your content 👍🏻

That was a very interesting video.

Thank u very much ❤🎉

Im wondering how the new planes will perform against Godzilla and the various other monsters that routinely attack Japan?

@petexkinggodzilla

5 ай бұрын

They did back in 84

@teovu5557

5 ай бұрын

it can transform into a giant mech that can combine with other jets into a bigger mech

Another interesting jet. I am going to aquire it diecast model (already have F2)

Good looking aircrafts

Yugoslavia produced a very similar aircraft around the same time period

@WeaponDetective

5 ай бұрын

Wait for the next air content

IDK why, but the F-1 + T-2 look like really fun jets to fly. Published service ceilings are always a lie. It’s almost not even worth including.

True, similar jet engine.

F-4 Phantom rear half with a F-104 Starfighter front half. The wings are like F-16's. Very similar but I'm sure it's all an original design using the technologies at the time. The Chinese are the only ones that straight-out copy from other nations in my opinion.

If the Mirage F-1 and Jaguar has a child

@curtisjordan5303

5 ай бұрын

😂😂 I always thought the Jag was the love child of a Phantom and F-1

Totally underrated aircraft!!!!

I remember seeing group of them take on Godzilla Tokyo bay back in 1984

Lockpick lawyer of weapons

Diverging from the actual topic of this video slightly, I think that the Japanese 🇯🇵 government and people took a very brave decision to only have a defensive military posture, I realise that the allied political and military occupying forces must have been involved in that decision as well, but still a very brave, but dangerous, position to be in, but with Douglas MacArthur in command of the Supreme Command Allied Powers (SCAP) they were left with little to none “wiggle room” about their decision and the new Japanese constitution. Ok, back to the video, standby for more comments. Without wanting to “trigger” or “ruffle the feathers” of any American viewer’s I am puzzled by the decision of SEPECAT to not allow production, under licence, of the Jaguar, after all the Second World War was still having effects on the economic recovery of European nations and industries, you would have thought that any company would have jumped at the chance for a huge injection of money that a licence would bring them. Now, the controversial opinion, sorry America 🇺🇸, but I have to wonder if the United States Administration put pressure on SEPECAT and the British 🇬🇧 and French 🇫🇷 governments to not enter into a deal to allow Japan to produce the Jaguar, they might have been trying to leave Japan with the only other option available, and that would have been to purchase or license build the T-38 thus making money for the United States aviation industry, but what do I know, I am just an armchair keyboard warrior that is trying hard not to be to controversial in my opinions. I have to agree that there are a lot of similarities with the Jaguar but not so much that anyone could say it was a copy, the view from the rear of both aircraft are very similar and the side profile looks, at a glance, enough like the Jaguar to make it possible to get the identity wrong, but that is about it in my opinion. Thanks for sharing your research and excellent narration with us all, very interesting and informative. Tx. 😀👍🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇺🇦🇮🇱

@user-xt9zt1yv2k

Ай бұрын

Then it must be that the US has not even imagined if Japan would produce its own version of Jaguar possibly with the help of SEPECAT who had discomfort being pressured by the US not to allow license production of Jaguar by Japan. It should be a small victory of Japan and Europe over the US. Now Japan and Europe are overtly cooperating to develop 6 gen fighter jet.

F-4 plus F-5 Or better yet an F-4 ran into the back of an F-5😮

Frame japanische Japan 🇯🇵 made the same F-4 phantom of u.s government

Japan was prohibited to develop aircraft for a long time after her defeat in World War II, and Japanese air industry lagged behind of the United States and Europe. The Mitsubishi T-2 & Mitsubishi F-1 are the first supersonic fighter jets after World War II. However, Japanese can not develop her own mainstay fighter jet yet though 78 years have passed since Japanese unconditional surrender.

Good video. I am not unbiased. I think the Japanese copied the Jaguar like the Chinese do today.

@pheaktra_

5 ай бұрын

man its literally copy license of jaguar

The T-2 is related to the Jag as much as the F15 is related to MiG25 lol

Sadly the almost always unsung heroes of aviation are the ground / maintenance crews. I consider Japan's crews among the top in the world.

Even if it is a "copy product", how can it be compared to CN?The biggest difference is that we will pay the "license fee" exactly. And we create products that are a little easier to use than the original. We are constantly improving (KAIZEN). Let's aim for the "world's highest performance" for the 6th generation machine with JP, UK, IT! もし仮に”コピ－品”だとしてもCNと比べられるのは如何でしょうか、一番の違いは”ライセンス料”はきっちりお支払いいたします。そして、本家より少しばかり”使いやすい”製品を作り出します。日々”改善（KAIZEN)”ですからね。第六世代機はJP、UK、IT、 で”世界最高性能”を目指しましょう！

@SLO722

5 ай бұрын

This JP-UK-IT joint 5th-gen fighter will be a bottomless money pit that will produce a very mediocre product.

You have a weird accent, though you're speaking English but it's hard to comprehend.. 😅😂

japans considered bernoulli principle to calculate lift and used licenced engine so it is a knock-off

Frankly, they probably would have been better off license building the F-5E...

After WW II until now, Japan always become very good boy to Uncle Sam. What uncle sam said Japan will said OKE, nothing else to say.

chinese copying is widespread in aeronautics, nowadays they still lag behind in engines, turbofan blades etc. I heard that the russians seal the engines of the planes they sell to china... Dont know how this would work out really

Obvious influences from the Jaguar and Phantom!

I always loved Japan aircraft camo scheme aircraft and helicopters

GURURUMUZSUN

No doubt a copy or highly inspired. They do this for decades in cars and motor bikes and much more, just simplify, invest in new design but the same heart of the machine. They are smart and South Korea is doing even better