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@habahan4257

Жыл бұрын

My vote for a real man

@olivierpuyou3621

Жыл бұрын

It would be dramatic if this informative channel had to close its doors. I think it would be more "friendly" (convivial) to see a real person but whatever your final decision, I would be very saddened if this channel went out of business. Soutien complet de France.

@k.kavala

Жыл бұрын

Gerçek bir insanın konuyu anlatması daha iyi olur.

@yarmud

Жыл бұрын

​@@habahan4257 women struggle to find a Real Man nowadays how are you going to find one? Yet why not a woman?

@eseetoh

Жыл бұрын

Or u can do something similar like on Binkov's Battlegrounds. Not a sock puppet exactly but a different form of proxy narrator. But what generally is the problem u have now with the off screen narration format?

I recently saw an interview with a former Mirage IV pilot. They were perfectly aware that it was a one-way trip, but the mission took precedence over their survival. I must admit that it still took a lot of balls to fly and get into these planes. This "strategy" of destroying the forces of the Warsaw Pact on German soil was still present with the Pluton and Hades nucléar missiles which only had a range between 450 and 250 km. Fortunately, times have changed. Another great video, thank you.

@yarmud

Жыл бұрын

Why not invest on a long range missile than?

@olivierpuyou3621

Жыл бұрын

@@yarmud There were some they were deployed on the nuclear submarines but a few years later and there were the missiles in silos on the Albion plateau in the center of France. Let's say that the Mirage IV was the first French nuclear component. Then Mirage IV Air Force, SSBN Marine Nationale and missiles from the Plateau d'Albion Army.

@martindione386

Жыл бұрын

@@olivierpuyou3621 is the interview available online? thanks

@charpentierdamien6601

Жыл бұрын

My father did his duty in the French Air Force at that time. At Creil AFB in particular, which hosted the Mirage IV with the atomic bomb on standby. Because he was an officer, he could have lunch with pilots sometimes. He knew the Mirage IV had short legs. He once asked a pilot what was the plan to come back if they had to transport the bomb in USSR. The pilot stoically replied there was no plan... My father's mission was to lead a "section" unit and protect the base. But he and his team did not have access to the area where the Mirage IVs were, that area was protected by the special forces.

@vincentkermorgant

Жыл бұрын

yeah, my uncle flew them for 20 years

What is properly un thinkable is that as we speak, NATO countries are ordering the F-35 en masse, argueing that it is the only aircraft type they can use to drop their B-61 bombs. Conventional bombs, that is, so your amazement at the French nuclear pilots flying one way missions remains a thing of today, just: not for the French, as they are now using an ALCM, the ASMP-A.

@michaelpielorz9283

Жыл бұрын

The F 35 is the biggest mistake in aviation for the last decades. The US is in despereate search for " customers" of this overpriced pice of junk being aware to have been ripped of by the Lockheed complex !!

What a plane indeed. Most of the info in the video where new to me. Great storytelling. Greetings from Greece where we adore the creations from Mr Dassault.

One main point forgotten in this analysis is that the nuclear capacities of France wasn’t only on the Mirage IV’s shoulders : since 1971, Nuclear-powered ballistic missile submarine was in charge of the attack of cities in USSR and/or other places in case of conflict, with more than 3000 kms capacity with the M-20 ballistic missiles. These were complementary systems offering strategic and tacticals capacities, and it’s still the case today with the Rafale. These capacities were also the guarantee to be independant of NATO’s decisions on this matter, and it was considered as an essential goal to achieve this. Mirage IV regardless its primary mission was and remains one of the most beautiful French aircraft.

@jean-yveslg719

Жыл бұрын

There was also an earth missile base in the south of france also launched in 1971 (fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Base_a%C3%A9rienne_200_Apt-Saint-Christol)

@elyw2174

Жыл бұрын

@@jean-yveslg719 yep, you’re right. As the Plateau du Larzac is no more active, I didn’t think about it

@joelcalmet5710

Жыл бұрын

⁠@@elyw2174 SSBS where not based on « plateau du Larzac » wich is in Massif Central Mountains but beneath the Monts du Vaucluse part of South Alpes Mountains.

@khaelamensha3624

Жыл бұрын

As a last warning there was also the nuclear regiments armed with Pluton but it is more tactical nuclear weapons (a concept that always makes me laugh)

@pilou827

3 ай бұрын

@@joelcalmet5710 It is indeed the "Plateau d'Albion" rather than "Plateau du Larzac"

As always, a French beauty!

@Photomosaique

Жыл бұрын

Marcel Dassault Said: When an aircraft is beautiful, it fly well.

What a gorgeous plane. This strategic bomber was not much bigger than a large fighter or interceptor

@olivierpuyou3621

Жыл бұрын

It was literally a Mirage III X2

@StrikeNoir105E

Жыл бұрын

It was only a meter longer than the Mig-25, which was already an enormous fighter. It also looks like a supersized Mirage III, to the point you could confuse one for the other at first glance.

@TheNefastor

Жыл бұрын

It's enormous actually. There's one on display at Le Bourget air museum. EDIT : you can see it refueling at 11:49, this gives a good idea of how big it really is.

@saltypilotchannel8486

Жыл бұрын

I've seen one irl, and its huge i have some photo if you want

@modelcommander9059

Жыл бұрын

I don’t deny it’s still a big plane! I have a small collection of 3d printed aircraft which includes fighters and other strategic bombers, and the size comparison was interesting

Very interesting conclusion on the dissuasion du faible au fort. Thank you for the common sense refuelling details.

France produces beautiful aircraft. Rafale is a cracker . Even the Americans are impressed.

Holy shit I can't believe they made 2000 Mirage variants, insane

@michaelpielorz9283

Жыл бұрын

and I can not believe someone believing that (:-)

@acajutla

Жыл бұрын

They made at least 4000

@patlab555

Жыл бұрын

Not 2000, but 4000... there is a Mirage 4000 😁

@maximilienleroux8950

3 ай бұрын

There was a Mirage G8, that is Mirage 8giga or Mirage 8000000000.

Interesting video with a very interesting conclusion. I like the different view angle of this channel

de Gaulle was incredibly right!

Great video, interesting info on French foreign policy and nuclear policy

@olivierpuyou3621

Жыл бұрын

We have known the humiliation of the occupation. NEVER AGAIN. I read somewhere that Stalin planned to invade Europe but never ever touch France. (Stalin reflections) "the French are crazy, let's leave them alone."

The "Will nuke you as a warning" meme plane.😮

@rienneant7607

Жыл бұрын

"Tearing a paw off the Soviet bear" was basically the central idea. Or, in strategic linguo, making the conquest of France too costly to contemplate for the Soviet Union.

Everything here is accurate. Only one remark : I understood that from Day One pilots liked the plane. It was easy to develop, with minimal bugs and trouble, and very enjoyable to fly. A consequence of Marcel Dassault’s philosophy. Never create a plane from scratch. Always lmove by incremental steps. Otherwise development is a nightmare. See TSR2, Boeing 2707 SST, Gloster Javelin, others.. and for 30 years the Mirage IV was a success since the French never had to use it. Isn’t it the ideal weapon ?

@hwkdfs

Жыл бұрын

You missed the use of the mirage iv as a strategic recon plane. France replaced it by 2000N and Rafale....

@andreteissierducros4756

Жыл бұрын

I know.

@deepskywalker66

9 ай бұрын

This peace of "strategic crap" was impossible to be used for the purpose. Success. 😐

The French B-58.

@youdontsay2529

Жыл бұрын

Pretty much.

@gabork.8715

Жыл бұрын

@@youdontsay2529 Pretty much the same as the cancelled British TSR2 programme. But it eventually came out to the low flying Tornado which did the same job. Now replaced by the F-35.

I don't understand your remark on the necessity to refuel over foreign/allied countries . Was it different for UK's V bombers? Just think about the Palomares accident during in-flight refueling, where did it happen ? And regarding the no-return mission, it was the same for all nations involved in the nuclear deterrence mission.

@druisteen

8 ай бұрын

He's biased ...

what a beautiful airplane. very slick

Interesting about the post-drop plans: Sweden or Turkey, an RAF Vulcan pilot with the same job said that was told that the plan was something like: 'Keep going towards Mongolia and find yourself a nice woman'.

@yannjam6653

Жыл бұрын

Having released the bomb somewhere in the middle of the Soviet Union, Mongolia is not just behind the next ridge line. It's still a long way in the east.

@ronjon7942

9 ай бұрын

@@yannjam6653Yes. Kinda how the joke works.

Another fantastic video...i could watch you for hours if i jad enough time in a day

Fun fact: the mobile part of the air intakes were nicknamed "Mouse" (Souris) in French due to their shape, and iirc were actionned by fuel pressure

10:21 This feels like a huge change to the mission parameters!

Art that could deliver a nuclear weapon! Beautiful aircraft!

Interesting video, thanks!

Very good video, good infomation!!!

The Mirage IV was not a strategic bomber. France called it one, but they knew it would only drop weapons on troops in central Europe to defend their border. A non-strategic bomber that carried strategic weapons. A scary thought. You may forgoe your criticism to realize France was the focal point for two world wars on their soil. Their immediate neighbors have always been strategic allies or strategic enemies. They do not have the geographic advantage to define a grand strategy with long-range bombers.

A beautiful plane!

One of the sexiest planes ever made.

Well, My great uncle was a pilot in the french air force, I am not sure if he flew the mirage 4, but in the family, we were aware of the possibility of a one-way trip to bomb the ussr,

So the French planned to drop nuclear bombs on German soil in order to repel Soviets invaders. Well, that sounds pretty much the same as what the US, and presumably Britain, had in mind as well. And you call this "unthinkable"? It was common knowledge in Germany.

Slt....Merci aux USA pour ce témoignage éloquent de cet Avion magnifique qu'était le Mirage IVA....Cdt

Hi. Thanks for this vidéo. Do the flyman aggree a no way mission? I thinks tey can. Do the mirage IV can run on the west Germany Sky? Certainly. It perform very well against mirage III interceptors squadrons and Can rampage a soviet column. Moscow was not a possible target because it too far. Mirage IV was the first nuclear spear of France : it can to fly to mach 1.8 for 30 minutes. He traines FAS pilots, concorde Pilotes, he was capable of changing his missions profile, ans gave many service in photo missions. His pilots was the first to train in refuelling, strategic flight, and electronics counter mesures. In this ways, it was thé plane of many premières for France.

@olivierpuyou3621

Жыл бұрын

It must have been a good plane if it remained nearly 40 years in service. And then a bomber capable of flying at mach 2.2 there were not many of them in the world.

@josephhaack5711

Жыл бұрын

Bon !

@thomasbessis2809

Жыл бұрын

Behold the franglais, a french tradition

@fabienhyvert2319

Жыл бұрын

@@thomasbessis2809 As english had many french words 😜

intriguing

Haha with all your great Mirage videos, will you make one on the Kfic-C2 too?

Czech Republic of the USSR had to deal with France in case of war, so most likely preemptive strikes would have been done primarily on Czech Republic, not Germany.

much good

Спасибо за рассказ про данный самолёт. Очень не много о нём кто говорит.

The French were cleveŕ, having a bomb and a means of delivering it makes a lot of sense.

Attempt to sell it to the RAAF. I didn't know that. I wonder if that was to replace the Canberras or as a replacement for the delayed F111? Would have been interesting RAAF with the Mirage III and also the Mirage IV.

I don't buy this secret role narrative, The purpose of the Mirage IV as advertised still stands, the use of nuclear weapons on another nuclear power would inevitably result in a "mutually assured destruction" scenario being enacted, The mirage IV's one way range is more than adequate for a mission for which there is no home to return to, by the time the aircraft came into service, the idea of using strategic warheads for tactical use had been generally discarded ,additionaly, why on earth would the French waste resources on making the Pluton tactical warhead launcher if the mirage IV could be used instead, the Pluton's nature fits that "secret role" far better and french cold war army planning seems to fit that idea since the artillery regiments of the 1st, 2nd and 3rd army corps (the sole bearers of Pluton missile in the french armed forces) were all stationed in proximity of the franco-german border en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outline_of_the_French_Army_at_the_end_of_the_Cold_War.

@MadManchou

Жыл бұрын

French doctrine is that the airborne component of the nuclear arsenal (also the ground launched tactical missiles) is for final warning. The weapons have a relatively low yield and would not be used on major cities, thus (in theory) not necessarily provoking a retaliation strike. The point of the strike is to prove France is absolutely determined to nuke any country that threatens it - so they better stop right there or face doom from submarine launched ICBMs, which are much more powerful, and trained on all potential enemies' major population centers.

Externally Mirage looks like a typical jet fighter from 1950-1960s)

If France offered Mirage IV to China, I'm sure they would buy them.

@olivierpuyou3621

Жыл бұрын

Technology over 50 years old? And then is it reasonable to sell such planes to a potential enemy?

@leyasep5919

Жыл бұрын

why "offer" or "buy" when you can steal and copy ? 🙂

@Duron13

Жыл бұрын

​@@olivierpuyou3621 I think he meant at the time.

Una demostración más de que los franceses "van a su bola", da igual las alianzas que hayan suscrito. Ya lo demostraron en los 90, en la guerra de Yugoslavia.

a beautiful machine

Your English is quite good, however native-speakers wouln't say "point sixty-eight meters", in fact any numbers after the decimal point are just read as a string of individual didgets, not 1 whole number as it quickly gets confusing with more didgets (eg saying 0.2865 m as "point two-thousand, eight-hundred and sixty-five"... would be madness!). Rather, we would say "[nought] point six, eight meters", though in that particular case, shifting units slightly and just saying "sixty-eight centimetres" would be far more common.

was the metal body intended as part of a mirror effect camouflage ?

"Dassault", you can pronounce it like "dasso" not "dassu" In French "au" is pronounced "o" and the "lt" after "au" is silent... Don't ask why it is like that...

They are powerful

In the case of a very heated Cold War scenario, wouldn't France be able to relocate to airbases in non nuclear capable NATO countries like Turkey and West Germany? Or relocate to the French territories in the Caribbean and South America, to deter Soviet allies in the region? Is 2500 km from Martinique to Havana in Cuba for instance.

@rienneant7607

Жыл бұрын

From 1966 on (and until 1995 IIRC) France operated outside of NATO's military command so the use of West European/Turkish airbases could hypothetically have been subject to conditions France would not have accepted then.

At the end these were replaced by M2000N in the role of nuclear bomber, anybody knows what's the difference between a 2000N and 2000D... I mean, what equipment does N have that makes it capable of dropping a bomb which D doesn't... are they somehow nuke proof or something...

@mintberrycrunch6657

Жыл бұрын

they're equipped with specific terrain recognition software for low altitude flights

@rienneant7607

Жыл бұрын

Activating a 2000N squadron is a political/diplomatic move as much as a military one, mostly. When you think 2000Ns you think nuclear-tipped ASMPs.

I think the French should have retired the Mirage IV with a variant of the Mirage 4000 instead.

@saltypilotchannel8486

Жыл бұрын

The mirage 2000 can do the same mission for cheaper

@Sacto1654

Жыл бұрын

@@saltypilotchannel8486 But the Mirage 2000 has only a fraction of the range of the old Mirage IV.

@saltypilotchannel8486

Жыл бұрын

@@Sacto1654 yep

France, what a country back then. Great minds and balls. unlike what we have today

Range 4000 km he jubki Sukhoi 30 ki 3000 ferry rangehe

@olivierpuyou3621

Жыл бұрын

Hello citizen of the world. Long live peace and understanding between peoples. greetings from France.

The goal of french strategic weaponry is not to destroy entire USSR but to weakness Moscow's power before their duel with USA. That's why USSR wanted to include french and british nuclear forces in START and SALT negociations. The main reason of france for having independant nuclear bomb was the severe trauma of german occupation in the 40's. Gen. de Gaulle said : "more the suicide than new occupation and civilian war". Excuse me for my poor english. I was a french officer (now retired) involved in nuclear questions. Thanks a lot for your tribute to this fantastic plane which I flew aside.

Madness!? This is France!

@leyasep5919

Жыл бұрын

which got tired of the invasions during WW1 and WW2, so it got a bit proactive.

How was its flight characteristics?

@olivierpuyou3621

Жыл бұрын

It was one of the few aircraft of its time to fly at twice the speed of sound and deliver nuclear death. And excuse me if I'm wrong, the only plane in the world (at the time) that could fly at twice the speed of sound for more than 30 minutes. Now I could be wrong.

@fabienhyvert2319

Жыл бұрын

Mac 2.2, 18000 meter high, for 30 minutes max because the heat limit of 180 degrés because aluminium alloy

@jbg9118

Жыл бұрын

@@olivierpuyou3621 Don't forget the Concorde :)

Would they possibly have a buddy-buddy refuel within their mission to extend their range instead of just go suicide…?

The plan was excellent. Had France nuked the USSR the safest job for a French pilot would have been to fly a jet to Sweden OUT from Russia.

🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩

Dasu?

Its hard to believe France once had a plan like this, to later almost sell Russia aircraft carriers.

@rienneant7607

Жыл бұрын

Helo carriers/Landing ships. The only carrier French exported AFAIK was to Brazil, the old Clemenceau.

Indian mirage jet's recently destroyed Pakistani terrorists base's deep inside POK ...

Could pull up a lawn chair and watch this craft take off and land all day. With some ear muffs.

The part about it having to land in sweden wouldnt work as sweden wasnt (and still isnt ) part of nato....turkey maybe as that is a nato member

@juanmillaruelo7647

Жыл бұрын

DeGaulle took France out of the *Organization*, but remained part of the *alliance*. It also sent packing SHAPE (nato HQ Europe) from Paris to Brussels. French defense became "tous azimuts", that is to say targeted to *any* attack, no attacker was singled out (at least officially). Under François Mitterrand France returned to NATO, the Organization. Until then French defense was officially unattached and independent. French nuclear doctrine remained "franco-française" with no strings attached. The memory of three invasions in two generations was the main reason. The USA nixing the Suez operation was perceived as yet another humiliation. It decided to go it alone. It takes pluck to do something like this.

8 h a g o

@radovandoderovic9179

Жыл бұрын

SLEEP WORK EDUCATION

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@tumslucks9781

Жыл бұрын

Please speak Engalezee.

france vs russia, who will win...

@gabork.8715

Жыл бұрын

France. Russians have more people to sacrifice, and the French have more brains.

@athrunzala6770

Жыл бұрын

nobody I think .. especially if the Russians try to attack the French territory ... but given the results of the Russian army in Ukraine ... we still have time before they arrive in Paris

Just use ICBMs

@rienneant7607

Жыл бұрын

France had land-based IRBMs and sub-launched ICBMs. The Mirage IV offered a somewhat intermediary response, a form of "last warning before going all-in nuclear"

hhj

What plane has replaced the Mirage IV? France would use nuclear weapons on Russians in Germany before the Russians got to France! 😎😇

@martindione386

Жыл бұрын

the Mirage 2000N replaced it

@leneanderthalien

Жыл бұрын

@@martindione386 and now the Rafale (with a nuclear ASMPA supersonic (mach 4) cruise missile)...But the old doctrine to fire nukes to stop soviets on germany is terminated sinze 1993...

Frenchies : Les Comédiens Faible...

@druisteen

8 ай бұрын

l'obésité en Amérique .... un fléau !

A strategic bomber with a short range limitation is a tactical bomber. Another piece of high technological marbel, as the Maginot line was.

@nicolaspeigne1429

Жыл бұрын

the maginot line worked, the problem is France fell before the line did

@pablopeter3564

Жыл бұрын

@@nicolaspeigne1429 You are right, sorry for my lack of knowledge about this point.

@FinsburyPhil

Жыл бұрын

I'm not sure you can say that - the Vulcan was a strategic bomber, but only a medium range, medium bomber; that's all it needed to be to get to western Russia from the UK. It's important not to confuse strategic with intercontinental, which is only really a requirement for the USA and Russia.

@808bigisland

Жыл бұрын

You are correct. The West-German, GDR and Poland was the target. French did not trust the US. The Swiss bought the Mirage as a tactical nuclear strike bomber…they were ready to assemble nukes at short notice.

@rienneant7607

Жыл бұрын

Logistically speaking the Maginot line allowed the French army to cover 2/3 of the eastern border with 1/3 of the troops which made a lot of sense when you are a 39-million people country facing a 77-million one nd you need the manpower to cover the non-fortified part of the border. Defensive lines still had (and have to this day) their uses, as proven in 1944 Italy or 2023 Ukraine. The real issue was the French generals' inability to envision a more mobile form of warfare despite warning *coughignoringDeGaullecoughcough*

If you think it's the new Maginot line, what about the UK Vulcan!? LOL clown

Background music is annoying thumbs down

what a complete failure of a concept. beauty only goes so far.

@druisteen

8 ай бұрын

France has accepted the need for refuel, to limit costs. The submarines becoming the number 1 priority , that's a smart move . But i guess you didn't know for the subs ☺