Michael Shellenberger: How Progressives Threaten Cities

As 2021 came to a close, questions about crime and homelessness in San Francisco dominated headlines locally and nationally. In addition to high-profile smash-and-grab robberies in San Francisco's Union Square and malls outside the city, the publication of Michael Shellenberger's new book, San Fransicko: Why Progressives Ruin Cities, also drew attention to increasing disorder on San Francisco's streets; the book and its arguments received attention across the political spectrum from media around the World.
A Bay Area resident for more than 30 years, Shellenberger says progressive policies are, in good part, the reason for homelessness and crime in San Francisco (and similar cities on the West Coast). From homeless encampments to open-air drug markets and retail robberies, he says progressive leaders have gone beyond merely tolerating these issues and now actively enable them through specific public policy choices by urban lawmakers and district attorneys. Shellenberger believes that urban problems such as homelessness and drug dealing aren't primarily from a lack of housing, money for social programs or other "root causes." Instead, he feels the real problem is an ideology that designates some people, by identity or experience, as victims entitled to destructive behaviors and a hands-off approach to law enforcement that coddles them. The result, he says, is an undermining of the values that make cities, and civilization itself, possible.
Please join us as Shellenberger makes one of his first local public appearances to discuss his controversial book and the new crime policies launched in San Francisco.
NOTES
This program is supported by the Ken & Jaclyn Broad Family Fund. Complimentary copies of Shellenberger’s San Fransicko will be available to in-person attendees thanks to their support.
Photo by Gabriel Harber.
JANUARY 24, 2022
SPEAKERS
Michael Shellenberger
Founder and President, Environmental Progress; Author, San Fransicko: Why Progressives Ruin Cities
Melissa Caen
Political Analyst; Attorney-Moderator
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  • @theunshaved1
    @theunshaved12 жыл бұрын

    I was born and raised in the Bay Area, lived in the Tenderloin in San Francisco for 15 years, and was addicted to heroin in the 90s. I was lucky to get out of that lifestyle. There are so many reasons why this problem festers in exclusively liberal/progressive cities. Progressives (generally) enable bad behavior and put more emphasis on policies with good intentions rather than good results. Then when those policies don't work, or even make the problem worse, they'll claim their adversaries don't care. Progressives love to virtue signal, from NO NUKES bumper stickers to I SUPPORT UKRAINE banners on their Facebook profile pic, the irony is that they're far more close minded, uninformed, and self righteous than the conservatives they despise.

  • @kinghenry238

    @kinghenry238

    2 жыл бұрын

    More than the conservatives? Would this have been true 5 years ago or do you think the Republicans have been reformed?... Or have the Dems just got that far off the deep end?

  • @sdfswords

    @sdfswords

    Жыл бұрын

    Very well articulated!

  • @Lisa-my5sy

    @Lisa-my5sy

    5 ай бұрын

    This is nothing but facts

  • @banditnip0345
    @banditnip03452 жыл бұрын

    When I became homeless in the 70's & 80's as a result of my alcohol & crack addiction. I lived alone in a patch of public woods in my wal-mart dome tent in my wino encampment. Then I went & got the help I needed at the Veteran's Domicillary in Bedford Massachusetts. There they addressed my addiction problems with a combination of medications & individual & group therapy. I eventually got sober & have been paying rent for the past 15 years & have 9 years sobriety. People need to get physically well first and then the counseling & therapy can work. It can be done.

  • @copernicansun744
    @copernicansun7442 жыл бұрын

    Two words to describe this interview - common sense. The echo chamber's walls are so thick it takes someone of Shellenbergers bona fides to break through to liberals on things the rest of us have seen as obvious for years by just opening our eyes. Kudos to Commonwealth Club for hosting this interview even though the critique points directly at their core audience. I for one will continue to follow your schedule if you have the courage to continue to invite alternative voices to the table that may cut against the progressive/leftist/liberal ideology.

  • @darbyheavey406

    @darbyheavey406

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nothing he says is new…if he were a GOP Senator he would be described as a Nazi.

  • @melflo4651

    @melflo4651

    Жыл бұрын

    I thought “common sense” is one word?

  • @Will111ism

    @Will111ism

    Жыл бұрын

    Well said 👏 from #Scotland

  • @connieatkinson418
    @connieatkinson4182 жыл бұрын

    Michael Shellenberger is a most honorable, compassionate, honest straight shooter. This is the kind of liberal conservatives can admire, respect, and work with. He is truly a well-wisher of all humankind. God bless his work.

  • @theholepicture

    @theholepicture

    6 ай бұрын

    As a conservative I love articulate former democrats that can speak to democrats without the vitriol democrats have given me. As a kid I flirted with Jerry Rubin's marxism for a very short time till I saw the giant flaws by 18 years old.

  • @MrMet-ih5jv
    @MrMet-ih5jv2 жыл бұрын

    This was great to watch. I moved from Miami to the Bay Area last year and while there’s no denying California geographically is a beautiful state, the homelessness and amount of trash in the city (SF,San Jose, Oakland) is like nothing over seen. I will definitely buy Michaels book

  • @concernedcitizen1729

    @concernedcitizen1729

    Жыл бұрын

    Just curious what made you move? I only ask because theres a lot of talk of people moving in the opposite direction. Trying to see how much is just propaganda and whats real. I moved to the Miami area and was surprised by how little the crime makes national news but its definitely on local.

  • @bevatkey4206
    @bevatkey42062 жыл бұрын

    I have bought and read your book, but was so powerful to hear you put it into words. I'm from Vancouver BC and there is much we can learn and apply here as well. Thank you for your hard work, insights, great explanations and enthusiasm for this subject!

  • @angeleculbertson1755
    @angeleculbertson17552 жыл бұрын

    So, instead of tax payer dollars going to help people defeat their addiction, we are paying to support their addiction and to help dealers distribute their drugs. This is insane!

  • @mandywhorwal642
    @mandywhorwal6422 жыл бұрын

    It's sad that he has to prove he's a liberal with a 10 minute resume before anyone will listen to him. Just be aware, folks, of what it takes to get people who think like this to wake up. Give government all your money.. what could possibly go wrong?

  • @angeleculbertson1755

    @angeleculbertson1755

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's also funny that the host says we can't really argue with all of the statistics in this book, but when conservatives come with statistics and facts, progressives call names and try to shout them down.

  • @darbyheavey406

    @darbyheavey406

    2 жыл бұрын

    I was of a similar view after I saw homeless people freeze to death on the streets of Philadelphia in the 1980s. The same people came into the ER every few weeks and then they would come as an OD or an exposure death. I one set up a ventilator so we could raise his body temp to a range where we could legally declare him dead. If this guy was a conservative this would get zero attention unless they called him a bigot.

  • @wilhouts6173

    @wilhouts6173

    Жыл бұрын

    …”give the government all your money, what could go wrong.” Yes, but what about a Flat 10% tax/Fair/Reasonable tax base in order to have a functioning Representative Government. Doesn’t have to either/or.

  • @TheJustina102085

    @TheJustina102085

    Жыл бұрын

    Exactly; when recommending his book I find myself giving a preface statement that describes Shellenberger’s political history in order to give it credibility..

  • @lordrichardson4447

    @lordrichardson4447

    Жыл бұрын

    ive seen several people refer to this guy as a far right extremist. its super sad. and pathetic. They are completely brainwashed

  • @waynr
    @waynr2 жыл бұрын

    I often feel conflicted when it comes to problems around drug use and homelessness. I've always leaned pretty far left of center despite growing up in a very conservative family and community so I often have to really work to suppress some of my built-in conservative biases, especially when it comes to matters of social vs individual responsibility. I often hold my tongue in conversations with more radical leftists because they are perfectly willing to ostracize those who don't kowtow to their ideological biases when it comes to policy matters like this. I am always a bit conflicted internally. It was nice to listen to this seemingly fact-based discussion of the problem. I'm also a big fan of Shellenberger's views on nuclear energy.

  • @theunshaved1

    @theunshaved1

    2 жыл бұрын

    Keep going brother and don't hold your tongue. That's how we lose.

  • @Rocchio753

    @Rocchio753

    2 жыл бұрын

    If you can’t speak your mind amongst your crowd without receiving vitriol and being ostracized, your crowd is in a cult.

  • @david8905

    @david8905

    2 жыл бұрын

    " I often have to really work to suppress some of my built-in conservative biases..." Are they biases or simply values? What is wrong with conservative values?

  • @Yagetwhatyavoted4

    @Yagetwhatyavoted4

    Жыл бұрын

    @@david8905 nothing. Absolutely nothing is wrong with having a set of moral values, regardless of what you identify as politically. A value system should never be projected as politically based. I’m perfectly fine admitting the fact that many liberals live life following a set of values that are good for fellow man. The problem always arises when someone has a disagreement in political views and then that person is labeled as in compassionate or ignorant of others problems. Why?

  • @lizicadumitru9683

    @lizicadumitru9683

    Жыл бұрын

    @@david8905 Biases stem from values

  • @pbkelly3
    @pbkelly32 жыл бұрын

    Great conversation about one of California’s most intractable problems. Bravo to the CC and M Schellenberger!

  • @commonwealthclubworldaffairs

    @commonwealthclubworldaffairs

    2 жыл бұрын

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  • @deniseboudreau3778
    @deniseboudreau3778 Жыл бұрын

    We need someone to promote this book in Canada. I live in a city that has all the earmarks of pathological altruism. Currently taking steps to soften the police force. Handing out free needles, creating "hubs" for the homeless to have access to more and more services. The homeless population is becoming aggressive despite millions of dollars in social services streamlining through a community which is now being destroyed. A housing First initiative right in my backyard with plans for major expansion. All of this without any public consultation. It just perpetuates and feeds the social system and all those who benefit by keeping addicts high. There does not seem to be any recourse for lost businesses or lost property values when entire neighbourhoods experience this slow death process. But how do you dismantle a government that purports to show compassion and in so doing, makes the social atmosphere much worse? They are stuck on ideologies and will not step down.

  • @BoddickerOCP
    @BoddickerOCP2 жыл бұрын

    Excellent talk. We need more people to tell it like it is and use facts rather than ideology to guide policy.

  • @commonwealthclubworldaffairs

    @commonwealthclubworldaffairs

    2 жыл бұрын

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  • @manonamission3244

    @manonamission3244

    2 жыл бұрын

    The ideology that drugs are more harmful than mass incarceration and disenfranchisement is absurd. Where was the gang violence before drug prohibition? Alcohol created mafias, narcotics make cartels. Legalization is the only common sense approach. Else, why not extend it, prohibit cigarettes and sugar, see how that goes.

  • @jamesbarlow6423

    @jamesbarlow6423

    2 жыл бұрын

    Americans don't want to know how it is

  • @voyowee
    @voyowee2 жыл бұрын

    Such an important book. Enjoyed the conversation.

  • @commonwealthclubworldaffairs

    @commonwealthclubworldaffairs

    2 жыл бұрын

    You can catch more upcoming programs here: www.commonwealthclub.org/online Thanks for watching!

  • @jbp122
    @jbp122 Жыл бұрын

    It’s interesting that the moderator mentioned that she was only open to reading the book after she realized the author was a liberal.

  • @danielgorz7594
    @danielgorz75942 жыл бұрын

    I am a conservatively leaning Moderate and I wanna say thanks for posting this interview. It was eye opening! I agree with nearly everything this man said. Excellent Talk! This proves my thought, we need more moderate policies!

  • @UNCIVILIZE
    @UNCIVILIZE Жыл бұрын

    Glad to see Michael working on the Twitter Files. Thank you.

  • @banditnip0345
    @banditnip03452 жыл бұрын

    My 30 year old neighbor is a gang unit cop and is the most caring & kind person that I know.

  • @rpdaley0
    @rpdaley02 жыл бұрын

    As a moderate leaning right, I found everything you said to be right in line with how I believe we need to tackle this issue. Love your talk and the fact that the audience welcomed what you said was great!

  • @manonamission3244

    @manonamission3244

    2 жыл бұрын

    Legalization makes more sense than incarceration. Black markets mean violence and poverty are guaranteed outcomes.

  • @carriersailor2474

    @carriersailor2474

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@manonamission3244 You just have missed his discussion on how the Skandies and Portugal have gone through all this already. We see the mess of the addiction issue. We have the history of alcohol prohibition due to how much problems booze causes - and happily, the other drugs are not as culturally bound to us as booze, or we'd be totally messed up. Those Euro countries showed that the "dream" of legalizing drugs completely simply doesnt work. This talk makes plenty of sense, and if you listen to it again, you'll get this, if you are not too wedded to that "legalize all drugs" dream.

  • @johnfranklin8319

    @johnfranklin8319

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@carriersailor2474 Legalizing drugs will without doubt, create more addicts, period. Bad idea.

  • @lordrichardson4447

    @lordrichardson4447

    Жыл бұрын

    @@carriersailor2474 agreed. This just woudlnt work in our society. I think that once upon a time we possibly could have legalized all drugs, just cause people were much more put together as human beings and I think we could have potentially been responsible with it, but not today.

  • @justmyopinion9883
    @justmyopinion9883 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for sharing this informative conversation. I will look for Michael Schellenberger's book at the library; it should be a great read.

  • @theother1406
    @theother14062 жыл бұрын

    Rents practically tripled over night in 2002 in San Diego. I was a single mom with a toddler. I was born in San Diego and so was my child. I would like to see a "Birth right" law with deep discounts on rent. I have resented off and on all my life all of the transplants that would come and go and the rich ones stayed and exploited, gentrified. I have to live in a po-dunk desert town in the next red state over, I'm not a happy camper. I guess we'll all take turns getting a taste of what the Native Americans felt.

  • @cristianion2056

    @cristianion2056

    2 жыл бұрын

    Probably if SAN DIEGO GIVE MORE PERMITS TO BUILD MORE 🏠 RENT WOULD BE CHEAPER. BUT SOMEHOW ONLY SOME OF CONSERVATIVES DO THAT

  • @theother1406

    @theother1406

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@cristianion2056 I've never, ever heard of any "conservative" care about anyone other than their own tribe and themselves.

  • @maximusthemerciful9452

    @maximusthemerciful9452

    Жыл бұрын

    @@theother1406 yet lots of Californians moving to red states because they can’t take it here anymore. Funny how that works. Liberals running to states with less regulation.

  • @tomwright9904

    @tomwright9904

    10 ай бұрын

    I suspect the solution might be to move more states over....

  • @stevehoughton3854
    @stevehoughton38542 жыл бұрын

    Terrific speech….humanity grounded in realism!

  • @mm5478
    @mm54782 жыл бұрын

    I'm a liberal democrat and have been all my life. Grew up in the Sunset District. Mr. Shellberger's thesis is absolutely correct.

  • @theglanconer6463
    @theglanconer64632 жыл бұрын

    Thank you. I just wish people would open their eyes and see what they are doing to their children, to the (partly broken down) society, the addicted, the poor, the mentally ill and the next (party indoctrinated) generation. Virtue signalling doesn't save lives, aux contraire; it kills.

  • @kinghenry238

    @kinghenry238

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes.... Hopefully his next book??

  • @hamm0155
    @hamm01552 жыл бұрын

    Excellent talk, very strong points!!

  • @user-ph1gu2jb5b
    @user-ph1gu2jb5b5 ай бұрын

    This is a wonderful man, I am so moved that he would care so deeply about our outcast. I call them"our" because they are our neighbors. God bless you Michael. Bless you.

  • @SASA-il3wt
    @SASA-il3wt2 жыл бұрын

    Michael Shellenberger for California governor. Next election June 7, 2022.

  • @banditnip0345
    @banditnip03452 жыл бұрын

    They could learn by the model the Veteran's Administration has in Homeless Domicillary Programs where they combine (Work Therapy) & physical, phyciatric & addiction therapy. It worked for me & many other homeless veterans. I went through it in 1994 and here in 2022 I'm 65 years old & happily sober 9 years now from everything with no meds needed at all.

  • @tgirard123
    @tgirard1237 ай бұрын

    We just moved to Portland Oregon and a lot of what's happening in San Francisco is happening here. Luckily, they're starting to see some of the consequences in San Francisco and the city is starting to make significant change here. We'll see...

  • @jm-ig2mq
    @jm-ig2mq Жыл бұрын

    After being a big fan of his 'Apocalypse Never' book, I've just discovered he wrote this. Ordered it immediately. I imagine it's as no-nonsense, factual and eye opening as his work on environmentalism. Can't recommend enough.

  • @em-dy3hn
    @em-dy3hn2 жыл бұрын

    We need someone like you in Canada too!

  • @Will111ism
    @Will111ism Жыл бұрын

    Subbed & liked 👍 Ty GB this shakey #World

  • @JohnnyB719
    @JohnnyB719 Жыл бұрын

    Guys like this should be running things

  • @ryannichols5352
    @ryannichols5352 Жыл бұрын

    Wonderful interview. He touches on many aspects of the landscape - he is well researched. The paradox to the problem(s) is that those with the power are consumed with their own vision of personal success - hence Cal is just a stepping stone for them.

  • @em-dy3hn
    @em-dy3hn2 жыл бұрын

    THANK YOU!

  • @PatrickFerryCoach
    @PatrickFerryCoach2 жыл бұрын

    He is such a good thinker and expressing good ideas great ... thank you!!!

  • @oregoneyes6673
    @oregoneyes66732 жыл бұрын

    So many cogent thoughts in so little time. Thank you.

  • @travisbitters7964
    @travisbitters79642 жыл бұрын

    Thank You!

  • @jodihouts6032
    @jodihouts6032 Жыл бұрын

    I personally believe they should fire the top 10% "earners" of the homeless programs, and promote the "workers" with parameters of successful improvements for continuing in those positions. The way it is set up now, individual "success" is achieved by continuing or expanding the problem.

  • @Iluvpaws_1
    @Iluvpaws_19 ай бұрын

    Blaming Reagan for de institutionalization is such a trope. He was forced by bad court rulings. I’m glad someone finally came out w the truth-we can blame the mad rights movement for much of the homeless problem

  • @narayanprasad4008
    @narayanprasad40082 жыл бұрын

    My understanding is that drug addicts do not want to be in shelters , preferring to be on the streets . Shelters are monitored and there are rules and regulations there that affects don't like . They want to ge allowed to use drugs as and when they please .

  • @bobthebuilder9553
    @bobthebuilder9553 Жыл бұрын

    Wish they hadn't prefaced this with a Gavin Newsom ad.

  • @hazeluzzell
    @hazeluzzell2 жыл бұрын

    The interviewer has a very strange attitude…

  • @narayanprasad4008
    @narayanprasad40082 жыл бұрын

    But , the speaker does not address the elephant in the room . Why do we have so many drug addicts ? Poor parenting , breakdown of family units , single parents unable to provide moral guidance ? Why is our govt not tackling drug supply ?

  • @patshelby9285

    @patshelby9285

    Жыл бұрын

    Two much profit for too many donors?

  • @g7wilson
    @g7wilson2 жыл бұрын

    Excellent.

  • @banditnip0345
    @banditnip03452 жыл бұрын

    We can attend city and town hall meetings to give suggestions about things that have worked for us.

  • @shokuchideirdrecarrigan7402
    @shokuchideirdrecarrigan74026 ай бұрын

    In the mid-70’s an ex-mental patients group (self-identified) called NAPA organized around a film called “Hurry Tomorrow” which played at the Clay Theatre with the intention of closing Napa State hospital and others and legally ending forced drugging of mental patients. In 1976 they staged a sit in in Gov. Brown’s office and showed him the film. Gov Brown seemed to come on board, with the intention of closing the hospitals and opening community care centers. Eventually the hospitals closed but Brown was followed by a string of Republican govs and the community care centers never opened. Laws were changed to protect the right to refuse treatment. What Reagan did as President was end government funded employment programs. Simultaneously SF mayor Feinstein entered into the “Manhattanization” of SF driving up housing prices. Also Hong Kong investors looking for a new place to put their wealth because Hong Kong was reverting to China began buying up SF properties, building apartment buildings on single family lots, and charging greatly increased rents. During that decade rental housing (mine) went from $250 for a Richmond district house to $1200 for an outer mission house. During that decade, homelessness became a huge problem throughout the nation and in San Francisco. By the way for those who did have jobs, wages did not increase for middle and low income folks. All of this preceded tech. Haven’t read Sicko but I hear nothing of the history I witnessed and experienced from 1973 to 2005 which is when I left. SF is still a beautiful city but it is a very much changed. Sadly.

  • @onederb71nln83
    @onederb71nln83 Жыл бұрын

    Problem is I live in a small suburb mid-low class. None of my friends or co workers care enough to read a book or watch a interview like this, I barley know anyone that really reads during their free time at all. In the same manner most of them could figure out how to get a print to work with a laptop.

  • @UNCIVILIZE
    @UNCIVILIZE Жыл бұрын

    As regards requiring accountability from those receiving benefits - You said that's what they actually need and I agree. This is a crisis of spirit too. Every Human needs purpose and to prove themselves and to be accountable. That's part of what's missing and part of how we ended up here in the first place. No one really wants to be a victim. So, well said. Few people understand this part.

  • @Malignus68
    @Malignus682 жыл бұрын

    My favorite observation from Shellenberger's book: People like Oprah, Dr. Phil, Joyce Meyer...they make millions by telling their audience, "It's within your power to improve your life, you should be trying to do so, and here's a seemingly endless number of way you can begin"...but say those same words to a high school drop-out, or pregnant teen, or drug addict, or homeless person, and you'll invoke the fiery wrath of every progressive in this country.

  • @travishall6442
    @travishall64422 жыл бұрын

    As a former drug addict, the war on drugs has been a good thing and should continue

  • @adamhauskins6407

    @adamhauskins6407

    2 жыл бұрын

    It will ,treatment/human storage will just be added to it but law enforcement will continue even if legalization sloves most of the problems caused by vice

  • @lordrichardson4447
    @lordrichardson4447 Жыл бұрын

    Did she just really ask if he interviewed homesless people over zoom? cause she cant imagne actually going to meet with one face to face? wtf lol

  • @wilhouts6173
    @wilhouts6173 Жыл бұрын

    Public housing is still more efficient than incarceration housing for $100,000 to $400,000 each, with little or no rehabilitation. Social programs Can include social workers and drug programs to assist those ready for an increased Quality of Life.

  • @charles597

    @charles597

    Жыл бұрын

    Providing housing without enforcing the law just leads to said housing being destroyed and going to waste. Drug dens is all that would result.

  • @thequietpoet
    @thequietpoet Жыл бұрын

    Michael: Nobody wants mass incarceration? My little devil's voice on my shoulder says "Your 401K wants mass incarceration".

  • @Leann68
    @Leann682 жыл бұрын

    You lost me on the heroin and Methadone argument, Methadone works it’s just the methadone clinics push to high dosage of Methadone maintenance.

  • @KITCHENCOOKIEJARTHIEF
    @KITCHENCOOKIEJARTHIEF2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Michael

  • @jennysteves7226
    @jennysteves7226 Жыл бұрын

    I live in a small town where rents are high, rentals scarce, and winters are frigid. There is no homeless shelter in our town. The closest shelter is in a city 20 miles away and it is dirty and dangerous, with no warm space nearby to spend each day. I’ve befriended two people who are presently without a home in our town. Neither are addicts; one has occasional anger issues. Both worked full time until their bodies gave out and they were let go. Fast food jobs don’t cover rent and food in our town. Perhaps Michael’s profile of homelessness fits best in large liberal cities with survivable winters. It is a poor match for our small town. And yes, we have addiction and mental health issues here, too. Sign of the times. Still, I plan to read San Fransicko .. I’m glad the homeless problem in this large US city has been effectively nuanced. p.s. I don’t buy the nuclear power solution but I fully embrace the green illusions of wind, solar etc. We are witnessing signs of civilization decline and possible collapse, as they all eventually do. Nuclear waste in a collapsing civilization is a bad idea. Our real predicaments of ecological overshoot, overpopulation, fossil fuel gluttony and dependence, increased polarization and the rich-poor divide etc have been largely ignored. Climate change, which is a result of our predicaments rather than a cause, is an easy focus and profit capture for our corporate run world.

  • @notloki3377
    @notloki33776 ай бұрын

    legend has it one day, micheal shellenberger will fill his power meter to the max setting and turn into matt walsh.

  • @megg.6651
    @megg.66515 ай бұрын

    Michael Shellenberger for PRESIDENT!!

  • @wilhouts6173
    @wilhouts6173 Жыл бұрын

    I understood ‘de-funding’ the police to mean ‘re-allocate’ funding to include Social Workers to handle domestic disturbances…backed up by the police. So, I guess, it would be the re-allocating the funding now used to buy the ‘last years’ Military Hardware/Tanks for our city streets.! I agree, shutting down Police precincts is Not the way. Better, more up-to-date Training of Police to deal better with the current needs is crucial.

  • @singjosingsing
    @singjosingsing Жыл бұрын

    Hospitals are financially decimated from the pandemic of the last 2 years. I’m not sure where this surplus is, but it is unsustainable to spend a ton of money on non-compliant patients. You do know the Netherlands has comfort-centered treatment before health problems are end-stage. This will always be deemed unethical here.

  • @banditnip0345
    @banditnip03452 жыл бұрын

    Lakeland Florida has a city ordinance if you get caught urinating in the public, you get a 3 day jail sentance. Some people like that because they will be getting 3 hots & a cot in jail.

  • @briancam_2000
    @briancam_2000 Жыл бұрын

    GREAT BOOK! HARVEY MILK AND JIM JONES NEVER KNEW THE CONNECTION.

  • @garyheaton3637
    @garyheaton36372 жыл бұрын

    The recurring theme in this speech is that when confronted by uncomfortable facts the first things liberals do is ask if a conservative person is giving the information.

  • @lieshtmeiser5542

    @lieshtmeiser5542

    Жыл бұрын

    Thats how it goes these days. Us conservatives are treated with derision for having faith, and having values, but yet the facts speak for themselves...

  • @lordrichardson4447

    @lordrichardson4447

    Жыл бұрын

    @@lieshtmeiser5542 its pretty crazy to see this happening today. Currently, its the right, conservatives who are the tolerant side, they are far more accepting of different perspectives and different people. Speaking generally of course. obviously their are people on the extreme edges with the right as well, but it seems much of the entire left are extremist.

  • @whatwouldjohngaltdo1409
    @whatwouldjohngaltdo14092 жыл бұрын

    Glad he’s running now!

  • @siobhanstrauss8492
    @siobhanstrauss8492 Жыл бұрын

    I’m addicted to chocolate donuts and coffee atm

  • @kevintischer263
    @kevintischer2632 жыл бұрын

    I have been a follower of Michael for some time. I agree with many of his points and I particularly appreciate how he was truthful acknowledging that there is in fact no climate crisis. I also admire his courage and conviction endorsing nuclear power - something I have been championing for decades. My issue is - who is this interviewer? She is a poor at interviewing (I do not think she is totally prepared - I do not believe she read the book) and brings nothing to this forum. Am I wrong?

  • @artneville5994
    @artneville5994 Жыл бұрын

    Michael: please run for governor!

  • @stevewheeler6118
    @stevewheeler6118 Жыл бұрын

    As a Conservative, this is a breath of fresh air. Both Liberals and Conservatives have allowed our debates about what we disagree upon to degenerate into name calling and abuse. We have allowed our desire to wield power and enforce our will to obscure all that we hold in common. As a result, the country is adrift, and our most radical elements dominate the conversation, which is no longer a conversation at all but a shouting match. Our genius in the United States is for compromise and negotiation in good faith. I pray that the political center can seize control from the fringe elements for whom politics is a zero sum game.

  • @wilhouts6173
    @wilhouts6173 Жыл бұрын

    Yes, good/wise use of Incentives has been the way Government ( at least the Federal) has moved people/corporations/the military in the desired direction. Can Tax high, give rebates.

  • @johnfranklin8319
    @johnfranklin83192 жыл бұрын

    Disfunction wasn’t the cause of Skunkworks at Lockheed, it was a top secret program in 1943 to build the first jet plane for the US Military and the lack of floor space made them come up with a circus tent to shield the project from anyone inside or outside the company that didn’t have the security clearance.

  • @gggnumber1
    @gggnumber12 жыл бұрын

    OMG, that was one, maybe the only, conservative joke that was actually very funny; "Gavin Newsome pledges to get to the bottom of 'Who's in charge of California.' " On a related note, it always amazes me when the CEO or similar is being questioned and the answer is something like, "I don't know." There are lots of variations to that answer, all of which are annoying. If the person, supposedly, running the company doesn't know, ....... just Who does. Yes, that's right, Who. Dooh!

  • @adacasas511
    @adacasas511 Жыл бұрын

    The flirtatious giggles of the moderator, Melissa Caen, are markedly inappropriate, given the topic. Very insensitive and of course obvious. Mr. Shalellenbergers wife might agree. So disrespectful! Smh

  • @kinghenry238
    @kinghenry2382 жыл бұрын

    Ahhh equal protection under the law. One of the biggest issues in our age and it is finally brought up by a candidate. With that and reasonable requirements for housing aid, this gubernatorial canidate is looking good.

  • @alisabown8175
    @alisabown81752 жыл бұрын

    I'm so impressed with Michael's work. Not impressed with the interviewer. A good interviewer asks poignant questions and fades into the background. She enjoys the stage too much.

  • @robertasirgutz8800
    @robertasirgutz8800 Жыл бұрын

    Cities require governance, and policy. We have to use the vote. We've been here before. NY State suddenly closed ALL State mental hospitals, now they're on our streets.

  • @markmiddaugh9359
    @markmiddaugh93592 жыл бұрын

    I went to Cuba in 2001 thru Global Exchange.

  • @banditnip0345
    @banditnip03452 жыл бұрын

    Housing first is a recepie for disaster . If you do it, you'll be seeing alot of overdoses and fires caused by irresponsible mulled up tenants who haven't worked on sobriety.

  • @kristinadutton3259
    @kristinadutton3259 Жыл бұрын

    He’s on the right track in some ways, but his ideas are also a bit conflated- or perhaps his presentation of the issues is a little convoluted. Definitely an over generalization of progressive thinking around these things- it is problematic but some of it is also extremely helpful. Stanford Prof Robert Sapolsky is a liberal who talks about abolishing the criminal justice system as it stands now, but the reasons Sapolsky gives for why and how we would rework the system is far from what SF’s policies look like now, and also different than traditional models. There IS thinking out there that makes sense, but given the complexity of political dynamics it takes time to achieve these things, and going back to old ways isn’t always the answer. I say this as a Bay Area citizen with a schizophrenic sister living in the midwest. I don’t see good much in the way of good models for the mentally ill in really any of our states or cities.

  • @wilhouts6173
    @wilhouts6173 Жыл бұрын

    yes, the Victim Ideology is an unbalanced approach. Limits & boundaries with rewards for accomplishments and progress is how we all learn and grow. How do we improve that system.?

  • @Johnconno
    @Johnconno9 ай бұрын

    It's good that they all live in California.

  • @johnmcpherson5068
    @johnmcpherson5068 Жыл бұрын

    Unlike the intelligent highly educated and superior folks who govern cities like San Francisco I don't have to fly into the Sun to know that it is not a good idea. They and their entire philosophical outlook on life has played itself out. In San Francisco and other like governed cities throughout the country. When you consider yourself one of the smartest people in the room it is very difficult to accept that you can be so utterly totally completely wrong. Too bad. I live in a state in the northeast that's pretty Damn blue. But our corner is that bit of sanity and still red or at least pure. My heart goes out to the millions forced to live in the big cities on the west coast. You can chose to leave in the end. Many have already done so. Just remember what happened to your states and cities. Leave your.politics behind. Hard work and taking accountability for yourself never hurt anyone. Only you can accept that you are a victim. You don't have to be. Life is often not fair or pleasant. Okay 1st grade is over schools out. "Wake" up.

  • @lieshtmeiser5542

    @lieshtmeiser5542

    Жыл бұрын

    How anyone in America is voting Democrat in this day n age is beyond me. The Democrats are so antithetical to American values these days. Its not even simply about welfare, or more medicare or something; because normal middle class voters have always found that appealing, it is that the democrats are so contaminated by radical leftism that it is basically just mindless identity politics at this point. And then the elephant in the room: Biden was the best they had to offer the american people...

  • @wilhouts6173
    @wilhouts6173 Жыл бұрын

    YES, the three P’s. We can fix/improve How we do things. Technology is available to help us make this next evolutionary step to improve our society/civilization. Disfunction/imbalance is the pain motivation to more away from no long works….as we work together on it.🌞

  • @hollyhold6960
    @hollyhold6960 Жыл бұрын

    Police presence definitely curtains crime. Of course.

  • @barbarabrooks4747
    @barbarabrooks47472 жыл бұрын

    Many of the homeless have relatives who really cafe, but they don't have the means of knowledge to set up a conssrvatorship for their mentally ill and/or addicted relative. People need cheap or free assistance to get a conssrvatorship so that they can force their loved ones into treatment. It's much more humane to having caring relatives make these decisions, rather than the state. Police could then enforce the contractor's orders and take the person to either the public hospital for detox or treatment or a private facikity. Many mentally people will take their meds if they know that they will be forced to return to a mental hospital according to their parents opinion of need, rather than having to be an immediate danger to self or others.

  • @tomwright9904

    @tomwright9904

    10 ай бұрын

    So... in all of this you have to consider the existence of single episode psychosis and the extreme side effects of antipsychotics and potentially damaging effects of state interventions. There are two British entertainers Paul Merton and homeland actor David Harewood both of whom experienced psychosis and both of whom to my knowledge recovered without medication and could have had their lives greatly harmed by compulsory medication. The way things work in the UK is that you often have a measure of revolving door detention and forced drugging. Where people will get detained held for 1 to three months get put on medd then released and stop taking meds. It may be better than alternatives

  • @negativeionz
    @negativeionz Жыл бұрын

    I spent a year volunteering in Seattle a little over 10 years ago in a "transitional housing" facility with a lot of exposure to recently homeless people trying to get housing services there. I have about 10 years of edu in psychology and neurobio. It was not 100% 10ish years ago it was like 50% of those people were neurotic as fuck or addicts. Maybe 75% tops. A lot of them just had horrible life experiences that lead them there. This makes me suspect of anything else he says. If you're looking at complex human behavior and your results are "everyone is 100%" in a group as large as The US homeless population, you're not doing research. But you might be a cultural anthropologist pretending to do it.

  • @jodihouts6032

    @jodihouts6032

    Жыл бұрын

    Listen again please. He didn't say 100% homeless, he said 100% those entrenched in encampments.

  • @thomaspassmore3455
    @thomaspassmore3455 Жыл бұрын

    Is there a lot of Poo 💩 on the sidewalks in San Francisco? I might have to go there soon and don't want to step in someone else's Pooo.! Mine is bad enough when I drop a deuce on my kitchen floor and accidentally roll in it. Just can't imagine rolling in unknown shizzle know what I mean yo?

  • @jamesmichaelwalker683
    @jamesmichaelwalker68311 ай бұрын

    The Conservatives Era in action !

  • @jacquestaulard3088
    @jacquestaulard30889 ай бұрын

    no sound! All these are censored

  • @timmcgrath9708
    @timmcgrath9708 Жыл бұрын

    “So did you interview the homeless people over Zoom?” Interviewer should spend less time bagging conservatives and more time thinking about her questions.

  • @vicm6561
    @vicm6561 Жыл бұрын

    So Michael have you had an audience with California Governor ? Cause here it is a year later and he does nothing but bash DeSantis.

  • @lionCnet
    @lionCnet2 жыл бұрын

    I have schizophrenia but have a strong support system and don't do drugs. I deal with people who have untreated mental health issues and substance abuse, I'm a security guard. I do notice the problems in nyc and they are worse than people really know. Some of those addicts will kill for their next fix. The homeless kill each other and work for their dealers. They are being used by their dealers in many ways.

  • @normalizedinsanity4873
    @normalizedinsanity48732 жыл бұрын

    This is infantile in the extreme

  • @tomwright9904
    @tomwright990410 ай бұрын

    24:00 mentioning deinstitutuonalisation without talking about neuroleptics is misleading

  • @sidneybristow815
    @sidneybristow8152 жыл бұрын

    Yes, he is running for office. He makes sense and has solutions and ambition and he cares about the City. He’s not driven by greed or controlled by a group of millionaires and billionaires. He knows consequences of laws and regulations and chooses wisely. Running for Governor but I wish he was President! Gavin is weak and his speeches make no sense.

  • @DSTH323
    @DSTH323Ай бұрын

    Amusing that she needed to be assured of your political credentials to calm herself before she could relax into the conversation. Ha.

  • @JamesBond-yn8kd
    @JamesBond-yn8kd Жыл бұрын

    CRAPAFORNIA WILL NEVER CHANGE UNDER DEMOCRAT RULE

  • @hollyhold6960
    @hollyhold6960 Жыл бұрын

    Progressives who are actually nihilist? I'm not a proponent of that. Conservatives who are actually nihilist? Against that stance. Against nihilism. I'm a Bay Area liberal, reg. Democrat. I deplore unfettered capitalism, believe our ills are at least partly due to the corporatocracy of America. I also think it's sick that we have, by far, the most incarceration in any developed nation. I'm pro-professional, educated, tough and compassionate police. I believe in laws written much better, and the rule of law, and the institutions of our govt. Shellenberger makes sense, but I had to listen to what he said, not my knee-jerk reaction. What's difficult: There's a very well-funded fascistic, theocratic takeover of American democracy at work & winning far too much of the information war. I'm also a real drug addict and a real alcoholic, in 12-step recovery. Addiction is one of the most debasing, destructive, tragic, unaddressed afflictions in humanity. Right up there w poverty.

  • @thomaspassmore3455
    @thomaspassmore3455 Жыл бұрын

    I'm just glad I'll be dead and gone by the time It gets so bad people will be jumping off high rises.

  • @antoniogil5156
    @antoniogil5156 Жыл бұрын

    san fran-see-coh? Why?

  • @californiahummus
    @californiahummus2 жыл бұрын

    SEARCH - Recall Mayor London Breed petition