Melissa Caen's "the system worked" comment is unbelievable. We had a maniac in the Whitehouse who spent all his time abusing his power for his personal enrichment. We still have no idea how much damage was done.

@LukeMcGuireoides

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, she strikes me as a tepid neolib, content with business as usual in the corporate Democrat cronyistic establishment.

@0649Hayes

2 жыл бұрын

@@LukeMcGuireoides Don't see that.

@fretnesbutke3233

2 жыл бұрын

If the personal restraint of a few individuals hadn't kicked in,we'd be in a post-coup America right now. We need extensive legislative protections. I'd like a vetting process at the party level. I'd expect at a minimum our candidates could pass a 7th grade Civics test. The orange one had no business being anywhere the levers of power. We'll be learning for years ahead how much literal and potential damage was inflicted on our Republic.

Francis Fukuyama, brilliant analysis! The deepest gratitude from Russian, who was born, grew, educated, witnessed in person, as well as through my family's life's few generations, a Russian cruel totalitarian regime, propaganda, and endless lies on an everyday basis, and every level of life from my very childhood. No country is secure from totalitarianism. Thanks, all of you! Please, keep building and protecting your young democracy!

@0649Hayes

2 жыл бұрын

People here in the USA don't know what their lives will be like if total totalitarianism takes over, which could be SOON! THANK YOU SO MUCH!

@fretnesbutke3233

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. Your words carry much more weight than most.

feelings of pity towards racists far rights groups or individuals "as victims" is VERY dangerous talk. If you rob a bank and it " didn't work", you still broke the law and you are guilty. Period.

Francis is correct, and all of the rhetoric and the education we are giving them is much appreciated and they are adapting quickly! It changes within the seconds of a text or a tweet!

That Fukuyama guy really knows his shit. I love that dude. I wish he was more influential within the party, or was in the cabinet even.

makes you wonder about elites. do you think that we forget?

Calling a duck a duck is name-calling...but Trump and GOP do it all day but they whine and cry foul when others call them out by their behaviors....

Please don't forget that Lindsey Graham's announcement, immediately following his 1st visit to Mar -a- Lago after Jan 6 2021, that Trump was "the future of the Republican Party" (in spite of Lindsey's Jan 6th condemnation of "Stop the Steal") had tragic effects on the priorities of many republican politicians. & the RNC. As you may recall, Trump threatened to form a 3rd political party which would dilute the Republican Party's votes (which also demonstrates Trump's lack of loyalty to the RNC). What they fail to consider is not only the effects of Trump's further undermining of our country's democracy (possibly irreversibly), but also how giving Trump more power would likely make their own political future LESS secure (as evidenced by Trump's pattern of not returning the loyalty which he requires that he receives).

Watergate Timeline: June '72: Watergate break-in July '73: Public hearings March '74: Indictments Jan. '75: Convictions

What specifically is happening in texas concerning elections laws? The legislature is not in session again until 2023. More info please.

Great discussion!

What about the machines lost by the Cyber Ninjas?

DEMOCRATS! It's not BUSINESS AS USUAL! WE THE PEOPLE are going to have to do this. Teach, share, talk about this to everyone. Donate to the deserving. Groups that are pounding streets in the name of Democracy.

Ms. Caen is either naive or ignorant of what has been going on legislatively and politically within the United States. For example, war powers have been devolved within the executive wherein a Secretary or Deputy Secretary, within the CI, can execute acts of war without the involvement of the President. There are only two exceptions in the constitution that give authority for action, and to expand that authority to others is completely dangerous. In my mind, this puts the levels of state power (the most dangerous of all) into the hands of people that do not have the Title President. And don't even speak to the Intelligence community issues, this has become a machine unto itself. And congress, useless; neither party wants to commit to votes for any substantive legislation. When legislatures see legislating as a liability, what do you think happens.

The panels' faces, during Miller's dire predictions, said it all--we are effed.

@heidihogshire

2 жыл бұрын

I dunno how he's so sure but even so, we cannot ever give up or we really are effed!

@simoncolombo6640

2 жыл бұрын

Yeps, as a foreigner I've been looking at this for a while, and if you ask me, this is the last time Americans get to vote the Banana Republicans out of power. After that, all elections are fixed. The British have the same problem. I do not understand why people do not join the Republican/Tory party and vote out the crazy candidates in the primaries.

Identifying with intelligent people here forces me to ignore the real trauma that is occurring in my country. You can not teach what you will even acknowledge.

@Tapin4pardude

2 жыл бұрын

I’m sure you meant to say “you can not teach what you will not even acknowledge”. I agree, too many cultists on the right are unwilling to see the evidence.

@LukeMcGuireoides

2 жыл бұрын

And too many cronyistic dems are too content to acknowledge the writing on the wall

What about the police injuries at the capital?

What about the police officer deaths at the capital?

Consider that the 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution does allow congress to set standards in races, and historically from the inception is the federal control of congressional races. As the U.S. Civil War informed the 13th, 14th, and 15th amendment it is instructive to look at what and why these amendments became necessary, and remain necessary.

What about the cost and damage of voting machines?

Where is the compassion for the loss of life?

The modern GOP is more Atwood than Buckley, but either way it’s name-calling.

I love Tim Miller's wallpaper.

Has anybody notified Merrick Garland about the parental insurrecting going on in San Francisco School Board. 🇹🇼

Misters Fukuyama and Miller are a part of a markedly huge number of former staunch Republicans to whom I give my undivided attention. They cannot be accused of being part of the 'liberal-biased mainstream media'. I have never seen this happen for any president of either party,and the weight of their opinion is hefty. Any Trump supporters who disregard them are wilfully ignorant.

Sidewalk soldiers all mouth and Big guts.

Then the horn headed heathen should not go to prison he should go to the hospital for the criminal insane for about 30 years

We did not elect Joe Biden for reconciliation we elected him to aminister pain and retribution against the Republican party

@fretnesbutke3233

2 жыл бұрын

Putting Trump in the company of Statesmen is like taking a pig to a dog show. After him, we'd settle for anyone with a modicum of competence.

@darploin5071

2 жыл бұрын

@@fretnesbutke3233 And that pig makes a mess on the floor at the dog show no remember trump is not house broken yet

What should happen is all those insurrections should be staked down to the national mall and then the military to drive their tanks over them in the crushement to the ground

@thomaskremer4604

2 жыл бұрын

Look for a doctor.

@darploin5071

2 жыл бұрын

@@thomaskremer4604 You need to look for a prachologist

Fukuyama PNAC. Sorry but a really bad choice of panelist. I haven't forgotten that partially because of his lies we are in this mess.

@LukeMcGuireoides

2 жыл бұрын

Could you elaborate please? I enjoyed what he had to say. He seemed to understand the gravity of the situation and I got the impression he was somewhat progressive

i may de wrong but it sounds trump first america second uk and other countries will agree america is a mess

Insurrection???? Did I miss something, not aware of any Insurrection.

@zlinos139

2 жыл бұрын

Were you in a coma the last year?

@meangene8437

2 жыл бұрын

@@zlinos139 not at all but I guess you were

@richardmillward3898

2 жыл бұрын

It failed. An attempted insurrection is still an insurrection.

@meangene8437

2 жыл бұрын

@@richardmillward3898 insurrection? Better look up the definition.

@richardmillward3898

2 жыл бұрын

@@meangene8437 noun noun: insurrection; plural noun: insurrections a violent uprising against an authority or government. "the insurrection was savagely put down". Which part of this didn’t you understand?

The threats made against Republican lawmakers, their family and associates need to be classified as a hate crime and perpetrators of this bullying prosecuted.

@LukeMcGuireoides

2 жыл бұрын

The threats against leaders on the left are much more prevalent. They even take place in Congress itself.

@richardmillward3898

2 жыл бұрын

Being threatened with due legal process should not worry anyone who is innocent. Now. What do you think of republicans threatening election officials with death or violence?

@fretnesbutke3233

2 жыл бұрын

@@richardmillward3898 yes! 5 years of mob rule by death threats,via tweet until recently.

The crowd was not attacking the capital the crowd was politically worried about how the House of Representatives is not telling the American people the truth about elections and about policy. The narrator of this Event I'm listening to is from Wisconsin I'm also born and raised Wisconsin and he I think should have more sense than to think that anybody was attacking our country when they went to demonstrate their political is political love of the United States of America. It's a. A few people because of the Internet joined up with these patriots and did jump into the building and break some windows but it's not the people who love and support Donald J trump let me tell you so you guys are off the rail. You're just absolutely wrong in your attitude toward the people that went to Washington DCA year ago to show their patriotic feelings about the election.

@vildaolsen563

2 жыл бұрын

These patriots had no guns. The only guns were held by the house of representative police who are chicken livers spineless people and that great big man who stuck his gun out and shot Mrs. Babbitt yeah but Mrs. Babbitt who was a Patriot who served in the military this man is getting away with murder! Hes getting away with murder! He must be prosecuted for killing that woman for God's sakes

@saugeyes

2 жыл бұрын

Funny. I heard some of my trump supporting friends in Minnesota complaining that those lovely people didn't actually hang Pence and kill Pelosi. Good people 👍

@bearsmartdurango

2 жыл бұрын

WIS went Trump and elected dip-wipe Ron Johnson, so no, WIS residents don't know better.

@eduraocastro4848

2 жыл бұрын

Trumpism sent them there and truimp twéeted it would be WILD... so white mass hysteria and cultism love king trump💩👅💥💀

@skychristypresents4313

2 жыл бұрын

@@vildaolsen563 If Babbitt was black, you'd be throwing a parade for the policeman who was just doing his job .. She was evidently too stupid to live if she believed anything that comes out of Trumps mouth..btw You misspelled Traitors with no guns..Yeah they loved the U.S. so much that they paraded a Confederate Flag inside the Capitol..You are so damn gullible ..The Insurrection was planned from the git go by Trump and his minions to prevent the counting of the Electoral Ballots and overturn an election that was deemed free and fair by every Trump appointee overseeing the election, from the AG to Dept. of Homeland Security, and all election officials , including Republicans in states Biden won ..The problem is that Trump and all who buy into his excuse for not only being a LOSER but a SORE LOSER are either suckers for a grifter, or the grifter himself.. btw, Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny are now conferring with the Pillow Guy with some brand new authentic evidence that will reinstate Trump on Valentines Day ..