I feel like more DMs need to say "I'll dm like Matt Mercer when you roleplay like Laura Bailey"

@RuneKatashima

2 жыл бұрын

And Travis. And Taliesin. And also we get sponsored constantly. I'm paid. And one of you have segments like Sam does. I won't even ask for Liam, just give me those.

@chancehanlin2747

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, new rule, everytime someone so much as mutters "WhY cAn'T yOu Be LiKe MaTt MeRcEr?" just tell them the last time you checked you didn't have a Matt Mercer Mode button anywhere on your body just like they don't have neither a Laura, Talisen, Ashley, Marisha, Sam, or Travis Mode Button on your body, as well as the fact that they're basically expecting you to instantly learn voice acting as well as worldbuilding at the drop of a hat. If they regurgitate the same crap, get butthurt to the point of choosing violence, either physical, emotional, or mental violence, or just be a little nuisance to the D&D Party in order to be petty, ditch them the hell out.

I would completely roll with my players setting up a holy water bomb for Strahd. Not saying it would automatically work but I love it when players surprise me with shenanigans like that

@hikaru9624

2 жыл бұрын

Reading this I was reminded of a certain holy item in an old worms demo I had for the ps1. And got flashes of Castlevania.

@Arcticmaster1190

2 жыл бұрын

Granted, I don’t think it would have worked as well as they probably intended but for the sake of fun, I would have allowed it. Strahd would come back, more pissed than hurt but it would be funny. And the module even says don’t just crush your players with constant depressing themes and horror- to have some bouts of humor and hope. Things like this would be one of those moments.

@catandrobbyflores

2 жыл бұрын

I got two of his brides into a sunlight straight jacket, basically turned their dresses against them.

@katkaos7896

2 жыл бұрын

I was going to allow it. It would have pissed him off more then anything but lulz would have been had

@Ashtari

2 жыл бұрын

My dm twitches whenever her group talks about making a bomb… Our artificer made a magical bomb with 10 levels of Snilloc’s Snowball Swarm in it. We accidentally blew a hole into the plane of water and had to go back and close it six months later, almost resulting in the paladin dying on three separate occasions.

What the fuck was The Bard's problem? Setting up a holy water bomb for strahd is fucking great, I would have done something like that.

@RiversEagle_

2 жыл бұрын

A lot, that Bard has a long history of being a dominating bulldozing player that 100% is a "my way or no way" kind of player.

Yeah, that first story? They want a style like Matt Mercer? Let them go get Matt himself to DM for them. Otherwise, they'll have to either knock it off and lower their expectations, or accept the fact they'll never have a game again unless they split up.

@Ashtari

2 жыл бұрын

I wouldn’t even say to lower expectations. They just need to open up their minds to new DM styles. Everyone has their own style. I’ve played with three, one tends to be combat heavy and likes to fast forward through rp segments. One tends to be more memey with their games. (I don’t play with them anymore because as a player I don’t like games that are just a giant meme) And the third has heavy rp with maybe one fight per session. Of course my style tends to allow for my players plenty of time for bonding, with occasional references to characters from the other DM’s games or characters that my players have played previously.

@brittanyrevia2542

2 жыл бұрын

I suspect they wouldn't be happy even if Matt were the DM. Part of what makes Matt so great is the way he makes space for the players to shine. These players would quickly realize that they aren't Liam or Laura or any of the others but wouldn't have the self-awareness to realize that's not the DM's problem/fault.

@Ashtari

2 жыл бұрын

@@brittanyrevia2542 You probably are right. Part of the magic of Critical Role is that these are trained actors who have been friends and have been playing D&D with each other for years. It takes time to build up that sort of rapport. No group instantly meshes from the first session. It takes a bit to get used to each other's styles and preferences.

Idk Curse of Strahd as a dark comedy sounds like a fun way for a more laid back and jokey group to run the game.

@draconicfeline6177

2 жыл бұрын

I feel like it's a good way to process the Edge

@katkaos7896

2 жыл бұрын

I was enjoying running it and just making it ridiculous. I decided that animals were immune to being zombies so they played zombie arm fetch with a wolf. The arm was trying to escape btw

@unluckyone1655

2 жыл бұрын

I can see playing COS as a dark comedy and making it work. Hell, you don't even need to play straight module, you can modify or even style it how you want to

@madvulcan8964

2 жыл бұрын

I remember someone asking for pc’s for his dark comedy Strahd with a little anime flair to it. Hear it was really fun.

ur right, the dm in the last story really doge-d a bullet

@DnDDoge

2 жыл бұрын

I see what you did there!

@BlackReshiram

2 жыл бұрын

@@DnDDoge :D

I mean, I’m running Curse of Strahd, and my players seem to be having fun with a bit of dark comedy. There was a pretty great moment in the Death House when the nursemaid specter got mad at the party for teaching Rose and Thorn to swear.

@catandrobbyflores

2 жыл бұрын

🤣 love it.

Ah, Lucky has graced us with his presence. He has truly blessed us with a +5 happiness and +10 to cuteness

That last story was just pure irony. So glad the op didn't let him in

I think I remember hearing that last story before, either with Drake, Crispy, or Crab. But yeah, OP dodged a Bullet Bill there easily enough. Dude had no chill and clearly had never been told “no” before. When he was, he claimed “Dictatorship!” and continued to bitch. Like, seriously; who gets told “Maybe this game isn’t for you,” and keeps going on about “Not listening to your players!” Dude? You _aren’t_ a player in OPs game. You never even made it to Session 0. You provided unsolicited advice and bitched when denied.

I have not had an encounter with the "Mat Mercer" effect as of yet. The last time I was able to play D&D Critical Role wasn't even a thing so far as I know. I can't recall if Twitch even existed back then.

Ok so I've actually had my own encounters with the Bard in the second story. They are a career problem player. Kaos_Gamer_Girl is actually a player in some of my campaigns. You're right, he 100% is a "it's my way or the high way" kind of player. He did delete his comments because while they initially got upvoted, people started learning how he's a problem player they started to get downvoted so he deleted them to save his reddit karma. I actually copy pasted some of his responses, sadly not the initial one so I can actually share them here The first response is more of a paraphrase but essentially "Hey I read this subreddit too. You're lying, I never did any of that despite the fact that numerous players and the DM from that campaign can attest that that is what I did so I'm going to invent a victim narrative where I was polite and OP is the asshole who is spreading lies and slander." I responded to the post with: "Hey if you've read this reddit too then you know how you're a bulldozing roleplayer that treats other party members terribly and was directly responsible and cited by at least 4-5 players as the cause as to why they left and one literally said you bullied them out of the campaign?" Considering that and OP's track record as a terminally nice person this sounds pretty likely to have been what happened and the more unlikely thing is OP making up a story to admonish you." they then responded with , and this is where I can copy paste "Well apparently no, since we played together for years and I reccomend your games to dozens of people, and Kaos only joined because I pointed her your way. You were fine taking my money for ages and now I leave you run around throwing drama? I kept our shit off the internet, Mr pay per play." They tried to invent a narrative that I was an evil DM and was taking their money because I ran a pay to play campaign. I then got blocked by him after this so when I typed this response up it wouldn't reply "'Yeah that's the thing..... I supremely doubt it's made up considering the slew of horror stories from my campaign and other stories told by other players about games they play in with you. I'm more likely to believe the person who is terminally nice than a problem player with a history of causing issues who has literally been cited as bullying people out of campaigns. "

@DnDDoge

2 жыл бұрын

Wow... that guy is insane.

@Elenrai

Жыл бұрын

Wait you STILL DM for this guy?! Whaa?

@RiversEagle_

Жыл бұрын

@@Elenrai I haven't DMed for him for a solid year

Props to the first OP for catching on that there might be a possible Matt Mercer Effect coming and heading that off before the campaign even started. Now I'm thinking about running Curse of Strahd as a higher-stakes version of What We Do In The Shadows and loving the idea.

@DnDDoge

2 жыл бұрын

I love everything about this comment

Awww your ginger cat ;looks like the kitten I rescued two years ago I wish I could have kept that little guy

Interesting how the last guy knows OP's style of DMing, considering they've never actually played a game together

I thought that last story was gonna be about a player who sees that stress gives you buffs, then did some stupid crazy crap like rubbing a dead civilian's cut out organs on his face just to increase his stress and get more bonuses, then freaks out at the DM when the penalties start to kick in. I find it funny how he's like "for you it's 'my way or the high way'" to the DM for not changing his entire game to suit this guy, but he's the one who's pretty much saying it's his way or the high way, he wouldn't even give it a chance before claiming the DM's entire game sucks.

I may havent played DnD or any game like it, say for one time decades ago on holiday with something from Hasbro, but even I can see the problem with wanting your DM to be like a famous DM. They are not that person. If I was in a game I'd want my DM to do their best and be themself, not Matt Mercer (spelling?). To the DMs or GMs or whatever the title is. You're all doing a great job and have my respect for what it's worth! I hope all your players are having a fantastic time in the worlds you all have crafted. Update: that stress mechanic honestly makes sense! I mean video games (and presumably DnD) have that in some sense anyway. Weapons that are brilliant but add weight than can make you sluggish if you exceed the threshold. Powerups that buff you but can inflict a blight of sorts if you exceed a threshold...again. items that have a cool down if used too often etc. So stress in a survival game makes sense! Boon: you get an overall buff to your stats (speed, ability etc) but the draw back if too stressed is obvious.

Tbh, stress system may feel like it takes away player agency sometimes. Played in a campaign with it, and while everything else was on top, this thing annoyed me to death, making my character panic when he normally would not and vice versa (if they passed the saving throw and I was told that they "managed to keep calm").

Thank God I've never dealt with the Matt Mercer effect, the core group members and I started playing together and everyone else in the group has been taught by us. When we DM we have our own spin and styles with our own tricks and strengths/weaknesses. Although we do all have the same vibe and humor.

@DnDDoge

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I started playing before watching CR. Though, honestly, our DM is stellar.

1. Not had a specific "you're not Matt Mercer"comment, but I've had players drop out when they realise that their idea of how games work is wrong. A joke amongst my group once went I may not be Matt Mercer, but none of you are Laura Bailey either, so let'd just have the best game we can with who we've got here tonight. 2. Bard sounds like an utter kill-joy. A bit of dark comedy is a great way to stop the more horror-inclined games from becoming angst-fests, and creative take-downs of boss monsters are the stuff the best rpg stories are made of. 3. Problem player should have been booted then and there and/or his character attacked by angry patrons of the bar. 4. I'd have blocked that halfwit a lot sooner than the OP. I totally agree with you that OP dodged a bullet.

Oh no the Mercer effect rears it’s ugly head again.

Haven't played much D&D, and I have no idea how flesh golems work in it (or any TTRPG in all honesty), but as long as it looks, acts, and smells like a normal person/creature that normal D&D vampires would go after, the holy water bomb actually sounds inspired, if you aks me. As long as there's a way to prevent Strad from sensing something's off, that actually sounds like it would be a good plan, even in a more serious campaign

Good to see Tunic in the background. That game needs all the exposure it can get, because it's an early contender for best indie game of the year.

Holy water bomb story is pure BadWrongFun; Not the intended use of the module, but as long as everyone is having fun there's no actual problem. Bard just wanted a different campaign than the rest of the group, and should have left calmly to look for another group.

That Matt Mercer effect goes two ways, i've seen DMs expect players to be Sam and I've seen players expect DMs to be Matt. Now I don't personally think there is anything wrong comparing yourself or your group to Matt/Sam and Critical Roll as a whole, but you shouldn't expect a critical roll experience from your own group, especially a group of randoms. I personally do try to DM 'LIKE' Matt... this doesn't mean carbon copy of him with 'how do you want to do this' and everything but I am working on voice acting, I am learning to write better stories, learning to balance encounters better. My own version of Matts methods are my end goal when it comes to being a DM and Sams style is my end game when it comes to being a player. I will never be 'Matt Mercer' but I will be 'Suru The DM'. Now sometimes Matts style doesn't work for a group like I feel like Matt would almost instantly drop a game of Muder Hobos he wants roleplay, inter character dialogue, inter player dialogue he wants a movie/show delivered in spoken word format with 5-8 narrators. He doesn't want 'I roll to attack... 15 to hit... 8 damage... next turn'. For a murder hobo style game yo uwant someone who just wants to Roll dice for a DM not a story and narrative driven one. This last bit is where I have issues as those players and even DMs who want a 'narrative' experience often don't really have the ability nor the patience to do so in my own experience. For example I DM a game on Fridays where the characters play their characters well BUT the character concepts are so incredibly boring for me it's not even funny.... 3 Players 1 Inventor 1 Gunslinger/Inventor 1 Summoner from Fantasy Egypt. The Inventor and Gunslinger only ever do stuff that pushes forward their goal of just crafting stuff, they never follow story hooks, never engage with NPCs unless they can convince them to become a worker in their magic item fabrication line, never do anything besides craft and then go collect materials to craft more... honestly I hate this game and if it continues I'm going to tell them I can't do it anymore and they need to find a different DM because me and the Summoner player want to DO STORY stuff. Neither player is bad... I just don't like the crafting system being the only thing I get to DM... it's not fun. Going full circle that's the point Matts style is fun to some but not others and you need the right DM and Players to make that kind of game work and you shouldn't just expect your players and DM to mesh especially with online random games.

Story 1: I've been lucky enough to run some short campaigns for some newbie Critters that were really wonderful to interact with, but I think it's partially because they tempered their expectations before I even met them. Cleric and Fighter sound... intense, to say the least. And this is coming from a DM that loves doing story driven games. The rest of the group might have to consider cutting Cleric and Fighter out if they actually want to play. But I have a feeling that might cause a rift of sorts, since the group seems a bit tight knit. Story 2: I've been running Curse of Strahd as a horror-comedy, but it was something I did deliberately and what we discussed in session zero. It's nice that the DM was fine with rolling with what the majority of the players wanted but it's a bit sad that they lost a player from it. It's too bad the bard's player blocked them, this seemed like a salvageable situation. Story 3: Well now I want to know what Bewey did that he needed to bounce out of a session THAT long. I mean even a "sorry, I got to go for bit, just keep playing" would have been fine, but just straight up leaving was rude as hell. I mean, I can see it as excusable if it was caused by, say, a power outage, but it doesn't sound like Bewey made any attempt to explain himself. On the other hand, it sounds like no one bothered to check up on him, but judging on his behavior the whole story either they did and he ignored them (op may have just forgotten to include that) or he is so unpleasant to deal with no one wanted to be the one to reach out. I would probably rule this a soft ESH if this was a AITA post, but since it's not... eh. I probably would have booted him after he mentioned he pulling all this to "derail" the campaign. Story 4: Ooof. Before our in-person group got tanked by Aunt Rona I had a player that only played 5e with us because it was a system everyone else liked. He'd spend our 5e games complaining that it wasn't Pathfinder, then spend our Pathfinder campaign dunking on 5e. I mean, I know its not a perfect system, but C'mon, you're whining about it isn’t gonna make me want to pick up Pathfinder. He was also the reason why I prefer DMing milestone campaigns instead of xp. Good fucking lord, did this grown ass man whine and whine and whine for xp that if I had to do it over again I'd just kick him for the whining alone. This guy is his own horror story, and someday I'll tell it. I just need time to figure out how I can tell it without losing my temper.

Dammit Lucky! I can't help but hit the like button every time! Great video as always Doge!

@hikaru9624

2 жыл бұрын

Same. But then again our cat overlords are powerful so yeah :)

That gaslighting in the last story, ooof

The thumbnail of a player holding a BODY PILLOW of Mr. Mercer has me friggin' rolling! XD

16:41 Oh I have a guy like that. So he was the forever dm, but he was taking a "break" at the time (aka claiming to be too burned out to do anything but always tried to control meetups, sessions, and would backseat dm) so another person in the group was dming a three shot. Well forever dm's cleric nearly kills my rogue in a friendly sparing match by trying to drop me out of a hole in a freaking airship, so my character, rightfully so, doesn't trust his anymore. He gets pissy about it for a while, but eventually calms down. Later on, his cleric heals an enemy that we had just downed since a group of them were attacking us (cause apparently his cleric will heal everyone and and anything -- even if it's actively trying to harm the party), which caused the enemy to kill an important npc its next turn. We almost lost the fight because of him and all our characters were pissed as hell. Forever dm got irl upset saying that he was allowed to make zany characters too. He was sulking the rest of the way through the dungeon, constantly running ahead of the group and touching everything he could to activate all of the traps. Which lead me unable to do anything since I built my rogue to be super good at spotting and disarming traps. He then walked away from the table to sulk... I mean, cool off, in the living room after we called him out so that we could finish that session. Next session had to be online due to the rona, but he said he couldn't show up for it. Well, he was online in the discord and roll20 just to watch. When we came across a mini boss that we were having just a little bit of problem with but nothing we couldn't eventually handle, he begged to have his cleric join up. The current dm caved and gave the cleric a super cool and heroic entrance. But the forever dm HATED the description and ditched the call after the fight, actively claiming that wasn’t how he wanted to enter and he wasn't going to return. He then also hated the cool way the current dm wrote him out of the story on the fly and wrote paragraphs of how he hated it and it was stupid. (For context, we were entering a lost city that kept having active flashbacks to the past days of how the city was lost, and cleric got stuck in one transported to the past and ended up leading the rebellion of the townsfolk who erected a statue in his honor. This was the third and final session of the three-shot, so it wasn't like we were going to continue this storyline.)

@oddball87

2 жыл бұрын

Control freaks gotta control freak. Seriously though, dude sounds like an absolute ass. The idea of an abandoned city having active physical flashbacks to it's final days is cool as fuck (I don't remember it's name, but there was a fan mod for Skyrim with the same premise), and your character getting trapped in it's past and becoming an instrumental part of its history is a hell of a way for their story to end.

@cosmicsymbols4225

2 жыл бұрын

@@oddball87 ikr? I thought it was cool af. And yes, he was a total ass lol. The Foxy Bard has one of my encounters with this man on her channel and I'm currently compiling everything this bozo did for her lmao

@DnDDoge

2 жыл бұрын

I think it was called the Forgotten City, and I think the devs of that mod made a stand alone game by the same name

Thankfully the closest thing I’ve had to the Mercer effect is an obsessed player that kept trying to get me to play their music during my games despite me having my own music I play during my sessions.

Using a holy water and explosive filled flesh golem to kill Strad sounds really cool.

I know the player in the curse of strahd game he was awful in every game I've heard he played and the one I was in

"You should DM like Matt Mercer!" "You should play like Matt Mercer's party!"

A very sweet and well-spoken doge telling me nightmarish tabletop stories is the small joy I didn't know I needed in my life. Thanks for all your work on these videos!

@DnDDoge

2 жыл бұрын

you're welcome! Thanks for watching!

"You walk into my tavern, and piss on my floor? I piss on that floor, not you."

If I was op in the last story, my response would have been "ha now that last part is something we can both agree on. Have a nice day **block**"

Kinda glad I got into DnD via podcasts made by newbies rather than Critical Role (specifically it was TFS at the table, where at least some of the players were brand new to DnD and Adventure Zone where only one player had played before and the DM was a newbie) at least I went in with more realistic expectations :p

Boy do I have a story to share involving naming your enemies. I posted it in the subreddit not too long ago

@DnDDoge

2 жыл бұрын

just recorded it today. May be a bit before it pops up in a video though, so keep an eye out!

I get the feeling that Lucky's effect in this, is to bring calm the tension. ^V^

Why does curse of strahd go one of 3 ways, fantastic, completely derailed/nuked, or Dracula Dead and Loving it?

Dming for my sister and friends. My sister was telling me how she was watching critical roll and other dnd podcasts. I let her know that I was not that kind of dm and how streaming dnd and playing it were two very different things. She was very understanding and has been having fun

I had a reverse Mercer effect. had a Dm who was so worried about the Mercer effect any mention of critical role sent him into a rant. this was at an adventure league game with experienced play we all had played with many dms with many different styles so no one was expecting or asked for a mercer style game. he went into this rant when he herd me and anther player talking about an episode of critical role before the game and when I got an item a character in critical role had and the other mentioned it off handly to me. later he explained his issue with Mercer was he thought people expected him to do voices because of critcal role. we assured him no one expected him to do voices.

Yeah. They grow up so fast. As for story 1; am I the only new player of current new players who never watched critical roll and got in it because of other RPG streamers like the warhams/ narrative declaration crew? For a worst while; I dreaded starting playing as for months; I watched dnd KZreadrs and wow. I can say so far; my experience has been good and cordial. Story 2: Woooooow. This is why you speak up! What a petulant man-child. Story 3: DM should of used the power of the word "no!" to stop the a-hole. Story 4: Huh??? Hmm. Maybe I should film my cats more often for my videos.

Group from firist story is to blame. If they are at their 4th DM and they ddidnt remove those 2 that-guys, then it's on them that they wont play

If I may leave a recommendation, I would appreciate it if you would leave links to the stories you read in the description

Afternoon Doge.

As a Cleric of Lathander, I'm supposed to turn the other cheek... but I'd rather deliver some divine justice to this player peeing on the floor. Yikes. Great video, your voice is easy to listen to.

I have a great solution for that group. Advertise looking for AGM to get the Matthew Mercer experience and show how much you're willing to pay for it

The most memorable curse of strahd Campaign I ever ran the party the party did more evil acts and were more murderous and evil Thenstrahd

So, I dunno if anybody else experienced something like this but in my ex D&D group there were a few people (the group had at least 10 people in it) that suffered of "Matthew Mercer Fever" like me and some other peeps used to call it. All standard right? Well, what if I told you that one of those people was the DM themselves? They, along with their significant other, became obsessed with C.R. to the point of trying waaaay to hard to copy their style of campaign. This, mixed with the story basically becoming a glorified fanfiction filled with op npcs and the sort where me and a few other innocent people basically were captive audience, led to the only solution I could pursue: with the help of quarantine I slowly detached myself form the group and now, with me transferring to another city for uni, we basically don't talk anymore. I wander sometimes where that convoluted campaign went, but I sure am glad I went away when I could

@DnDDoge

2 жыл бұрын

Seems to happen a lot in these stories

Oh yeah, I've had a player who tried to dominate all the players through sheer force. It was working for a bit. He started to extend it to the NPCs. Admittedly, probably not the best way to handle it, but I had an NPC able to turn his tricks back onto him and put him in his place. The only good thing is the player at least was willing to learn and he pretty much stopped harassing the other players and gave some respect to the NPC. He at least did not go on a hissy fit and throw a tantrum.

Thank you for the video doggo

Thanks 4 all the hard work.

Good roleplay takes buy-in from both the players and GM.

Its weird how people in these stories think 'compromise' means 'do everything I tell you to do.' Then go " _I'm_ not the one being stubborn! _YOU_ are." when they get told no/ refuse to make real compromises

Again I wonder if those involved are 5 years old. They sure act like they are

Okay you want a story about a mismatched player? I'm runnig Icewind Dale: Rime of the Frostmaiden where we have an established core group of 3 players. In the beginning there were 5 players but people were coming and going, generally because of scheduling changes but the core group of 3 were always there. The adventure calls for 4-6 players, so I like to have 5 in case 1 can't show up. I was advertising the game on discord and got this guy who wanted to play a harengon cleric - I wasn't too thrilled about the way harengon were off-loaded into Forgotten Realms retroactively as if they had always been there, but I allowed it anyway because I like bunnies. So, I needed a way to bring him into the game and to have him join the party in a way that was sensible and immersive. To do that, I had him waiting at the Northlook Inn where he was looking for help investigating the case of some fishermen going missing in Easthaven, which is a quest already built into the game - I just made it so he would be the initial quest giver instead of the NPC. It starts out okay, he's roleplaying and interacting with the party seeming to have some experience with these things, but he wants the party to go look for these missing fishermen right away - meanwhile, they had something else they were already on their way to take care of, something that could be seen as equally urgent. Cleric is insistent and there is a bit of an argument about this for awhile but finally relents. They get to Caer-Dineval and I load the map for the VTT. Looking at the map, there's several locations to investigate on the way to the Caer, but Cleric wants to go directly to the Caer. They argue some more and the party ends up splitting 3 ways -with the cleric heading directly to the Caer. I usually don't split parties when they're in a town. Two people investigate a house where they heard some noises or something, another two go to the tavern to ask questions and learn information, and Cleric heads directly to the Caer, so I decide to run these in a logical order - with the Caer being last. Okay. We do the bit with the abandoned building, then in the tavern after questioning some NPCs there, the party learns that they really need to head to the Caer to find the rest of the answers they're seeking. I get up to go to the bathroom and I come back hearing one of the players saying "Okay, but you don't have to be a d*** about it." Apparently the Cleric was gloating about how he was right and they were wrong. Cleric had basically been gradually trying to take a leadership role of the group, but he was new here yet still acted like everyone should follow his lead and listen to what he said. I kind of wondered if he had played the adventure before or read the book or something because he was so adamant about going to the Caer, but I never asked or found out. He was presumptuous, loud and irritating the rest of the group. Once they figure out a way inside the Caer and learned what was going on there, combat ensued and after that the session ended. Cleric never returned. See, the thing is, I'm not a pull you to the side kinda DM. When I came back from the bathroom and figure out what the drama was about I sarcastically said "I wish I could find a game that I could jump into the middle of and take over the party, that sounds like fun." Addressing cleric I said, "I have low tolerance for disruptive players, I need you to simmer down and fall back a bit - you just got here and you're already acting like you're the leader of the party and you're hogging the mic." He quieted a bit after that, said he had a great time, then ghosted us. Left the server without a word. Am I the a$$hole here? This story is very tame though compared to a lot of the other ones I heard here and I wouldn't expect a video out of it or anything but just thought I'd share it. I tried to give him a chance but he didn't want it. They say you should take players to the side but there's groups where they sit in a circle around you and take turns criticizing you and then call it therapy - it can even be court mandated. So maybe I have a different worldview and life experience that taught me a different approach to things. I don't like whispering, I don't like talking about other people behind their backs, I don't like being secretive. I like everything being aired out in the open.

Extra point in the "Critical role Effect" they are actors, some of whom are traine in improv', and have an understanding of how narratives work and are build, and who know how to use narrative tools.

I can see why there is such a divide on what people see critical role as. When I see people mocking and talking shit about critical role, it always because they met players who act like this along with some other stuff that comes with it.

7:50 Fuq the guy! We are playing CoS right now, and we are having a BLAST. We kinda bounc between sirious and comedy at this point. Sirious stuff still happen BUT the way we go about it is more saturday morning catoon like. Example: We had a night at Ravenloft castle. We were exploring the place when 1 player gose "Fuk it! Let's see what the witches do at the cortyard!". And thus they entered (not me because of character reasons) into the Witch party where they had blast and drunk a lot of "Hexpunch". It was fuking GREAT! Also we did give more personalities to the wifes. To the point where we activly want to find a way so that they survive and can be in future campainges.

Matthew Mercer is freaking Jotaro, holy shit

Love the cat

My DM doesn't watch Critical Role, while I and a few others at the table are fans. We chat about it in the Discord sometimes, and might even mention sometimes if something he does reminds us of something in it, but we're all absolutely clear that we don't expect him to be a Matt Mercer (especially since none of us are a Laura Bailey or Liam O'Brien ourselves) or push him to watch it.

Here's the thing about "The Mercer Effect." Even if Matt himself DM'd for these people... It still wouldn't feel like CR. So to expect someone who, for all intense and purposes, is just "a guy" to run a campaign like that for you is insane.

The second story: YOU WHAT?

CAT!

The dreaded Matt Mercer effect. Sadness.

Ha. I'm the DM, and I seem to be the one in the grip of the Matt Mercer effect. I'm a fairly new DM and my campaign has suffered as I still make some bad calls. I try to "Do the voices", but I feel very talentless, and struggle to make good challenges. My players understand that I'm doing my best, and have *never* demanded me to be Dice Fabio... I'm very fortunate to have them as players.

Also the reason you couldn't find his post was because he was getting down voted and he deleted them to save his reddit karma I guess

I answered a post about a co DM position once, never again. The guy got weird so I blocked him, then a little while ago he messaged me again wanting me to run his campaign for him. I've moved back into my childhood home recently because of my mother's untimely death in December so have bad internet and can't run online games, but this guy just kept pressing even though I said no. Eventually he gave up though, so maybe I won't have to block him again.

As someone whom likes horror campaigns (binge reads Van Richtens Guide to Ravenloft often and love the domains) having a horror comedy isn't a bad thing. Look at movies like Scary Movie, Ghostbusters, Frighteners, even Van Helsing has some funny moments despite the horror vibes. Sounds like Bard wanted 1999 Dracula and instead got Dracula Dead and Loving It (imo a funny movie XD)

Huey being an ash. Tisk huey what would Donald and uncle scourage think of your behavior. Your being a bad duck Huey. I aspect this kind of behavior from a beagle boy not one of my newphews. Lol

'You're no Matt Mercer' and you're a far cry from Liam O'Brian or Taliesin Jaffe. Critical Role is overrated. I love that so many modern rpgs track physical and mental health separately, that last guy needs to pull his head out and pay attention to the world outside his own ego

I think a lot of these horror stories are just cases of mismatched groups, I'd imagine its really just a matter of finding other players and a DM that wants to get the same things out of the game you do. I'm a DM, and I run what I would consider "normal" D&D games. Matt Mercer runs a show. I run a game. There's story and roleplay, sure, but at the end of the day its more a game than theater. To each their own though. Looking at a lot of the games advertised on discord - the ones that are free like mine - are mostly not what I consider "normal" D&D games and I can see how people introduced to the game through youtube videos and Critical Role might get turned off. I see a lot of weird themes like anime-related stuff, super heroes, bizarre homebrew setups and so on. Nothing wrong with those, but they aren't for everyone and not representative of the classic experience of D&D as generally portrayed in books and other media.

Last guy sounds like the typical college "intellectual" that just throws around words without bothering to learn the proper use or context for them.

I've been on both sides of the issue over specific houserules; there's one game I'm in where I particularly dislike one of the houserules they're using but I stay because everything else is awesome.

I've actually seen posts on Looking for Group or whatever "No Critical Role Fans please" for this very reason. Some of it is because of the Matt Mercer Effect... and other is because "You're not enough like *insert voice actor here*!" or because Critical Role characters are starting to rival Geralt of Rivia and Drizzt for their number of clones. And that's saying something since I'm talking about Drizzt here!

The third story was the most horrific. The guy hated how his character was done while he was away for some reason that he ruined the campaign by wanting to perform an act of indecent exposure to an NPC while staring her down? Wow, what a disgusting way to kill the campaign.

@spectrelead

2 жыл бұрын

Or, sounds like he had a serious case of Main Player Syndrome and was mad that others got some time while he was gone instead of pausing everyone for him

Matt Mercer effect strikes again...

You don't need to say quote every time

Why do I keep reading this a "Mass Effect Ends A Game"?

Ironic. I called this would take place and got blasted by the experts in the KZread comment threads, yet here we have explanations about how this is now taking place. Guess it doesn't say much for the comment threads experts.

Dracula is not the same as Once Bitten. Underworld is not the same as Twilight. Blade isn't the same as a Vampire in Brooklyn. None of those movies is Fright Night. Why must a D&D story about a vampire always be told the same way?!?

@FordPrefict42

2 жыл бұрын

P.S. I want to formally apologize for not including Lost Boys on that list! It was an oversight that I have now corrected.

@FordPrefict42

2 жыл бұрын

@Gi Gi - I'm sorry. Thank you for helping to prove my point. I also neglected to include Ultraviolet, Nosferatu, Bram Stoker's Dracula, Dracula 2000, Dracula: Dead and Loving It, Van Helsing, 30 Days Of Night, and that Nick Cage Vampire movie. What can I say? I have an eclectic taste for movies! I saved Queen of the Damned for last.

@FordPrefict42

2 жыл бұрын

@Gi Gi - Technically, Last Man On Earth / Omega Man / I Am Legend are also vampire movies. I used the slashes because they were all based off of the same book, I Am Legend. If you want werewolf movies, The Howling, American Werewolf in London, Lon Cheney's Wolf Man, Silver Bullet, and Wolf starring Jack Nicholson. We've already mentioned Twilight and Underworld.

@FordPrefict42

2 жыл бұрын

@Gi Gi - Werewolf: The Beast Within is a pretty bad ass movie. I totally agree that there needs to be more werewolf movies. Zombie movies are a dime a dozen. I totally can't believe that I forgot about Teen Wolf and Monster Squad!?! "The Wolf Man has nards!" - Monster Squad

aaaaaa Baby Lucky! :D

Matthew Mercer pays actors to follow a loose script. They're not playing RPG in front of the camera, they're pretending to be. Players comparing the GM's game with Matt Mercer are not comparing their RPG with ideal RPG, they're comparing it with a scripted show.

If you want your DM to be like Matt Mercer then said DM should be able to expect you to play like Marisha Ray, Ashley Johnson, Laura Bailey, Sam Riegel, Travis Willingham. Liam O’Brien and Taliesin Jaffe. I have to admit though, the DM in the first story handled that all wrong. He should’ve just kicked out the problem players, that was kinda unfair to the rest of the players. The Strahd holy water bomb story kinda shocked me too, never would’ve expected a Bard to not enjoy a funny, shit stirring way of killing a boss.

Crit Role used to be real D&D when it started on Geek & Sundry, season 1. Since season 2 though, it became a show, scripted and designed to entertain a third party (the viewers) to bring in the views, subs and cash. All the fanatical fanboys are total idiots for not seeing it. Although the way they always get so defensive suggests they deep down know it's fake and they are just desperately clinging on the only thing they have in their lives.

At least that player admitted what he did. I had a game that I was running forever aforever ago where a player had to hop out because of his work schedule and it didn't really work to have the character drop out so we asked if it was OK if someone played the character.. They were perfectly fine with that period when they came back the player said I really like this character can I keep it and they were OK with that period then without any kind of communication to me they made a Druid a****** who Literally did everything to derail the game so badly I didn't GM again for 8 years and to this day claims I had a reason for everything

@ketrava0425

2 жыл бұрын

Like 2 ended firmhounds CR14 that they knew we're seeing are 14 that they were hiding from in a cave and everybody put their torches up so they couldn't be seen and he turned into a fire elemental so everyone could see type of obviously derailing game

The first story, the DM dodge the bullet on that one! There was another one in these rpgy horror story (forgot which channel cover it) that did had a session zero and it went bady cos of the stupid ass players high expectation to be Critical Role!

You look so cute doge in your wizard hat on top of the cute furry head of yours.

You can try unddit if you want to see removed comments

Critical Role Wannabe: "Be more like Matt!!!" DM: "When you get on Critical Role yourself, then we'll talk, 'till then get out." Oddly enough, a poster I saw back in grade school is wiser than the wannabes, "Be more like yourself, everyone else is taken". There's only 1 Matt Mercer, just accept reality that nobody else is going to be exactly like him (Or whatever expectations these people want, I saw a story of 2 wannabes that thought their druids snuggling as birds would be rewarded by him 🤦‍♂).

Matt Mercer is fine and all but Chris Zito though

Critical role is pure cancer

Before RPG horror stories, I hadn't heard of him at all or critical role. Part of me just kinda wants to avoid it after hearing all the stans out there, but that's not really fair.

I myself i am kinda Under matthew Mercer Effect. I like the dnd groups i have but i sometimes just can not stop thinking about how i wish i had such good dm and group like critical role. Or course i never said it out loud

@DnDDoge

2 жыл бұрын

Don't get me wrong. It's definitely something to strive for, but limit expectations

@77Zenin77

2 жыл бұрын

@@DnDDoge yeah. I one day want to be a DM when i will get some more expirience and i kinda want to aspirate to level of DM-a as high as Mercer. Maybe one day

You don't listen to players and want to dictate to them. Uhm dude you aren't a player.

nedm?

I'm sorry, but the only best show is the one with Tom Scharpling.