Bobby Fischer is the reason why sanity rating is there💀

@tristantheuerkorn5124

Жыл бұрын

very impudent

@steventhepig3173

Жыл бұрын

😂

@prawnydagrate

Жыл бұрын

ikr

@prawnydagrate

Жыл бұрын

ikr

@roqsteady5290

Жыл бұрын

Probably, but many other top players from Morphy onwards became insane. Perhaps being eccentric, on the cusp of insanity helps creativity and not only in chess.

When Bobby Fischer being well-rounded is a 4 💀

@bobbyjonas2323

Жыл бұрын

Magnus knows Bobby’s well rounded in another area because he likes men

@ogbmt

Жыл бұрын

​@@bobbyjonas2323huh?

@bobbyjonas2323

Жыл бұрын

@@ogbmt Magnus is gay. He likes men. So he knows how well rounded Bobby is in his lower area

@damianoledda5497

Жыл бұрын

​@@bobbyjonas2323 what did you have smoke

@agmonblynkos

Жыл бұрын

​@@damianoledda5497 he tried way too hard to make a "funny joke"

Fischer was undeniably genius. There were no chess engines in his day, and US chess was under developed at the time, so he learned Russian to read as many Russian chess books as he could get his hands on.

@fulalbatross

11 ай бұрын

Learning a language might be ambitious, but definitely not a definition of genius.

@vannersp

11 ай бұрын

@@fulalbatross put this in context: He did this in the 1960s. There was no one to teach him Russian, no apps, no google translate. He taught himself. What he did was more akin to deciphering a dead language than picking up French in high school.

@davidhale8034

11 ай бұрын

​@@vannerspdeciphering a dead language 😂😂😂😂 are you on drugs?

@nathanshand846

11 ай бұрын

@@vannerspdude there were still massive library’s with books on everything. He also still had people to help him that’s what people used to do when they wanted to learn they would find someone to teach. It’s a big feat regardless but would require hard work not necessarily genius.

@pastaroon

11 ай бұрын

​@@fulalbatross he had an estimated IQ of 180, pretty genius to me

Bobby would call Magnus an idiot savant if he were alive today.

@JustLaila3011

Жыл бұрын

Calling someone an idiot doesn’t make them one. For example I can call you an ignorant fool for writing this comment 🤷🏻‍♀️

@pargm9543

Жыл бұрын

He already said when he said no more creativity in chess

@stianaandal1488

Жыл бұрын

Bobby would get crushed by Magnus if he were alive today

@mismagiuz

Жыл бұрын

​@@stianaandal1488 he'd get crushed by most super gms

@MistahGamah

Жыл бұрын

Ironically Magnus is far more well-rounded, well-adjusted, and sane than Fischer was (and a better chess player to boot)

Hikaru: everyone is great but I would smoke them I'm pretty sure

@neolord50pro77

Жыл бұрын

did he really has said that?🧐

@drake4931

Жыл бұрын

​@@neolord50pro77 no, but it's his mentality

@gonzalotapia1250

Жыл бұрын

To be fair. Hikaru and any today's SuperGM should mop the floor with Fischer. Yes, he was absolutely great in his era, but nowadays computers have given grand masters unthinkable comprehension of the game.

@stopmarcus3605

Жыл бұрын

@@gonzalotapia1250 Fischer would still win

@Sheep.

Жыл бұрын

@@stopmarcus3605 No, he's right. Current Super GMs know lines that Fischer-generation GMs had no clue about. They would be losing straight out of the opening. It's like saying Morphy could still win against current Super GMs whereas, in reality, he would struggle to beat current IMs and probably even FMs at best since no one in that era even had substantial opening theory. The average strength of elite chess masters has grown over the years tremendously with the fast innovation of technology which is why comparing legends of the past with players of the present is usually not a fair comparison.

Bobby Fischer had the highest engine accuracy average over 20 games in chess history where he won 20 games in a row and he played in a time that had no chess engine. Isn't that kind of shocking? That despite 15 years of chess engine training, no other player ever achieved that?

@user-uj5pc7dy2j

Жыл бұрын

You answered it yourself. It is PRECISELY because of chess engine training that no other player has achieved that in recent times. It is a fact that competition is greater nowadays than ever before.

@teemupalviainen

Жыл бұрын

Playing accurately for a win is easier when your opponents don't. Today, playing that accurately at the top level gets you draws, with less accurate novelties and complications being necessary to win games.

@markarmage3776

Жыл бұрын

@@user-uj5pc7dy2j It's not about 20 game win streak, it's about the highest engine accuracy ever recorded. You can play for a draw and it's still a high level accuracy game.

@markarmage3776

Жыл бұрын

@@teemupalviainen Again, that's not the point, engine accuracy will give you either a draw or a win. The accuracy level is still high even if it's a draw and the opponents also have a high accuracy level,

@imnotnotgameiacmaniac5327

Жыл бұрын

which 20 games are you refering to?

They literally used Bobby as a cold war weapon 🥶

@joaoprezado6915

11 ай бұрын

Propaganda tool.

@aum0aumgood

4 ай бұрын

A PR hype.

@kaywansepehrarash1401

21 күн бұрын

What great comment.

Fischer was a 2800-level player in 1972. He was 130-200 pts above other top GMs at the time. 1972 Fischer would very literally be in the argument for the second-best player today. Give him modern engines feeding him the most accurate lines to maximize his natural talent and he's probably the best chess talent ever.

@buzwemaka7264

7 ай бұрын

we don't know that so it doesn't matter, kasparov and magnus clear him

@calicoesblue4703

7 ай бұрын

@@buzwemaka7264 No they don't. Has Magnus or Kasparov ever win with a 130 point lead??? Fisher would beat both of them.

@steve-zo4bf

7 ай бұрын

@@calicoesblue4703????

@IAmTheRealHim

7 ай бұрын

@@calicoesblue4703by that logic Paul Morphy is the greatest… he’s estimated to have been 400 points above all of his competition worldwide.

@CoreM150

7 ай бұрын

@@IAmTheRealHim Bro, there was not as much competition back then. Compare that to when Bobby fischer was grandmaster, and there was certainly much more competition.

He wasn't a chess genius after all he was a genius playing chess

@user-bk9fk2tq2z

4 ай бұрын

That's what Bobby himself said in the interview that we both watched.

@scottwarren4998

3 ай бұрын

Look at this clown magnus, he complains fischer wasn't exciting in terms of new ideas, then 1 second later magnus says fischer scores very highly in terms of opening ideas and general ideas about chess. Magnus is a hypocrite.

@user-bk9fk2tq2z

3 ай бұрын

@@scottwarren4998 Magnus just rated Bobby wrongly.

@swires1

3 ай бұрын

Did that guy Magnus ever speak on anything else besides chess?!

@Hascienda27

2 ай бұрын

@@swires1he called Bobby Fischer mildly well rounded

We all know if magnus was rating some other player there would be no mention about sanity😂

@BWOOHAHAHAAA

Жыл бұрын

Wrong. Watch the original video, he even gets to rate himself. And yes, for sanity too. I think he gave himself an 8.

@patriciozazzini3182

11 ай бұрын

Sanity exists because he criticized tge jews.simple

@bennywolfe4357

11 ай бұрын

@@patriciozazzini3182he was also jewish😂

@citizenGman

11 ай бұрын

​@@bennywolfe4357that's why his tribesmen labelled him "insane". He was telling secrets to the dumb cattle.

@patriciozazzini3182

10 ай бұрын

@bennywolfe4357 I know but just by birth.He went full against Israel and then he was persecuted, something too common from the synagogue of Ha Satan.the offense they committed still remains.They killed an innocent man. JACOB'S trouble will soon commence.Repent and believe in the innocent man that was crucified and died to cover our sins.

Shame Bobby Fischer no longer here for all this to be said to his face!!!

@Ihate_rice

11 ай бұрын

Booby Fischer

I'm completely amazed at how little credit is given to Bobby Fischer for his writing a chess column for Boy's Life, the monthly magazine for Boy Scouts in the United States. A lot is written about how it was some kind of Cold War competition and he put the Soviet Union's best in their rightful place causing extraordinary attention in the western press. But his column written for young people made chess playing 'cool', to the extent that anything targeted at Boy Scouts could be considered cool.

@anomaly3215

6 ай бұрын

​@@Jk-qx7gmI'd love to see a list of your accomplishments if you have so much right to speak

@ErnieZee

5 ай бұрын

Bobby isn't praised because he was an antisemitist

@idocare6538

2 ай бұрын

Great story, I hadn't heard that one.

Fischer shouldve got a 10 on influence. Not many more influential people in chess.

@MorphyMakesMegas

Жыл бұрын

Morphy had more influence than Fischer. Fischer himself considered Morphy the most influential

@mikeloan

8 ай бұрын

​@@MorphyMakesMegasi guess morphy influenced for fischer most likely but fischer influenced for future chess there is even fischer 980 chess made by fischer that the most popular part of chess game and let alone many modern chess player mention fischer as their inspiration and impact fischer has the biggest impact as much l know

@CanariasCanariass

3 ай бұрын

10 in genius too

@Couldbebetter100

29 күн бұрын

​@@MorphyMakesMegasjust becoz morphy is more influential doesn't mean Bobby isnt also 10/10 in influential

@felixfungle-bung4688

19 күн бұрын

​@@MorphyMakesMegas Who is Morphy

The best of the best, Super GM Bobby Fisher, forever !

Magnus: His games weren't exciting in terms of new ideas Bobby: Created game of the Century at mere age of 13 (Consisering that Era, Bobby was an absolute beast. Without any super gm's help, he climbed the ladder alone as a a mad Genius. Sitting and plying with himself. As if chess wanted him to play the game)

Bobby is the GOAT

Bobby's father published a review of the entire Encyclopedia Britannica. He played the Game of the Century when he was 14-years-old. No super grandmaster has ever beat another in a competitive match by a score of 6-0 or anything close. Fischer did it twice, including against the World #4 at the time. When he played Spassky he was 125-points ahead of Spassky, who was the World #2. That would be the equivalent of Magnus being rated 2926. TLDR: Bobby was a 10 in genius. He also, along with everything else, is credited with creating the variation that likely is going to be the version played mainly at top level events in the future. He's a 10 in influence as well. To say he was a 10 in entertainment value shouldn't even require explanation, but his match against Spassky in 1971 was global news.

@colmlooney5843

9 ай бұрын

Nah magnus has it spot on the money here. Although for sanity id give him a 6

@EGarrett01

9 ай бұрын

@@colmlooney5843 You have no reasoning at all.

@colmlooney5843

9 ай бұрын

@@EGarrett01 sorry I dont post thesis statements on yt comment sections like an actual degenerate

@EGarrett01

9 ай бұрын

@@colmlooney5843Wow, you think that's a "thesis statement?" Thinking is tough for you, huh?

@farziltheweebo4841

8 ай бұрын

​​@@colmlooney5843for like you can'r read more than 6 Lines of text

Every time I see, or hear vids, articles, stories about Bobby Fischer I get a irrepressable sense of greatness... genius beyond defintiions. Bobby, to me, also brings a 'compelling' component to his charisma. Meaning there's a 'presence' to him which intrigues and urges one's curiousity to find out more. This other guy has no such vibe. And, the audacity to analyze and rate Bobby Fischer is akin to taking apart a Stradavarius to explain why it's considered to be the best/greatest/most remarkable violin of all time. Some things are sacred. Bobby was on a quantum level. Once you try and 'observe' or define him his reactions change accordingly. Thusly, his true mystique still remains illusive and irreproachable... and can never be truly comphrehended with 'logic'. Only awe and wonder, by those who believe in a higher power can really appreciate such a legendary legacy...

Fischer born in the modern era with engines and computers I believe would be just as devastating and would challenge Magnus

@stigcc

Жыл бұрын

Probably, but it could also be that his particular style, ego and learning method is not perfectly alligned with modern day tools?

@MorphyMakesMegas

Жыл бұрын

What about Morphy with modern engines and computers? He would smoke anyone!

@rickrick5041

Жыл бұрын

He’d beat Magnus

@los1wochos

Жыл бұрын

If my grandma had been made of 30 tons of steel and had road wheels she would have been a T34 Tank.

@rickrick5041

Жыл бұрын

@@los1wochos That may be true but no one knows her. All know Fischer

If Bobby Fischer could study Stockfish he would destroy Magnus. Genius 10/10

@jrmunro111

11 ай бұрын

Pretty sure if given the option he'd rather shoot himself since that represents everything he disliked about where chess was going

@Ihate_rice

11 ай бұрын

Booby Fischer

@grahamstrouse1165

11 ай бұрын

Magnus probably isn’t giving him enough credit. It’s like someone running a 9.9 100 meter dash fifty years ago. Yeah, there are guys who can beat that time today but they have better everything: Better tracks, better shoes, better training, better diet, better drugs…

@marcknicolas564

10 ай бұрын

Gringo nationalism off the charts

@AltOurCumrade

10 ай бұрын

He is not genius. Like yes he is extremely smart but not 10/10 or something on the scale. Hard work ≠ Genius. Because of his hard work he has achieved so far not because he was born genius.

Bobby Fischer: Pretty strong words, Cro-Magnus man.

@metalmacbeth

8 ай бұрын

Best comment lol cro magnus lol

Fischer said he was not a Chess Genius but a Genius who played Chess

@MorbiusBlueBalls

8 ай бұрын

he also said 9/11 attacks were great so who cares what he says

@abdelerahmanekhaldi6228

4 ай бұрын

to be hnoest as a middle eastern i can see him as genuis when i connect the dots that he said a smart statement like that, 9/11 wasn't great cause innocent people died , but as he said it's great cause it's a response of what USA policies did to a lot part of the world, not here to praise Russia nor China both of them are even worse than USA for human rights vision but still USA policies are one of the major reasons a lot of countries now are ruled by dictators @@MorbiusBlueBalls

@qwerty-qt9ez

3 ай бұрын

​@MorbiusBlueBalls And Kasparov is better for supporting "free world" and being an traitor for his own country?

@T4TheTidePod

19 күн бұрын

​@@MorbiusBlueBalls You shouldn't discredit everything someone says because of some bad things. He was extremely good at Chess and had an IQ of over 180, which is higher than Einstein's. He was, in fact, a genius who played Chess.

@MorbiusBlueBalls

19 күн бұрын

@@qwerty-qt9ez yes Kasparov is great. rassia is dictatorship and Kasparov uses his influence to change the world for Better. it's pathetic that you compared Kasparov to bobby Fischer

Bobby's influence on chess is 10/10. No other player in history exploded chess interest like him. Every single player of the 70s until today attribute him as their inspiration. All the kids who started in the 90s and 2000s were a product of the coaches and masters who were influenced by Fischer.

@boilingman972

21 күн бұрын

Hikaru>>>

@Kelvinllovejr

21 күн бұрын

@@boilingman972 you clearly didn't read my comment

I would have ranked him first on the genius level

@vibovitold

Жыл бұрын

He worked extremely hard. One of the most hard-working players ever. I'm sure he had great talent, but his work ethics was virtually unparalleled. It strikes me as a bit unfair to just pack it all into a "genius" category, as if it came to him by itself.

@joephillippe

Жыл бұрын

Tf do you know lmfao

@lunazui5855

Жыл бұрын

talent and skill is different

@waldoman7

Жыл бұрын

​@@joephillippe what

@joephillippe

Жыл бұрын

@@waldoman7 bro cant read apparently

How the heck was Fischer not a genius, who then is a genius.

@gregpeterson3144

8 ай бұрын

As Magnus mentioned - Capablanca, and I'd say - Alekhine.

@MorbiusBlueBalls

8 ай бұрын

Einstein, tesla, turing, darwin

@Jake-py4lf

7 ай бұрын

@@MorbiusBlueBallsDarwin? He even admitted on his death bed that the theory of evolution is nonsense

@MorbiusBlueBalls

7 ай бұрын

@@Jake-py4lf ok flat earther creationist

@ssjkaryuusennin

6 ай бұрын

He said he's not that big of a genius

Magnus knows infinitely more about Chess than me, so he's probably correct, but calling Fischer "not that much of a genius" is slander in my opinion. Fischer was just some kid living with his mom in a small New York apartment and he took down the Soviet chess machine and made it look easy, all while he had clear and obvious mental health issues. If Fischer didn't go crazy and become a recluse, there's no telling how many years he could've remained world champion.

@bootyholelover5639

Жыл бұрын

He didn't go crazy. He just didn't want to represent America in chess anymore. He felt like America only used him to take down the soviets in chess. That's the main reason he stopped playing. The American government wouldn't even let him visit Russia to play his friend Boris Spasky, and when he did they tried to get him arrested and sent to jail. Why do you think he left America? They thought he was a spy or something 😂

@user-vt4hd8hb4v

Жыл бұрын

I agree.I'm negatively surprised about Magnus' opinion here. Bobby pretty much taught himself yet managed to tear down the entire Soviet chess machine. You don't have to know a lot about chess to know the guy was a genius

@zemm9003

11 ай бұрын

​@@user-vt4hd8hb4v he didn't. That is propaganda. He dodged facing Karpov who had a record against Spassky of about 23-8-1 or something crazy like that.

@user-vt4hd8hb4v

11 ай бұрын

@@zemm9003 Wdym he didn't? Karpov was a wc challenger after Fischer already won it. Fischer dodged chess altogether at that point and it's absurd to think that someone of his ego would be afraid of facing Karpov thinking he's a better player.

@zemm9003

11 ай бұрын

@@user-vt4hd8hb4v nope. He dodged Karpov specifically. Karpov was far above all other players of his or previous generations and he was younger than Fischer. If it weren't for Kasparov existing, Karpov would have likely been the longest reigning Champion of all time.

Fischer was correct , chess has become boring just turning into a contest of who is better at memorization.

@aum0aumgood

4 ай бұрын

Actually that was how Fisher had success was studying weakness of Spassky... Fisher was neither an intuitive great...nor a mind who could live breathe and perceive the living grid of chess. How many can succeed to win blindfolded one to levels that Magnus demonstrates... ? Live classical play against Magnus would be valuable tool to eliminate mentally incompetent "governmental" employed persons., Preelected evaluations... Let alone will Magnus care to problem solve for Earth Life Nations etc? Thank You Magnus & Carlsen family for sharing your lives

@leoncatchatoorian202

5 күн бұрын

You got it, that's why he re-invented Chess with his Chess960. I do NOT play, as Bobby termed it "the old Chess"!

Being 170 elo point better then the competition is more then a 7 lol

@mickeydrago9401

3 күн бұрын

Yeah, I think he's just a ridiculous arrogant, liar and jealous... Not satisfied with being somewhere in the top five with Bobby above him

Magnus got that unintentionally hilarious humour.... His 'well-rounded'.... Proceeds to give him an unwell rounded score 😅😂

Genius only 7??? In his era he was incredible.far ahead of all the other GMS

@zemm9003

11 ай бұрын

Yeah but he avoided facing Karpov and compared to today's players he would not be 2800+.

@LetsbehappyO.o

8 ай бұрын

​@@zemm9003Had nothing to do with Karpov. He would destroy Karpov

@MrElephantBeach

3 ай бұрын

@@zemm9003But would today’s players be as good if they grew up in his time? It goes both ways.

@T4TheTidePod

19 күн бұрын

​@@zemm9003 Absolutely. A 1972 player would not fare well against a 2024 player. That's obvious. You would have to give Fischer the same preparation as modern GMs have, or take away all the preparation modern GMs have to get an equal playing field. The latter would almost certainly be dominated by Fischer, while the former wouldn't be a contest since Fischer would quit.

@felixfungle-bung4688

19 күн бұрын

​@@zemm9003 Chess players today are standing on the shoulders of yesterday greats.

Giving Fischer a 9 out of 10 on his impact and influence of the game is actually insanity itself! Fischer influenced the game more so than anyone before or since.

@tekashi828

4 ай бұрын

more than anand?

@TurdBoi-tf5lf

Ай бұрын

​@@tekashi828 yes

@anwealde

Ай бұрын

10 is apparently reserved for the guy who invented chess

Based on his other rankings I have a feeling that Magnus isn't thinking of "genius" as just "talent" per se, but as something that also includes a degree of creativity and players being ahead of their time in developing theory and stuff. Fischer probably loses points in Magnus' view there, despite being such an amazingly precise player. Kasparov, who Magnus still thinks is the GOAT, is probably the player Magnus is comparing everyone else against.

@adrianamatlack532

Жыл бұрын

Fischer was way ahead in all those categories, I am a USCF Chess Expert, I am not nearly as strong as Magnus, but I have an understanding of the game and that comment is absurd. Fischer was a 10 if there ever was one, you could argue 9, but even that is pushing it. Magnus is incredible, but he has also had the aide of computers and all the modern books and theory.

@el_kasztanejlo8555

Жыл бұрын

@@adrianamatlack532 don’t all gms have that nowadays? Heck, even Kasparov did in his late reign. Magnus is n1 in era of chess engines where all his games can be studied by his opponents. In your eyes it’s an advantage to Carlsen? I’d say the opposite.

@adrianamatlack532

Жыл бұрын

@@el_kasztanejlo8555 Having all that is a huge advantage for Carlson, especially with his memory and learning. I am USCF Chess Expert rated over 2100 something, I have been playing since the early 90s, and without a doubt the average players play went up greatly when engines like Fritz came out about 10 years later. I know there is no way I would have got as good as I did without engines, but the real chess match would be Fischer and Carlson in a Fischer Random chess match. I think it would be even. Also do not forget that Fischer was up against all the greatest Soviet chess players who were looking at his games, do you think that is not a huge disadvantage? To this day some of Fischer's best games still confuse computers at certain points. This game in fact, and it's far more beautiful and brilliant than anything I have seen from Magnus kzread.info/dash/bejne/d4F4rMeboMaan7Q.html

@michaellisinski2822

Жыл бұрын

@@adrianamatlack532 I'd also put Fischer at a 9 or 10 personally, but I think you might have misunderstood what I was trying to say there. Fischer had a few games where he experimented with things like the Larsen Attack, and there was his famous bust to the King's Gambit, but overall he was known as someone who liked to play a certain way and he stuck to it. I once saw a Soviet player in retrospect say that if Fischer liked to eat eggs for breakfast, so to speak, he would haven eaten eggs for breakfast every day. Even though I'd agree Fischer was a genius for having developed all his knowledge by himself, and for the fact that he was leagues ahead of the competition at the time, I think Magnus' comment is best explained by his having a certain idea of what "genius" is to him, which fits someone like Kasparov a little better, as opposed to being a knock on Fischer's playing ability.

@adrianamatlack532

Жыл бұрын

@@michaellisinski2822 Many said that kind of nonsense, he showed them all by crushing Spasky with d4. Fact is that no one ever dominated so many strong opponents the way Fischer did. Capablanca and Morphy did not have the same level of competition. Also people said that Tal was not a great positional player, buy Vladimir Kramnik said that Tal was a great positional player, and he was. I was saying that for many years before. It makes me laugh how people trash talk Fischer when there is no doubt they would have no chance against him when he was in his prime. I played at the Marshall and Manhattan clubs, I know Asa and all those people.

Should be a 10 for sanity since he was actually right about everything he said

@MrRazorblade999

3 ай бұрын

Bull. He was obviously utterly insane.

"Capablanca-like quality" - interesting how, in the context of how Magnus is putting it, he sees the level of genius in Capablanca. And how Fischer has a bit of that, but not fully.

@MouseGuardian

9 ай бұрын

YES! Love that!

@abhijithashok3537

3 ай бұрын

Capablanca is below alekhine 😂

In terms of influence I don't think any person holds a candle to Fischer

@elimargetts2080

Жыл бұрын

Kaspy brah

@hypercubemaster2729

Жыл бұрын

​@@elimargetts2080 Not even close. Kasparov wasn't nearly as popular or well known as Fischer was.

@yesandno1414

Жыл бұрын

Tell me you're american without telling me you're american

@Rspknlikeab0ssxd

Жыл бұрын

@@yesandno1414 Hey, I could be wrong. But I can't think of anyone other than Fischer for making the biggest international impact on chess. Morphy's reputation precedes him, Capablanca and Alekhine/Botvinnik made chess a spectacle in their nations. But so did Fischer, and Morphy is American anyway, so being American has no influence either way there. At the end of the day, I think Fischer had the biggest impact on the game itself, bringing real money and respect to the game. Fischer's impact on chess as an international phenomenon was like Babe Ruth taking baseball to the live-ball era from the dead-ball era of Ty Cobb. Yes, another American example, I know. But still, I don't see how I can be wrong about this. Who would you say, Kasparov, Anand, or Magnus maybe?

@drHouse-gb2kt

Жыл бұрын

​@@hypercubemaster2729 rofl Kasparov is 200x more popular than Fischer

influence he's an 11 out of 10. stop it

Fischer was 150 points above his closest rival, of course he was a genius. He played to over 2700 before GM's learned with the help of engines. If Carlsen had grown up in the 50s and 60s I highly doubt he'd have reached Fischer's level of *genius* and he also had something Carlsen will never have - a personality.

@Omnick_

17 күн бұрын

Wtf did magnus do to you 😂

@practiceyourart

16 күн бұрын

That's like bragging about the Celtics beating on crappy teams in the NBA before the expansion. Magnus would annihilate him, but keep coping 😂

I think bobby fisher Was the most Genius Chess player in history

@WillAnderson3rd

11 ай бұрын

Capablanca too

@SomebodySharp

5 ай бұрын

Sure grandpa

If you are famous and not mainstream you will get 4 under sanity section.

Bobby Fischer had the highest intellect in chess And highest IQ chess player ... Even Magnus can't beat bobby Fischer intellect in chess Fischer dominated his era There's no way u give him a 7 in genius

@jackieyang2775

Жыл бұрын

bobby Fischer got a 180 to 187 in the iq test then, in today's comparison he's about 155. Magnus Carlsen has an estimated IQ of 190

@jackieyang2775

Жыл бұрын

I also think 7 is very high

@applehead2004mj

Жыл бұрын

Do you think you understand chess better than Magnus Carlsen?

@user-fy9el2zu5g

Жыл бұрын

@@jackieyang2775😂

@MegaBLUEHAWAII

11 ай бұрын

Magnus Will always play second fiddle To Fischer Tal Keres and Morphy

Bobby fisher is probably the greatest chess player of all time for the same reason that Babe Ruth is probably the greatest baseball player of all time. Neither one of them compare to the top players today but they were so far ahead of their peers.

@luc5901

11 ай бұрын

Yea that doesnt matter. Its exactly like you said ‘greatest of all time’ not ‘greatest of their time.’ Bobby doesnt stand a chance agains Kasparov, and Kasparov doesnt stand a chance against Magnus.

@CSRgamer

11 ай бұрын

​@@luc5901that's the difference between "greatest of all time" and "best of all time." They aren't the same

@wungabunga

11 ай бұрын

It’s the same in all competitive pursuits. Ali is the Greatest, but not the best. Mayweather ranking him is very similar to Magnus ranking Ali, “he lost fights!”. Pure ego.

@griergentry8777

11 ай бұрын

Give BF in his prime access to the data & electronics that today’s players have and he’d crush them. Moreover, there’s a reason why his random position game never caught on; Players are too afraid to think for themselves & not be able to move by memory.

@TalhaTheRipper

10 ай бұрын

​@@luc5901cry cap kid, Bobby neggs your mommy both ways....

Bobby was very highly technical.

Yeah, he's well-rounded. 4.

Considering the era of bobby if he instead was in this era and studied the new strats he will be a monster

@aum0aumgood

4 ай бұрын

Bobby was a "monster" persona. People liking him is their opinion. But if unbiased evaluations are possible of these opinionated persons truth would prevail. one can hear Bobby Fisher speak for his self... Living ones life is the example all and any have to know feel re: another May All have a healthy expression of their abilities in life in support Earth Life to. Continue supporting All Life.

This is what fear looks like

Had Fischer grown up with computers like this generation he would've beaten every last single one of these Super GMs. Fischer was a self taught genius.

Fischer was not insane, he just spoke the truth

@edjamaz4636

8 ай бұрын

??? He denied the Holocaust and applauded 9/11

magnus is literally bobby if he was born in this era. and i think personally bobby's elo would be higher than magnus if he was still present!

@mapic202

10 ай бұрын

True, bobby didnt have all this technology that magnus has today, and bobby even learn russian on his own to read chess books

@QwertyQwerty-ws5dp

10 ай бұрын

@@mapic202 Neither did Bobby faced as many strong grandmasters as Magnus faced, and everyone has access to that technology why cant everyone be Magnus. Don't be stupid

@dominusdone5023

10 ай бұрын

Too bad there’s no evidence that can prove he is better

@majormononoke8958

10 ай бұрын

@@mapic202 Booby came from a russian immigrant family...

@Alex-pq9ip

8 ай бұрын

@@mapic202 bobby was 160 elo ahead of his 2nd rating guy while magnus not even 100 from #2

Fischer is the best player ever

What Magnus and many other grandmasters at that level is so reluctant and afraid to say, is that it is possible to be a genius and a chess-worldchampion despite that you´re psychologically ill. Admit it Magnus, Kasparov and others. You´re afraid of him, because it shakes you in your root, that being unnormal can be an advantage in chess. You all envy him. None of you have bully-punched players like Larsen, Taimanov and Petrosian the way Fischer did and sent shockwaves through the entire chess-world. I don´t see Fischer as a less gifted attacking-player than Magnus. On the contrary. If Tal could tear Karpov totally apart as he sometimes did, then why shouldn´t Fischer be able to tear apart Karpov or Magnus when he plays his best?

I would give Morphy all 10s. I love him.

I think Fischer would wipe the floor with Magnus if things were like for like, modern times for both.

@calob3927

11 ай бұрын

I think you’d be surprised. I think it would be close. I’d have to give Magnus the edge just because of his incredible clutch ability and bizarre unpredictable tactics.

@Krazyerd

7 ай бұрын

100% Magnus wins no contest. In fact hikaru wins no contest too

@wemijei

4 ай бұрын

Fischer was insane in terms of getting better and studying. He was analyzing all on his own with boards and mind. With access to engines and considering his sanity, he would not only catch up but become #1 in no time. Comparing accuracies of games that was played 50 years apart would not give any accurate results. Fischer was a genius who was ahead of his time just like Morphy. Magnus isn't. He is just good and thats all.

Carlsen's whole style is thanks to Fischer's genius discovery you don't need dramatic but sometimes dubious tactical attacks to win, as was the style up until him, but instead it's better to play solid, simple chess, accumulate advantages and grind it out. If Fischer's genius is a 7 then Carlsen's is 6.

@QwertyQwerty-ws5dp

10 ай бұрын

Kasparov himself said on Lex's podcast that Magnus is a lethal combination of Fisher and Karpov so he is definitely better than Fisher. To say Carlsen is a 6 on genius is just absurd. Just listen to what other grandmasters have to say about him and try to cope with it.

@dominusdone5023

10 ай бұрын

lol Carlson is a 6? How so where is the evidence magnus style comes from fischer you just made that up

@mke344

5 ай бұрын

Carlsen is like 10 times better than fischer without even trying

Fischer excelled in an era without stockfish. The 20-0 he won was with his raw genius in chess. Comparing Carlsen or any other GM in the top 10 against Fischer is stupid.

I find it shocking that Bobby is considered underrated by the masters today. He literally. beat all of Russia all by himself

@zakialle9767

Ай бұрын

Because of the juuus anybody who praises him would be libelled for antisemitism and can loose a lot

Fischer had the largest dominance gap in strength over his opponents since Paul Morphy, much larger than Carlsen's today against Caruana or Karjakin. Two top-level GM blowouts in the 1971 candidates: Taimonov (6-0), Larsen (6-0), and all without engine prep, not to mention smashing Tigran Petrosian, who had been considered literally indestructible before Spassky. Then, guess what? He smashed Spassy too after throwing him a few games. He singlehandedly dismantled the entire Soviet chess machine like a toy. IMO Fischer should score higher on genius rating.

Oh, please. Fischer is easily the most influential player in chess history. Even with telegraphed strategies his opponents couldn't stop his bishops.

Magnus is correct here: you must be insane in destroying all Russian grandmasters in a single tournament. So yes Bobby Fischer is insanely GREAT! Bobby Fischer at the age of twelve would beat Magnus in his prime. Magnus Carlsen is the product of computer engine. In Fischer's time there's no such thing as computer chess engine.

Sanity is actually a measure for chess players? I didn't know there was that many insane chess players.

@tychoMX

Жыл бұрын

oh dear. Yes, there are LOTS of examples of mentally unwell chess players. Some tragic, some entertaining. Torre was committed into a mental hospital. Von Bardeleben jumped out of a window; Pillsbury attempted to do the same. Steinitz died in a mental hospital. Lembit Oll killed himself after battling with depression. Korchnoi thought he could play against Maroczy (at the time long deceased) through a medium. Steinitz thought he could play against god via telephone. There's others. I remember there was one famous player demanding free travel on a train with his cat "Chess", Nimzowitsch antics in social situations, and a few more. Now: I don't think chess makes people mentally ill, but that the type of people that can devote themselves to chess without abandon have traits that make them prone to mental illness (like obsessive tendencies).

@mircopaul5259

4 ай бұрын

You need some mental issues to decide to spend your entire life staring at an 8 by 8 board. A very strong ego and an abnormal desire to prove one's superiority is necessary to win at the very highest level.

Bobby Fischer was the greatest to ever live. He would beat magnus if he was still alive. Prove me wrong

@cocoboboka

3 ай бұрын

😮 u sure?

@Bruh-bk6yo

3 ай бұрын

Bobby was weaker than Karpov. Karpov Bobby Have you heard about the transitivity of "

@Orlando-zo7et

2 ай бұрын

I do think that magnus is better but if it comes to who is the better prodigy it will go to fisher. If we take prime fisher and magnus, magnus will win however if Bobby had chess engines and given 6 months to prepare then Bobby will win 9/10 times.

@TurdBoi-tf5lf

Ай бұрын

​@@Orlando-zo7et nuh uh

@hisinddjsomnsl

Ай бұрын

​@@Orlando-zo7etI would say if I studied very well, I could have been a great man by now. But that doesn't prove anything. I didn't study well and even if I studied well there was no guarantee. Fisher was a genius no doubt but he hated the idea of memorizing lines. Even if you give him the resources, he would not have. Do you think, 6 months is enough to learn all the chess lines to beat Magnus? Magnus memorizes lines but if you watch him play he stray away from engines lines to beat his opponent. You guys are undermining him too much. Magnus is a great player with or without chess theory thats why he has been dominating the chess world for so long. And, if Bobby was born as the same time as Magnus there's no guarantee that he'd play chess. The same thing for Magnus if he was born in Fischer's time. The only thing I can say for sure is Magnus is a better chess player than Fischer. There's no comparison. Magnus has the advantage because he has more resources but it is what it is. Magnus is better than Fischer or any other chess better. I'm sure in the future, there will be better players better than Magnus too.

Bro, Bobby Fischer would smoke Carlsen and Fischer didn’t even have chess engines to study with.

@TurdBoi-tf5lf

Ай бұрын

Nope

I thought Bobby Fischer was known for being a genius

@bootyholelover5639

Жыл бұрын

It's called being jealous. Magnus is half the player Bobby was and he knows it deep down inside😂.

@stigcc

Жыл бұрын

Of course he was a genius. But, genius is rated by the production they leave behind, not talent. What did he contribute with? Maybe not as much as others, like Kasparov, Petrov, Alkekhin? I dont know, just trying to understand his rating.

@balazsio

Жыл бұрын

​@@stigcche contributed to the openings. As i remember he got his own variation as well

@Symbioticism

Жыл бұрын

Skill issue according to Magnus.

@Uffareel

Жыл бұрын

He had a 180 IQ and Einstein had a 161 so yeah I'd say he was a genius

So he’s influenced chess greatly and he’s influenced openings greatly but he wasn’t that creative and didn’t do stuff nobody has seem before? Magnus isn’t really making sense there

@mraaronstewart1556

Жыл бұрын

Bobby was 10x a hard worker than his peers, often seen studying games from all eras of chess than doing anything else lol. What Magnus means is that he often didn't create mamy of the lines he would be famous for, rather Fishcer would study and remember: "Hey, in 1946, great Russian player X had the exact same position as me, he did this wrong, so I'll do this". Magnus, I'm assuming doesn't find it too compelling, as he does the exact same. Calling back to old games that he has studied and applying it to the exact modern day. Whereas you haave other players (Karpov, Kasparov) who created new positions from nothing.

Genius 10 Entertaining 9.5 Influence 10 Sanity 7 (he was a little nutty, even if there is more truth to his claims than a lot of normies would like to admit) If Bobby had kept playing, Karpov probably would have never become a World Chess Champion, so any accolades that Karpov has would have been added to Bobby's accolades & he would have no peers. (At the very least, Bobby would have gobbled up 50% or more of Karpov's accolades.) In his latter years, he was also crushing his opponents in a way that no chess player has since, even Kasparov & Carlsen.

@mircopaul5259

4 ай бұрын

I agree

@steveauger2574

12 күн бұрын

Entertaining is an 11 if Magnus is the benchmark

Fisher was actually the only mentally sane man considering he understood who are the real problems in the world.

Fischer is best of the best of all time, compared how usa chess was underdeveloped and USSR chess was overdeveloped, his wonderful tactics against spasky, who never recovered from the lost, he even said bobby fischer used hypnosis on him

Magnus Carlsen is afraid of the type of Chess called FISCHER - random. That in itself made Fiacher a genius above Magnus. Wesley So defeated Magnus in the unmemorized chess 😅.

@janesjanes4553

Жыл бұрын

Fabi beat him too

@DxRafax

5 ай бұрын

So defeated magnus in champion chess tour 2020, then magnus won 3x in a row. Fabi won against magnus too, but still, magnus won the title. Magnus lost world cup vs duda. Then, in 2023, he won. Thats a weak argument lol

It’s unfair to give him a 7. Carlson’s game only based on computer programs and that’s how they all played now. The old players had their own ideas. That’s much more interesting. Apart from that Fischer was so much more charismatic as a human being.

@TurdBoi-tf5lf

Ай бұрын

Charismatic doesn't mean genius

sanity : 10/10 I think he was right

@CapnBlud

6 ай бұрын

He was a misogynist dude

@-zero-

6 ай бұрын

@@CapnBlud even better

@herohunter5961

5 ай бұрын

​@@CapnBludHe changed his mind later, search it up

@k6ka5hi

5 ай бұрын

​@@CapnBludand you my friend are a SIMP

Bring Bobby back from 1972, give him 2 years to catch up on all the new theory and we'll see just how "not so great a genius" he really is 😉

@Arthur-zu6wg

Жыл бұрын

there is a reason why there are names for generations like gen x gen z or gen alpha...... bobby won't be able to in modern days. engine and stuff too much....

@coffeetalk924

Жыл бұрын

@@Arthur-zu6wg Magnus is human, yes? Bobby was human, yes? Give Bobby Fischer 2 or 3 years starting today to research and study modern theory, engines, other players, etc. And then see how well Bobby does in competitive chess. I think the world would be astonished once again.

@coffeetalk924

Жыл бұрын

@@Arthur-zu6wg it's a time machine hypothetical kid

@AltOurCumrade

10 ай бұрын

⁠​⁠@@coffeetalk924you just can’t claim that as known one knows what would happen. And, Bobby fisher was not like a crazy genius born with talent or something. He was a self trained hard working man who achieved his goals because of hard work . Hard work ≠ Genius

@1594simonsays

10 ай бұрын

he wouldnt want to learn theory anyways so it wouldnt happen

Rank his opinions on women now

@ohk3770

Жыл бұрын

10

@bantapawilliam7635

Жыл бұрын

0

@ish4638

Жыл бұрын

Magnus has explicity stated that he does not believe there to be any inherent difference between men and women which causes men to perform better. Instead, he acknowledges and cites the lack of support and opportunities in chess given to girls compared to boys.

@jimmyr3044

Жыл бұрын

10/10

@jisatsushitai

Жыл бұрын

not only on women, but also about jews

I demand the full video.

@DirtyPoul

Жыл бұрын

Same! I looked through all the comment, and nobody linked it...

@rkk15

Жыл бұрын

kzread.info/head/PLAwlxGCJB4NdCGFMeAEaldLbe4IkToUc6

Unlike modern chess, which is 90% memorization and calculation, bobby played actuall chess, when theory was young, no engines, and required thinking outside the box to win

Fischer wasn't insane at all. He simply had a very good *pattern recognition*.

Bobby's only mistake was telling the truth.

@miked2543

Жыл бұрын

Exactly

@batrongordeg

20 күн бұрын

Racism? Antisemitism? Clearly unfair and advantageous rules to one person for his world championship after he lost should be accepted for the second try? People don't say he was correct if you don't know what he was saying.

@WesternEugenics

10 күн бұрын

@@batrongordeg We know what he was saying. That's why he was correct. Saying words like "wahhh hes a waycist!!!" to appeal to contemporary political correctness is not a valid argument.

As a 700 rated person I am very insulted by the fact Magnus called a famous grandmaster 'not very genius'.

@neolord50pro77

Жыл бұрын

He's jealous.

@duh4405

Жыл бұрын

I agree with your point, but Bro 700 rated is super low, so weak.

@neolord50pro77

Жыл бұрын

@@duh4405bro, I can't even defeat Martin

@Bojack_ff

Жыл бұрын

@@duh4405 I am 510 😂

@bootyholelover5639

Жыл бұрын

My base rating with no chess knowledge whatsoever was 1200 😂. I didn't even know what an "en passant" was. I can't even imagine being under 1100 , because it's never happened, I think my lowest rating ever was like 1192 or something.

I would love to see Fischer reaction to this

There are many great chess players in history and you can rate them however you want, but there’s one player that can’t really be rated like that. The fact that he was so far ahead of his time and so far ahead of his contemporaries puts him in a category all his own. This player will be in chess books for the ages, a true prodigy that by far has had the most influence on the game. Chess players and World Champions alike study his games to this day and no matter what anyone says about him Paul Morphy will forever live in chess infamy!

Fisher was arguably the only genius of all post war chess players

Bobby Fischer is a great player, but please remember that Fischer's name can be very popular because it was a part of US propaganda during the cold war vs Soviet. At that time, Soviet dominated chess (Spassky, etc.). Chess is an intellectual sport that considered as a symbol of nation supremacy (look at China and India right now). I think Magnus score is very fair

@rennyskiathitis8178

Жыл бұрын

I think Fischer is so famous mostly because he really hed an elo of 2780 in 1972. 2780 even now is rare, you ad inflation. And his rating is better than Magnus. Fischer also retired after he became champ. He's an enigma.

@ereh11

Жыл бұрын

​@@rennyskiathitis8178 how is his rating better than Magnus?

@ok-pv7fw

Жыл бұрын

​@@ereh11at that time fisher was more then 100 elo above any other player, which magnus hasn't achieved, and that elo inflation could be y magnus is higher rated

@bootyholelover5639

Жыл бұрын

Magnus is an outlier with insane memory. Ding lucked out, that WCC against Ian could have easily gone either way. As far as India goes, didn't yall invent chess? You better be good at it. Despite all this, The best chess player ever was an American. His name was Bobby Fisher. He was 400 rating points higher than the world number 2. Magnus.... only 50 😆

@bootyholelover5639

Жыл бұрын

​@@ok-pv7fw he was 400 rating points higher, not 100.

If you transported Magnus back to Fischer's time, well before Magnus's wealth of knowledge of past games, when the game was still evolving and its landscape still needed pioneering, Fischer would've made this guy eat his words and refute him in real time. And remember, Fischer didn't have the wealth of past games to Magnus's extent, nor computers to learn from or practice with, but plain old rolling-up of the sleeves and hard study and work in those old relics called books.

If Fischer was alive today And given engine for a year Bobby be like : bring me carlsen 😂

Bobby spoke the truth about who really controls the world and the media destroyed him. The Kanye West of chess.

@FlamencoDeniz

Ай бұрын

he removed his fillings because he thought they're radioactive or something

Magnus low key lookin like a snacc in this video

Politics/Opinion on who controls us: 10/10

Magnus hasn’t ever impressed me the way that Fischer has. Something about standing on the shoulders of giants

@twstdreality

4 ай бұрын

Him playing three different boards while blindfolded didn’t impress you?

@zakialle9767

Ай бұрын

@@twstdreality no he’s a nerd who can’t go out of his room and doesn’t come close to the aura Fischer had

Magnus is a product of engines and memorization. Bobby had no engine help. He literally beat all of the top players of his generation even though they cheated and worked together to try and beat him. Think about that. Magnus gets bent out of shape and leaves tournaments when he THINKS people are cheating. Bobby knew all the Russians were analyzing his games together and trying to figure out how to beat him, but he still beat them all. What Bobby did will never be repeated. Truly a mad genius.

@sridharg3043

11 ай бұрын

So true..

@bevs9995

3 ай бұрын

bobby also beat the first computer.

@Couldbebetter100

29 күн бұрын

This is what i wanted to see

Let's be real.. Bobby had that thing only geniuses have. In the sense of he lacked in other areas, but in terms of chess he was the best ever. Period. Just like let's say Tyson Fury in boxing.. He's crazy asf but he's touched by god in terms of boxing

Sanity? When he competed Fischer was extremely correct, fabulously well groomed and respectful of his opponents across the board. No doubt the Soviet strategems drove him crazy which explains his outbursts in 1972. His life after that is irrelevant to the chess world. 10/10 hands down.

These stupid comments saying current GMs have engine. So what? If Fischer was here he would have it also. They study Fischer themselves.

Fischer: G = 9, E = 8, I = 10, S = 5 Magnus: G = 9, E = 10, I = 9, S = 9

@neolord50pro77

Жыл бұрын

Who is the top Genius = 10 then?

@TeemuSintonen

Жыл бұрын

@@neolord50pro77 I don't know... Paul Murphy? 10/10 genius/insane 🤔

@1Plebeian

Жыл бұрын

Fischer wins on E though. Magnus is fun because of the internet and his slightly based comments. Give fischer that AND take into account fisher's status.

@Bojack_ff

Жыл бұрын

No one in chess till date has Fischer intellect Man was a genius G = 11

@jeancena3556

Жыл бұрын

F- 9 9 10 4 M- 8 8 8 9

The only person who can give Fischer a 7 on the genius rating and you just have to take it

@MuhammadAnas-ct5om

9 ай бұрын

You don't know what you're talking about, bobby would wipe the floor with Magnus if he could study stockfish but they did not have them in the old days

@BFCNick

9 ай бұрын

@@MuhammadAnas-ct5om I think both Magnus and Bobby are an example of what might have been if they chose to cure cancer instead of getting hooked on those 64 squares. I do see your point, especially given Fischer's own thoughts on the games' stagnacy and his subsequent creation of Chess960. That being said there is a whole world of factors when playing out that hypothetical, such as what if Magnus played in Fischer's era? I can't imagine he doesn't dominate, seeing what he's done in an era that's benefited from Bobby's influence. So, you're right Bobby might have been an even greater genius, despite Magnus's respectable, non chess academic resume, but in the world of Chess Magnus challenges both Bobby's dominance and Kasparov's longevity. I believe his dismissal of Bobby's contribution is because he sees them as obvious and inevitable, as they have been part of his elementary schooling and he can't imagine not having those mental tools.

they really had to add the sanity at the end... did em dirtaaayyyy ya ya yaa

I LOVE that Capablanca is the standard against which Fischer is compared - and found wanting. Too few people know of him, too few people take him seriously. Capablanca is right up there, and he would shine so brightly if his era didn't have the bad luck of falling in between two world wars.

Fischer in his peak would eat Magnus for breakfast

@TurdBoi-tf5lf

Ай бұрын

Nope

@julianc691

Ай бұрын

@@TurdBoi-tf5lf 🤣🤣🤣

Prime Fischer would absolutely demolish this guy

@mitchellallen9106

Ай бұрын

? Prime Fischer would demolish Magnus Carlson? Lol what’re you smoking

Dude looks like if XQC had a dad

This guy is everything Bobby Fischer despised about what had become of chess. Magnus is only where he is because of theory, it's become a ridiculous memorization game.

Bobby is still a genius. He knew who the enemy is.

@dragonmartijn

23 күн бұрын

Bobby died in 2008.

FYI, Magnus had a 16 points lead While Bobby had 126 back in the day That is unprecedented and will never be replicated again. If Bobby was not a genius, then idk who is. But we can’t deny it, Magnus is the best chess player in history.

@starkgc

7 ай бұрын

He had matches of 6-0 twice in a row. That’s just insanity. Give him today’s technology and he will be the best.