Fischer's Game Was So Complicated Commentators Thought He Lost
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Robert Byrne vs Robert James Fischer
"The Brilliancy Prize" (game of the day Mar-09-2017)
US Championship (1963/64), New York, NY USA, rd 3, Dec-18
King's Indian Defense: Fianchetto Variation. Immediate Fianchetto (E60)
1. d4 Notes from various sources. 1... Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. g3 c6 4. Bg2 d5 5. cd5 5.Qb3 maintains more tension. -- Fischer 5... cd5 6. Nc3 Bg7 7. e3 O-O 8. Nge2 Nc6 9. O-O b6 10. b3 It's hard for either side to introduce an imbalance into this essentially symmetrical variation. Deadeye equality also ensues afer 10.Nf4 e6 11.b3 Ba6 12.Re1 Rc8 13.Ba3 Re8 14.Rc1 (Stahlberg-Flohr, Kemeri 1937) -- Fischer 10... Ba6 11. Ba3 After White's 11th move I should adjudicate his position as slightly superior, and at worst completely safe. To turn this into a mating position in eleven more moves is more witchcraft than chess! Quite honestly, I do not see the man who can stop Bobby at this time. -- K.F. Kirby, South African Chess Quarterly 11... Re8 12. Qd2 e5! I was a bit worried about weakening my QP, but felt that the tremendous activity obtained by my minor pieces would permit White no time to exploit it. 12...e6 would probably lead to a draw. -- Fischer 13. de5 Ne5 14. Rfd1 "Add another to those melancholy case histories entitled: The Wrong Rook." -- Fischer ~ "This is very much a case of 'the wrong rook'. One can understand Byrne's desire to break the pin on the e2-knight, but this turns out to be less important than other considerations. Fischer spends a lot of time and energy analysing the superior 14. Rad1!, but still comes to the conclusion that Black can keep the advantage." -- John Nunn 14... Nd3 Now it's all systems go for the Fischer rocket. -- Robert Wade 15. Qc2 There is hardly any other defense to the threat of ...Ne4. -- Fischer 15... Nf2! The key to Black's previous play. The complete justification for this sac does not become apparent until White resigns! -- Fischer 16. Kf2 Ng4 17. Kg1 Ne3 18. Qd2 Byrne: As I sat pondering why Fischer would choose such a line, because it was so obviously lost for Black, there suddenly comes... 18... Ng2!! This dazzling move came as the shocker... the culminating combination is of such depth that, even at the very moment at which I resigned, both grandmasters who were commenting on the play for the spectators in a separate room believed I had a won game! -- Robert Byrne 19. Kg2 d4! 20. Nd4 Bb7 The King is at Black's mercy. -- Fischer 21. Kf1 In a room set aside for commentaries on the games in progress, two grandmasters were stating, for the benefit of the spectators, that Byrne had a won game. Byrne's reply to Fischer's next move must have been jaw dropping! -- Wade 21... Qd7 And White resigns. Fischer writes: "A bitter disappointment. I'd hoped for 22.Qf2 Qh3+ 23.Kg1 Re1+!! 24.Rxe1 Bxd4 with mate to follow shortly."
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Happy Birthday, Bobby!
@hansolowe19
Жыл бұрын
Byrne is pronounced "burn". It is probably an old spelling, but I don't know.
@nicbentulan
Жыл бұрын
However... while Bobby Fischer would side with Wesley So over Magnus Carlsen & Hikaru Nakamura as the real world champion, I'm not sure Bobby Fischer would side with Hans Niemann over Magnus Carlsen. If so, then I'm not sure what to think about this. Relatedly: It's possible FIDE lowered the time controls in the 2022 WFRCC to favour not Magnus Carlsen over Wesley So but Ian Nepomniachtchi over both Magnus Carlsen & Wesley So. Again, I'm not sure what to think about this. Source: ZS4ZPF
@bassmw8175
Жыл бұрын
@@hansolowe19 Byrne is an Irish name and the spelling is correct
@Chillypuwn
Жыл бұрын
This is a legendary game. I can't believe you haven't covered it yet. Crazy! Such a gem! I really love how you explained the concept of the wrong rook so well. Great video!
@mr.barnes2630
Жыл бұрын
Small correction though, on March 8 Capablanca died. He was born on November 19.
"The ability to play chess is the sign of a gentleman. The ability to play chess well is the sign of a wasted life" Paul Morphy
@depausvandelilithkerk5785
Жыл бұрын
The best quotes are simultaneously painfull, funny and true.......yours (Paul Morphy's) is a good example
@nicbentulan
Жыл бұрын
The ability to play 9LX is the sign of a gentleman or a lady. The ability to play 9LX well is the sign that you're not Magnus Carlsen. Source: ZS4ZPF Edit: Why the 24 likes? I'm saying Magnus Carlsen sucks at 9LX. Edit 2 : Wow 54 likes? Didn't realise so many people agreed with me that Magnus SUCKS at 9LX.
@nicbentulan
Жыл бұрын
@@depausvandelilithkerk5785 i have an upgrade: The ability to play 9LX is the sign of a gentleman or a lady. The ability to play 9LX well is the sign that you're not Magnus Carlsen. Source: ZS4ZPF
@detectivemarkseven
Жыл бұрын
@@nicbentulan Can you post again the previous lengthy comment you've written on why Magnus hates Americans?
@nicbentulan
Жыл бұрын
@@user-cu6bo1sz8v chess is a waste of life. 9LX isn't.
"Whenever you have to make a rook move, and both rooks are available for said move, you should evaluate which rook to move and, once you have made up your mind, move the other one." -Savielly Tartakower
@design7054
Жыл бұрын
ROFL.
@RMF49
Жыл бұрын
Great line.
@hjhjhjwh
Жыл бұрын
It works though
@Alex-bq2vs
11 ай бұрын
The good doctor, Dr. Tartakower was right!
@scottrackley4457
10 ай бұрын
this is truth
In an era when engines were inconsequential, the depth that Fisher was able to calculate was nothing less than extraordinary
@johngrey5806
Жыл бұрын
A perfect statement, marred only by the inaccuracy of missing a period at the end.
@mounirzouhari6453
Жыл бұрын
@@johngrey5806 lol do you think you're smart by phrasing your sentence that way?
@johngrey5806
Жыл бұрын
@@mounirzouhari6453 your lack of punctuation and capitalization is shocking!
@urth1g
Жыл бұрын
Verily, one cannot but applaud the fastidiousness with which the commenter scrutinized the original statement for its grammatical accuracy. Methinks, we ought to nominate them for the most prestigious award of 'Grammar Police Officer of the Year', for their unwavering dedication to the proper use of the Queen's English!
@TomThePuss
Жыл бұрын
@@johngrey5806bro think he the thinker
The fact that Fischer is able to consistently top engine moves that long ago is absolutely absurd. Dude was basically an engine
@davidsvarrer8942
Жыл бұрын
Well then he should be stripped for his medals as he was surely cheating in the same way as Hans was cheating. This should serve to stop idiotic judges from their judgmental behaviours when they have no proof and only assumptions. Hans surely appears as a swindler. The only way he can be judged is by catching him. That has not happened. Therefore he shall not be mistreated like he currently has been. So. It is apparently possible to play like our contemporary 2023 machines back in the 1960's. Then why are anyone ln Hans's neck now without evidence? Circumstantial evidence is indeed not enough.
@robbiepreble5974
Жыл бұрын
Look at how long ago the evergreen game was
@turnbackthealarm
Жыл бұрын
this is something of an exagerration if you study his book my 60 greatest games, he often gives long lines that dont really stand up to analysis. Even here at 6:54 the commentator mentions that Fischer had a prepared line that Averbakh showed actually doesnt work.
@georgeallee16
Жыл бұрын
@@turnbackthealarm lol of course it’s an exaggeration…. Saying Fischer is a basically an engine is by definition an exaggeration… but thanks for the explanation
@Sajuek
Жыл бұрын
And a racist.
"As soon as Fischer gains even the slightest advantage, he begins playing like a machine"- Tigran Petrosian
@wiebenijenhuis1825
Жыл бұрын
Liers will be kicked off!!!!!
@duffman18
Жыл бұрын
Is this a metaphor or does he mean he played like a chess computer?
@edenli6421
Жыл бұрын
@@duffman18 they did not have engines, or good ones anyways at the time. Playing like a machine probably means like an unstoppable force.
@nicknewman7848
Жыл бұрын
@@edenli6421 I think he was referring to the way a machine performs a task without any humanity or sympathy. He's comparing Fischer to the efficiency of a machine but also making a point about how ruthless he was if you gave him an advantage
@grantdillon3420
Жыл бұрын
@@wiebenijenhuis1825 God bless the true!
That performance by Fischer in the US Championship was insane: perfect 11/11, three and a half points above second place. What a monster, nobody could touch him.
@chessvibes3182
Жыл бұрын
This game solved my dilemma of title of chess goat between Fischer and Magnus
@ayanbandyopadhyay7767
Жыл бұрын
@@chessvibes3182 yeah, the answer is Garry Kasparov
@hyzercreek
Жыл бұрын
@@ayanbandyopadhyay7767 Kasparov was the strongest of the 4 K's by a small margin, the only K that ever played Fischer was Korchnoi, and Fischer was out of his league. Fischer beats any K easily. Magnus would give him trouble.
@dodekaedius
Жыл бұрын
Tbf, he just had to beat US players..
@HarbingerOfDuh
Жыл бұрын
@@dodekaedius Ha, fair, but Reshevsky and Benko were no slouches. And of course Fischer went on to take the world championship in convincing fashion, so he was plenty monstrous outside the US too. If he'd come up in his career with chess engines the way all today's GMs have, he'd give Carlsen a run for his money, no question.
What is really amazing about Fisher is that his peak rating 50 years ago was astonishing 2785, which is great today! It took 20 years to catch up with that rating and Kasparov managed to do it. Only a few among the best super GMs have higher rating today. The second stuff is that he did everything by himself, alone. He practically defeated the whole Soviet Olympic team in the world title match vs Spasky and when the Russians were absolutely the best chess team ever. That's why I consider Fisher the GOAT.
@nekrataali
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely nuts with the Olympic match vs. Spasky. Fisher was in his hotel room by himself with no way to contact anyone because of Cold War politics. Spasky had the entire Soviet team in his room pouring over the game and coming up with lines. Fisher just shows up the next day and ends the game the way you would hustle someone in the park lmao 😂
@dontvoteforanybody3715
Жыл бұрын
It is very likely that Fischer's rating hadn't caught up to his actual playing strength, as well. His rating was still on the upward part of the curve; it hadn't plateaued yet. He would easily have broken 2800 had he kept playing at the same strength he showed in 1970-72.
@georgericher3996
Жыл бұрын
No computers to help him he was a pure genius
@Rspknlikeab0ssxd
Жыл бұрын
@@nekrataali I think William Lombardy was his second and they still corresponded. From what I remember from reading about the match, Fischer would do his own analysis, and then ask for Lombardy's (say, when Fischer was to continue an endgame the next day)
@chrisbaldwin3148
Жыл бұрын
A 1972 rating of 2785 = a 2023 rating of 2850. Inflation.
I usually get mad when GMs give up too early but in this case it was kinda impressive how early Byrne realized he was screwed lol. Well playing resignation Robert. Great game Bobby and happy birthday
@yume-e
Жыл бұрын
Fischer definitely got mad that Byrne resigned. He was bitterly disappointed that he was unable to get all of his brilliancy into the record.
@shaundiltz5821
Жыл бұрын
@@yume-e yah I woulda been mad too.
@joejoe-ds8xr
Жыл бұрын
isn't it almost a sign of respect to know exactly when you lost..where you are simply showing you are a just as good player but got outplayed for this game
@turnbackthealarm
Жыл бұрын
@@yume-e I'd like to see a reference for that. I mean Fischer could be angry for any reason but I dont recall anyone every saying that.
@SamuelBuildsBiz
11 ай бұрын
I don’t understand why Masters resign too early.. like Robert Byrne still had so much material.. kinda pathetic
Both of the Byrne brothers got immortalised by Fischer in legendary games that will never be forgotten.
@allynkahn8609
11 ай бұрын
When Donald Byrne played 13 year old Bobby Fischer (“the game of the century”), Donald also saw how he was about to be checkmated. However, realizing the extraordinary talent of this youngster who was an unknown at the the time, Donald Byrne made an interesting decision. He played the game out to the end, because he realized that this game would be published throughout the chess world.
The Fischer Prize of $64,000 for anyone who could equal Fischer's feat of 11-0 came from this tournament. Needless to say, no one has ever come close to claiming it. Nor will anyone in the future. I began following Bobby when he was thirteen years old and I was twelve. To my mind, his games are the greatest in chess lore from an artistic point of view. One never tires of replaying them. Even his losses have a brilliancy about them. On your birthday cake, Mr. Fischer, there needs to be sixty-four candles with four letters in the middle: G.O.A.T.
@kd5018
Жыл бұрын
Bobby Fischer is dead
@Sajuek
Жыл бұрын
Why do you worship a traitor and racist anti semite?
@vertexblue1007
Жыл бұрын
He died so no birthday cake
@judhudon6235
11 ай бұрын
@@vertexblue1007 Fischer died by his games live on.
@victoroliva5347
11 ай бұрын
well said.
"What would the continuation be for Rd1?" Fisher: proceeds to explain with 15 moves deep a winning position Niemann: "Chess speaks for itself"
@johnsmoak8237
9 ай бұрын
Carlson: "what's different about Hikaru and I? Well...were simply..better at chess.."
@dantedeloden
7 ай бұрын
Niemann: "Chess vibrates for itself"
@michaelblankenau6598
4 ай бұрын
@@johnsmoak8237Hikaru is to Carlsen as Bisguier was to Fischer
Those born too late to remember Fischer probably can’t quite appreciate how extraordinary his genius really was. He was so far ahead of the rest of the field that it was ridiculous to even compare him with the others. He was simply in a class by himself. Like the great racehorse, Secretariat, at the Belmont Stakes, no one else was even close.
@Iannypoo85
Жыл бұрын
Two great forces known for their depth of calculation and sharp tactics, Fischer and Secretariat.
@nirmalyamisra
11 ай бұрын
thanks, learnt something new, didnt know about the horse
@syourke3
11 ай бұрын
@@nirmalyamisra Secretatiat was like a modern day Pegasus. That horse could fly!! 🏇
I have never seen such a final position, where all the winner's pieces are still on the 2 back rows. Plus the winner has one peace less. Magic.
@JimBalter
Жыл бұрын
With the exception of knights, that's where the belong. The bishops and queen are on powerful diagonals and the queen and king-rook are on open files. Of course if Byrne hadn't resigned on that move, the queen would have been advanced to h3.
@mattsmith1440
10 ай бұрын
@@JimBalter Thanks for pointing that out. I hadn't really considered that before, but now that you mention it it does seem to make sense.
Bobby Fischer--The Very Last of the Lone World Beaters in Chess. After that, World Champions were all supported by teams of helpers and analysts, and coaches. Bobby entered History All Alone.
@mikelynch-zeroviewz2507
5 ай бұрын
I think they did have a "second" ... i believe Brady was Fischers second .. he wrote an amazing book about Fischer "Portrait of a Prodigy" .. great read ..
@lezty
3 ай бұрын
Now games are boring because it's all engine Learned moves and nothing surprising ever happens end it all goes to the end game every time
One of the greatest resignations in chess history is how I have always viewed this game. It isn't, at least to me, been easy to see that white was completely lost at the end, even though he was, and Byrne recognized it. By the way, most of us American chessplayers remember Robert Byrne better for his chess columns in The New York Times. I followed every single World Championship from 1984 until 2000 by reading his columns covering the games.
@Rspknlikeab0ssxd
Жыл бұрын
I never knew he had such a column, but Robert Byrne was strong so that would've been a cool column to read
@chadknight4379
Жыл бұрын
Respect to the seniority 💯
@paulsnyder2736
8 ай бұрын
Byrne was undoubtedly the best chess columnist ever. I use to buy The NY Times just to catch his column.
@tykemorris
7 ай бұрын
I confess I really don't see why resignation Was The only answer, which is why I don't win awards for brilliance.
@lucasdaniel98
6 ай бұрын
I love protitutes😊
Fischer was ahead of his time. Phenomenal over-board analysis.
11 out of 11 against grandmasters is insane!! Fischer, might always be the GOAT.
@Me-uv6kc
5 ай бұрын
I don't think everyone at the us chess championship were grandmasters (if you look at the table Donald Byrne is in last and he was an IM), US chess has gotten insanely stronger after Fischer
@cptparlaya
4 ай бұрын
Not after Fischer, because of Fischer. @@Me-uv6kc
Byrne Brothers be like: "Did we snatch this kid's candy someday? Why's he hunting us so ruthlessly!" HBD, GOAT!
@nicbentulan
Жыл бұрын
Bobby Fischer is MTOAT if not GOAT. But I heard GOAT is just Magnus, Garry or Bobby. Well Magnus & Garry are cheaters, so Bobby is GOAT & MTOAT. Yay! Source: ZS4ZPF
Im so glad you don't edit out the part of you looking for the standings, or anytime something like that happens. It really adds to the charm of the video
Every time I come back to this game, my reaction is always the same: 'What happened?' Everything looks so good for White. Then everything falls apart...
Although the commentators believed the game was winning for Robert, it was really winning for Robert
Congratulations to Larry Evans for winning the tournament. And a superb performance from Bobby Fischer in his exhibition. Happy birthday Bobby!
OMG I've been looking for this game forever! I had an old Kasparov electronic chess board from the 80's or 90's that came with a booklet that had a section about great games of all time. I remember something to the effect of (paraphrased) "all the commentators thought his game was lost, until he found this brilliant queen move up one square idea that blew everyone away". Finally here it is!!! Thank you, agadmator!
@sawqs94
Жыл бұрын
Very satisfying, right?
@Wargasm54
Жыл бұрын
Ha! I had the same board 😎
@JimBalter
Жыл бұрын
It's not like he "found" the move; he had it planned.
@MrSupernova111
Жыл бұрын
You're looking for this: Chessnetwork - Bobby Fischer's 21-move brilliancy
@tbcstuff3634
Жыл бұрын
@@JimBalter He found the move, there were no engines to prepare for games all these moves were ones he found on his own some before the game but he found them nevertheless.
The combinations were too crazy. The setup was incredible. Might I suggest you cover the game between Fischer and Ulf Andersson in 1971? Thank you. #suggestion
@ryoma1412
Жыл бұрын
+1
@piyushjha757
Жыл бұрын
#suggestion
@dead6123
Жыл бұрын
#suggestion
@GG-jg6py
Жыл бұрын
#suggestion
@aayanansari700
Жыл бұрын
#suggestion
What makes Fischer's performance in this game so impressive is not just his individual moves, but the way he was able to combine them into a cohesive and devastating attack. He demonstrated a remarkable ability to see beyond the immediate position and anticipate the long-term consequences of his moves.
@Tletna
9 ай бұрын
That's true. Even if computer analysis says his moves weren't perfect since technically Byrne could have responded, Fischer seemed to have a sense of where Byrne was going, not just which moves were best. And, as this video showed, Fischer had ideas of what to do even had Byrne more properly responded. Fischer truly was one of the best chess players of all time if not the best depending upon how one defines it and accounts for modern changes in chess.
Bobby knows how to improve the slightest advantage and push for a win, so beautiful
I’m so happy you finally covered this game, my favorite Fischer game, and some of the best commentary from his book.
Thanks for your excellent commentary as well as your very polite demeanor. You help make chess more fun for chess players of various skills. I look forward to all of you posts.
You do great videos but I've been following you for a few years and it's just awesome to see you doing so well and looking healthy and engaged. Thanks for being such a huge contributor to the community, you've helped a lot.
@agadmator
Жыл бұрын
Thanks man! Appreciate it
@calebrimbor1730
Жыл бұрын
@@agadmator no worries! Your love for the game is an inspiration and has taught me a lot
Hi Agadmator, I just want to say that I love you and your videos, and I have been watching you for over 2 years now. You are a very calm and collected gentleman and your videos make me enjoy chess the way it should be. Wish you the best health and best wishes.
Excellent birthday recap... totally enjoyed it. The "who won 2nd" reference is such an apt summary!
Happy birthday Bobby Fischer. And thank you for analyzing this game, maybe my favorite Fischer game and I love hearing your take on it!
Whenever I watch a Bobby Fischer game, the moves always appear 'lucky'. The mystery behind Fischer though is they aren't lucky, they are planned. His opponents fall into a trap, making them 'unlucky', so I guess that is why. Happy Birthday.
@larrylindgren9484
Жыл бұрын
Guys who hate Fischer says he got lucky. The guy he was playing made a mistake. They seem to say it after every game Fischer won. Fischer is either a genius or the luckiest player ever born. He got lucky to win 11 games here and the 20 in a row later on:)
@blucat4
Жыл бұрын
@@larrylindgren9484 Hi, can I ask a question? I don't play chess, (I used to just a bit in school decades ago), but why is it so hard? I mean can't you just look at lines, horizontal and diagonal, and after awhile you would get to know all the sorts of combinations there are? Is that what Fischer did? Or it it a matter of him being able to visualise every combination for more moves into the future? Does anyone know how he did it? Did he explain it at all? Are there people who are so good at it they just don't play? Cheers.
I always appreciate a good game! Thanks agadmator for keeping the history of these players alive!! I’ve grown to love chess and these type of vids always keep the love high!
Fischer was hugely dominating over the field in his prime playing days. Fischer random chess is just genius insight on what is best for the game. I for the longest time used to think Fischer was the GOAT, until about 2018. RIP Bobby, the chess world has much gratitude for your play and contributions.
@duffman18
Жыл бұрын
⠀ Who do you think is the GOAT now? Bobby Fischer managed to make chess more of a big deal than anyone else before or since. Despite the new found popularity of chess with Internet streamers that began during the pandemic, it still isn't quite mainstream. 99 out of 100 people on the street that you ask will say they've never watched a Magnus Carlsen chess game, for example. Actually it's probably more like 999 out of 1000, who've never watched one or his games. Internet streaming is big but it's still quite a niche thing in the context of the whole world. Most people still just watch TV. But Fischer made it so all his big chess matches were watched and followed like Superbowls and World Series etc. Everybody was hooked, watching the matches. Especially the ones against soviet chess players. Fischer became a symbol of the west during the cold war because of that. Of course it's a shame Fischer became severely mentally ill and refused to take meds and get mental healthcare for it, and left the US to go into permanent self-exile, while he spouted off racist anti-semitic nonsense to anyone who would listen. But I'm ignoring that part, I'm only talking about his chess ability and how he made chess popular than it's ever been before or since, he's the cause of that peak. We've never seen anything like it. The only other times chess and similar games have become a popular widespre thing again in more recent decades is when chess grandmasters have played computers, because so many chess players and computer scientists said that computers were unable to beat a human, just because of the way they are. But that was disproven when Deep Blue beat Kasparov. And then much more recently, a computer finally beat the world champion at the game Go, decades after the first computer to beat the world champion of chess. Go is apparently much harder to program a computer for, because I guess there's significantly more possibilities. It's why no computer has been able to beat grandmasters at Shogi (Japanese chess) yet. Because in Shogi you capture pieces like normal but then you can actually use those pieces, place them on the board again to join your army (the pieces are all flat 2 sided tiles so you flip them over so that it'll be the colour of your team, so you won't get confused as to who owns which pieces all the time, but you do have to learn what the Japanese kanji written on each of them means, it's their name, and all the tiles are identical pieces of wood. It's a bit confusing for the first handful of games but yeah it's worth learning). But yeah, because you can choose to add pieces you've capture to your army to grow it (or choose NOT to do that) it means there's millions of times more possibilities that open up for each move you make, compared to chess, and no current computer or even supercomputer can tackle this problem yet. Once quantum computers become a thing though, it'll be enough to beat a Shogi grandma stir By the way you absolutely _MUST_ try shogi. It's my favourite form of chess, for sure. It's really so fresh and unique compared to chess and other variants of chess like Fischer Random Chess (aka Chess960). But it also is still mostly chess and you dna still apply what you know from chess to it. Though don't expect it to be easy to start beating people at it. Whenever chess grandma stirs have faced even low level Shogi grandmasters, the Shogi ones always win. Always. It's the same vice versa, Shogi grandma stirs that have never played or learned chess try to play even a low level chess grandmaster, the chess player always wins. Because only by playing a game do you learn every tiny little thing about it that's not written down anywhere in a book that teaches you to advance your chess playing or in a video guide for how to get better at chess or anything like that. And it's always those very fine margins that win chess matches at the top level. Everything the best grandmasters do is really subtle. It comes with playing chess for over 10,000 hours. Eventually you stop being able to see the board like normal, and instead just see all the lines each piece can travel in, and the dozens of different possibilities for the next 5, 8, even 10 moves ahead. How did I get onto this topic? I do apologise, I tend to ramble after I've had my morning coffee, which is what I've just drank. But you _DEFINITELY_ definitely definitely definitely definitely definitely definitely definitely definitely definitely definitely definitely definitely _DEFINITELY_ must try Shogi. You must. That's an order. A command. Because I mean, I'm pretty terrible at chess. I used to be in the chess club for years when I was a schoolkid, but that's decades ago now, and I couldn't beat a goldfish these days. Yet I enjoyed Shogi so much that it quickly became my favourite form of chess that I've played, even though I'm even worse at it then I am at chess. So someone who's actually good at chess, like you probably are, will get way more enjoyment out of it than I did. The more you know about chess, the more you'll be able to enjoy the differences. Again it's mostly the same as chess, like 70% is the same. But it's different enough that it feels like a whole new experience, something even chess variants like Bobby Fischer Chess, or Double Chess don't give you (though Double Chess is awesome in its own way just cos of how ridiculous it is lol, I wish some chess grandmasters would play it; essentially you have a 16x12 rectangular chess board, for 128 squares, double the 64 squares on a regular 8x8 chess board, you have 16 pawns instead of 8, 4 rooks/castles, 4 bishops, 4 knights, 2 Queens, and 2 Kings. Give it a go, on a smartphone app. I'm sure one already exists, for double chess) But yeah, play Shogi. Definitely play Shogi. There's already multiple Shogi phone/tablet/chromebook apps for Shogi, in English. I actually first found out about it and played it because of the Nintendo game 51 Clubhouse Games, or whatever it's called. It's got every kind of traditional game on there, chess is there obviously. But it also has Shogi, and I discovered early on that Shogi is more fun than chess. This Nintendo collection of games has easy modes for many of them. Which on chess is that when you click on a piece it'll show you the lines of where the piece can travel to, which is great for beginners. Well Shogi has the same thing, which is useful because yeah not everything is exactly the same, rhee are differences. And so a shogi phone app might he great once you've already learned how to play it, it doesn't teach you how to play and so you'd have to brute force it. If you have a Nintendo switch, definitely get the 51 clubhouse games game collection (it's called 51 worldwide games in my country, the UK, and it seems to have different names in every country it's released in, but the number 51 is always in the name, so that'll tell you what it is, plus looking at the description of it on a website or on the Nintendo e-shop, or on the back of the box if you buy it physically in a shop) But you absolutely must try Shogi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Damn it I'm sorry I do apologise for this long rambling comment that has nothing to do with anything let alone the thing you originally commented. I just get stuck in a zone sometimes and have to keep writing until I finish my thought. ⠀
@blucat4
Жыл бұрын
@@duffman18 Lol, Hi duffman, I'm the same except I usually pace around the room for 3 hours thinking, rather than writing it down. But you sound like me. I'm not trying shogi though, sorry. 🙂
@christophercarlone9945
11 ай бұрын
@@duffman18I never ever ever usually say this but...TL;DR
@adityanegi1604
11 ай бұрын
@@christophercarlone9945 Fischer the goat, made chess a global sensation even bigger than it is rn, play Shogi because it's cool.
@zacharysherry2910
9 ай бұрын
@@blucat4"Magnus" is undoubtedly the answer to that question. Tal, Fischer, Morphy, Kasparov... Sorry you guys never even had a chance against him (My opinion obviously).
Beautiful game and analysis Agad! As for Capablanca, unfortunately he died on 8 March, his birthday is in 19 November
@agadmator
Жыл бұрын
Yes, that is what I meant :)
@KrisztianNyuzo
Жыл бұрын
@@agadmator but ok, sorry about that.
My favourite Fischer game ever, his "brilliancy prize" game, demolishing another top player in 21 moves in a classical game from a seemingly equal position out of the opening....
Very impressed by you going through all of the home prep and other lines relevant to the game, it made watching this video much more interesting!
This channel is so good and yet also popular; it restores my faith in humanity a little. Any community would be very fortunate to have you as a part of it.
You know what would be great: Do a whole series on games where one player gets the advantage of just one pawn and because of that, they win. I find it so hard to understand why after so many moves, "and he is up a pawn, so he would win" is a thing like in the variation of this game. That would be great. Up A Pawn Video Series, please.
I dare say Bobby could give our engines trouble. I'm not a master, but I can appreciate the subtlety and the strength of his defenses even while attacking.
I friggin love this channel and this guy. I legit look forward to watching every single game and re-watch most
Love the video! Byrne is an Irish surname pronounced “Burn”
Byrne is pronounced as 'burn' as in 'burn the cakes'. Just to increase your wonderful knowledge. ;-)
Robert: Why is Fischer playing such moves Commentators: Now Robert Byrne is winning Narrator: He was not winning
love your commentary and the thorough analysis and the historical perspective. terrific chess instruction and entertainment. as always. thanks. hello!
I've been waiting for Agad to review this game since I first saw it some years ago, I'm so glad he finally did
It's the combination of artistic flair and ruthless killing machine that does it for me. I'm about 1800 at my best, I don't study or take the game too seriously.. I'm not an expert in chess games or history at all. But, when I watch the analysis of Fischer's great games they always seem to have this artistic beauty because of the moment it dawns on me what he's doing I feel like I'm suddenly in the shoes of his victims and sitting opposite a genius. It's like getting murdered by Hannibal Lecter 😂 I respect other great players and enjoy the analysis of their games but nobody quite does it for me in the same way.
@Tletna
9 ай бұрын
Haha, yes, Fischer aka the Moriarty or Jack the Ripper of chess. That's grim but likely accurate way of putting it. He seemed to combine the artistry of a master composer or story teller with the brutal coldness of a machine is his games. I watched a dramatization of him as a kid once, not real but based on him in real life. It showed him playing with the pieces as if they were real characters in a story and the game of chess was just simulating real battles. I'm sure that wasn't really what happened but I like to think Fischer still was sort of like that. Like he had an understanding of chess on a totally different level than most other players. Sure he sounded like kind of an ass in interviews and strange, even rude, and very simplistic in chess approach but that was just his public presentation. His actual thought process during games (with more difficult opponents at least) was likely very deep and like he was composing a masterpiece.
How cool was it to show Magnus standings while talking about Bobby! Epic agad
Not to be forgotten : Robert Byrne was chess columnist at New York Times during 34 years ! :-) and the current internet era provides an archive of some of its columns
Fischer is immortal - the world will never see anything like him again.
Bobby Fischer was a pure chess genius who lived and breathed chess. He was once asked about what he liked to do in his leisure time and he replied that he would play over recent tournament games whilst listening to rock n' roll. When asked "Wouldn't listening to rock n' roll be a distraction?" he said, "No, it's only a distraction if I am playing seriously. Besides, the games aren't all that good anyway."
For me, the star move was that last scoot forward for the black queen. Not just because it was winning and induced resignation, but because its a hard move to find at the end of a long calculation. Most players would be looking for more checks, or captures, or trippling down pressure on another piece. That you could somehow play a calm move like that at the end of a sacrifice sequence and hold everything together while giving the opponent zero counterplay....is, as they say, a brilliancy!
@JimBalter
Жыл бұрын
It's not *that* hard to see that white is vulnerable on the h3-f1 diagonal.
@ABCNDi
10 ай бұрын
It felt like cocking a gun of a move.
Been a little behind on your videos and for good reason. My son was born a few days ago on March 9th. So happy he can share a birthday with such a legend.
In the 1980s, my chess trainer SM Gary Sanders (2450) defeated Robert Byrne as black in a Poisoned Pawn Najdorf. It was Gary's greatest game (RIP Gary!).
For the record, Byrne is pronounced like the word "burn".
The thing I remember about Fischer is that he was always playing for the win. Around that time, the world champion was someone like Tigran Petrosian, who didn't win that much but almost never lost. Fischer thought that was disgraceful. You will find lots of games where Fischer came up with a surprise combination in a dull-looking position. His opponent had kind of lost interest, but Fischer never did. That's why he gets results like 11/11; he didn't want to give anyone a draw.
@larrylindgren9484
Жыл бұрын
I believe he got money for games won not draws. So, Fischer played to win because he got paid more when he won. Fischer much took a draw. It lost him money.
Yesterday only we watched "Pawn Sacrifice" and today this amazing game. Thank you Bobby! for these wonderful games.
Thanks for your videos! you really explain what happens very well!
@bills.4242
Жыл бұрын
oh! and what do you think about Magnus dissing Fischer? Fischer didn't have high tech computers teaching him all the great moves, Bobby had to come up with strategies all on his own, and seems unfair that Magnus ranks Bobby so low..
Fischer's birthday being just one day off Women's day is the most poetic thing ever lol.
Fischer was indeed a magician on the board.
@avg_user-dd2yb
Жыл бұрын
Better than tal?
@TheRomanianWolf
Жыл бұрын
@@avg_user-dd2yb he defeated Tal a lot of times...
You just took me back to my 1980s, when I walked into a bookstore in Ventura and bought that paperback Fischer book for 50c...I remember the original notation KR4 etc....what a different world that was. Thanks for posting!
Robert Byrne and Samuel Reshevsky were both excellent U.S. Grandmasters. Bobby Fischer won 8 U.S. Chess Championships Samuel Reshevsky won 7 U.S. Chess Championships, yet holds titles for most finishes in top 3, (15), most games played, (269), and most games won, (127). What amazes me is how competitive Robert Byrne and Samuel Reshevsky both were when the were Old, those two were both competitive after 70 years old.
A wonderful remembrance of a great champion. R.I.P.
Mind blowing game look so simple but so complex. Could not see all the possibilities. Fisher was so brilliant.
Knowing that most of chest host KZread video"find the win" moves usually involves sacrificing material I saw the night taking the Pawn on f2; and I saw that it was just losing for the Jing not to recapture the night on f2; then I saw the f6 night flying in for a check to the King; and then I saw the king moves what I thought was a safe square until the video showed me otherwise and that's all I could find.
You are great agadmaster, keep up the good work 👍!
One of Fischer's greatest games! A note on pronunciation: Byrne sounds like "burn" in American English.
@haddockpaddock9462
Жыл бұрын
(Or in any form of English.)
There can be no doubt that Bobby was the greatest ever. Great as this 11-0 performance was, it was dwarfed by his 20 consecutive victories in the 70-72 interzonals against far stronger opponents. Also I recall that a Fischer loss at that time was international news! Finally, the culminating combination of the Acevedo game in the '70 chess Olympiad has to be the most subtlety brilliant ever played. You should do that one if not already done.
@JimBalter
Жыл бұрын
"against far stronger opponents" Um, perhaps you mean higher rated.
@judhudon6235
Жыл бұрын
Totally agree. That 20-game streak will never be approached again. I doubt seriously if anyone will be able to get a 10-game streak at the highest level.
@aryamansrikant9425
Жыл бұрын
@@judhudon6235 didn't Fabiano Caruana get a 7 game streak?
@carlossimancas9867
10 ай бұрын
The way Spassky demolished, in Candidates matches, Keres, Geller two times), Tal, Larsen and Korchnoi between 1964 and 1968, when all those tremendous players were at their prime, is even more impresive than Fischer victories against Taimanov, Larsen and Petrosian. Fischer was a genious, but not the only one in the history of chess. The best ever??? Its a very debatable question with no effective answer
@InControlIC
10 ай бұрын
@@carlossimancas9867 Wellwhy anyone couldn’t till now get a perfect score the way Fischer did against top and champions, question your debatable mind… he has done it without engines and by no one has on his side and he buried Spassky too… yeah your intelligence is not even close to debatable
Your ability to share and guide your most humble students, like me, is deeply appreciated. You dis-cover great beauty and riches to those of us of limited perception.
Hi agadmator, at 9:51 , Stockfish 16.0 shows that 15. Qc2 was the blunder that made it easier for Fischer to win. Yes, 14. …,Rad1 was the correct rook move that resulted in only a slight advantage for black (-0.6,depth 35), and Byrnes move 14. …,Rfd4 was bad (-1.5,depth 35), but the ensuing 15. Qc2 resulted in (-7.3,depth 35) and was the big blunder, with Fischer playing “computeresque” for the final crushing moves. If Byrne had played 15. …,Nf4 instead of 15. …,Qc2, Fischer would only had a small advantage (-1.4,depth 35), so I don’t know why you are saying that Byrne couldn’t see that he was in a huge hole after 15. Qc2, Nxf2. You would think a GM would see the mistake after Fischer made 15. …,Nxf2.
if bobby didn't born Chess wouldn't be the same, what a genius..
Fischer had an almost superhuman ability to see deep ramifications within the board. Thanks a lot for the analysis.
Definitely my favorite game, one of the few games I learned when I start kearning chess. I suggested this a few months ago. Nice one!
I've tried chess and improved my Elo from 800 to 1400, I've stopped playing as much as it's probably the most difficult competitive game I've played, even sports. This game is truly in its own level because it also one of the most beautiful games there is.
This game is a perfect reflection of all the gas lighting people did about him in his personal life. No, he wasn't lost, crazy or mistaken...he was just on a completely different level than everyone else. Most won't even realize it until the game is over.
@vertexblue1007
Жыл бұрын
No he was literally schizophrenic and paranoid
@MrFreeGman
Жыл бұрын
@@vertexblue1007 According to the people who he criticized and their apologists. I should start using that as an excuse whenever someone criticizes me. "What? No, I didn't do that. You're just a schizo!"
@vertexblue1007
11 ай бұрын
@@MrFreeGman it's well know the Russians were organizing draws but using facts to make up conspiracies doesn't make them true. He was schizophrenic and paranoid and very anti semetic. This isn't making things up, this is based on his own words and opinions of medical professionals
@MrFreeGman
11 ай бұрын
@@vertexblue1007 He was never diagnosed with a mental illness, nor medicated for one, and lived independently until the end. He is very clearly lucid, logiclal and aware in every interview with him that I've ever seen. These "medical experts" didn't even know him personally and were merely abusing their positions of authority because he said some naughty things about some protected groups; it's easier to just call someone schizo than to debate someone much smarter than you. Your slander says more about who you are as a person than anything else. As far as "anti-semitism" goes, you're just operating on a lower level and choose to ignore your inherent ability to recognize patterns. You choose ignorance. That's your choice.
@vertexblue1007
11 ай бұрын
@@MrFreeGman so you're a troll or you're just crazy
Great vid thank you. Love your knowledge re Fischer! ..
Always enjoy your analyses.
King of the Kings.👑 A spectacular victory for Bobby Fischer.🏆
FINALLY a Game from bobby
@nicbentulan
Жыл бұрын
Everyone game from Wesley So is like a game from Bobby Fischer since Wesley So is Bobby Fischer's one and only successor in classical time controls.
Excellent analysis. I had to watch it again these months later. I am amazed for the same reasons commenters offer below. I was a very young teenager when Fischer was winning the world championship. The whole USA was following the match and interest in playing chess skyrocketed. It was exciting!
This is one of the things that KZread is great for. I have always been interested in chess analysis, but this video format makes it so much easier to understand. Very well explained and visualized. I was able to follow the entire thing, and I'm just floored at this man's genius. (I almost guessed it: I picked Ne1, not really knowing exactly why, just something about the fork that created felt enticing). Has anyone in chess history ever been better at making moves that seem absurd until some hidden trick about them is revealed? What a mind this man had. No wonder he hard such a hard time keeping it centered when he wasn't playing chess.
Bobby Fischer is surely one of the greatest players in chess.
@nicbentulan
Жыл бұрын
Bobby Fischer is MTOAT if not GOAT. But I heard GOAT is just Magnus, Garry or Bobby. Well Magnus & Garry are cheaters, so Bobby is GOAT & MTOAT. Yay! Source: ZS4ZPF
@uselessdegenerate7565
Жыл бұрын
@@nicbentulan you're a sad obsessed man
@trapmango4110
Жыл бұрын
@@nicbentulan If you meant cheaters by their accessibility to theories and engines, thats a based reason. Every1 has access. Chess now is the most competitive it has ever been. High level games are solved up to 20 to 30 moves and often brought to endgames. And we know magnus can squeeze a win out of even the most drawish endgames. Can bobby fight hours maintaining an equal game against magnus? + endgame?
@Nicks721
Жыл бұрын
It's obvious that you don't have enough brain cells for chess,so quit it
@nicbentulan
Жыл бұрын
@@trapmango4110 of course not. i'm talking about when 1 - garry cheated judit in 1994 2 - magnus cheated alireza in 2019 3 - magnus cheated danya in 2021 4 - magnus cheated danya in 2022 5 - magnus cheated nepo in 2021
"Chess is about truth" - Bob
@nicbentulan
Жыл бұрын
It used to be. Now 9LX is about truth. Chess is about mainly memory and prearrangement and then about truth. Source: ZS4ZPF
first video of yours i had to watch back a few times, unbelievable
Brillante combinación!.gracias agadmator's.Saludos.
There may have been better players in the history of chess but Fischer helped the popularity of the game more than anyone. Without him this channel may have never existed.
I got into chess very recently and Bobby Fischer is hands down the most famous chess player of all time. I knew who he was even before I got into chess, I had no idea about Magnus Carlsen, Paul Morphy, Spassky, Karpov, Kasparov, etc. But Bobby Fischer is known by many non chess enthusiasts.
I think Byrne and Oscar Panno were the last amateur Grandmasters. Panno was an engineer, and Byrne was a university professor when he made his last GM norm. He did become a professional a few years later, though. Panno was the second World Junior Champion and is now 88 years old. Byrne died at 84 in 2013.
I love your content and you show how Bobby was in a league of his own
I love how grandmasters are like "this move is impossible you see because after nine moves black is at a slight positional disadvantage"
@RoundShades
8 ай бұрын
A significant one. You'd definitely have to be under 1500 to throw the game from that advantage, though I'd play it through just to make sure he don't mix some position up and hangs a queen. It happens
I'm a simple man. I see a video from Agadmator, I click.
bobby fischer really became a true American hero as he got older and shared his philosophy with the world, truly a legend
Great game, thanks for bring it to us. By the way, you pronounce the surname "Byrne," exactly the same as the word "Burn." You don't try and mush "By" and "Urn," together.
i don't know how this guy Robert said his name, but Byrne would usually be pronounced like "burn"
I love how Agad rightly praises Fischer regardless of his reputation.
@James-vc1kc
Жыл бұрын
He had some absolutely horrible opinions about the world, but that doesn’t negate he was the most brilliant chess player of his time
Thanks for this video. 😁 I was just watching the Bobby Fischer movies and documentaries a few weeks ago. ♚
Thank you for the commentary. Well done.
Why do I see all the brilliant moves when other people play but I can't find them when I play?
@philipr1567
Жыл бұрын
What you need, my friend, is agadmator whispering in your ear: "pause the game and find the winning move"
@howardsmith9342
Жыл бұрын
Probably because you know the brilliant moves are there when you're looking at games like this, but when it's your game you're more distracted by your extraneous thoughts, previous moves, stuff going on around you in the room, etc. and you don't recognize the opportunities right in front of you. That's been my experience, anyway.