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I have a 300 AAC upper that I bought to hunt with. I saw your video (and several others) of the Federal Fusion 150 grain gel tests and that is what I went with. My choice of using a 300 AAC is related to health. I recently started on blood thinners and the 30-06 just bruises my shoulder to much now. The lighter recoil of the 300 AAC, coupled with the further reduction of recoil on the AR platform, and short range hunting, it just made sense for me.🤷‍♂ Thanks for all the 300 Blk testing👍

@masonleather

7 ай бұрын

Glad to be of service!

Soo the best hunting ammo I've found for the 300blk is barnes 110gr tac-tx. It has a very low minimum expansion velocity, it's accurate and it works every time. I've taken multiple deer with it including two with one bullet. Both died 15 yards apart. Expensive but worth it.

@masonleather

7 ай бұрын

I’ve heard nothing but good things about it, I’ll add it to the lineup when I can

Another great review and video. All of my hunting friends who shoot 300 Blackout follow a "100 yds or less" protocol shooting 135 to 150 gr bullets. They all agree if the target is within 100 yards the 300 Blackout is an exceptionally effective caliber for small to medium size game.

@glennllewellyn7369

11 күн бұрын

Took 4 deer with it last night - chest shot at 150-170 yards. All good. 110 Vmax.

Latest Hornady manual has reloading data for the 135 gr FTX. Max loads get to 2100 fps.

Try the Barnes VOR-TX Ammunition 300 AAC Blackout 110 Grain TAC-TX Polymer Tipped Spitzer Flat Base Lead Then Fiocchi 125 grain hornady SST. Great tests, love watching them

Bring out the 110 Barnes

16" Barrel is the way to go to keep the velocity up .

Try some of the Fiocchi 300 Blackout 125gr SST. It's loaded with Hornady's SST bullet. I've killed many pigs with it.

I'd have to agree with you. Again. Lol. That's why I subbed a little while back. You do a great job sticking to facts and displaying the results without a lot of opinionated mumbo jumbo. Very much unlike a lot of the other guys. Thanks for the information. Keep up the good work. 👍👍

@masonleather

7 ай бұрын

Glad to be of service!

I bet a 20 inch barrel would increase expansion to 2x, and get the penetration down to 20 inches or so. Any way you look at it it will get the job done

Nice video. I have been enjoying your videos series on the 300 Blk. I like hunting hogs w my Blackout and am very interested in seeing what the different ammunition manufacturers are producing. Would really like to see a video on the Defiant Munitions 110gr TCX.

@masonleather

7 ай бұрын

Glad to be of service!

@quietcowboy6635

2 ай бұрын

Shoot 110 grain I’ve killed couple at 330 and one at 242 with 7.5” upper been using ammo inc started with hornady black 110 ammo is cheaper

Interesting to see the 300 Blk Out. I’m not familiar with it . Be cool to see a Grendel test

Great channel found you a couple days ago. I like these test videos. I hunt in the swamps of South Carolina and my farthest shot is about 75 yards max. I like the Winchester Deerseason load 152 grain.

@masonleather

7 ай бұрын

Glad to be of service!

I’ve never seen these for sale… although I have seen the bullets as loading components… Great test… 👍🏻

Great video. 300 BO is a lot less powerful than a .30-30 when comparing ballistics, energy, speed, trajectory, and performance using the same weight bullets. The Blackout is not even close. I know some shoot deer with it, but I know of people that have killed a lot of deer with a .22 Hornet too, but that doesn't mean it's a good choice for that job. It's a great close range varmint gun from my perspective. It's best niche would be suppressed with subsonic ammo for varmints without disturbing the neighbors. Thanks for doing such a fantastic job with your videos. I consider your gel tests as being by far the best. Thank you.

@masonleather

7 ай бұрын

Glad to be of service! It’s funny you mention the 22 Hornet, that’s something I say a lot because I’ve actually killed decent size wild hogs with it, that just because it can doesn’t make it a good idea

@allthingsconsidered3211

7 ай бұрын

Check out ron spomer outdoors 30-30 vs 300 blackout Past 150 yards, 300 blackout is going faster than a comparable 30-30, and delivers more energy.

@gullahgeechee2699

4 ай бұрын

@@allthingsconsidered3211exactly! some people don’t know their calibers.30-30 beats it until almost 200yards then blackout takes over

I really want to get one of those rifles!

Awesome videos. Just bought the cuff from your review. Excited to add it to my setup. You should review Gorilla Silverback 300 Blk 205gr ammo. Use it for coyote and deer with great success.

much appreciated Sir!

It would be interesting to see how all these .300 bko do at 50 yards vs 100 yards on the expansion and penetration.. I watched the Winchester USA ready test with the 125 gr open tip. I will say the mushrooms on those were pretty impressive for a .300 bko, would be interesting to see if those same rounds are giving similar results at 50 yards vs the 100 yard performance. In a real world hunting situation most shots with it will be under a 100 yards in most areas.

Looks like these will kill a deer to me! Now unleash the 44Mag reviews. I honestly want to see how the 44mag compares to the 243 and 300blk reviews . The 223 will be interesting as well.

@masonleather

7 ай бұрын

I’m going as fast as I can, they’re coming 🤣👍🏼

I'm still a bit standoffish when it comes to this loading but not for the reason(s) you might think. I, and several of my friends, have had trouble with the flex tip ammo from Hornady. The two biggest have been inconsistent/iffy expansion with some, not all but some, bullets acting more like FMJs that just pass straight through and (with the lever gun version ONLY) deformed bullet tips which apparently leads to poor or degraded accuracy and poor to nonexistent expansion. On paper key holing is not uncommon. I keep a couple of boxes on hand for my Winchester '94 and Marlin 336s but I tend to utilize more "traditional." rounds for hunting and humane shots on deer and hogs. Same for my friends. I've been considering the purchase of one of the straight wall ".300s" to supplement, but not replace, my current lever gun choices, but I'm going to take a soft pass on the .300 Blackout for the time being. Having said all that, I did enjoy and appreciate this video and hope to see more on the caliber from you as time allows. Take care and good huntin'!

Gorilla has some nice heavy bullets with great expansion. I myself use 110gr vmax and ive had great sucess

The reason you see some rounds outperform the box specs is because you are shooting out of a long barrel and lots of manufacturers get their data from sbr length barrels. The 300 aac was designed to take out targets of the 2 legged type at closer ranges with subs so considering it does as well as it does is a minor miracle. I hunt a few places that only offer shorter range shots and have had solid luck with the Barnes 120 grain tac-x. I load them myself usually and shooting out of a bolt action I can get a little better performance than most factory stuff. For lots of hunters it’s a viable choice

I swapped my 44mag lever gun for a bolt action 300 aac, i expect better performance on deer than i got with the 44. We shall see.

I took a buck last weekend with this ammo and it did just fine. I will be buying more of this.

I've had this Hornady 135gr ammo for about 4 years. I bought it for deer, but I prefer a faster velocity bullet. Did ok at the range, around 1.5 moa. I'm now most excited to try Sig Elite 120gr Hunter.

Great video!

@masonleather

7 ай бұрын

Thanks!

Definitely choosing .30-30 over any .300 BLK I've ever seen.

Try to get your hands on some Sig Sauer 120 grain copper. I’ve been using it with success on pigs and deer for a few years. I’m curious how it holds up agains other options on the market.

Seems like the varmint rounds work pretty good in the 300 BO. My guess is because of low velocity plus bullet construction it don’t blow up on impact

I missed a monster buck today due to a miss fire using these rounds in my AR. When I fired the shot sounded strange and weak. The deer dropped down a bit but didn’t go down and was still standing there so I went to put another in it but no fire. I looked down and it was all jammed up it hadn’t ejected the first round but also jammed another round in. Had to watch it run away as I tried to clear the gun and chamber another round. Ended up finding no hair or blood anywhere after searching for a while. This was at only 30 ish yards.

I wonder about Liberty ammunition overwatch or Animal instinct. Its a lighter 96g bullet but they push 2500FPS

I’m OK with the bullet moving a little bit slower than what it says on the box? I think, consistent, penetration and expansion is way more important. That probably means they’ll have a really nice consistent grouping as well.

If you shoot reloads, try the Lehigh defense, 115g Controlled Chaos

Bought some of that 125gr OT Winny red box off your earlier test 👍 Hornady just always overrating their velocities…

@masonleather

7 ай бұрын

I’m going to try and pick off some smaller hogs with it to see how it does on game

Nice video! Is there any reason you mounted your scope directly to the receiver instead of using the picatinny rail that it came with?

@masonleather

7 ай бұрын

Thanks! To get it as low as possible, thus improving cheek weld/sight plane for maximum ability to shoot precisely. I also like the ejection port area as open as possible, the Talley Ultralights are completely out of the way.

Would this ammo be good for home defenses in a 8 inch barrel? 🤔

Found it: editing after I see results :) - Edit: Cool, about what I thought in the other comment. Seems like a great hunting option for 300BLK ranges. GMX is nice, definitely has more range. Should be the same as CX. But, I did experience some sideways zingers (after explosive expansion)

You should test makers 110 trex or rex on gel and compare too these

I have both rifles, killing power the 30 30 beats the 300 blackout hands down

@masonleather

7 ай бұрын

Absolutely

@terrymcclendon8715

7 ай бұрын

@@masonleather absolutely bro bro I hunt a lot with the 30 30 and mind you I have never shot big hogs with it but I have killed both my biggest white tails with it with the Winchester 150 gr hollow point, both were not even close to 200 lbs, God bless you and good hunting to you!

@yellowdog762jb

7 ай бұрын

I've shot several deer and a few 75 to 150 lb hogs with the 300 BO. Where I hunt, deer are small, does often weigh under 100 lbs on the hoof. I not impressed w 300 BO. I also made a big mistake trying 208 grain open tip subsonics. That was really a big mistake. Shot a few critters w 150 Blacktips also. Those killed 'em, but not anywhere close to the way a 270/308 does. IMO, for hunters, 300 BO is a solution looking for a problem. Subsonic rounds aren't always good at expansion, and they have a terrible trajectory if you don't know the distance to your target beforehand. And to improve your bullet performance you generally need to pay a lot more for premium ammo than you do for most other hunting rounds. Super sonic rounds have better, but still ho hum performance on game. Might as well shoot 7.62x39 in an AR, or use a 30-30. For deer and pigs, I like rounds that are 6mm+ caliber, and close to or that exceed 2000 ft per sec on the target, not just at the muzzle. Discussing hydro static shock seems to be out of fashion now a days, but I think there's something to it. I seem to have far more DRT results when using expanding rounds that meet or exceed the above. I don't hunt with the larger caliber AR based rounds such as 350 L and above, but I think I'd be okay with one of those in some circumstances. A slow moving bullet that makes a hole large enough to stick your finger through doesn’t need as much hydrostatic shock as a 25 to 30 caliber bullet in most cases. But where I hunt, I consider their rainbow trajectory a disadvantage though. To me, 6.5 G and 6.8 SPC seem like sort of the minimum for fast, human kills. I have not tried 6mm ARC. It seems like a pretty small diameter though. The 243 has a great track record, but it's a lot faster than 6mm ARC. I've tried medium game loads in .223 with grain weights in the upper 70s to 80's, but in my experience, those rounds just ice pick the animals. They eventually die, but they often travel a ways before they do, and they don't leave much of a blood trail. That's a significant issue for me as I shoot a lot of hogs after dark. Looking for a hog that might still be alive by flashlight is not fun, especially when you're by yourself, and they always go for the thick stuff. I like DRTs, or at least being able to see it laying on the ground pretty close to where it was shot, and making ear and neck shots can be tricky after dark. That's just my 2 cents. I appreciate the vids, I've watched most of them. Usually after watching one on 300 BO, I think to myself "And that's why I stopped using the 300 for hunting". But I'll take your recommendations into consideration in the event I decide to un-retire my 300 BO for hunting.

@ronwinn879

7 ай бұрын

I agree - good points on 300 BO. I started using the same rifle last year. Was shocked at accuracy. Shot 3 does in Texas hill country with 110 V max. Thought was the extra velocity would make up for lighter bullet. 2 deer at 75 yards ran about 40-50 yards before dropping. 1 at 125 yards got away. 2 that dropped - the bullets both stuck in hide and rib cage on other side. I’m going to try some 125 grain hollow points this year. However, this one may be retired for the 30-30.

@jimmyschock9395

7 ай бұрын

​@@ronwinn879try makers 110 rex or trex

Could you do a comparison between 16" and 18" bbl 300 blk out with velocity and expansion?

@masonleather

24 күн бұрын

The terminal difference would be extremely minimal if at all. The velocity difference would be extremely minimal, 300 blackout isn’t a long-barrel cartridge and its most prevalent use by far is in 16” barrels. Also, the impact velocity at 50 or 100 yards would be affected even less than by the 2” difference in barrel length, meaning the bullet will slow down more due to distance than barrel length affect.

Seems to be alot of confusion, as to ideal bullet weight for deer hunting. What do you say 300 blackout , actual hunters?

What brand is the 20 round magazine.

👍👍

Is the Barnes 120 gr TTSX load up for testing?

@masonleather

7 ай бұрын

At some point

I wanna see a 308 test

So I'm up in Canada 🇨🇦 300 blackout what would you hunt with this

@masonleather

7 ай бұрын

Nothing if I had something else, it’s not a great or even good hunting cartridge in my opinion

@BigdaddyE71

7 ай бұрын

Can't agree more! A 243 blows it away, and with probably less recoil!@@masonleather

It's a little weaker than the 30-30 but still plenty adequate to do the job on deer. Better off with the 350 Legend for a close range deer round.

I killed a few deer with the 125 sst fiocchi rounds all passed thru the deer and did the job but is better suited for playing with subs the lehigh subs are decent but that about it lol

If you put a 300 HAM'R barrel ($250 from Wilson Combat) on that Ruger then you would get more like 2150 FPS and have legit 100-125 yard range on deer.

@masonleather

7 ай бұрын

I’ll just use a 30-30

@chadperry4021

7 ай бұрын

300 hammer deserves more love. I don’t have one but it’s on my list.

Ranch is grendel or 7.62 ways better black out sucks lol

I wanted to like 300 blackout but every expansion video i watch makes me steer away from hunting with the 300 blackout.

110 grain Barnes...that is all

7.62 39 hits alot harder

50 to 75 yards max my opinion

I’ll not enter into the debate about which cartridge is better. The best cartridge to shoot is the one you like for the hunting you do. Other opinions are noted, but are irrelevant. I will say that many 300 BLK ammunition manufacturers have failed to put a working bullet on top of their 300 BLK cases. This is a rip-off for the user and it gives the caliber a very bad reputation. Once you pull the trigger, it is the bullet that conveys your intent to the target. Spend as much as you want on your fancy rifle…but shoot the wrong ammo in it and it will not perform. The 300 BLK uses pistol powder, not rifle powder. That’s how it achieves its muzzle velocity in shorter barrels. But this caliber will never have the muzzle velocity of a .308 Win. So don’t ever buy 300 BLK ammo that uses bullets normally found in .308 Win cartridges. It will not expand because the 300 BLK velocity is too slow for the .308 Win bullet erroneously seated into the case. That doesn’t make the 300 BLK a bad round. It means you’re stupid for using the wrong bullet. It’s called physics. There are only a couple of manufacturers who have figured out the secret to getting good performance out of a supersonic 300 BLK. That secret: use a light, fast bullet that is designed to expand at velocities under 2200 ft/sec. Barnes and Nosler have broken the code with their 110 gr ballistic tipped bullets. I handload the Nosler 110 gr Varmageddon bullet and get Vm of 2400 ft/sec out of my suppressed 300 BLK carbine. It is hell on feral hogs out to 140 yds. Am I going to use this platform to try to kill an elk at 600 yds? No…because I’m not stupid. Every weapon has its own kinetic envelope. Know it. Stay within it. Hunt successfully. Pretty simple. And don’t knock the 300 BLK subsonic capability either. Again…pick the right ammo. Hornady figured it out with their 190 gr SubX ammo. Amazing stuff!!! Excellent expansion and tight groups. I’m a big fan of it.

Basically a squib centerfire cartridge, i will stick with a non low velocity round like a 270 win.

I don't care what anyone thinks, The 300 BO is not ethical for hunting game. Just because you can doesn't mean you should. It just doesn't have the juice for ethical kills. Sure it will kill but there are many better options.