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Great video, Jake. Love the KK. I have a KK42 and a large BGE. BGE 15 years old, KK 3 years old. Both work great. Similar concerns with the BGE as the Kamado Joe. I know people love the joe because of the versatility and accessories, but I love simplicity. Large BGE is a very simple kamado. Jake mentions the top vent on the Joe. The smokeware top I have has held up now for 6 years, no loosening around the collar. No signs of stopping and still looks good (stainless steel). The advantage of a BGE over a Joe is that I can still get parts for it 15 years later - they never change it or come out with new models that obsolete any parts. I am a firm believer you can get great results on almost any grill. It's the "cook" not the "cooker". But the KK produces great results due to how thick and well made it is. There's a clear difference between the KK and every other kamado out there. Because I have 15 years of experience on the big green egg, I can get very close, and I'm confident cooking on the Joe really isn't a whole lot different. But the KK is worth the money -- IF YOU USE IT. -- Previous comment about the KK being for rich people, personally, I wouldn't necessarily call that a complete BS comment. Some people just do not cook often enough to justify the expense. If you cook at the frequency of most people, then it's definitely a luxury item like a luxury car or luxury watch. I use my KK42 fairly often, and I bought it for a specific purpose. The KK42 is huge. I can cook a DOZEN pork butts at once. In the KK32 like Jake has you can probably get 8. I pull, bag (in vac seal bags, cool bags down quickly in an ice bath, then vac seal the BBQ). Then I use the vac sealed BBQ for church events and family events and to let relatives and friends take some home. Warm bags up in sous vide or really any heated water (gently), and it's almost like it's freshly pulled pork. To cook a dozen pork butts in my large BGE, I'd have to do 6 cooks. So for me it's about the right tool for the job. I use the KK for big cooks and whenever I want the most moist meat possible. (also b/c of the sheer size of my KK42, I can cook multiple things at once if I'm doing a family dinner - veggies, meat, etc. Not to mention the amount of moisture a KK retains. The more meat I cook at once the better it turns out - it's quite amazing. And there's nothing like a chicken on the KK, either rotisserie or spatchcock. Anyway. You can't go wrong with --any-- high quality kamado, which includes the joe AND the big green egg. The KK is just the pinnacle, that's all - and - if you love cooking on a kamado due to how easy temperature control is, buying a BIG kamado lets you do a big quantity - like a stick burner that you don't have to attend the entire time. And with better moisture retention than a big pellet grill. I'm just a "kamado guy" - that doesn't mean I don't like food made on a bunch of other apparatus. In fact, I'd say there are pitmasters that can certainly cook better food than what I make on my komodo kamado b/c they have spent a lifetime perfecting it. I don't want to spend a lifetime, so - buying a product that makes it easy to make a GREAT product with minimail time investment was worth it to me.

@RumandCook

28 күн бұрын

The cook makes the end product, but a nice cooker certainly helps! Great points. 🍻

@johnscott6311

27 күн бұрын

@@RumandCook maybe you can actually fit 10 pork shoulders on your 32 like you said in the video- do you have the double bottomed drip pan that is shaped like the KK ? My issue with the 42 is how to catch the drippings. I could probably get 15 or 16 on there but making sure something is under them all is the issue. Cheers!

Thank you. Very interesting comparison. Looking forward to more. KK videos. It was the reason I found your channel.

@RumandCook

Ай бұрын

Thanks for watching. 🍻

This was a great comparison and exactly what I wanted to see. Thanks!

@RumandCook

Ай бұрын

Thanks, happy to help! 🍻

Great stuff. KK is why I subbed in the first place as barely anyone does KK content (and most of the ones that do are only reviews so you see even less people cook with it), so it's nice to see it again. I'd like to get one someday, but I probably need to get the deck rebuilt first and got slapped with a large debt to pay down last year, so who knows when. I know the rotisserie used a side bracket and so does the shelf, so if you want to swap between them do you need to swap the bracket? That would be annoying.

@RumandCook

Ай бұрын

I’m a firm believer in positive thinking. Just tell yourself you will have one someday and it will happen. You remove the shelf, but the rest can stay. Little difficult the first time but easy after that. Works way better with the lid closed properly. 🍻

Great comparison Jake. Looking forward to seeing more KK cooks!!!!

@RumandCook

Ай бұрын

Thanks! Lots coming. Already recorded two. 🍻

Those Komodo Kamados are definitely works of art. This was a great video!

@RumandCook

Ай бұрын

Thanks, yep 💯 🍻

Great job on changing up your business model. Hope it continues to grow for you.

@RumandCook

Ай бұрын

Thank you! 🍻

I’ve got a kamado joe big joe. Love it, that said I convinced my wife we need the kk. Surprisingly she didn’t object. Great video

@RumandCook

Ай бұрын

Thanks! Sounds like a keeper hah. Won’t regret the upgrade that’s for sure. 🍻

Excellent vid!

@RumandCook

Ай бұрын

Thanks! 🍻

Fantastic Video Jake Good to see the KKback in action.

I wanted to buy your KK! Glad to see you kept it - wise choice. Some clown said on Smokin Dads BBQ said the kk is for rich guys - what a clown. I have a 23KK and love it. I have two used cars and a small house ok - no rich guy here. But after considering all options, I spent a few extra bucks on the KK and absolutely thrilled that I did. It’s something that I’ll be giving to my daughter someday. It’s a show piece that cooks absolutely phenomenally. You just cannot KK the results on any similar cooker. And absolutely no rust. Thanks for the great video. Honestly - the extra cost is worth every penny.

@RumandCook

Ай бұрын

Yeah for sure. I’m a firm believer in you get what you pay for. It’s a once in a life time purchase. I bought 4 cheap gas grills before I broke down and bought a nice one. It worked way better than I imaged and held up extremely well. 🍻

@jtlbb2

Ай бұрын

I would say it is for rich people. I personally cannot justify the price for something that doesn’t cook any better than something significantly cheaper. And even if I could, why would I? I’m not concerned with passing my pits down to my kids. Hell, I’d just keep what I have and then buy them their own and it’d still be cheaper than owning a single KK.

@RumandCook

Ай бұрын

@jtlbb2 it’s about priorities. You said you couldn’t justify it. I see many people with a tiny house and a super expensive car in their driveway. Don’t they all have 4 wheels? Starbucks is for rich people. Why the hell would I spend $5+ on a crappy cup of coffee or fancy insert name here. Why spend twice as much to eat out when you can cook a way better meal at home? We all have different priorities. Just everyone doesn’t think twice about all the small purchases that add up over many years. A $5 coffee, 5 days a week for 10 years is $12k. I choose not to waste money on silly stuff every day. A KK does cook better as well. Much better design for pizza and rotisserie. The thermo mass also improves the final product as well. It also holds temps far better. 🍻

@user-oo1mz9cj4s

Ай бұрын

I like nice stuff. Especially stuff that is functional but at the same time well made and beautiful. Having owned a KJ, I switched to a 23KK and have never regretted the decision. Does the 23KK produce better food than the KJ -> No. But the 23KK looks stunning.

@jtlbb2

Ай бұрын

@@RumandCook there is a major difference between small purchases that add up to a large purchase over many years vs a large upfront purchase. Otherwise, with that logic no one should buy a used car. Because a brand new car will last years longer and there’d be less maintenance. But not everyone can afford $30,000+ upfront for a brand new car regardless of whether it’d last longer or have less maintenance. And even if KK can cook better, that’s subjective. I seriously doubt if someone cooked me a rack of ribs on a KK vs KJ, that there’d be that big of a difference. If that were true then every competition pitmaster would be using one.

Thanks!

@RumandCook

25 күн бұрын

No thank you! 🍻

Great video! I must admit I was shocked to see you KJ cover. I have one covering my KJKJ and the quality is amazing. Very heavy duty with great stitching and a great rubberized handle. And we're in the Arizona sun but it has yet to fade. Oh yeah, I paid $40.

@RumandCook

Ай бұрын

If I had to guess they have cut some corners. 2 in a year is pretty sad. 🍻

Even though I have neither of these smokers, I hope that those that own these, appreciate the video that Jake made!

@RumandCook

Ай бұрын

Thanks! What do you have again? I can’t remember. 🍻

@fredschaffer7330

Ай бұрын

@@RumandCook I have a Yoder 640, a pit boss pellet, a weber kettle and a Backwoods Chubby 3400

@RumandCook

Ай бұрын

@fredschaffer7330 cool thanks. I couldn’t remember! 🍻

The big bad 32 which is a gorgeous piece, retails at USD 6425 + extras, which is a big step from from KJ big joe series 3. It is as you have said in the past a serious luxury option in the grilling world.

@RumandCook

Ай бұрын

Yeah the 32” is twice the cost, but easily 4x more cooking space. As many out there have said, the highest quality Kamado available. 🍻

Cheers.

@RumandCook

Ай бұрын

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I use a paint brush to clean the ash inside the Kamado Joe. Works really well.

@RumandCook

Ай бұрын

Good idea. 🍻

The KK is a thing of beauty.

@RumandCook

Ай бұрын

Yeah, pictures don’t do it justice. One of the only smokers out there that you want to put some wax on 🤣🍻

I have had a Joe for 12-15 years I have enjoyed it a lot but my Yoder is still my all time favorite tell more about your master class I have had Traeger, Louisiana Grill nothing compares to Yoder

@RumandCook

Ай бұрын

Mastering class will be 15ish hours of in-depth long form video. Have to chop out too much on YT. I’m not sure I’ll get it finished this year or not. I want it to be complete. I also have a vision of an in person class at some point, but not there yet. 🍻

Good video. Kamado Joe lowered the temperature of the slow roller because the teflon coating kept peeling off.

@RumandCook

Ай бұрын

Is it confirmed they used Teflon?? 🍻

Question: Why do you use the red grill at all if you have the Rolls Royce version KK? Is it for YT content? Seems like a waste of deck space to have both. Please clarify.

@RumandCook

Ай бұрын

Change is Coming! - Channel Update kzread.info/dash/bejne/ppeImqNqhrivmdY.html 🍻

@Torus2X

Ай бұрын

@@RumandCook Cool. I get it. There’s something to be said about sticking to doing what you love. I for one will appreciate more KK content. I’m in the process of buying one of those bad boys and you played a big part in my decision to get one.

@RumandCook

Ай бұрын

@Torus2X yeah just trying to adjust and find my audience. Happy to be back with my KK though. Anyone using a Kamado can still gain value. Congrats on getting a KK. It won’t disappoint! If you use this link before buying you will spend the same amount, but I will get a tiny percentage to help the channel out: bbq.rumandcook.com/KomodoKamado 🍻

@Torus2X

Ай бұрын

@@RumandCook OK good to know. I’ll use your link. I’m building my backyard BBQ setup now (almost finished). It will have a KK and a Lynx 36” (all trident) and I’ll probably keep my well used Traeger for now. My wife and I went Carnivore and I’m turning into a steak snob. Little did I know, my new hobby would be bbq grilling. Do you have a Lynx affiliate link?

@RumandCook

Ай бұрын

@Torus2X 🤣 oh boy, that will ruin restaurants for you forever hah. I rarely eat steak out now unless I go to my fav place. I prefer to spend the money and order high end steak at home now. Thanks for that, unfortunately no Lynx link, but you’ll love that as well. 🍻

The red color must have been bugging you again. 😁Great video, Jake.

@RumandCook

Ай бұрын

🤣🤣 Funny enough red and brown are my least favorite colors unless it’s a 69 Camaro in Candy Apple red. Actually my wife’s Mazda has a really nice color of red as well. But that’s about it haha 🍻

Maybe if I hit the lottery I can upgrade! God video

@RumandCook

Ай бұрын

Thanks! 🍻

So, why did you buy the Big Joe when you already had the Komodo?

@RumandCook

Ай бұрын

Change is Coming! - Channel Update kzread.info/dash/bejne/ppeImqNqhrivmdY.html 🍻

According to you, the food is "slightly better tasting" on the KK compared to the KJ. Hardly worth spending twice the money ! I'm very happy with my KJ Big Joe 3 ! You should challenge James from Smoking Dad BBQ !

@RumandCook

Ай бұрын

Not worth it for you. All cars have 4 wheels, some want a KIA, some want a Porsche. I wanted the extra space and true hot/cold zone. 🍻

@patrickbilodeau3785

Ай бұрын

@@RumandCook exactly my point ! It's just to flash ! Pretty sure you'd lose out to James in a cook-off ! Another point you mention is that the KK is so thick that it's even more efficient than the KJ and thus moves less air. Less air usually means less smoke ! What you failed to understand about the KJ slow roller is that it was designed to move air more efficiently. not "provide more smoke". The KK is glorified charcoal oven and is no longer considered a smoker IMO ! All that said, I enjoy your content and will continue following !

@RumandCook

Ай бұрын

@patrickbilodeau3785 lol yeah Ibought an expensive grill to show off 🙄. I bought it long before I had a KZread channel, thanks. James showed there was barely a difference in flavor with the slow roller as well. It’s a gimmick at best. A glorified charcoal oven? Give your head a shake, you clearly don’t have a clue what you are talking about. If it is, so is your KJ. That’s the stupidest comment I’ve ever seen. Please don’t subscribe, it might be contagious. 🍻