Just How Strong is Vergil? Devil May cry Powerscaling

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Exactly how strong is the Legendary Devil Hunter, Dante…’s brother? Let's find out shall we?
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  • @SirDankleberry
    @SirDankleberry2 жыл бұрын

    Dante sold Vergil his quicksilver and doppelganger abilities for pizza money.

  • @ihevmilkdhou

    @ihevmilkdhou

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nah!.. vergil doesn't have quicksiver He is quicksilver

  • @SansBadTime

    @SansBadTime

    Жыл бұрын

    I like that they somewhat bring back the 2 "extra" styles from dmc3 but give it to vergil, I do wish dante had Ifrit tho

  • @BlackWolf41529
    @BlackWolf415293 жыл бұрын

    And people say he can’t beat sephiroth why?

  • @sideswipe9095

    @sideswipe9095

    3 жыл бұрын

    Maybe they're referring to his DMC3 incarnation, because anything above that is just Vergil bullying Sephiroth

  • @Chaos_Vergil

    @Chaos_Vergil

    3 жыл бұрын

    True

  • @jhevgainz2307

    @jhevgainz2307

    3 жыл бұрын

    They're idiots

  • @blazz2869

    @blazz2869

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@sideswipe9095 his DMC3 Version Also Beats Sephiroth what does Sephiroth do against Passive Mind Madness and Fear Manipulation?

  • @elishaj2977

    @elishaj2977

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@blazz2869 Sephiroth might be able to resist that considering the fact that his mind did not dissolve in the lifestream which is timeless and contains everyone's souls across time who came from Gaia and normally souls get dissolved into the lifestream, but Sephiroth can exist in it just fine. DMC3 Vergil would get beaten by Sephiroth as DMC3 Vergil is solar system level at best while Sephiroth scales to summons like Knights of the Round who create their own space that is at least a galaxy or two wide and shatters it with their attacks which Sephiroth canonically tanks during the final battle in FF7 in accordance to the Ultimania which pretty much WoG. Also supernova is pretty similar to other summons as Sephy literally bfr's people into a separate space of his own creation that is bigger than the milky way and creates an explosion so powerful it destroys the dimension yet Sephiroth kinda just tanks the explosion btw as does the main cast as well. Sephiroth also has access to supernova in every Canon iteration even before he becomes Safer Sephiroth. Sephiroth is also blindingly fast because he casually scales above Bahamut Fury's speed in each of his Canon iterations cause Zack Fair defeated Bahamut Fury with moderate difficulty who could do this: (kzread.info/dash/bejne/fIWLtKN-hrO8k8Y.html) and his supernova crosses galaxies very swiftly which Sephiroth canonically controls via telekinesis as stated in the Ultimania. Sephiroth is no joke, but DMC5 Vergil could easily beat him because of multiversal attack potency and immeasurable speed feats based on Dante casually outpacing the Fury. I got my info for Seph from this video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/k59rq8V6lMnPdLg.html which happened on Zimatorn's channel who basically convinced Excaliber596 that Vergil is multiversal in DMC5.

  • @lightningstorm6008
    @lightningstorm6008 Жыл бұрын

    I kinda want a rematch of Vergil and Sephiroth. Dmc3 Vergil was on crack, but Dmc5 is now on both crack and steroids.Not to mention he has his *M O T I V A T I O N*

  • @V1_Ultrakiller

    @V1_Ultrakiller

    Жыл бұрын

    You wanna bully Sephiroth? You can just take Vergil from any of the games besides 3 and he claps *HARD*

  • @GoddessWhoUsedToKnowToMuch
    @GoddessWhoUsedToKnowToMuch Жыл бұрын

    Vergil probably does have Quicksilver since Urizen uses it during his fight.

  • @chestermops3732

    @chestermops3732

    Жыл бұрын

    Wait does Urizen use quicksilver during his last fight with Dante or earlier?

  • @GoddessWhoUsedToKnowToMuch

    @GoddessWhoUsedToKnowToMuch

    Жыл бұрын

    @Chester Mops He uses it during every fight, it's the blue-ish spheres he shoots that slow you down.

  • @Dcraft_TNT
    @Dcraft_TNT2 жыл бұрын

    Holy crap v as a pokemon trainer would be amazing.

  • @thekingofbel6511
    @thekingofbel65113 жыл бұрын

    pit vs samus would be a fun fight, might be a stomp tho, dunno yet.

  • @Pinky_Piie
    @Pinky_Piie Жыл бұрын

    Last time I checked they scaled to complex multi, they 9D in base aswell

  • @yuwannaknownodrip5079

    @yuwannaknownodrip5079

    4 ай бұрын

    That's a fake scan

  • @ichigokurosaki5732
    @ichigokurosaki5732 Жыл бұрын

    Vergil doesn't have motivation He is motivation

  • @ihevmilkdhou
    @ihevmilkdhou2 жыл бұрын

    ah yes! quicksilver.. But not as an ability/style (that slows down time) *he is quicksilver*

  • @simonabreu7390
    @simonabreu7390 Жыл бұрын

    If he scales close to Dante he should be high complex multiversel no?

  • @Kyle_South198
    @Kyle_South1982 жыл бұрын

    Him:it can cut anything me:can he cut water🤣🤣🤣

  • @impracticalnuke

    @impracticalnuke

    2 жыл бұрын

    My man, he's fast enough to cut through rain in DMC3, what you mean?

  • @Kyle_South198

    @Kyle_South198

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@impracticalnuke ik i just learnd it a month ago

  • @reggielacey2235
    @reggielacey22353 жыл бұрын

    Since vergil can turn into v that means he can also turn into urizen which would grant him even more powers. And despite what gameplay say, it was never stated world of v has a time limit, I'm fact if you pay attention to the dialogue, V says" I'm taking my time" meaning he actually chooses go stay out or go back, so the same thing should apply to urizen as well. Plus they both would be WAY powerful then either of there in game counterpart as they scale DIRECTLY to vergil in sdt as evident when vergil uses wov he says "this is power" the same thing he does when he goes into sdt or when he does a super move

  • @JV-km9xk

    @JV-km9xk

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not all gameplay is supposed to be lore accurate, I believe. It's a gameplay mechanic just like how Nero's buster arm grab deals massive damage despite not even using his buster arm (gilgamesh grab) or how Nero's grab deals great amounts of damage to vergil in comparison to a few SDT dante's most powerful attacks. Also in lore, I thought Dante killed V's familiars before his fight with Vergil and thus the end of Vergil's nightmares. I'm sure if he split himself again, shadow, griffon, and nightmare won't be back.

  • @reggielacey2235

    @reggielacey2235

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@JV-km9xk matt Walker said that world of V is canon. Also it makes sense that vergil can summon them and use there abilities as they are just his memories, same with urizen. Also the buster arm thing doesn't make sense, we see nero use the buster arm.

  • @JV-km9xk

    @JV-km9xk

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@reggielacey2235 Can you link me the interview? I've had trouble finding it. As of the Nero's buster arm mechanic, yeah I forgot that it wasn't gilgamesh, I meant to say Artemis. But for Vergil I really mean it because he did way more damage in his grab attack than dante. That or Vergil was weakened and thus the 2nd fight was easier with grab attacks.

  • @kemenger_chaos
    @kemenger_chaos Жыл бұрын

    If he scales to dante he is 9d which puts them at high complex multiversal

  • @Sazid-Shahriyar-Roop

    @Sazid-Shahriyar-Roop

    Жыл бұрын

    How is he 9D? I think he is 5D at best.

  • @kemenger_chaos

    @kemenger_chaos

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Sazid-Shahriyar-Roop POC verbatim says that souls and demons are 9 dimensional

  • @Sazid-Shahriyar-Roop

    @Sazid-Shahriyar-Roop

    Жыл бұрын

    @@kemenger_chaos Oh okay.

  • @aut0mat1c11

    @aut0mat1c11

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@kemenger_chaos aren't those scans removed?

  • @kemenger_chaos

    @kemenger_chaos

    Жыл бұрын

    @@aut0mat1c11 ye in a recent update

  • @theyoungfamily8295
    @theyoungfamily82953 жыл бұрын

    But anyways I got a question? If we replaced 4 out 5, of the furious 5 members from Kung Fu Panda. Leaving only Tigress and replaced them with the TMNT from the (2012) TMNT Nickelodeon show. To fight Tai Lung after he broke out of prison. So basically it would be Tigress, Leonardo, Donatello, Raphael, and Michelangelo Vs Tia Lung? Would this battle be a different outcome from the first?

  • @excaliber596

    @excaliber596

    3 жыл бұрын

    That’s a good question. I think I just found a new short to make.

  • @theyoungfamily8295

    @theyoungfamily8295

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@excaliber596 Thanks i would love to see it.

  • @user-bq1bv3he1e
    @user-bq1bv3he1e Жыл бұрын

    It continues to hide mysteries that neither humans nor demons understand, but all Man possesses these mysteries. A basic nine-dimensional form that, in general, originates from and returns to higher dimensions beyond the Noble Eightfold Path. It contains not only the mind and memory, but also the ontology and its .All information about ancestors.

  • @theyoungfamily8295
    @theyoungfamily82953 жыл бұрын

    Dont forget he has access to ALL of Urizens abilities as well. Since well he is Urizen and he only needs to turn into V because V has contracts on his body that tether him to Phantom, Shadow, & Griffon that Vergil does not have. While Urizens abilities were natural. Meaning he can do everything Urizen can do, this includes: - Using Yamato as crystal force field that can Only be broken once you break the crystal. Considering Dante couldnt with his DT at the beginning of the game it means its hard as FUCK! - Stopping Time/Slowing down time. - Shooting Fire Plasma Balls. - Creating Shockwaves that can appear anywhere (Lore). Gameplay they can only appear across the ground. - Creating Multiple lasers that burn, reflect, and move straight. Meaning they are indeed light speed lasers. He also has his own Block aka Royal Guard. That appears in DMC3 as boss on Dante Must Die and as a Playable Character in 5. This includes: - Blocking/Parrying Attacks with one arm. - Blocking/Parrying attacks with Yamato or Beowulf. - Deflecting Projectiles. OF ALMOST any kind. - Conjuring Small and Large Force Fields on Dante Must Die (DMC3).

  • @thatsit3922

    @thatsit3922

    3 жыл бұрын

    I thought world of v was for gameplay purpose, didn't Griffon,Shadow, and Nightmare was killed by Dante so Vergil didn't have to remember his past as Angelo?

  • @theyoungfamily8295

    @theyoungfamily8295

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@thatsit3922 No Matt Walker Said himself in interview that they wanted to show that V and his familiars could come back at any time

  • @thatsit3922

    @thatsit3922

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@theyoungfamily8295 I didn't know that until now, Thanks for your info

  • @reggielacey2235

    @reggielacey2235

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's not true. Vergil doesn't have any of urizens abilities, at least as vergil. Now if he can turn into urizenz which he could most likely do thanks to world of v, that's a different story.

  • @theyoungfamily8295

    @theyoungfamily8295

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@reggielacey2235 Your thinking of gameplay. Lore wise. Vergil has all of Urizens memories and abilities. The game nerfs Vergil so that he can only do certain moves and abilities. But lore wise. Theres literally no reason why he cant access anything Urizen can do. V is different because his familiars have a body contract with him.

  • @gimarakhirbey909
    @gimarakhirbey9092 жыл бұрын

    You frogot about mirage edge

  • @Ribsi

    @Ribsi

    Жыл бұрын

    Mirage Edge is just a blue Rebellion

  • @amires3727

    @amires3727

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Ribsi not rebellion Blue force edge (Sparda sword before awakening)

  • @Ribsi

    @Ribsi

    Жыл бұрын

    @@amires3727 I meant because of the moveset. I know it's a blue Force Edge, I played DMC 3, but it literally plays like Dantes Rebellion in DMC 5.

  • @ultronxmonika4292
    @ultronxmonika42923 жыл бұрын

    I enjoy your videos

  • @thesoldiertf2774
    @thesoldiertf27747 ай бұрын

    imagine world of urizen was a move you do use as vergil

  • @powerhouse598
    @powerhouse598 Жыл бұрын

    Im just that good.

  • @_speed_0102

    @_speed_0102

    Жыл бұрын

    Im a big fan i love how you use your speed

  • @powerhouse598

    @powerhouse598

    Жыл бұрын

    @@_speed_0102 thank you Flash, sorry about your movie being canceled.

  • @chille003
    @chille0032 жыл бұрын

    Vergil vs Aizen would be a hella great battle ngl

  • @Pinky_Piie

    @Pinky_Piie

    Жыл бұрын

    Vergil slams

  • @chille003

    @chille003

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Pinky_Piie W

  • @TheRealNirox

    @TheRealNirox

    Жыл бұрын

    Hmm interesting... , btw I think Vergil slams, Aizen has immense Reiatsu and he is immortal...but Vergil can bully him with JC end..if he goes devil trigger its gg for Aizen, and in SDT, its a neg diff.

  • @doncinati7644

    @doncinati7644

    Жыл бұрын

    You really pit two of my favorite characters in fiction together lol

  • @abedelrahmanqudih4724

    @abedelrahmanqudih4724

    Жыл бұрын

    Meanwhile in other reality Aizen : no-one can stop me !! Ichigo : really, hi dad can you just hit the shit out of him Vergil : scum !! ( Judgment cut end ) Aizen : what?! Ichigo : thanks dad !! Vergil : when you accept Orihime as your wife i eant to train my grandchildren to defeat Dante , Nero !! Every shinigami : WTF ! Ichigo : dad not in afront of everyone and don't call me Nero !! Orihime : Kurusaki kun ?!

  • @MichaelVickers2007
    @MichaelVickers2007 Жыл бұрын

    Technically Dante is Vergil dos because Vergil is older than Dante

  • @reiujiyatagarasu3910
    @reiujiyatagarasu3910 Жыл бұрын

    Oh I thought Dante and Vergil were complex multiversal

  • @coleymaelan4610
    @coleymaelan46102 жыл бұрын

    they're probably outerversal not multiversal because dante casually kills an entire infinite multiverse or void mundus or he's probably a dimension

  • @demontiming3234

    @demontiming3234

    2 жыл бұрын

    No that’s not true at all, he is scaling based on actuality not your fantasy wank scaling. They are at most in multiversal levels. Nowhere near outer. Writer intent is for them to be in multi universal to multiversal ranges of power so I think I’ll take the writer’s opinion over some egotistical Yotubers you heard say they were outer

  • @coleymaelan4610

    @coleymaelan4610

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@demontiming3234 Yeahh one shotting a being was about to merge an INFINITE SIZE DEMON REAL AND ANOTHER REALM isn't a outerversal feat... It's like saying I can kill God.

  • @thestrangerontheinternet8432

    @thestrangerontheinternet8432

    Жыл бұрын

    @@coleymaelan4610 That’s not what outerversal means you dimwit. Destroying an infinite multiverse only caps at multiversal+, which is an infinity worth of leagues below outer. Outerversal original def: Being transcendent to the concept/idea of spatial-temporal dimensionality. New Outerversal def: Being able to affect, create, or destroy an object that has a number of higher dimensions equating to the number Aleph-2 or above. Think of it like this. High Hyperversal is infinite higher dimensions with every dimension transcending the lower one or viewing the lower one as some inferior structure, or an R>F (basically viewing something below you as purely fiction). Low Outerversal transcends all of that infinitely and it’s the tier which reaches Aleph-1 or an Uncountably Infinite Set. High 1-B (High-Hyper) only has a *countably* infinite set of higher dimensions. High 1-B is infinitely transcended by Low 1-A, and Low 1-A is transcended by 1-A in the same manner as Low 1-A transcending High 1-B. There’s a huge difference. Destroying an infinite multiverse is only 2-A or Multiversal+ without further context. Unless that multiverse has an Aleph-2 number of higher dimensions or something else to prove its 1-A ranking, your argument is wrong on a whole different league.

  • @coleymaelan4610

    @coleymaelan4610

    Жыл бұрын

    @@thestrangerontheinternet8432 wow people repeating to me what I already know. Check what is void Mundus in quora. And if I remember correctly he is omniscient and omnipresent, probably nigh-omnipotent because he probably is. There are a lot of proof that Dante is outerversal in quora, I don't trust reddit because they lowball a lot of characters.

  • @thestrangerontheinternet8432

    @thestrangerontheinternet8432

    Жыл бұрын

    @@coleymaelan4610 “Wow repeating what I already know” You clearly did not know what outerversal meant. You claimed Dante destroying an infinite multiverse or destroying an entire dimension equals to outerversal which is wrong on so many levels. Destroying an infinite multiverse with no further context is Multiversal+/2-A, please get that in your thick skull. I already told you what the definition for outer was so your claim of “already knowing that” is deadass cap. “And if I remember correctly he is omniscient and omnipresent, probably nigh-omnipotent because he probably is” You see what’s wrong here? You’re claiming Void Mundus is nigh omnipotent off of your opinion and head-canons rather than concrete evidence. Also Void Mundus was never relevant to this debate. “There’s a lot of proof Dante is outerversal on Quora” A majority of Dante answers refer to canon Dante, which is who I am using too. The only Dante version that could be outer is the SMT version but that is irrelevant to this talk. “I don’t trust Reddit because they lowball a bunch of characters” Reddit was never mentioned here.

  • @JV-km9xk
    @JV-km9xk2 жыл бұрын

    If Dante was already multiversal since dmc 1 ever since he got DS Sparda, would that make Nero multiversal too with his DT with no Demon artifact to boost him (DS Sparda or Qliphoth Fruit)? I know he beat (cut the hand) Chair Urizen when DT Dante + Sparda couldn't. Also, I don't think Nero surpasses Dante or Vergil if anyone is wondering.

  • @doumbiasana3481

    @doumbiasana3481

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nero is weaker than dante and vergil

  • @xenowarrior282

    @xenowarrior282

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes, he should be multiversal even in dmc4 (although only with Yamato) as he was able to make Dante try in his second fight which was something even Argosax couldn't do. The files in dmc5 state Nero with the Devil Breakers was "stronger than ever" which means he surpasses his dmc4 self even with Yamato. But Nero isn't stronger than Dante and Vergil. You could maybe argue he was stronger than Dante pre-Sin DT but then you would have to bring Majin Form into the equation.

  • @tasia3651
    @tasia3651 Жыл бұрын

    sepiroth is prob weak when fighting vergil cuz vergil is just to fast and the yamato is just to powerful and vergil can slice sepiroth in bits

  • @Lionblaze-Prime
    @Lionblaze-Prime2 жыл бұрын

    I'm confused. If Vergil is multiversal, why is Dante just multi-solar system in his part 2? What did I miss?

  • @dividedbyzero11

    @dividedbyzero11

    2 жыл бұрын

    Dante can’t cut space and time, as he does not have Yamato

  • @Lionblaze-Prime

    @Lionblaze-Prime

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@dividedbyzero11 I don't think that's the issue. Dante and Vergil were absolutely even at the end of dmc5, they should be on equal power. Cutting dimensions (Yamato does not cut time) is a totally different matter.

  • @ihevmilkdhou

    @ihevmilkdhou

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Lionblaze-Prime where you find this "does not cut time" is it true/canon Or just a theory

  • @motivated1444

    @motivated1444

    Жыл бұрын

    Same here dude, im also lost

  • @gohanbeast1177

    @gohanbeast1177

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Lionblaze-Prime Space-Time = Dimensions ... 3 spatial dimensions and one temporal, there is also the fact that the Yamato is sharper and stronger than the Sparda that in the DMC1 artbooks it is clarified that it crosses space-time and that also with the cuts Yamato opens gates between the Human World and the Underworld, said in Gigapede's profile "Access human reality by making a breach in the space-time fabric of human reality" and the same is the case for accessing the Underworld. .. You also have to pass a dimensional barrier between realities.

  • @wolf-vh4ze
    @wolf-vh4ze3 жыл бұрын

    that's cool, but what about nero

  • @yuwannaknownodrip5079
    @yuwannaknownodrip50794 ай бұрын

    Fax even now

  • @bbachannel2917
    @bbachannel29176 ай бұрын

    Idk why ppl say Vergil is boundless

  • @cherechesalexdaniel811
    @cherechesalexdaniel8113 жыл бұрын

    Does this mean that Rebellion and Devil sword Dante have resistence to durability negation since Yamato can’t cut true them?

  • @universemaster100

    @universemaster100

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's not able to cut through cuz rebellion was made from sparda's power just like Yamato and devil sword sparda so it's quite clear you can't cut through something made from the same power source.

  • @theyoungfamily8295

    @theyoungfamily8295

    3 жыл бұрын

    Or its because Vergil doesnt want to cut through it. Vergil has this honorable side to himself. Where he wants to prove he is BETTER then his opponent. So just cutting through Dante or other peoples weapons isnt doing so. It would be proving his weapon is stronger not he himself.

  • @cherechesalexdaniel811

    @cherechesalexdaniel811

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@universemaster100 Yeah but if Dante is in a VS battle and his oponent has an attack or a weapon that ignores durability can Dante just block it with his swords or is it just with Yamato.

  • @universemaster100

    @universemaster100

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@cherechesalexdaniel811 yeahh, that's a good question, since Yamato is the only sword that's this OP and no one else in any game has a sword like that so it's not gonna happen. But let's just say if someone has a sword like that, they too won't be able to cut dante's sword cuz it's not a regular weapon, it is imbued with tremendous demonic power and has many magical abilities and no one else can wield it other than dante, it's connected to his soul. All that makes it enough powerful to block any sword that has abilities similar to Yamato's.

  • @reggielacey2235

    @reggielacey2235

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@cherechesalexdaniel811 well it's not that he doesn't want to it's just that it cant. Its dantes power after all

  • @sussytanjiro7227
    @sussytanjiro7227 Жыл бұрын

    Can you do Jetstream sam please and thank you

  • @chungusfungus6787
    @chungusfungus6787 Жыл бұрын

    Guys, I need points as to why vergil beats Ichigo, I’m way too lazy to research myself but ik he beats Ichigo, pls help

  • @xenowarrior282

    @xenowarrior282

    Жыл бұрын

    He's at bare minimum 9D, but more likely 11D. That alone is enough evidence to prove he wipes everyone in Bleach.

  • @aut0mat1c11

    @aut0mat1c11

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@xenowarrior282 proof, not whatever nonsense you spouted.

  • @rustygmr4916
    @rustygmr4916 Жыл бұрын

    Out of curiosity from the other videos I saw they said Vergil/Dante was planet level so could you tell me if I missed something or explain it to me

  • @thatguykev8695
    @thatguykev86952 жыл бұрын

    I heavily disagree that Vergil’s sin DT would make him a tier above his base but other than that this was a pretty cool short and got me laughing all the time with them puns 😂

  • @paseka6808
    @paseka6808 Жыл бұрын

    Guys im in need of arguments why vergil can beat anos, idc if he cant i still need pleaze

  • @gandalfdawhitekid913
    @gandalfdawhitekid91310 ай бұрын

    The omni king from dragon ball one taps him still

  • @SoraEditz-sd1ky

    @SoraEditz-sd1ky

    5 ай бұрын

    sorry but no

  • @gandalfdawhitekid913

    @gandalfdawhitekid913

    5 ай бұрын

    @@SoraEditz-sd1ky vergil isnt him

  • @SoraEditz-sd1ky

    @SoraEditz-sd1ky

    5 ай бұрын

    @@gandalfdawhitekid913 he is this guy extremely low balled him hes really outer and im not the only one saying this

  • @gandalfdawhitekid913

    @gandalfdawhitekid913

    5 ай бұрын

    @@SoraEditz-sd1ky what can virgil do if omni king just erases the whole universe him included?

  • @SoraEditz-sd1ky

    @SoraEditz-sd1ky

    5 ай бұрын

    @@gandalfdawhitekid913 bro you cant erase him hes way to strong to be erased plus he would kill him so fast that he would have no time to react

  • @blazz2869
    @blazz28692 жыл бұрын

    Very Nice i disagree with 2-B Vergil tho

  • @elishaj2977

    @elishaj2977

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's not all that crazy when you think about it because nearly every 2C feat (i.e. Mundus creating a universe, Mundus's mirror realm flat out negating the god of time and space, Argosax fusing the mortal and Demon realms super casually in a weaker form no less, Sparda cleaving the Demon Realm from the Mortal Realm and sealing them off from eachother) is done casually. Argosax was casually fusing the Demon and Mortal realm in a weaker form with no strain at all even though he was fighting Dante who handily took him down. That means Argosax and by extension Mundus, Abigail, and Sparda are at least a dozen times stronger than the baseline value for 2C and this me lowballing them, but Dante could badly blitz an opponent of their level in base form and oneshot them by DMC2 so he's at least like dozen times stronger than even that and that's not even factoring devil trigger which multifolds his power so a 2B rating for DMC5 Vergil is not crazy since DMC5 Vergil should be light-years stronger than any iteration of Dante before endgame DMC5 Dante considering that DMC5 Vergil's base form at least scales above endgame DMC5 base form Nero even though Vergil was fatigued. Nero in DMC5 could break Urizen's Yamato crystal (albeit with a severe effort) after Urizen drained human blood for a month in comparison to the blood he drained in 2 days that took him from Unsealed Nightmare levels to something that was casually stronger than anything seen before DMC5 like DMC2 Dante who's already approaching high 2C levels. In my opinion, 2B Vergil does have some rationale in the grand scheme of things and is certainly on the table. However, something like 2A would be nonsensical.

  • @joshuahughes3377

    @joshuahughes3377

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@elishaj2977 Yeah, That's true. Being Full Multiversal isn't Really my cup of tea Neither. Although Low Multiversal Vergil at peak Does sound pretty dope.

  • @elishaj2977

    @elishaj2977

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@joshuahughes3377 2B is not low multiversal, just straight up multiversal.

  • @joshuahughes3377

    @joshuahughes3377

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@elishaj2977 I meant as in 2A Not being a cup of tea.

  • @elishaj2977

    @elishaj2977

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@joshuahughes3377 Oh, my mistake yeah I agree with that sentiment.

  • @speeddemonji9547
    @speeddemonji95472 жыл бұрын

    I mean, Kalina Ann has blocked the Yamato 😂

  • @kinderx16_38

    @kinderx16_38

    2 жыл бұрын

    I’ve seen people actually use this as an argument and it makes no sense to me. (I’m assuming you are just making a joke) Yamato cuts through dimensions and reality itself with judgement cut but it didn’t cut through Kalina ann that one time and people use that as an argument for Yamato not being able to cut through anything and everything. That’s like shooting someone with a pistol and they live then saying “well I guess pistols can’t kill people.” Idk why people think it’s a good point it makes absolutely zero sense.

  • @forgottenmessiah

    @forgottenmessiah

    2 жыл бұрын

    Devil Swords such as Rebellion and Yamato's abilities can be used with demonic energy, so you cant use Yamato unless you're Dante, Vergil, Nero or Sparda. Why Lady was able to block Yamato? Because Arkham made Dante and Vergil battle each other so they got weaker while using their demonic energy, and without demonic energy Yamato is just a regular katana, even Arkham catches it with his hands.

  • @ihevmilkdhou

    @ihevmilkdhou

    2 жыл бұрын

    Simple answer is Why the fuck would he cut it!? Lady was disturbing passing by in his fight with Dante. Ofcourse he wouldn't cut it, his focus is Dante.

  • @ihevmilkdhou

    @ihevmilkdhou

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kinderx16_38 yeah.. fuck deathbattle, they miss understood Vergil's personallity

  • @officialnaut1330
    @officialnaut1330 Жыл бұрын

    Does anos beat him?

  • @Vergiru_Sparda

    @Vergiru_Sparda

    Жыл бұрын

    nope

  • @daviddoesstuffandthingigue966

    @daviddoesstuffandthingigue966

    Жыл бұрын

    They are surpisingly close though

  • @abedelrahmanqudih4724

    @abedelrahmanqudih4724

    Жыл бұрын

    No he's too broken

  • @WaveOfDestiny
    @WaveOfDestiny2 жыл бұрын

    I played dmc 1 and mundus says that Dante is weaker here when they went back into the human realm, and it even shows dante being more tired, meaning he has no universal feats in the human world from that game and from mundus, also is combining realms really a feat of AP when it can be just breaking the dimensional walls separating them???????????????

  • @excaliber596

    @excaliber596

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well I’m pretty sure Dante had just finished fighting Mundus in the Demon Realm, so that would attribute to his exhaustion in the human realm. He then fights Mundus in the human realm too. It’s also stated in the DMC2 guidebook that Argosax was fusing the dimensions with his presence alone, so it was him that was doing it, not just a break in dimensional walls. Mundus also scales to him. So even if the Mundus feat wasn’t valid, it’s made valid by Argosax

  • @WaveOfDestiny

    @WaveOfDestiny

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@excaliber596 I'm too early to talk about the DMC saga so do not take what I say seriously and don't even waste time with me, but this might make you think: Mundus says "what's the matter, your powers are weaker here, human" after you chip half of his health bar, which totally sounds like Dante's power is suppressed when he is in the human realm (as the island was only a place that linked the two realms, nothing especially hax-y from what i've seen) like some sort of kriptonite, or maybe the demon realm boosts both his and other demons/gods power... wouldn't that also make the Argosax feat not that valid since he fights or kills him in hell or whatever? (The characters would still be that strong just not on earth anyway) I'm also still not fully convinced as fusing dimension by existing firstly to me doesn't mean being able to destroy them, I don't see no stabilization or destabilization feats here for now, as I don't know the time frame either, and secondly I also have an example: the Icon of Sin from Doom Eternal was about to do the same exact thing as Argosax, but distorting space time by existing doesn't exactly mean you can focus all of that power on a single attack or to boost your durabilty unless there are statements I probably don't know about. Still this is just a new fan's headcanon that could be totally wrong I have to play the games first before I can have a valid opinion, currently played DMC1, whatched anime and right now playing through DMC3 level 6

  • @elishaj2977

    @elishaj2977

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@WaveOfDestiny Btw the realm Argosax was in was a neutral space separate from hell or the human world and he was effecting both by the equivalent of breathing even though the realms had already been separated by Sparda at this point. Watch Zimatorn, he'll enlighten you on why universal+ Dante makes sense across the board.

  • @Villenueve1101

    @Villenueve1101

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@WaveOfDestiny Read the novels. Just because Dante is weaker in gameplay doesn't mean squat when it's lore Dante.

  • @WaveOfDestiny

    @WaveOfDestiny

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Villenueve1101 I didn't know there were novels I watched the anime and I thought that was it, thanks Ps couldn't hear it because this video is too fast

  • @satouanimation
    @satouanimation Жыл бұрын

    Yamato can cut through anything (meanwhile Dante rebellion) heh can't cut trough me ayy 😂

  • @MotivatedSonOfSparda

    @MotivatedSonOfSparda

    Жыл бұрын

    Ladys rocket launcher: pathetic

  • @tariqjohns5078

    @tariqjohns5078

    8 ай бұрын

    Yamato can't even cut through rebellion

  • @JV-km9xk
    @JV-km9xk2 жыл бұрын

    If Vergil and Dante were multiversal, they destroy the universe or not? Could they even destroy the planet with one of their most powerful move? I still don't understand the power of their hax. Brute-Strength wise, I don't think they have the strength as strong as maybe the hulk in comics or Kratos in GoW.

  • @justanaveragedragon831

    @justanaveragedragon831

    2 жыл бұрын

    The believe they can absolutely destroy planets with their moves, well yes they might not be as strong as hulk and Kratos (or maybe they do I honestly don't know), but Do they really need that?, we all know that Dante and Vergil don't use their brute strength in terms of feats in powerscaling, it's mostly their weaponry and devil powers main Yamato and Rebellion (now devil sword Dante) and they're secondary devil arms.

  • @rememberthisname9965

    @rememberthisname9965

    2 жыл бұрын

    Their moves can destroy it not their pure strength

  • @JV-km9xk

    @JV-km9xk

    2 жыл бұрын

    So what move can destroy a planet +. I've never seen any feat or read any description that they have the power to destroy a galaxy or something.

  • @lucho7228

    @lucho7228

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@JV-km9xk In dante's case, his spheres of demonic energy and his black hole. In the case of vergil judgement cut end, hell on earth etc. There are many possibilities and it to necessary stats so it is not that it is too important.

  • @forgottenmessiah

    @forgottenmessiah

    2 жыл бұрын

    You're right their moves dont have that kind of impact, they intend to fuck reality and space time which is cooler.

  • @Asura_productions
    @Asura_productions Жыл бұрын

    Asura can ez clap

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