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JL is defy renowned for quality subwoofers. They are not unequaled by any means but if you purchase one, it is very unlikely that you will be disappointed. Very informative video!

Nice!

Indeed very nice!

Realy nice one ;o) Thx for video ;o)

@DavidSusiloUnscripted

2 жыл бұрын

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One thing I will tell you about the amp--it's not as great as you think. Unfortunately many, including myself, have had the dreaded failure of the volume pot. From what I read it has to do with the cheap crap capacitors they used. JL is well aware of this issue but instead of offering free repair, they charge to fix the amps. You know the old saying, you're only as strong/good as your weakest link. Sure the woofer is great and the construction is top notch, but they went cheap on internals of the amp and thus many will face the failure and will be faced with a costly repair or moving on to another sub.

@juanbaclavab

6 ай бұрын

It's true, my buddy's F113 suddenly stopped working. I was there to witness it all. And now no one knows how to repair it, we live in Europe. some shops didn't even want to compromise on touching it

@JamesWilliams-gf8gm

3 ай бұрын

I have had 5 failures of two E112s. 2 failures on one sub and 3 on the other. Full rebuild by JL after each failure. First time the crossovers failed on both, second time the volume pots failed on both, 5th time was an amp failure. They have junk electronics but good drivers.

@mak23997

3 ай бұрын

@@JamesWilliams-gf8gm man that’s awful! I hope JL reads these because I’m never buying another JL product. Yes, I paid to have the volume pots repaired but sounds like that’s not the end of my issues. Did they charge you for all those repairs?

@JamesWilliams-gf8gm

3 ай бұрын

@@mak23997 well JL serviced them each time so they know. Then they game me a hard time about the second repair because my subs no longer had serial numbers because they installed amps without numbers on them…. I bought a pair of JTR Captivator RS1s now and will never give JL another penny. When the 5th one failed I gave it to a friend to salvage the driver and honestly I don’t know if I feel right selling the last one as I know it will break soon…

@JamesWilliams-gf8gm

3 ай бұрын

@@mak23997 hmm I replayed but it was deleted. Honestly I would sell them while they are working. They will surly cause you more problems in the future. I order two JTR RS1s which are still a few months out. A friend is going to pull the driver out of my broken E112 and use it in a car. Not sure what I will do with the remain one yet.

Thank you for this great video. Would you choose the E110 or the KEF kf92 (if you ignore the price difference of course) ?

@DavidSusiloUnscripted

2 жыл бұрын

I never had the opportunity to listen to the KEF sub. However, I’m familiar with the theoretical spec of it. From the spec standpoint, the KEF should go deeper than JL. However, having listened to many dual-opposing drivers (push-pull), they tend to be less tight than the JL.

@ravington666

3 ай бұрын

I am trialing both atm and really wanted to keep the KEF due to it's slightly smaller footprint, nicer looking exterior and more evenly distributed sound due to it's dual drivers but....... after listening to both back to back, the JL is the one ! The bass texture, note to note distinction & tightness are on another level but primarily just when the KEF starts rolling off when you really push it....the JL just doesn't back down !

@offerhak

3 ай бұрын

⁠be aware that kef just released a replacement to the kf92 named kc92

@ravington666

3 ай бұрын

@offerhak Yes I noticed but virtually identical to the old model except p-flex driver surround and available in white aswell.

Thanks because is something I would like to do open up things now I don't have to open up a sub I can watch

Have had mine for 4 years... very satisfying bass... have had no problems...

@DavidSusiloUnscripted

6 ай бұрын

Most people don’t have problems too. But every manufactured thing will have a problem here and there regardless of brand and price.

Looks can be deceiving, I would like to know the Theil/Small parameters before I pass judgement. Although a cast frame and large double magnet stack look impressive and are not likely to be on a budget driver, the T/S parameters are important. My priorities for bass are clean and low, so a low inductance, low Q and high BL( motor strength). I only build since seeing what Energy sold me many years ago! I also have a sub amp that has a low noise toroidal transformer design with a high order high pass filter.

Great video... Now we know what we pay for if we go jl audio

Love you bro 🇮🇳

@DavidSusiloUnscripted

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching !!

This is impressive review verry practical, watching from the Philippines. Where are you from asia sir?🙂✌️♥️

@DavidSusiloUnscripted

Жыл бұрын

I was born in Indonesia, raised in Australia and now living in Canada for the past 30 years or so.

@wilfredonacional1295

Жыл бұрын

@@DavidSusiloUnscripted wow, you such a wonderful guy sir, may i ask you what can you say about the Svs pb 16 sir?

How would you compare the E110 with REL T5x? Tks

@DavidSusiloUnscripted

Жыл бұрын

Very different approach. The JL is more for home theatre and the REL is more musical

@aind3242

Жыл бұрын

@@DavidSusiloUnscripted Thank you

My E110 produced crackle sound when I turn the output level knob. Is this a common problem of this particular model? Do I need to replace the whole amp? Thanks!

@DavidSusiloUnscripted

2 жыл бұрын

Quite honestly, even after calibrating hundreds of E110 experience, I never encountered a single problem like that. If you are good with soldering, in theory you can do it yourself without changing the entire plate amp. However, if you don’t hear crackling while NOT touching the knob such as while watching movies etc, I would just leave it as is. It’s not like you keep changing the sub volume anyway.

@FatSn8ke

2 жыл бұрын

@@DavidSusiloUnscripted The problem first happened on its 3rd year of use. Back then, it only crackle when I turn the knob. However, I recently re-calibrated it and the problem worsened. The output level will suddenly shoot up by itself and I need to turn the knob up and down to calm it down. I have used it for 6 years now and I think that there is some sort of weak point within the amp making it not durable.

@DavidSusiloUnscripted

2 жыл бұрын

@@FatSn8ke so it may not only the knob that’s the problem. Perhaps the input stage is wonky (usually caused by leaky capacitor). When something like this happens, it’s best to have the plate amp reconditioned by JL so they also check (theoretically) all the caps on that amp. 3-5 years, regardless of brand, seems to be the “lifespan” of a plate amp.

@FatSn8ke

2 жыл бұрын

@@DavidSusiloUnscripted Thanks for the information. I will check if I can send only the plate amp to my local dealer for service. I’m afraid that they will damage my subwoofer during transportation.

@DavidSusiloUnscripted

2 жыл бұрын

@@FatSn8ke they should be able to do that no problem. At least that’s my experiences with various brands in Canada.

How do you remove the amp plate, I loosened the bolts and could not remove the amp. It seemed to be hung up on something. Do I have to remove the woofer?

@DavidSusiloUnscripted

Жыл бұрын

The amp plate is glued to the back panel. If you use something like a nail you can pry it open VERY carefully.

@NYCUE

Жыл бұрын

​@@DavidSusiloUnscripted Thank you David

@111ARR

4 ай бұрын

​@@DavidSusiloUnscriptedHello. So please advise. I intend to replace my amp plate on my E112 soon. So can the new plate be installed without glue (just screwed back on), or is the glue is a must when installing the new amplifier plate. If it is a must, do you by any chance know what type of glue is used? Thanks for the video.

@DavidSusiloUnscripted

3 ай бұрын

@111ARR the glue is not a must, it’s more a “just in case” thing. Regular wood glue (I use Gorilla glue) should suffice.

@111ARR

3 ай бұрын

​@@DavidSusiloUnscriptedThanks for the prompt feedback. Much appreciated. GOD BLESS.

Great sub, I have one with a dead amp, the RCA plugs somehow took a knock while moving it and now I have a passive sub worth $3k - drat and damm it !!

@DavidSusiloUnscripted

Жыл бұрын

Yikes!!! Hope you can fix it.

@PtheTinTHE

Жыл бұрын

the amp is swappable and has a surprising failure rate. I think its around $375 retail for amp replacement

@mak23997

Жыл бұрын

@@PtheTinTHE yep, see my post above. They used cheap capacitors. JL will refurbish the amp for that price, NOT replace it.

Hi unfortunately the Sub E-112 burned today I don't know why I didn't shake the walls if ever there are repair kits because the copper coil is burned what a sadness because despite everything it's a good material thank you for your video

@DavidSusiloUnscripted

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching. Too bad about your sub. I can feel your disappointment :( Have you tried contacting JL directly to buy parts? PS: please subscribe to help out with my algorithm.

cannot with for it. as I have the E112.

@DavidSusiloUnscripted

2 жыл бұрын

It’s available to watch now !!!

Even I am impressed that I'm no expert

@DavidSusiloUnscripted

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching!

@glengatt3941

2 жыл бұрын

@@DavidSusiloUnscripted it was good video I loved it but at the same time I almost cried seeing a subwoofer like that, opened up,it looks high end I never owned one like that

I mean, the construction is better than anything else, SVS, Rythmik, REL, anyone.

Deep bass air?

@DavidSusiloUnscripted

4 ай бұрын

Not just deep but very clean without being boomy.

@yangvang9095

4 ай бұрын

@@DavidSusiloUnscripted oh I see, just asking do u know what brand subwoofer like deep bass/boomy?

@yangvang9095

4 ай бұрын

@@DavidSusiloUnscripted how about svs?

@DavidSusiloUnscripted

4 ай бұрын

@yangvang9095 I find the SVS is mostly brute force. Loud but lacking articulation and details. They a great value for the money, though.

@DavidSusiloUnscripted

4 ай бұрын

@yangvang9095 I find the SVS is mostly brute force. Loud but lacking articulation and details. They a great value for the money, though.

I have seen better =) ...and I've seen the inside of one of these before. ( R&D lab )

@psyphonyxaudio

2 жыл бұрын

Thumbs up anyways .. even though it wasn't really a secret. JL posts images of their woofer designs online.

@DavidSusiloUnscripted

2 жыл бұрын

@@psyphonyxaudio they do but the ones I can find are all based on their 12” and they are CG render, not photos.

@psyphonyxaudio

2 жыл бұрын

@David Susilo Unscripted Still a pretty cool inside look. It's rare to have an owner attempt this.. despite the details not being a secret* Cheers !

@DavidSusiloUnscripted

2 жыл бұрын

@@psyphonyxaudio thank you for watching! :) :)

Yikes....this is cringey. JL Audio is the most overrated brand in home audio subwoofers. I had 2 F113 fathoms for a long time and every upgrade since then has crushed them. They are an old outdated design with low output comparatively speaking to an industry that has blown by them. They are ok for music, but in no way can they be recommended for movies, they dont even have output below 20hz! Also, you compare these little mini JL's to Monoprice subs....compare it to the new 16" Thx version and look at that units output and distortion numbers....it has more output than a Gotham with less distortion lol. You need a tech update my man, not trying to be disrespectful but you need a refresher course on subs my man.

@MusclesAVS

2 жыл бұрын

@@DavidSusiloUnscripted the fact that no one really uses 10” subs is telling.

@MusclesAVS

2 жыл бұрын

@@DavidSusiloUnscripted You compared it to a 15" monoprice in your video??? Did you not watch what you posted? Look at the distortion output charts from audioholics. JL wishes it could compete there.

@MrPolaris800crew

2 жыл бұрын

@@MusclesAVS Not everything is about SPL, just by looking at the woofer is evident spl is not strong, the woofer is designed for linearity by spacing out the suspension and increasing the mounting depth.

@MusclesAVS

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrPolaris800crew I agree. I had 2 JL Audio Fathom F113's for years. They are just ok subs. Everything I have tried since then has been a big step up in both output and quality.

@MrPolaris800crew

2 жыл бұрын

@@MusclesAVS i agree but for people who want small sealed subs with moderate output and good articulation they are top notch, other options are REL,SVS,KEF, which none of them have JL articulation and accuracy.

I see this is a older video but man, you clearly dont know anything about sub drivers or amps..... You are all happy becuase the amp looks fancy, when its just a basic cheap amp. That is actually quite garbage from all the failures lol. The driver uses dual spiders to limit excursion and control linearity.... At the exoense of sensitivity and output. The driver is notning special, you are in aww bwcjase its long... Its still technically only a dual stack ferrite motor, nothing special about it. Especially for the orice JL wants for this mini thing. This is for a office, not a living room or a HT.

@DavidSusiloUnscripted

3 ай бұрын

LOL. It’s a 10” subwoofer. Who in the right mind use a 10” sub for home theatre? And if you want cheap, there are so many cheap solutions out there for the budget conscious like yourself.