This is so alarming! Thank you Joyce for standing up for the family.

Thank you JT, Lady Cee and Joyce. Lovely and insightful interview. Joyce, you were a terrific guest!

@ExJWCriticalThinker

6 жыл бұрын

Son of Thunder glad you enjoyed it man It's just so sad how this religion JACKS UP SO MANY LIVES!

@PokemonRules333

2 жыл бұрын

@@ExJWCriticalThinker it is and how it is still allowed to operate I’ll never know

So glad you interviewed Joyce. I was hoping you would. I am so glad she had the courage to stand up them at their meeting.

@ExJWCriticalThinker

6 жыл бұрын

all things delightful no thank you for your support

Thanks for the video. This has hit all of us. So sad and unneccisary. Joyce has hit like a storm in a good way.

I loved how she described going into the Christian Bookstore and handing the clerk a note. Then throwing the $20 bill down and racing out. That portrays the mind control we were under perfectly. I used to walk by the metaphysical section in the bookstore and not even be able to look at the books as I walked by. I now have been out 3 1/2 years and have read some amazing books on spirituality from that very section. Love you two!

@ExJWCriticalThinker

6 жыл бұрын

Ashley Stone we were scared to death when we got our books as well We lived in the FOG. FEAR OBLIGATION AND GUILT

This interview was absolutely necessary and so well done. It will reach its intended target.

Such a sad story! Thanks to Joyce for speaking out. Lady Cee, you look fantastic BTW!

This was a great video. I saw Joyce's video as well, when she went to the hall and interrupted the meeting to shed light on this family's tragedy. That was very brave of her. Thank you for all your videos. I am an ex jdub, and it feels so good to know I'm not alone.

Leaving a cult can be mentally and emotionally devastating - especially if one is being shunned. We have to encourage ex-JWs to seek mental health services if they seem troubled or distressed. Another great video as usual!

@ExJWCriticalThinker

6 жыл бұрын

Pat Warmack bingo. No shame in their game for seeking help

@vineyardprophecy5073

5 жыл бұрын

Psychology and psychiatry are doctrines of the Nicolaitans (Revelation 2:14-16). Seek the Lord and not man.

@Satans_lil_helper

5 жыл бұрын

@@vineyardprophecy5073 You're the reason why they continue to kill themselves. Shameful.

@tammo33

4 жыл бұрын

@@vineyardprophecy5073 being a Christian doesn't mean you can't see physicians or therapists. Therapy was a huge help to me when breaking free from the cult mind control. Seeking help is not the same thing as seeking man.

@birdiebear1500

4 жыл бұрын

@@vineyardprophecy5073 You really do suck as a human.

My husband grew up a JW, his parents never ONCE, NOT ONE TIME, said “I’m proud of you son.” And it affects him till today. He’s now 41 years old.

Joyce is such a beautiful soul. Bless her heart. I bet she's told this story dozens of times. You can tell she misses them. She just glows when she talks about them. Joyce is such a pleasant conversation. Thank you guys. That was great.

OMG!! So sorry to hear about what happened to this family. It totally breaks my heart.

Thank you for having Joyce on the last part of her interview cleared up things for me... So very sorry for this family. I am SO glad when I was in the Wt for 38yrs....I let a lot of their doctrines and rules from the stage and publications go in one ear and out the other...I never believed it fully thank goodness.

@ExJWCriticalThinker

6 жыл бұрын

Freedom Rings we think you as well

Great job guys! You brought out so many good points, I lost track.

@ExJWCriticalThinker

6 жыл бұрын

Adventures With Robin you are welcome! Glad you enjoyed it

I appreciate the point JT made about needing confirmation that we are not crazy for leaving the organization. Since being a JW was all I had known since childhood, waking up was the scariest thing I've ever done. Letting my mind go places it was restricted to go and thinking my own thoughts about what the Bible really teaches was so exhilarating. I remember when I first let myself think about the fact that Babylon was not destroyed in 607....It opened up a whole new world for me. That meant Jesus had not come in 1914, which made more sense, because it was obvious that Jesus has not returned at all. Christians are still looking for his second coming. Of course, this meant that I had been taught a lie by the Watchtower. It also meant that I could question everything else they taught, and boy, were my eyes and mind opened up to the real truth about the truth. But, since my whole life had been based on lies, my foundation had cracked, my world was turned upside down. This channel gave me such peace of mind. JT and Lady C were one of the first channels that really gave me validation that I could leave "the truth" and live my life the way God intended, free from the control of the Watchtower and the 7 men who run it. Thank you so much for the confirmation. As for the murder/suicide, obviously Lauren was in a state of psychotic breakdown to do what she did. I can't entirely blame Watchtower for that, because she was suffering from acute mental illness, and needed medical help. They weren't even active witnesses. I feel bad for their families and friends....t is too bad someone didn't see that she needed mental help before this tragedy.

Im only half way through this video and I just have to say how clear and to the point you 2 are. Keep up the great work,

Brave woman and hopefully something good can come out of this. Hopefully awareness and in turn, saving lives.

I will be sharing this with the world, to help ones to understand why and what happened to this family. And I was told not to go to college because the new system was coming - this was in 1973... it is now 2018 still no end of the system!

@billmueller8273

4 жыл бұрын

jeneb52 I went to the 1969 international convention in Vancouver and never thought I would get my driver license when I turned 16 in 1972!

I had seen Joyce in the Hall. What a powerful thing she did. It took a lot of courage for an ExJW to tell the elders to NOT touch her.

I believe this sad tragedy will be a game changer some how, thanks guys and Joyce for being brave! God Bless

@ExJWCriticalThinker

6 жыл бұрын

Darlene Smith thanks for your support

Thanks for the video...JT your a great speaker. I like your reasoning and examples.

@ExJWCriticalThinker

6 жыл бұрын

NJ thz. Just trying to keep it real

Thank you all for this video!

@ExJWCriticalThinker

6 жыл бұрын

GorgeousRoddyChrome just keeping it real

@GorgeousRoddyChrome

6 жыл бұрын

ExJW Critical Thinker always! :)

Covering all bases! Much appreciated from Texas... Thanks for filling in the missing pieces to this story from an intimate point of view... Now those on the outside can understand how much the culture affects us in & out!

@ExJWCriticalThinker

6 жыл бұрын

NoMore MiddleMen you are welcome

You both are Awesome! I was an Unbaptized Publisher 3 years ago. I was born and raised in and out of the organization. I have 3 sister's that are still in the cult. I decided not to get baptized from surfing KZread & the internet. Your videos and Kim & Mikey took away my loneliness & guilt. Again, I can't thank you enough!

@ExJWCriticalThinker

6 жыл бұрын

Arii Rowling very wise decision

Lady C you looking real fly girl! You to JT. Don’t want you to feel left out.😂😂 Very interesting interview.

Thanks again and you're welcome! Take care and love back at you!

@ExJWCriticalThinker

6 жыл бұрын

Dawn Elizabeth thz

@frankwilliams2777

3 жыл бұрын

Can I talk to you in person about the Jehovah Witness inbox me thanks God bless)

Excellent discussion!; Joyce,I hope the Detroit Free Press reporter can view this to assist with her expose.

Thank you Lady Cee and JT about the woman you interviewed am glad I was listening because when I left Jehovah's Witness I was shun from my parents and they are still alive today.

Once again I love your coverage of the thinking of the average witness. And we finally got an important part of the answer to why this happened. It’s a shame it’s based upon an inaccurate understanding of the Witnesses doctrine which is all who were never preached to or heard from the witnesses get resurrected so they can get educated on witness doctrine before the end of the thousand years when they get tested by the release of the devil again. So those who know the Watchtower teachings who die before Armageddon simply wont be resurrected again because they knew.

@rotcivbenitez8643

9 ай бұрын

If the Armageddon doctrine is real to a person, how certain would that person feel of a family member surviving Armageddon? But if family members are dead, it now becomes a matter of God knowing their hearts; only he can judge. That was my understanding when I was a JW, 33 years ago. Not discounting, however, the doctrine; of who were never preached or heard, as you have explained.

Enjoyed your content. Faded away 20+ years ago, just woke up, started checking out You Tube channels. Wow how much the dogma of JW organization has changed! How did I ever believe that stuff? Glad to be out and awake. Found bible based non denominational church and so happy again! Keep up your great work!

+ExJW Critical Thinker Praise the LORD thank you so much for your ministry. it is such a blessing. God bless. Agape love

Thank you for this. Was JW 12 yrs. Single parent that went to college for nursing against their argument. They tried to find me a brother but I think I was too independent at that point. The last part, killing entire family so they have a chance at resurrection, makes so much sense of mindset. They kept me because I wanted what was best for my kids. They constantly brought up my kids fall under me if Armageddon started and of course, I wanted my kids to live. When they got a bit older & I found out they hated being in this cult and why, we all left. There’s some good ppl there I do miss, but I prefer my sanity & independence more and I’m not such a bad person after all. Thank you for your videos. Subscribed

As always, very informative, your work here is appreciated.

. The depth of your insight has helped me more than you know. Thank you Lady C and JT.🙂

It’s hard sometimes like you mentioned in the end about indoctrinating people, as an ex elder, you sometimes feel responsible for bringing people in and the shepherding calls you did to family’s I’m very thankful you did this interview

I have a family of (i always considered them) friends. Just lost the matriarch of the family. I wish so much I could share your channel so much. I don't want to alienate them but am I truly seen as their friend. Early in our friendship they tried to pull me from my protestant tenets of faith to no avail, but they never distance themselves from me. I do not know how to approach them anymore.

Hi JT, Lady Cee and Joyce, The devastating impact on the Vaa has impacted a lot of us, it makes us quite sad too! The combination of crime and psychology were fascinating! I also found Melissa Weedman helpful, she referred me to a book to read on leaving cults! I studied music at the time I was in and you're right, I wasn't celebrated! Take care and thanks!

Thanks for your mental courage and honesty!

I know how these people operate and I almost committed suicide because of their shaming. My heart goes out to this family and her friend.

Thankyou so much for being out there!

what a great video...super points brought up by all, esp. the ex-elder even tho i have been out for 30 yrs. this was an encouraging video that helped me know i made the right decision.

Great video!! Keep spreading the real truth!!

Rip to the Stuart Family. So heartbreaking

These videos are GREAT. Anyone whom was a former witness in my opinion can relate to everyone of the videos you've posted. In my case . Yes. They bring back many,many memories . My mom was a single mom. Grew up Baptist in Alabama. I was raised as nothing in Boston. Then my aunt her sister constantly was on us about getting baptized as a kid. My mom had a great secularjob. But when she went through difficult times with my stepdad.....the Witnesses got her. They get you when you have a hard time in life. Ruined my dreams and goals as a senior in High School as my mom took the Elders words as LAW. I began to wake up in 2006. By 2013 I was out. My wife is Catholic. They believe in only marrying a good little Catholic boy/girl...but I was surprised at how quickly they shrugged that off and just accepted me for me. My wife as well. She was just finishing up her MBA and told me once she was done I should go back to school and finish what I had not. Her cousins are witnesses. And she despises them. She said as kids they told her and her siblings they would die. Terrible things. Now...all those cousins have kids out of wedlock and my wife and sister in law allure doing well in life.ive had to explain my quirks though. I have zero friends except probably one. He was a former Bethelite. Now married to a worldly woman. Back 10-15 years ago I Remer him telling me about guys drinking in Bethel and how he never went to meetings. It blew my mind,but I never questioned it as I was still in. Then anther friend whom went to Bethel...I asked him in Service one day..."What's Bethel like ?" Well....Bethel isn't for everybody. It's just not for everybody." As he had come home after after a year. Several years later I added him to Facebook and learned he earned a B.S. from one of the local universities. He and the other brother pretty much were the only friends I had. I tell my wife...babel I have associates more than friends. People from school or work, but I never did anything with due to them being worldly. Anytime we do something ...it's with her friends or coworkers. Its embarrassing. You constantly have a feeling that you are stunted socially in your growth as a person. Like....some of these things should have been done in your mid-late 20's. This religion not only robs you of your being, but it's stunts your natural growth as a person. My mom still clings to it though. She's 68 defends the friends to the death. And I can see the judgemental part of her personality now that I'm out. For a while I was bitter towards her as it felt she robbed me of my dreams. Then for a while I would blame my aunt for introducing my mom to it. I feel bad for the kids who are in. Never crush abdominal child's dreams and passions. I'm working on mine with the support of my wife. A worldly woman imagine that ? A friend told me the last time it talked him......"If know several single sisters....but not ONE of them would touch you." It shocked me. I've been working at my job for 18 years. 11 years at the timr. Stable. I lived on my own. Provided for myself. Things I THOUGHT a good man should be doing. Then I realized I was in the WTBS. My hours in service, comments,etc probably reflected me being a weak partner.. But it was the final straw. I began to think in the 16 years I'd known him..he was always crtical. Never upbuilding. I began Toth realize nothing was wrong with me. But witnesses will have you thinking something is wrong with YOU. Depressed. Questioning yourself CONSTANTLY. It's pretty messed up when you sit back and look at your former self. I hope more people find your videos. It takes a while to wake up. I would visit Jehovah-Witness discussion forums as far back as 2001. Realized most had left and got scared away. The society wouldn't approve of that !😂😂 But in 2006 as as went through some things in the hall...I returned to that site. And began to learn TTATT and could relate to the things I was was seeing and hearing.

Thankyou for the interview Joyce.

The stress that envelops you from being disfellowshipped when you don't want to be disfellowshipped is NO JOKE! I watch a lot of prison documentaries, and I never thought I'd be able to relate to some murderer in solitary confinement until I was dissed.

Thanks for this interview. I know the topic was mainly about the tragedy of this poor family and the role JW indoctrination played in it. However, what you mentioned about making friends really resonated with me. I've been out of this religion for over 4 years, and I still haven't really made a single friend outside of the organization. Despite my best efforts, I still struggle with making positive connections with people. I was beginning to think something was wrong with me...perhaps I was unlovable or not good friendship material. But I realize that I've spent most of my youth and young adult years being devoted to an organization, which left little time to develop people skills. Now it's pretty much a struggle to fit in to friendships or cliques that have already been established years ago. I'm not sure where that leaves me, but it all makes sense now.

@RichD2024

6 жыл бұрын

NoviceLocs14 You should check out the exjw Reddit. Often you will find announcements of exjw get togethers. Maybe you can find one in your area, or set one up.

@GorgeousRoddyChrome

6 жыл бұрын

Richard D I clicked reply to post this same recommendation. There is also great advice in posts as to how to develop friendships.

@grisnios

6 жыл бұрын

Cynthia Jane Loren Just keep in mind that you are not the only one. I also dont have phisical friends outside the org. By that I mean people that I can go and hang out. However, I enjoy being in the ex-jw recovery groups in facebook because there at least I can talk and have a voice and conversations which I am unable to have with others that still defend the org. Even if they are not going to meetings. I am taking things slow and keep telling myself that things will get better with time.

@slseym07

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks all of you for the advice and encouragement. I really appreciate it ❤

@ExJWCriticalThinker

6 жыл бұрын

NoviceLocs14 you have ALREADY taken the most important step and that is recognizing the impact this religion has had on us. That is the first step We never learned to de elope friends beyond conditional ones based on YOUR PRODUCTION NUMBERS. Lol Contact the posters on these sites and check out JW meetup groups

Very brave thing she did going to that KH and confronting them. Even if that video doesn't help wake up a single witness, it helps innoculate the general population from the JW propaganda, by exposing their beliefs for the dangerous ideas that they are.

As a former JW, love your videos. Spot on! Keep up good work. So very needed...

Exjw activism is my passion. I have others, but that is currently & by far my drive day to day. Nothing beats REALLY saving lives.

Came from the Caribbean (Haiti ) it was not a problem within the congregation almost every kids must go to college because of a culture thing most of the parents will not shunned their kids if they get get disfelloshiped or leave the organization but if a member get disfelloshiped you will be shunned if you leave like I did they will still talk to you my kids stop going my husband still is, thank you guys for your videos, eye opening to JWs that have doubts about this cult.

@ExJWCriticalThinker

6 жыл бұрын

Magalie Augustin yes it is a culture thing. Some JW don't cut their family to the bone when they leave as the society wants them too

Thank you so much I left 5 yrs ago and I'd love to just talk to you guys bc what your channel is about is what I need! ....

Hello. From Mi. Love the shiny, curly hairstyle. You look beautiful. Just hearing about this, right now.

Great Video. So sad what we have to go through when we no longer want to be a JW. The isolation is to much for some people. I'm so happy that ex-JW have all of this great content out here on the internet to help us move forward positively in our lives! Keep up this fine work!

I believe this scripture applys perfectly to WT Ezekiel 22: 3-4 and say: ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: You city that brings on herself doom by shedding blood in her midst and defiles herself by making idols, 4 you have become guilty because of the blood you have shed and have become defiled by the idols you have made. You have brought your days to a close, and the end of your years has come. Therefore I will make you an object of scorn to the nations and a laughingstock to all the countries.

@carbon273

4 жыл бұрын

radiomanze1 I found this one in the same book. “And the word of the LORD came to me, saying, “Son of man, prophesy against the shepherds of Israel, prophesy and say to them, ‘Thus says the Lord GOD to the shepherds: “Woe to the shepherds of Israel who feed themselves! Should not the shepherds feed the flocks? You eat the fat and clothe yourselves with the wool; you slaughter the fatlings, but you do not feed the flock. The weak you have not strengthened, nor have you healed those who were sick, nor bound up the broken, nor brought back what was driven away, nor sought what was lost; but with force and cruelty you have ruled them. So they were scattered because there was no shepherd; and they became food for all the beasts of the field when they were scattered. My sheep wandered through all the mountains, and on every high hill; yes, My flock was scattered over the whole face of the earth, and no one was seeking or searching for them. ”” ‭‭Ezekiel‬ ‭34:1-6‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

Another great video! I want to thank Joyce for what she did in stepping up the way she did in that Kingdom Hall. Her two minute video has over 52,000 views already. kzread.info/dash/bejne/qnZ-ktWihsqqm6g.html JT and Lady Cee you are to be commended for the way you asked Joyce different questions from the normal in getting Joyce to talk about the way shunning is bullying. Excellent job by all of you.

@ExJWCriticalThinker

6 жыл бұрын

herman washington thank you sir. Almost there

Very insightful good video

Thank you for exposing this side of the cult life. Let them stick their heads in the sand, they cannot deny these things when it gets the exposure it needs.

@ExJWCriticalThinker

6 жыл бұрын

Rebecca Lucas glad you enjoyed it JT

Thank you guys for posting this, I was disfellowshipped in 2014 and went back in 2016 because I was pregnant and I missed my family but I'm stuck here now because of my family. Thankfully my husband is not a JW.

JT very good video. This situation reminds me of JW family killing that occurred soon after I started my ministry in the late 1990's. I still have the 1999 news article where the JW father Mark Barton who had murdered his wife and 2 kids and then killed himself wrote on his death note: "I have been dying since October. I wake up at night so afraid, so terrified... It has taken its toll. I have come to hate this life and this system of things. I have come to have no hope. I killed the children to exchange them for five minutes of pain for a lifetime of pain... I know Jehovah will take care of all of them in the next life..." That broke my heart because this man believed lies that left him hopeless. This murder could have been prevented if someone could have just helped this man see the hope he could have had in Christ. Isolation drives people to do crazy things and to feel there is no hope. But if you have a personal relationship with Jesus and you learn how to heal from your past, As Corrie Ten Boom said while she sat in Hitlers Extermination Camp: "There is never a pit so deep that the LOVE of God is not deeper still." If you you can come to know HIS LOVE deep in your heart, and come to know the Jesus who promised to never leave us, He gives you hope no matter how deep the pit of your life may go. I have always remembered this family as one of the reasons we share the hope of Christ with hurting Jehovah's Witnesses. You never know if your hand of love may be the missing link between life and death for that person you are reaching out to. Keep up the good work!

@marviasinclair6144

6 жыл бұрын

You came out of the frying pan and jumped into the fire!

@witforjesus

6 жыл бұрын

Marvia, I can understand why you feel this way. When you've been burned and hurt by "religion" the way so many have over the years, it's no wonder people leave Jesus and Jehovah on the table when they walk out of this religion. I don't blame you for feeling like I've jumped out of the "frying pan into the fire" because all you've seen is the pain that legalism causes. But just because Satan has many counterfeits, doesn't make the real experience with God and Jesus any less true. I can honestly say that when I first encountered the grace and love of Christ, I really didn't know what "grace" was and it was something I didn't even know how to explain or even how to receive it. That kind of unconditional love; It's not natural. It doesn't make sense. Growing up in legalism, all I saw were the rules that I had to "try" to keep, but I never could. As soon as I got one thing down, I could see the ways I failed in other aspects. It was a never ending battle. I could never measure up and I felt such guilt and fear. But then I learned about God's perfect love. He says "There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves punishment, and the one who fears is not perfected in love." (1 John 4:18) Receiving His love is not about trying to live up to a set of man-made standards or rules, nor is it about trying to be free outside of religion with no thought toward God. That's like jumping into a cage and saying you're free just because you no longer have the chain of "religion" attached to your collar. It's a limited freedom because it can never take away guilt and fear. Only God's LOVE can drive out fear and only God's grace can drive out guilt and regret. Everyone has a "God" void in their heart. If you don't fill that void with a real personal relationship with Jesus, you'll fill it with things or people who are far from perfect and you will ultimately end up empty and alone. Only Jesus can heal the deepest wounds of the heart.

I had to watch all the way till the end. It is very interesting that Trinidad & Tobago is right in the Western Hemisphere but we are like light years away in some areas. Most JW's here chase after money. If you Google Josh Bajnath, you'll find him on his yacht and when he's not out on the service, he's on his estate, building his second home or probably selling logs. Will he sell one lot of his land to help a needy brother in a jam? Hypocrisy seems so higher here. My dad was a non JW so they say all non believers are unworthy of Jehovah but since he died they are singing a new song that he will be in Paradise. Crazy!

Omg this is so heart breaking!!!

@ExJWCriticalThinker

6 жыл бұрын

Jay The Comedian very sad indeed

@Amberthe_Realtor

3 жыл бұрын

Yes i agree.

@complex65

3 жыл бұрын

I agree, Jay! A friend and former co-worker reminded me of this tragedy today and I had to look at this again to refresh my memory. I had forgotten that you were on this video. Nice to see you and love your channel!

This interview is a blessing to so many. Many thanks ❤️❤️❤️

My dissfellowshipping went very wring how I was handled was so messed up I was told Jehovah has forgiven you but bc the congregation isn't ready to accept you back we have to keep you out for just 2 more months ... Which at the time trying to come back I was like yeah we got to think of the friends and they're conscience and went in about my business I got back in after those 2 months but after had thought about they're answer , it basically shown me Jehovah's spirit was and is not part of the process it's just been toying with people's lives ... I got back in inly to be able to speak to my mom and dad ... The night after I was announced back in was the last meeting I ever want to ... It's been 6 yrs now and I'm and and I have been dealing with so much mentally and emotionally that I just want to tell my story to someone. ...

Lady C this is off topic, but I like your hair, it's very cute.

@ExJWCriticalThinker

6 жыл бұрын

Judy Noble I tell her it's her Halle summer cut JT

Still so many questions about this sad event. It has to change. I am so tired of them saying it is up to the individual, can they still deny they don't shun family who have left? It really has to stop. The Christian message of love your enemy and forgiveness is lost on the JW. We have to pull together and help those who are struggling with the loss of their loved ones due to this cult. No one should feel they are unloved. That there is no way forward. Remember the JW broadcast episode of the bread being thrown in the garbage can? God throws people away? Can you imagine believing that? Can you imagine your family thinking of you as garbage that God has thrown away?

I feel that shunning is so damaging, it completely prevents us from expressing our love to our friends and family because we just believe differently.

I appreciate the point that you guys brought out about always looking for someone to give you an answer. That really stuck with me. Living in a society where everyone thinks and acts alike leave so little room for individuality. And when someone starts to think differently, they need reassurance. THATS THE PROBLEM! I love all of your videos, keep up the good work!!

@ExJWCriticalThinker

6 жыл бұрын

Allison Wilson bingo

I'm so glad I got out so sad they have destroyed many families

Thanks! Experience! Wisdom! Courage!

So good! Thank you guys for your time and efforts!

I have major anxiety from decision making, I feel more comfortable if people make them for me and tell me what to do. Being raised JW crushed my creativity also, I find it hard to imagine things or think up art even though Im good at drawing- I find it easier to copy something, I find it hard to improvise lyrics or songs or the guitar. In fact I could only play what I was taught for the longest time. I often feel I have been mentally hobbled by WT

@mariposamarshall9773

5 жыл бұрын

Jamie Angel- try to get some counseling and don't give up on your art- it took years to get where you are so it'll take time to free your creative juices DON'T GIVE UP!!!! Keep drawing

@glorialeach7301

5 жыл бұрын

Jamie Angel , it is from years of thinking that you ONLY do or say what is expectable to the society’s way. Take a deep breath and make your decisions and be proud of your decisions, they belong to YOU and YOU have every right to decide what you want to do or say. To me it was liberating 😍

Thank you JT LadyCee and Joyce! #Courage

Thank you Joyce! I hope this is another nail in the coffin for watchtower

Outstanding job as always guys! 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 - ExJDub757

LaDy C & JT, thank you for revealing the truth! May our Lord & Saviour bless you both. It's always a pleasure watching you:-)xxxxxx;-)

OMG this was a heartbreaker I read this story awhile back unbelievable!

Lady C. I admire you. I faded maybe 20 years ago. I had no notice of the bible. What helped wake me up was how how each one treated each other. No unconditional love. I went in when I already had a family. Had my friends. I was very protective of my children. There was one sister who we rode to a convention with. One morning she called up to my room with my daughter and told us to come down. It was a nightmare. She attacked me and my daughter in the motel lobby. She chased us around the quad. She was grabbing my clothes. We got away by going into a friend's room. She as much told my daughter to shut up when she spoke up. The brothers did nothing. One brother suffered from Bipolar. He heard voices telling him to stab another brother. The brother lived. The other had to go to jail but did not have his meds. Eventually was omitted to a mental health hospital. I would not call this brotherly love. I am finally free .None of my family ever wanted to be baptized. I am a Christian now and I know it was Jesus watching over us. I watch your show. You help and are there for those searching for the real truth. Peace and Love,. Pearline

It is definitely a form of bullying, because they shun you to make you feel rejected you. Just to think these are the same people who told you probably just a few weeks ago that they will give there live for you. I have been in the store with JW who I have been friend with or have work out in field service with, just becaUSE i decided not to attend the meeting because my light became brighter. they would pretend they either don't see me or just ignore me. Being that I may either ignore them or say you was one of the one that said you would died for me. I tell them you are simply demonic. Keep up the good work with encouraging, boy I WISH i could meet y'all. I just which that I could be around more free thinker. The Jw do not have the passion to Love, so how could you have a passion.

I thank the MOST HIGH for you two because as painful as it was for you to leave the JW organization after discovering the REAL TRUTH, you are a BRIGHT LIGHT to people who made it out. People say stop talking about it, but that's disingenuous because when you're practicing as a JW it's LIFESTYLE and not just a religion. Non-JW don't get that and current JW who tell you to stop talking about it are being dishonest. Keep the videos coming! THANK YOU!

You three are doing amazing work. Thank you.

Yes the isolation and rejection have you so lost I still find myself still isolated from the world. I really don't know who to turn to but I make It each day knowing that God still love me no matter what. so that help me to move forward alittle. But I do have my days when I wish I could talk and hold my family. The Jehovah witness congregation have broken up many families over the year all because of their practice and belief.

I am subject to correction here but the bible makes mention of forgiveness and how important it is to forgive one another. It says that in order for God to forgive you, you have to forgive those who sin against you. If or when you shun someone by not speaking to the person, isn't that unforgiving and also God is not hearing your prayers?

Thank you for broaching this subject. Your video's are always so coherent. They are appreciated. I think you are correct, Confirmation is a start, to the way out of the society. In my case, I secretly went to counseling, otherwise, it may have been my end.

Thank you guys so much for this insight, all of you are on point..... Thank You Thank you

Spiritual abuse, strip you of your self worth, sit in silence without saying nothing is helping nobody, well said, LaDy C;-)

You guys are awesome and I love you both! I studied and left then studied and left again! You see guys I was suffering from clinical depression and wasn't diagnosed! That's why my relationship with the JW'S was on and off, thank you Jesus! I love your videos because you are for real and helping others to see through the veneer of the mind control of the JW'S and able to move forward with thier lives! You both are truly blessed by the truth of our Lord and savior Jesus Christ and I pray for you both to continue your work of exposing this cult! Our Lord weeps at the loss of even one of his sheep! For a former JW you are eloquent and educated in every aspect of your work and I pray you will be able to reach many more of these loving, caring and humble people that have been caught up in this cult!

Great video! So much is very relatable! The point where the witness out in service scared to be in trouble from his comments by the other witness goes a little deeper. When asking my father what his position on any simple point, he must first research a little more before answering, its so frustrating, so paranoid that they might say the wrong thing and they need to know where you might be going with this

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Also if i say that the society did something apparently wrong then he is going to write the watchtower right now and get to the bottom of it. Are you kidding me? Arent you just asking for it?

The more people that you have on : always brings me back to the Kingdom Hall and the way it has been for the watchtower manipulation of organized religions being a business and how they run it , your so right nobody gets out of there felling good about it mind set Thank you for stressing the point I really Enjoy Critical Thinker Lady C and JT

AKA "The Heretic" - Laughing out loud Joyce. This reminds me of when I first got a copy of the book - " 30 yrs. a Watchtower Slave" , back in 1969. I felt so Guilty about having it in my possession , it took years to get around to actually finish reading it !! LOL

Witnesses will have you thinking your life will be in shambles when you leave. It's interesting but I found the irony in that about a year after I left. I was waiting for the other shoe to drop and it never did. I will not say everything has been easy but I am much happier and a full life outside of the organization then I ever did in. I was one of the fortunate ones. I went to college and got my education while in the organization. My mom instructed me to go to college and wouldn't take no for an answer.

They are like robots and don't know it. I was one also. When I left I had to learn how to how fun again. If your around JW's they never talk about fun things everything is about the watch tower. Like they rarely laugh. serious robots. trying to act perfect. So glad I got free and thank God for these videos exposing them.

@ExJWCriticalThinker

6 жыл бұрын

a guest we were one of those robots as well sad to say

Thank you for this video. I am so sorry this happened to that family. I hated when I would hear of someone committing suicide and an elder would stand up there and say, "It's because they left Jehovah." I just spoke with my son this morning. He is disfellowshipped for drinking too much. His wife turned him in to the elders. He is terribly depressed and I'm trying to reason with him and encourage him. There is life after WT. As for the elders interfering in your life, that is very real. During your video, it made me recall the time several of us "sisters" were visiting after a meeting. As women do, we were talking about shopping, clothes and things like that. Unbeknownst to us, there was an elder standing there listening to our conversation. Finally he intruded his way in and start lecturing us that we should be talking about field service experiences, the new WT and Awake magazine articles and commenting more at the meetings. Such rubbish, I remember being appalled at his intrusion into our conversation.

Hello, I finally woke up. I was sexually abused from the ages of 6 to 12. Elders swept it under the rug, even though, my father ADMITTED the abuse, in front of 2 elders and my mother. She sent me away to foster care and stayed with him. I have been through so much. Mental illness, is no joke, and I know it was because I never received the help I need.

Could you guys share a link with me where you tell your story of awakening. I failed to find it

Thank you for this video...it is so true about not knowing how to make friends if you are raised in this organization or if you come in very early...that happened to me...hit in at 16 and left at 50...my son was raised in this organization and he was 22 when we left ...he has his wife who was a childhood friend and us and that’s it! All our so called friends have thrown us away...it’s heartbreaking and totally against what Christ taught!

Thank you for your bravery! I have been able to use this experience to remind me to stay away from this religion!

Great interview!

Hey you both went to Bethel, is that right? I may have misheard from another video. I suppose it would not help any to answer my question, but it is far further than I ever got in the religion. I was always curious to know where exactly the governing body got their conceptual ideas from, or if it was all literally just people reading the texts, searching the web, and rewording ideas from others to fit their narrative. For example, I have always wanted to find a reference to AIG or Ken Ham in a JW book, but so far have not, thankfully. Not to use that as a positive towards them, but it is lol. They always seem to have their own written work and minimally reference more prominent scientific minds in ways that helps their message, even when they get sued for it. But is that really as simple as it is, they think up the crap themselves and slap in a bit of science to make it sound legit, or is there evidence that they rework the dogma from other religions and/or AIG and then rewrite that to fit their narrative, then tack on the science refs? Obviously, I do not expect you or the comment section could answer this, but if there was a way to ever find out, it would be a good start asking it here. :)

@ExJWCriticalThinker

6 жыл бұрын

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