So sad.... Remember in 1998, after one of my Long time elders passed, his wife called their DF'd son, just to inform him "Well, I just wanted to let you know that your father died last night, and 2nd... I don't want to catch you at the funeral" Like, what kind of sick people act like this

@gloriaprater2753

Жыл бұрын

The only time I received a phone call from my youngest brother, who is an elder, was to tell me someone was very sick or had died. When texting became available I received text rather than phone calls. I got the one text with no follow up. I finally made peace with it and blocked him from texting me. I also have a JW cousin who would call me every few months, it was like she was taking an inventory of what was going on in my life and share nothing about her or her family. I allowed her and my brother to dictate the terms of how much of a relationship I was allowed to have with them....I finally took a stand and cut off the far and few phone calls and text. I'm 57 and have put up with their BS since I was a kid. DONE!

@jimbobaggans1564

Жыл бұрын

@Gloria Prater Good for you Gloria!! Of course the witnesses will blame it on you. They say that you are shunning them, they are not shunning you. These sick people always want to turn their behavior around and blame it on you. Yep, it's always your fault. They would talk to you if you would come back to jehovah. Well no thank you! Move along jehovah witnesses, move along.

@gloriaprater2753

Жыл бұрын

@@jimbobaggans1564 I was shunned many years ago. They conveniently never invited me for dinner, movies, nada.....I got the occasional phone call or text to tell me someone was near death or had died. I purposely moved more than 2000 miles away and blocked them. I don't need to hear about someone dying, I am come on their dead nothing a person can do now.

@ExJWCriticalThinker

Жыл бұрын

And they call this a loving arrangement

@louispierre154

Жыл бұрын

God that is completely heartless god's loving organisaion i dont think so

When I left I thought I was going to die at Armageddon so I just lived the best I could. I married and had two daughters. I raised them to be the best that they could be. I also raised them to believe what they wanted. It wasn’t until I woke up 2016 that I realized I did the right thing. I am a Christian and I know God led me out. I asked God to lead me where I needed to be and it wasn’t to the Watchtower.

@deksper

Жыл бұрын

Hi there Courageous Ana; as a Christian, you have the future of a destiny far better than any promise behind the carrot from the JW cult. Be blessed dear woman. Derek.

@ExJWCriticalThinker

Жыл бұрын

Good to hear you got your family with you This couple lost their entire support system As the judge sat there shaking his head thinking These guys don't get it

@alexshatner3907

Жыл бұрын

Of course your god and father led you out, “You are from your father the Devil, and you wish to do the desires of your father. That one was a manslayer when he began, and he did not stand fast in the truth, because truth is not in him.” (Joh 8:44)

@ExJWCriticalThinker

Жыл бұрын

The sheer level of hypocrisy is just amazing I recall the first time I read the 1947 awake about dfing/excommunication by the Catholic Church They roasted and toasted them on this issue Then less than 10 yrs later they were doing it Go figure their new light program

@thetruthk5138

Жыл бұрын

@@alexshatner3907 Go away are you counting time a return visit. More box ticking. GB eight men appointed by God it's beyond ridiculous.

I got DF because my ex husband beat me and I got a divorce. I had told the Elders repeatedly what was happening and they told me that I needed to be a more obedient wife. I was a regular pioneer. So after my divorce I was reproved then moved away out of state. A year later started dating a guy in the congregation. We end up getting engaged and then married. 3 months later Elders called my hubby in a room before Theocratic Ministry meeting. He comes out and says let's go . They told him my divorce was never on the grounds of adultery so he needed to leave me. I told him if that was what he wanted I totally understand. He said forget them if they think a woman should be single the rest of her life because of abuse they are living by the letter of thr law instead of by the spirit of the law. So they never talked to me. The next week, they got up and made the announcement that we were DF they used my other married name. My mil called and told us she can't talk to us anymore and we are no longer welcome there. Well a few months go by and she starts sneaking over because she couldn't handle it. She hated the society does that. When her husband died and her sisters and other family came out she wanted me and my hubby there too we told family watch no one will talk to us. We asked Mormon Missionaries to go there with us and they did and we told them watch no one will talk to us and sure enough JW shook everyone's hands nice to meet you to everyone got to us walked right past us and then continued back with the nice to meet you again. Her sisters said this is absolutely why they would never be a JW they tear families apart. I was so distraught by the instant cutting off. They make an announcement but no one knows circumstances they blindly follow. If they knew the stupid reasons for some of the DF they probably would reconsider being a JW.

Thank You very much for making this video. You know I'm not even disfellowshipped nor am I Disassociated. I just simply walked away. Yes I'm baptized, but I haven'g done anything to be disfellowshipped. Yet my whole family is shunning me. So you don't have to be any of the above to be shunned. Just fade out and watch the shunning begin. You don't even have to be baptized these days to be shunned. If you're going to the meetings, but am not do "everything" the organization expects of you, the friends in the congregation will start soft shunning you. It's a wicked cult. I can't call it a religion anymore. David Gnam the Canadian Lawyer for the Canadian Branch saying, "Family relationships continue just not in a spiritual way." Well heck we all know that a JW's life is nothing but the spiritual aspect of the cult. You can't sit at a table for a nice family meal without talking about the "Truth". No this is dangerous and I hope this tragic news reaches many across the world and the governments need to be aware of what damage is done in this cult. It needs to change it's policies or cease to exist. Thanks again and great to see your smiling faces again.

@cherylseebreth328

Жыл бұрын

I was soft shunned because I dared to do part time Studies on the meeting nights.

@Bad80y1

Жыл бұрын

@@cherylseebreth328 - They are nuts. Gotten more nuts since these 8 lunatics took over some years ago. They are crapping on anybody that blinks the wrong way. Hopefully they'll just piss everyone off and self destroy themselves. Was born in the cult and am choked I finally woke up at 56 years of age. I've had doubts all my life, but was in fear of just about anything. Wasted my life away on a damn cult. Those 8 freaks need to be investigated and put away and if they don't wanna fix their damn policies, then shut em down.

@clearlynotalways6476

Жыл бұрын

Agree agree agreee! I'm fading out and I'm being softly shunned 😅 I have my disassociation letter ready whenever one of our 27 (yes, 27!) elders in the congregation decide to reach out 😂

@Bad80y1

Жыл бұрын

@@clearlynotalways6476- Forget the letter. Just fade out. They don't deserve another minute of your time. Save the paper, stamp, and effort. Whether you just fade out or submit a disassociation letter, it's the same thing in the end.

@ExJWCriticalThinker

Жыл бұрын

Same here we just WALKED AWAY and never looked back

I don't think you realize how much your channel has helped people. I want to thank you both and all who help with yout channel. The topics you discuss are needed and I share your videos with family and friends. Yall are doing a great job helping people do CRITICAL THINKING 💡.

@joegonzalez842

Жыл бұрын

Yes these guys are so real they have help me so much they are TRUTH

@rasheingwilliams5313

Жыл бұрын

Very true. They helped me deprogram from JW ways even though I left in 96 and knew the teachings were trash. JT & Lady Cee probably don't realize how many people they help.

@ExJWCriticalThinker

Жыл бұрын

Glad we could be apart of your journey We have to help each other or we will lose our minds and the price is too high for not knowing this is not the truth

@ExJWCriticalThinker

Жыл бұрын

@@joegonzalez842 Thz

@ExJWCriticalThinker

Жыл бұрын

@@rasheingwilliams5313 thx for sharing your thoughts

This is so sad. Even more unbelievable the JWs will not think for one moment that they played any part in these tragic events. They will lay 100% of the blame on the person who DA or was DF. They will be telling their children "See that's what happens when you leave Jehovah" It's framed in away that shunning is loving and you are wrong if you don't practice it . Truly heartbreaking

@jimbobaggans1564

Жыл бұрын

But, do you know what I like about jehovah witnesses? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!

@alexshatner3907

Жыл бұрын

The Bible commands Christians: “Quit mixing in company with anyone called a brother that is a fornicator or a greedy person or an idolater or a reviler or a drunkard or an extortioner, not even eating with such a man.”-1 Corinthians 5:11. Is this Bible law harsh and demeaning? Just consider this: When a hardened criminal is sent to prison for breaking the law, is that viewed as harsh or coldhearted? No, because the public has the right to safeguard the peace and security of the community. In effect, the criminal is disfellowshipped from law-abiding society during his prison term. Similarly, the Christian congregation is justified in expelling unrepentant wrongdoers from their midst. Why? Because the congregation must be a haven from immoral predators and other willful practicers of sin. Realizing that “one sinner can destroy much good,” the apostle Paul commanded fellow believers: “Remove the wicked man from among yourselves.” (Ecclesiastes 9:18; 1 Corinthians 5:13) This action prevents the sinner from spreading corruption in the congregation, and it protects the congregation’s good name.-Compare 1 Timothy 3:15.

@dancingnature

Жыл бұрын

Being DF’d is just abusive . Over controlling sadistic narcissistic behavior is not being “ law abiding “ ,Alex !

@evilbuddha7819

Жыл бұрын

@@alexshatner3907 The criminal justice system is broken, but that aside, it is recognized that solitary confinement (jail disfellowshipping if you will) is too cruel, even, for most jails. If Jesus is our exemplar - more than Paul or any imperfect human - please ask yourself: "who did Jesus ever shun?"

@alexshatner3907

Жыл бұрын

@@jimbobaggans1564 I personally know people that have left other religions, and are not beating their previous churches or faith's to the pulp, yet mentally ill diseased people ( as the bible put's it based on the original Greek scriptures) continue to hammer and hammer Jehovah's organization. you are wasting your life away and I got news for you and all your conspired demon servants, "JEHOVAH'S ORGANIZATION AIN'T GOING NOWHERES" he created the whole universe to include Billions upon Billions of stars, the weight of planet Earth alone is… 13,170,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 (1.3 x 1025) pounds! That's thirteen septillion! to be eventually inhabited forever in a paradise like setting,,, and you think you mortal and rotting souls have the capability of eradicating, annihilating, or extinguishing Jehovah's organization's existence???, you're all in for a great surprise. Satan and his demons already know that is not going to happen, but just as he fooled Eve, you guys also fell for the trap.

Thank you for addressing this murder suicide that occurred on Christmas Day. The couple reaching out to the Jehovah witnesses for help and probably got rejected. Jehovah witnesses love is conditional. Nowhere near agape love.

And the worst part is, that public information department is going to go out of it's way to push more puff pieces to try and cover over this terrible tragedy. 😥

@ExJWCriticalThinker

Жыл бұрын

They cannot run from their own published material In fact their current approach allows folks to see their hypocrisy clearly They shoot themselves in the foot

@cherylseebreth328

Жыл бұрын

They lie, those Christians

@bernice4477

Жыл бұрын

@@ExJWCriticalThinker new light of some kind will be the excuse. They do shocking things/ have low value for life and they always get away with it. This will be no different.

@alexshatner3907

Жыл бұрын

@@ExJWCriticalThinker The Bible commands Christians: “Quit mixing in company with anyone called a brother that is a fornicator or a greedy person or an idolater or a reviler or a drunkard or an extortioner, not even eating with such a man.”-1 Corinthians 5:11. Is this Bible law harsh and demeaning? Just consider this: When a hardened criminal is sent to prison for breaking the law, is that viewed as harsh or coldhearted? No, because the public has the right to safeguard the peace and security of the community. In effect, the criminal is disfellowshipped from law-abiding society during his prison term. Similarly, the Christian congregation is justified in expelling unrepentant wrongdoers from their midst. Why? Because the congregation must be a haven from immoral predators and other willful practicers of sin. Realizing that “one sinner can destroy much good,” the apostle Paul commanded fellow believers: “Remove the wicked man from among yourselves.” (Ecclesiastes 9:18; 1 Corinthians 5:13) This action prevents the sinner from spreading corruption in the congregation, and it protects the congregation’s good name.-Compare 1 Timothy 3:15.

@smellslikefreespirit670

Жыл бұрын

@@alexshatner3907 haha haha yep, I used to believe that crap to. You dont go to jail because you don't believe anymore what you used to believe, nor if you fornicate or smoke, or drink or disagree with your "authorities" and act as an individual person with free will. That's an apologetic statement and sounds cultish to me.

It is a real thing! I was shunned from my family it was a really hard time! It caused me so much stress and depression! One day they could talk to me the next they would shun me! It was such a vicious cycle! They would only reach out to me if someone in family died or got cancer!! I finally told them they are all dead to me I buried them all!! That was the best thing I ever did! I was finally able to move on!! Having videos like this has helped so much!!

@alexshatner3907

Жыл бұрын

The Bible commands Christians: “Quit mixing in company with anyone called a brother that is a fornicator or a greedy person or an idolater or a reviler or a drunkard or an extortioner, not even eating with such a man.”-1 Corinthians 5:11. Is this Bible law harsh and demeaning? Just consider this: When a hardened criminal is sent to prison for breaking the law, is that viewed as harsh or coldhearted? No, because the public has the right to safeguard the peace and security of the community. In effect, the criminal is disfellowshipped from law-abiding society during his prison term. Similarly, the Christian congregation is justified in expelling unrepentant wrongdoers from their midst. Why? Because the congregation must be a haven from immoral predators and other willful practicers of sin. Realizing that “one sinner can destroy much good,” the apostle Paul commanded fellow believers: “Remove the wicked man from among yourselves.” (Ecclesiastes 9:18; 1 Corinthians 5:13) This action prevents the sinner from spreading corruption in the congregation, and it protects the congregation’s good name.-Compare 1 Timothy 3:15.

@chrissonofpear1384

Жыл бұрын

@@alexshatner3907 Christian congregations tolerated slavery (for life, too, yes - read Leviticus 25:46) and infanti-cide, at least scripturally. Hebrews tolerate that and coerced marriages (Deuteronomy 21:13, Numbers 31:18) and didn't suffer Achan's grandkids (how old were they?) in Joshua 7:24, to live. Or a whole family in 1 Kings 14. And in 2 Samuel 24 70,000 of them get wiped out by Jehovah over a silly census dispute? And how did they even know who SHOULD be in the congregation, if so few of them FULFIL John 14:12-13? Was Pope Paul III, Gregory XIII, Torquemada, and other even more whacko theists, ever asked to prove or fulfil it, either? Before making any POLICY? Let alone, backing so many wars. And nutty rebel angels spread their sin to unwitting humans in Eden; even to UNBORN humans, in Eden. Seems sloppy. Or were they owed, to?

@alexshatner3907

Жыл бұрын

@@Gtumrths You are wrong and you are wasting your life away attacking the organization, and I got news for you and all your conspired demon servants, "JEHOVAH'S ORGANIZATION AIN'T GOING NOWHERES" he created the whole universe to include Billions upon Billions of stars, the weight of planet Earth alone is… 13,170,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 (1.3 x 1025) pounds! That's thirteen septillion! to be eventually inhabited forever in a paradise like setting,,, and you think you mortal and rotting souls have the capability of eradicating, annihilating, or extinguishing Jehovah's organization's existence???, you're all in for a great surprise. Satan and his demons already know that is not going to happen, but just as he fooled Eve, you guys also fell for the trap.

@davidfaraday7963

Жыл бұрын

@@alexshatner3907 Criminals in prison can still communicate with their families, so in many ways the punishment meted-out to those leaving the Watchtower cult is worse than that of hardened criminals. And the "sin" that the shunned have "committed" is simply realising that Watchtower is an evil organisation. You would do better to look into the doings of Watchtower, than spamming this comment section with your lies.

@alexshatner3907

Жыл бұрын

@@davidfaraday7963 When the bible talks about apostates, it is not refering to sinful criminals, the laws of men are the las of men, the laws of God are obove, The Bible commands Christians: “Quit mixing in company with anyone called a brother that is a fornicator or a greedy person or an idolater or a reviler or a drunkard or an extortioner, not even eating with such a man.”-1 Corinthians 5:11. Is this Bible law harsh and demeaning? Just consider this: When a hardened criminal is sent to prison for breaking the law, is that viewed as harsh or coldhearted? No, because the public has the right to safeguard the peace and security of the community. In effect, the criminal is disfellowshipped from law-abiding society during his prison term. Similarly, the Christian congregation is justified in expelling unrepentant wrongdoers from their midst. Why? Because the congregation must be a haven from immoral predators and other willful practicers of sin. Realizing that “one sinner can destroy much good,” the apostle Paul commanded fellow believers: “Remove the wicked man from among yourselves.” (Ecclesiastes 9:18; 1 Corinthians 5:13) This action prevents the sinner from spreading corruption in the congregation, and it protects the congregation’s good name.-Compare 1 Timothy 3:15.

I am an exJW. (One of my JW friend committed suicide too few years ago) due to deppression.Thank you for your courage to expose That Evil Religion WT.

I left at 18, was a born in 3rd gen. Still dealing with the entire list. It's sad that all of the jw abuse paired with the generational abuse really did mess me up, had 3 therapist already tell me they couldn't help me. It's all insanely disgusting how those two things found each other 🤮. Still fighting... Still fighting all the voices, the depression, anxiety, .... Some of the journey is healing, but you need to remember that life is a constant fight. Humans made it comfy, but it's still a hard fight. That's where being grateful helps. Just not going to the meetings every week and saving money to go to the beach instead of assemblies is something. I'm happy just to have hot running water and a fridge with food, even underwear ( yes, my mother sunk that low and still no jw really helped us).

Thank you for this. My brother in law committed suicide 10 years ago because he thought he was going to be DF a third time.

@n.b.johanson4732

Жыл бұрын

So sorry to hear this. So Sad

@Joeandfran

Жыл бұрын

We are really very sad to hear all these experiences. We hope that more people become aware of this heinous crime that the Watchtower is responsible for!

@SunguchMan20

Жыл бұрын

So sorry for your loss.

@angelamaryquitecontrary4609

Жыл бұрын

That's awful. I'm so very sorry.

@yasselpupo6688

Жыл бұрын

Rest in Peace 🙏🏻🙏🏻❤️❤️

"So powerful is the light of unity that it can illumine the whole earth..." -Baha'u'llah

Thank you for bringing awareness to shunning. I was born and raised JW, left many years ago, but shunned by my immediate family. Fortunately, I was able to find support and therapy helped. I have a family of my own and we are free of this now. I really feel for JWs leaving without support, and personally know several who tragically died by suicide

@alexshatner3907

Жыл бұрын

Bible commands, Christians: “Quit mixing in company with anyone called a brother that is a fornicator or a greedy person or an idolater or a reviler or a drunkard or an extortion, not even eating with such a man.”-1 Corinthians 5:11. Is this Bible law harsh and demeaning? Just consider this: When a hardened criminal is sent to prison for breaking the law, is that viewed as harsh or coldhearted? No, because the public has the right to safeguard the peace and security of the community. In effect, the criminal is disfellowshipped from law-abiding society during his prison term. Similarly, the Christian congregation is justified in expelling unrepentant wrongdoers from their midst. Why? Because the congregation must be a haven from immoral predators and other willful practices of sin. Realizing that “one sinner can destroy much good,” the apostle Paul commanded fellow believers: “Remove the wicked man from among yourselves.” (Ecclesiastes 9:18; 1 Corinthians 5:13) This action prevents the sinner from spreading corruption in the congregation, and it protects the congregation’s good name.-Compare 1 Timothy 3:15.

I went with my grandparents and aunts to a mostly black Kingdom Hall and I've seen people get this fellowshipped all the time, but they still kept in touch with their family. I've seen people go to the hall stop go to the military finish and then come back going to the hall again, in touch with the family the whole time, stayed in touch with and visited their worldly family members all the time.

@alexshatner3907

Жыл бұрын

If anyone who professes to serve God relies on his own ideas instead of adhering to the Bible and if his teaching does not ‘accord with godly devotion,’ thus failing to reflect the teacher’s devotion to God, he becomes “mentally diseased.” (1Ti 6:3, 4) also read Romans 1:28

We as a community , (ExJW's) HAVE TO keep the "Society" from Squashing THIS News . . At EVERY OPPORTUNITY We can 🤔 Think of !!

Thank you Lady Cee and JT for addressing the Colorado suicide tragedy. I experienced marking and soft shunning back in the early 80's. Why❓ Depression, and I stopped going out in field service. It seemed almost suddenly, that no one was available to even go out for a cup of coffee. One sister said to me, "I don't know why you even bother coming to the meetings, all you do is cry". A brother, one of my friends, showed me scriptures, and told me, "Jehovah's people are happy people". It was probably one of the darkest times in my life. I was naive and didn't fully realize the depth of control this Organization had on its members. I felt so alone and empty. I was encouraged by a friend from another congregation to attend her hall. When a brother expressed interest in me, a brother/ friend told him that I was marked in the previous congregation... The brother that showed interest in me is now my wonderful husband of 40 years. We left the organization in 1982. The best decision ever‼️ What I learned about this organization is, if it can't control you, it tries to destroy the very person that you are... Thank you both so much for all you do...🌺🌷🌸

@1968dogg

Жыл бұрын

I have worked in many prisons: state and federal. Isolation is the worse punishment available.

Hi JT & Lady Cee, thank you so much for this very important video. My husband and I have been out for 1 year. First thing we did was to go to a Psychiatrist together. He was very aware of the suicide with in the Jehovah’s Witness organization. We are being shunned by our 4 adult children. We are currently raising awareness about shunning, depression and suicide. We hosted a segment on the Six Screens of the Watchtower called “Suicide in the Watchtower”. We will be doing a Part 2 to that because of all the ones that called in with experiences of suicide. We’d like to use the information that you linked. Thank you so much for the awareness you are creating in the Ex Jew community.

@thrivingexjw2061

Жыл бұрын

I’m sorry you’re being shunned by your children. I’ve been shunned for 26 yrs by 4 generations of my family. I’m a firm believer that if us Ex’s keep speaking out & EXPOSING watchtower, at some point our families will wake up!! Keep up the good work & thank you for getting in the trenches & doing what needs to be done 💕

@Nica-Ra-Wata

Жыл бұрын

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Thank you so much Lady Cee and JT! I was Df for remarrying my husband of 25 years. JW destroyed my reputation, I lost everyone I knew. I was like a death woman walking for many years. It took me many years to rebuilt a new life. The backlash was very difficult. I have nightmares many years. Now I am convinced this organization is very dangerous.

@marquitaarmstrong399

Жыл бұрын

Glad you found new light

Wow this is extremely sad..I have been disfellowshipped over 6yrs and my ma has nothing to do with me. I don't remember the last time she said "I love you" or even the last time we hugged. It's so sad because she has 2 beautiful grandkids and they see the way I am treated.. Off topic, but I love your hair LadyC💕

My mom told me of a JW brother who got divorced then was disfellowship then was shunned the emotional and mental trauma led him to suicide … I’m sure this couple felt the same way ,,,so sad …I hope to see the Demise of this man made WT organization go down in my lifetime.

I was told to leave my non JW uncle's funeral by my Elder Step dad and other J.W family members due to my being Disfellowshiped, it was a hurtful and embarrassing act for myself and non J.W family members in attendance.. I am 20 years Disffellowshiped and am so thankful I kept sane and at peace with myself and my creator so as not to 💔.

@ExJWCriticalThinker

Жыл бұрын

Now, they were just wrong for doing that. Sorry you had to endure that.

@melyndaduh3501

6 ай бұрын

Same here. I went and sat w/family up front in the KH at my dear Aunt's family. I was motioned out of my seat and guided to a rear seat. Instead I walked out and have never returned. I see now that it was one of the best decisions I've made.

In my congregation when I was a child, there was a woman who was disfellowshipped. In my little heart I felt sad for her and knew this was a cruel act as she was not allowed to talk to anyone but her parents and had to sit at the back of the hall. I left at the age of 18 and never looked back. Still have some siblings who are shunning me after 45 years. Life does go on but the childhood bond never goes away in my heart for them. It is unnatural not to want to be with a loved one.

@jessicacaldwell6262

Жыл бұрын

Same here I disassociate at 20 Was not D’fd or Reproved still my siblings shunned me… you’d think your siblings who knows you personally would not shun you because you’re not a JW it’s just Crazy to stop loving you and not for who you are as a good person…🤔

@stevenclarke5606

8 ай бұрын

You did the right thing, you woke up and escaped, enjoy your life and be happy

Absolutely PHENOMENAL PHENOMENAL VIDEO..A MUST WATCH VIDEO

I want to thank you JT and Lady Cee so much for this video because shunning hurts more than some will ever know. I remember the days of thoughts of even to the point of suicide. I just talk to an active JW who has to secretly talk with her daughter who's disfellowshipped with Multiple Sclerosis. The part that hit me is when she said she prays for forgiveness for communicating with her disfellowship daughter. I was even more shocked when she stated there are elders in her congregation who still communicate with their disfellowship relatives. My family shunned me for 10 years which caused them to not get in contact with me recently to tell me my father was dying(he died just this past September) Shunning is really a control and bullying way in this religion when you think about it! Keep the videos coming. Happy New Year 2023

@horsesmakeeverythingbetter850

Жыл бұрын

I found out if they shunning u it’s because you’re not a follower.. you are 🫶🏼 by the almighty.

@MattG171

Жыл бұрын

This cult has destroyed so many lives. People need to know the truth about the so called truth.

@ExJWCriticalThinker

Жыл бұрын

Thz for sharing your exp and for confirming that the shunning policy of wt is cruel

@ExJWCriticalThinker

Жыл бұрын

Yes while many of the people we work or live around change churches they do not lose every single friend and family member who may be apart of their former religion As the judge said It is cruel

@josephd27

Жыл бұрын

I'm sorry for your loss that watchtower has made worse 😢

The WT spokesman trying to defend WT at the ARC was Rodney Spinks. I've heard from inside sourses he had a complete nervous breakdown after the commision. Probably the cognitive dissonance would have been a factor. Trying to defend the Org when in his heart he knew what the QC was saying was 100%

Thank you, JT and Lady Cee, for your first video of 2023

I was reunited with my father's side of the family and my father who is knee deep in the organization hasn't spoken or checked up on his 85 year old mother in over 20 years!🥺 All because she was df'd 40+ years ago and never "returned to Jehovah!" So I speak with her often and my nonjw uncle and auntie and their jw sister take care of her. I'm going to buy her some pajamas she wanted.😉 It bothers me greatly that a son who is a PO can't even check periodically on his elderly mom! Absolutely tragic! Great video!!😍

You two have done more good than you could ever know in helping those who have been damaged by the demented leadership of the Watchtower Society. I hope your channel continues to grow so that more may be literally saved! Thanks for another great truth packed video.

I can’t even begin to talk about Elders who don’t want to loose there position so they put their teen kids out of the house instead of stepping down and supporting their children through issues.

JT and Lady Cee, I was waiting patiently for a new video from you. Since leaving the cult I can’t get enough of the truths that you share with us ex JW’s. After being indoctrinated for 50+ years, you two had a helping hand in making it my resolve to exit from this false religion. Personally, I can’t thank you enough and owe a debt of gratitude to the two of you! Thanks a million!!!

That is so sad, I feel for these people and my prayers go out to them. I have not ever been a member of a religious organization such as this, but I do know that with my daughter and her having extreme PTSD, and other mental health issues, I have to keep an eye out for her especially when she is depressed. Thank you for sharing the information in this video. I will keep those who are being shunned in my prayers as I know He can help them; however, they need to find a good therapist that deals with trauma of coming out of a cult such as this one. I pray for their family members that they wake up and see what this organization has done to their family by insisting on shunning their disfellowshipped family members. This is an awful practice and there is nothing loving about it. We are to love one another even if we disagree with them for this is how the world will know that we follow Jesus.

@alexshatner3907

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Don' t forget to keep this in you'r prayer to, The Bible commands, Christians: “Quit mixing in company with anyone called a brother that is a fornicator or a greedy person or an idolater or a reviler or a drunkard or an extortion, not even eating with such a man.”-1 Corinthians 5:11. Is this Bible law harsh and demeaning? Just consider this: When a hardened criminal is sent to prison for breaking the law, is that viewed as harsh or coldhearted? No, because the public has the right to safeguard the peace and security of the community. In effect, the criminal is disfellowshipped from law-abiding society during his prison term. Similarly, the Christian congregation is justified in expelling unrepentant wrongdoers from their midst. Why? Because the congregation must be a haven from immoral predators and other willful practices of sin. Realizing that “one sinner can destroy much good,” the apostle Paul commanded fellow believers: “Remove the wicked man from among yourselves.” (Ecclesiastes 9:18; 1 Corinthians 5:13) This action prevents the sinner from spreading corruption in the congregation, and it protects the congregation’s good name.-Compare 1 Timothy 3:15.

Shunning was a powerful tool to control people in the 50's to the 70's. But people nowadays are crazy now and they can get aggressive if shunned.

@robertgrey6101

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B1 Crusade Crazy, aggressive, wanting to destroy an entity which has caused them pain, psychological angst plus many other mental health problems. Jehovah is a God of l❤ve. Yes ?? Before Nathan Homer Knorr congregants stood in front of the congregation, confess their Sins then all was forgiven. Now, Knorr wanted to inflict PAIN by DfD those who were seen as bringing shame on the taken name of God. Where is the love in that??

@b1crusade384

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@@robertgrey6101 Please stay focus on my point. Any bitter you have is unfortunate but unrelated to my point.

@ExJWCriticalThinker

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Yes it is a powerful indeed

@ExJWCriticalThinker

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@@robertgrey6101 once the Wt condemned excommunication as a tool of Satan Now it is their Most powerful tool amazing how things change is it not ? You got to love Wt No one does hypocrisy like them Hyproceisy

@kimbal1958

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@@ExJWCriticalThinker - Shunning is a tool of Satan - because Jehovah is the great Yaldabaoth ( Saklas ) who happens to be the head of the Theocrats - who identify themselves as SATAN. The only true Theocracy, the Watchtower, is actually a Satanic Cult using psuedo love and light as their front image. Fracturing personas is part of being a good Satanist. Shunning ( a form of passive gaslighting ), narcissism and pedophile are some of those tools. Fighting them with powerful Magick is the only thing that will break that organization. And we all know - Jehovah condemns the use of Magick in the bible - because it does have a hidden power to those that know how to master it. Nimrod / Osiris the "Dead and Rising God" and writer of many magickal texts, was not "a mighty hunter in opposition to Jehovah" for no good reason. He saw through this deities mind games, just as so many others now do.

Howdy JT and Lady C. I liked this video about an imprtant topic. I was very close to suicide when I lost my exwife to the cult. She left me with the words «i love you but i love them more» after almost 20 years of marriage. I loved her more then anything. I did not kill myself, and other youtubers was a great help. Thats why I started my channel, to spread some yoi and show those trapped that there is a wonderfull world on the outside. I can now share the happy news that I will be a father this summer ❤ Life is great. Thanx for this video

@ExJWCriticalThinker

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Hey there! Thanks for stopping by to share your experience. So sorry you had to endure the bad experience with Watchtower. We remember you sharing that experience and no one should have to experience that. We are happy to hear thecgood news about the baby. Congratulations!!! 🎈🎉🎊

@halleluyah757

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Happy for you

@cooperjackson4348

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Congratulations on the new edition to your family!!! #BABYONBOARD

@alexshatner3907

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Yea you are right, I hear even thousands Jehovah witnesses veterans, and Jehovah's witnesses Catholics, are also committing suicide every hour according to the news, and to also include a very faithful servant of Jehovah Robin Williams.

Thank you so much for shining a light on this! I am an Ex-Mormon, and I love your channel! Shunning is a severe and cruel form of punishment.

@alexshatner3907

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Bible commands, Christians: “Quit mixing in company with anyone called a brother that is a fornicator or a greedy person or an idolater or a reviler or a drunkard or an extortion, not even eating with such a man.”-1 Corinthians 5:11. Is this Bible law harsh and demeaning? Just consider this: When a hardened criminal is sent to prison for breaking the law, is that viewed as harsh or coldhearted? No, because the public has the right to safeguard the peace and security of the community. In effect, the criminal is disfellowshipped from law-abiding society during his prison term. Similarly, the Christian congregation is justified in expelling unrepentant wrongdoers from their midst. Why? Because the congregation must be a haven from immoral predators and other willful practices of sin. Realizing that “one sinner can destroy much good,” the apostle Paul commanded fellow believers: “Remove the wicked man from among yourselves.” (Ecclesiastes 9:18; 1 Corinthians 5:13) This action prevents the sinner from spreading corruption in the congregation, and it protects the congregation’s good name.-Compare 1 Timothy 3:15.

@SonicGamerGirl2006

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@@alexshatner3907 This doesn't make shunning any less unacceptable. This is the WORST thing you could do to a person, ESPECIALLY to someone who is in DESPERATE need of support in something they may be going through in their life, such as alcohol addiction. These's ABSOLUTELY NO excuse for treating others like this.

@alexshatner3907

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@@SonicGamerGirl2006 And there is no excuse to become addicted to illegal drugs and alcoholism, and by the way Alcohol is also a drug. If there is no discipline against drugs and alcohol, then there is no control over its usage, Alcohol and drugs alike alter the mind to the point that makes certain individuals violent to the point of taking others peoples life, at times drunkards are even involved in wife beating. I there is no rule for addiction what kind of message is sent to the rest of the congregation? Yes go ahead everybody drink all you want, there is no Christian Law against it. The Greek word to drug is (Fármako) which is defined as Witchcraft, so clearly those under the influence of illicit drugs are open to demonic possession.

This whole cult is horrible. Raising children in this is so bad. They ruin lives and they should be held accountable. Love you both. Thank you for all you do for those of us taking our lives back and waking up. 🙏🏾

@alexshatner3907

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The Bible commands Christians: “Quit mixing in company with anyone called a brother that is a fornicator or a greedy person or an idolater or a reviler or a drunkard or an extortioner, not even eating with such a man.”-1 Corinthians 5:11. Is this Bible law harsh and demeaning? Just consider this: When a hardened criminal is sent to prison for breaking the law, is that viewed as harsh or coldhearted? No, because the public has the right to safeguard the peace and security of the community. In effect, the criminal is disfellowshipped from law-abiding society during his prison term. Similarly, the Christian congregation is justified in expelling unrepentant wrongdoers from their midst. Why? Because the congregation must be a haven from immoral predators and other willful practicers of sin. Realizing that “one sinner can destroy much good,” the apostle Paul commanded fellow believers: “Remove the wicked man from among yourselves.” (Ecclesiastes 9:18; 1 Corinthians 5:13) This action prevents the sinner from spreading corruption in the congregation, and it protects the congregation’s good name.-Compare 1 Timothy 3:15.

@realliving7340

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I agree. I hope they pay for what they have done to my family and so many others!

@Linda-ux8un

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@@alexshatner3907 While there is a scriptural basis for disfellowshipping unrepentant practicers of certain sins, the Watchtower has gone beyond what has been written in the Scriptures and has used disfellowshipping as a weapon of coercion. It is even as Jehovah has stated in prophecy regarding those whom he has appointed as shepherds of his people: “You have not strengthened the weak or healed the sick or bandaged the injured or brought back the strays or looked for the lost; rather, you have ruled them with harshness and tyranny.”

@alexshatner3907

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@@Linda-ux8un The so called "weapon" as you you put it, was established 2000 years ago, but you are entitled to your opinion, becuase that is all it is just an opinion.

Finally starting to move on now, but I left 3 months ago and yes I did feel hopeless and worthless at first but help from new friends and my parents really helped me to Move on! And JT and lady Cee also gave me know that truly is life after watch tower! I’m still making progress some days or easier than others but I’m moving forward!

@alexshatner3907

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The Bible commands Christians: “Quit mixing in company with anyone called a brother that is a fornicator or a greedy person or an idolater or a reviler or a drunkard or an extortioner, not even eating with such a man.”-1 Corinthians 5:11. Is this Bible law harsh and demeaning? Just consider this: When a hardened criminal is sent to prison for breaking the law, is that viewed as harsh or coldhearted? No, because the public has the right to safeguard the peace and security of the community. In effect, the criminal is disfellowshipped from law-abiding society during his prison term. Similarly, the Christian congregation is justified in expelling unrepentant wrongdoers from their midst. Why? Because the congregation must be a haven from immoral predators and other willful practicers of sin. Realizing that “one sinner can destroy much good,” the apostle Paul commanded fellow believers: “Remove the wicked man from among yourselves.” (Ecclesiastes 9:18; 1 Corinthians 5:13) This action prevents the sinner from spreading corruption in the congregation, and it protects the congregation’s good name.-Compare 1 Timothy 3:15.

@dancingnature

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Stop lying Alex

Thank you so much for covering this. I was a JW for about 5 years and got 'reprimanded'. I know it is nothing at all the same as being DF, but people in the Hall don't just 'not talk to you', you KNOW they think you are absolutely horrid. I have since that time, for the approximate past 12 years, been 'associated' the a different 'high-control' group (only figured that out recently) and just a few months ago, an Elder AND his wife (for siding with him) were dis-fellowshipped by this 2nd group because he taught in a Bible Study Group on Zoom (making it 'public', even though it was by invitation only) something they do not agree that his view on Fasting for Atonement was Biblical about Fasting for Atonement HAD to be ONLY by no Food OR Drink and they say THAT is the ONLY way to Afflict your soul. I have since that time, withdrawn from that 'man made denomination'. SUPPSELDY this Disfellowshipping is 'Biblical' and for the Flock's safety....I No Longer agree with that! thank you again for the video and your site

This org made my sister like a robot, she doesn’t know that I’m fading, so we are jw sisters between us, but the problem is, even though I want a normal conversation with her and will call her, her response always is, “sorry I’m busy need to prepare for meetings, for preaching, for CO visit, for assembly, for org something。。。This is how they are controlled, lacks natural affection. She doesn’t even ask how I’m doing😢

@ExJWCriticalThinker

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Yup! Robot is the best way to explain their actions. We had a a sister in our congregation and her daughter was gonna go out in service with me and my parents but we couldn’t go because the weather was too bad (snowstorm). We came back to our apartment and were gonna just hang out for the day. She called her daughter on the phone and told her to go home and study her watchtower if we weren’t going to go out in field service. So instead of allowing her to be around people, she made her go do more watchtower stuff. We really felt sorry for that little girl because she was so mentally abused by her mother with this religion. We often wonder where she is today and her life is no doubt representative of how she was raised. LC

@lh1673

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LC, Wow what a sad story for the girl you’ve known. I also think if my sister has a child she would be like that girl’s jw mother.

Couldn’t have broken this down any more clearer.. I’m just lost for words. As a current disfellowshipped person and a person who suffers from depression, this is something serious that I’m sure many more disfellowshipped people have thought about . JT and Lady Cee, keep pushing, keep encouraging and continue to show this organization is wrong for their point of view and how they continue to glorify something that clearly is wrong . I’ve listen and watched alot of videos on here of any examples of how this organization is wrong . But you give a professional, clear and precise example of how this practices are not Inline with what God tells us.. thank you so so much for your support and love you have for us! ❤

@cherylseebreth328

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Agreed! JT and Lady Cee tell it as it is. They simply state the cold hard facts and bounce.

@MiguelRodriguez-ok9rb

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Screw that shit it doesn't work on me why would you want to go back it bs crap

@alexshatner3907

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The Bible commands Christians: “Quit mixing in company with anyone called a brother that is a fornicator or a greedy person or an idolater or a reviler or a drunkard or an extortioner, not even eating with such a man.”-1 Corinthians 5:11. Is this Bible law harsh and demeaning? Just consider this: When a hardened criminal is sent to prison for breaking the law, is that viewed as harsh or coldhearted? No, because the public has the right to safeguard the peace and security of the community. In effect, the criminal is disfellowshipped from law-abiding society during his prison term. Similarly, the Christian congregation is justified in expelling unrepentant wrongdoers from their midst. Why? Because the congregation must be a haven from immoral predators and other willful practicers of sin. Realizing that “one sinner can destroy much good,” the apostle Paul commanded fellow believers: “Remove the wicked man from among yourselves.” (Ecclesiastes 9:18; 1 Corinthians 5:13) This action prevents the sinner from spreading corruption in the congregation, and it protects the congregation’s good name.-Compare 1 Timothy 3:15.

@cherylseebreth328

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@@alexshatner3907 But my friend, who told you that God has a chosen organization/congregation from which you can condemn and judge persons. Who among you can cast the first stone? Who Alex? John 8:7 Is it the 8 headed pope who claims to be the mediator between you and jesus?

@georgebrown8312

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Furthermore, alexshatner, the Bible says we are to shun evil, not the people who are sinners. We are not to partake of the deeds of the wicked. It is one thing to associate with evildoers. Taking part in, or partaking of, their deeds is different. Jesus never shunned sinners. Jesus proved that God-fearing people can associate with wicked ones without partaking of their acts.

Thanks for another inspiring video message! I am proud to say I attended my last JW meeting exactly 23 years ago today - Jan 2, 2000. Keep striving in 2023 and live your own life!

Tragic circumstances in the Kingdom Hall in Colorado, but Jehovah's Witnesses push people to the limits so this was bound to happen

Woah brillant! ... and the most terrible statement was: "suppose that person is calling and they're about to decide to their life ... and you didn't..."

What you said about hopelessness and the careless and harmful behaviours it can lead to is so true. When you think you're about to die at Armageddon, you become extremely reckless, engaging in every type of what is essentially self harm.

Very good point this shunning isn't part of the study package . I remember asking about DF as a child "studying" with JW , as my study conductors own sister was DF at the time. I was told "Yes they can still speak and have a relationship, but they just can't talk about biblical things!" Utter lies

@alexshatner3907

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The Bible commands Christians: “Quit mixing in company with anyone called a brother that is a fornicator or a greedy person or an idolater or a reviler or a drunkard or an extortioner, not even eating with such a man.”-1 Corinthians 5:11. Is this Bible law harsh and demeaning? Just consider this: When a hardened criminal is sent to prison for breaking the law, is that viewed as harsh or coldhearted? No, because the public has the right to safeguard the peace and security of the community. In effect, the criminal is disfellowshipped from law-abiding society during his prison term. Similarly, the Christian congregation is justified in expelling unrepentant wrongdoers from their midst. Why? Because the congregation must be a haven from immoral predators and other willful practicers of sin. Realizing that “one sinner can destroy much good,” the apostle Paul commanded fellow believers: “Remove the wicked man from among yourselves.” (Ecclesiastes 9:18; 1 Corinthians 5:13) This action prevents the sinner from spreading corruption in the congregation, and it protects the congregation’s good name.-Compare 1 Timothy 3:15.

@jacquij3831

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@@alexshatner3907 Paul then wrote back 2 Corinthians 2:7 "So you should rather forgive and comfort him, or he maybe overwhelmed by excessive sorrow" so a total reversal from Paul in his 2nd letter referring to the same incident . 1 Cor 13:13. Please tell me why JW do not tell people at the door or in "bible study" that they will be told to shun family members, in fact they claim the opposite "family ties remain".

@alexshatner3907

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​@@jacquij3831 it's like the Doctor telling you that you need an amputation before the need is there ,what a ridiculous and stupid question about the door to door!!!! Well great mocker I suggest you check into the god of the Catholics and every other religion for that matter, every other god is very forgiving in the acceptance of every sin under the sun, there are no commitments, no obligations, you have choices. No other religion abides by Gods rules and regulations, but your relief will only be temporary, and go ahead and live your paradise right now, for a limited time only and while it lasts.

@jacquij3831

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@@alexshatner3907 What a stupid analogy ! They actively lie ! My so called "bible tutor" sister got DF and i asked "will she be able to speak and have a relationship with her sister" I was told "Yes , but they can't talk about the bible" that's a lie! So nothing to do with the foolish analogy you just gave ! Also you are talking about God forgiveness !! The verse I quoted to you is literally a follow up of Paul's letter to the Corinthians showing a reversal of his first stance on the matter, that you tried to use as justification for shunning not some random act of forgiveness from God!

@alexshatner3907

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@@jacquij3831What do you know about analogy mr professor, I personally know people that have left various other religions, and are not beating their previous religions or faith's like a death horse, yet mentally ill diseased apostates (as the bible put's it based on the original Greek scriptures) continue to hammer and hammer Jehovah's organization to the pulp. you are wasting your life away,,,, and I got news for you and all your conspired apostates, "JEHOVAH'S ORGANIZATION AIN'T GOING NOWHERES" he created the whole universe to include Billions upon Billions of stars, and Galaxies, the weight alone of planet Earth is… 13,170,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 (1.3 x 1025) pounds! That's thirteen septillion! to be eventually inhabited forever in a paradise like setting,,, and you think you mortal have the capability of eradicating, annihilating, or extinguishing Jehovah's organization's existence???, you're all in for a great surprise. Satan and his demons already know that is not going to happen, but just as he fooled Eve, you people also fell for the trap. You make demons and your father Satan very pleased. They sit back in the spiritual realm and just grin and laugh with joy, at your accomplishments.

I'm a retired therapist. One thing that is absolutely true is that if a disfellowshipped person is cut off from their families then the family won't be able to recognize the systems and signs of suicide.

Thank you so much JT and lady Cee your content has been such a validation for me. I was a witness for 10 years five of which I was a regular pioneer. What drew my was the concept of a loving family the brothers and sisters but I can't tell you now in the 10 years I was a witness I experienced so much hostility and envy and just down right hate even when I was a pioneer. In fact it got worse when I was a pioneer. My anxiety was so high I once went to the hospital thinking I'm sick cause my body was sore but the doctor after running all sorts of test said nothing is wrong with you physically but here In your head ,what is troubling you.? I realized it was the ongoing strife I had with an elders wife who was convinced I wanted her man. I have been expelled and shunned for a year now I 5 months into my disfellowshipped state the relief I had was amazing. I felt as though a huge weight had been lifted off my shoulders, I hated being in that toxic environment but I couldn't leave because I thought it was the truth. I am so grateful to ex witnesses who do what you guys do. The truth about the "truth " will set you free

@ExJWCriticalThinker

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Glad to hear you are out and hanging in there The stress level from this organization is unreal It affects us mentally and physically Glad we could share our little knowledge and exp with you As we say we all have to pay it forward as we help each other We are not alone is what we all need to keep in mind Lady C and JT

Good to see you 2 Again Lady C and JT I totally 💯 agree so glad I am Out of that EVIL 👿 DEMON CULT Looking forward to your Next Informative Video KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK And Thank u 🙏🏾 Both👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿😊

There is so much evidence from their own videos, this is a cruel and dangerous religion.

I was born into this cult, and I was forced to attend all of the meetings by my father who was an elder and head of the RBC. Long story short, I've always made friends in school, because I've never made true friends in the kingdom hall. In my opinion, they were gossipers and backstabbers. At the age of 17, I was able to leave this cult, but at a huge cost. By dad had shunned me from 17 thru the age of 35. My mom is a MIFO (Mentally In Physically Out) so I always had her support. After I married a non-JW my dad had realized who his true friends were... I only have a good 4 adult years with my dad. The cult had stolen the remaining years with my father, before he had passed away with Alzheimer's with dementia.

For a long time I’ve really been afraid to look up exjw contents because of obvious reasons(THE ELDERS ACTIVELY TELL YOU NOT TO LISTEN TO SO CALLED APOSTATES) But now I have the closure I need. Thank you guys very much.

🥹 🥹 🥹 🥲 I really love and appreciate you two!

One thing I would like to say is that Jehovah’s witnesses will shun you if you quit attending meetings. You don’t have to be disfellowshipped to be shunned. I know this from personal experience.

@ExJWCriticalThinker

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Absolutely TRUE!!!

@nervotica7991

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Wow!

@alexshatner3907

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you've shunned yourself lady, by Jehovah's standards it's no different

This broke my heart! The wickedness has to stop

I am so glad I started researching JW. A friend of mind was studying with me and I was led to research the religion. Thank you Jesus. I will not be studying anymore. This is not Love. They are being exposed.

@davidcole1765gmailcom

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Hello sister, how are you doing today?

JTLady Cee You deserve many of the following for the truths you share with us. ❤ ❤ ❤

I have to wonder if the pipe bombs were thrown in the back room where the disfelloshiping shunning happens

People are already in pain ...hence moral mistakes happen ....then to compound the pain with ostracism ???....It's astonishing that these incidents do not happen more often 😵😵😵

The other really sad part of JWs is when a family member has mental Illness. I have seen at least two people in my family that had severe mental problems. One had asbergers syndrome- my little brother who committed suicide . The other was my cousin who had been diagnosed with a dilusional disorder aka schizophrenia. My brother never was babtized but his mind was so broken from the strict teachings of JW and the lack of love shown to him from the congregation. My cousin was babtized as a young adolescent before he started to show his mental illness. As it became apparent that he was not right as he aged he ended up disfellowshiped . After that he declined to the point of being put in a mental institution. His mother never once has even tried to see him in all these years . She shunned him and never again spoke to him. How heartless do you have to be to even have factual evidence that he is mentally ill, to not even try to communicate with your own flesh and blood.

Lost but not forgotten , a victim to the watchtower Stephen Rodgers RIP

Happy New Year, great to see you again in 2023 JT and and Lady C. Great intro, fits the event perfectly.

another outstanding video. i have not been to a meeting in 8 years and a brother told me that an elder told him that i was a bad associate. this brother asked why and no reason was given. i texted this elder and he denied it. but, i know better. i have a few friends on the inside hence the reason i have not written a letter to disassociate. these people are cruel to the bone

Thanks again for breaking this situation down so clearly. I have lost a few friends to suicide and now my nephew is homeless because his parents will not talk to him. Their control tactics are so damaging!

This encourages me !! I'm not a JW but have close friends who are . I'm starting to expose and telling them about the deceitful organization.

Thanks for really breaking down on how this JW org really can do psychological damage to so many with their disfellowshipping doctrine. I would love to see a Class Action Lawsuit brought against this Evil org. So happy there are so many activist out there that expose what really goes on in this org. My heart goes out to the couple in Colorado. I can only imagine the anguish and mental torment they went through before going over the edge. Thank you for keeping so many informed about how things really work with JW.

I'm so thankful I'm out. I used to believe it was a loving arrangement from God until it happened to me because I left an unloving, unhappy and abusive relationship.

There's now been a total breakdown in the relationship between my mother and I. She wants to shun me 80% of the time and wants me to be OK with it. The other 20% of the time when she's not shunning me because she misses me or needs something from me she wants me to be available. If I don't respond she accuses me of not having love. Total gaslighting!

@sparklecanada0112

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wolfie8012. You hit the nail on the head...Total Gaslighting.🤝 Narcissistic People, like JWs and other Cult Members, use Gaslighting and other forms of manipulation and intimidation in order to maintain control over and micromanage those they seek Ego Boosting and "Fuel" from.

@dancingnature

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Call her out on it. She’s manipulating you to continue the abusive behavior.

@allfalldown6812

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Your mother shows typical narcissist behaviours! These people are very dangerous. Please take care of yourself. 🙏🏾

@alexshatner3907

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@@dancingnature Am I aloud to contribute to the "so called" abusive behavior? ok Here is more encouragement and my deepest sympathy because Bible commands, Christians: “Quit mixing in company with anyone called a brother that is a fornicator or a greedy person or an idolater or a reviler or a drunkard or an extortion, not even eating with such a man.”-1 Corinthians 5:11. Is this Bible law harsh and demeaning? Just consider this: When a hardened criminal is sent to prison for breaking the law, is that viewed as harsh or coldhearted? No, because the public has the right to safeguard the peace and security of the community. In effect, the criminal is disfellowshipped from law-abiding society during his prison term. Similarly, the Christian congregation is justified in expelling unrepentant wrongdoers from their midst. Why? Because the congregation must be a haven from immoral predators and other willful practices of sin. Realizing that “one sinner can destroy much good,” the apostle Paul commanded fellow believers: “Remove the wicked man from among yourselves.” (Ecclesiastes 9:18; 1 Corinthians 5:13) This action prevents the sinner from spreading corruption in the congregation, and it protects the congregation’s good name.-Compare 1 Timothy 3:15.

@alexshatner3907

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@@allfalldown6812 Apostates like you claim to worship Jehovah and to believe the Bible, but you reject the visible part of his organization. Some even return to the God-dishonoring doctrines of “Babylon the Great,” the world empire of false religion. (Revelation 17:5; 2 Peter 2:19-22) Under divine inspiration, the Bible writers used strong words to expose the motives and the methods of apostates. What is it that apostates want? Most are not content to leave the faith that they once perhaps viewed as true. Often, they want to take others with them. Rather than going out and making their own disciples, many apostates seek to “draw away the disciples [that is, Christ’s disciples] after themselves.” (Acts 20:29, 30) Regarding false teachers, the apostle Paul sounded this urgent warning: “Look out: perhaps there may be someone who will carry you off as his prey.” (Colossians 2:8) Does that not describe what many apostates try to do? Like a kidnapper who carries an unsuspecting victim away from his family, you apostates prey upon trusting members of the congregation, seeking to carry them away from the flock. During this final part of the last days, it is to be expected that Satan will continue to launch an avalanche of lies and deceptions. Thankfully, Jehovah has not left us in the dark regarding Satan’s deceptive tactics. The Bible and the Bible-based publications of “the faithful and discreet slave” clearly expose the Devil’s evil methods. (Matthew 24:45) Being forewarned, we are forearmed.-2 Corinthians 2:11. (1 John 2:19) They went out from us, but they were not of our sort; for if they had been of our sort, they would have remained with us. But they went out so that it might be shown that not all are of our sort.

I enjoy listening to you guys. I was introduced to the jws in 1987 and I thought without a doubt that it was the truth. I had a subscription to the bi monthly Awake and Watchtower and would devour them when they came in the mail. I started drifting away when I was reading the revelation book and just couldn't wrap my head around it. That was in 1991 and sometimes I still miss the feeling of thinking it was the truth. I never got baptized and was an unbaptized publisher. I still miss it for some reason but I know it's not true.

@josephd27

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I was in similar shoes, I was never baptized in there cult thank goodness from the almighty God I left

@rdhawk929

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Good for you for making the informed decision to leave because you came to realize it was NOT true. I used to miss it too because what they promise is so powerful and wonderful, yet it is founded on falsehoods and a lot of wishful thinking. But its good when you find out how to make your own wonderful and peaceful life, and enjoy it :) Here's to you my friend🍹

@paulconcadora9395

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With that said, is it a half of the truth is better than a whole lie, Jesus said those who believe in him are able to get to his father God who is in heaven, that man is the most recognized man in the whole world and especially on Christmas day, which is for living, not a day of dying, for shunning,,, sad sad sad,

@alexshatner3907

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The Bible commands Christians: “Quit mixing in company with anyone called a brother that is a fornicator or a greedy person or an idolater or a reviler or a drunkard or an extortioner, not even eating with such a man.”-1 Corinthians 5:11. Is this Bible law harsh and demeaning? Just consider this: When a hardened criminal is sent to prison for breaking the law, is that viewed as harsh or coldhearted? No, because the public has the right to safeguard the peace and security of the community. In effect, the criminal is disfellowshipped from law-abiding society during his prison term. Similarly, the Christian congregation is justified in expelling unrepentant wrongdoers from their midst. Why? Because the congregation must be a haven from immoral predators and other willful practicers of sin. Realizing that “one sinner can destroy much good,” the apostle Paul commanded fellow believers: “Remove the wicked man from among yourselves.” (Ecclesiastes 9:18; 1 Corinthians 5:13) This action prevents the sinner from spreading corruption in the congregation, and it protects the congregation’s good name.-Compare 1 Timothy 3:15.

@brucewebb1114

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Oh Alex, Alex why are you visiting this "apostate site". Maybe I should report you to your elders lol. You know you could be shunned as well lol.

Thank you for this. It is so important for the masses to know how HORRIBLE JW policies are and the damage they do to people and families. They hide behind the notion that they “love” - they do not. I hope and pray that one day they are completely exposed and dismantled. These videos help!! I appreciate y’all so much. 🫶🏽✨🏆🙏🏽

@ExJWCriticalThinker

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After 7 years of fulltime service i had a judicial meeting where if it werent for one charismatic elder being my very close friend i went in there knowing i was going to be DF'd and the other two elders wanted to DF me, but my elder friend persuaded them not too i realized god had nothing to do with the elders decisions then i started doing outside research. I wasn't afraid of the JW Jehovah anymore.

Excellent breakdown. I remember as a child seeing the disfellowshipped ones still coming to meetings but looking woefully depressed and humiliated at times. While all of the "friends" walked and talked around them as if they didn't exist. It had such an impact on me that when I decided that I had enough of the organization, I disassociated myself. I wasn't about to give them the satisfaction of shunning me.

@nervotica7991

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I understand completely! A lot of people treat toxic families in EXACTLY the same way. Leave before the can seriously hurt you!

@alexshatner3907

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Here is more break down for you The Bible commands, Christians: “Quit mixing in company with anyone called a brother that is a fornicator or a greedy person or an idolater or a reviler or a drunkard or an extortion, not even eating with such a man.”-1 Corinthians 5:11. Is this Bible law harsh and demeaning? Just consider this: When a hardened criminal is sent to prison for breaking the law, is that viewed as harsh or coldhearted? No, because the public has the right to safeguard the peace and security of the community. In effect, the criminal is disfellowshipped from law-abiding society during his prison term. Similarly, the Christian congregation is justified in expelling unrepentant wrongdoers from their midst. Why? Because the congregation must be a haven from immoral predators and other willful practices of sin. Realizing that “one sinner can destroy much good,” the apostle Paul commanded fellow believers: “Remove the wicked man from among yourselves.” (Ecclesiastes 9:18; 1 Corinthians 5:13) This action prevents the sinner from spreading corruption in the congregation, and it protects the congregation’s good name.-Compare 1 Timothy 3:15. ,

@KariIsSoVery

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@@alexshatner3907 So is the society is allowing y'all to count internet trolling as time now? lol!

@alexshatner3907

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@@KariIsSoVery You got that wrong Old lady, I am not a JW yet, but hope to be soon, but in the mean time I am a graduate from the University of Oxford United Kingdom, ranking # 1 in the world as we stand, and I have a masters degree, and Professor in Theology, Divinity & Religious Studies for over 30 years, also to include to include a scholarship in the Traditional Greek( KOINE) language in which Paul spoke and understood. And whether you or your fellow apostate brothers like it or not I have found that Jehovah's witnesses through an in-depth research is the only true religion( Efe 4:5) only one true faith exist not many, And what apostates don't understand is that" JEHOVAH'S ORGANIZATION AIN'T GOING NO WHERE'" he created the earth to be eventually inhabited forever in a paradise like setting,,, You mortals do not have the capability of eradicating, annihilating, or extinguishing Jehovah's organization's existence, and Jehovah is not about to fill the earth with wicked evil mocking adversaries, nor have them ruling with Christ Jesus in Heaven. The organization is going to continue with us or without us, I know apostates are wishful thinkers saying that the organization is going down, that people are leaving, but Satan and his demons already know that Jehovah's Organization is here to stay, but just as he fooled Eve, you people fell for the same trap. You make demons and Satan very pleased. They sit back in the spiritual realm and just grin and laugh with joy, at your temporary accomplishments.

@KariIsSoVery

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@@alexshatner3907 Old lady? lol! How JW of you. Evil to the very core. BTW, I didn't bother to read anything you wrote past your lame attempt at an insult.. Nothing else you have to say is worth reading. ✌🏽

We must NOT shunned disfellowship brothers and sisters. 2 THESSALONIANS 3:14-15.

@alexshatner3907

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The Bible commands Christians: “Quit mixing in company with anyone called a brother that is a fornicator or a greedy person or an idolater or a reviler or a drunkard or an extortioner, not even eating with such a man.”-1 Corinthians 5:11. Is this Bible law harsh and demeaning? Just consider this: When a hardened criminal is sent to prison for breaking the law, is that viewed as harsh or coldhearted? No, because the public has the right to safeguard the peace and security of the community. In effect, the criminal is disfellowshipped from law-abiding society during his prison term. Similarly, the Christian congregation is justified in expelling unrepentant wrongdoers from their midst. Why? Because the congregation must be a haven from immoral predators and other willful practicers of sin. Realizing that “one sinner can destroy much good,” the apostle Paul commanded fellow believers: “Remove the wicked man from among yourselves.” (Ecclesiastes 9:18; 1 Corinthians 5:13) This action prevents the sinner from spreading corruption in the congregation, and it protects the congregation’s good name.-Compare 1 Timothy 3:15.

@alexshatner3907

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Here is more encouragement The Bible commands, Christians: “Quit mixing in company with anyone called a brother that is a fornicator or a greedy person or an idolater or a reviler or a drunkard or an extortion, not even eating with such a man.”-1 Corinthians 5:11. Is this Bible law harsh and demeaning? Just consider this: When a hardened criminal is sent to prison for breaking the law, is that viewed as harsh or coldhearted? No, because the public has the right to safeguard the peace and security of the community. In effect, the criminal is disfellowshipped from law-abiding society during his prison term. Similarly, the Christian congregation is justified in expelling unrepentant wrongdoers from their midst. Why? Because the congregation must be a haven from immoral predators and other willful practices of sin. Realizing that “one sinner can destroy much good,” the apostle Paul commanded fellow believers: “Remove the wicked man from among yourselves.” (Ecclesiastes 9:18; 1 Corinthians 5:13) This action prevents the sinner from spreading corruption in the congregation, and it protects the congregation’s good name.-Compare 1 Timothy 3:15.

Thank you Lady Cee and JT for educating the public as to how harmful this group really is. Yes, JWs/WT does have a private and a public persona.

@alexshatner3907

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Yes thanks let me educate you more, Bible commands, Christians: “Quit mixing in company with anyone called a brother that is a fornicator or a greedy person or an idolater or a reviler or a drunkard or an extortion, not even eating with such a man.”-1 Corinthians 5:11. Is this Bible law harsh and demeaning? Just consider this: When a hardened criminal is sent to prison for breaking the law, is that viewed as harsh or coldhearted? No, because the public has the right to safeguard the peace and security of the community. In effect, the criminal is disfellowshipped from law-abiding society during his prison term. Similarly, the Christian congregation is justified in expelling unrepentant wrongdoers from their midst. Why? Because the congregation must be a haven from immoral predators and other willful practices of sin. Realizing that “one sinner can destroy much good,” the apostle Paul commanded fellow believers: “Remove the wicked man from among yourselves.” (Ecclesiastes 9:18; 1 Corinthians 5:13) This action prevents the sinner from spreading corruption in the congregation, and it protects the congregation’s good name.-Compare 1 Timothy 3:15.

I recently made a video about shunning and in my preparation I looked up the publications that I studied before being baptised back in 1990. They were the "Paradise Earth" book and the "Worship the Only True God". There were only two sentences about disfellowshipping in the first book. That's all!! We were made to believe that disfellowshipping was very rare, was applied only to those unrepentantly committing gross and immoral wrongdoing, and almost always resulted in them returning to the congregation!! None of that is true! We most certainly did not have full disclosure about disfellowshipping, disassociation, and shunning, when we dedicated ourselves to the organisation. Unbelievably, the GB leadership saw it fitting to include that horrendous shunning video from the 2016 Convention in the new interactive Bible Study!!!! It's in chapter 57, I think. As I said, UNBELIEVABLE!!!

@ExJWCriticalThinker

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Yep there is no chapter for a 9 yr old bible student or a 90 yr old bible student that explains How this will JACK UP YOIR LIFE

@Tanaeaa

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last convention i attended

@victoriagolmehdi8506

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I was baptised in Bristol (UK) in 1990 (Feb). I remember those books and agree that I was certainly never warned that I would lose all my associates if I chose to leave, never mind committed a 'gross' sin etc. Those who remain must watch the videos and wonder about how much the 'spiritual 'food they are being force fed has been dumbed down. I would have cognitive dissonance as a result of the constant requests for money. I walked past two witnesses at their cart last week. Neither wanted to make eye contact with passersby and they looked bored and disinterested in having any conversation with potential 'studies'. I am interested to see the latest figures and how they are going to spin them. Most studies are with their own children and in countries where the internet has not made a massive difference yet. In a few years they are going to be entirely on line and no different from any other money grabbing evangelical outfit.

@alexshatner3907

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Yea I recently did a video too on why the Bible commands, Christians: “Quit mixing in company with anyone called a brother that is a fornicator or a greedy person or an idolater or a reviler or a drunkard or an extortion, not even eating with such a man.”-1 Corinthians 5:11. Is this Bible law harsh and demeaning? Just consider this: When a hardened criminal is sent to prison for breaking the law, is that viewed as harsh or coldhearted? No, because the public has the right to safeguard the peace and security of the community. In effect, the criminal is disfellowshipped from law-abiding society during his prison term. Similarly, the Christian congregation is justified in expelling unrepentant wrongdoers from their midst. Why? Because the congregation must be a haven from immoral predators and other willful practices of sin. Realizing that “one sinner can destroy much good,” the apostle Paul commanded fellow believers: “Remove the wicked man from among yourselves.” (Ecclesiastes 9:18; 1 Corinthians 5:13) This action prevents the sinner from spreading corruption in the congregation, and it protects the congregation’s good name.-Compare 1 Timothy 3:15.

@Rupunzelsawake

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@Alex Shatner What a load of nonsense. How can you possibly compare those who are disfellowshipped, or who disassociate, to dangerous "hardened criminals "? Surely you must realize that you can be disfellowshipped , not only from the congregation, but from your family, for a whole raft of minor infractions, not mentioned in the scripture you quoted. In fact, most JWs shun solely on the say-so of the elder making the announcement at the kingdom hall, having no idea whasoever what wrongdiing they committed. How unfair! There is no opportunity to defend yourself before your friends and family. That alone is unscriptural, unjust, unloving and unchristian. Most jws I know haven't been disfellowshipped for those reasons either. In my case it was because I sought help from elders because I had been stumbled by the governing body, not because I was a dangerous contaminating influence on the congregation. What elders in the judicial committee most care about is whether you still believe that God is using the governing body as his sole channel. Show me that in the bible. It's not there.

The fact is, you can't leave, you will be shunned, and if you do leave, you will be shunned. Thank you for your encouragement.

@alexshatner3907

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Here is more encouragement for you Bible commands, Christians: “Quit mixing in company with anyone called a brother that is a fornicator or a greedy person or an idolater or a reviler or a drunkard or an extortion, not even eating with such a man.”-1 Corinthians 5:11. Is this Bible law harsh and demeaning? Just consider this: When a hardened criminal is sent to prison for breaking the law, is that viewed as harsh or coldhearted? No, because the public has the right to safeguard the peace and security of the community. In effect, the criminal is disfellowshipped from law-abiding society during his prison term. Similarly, the Christian congregation is justified in expelling unrepentant wrongdoers from their midst. Why? Because the congregation must be a haven from immoral predators and other willful practices of sin. Realizing that “one sinner can destroy much good,” the apostle Paul commanded fellow believers: “Remove the wicked man from among yourselves.” (Ecclesiastes 9:18; 1 Corinthians 5:13) This action prevents the sinner from spreading corruption in the congregation, and it protects the congregation’s good name.-Compare 1 Timothy 3:15.

@richardgallagher650

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@@alexshatner3907 Too bad they don't expel pedophile's, but a child can't come up with two witnesses...

@alexshatner3907

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@@richardgallagher650 Too bad you are not serving Jehovah, what a cheap excuse to not be a servant like at one time were, you should be more worried about your own salvation, and stop using this as a cheap excuse to leave Jehovah. Elders do not have control over what people do behind closed doors, and are not the police of the congregations . Victims have MOUTHS AND STRONG LUNGS, use them , SPEAK UP. It is against the law for elders to give legal advice, or take legal action against someone, or make calls to the police, Elders are not about to get involved in law suits by family members over sending someone to jail, also potentially exposing themselves to physical retaliations and death by non JW members, EXAMPLE:: "WHO CALLED THE POLICE ON MY UNCLE?" OH UH, AN ELDER FROM THE CONGRREGATION by the name of john doe" "Well he's going to have to deal with me now" people do not get padded down on entry to any Kingdom Hall for guns and, or any other sort of weapons. Victims, and or relatives have the responsibility to call the police, and should do that themselves. Just as, it's not the job of a Catholic priest or Baptists pastor to call the police when a gang member is in their church.

excellent information brought out in this video. Disfellowshipping was always a thorn in my side, feeling the pain it can give to either side. I look forward to see more on this subject as you continue to educate people on this matter.

@ExJWCriticalThinker

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Thz

@alexshatner3907

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The Bible commands Christians: “Quit mixing in company with anyone called a brother that is a fornicator or a greedy person or an idolater or a reviler or a drunkard or an extortioner, not even eating with such a man.”-1 Corinthians 5:11. Is this Bible law harsh and demeaning? Just consider this: When a hardened criminal is sent to prison for breaking the law, is that viewed as harsh or coldhearted? No, because the public has the right to safeguard the peace and security of the community. In effect, the criminal is disfellowshipped from law-abiding society during his prison term. Similarly, the Christian congregation is justified in expelling unrepentant wrongdoers from their midst. Why? Because the congregation must be a haven from immoral predators and other willful practicers of sin. Realizing that “one sinner can destroy much good,” the apostle Paul commanded fellow believers: “Remove the wicked man from among yourselves.” (Ecclesiastes 9:18; 1 Corinthians 5:13) This action prevents the sinner from spreading corruption in the congregation, and it protects the congregation’s good name.-Compare 1 Timothy 3:15.

Thank you for covering this topic. I was the youngest elder at my ( then ) congratulation and we had a elders meeting at an assembly hall and the topic was basically about mental health in general. From there I learned that JWs didn't really take mental health seriously because a question was asked, "if someone with multiple personalities committed a unrepentant sin". Where one personality was repentant and one was not..the oversee-er answered : then both of them would be disfellowshipped, and the whole body erupted in laughter...now at the time one of my best friends in the congregation and in general actually had similar mental health issues so I was sensitive to the subject. Non the less, I never thought shunning anyone was ever a good idea, and I always spoke to everyone disfellowship or not...my mom was the same way.. now rather or not they spoke back because of fear THEY would get in " trouble " is a different story. Anyways, this is a tragic situation. And I'm praying for all parties affected by this tragedy..sounds like it could have been much worse. Sounds like he was trying to take out the whole congregation

I have a friend that is shining me, because he didn't like what I was saying about the Kingdom Hall. This is not a loving arrangement. It is a sick arrangement. Being disfellowship is not loving at all. This is for control. Please, leave this organization as soon as possible, and baby, you will be set free.

Tanx for this educative Video. As an ex Elder, all what you said are 100% the Truth. JF, Germany

@madamecurious

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Wie gut zu erfahren, daß ein Ältester in Deutschland “aufgewacht” ist. Ich lebe in Florida USA. Keiner von meinen JZ Freunden in Germany hat je die Organisation verlassen, es ist erstaunlich! Danke für dein comment hier!! Ich freue mich für dich, daß du nun echte Freiheit gefunden hast :)

Pentecostal holiness is a version of Jehovah's witnesses that I grew up in and the shunning was different. They just dogged you 🤨Either way its full of hopeless hope

@sherylalismom285

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Good info! TY

@SuperFoodParents

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@@sherylalismom285 LOL it's good info on a bad situation

Great to see content from you again! As usual, excellent video. It's a shame how WT only cares about the 'org' but totally disregards the 'JWs' who keep them afloat.

You are right Lady C. They hold us in emotional blackmail.

Left 3yrs ago and am still healing. But I agree I nor anyone in my family ever felt close to anyone there. The ones born in it didn't really seem to like each other that much either.

So sad. I pray and hope more people wake up. This getting dangerous. There needs to be more laws put in place for this religion or disband it for good. It’s amazing how it still got ahold on people. Some just can’t let it go. Very sad.

@alexshatner3907

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The Bible commands Christians: “Quit mixing in company with anyone called a brother that is a fornicator or a greedy person or an idolater or a reviler or a drunkard or an extortioner, not even eating with such a man.”-1 Corinthians 5:11. Is this Bible law harsh and demeaning? Just consider this: When a hardened criminal is sent to prison for breaking the law, is that viewed as harsh or coldhearted? No, because the public has the right to safeguard the peace and security of the community. In effect, the criminal is disfellowshipped from law-abiding society during his prison term. Similarly, the Christian congregation is justified in expelling unrepentant wrongdoers from their midst. Why? Because the congregation must be a haven from immoral predators and other willful practicers of sin. Realizing that “one sinner can destroy much good,” the apostle Paul commanded fellow believers: “Remove the wicked man from among yourselves.” (Ecclesiastes 9:18; 1 Corinthians 5:13) This action prevents the sinner from spreading corruption in the congregation, and it protects the congregation’s good name.-Compare 1 Timothy 3:15.

How weak are your beliefs if you're commanded to avoid and shun people who challenge them? Beyond this practice being cruel, it's cowardly and a clear sign that the beliefs the Watchtower expose are as brittle as rice paper - incapable of surviving any scrutiny.

The thing is, if these were disfellowshipped or disassociated, the org says they will die at armageddon and yet they dare to say she was an innocent victim when that is certainly not how she would have been portrayed by the congregation. Such a sad situation.

Thank you beautiful family. Keeping it real..

JT and Lady Cee….. What really amazes me is that after you fled from this cult many, many years ago, you two are still aiding others to get out of this false religion. That is agapè love at its finest!!!

Thank you for keeping this information real on the information that need to be put out there .. a lot of people don’t understand what they are getting there self into especially in the beginning.I have been a exjw about 25 years now and counting 👍

I know I didn't know what shunning was back then.. But I regret getting baptized so much. I'm still trying to safely get my own place and leave in peace. I have much love for my family, but it's either I waste my life on a Doomsday Cult to make my family happy or I leave and rebuild my future for myself and please someone who shows love unconditionally. My parents show love with condition that I keep being a JW.

Back in the day, Charles Taze Russel wrote an article showing that excommunication (disfellowshipping) was unscriptural.

This is so sad what gives these people the right to decide who a person accepts as a family 👪 and who they dont

The biggest cult ever....

I know personally 4 individuals who have committed suicide due to this practice.

Fortunately, for me, none of my family members were Jehovah’s Witnesses when I decided to leave them.

I really enjoy your work JT & Lady Cee..... shunning is a powerful weapon in WT's dark toolbox. I've called kids who were df'd years ago to apologize but some damage can't be repaired. I've known two young people who died tragically by there own design and although it's impossible to know what they were thinking, I'm convinced the common factor is WT.

I also wonder if this shunning practice will lead to violence in kingdom halls. People no longer need a good reason to shoot up any place. And we have seen this in other churches in America.

Thank. Continue to expose how evil Watchtower is!! Love from Philippines

Good to see your back

Thanks you two. Please do keep us afloat if anything new with this particular incident surfaces. I appreciate your thoughts and input. It would be awesome if you guys did an ‘episode’ on the ‘society’ and suicide/suicidal rates with some specific cases and those affected. I know you guys touch on it often, but to listen to it broken down would be great.

@alexshatner3907

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Here is something to keep afloat too The Bible commands, Christians: “Quit mixing in company with anyone called a brother that is a fornicator or a greedy person or an idolater or a reviler or a drunkard or an extortion, not even eating with such a man.”-1 Corinthians 5:11. Is this Bible law harsh and demeaning? Just consider this: When a hardened criminal is sent to prison for breaking the law, is that viewed as harsh or coldhearted? No, because the public has the right to safeguard the peace and security of the community. In effect, the criminal is disfellowshipped from law-abiding society during his prison term. Similarly, the Christian congregation is justified in expelling unrepentant wrongdoers from their midst. Why? Because the congregation must be a haven from immoral predators and other willful practices of sin. Realizing that “one sinner can destroy much good,” the apostle Paul commanded fellow believers: “Remove the wicked man from among yourselves.” (Ecclesiastes 9:18; 1 Corinthians 5:13) This action prevents the sinner from spreading corruption in the congregation, and it protects the congregation’s good name.-Compare 1 Timothy 3:15.