How cursed was this origin for you?

@FireBurn256

Жыл бұрын

Based

@imadnemeir9455

Жыл бұрын

Very cursed, my first play through I was playing a communist expansionist empire, ended up at the edge of the Galaxy with an advanced neighbor blocking my only hyper lane to the rest of the Galaxy. Had to go with the habitat option since I couldn't bring economy to the level of owning a battleship. Was able to vassalize my neighbors though and am in the process of balkanizing my previous oppressors through sheer diplomatic dominance of it la neighbors. This was the funnest campaign I had in a while

@tylergee1405

Жыл бұрын

Pretty cursed. They declared war on me on the opposite side of the galaxy. Didn't't have the payback war goal. Tried to vassalize instead, didn't know it was all or nothing. Got rid of all of their stuff and ended up a stalemate because I missed 2 systems. Another empire who vassalized half of the galaxy, vassalized them because I had to wait. Been figuring out how to fight them without getting wrecked by the overlord and other subjects. My empire is hell-bent on revenge.

@SlayXemnas

Жыл бұрын

I was in a total war with MSI which was on the other side of the galaxy with nothing but closed borders. I had to vasalize half the galaxy to even reach MSI and they were in war with another empire which made it impossible for me to occupy every system. I had to wait for the other war of MSI to end to occupy the last 4 systems.

@4178Charlie

Жыл бұрын

On xbox don't have it yet

The Prikki actually destroying another empire? Surprising. They must have been buffed

@RobBCactive

Жыл бұрын

It happened in my recent run, the empire involved seemed to be an advanced start too! Basically they neglected to prioritise building fleet after ending another war, the Prikkiki Ti had an easy run at their homeworld and hamstrung the economy.

@CS_Mango

Жыл бұрын

When I started out (pre nemisis) they actually managed to get like 1/5th of the galaxy.

@agamemnonofmycenae5258

Жыл бұрын

Depends when these lizards get released.

@fieldy409

Жыл бұрын

They are always the same strength when released so if it's early enough they can be terrifying.

@OnlineKenji

Жыл бұрын

Hah! Had a game recently on small map where the piki had half the galaxy by the time the galactic community was formed. I was stunned!😮

Reminds me of my first game of Payback, MSI got destroyed for settling a holy world, settled it again, destroyed again. Then in the 3rd war they declared war on me via event... Whilst fully occupied and with no fleet

@StarboyXL9

Жыл бұрын

Gotta love it when the official dev content is as buggy as a player mod lol

@marsar1775

Жыл бұрын

galaxy brain movez

@plantoloz3931

Жыл бұрын

Had Msi honeworld spawn at border of xenophobe fallen empire. They got declared war all the time and never had any millitary

i really hope to god that they add a new empire with buildings and ships based on this habitats design, this habitat is so beautiful and opulent in its design! i love it!!

@AmariFukui

Жыл бұрын

Seconded! I love me some opulent and elegant designs, I'd have my whole empire built that way even if it means a higher maintenance cost

It's cool that the whole event chain does still work and acknowledges things like if you have allies or if MSI is already gone.

5:05. If the RNG gods smile on you, and you play your cards right, you can still get primitive worlds without firing a shot. I was playing pacifist xenophiles one time and came across primitives with a life-seeded origin and was unhappy because I really wanted that planet, but I was trying to play as a good enlightening civilization, unlike MSI. Then the Gaia world aliens came down with a plague as an event and I had three options. I choose the option to help the plague (germs are living creatures too, right? RIGHT?!), and I ended up with the Gaia world I so wanted. Of course, this game was cursed because this was before the nuclear self destruction bug was fixed, so all the other aliens I wanted to enlighten blew themselves up as soon as I did. Karmic payback for the Gaia world? 🤣

@techpriestsalok8119

Жыл бұрын

I had a similar thing except that two events happened back to back 1. Planet got hit by asteroid, sent to Stone Age, thus only had one pop 2. Got malfunctioning cybernetics, remaining pop died Boom! Free Gaia world

@neillindgren8992

Жыл бұрын

@@techpriestsalok8119 Stellaris never ceases to amaze me. The malfunctioning cybernetics is just so funny, and you got a planet out of it as well! 👍

Disclaimer: the orb is NOT hostile. Just don't ask it about Teddy.

My current payback playtrough is really weird. My only direct neighbor is MSI. In the other direction everything is clear and I've found literally 4 gaia worlds. Honestly about a third of the habitable worlds I've found so far are gaia worlds plus the relic world from the rubricator, so my late game is set... As for the uber lategame, an empire right next to MSI (but I'd have to get through MSI to get there) has a ruined science nexus and a ruined matter decompressor. If MSI wasn't there, this would literally be the dream start.

@myronantiquiera4116

Жыл бұрын

I get the exact opposite luck, usually MSI spawns like an empire or 2 away from me and vassalizes every empire and becomes an unstoppable superpower

10:03 I got this sabe problem. Even with the technology and the gene clinics working, I became stuck with this negative modifier for the rest of the game. A very serius bug, I must say

Ep3o: Came back with experience and proper plan to defeat MSI on round 2 Game: "Lol, nope!" Procedes to Prikkiki-Ti'd the MSI

Was waiting to see this video :D Looking forward to enjoying it!

I tend to focus on vasaalisation early on, then change the subject type when I have the influence, as you can at least make sure no one else gets them

i chose revenge and destroyed them with an almost pure missile fleet (but with carrier cruisers and later battle ships) and made msi my vassal in my first run. they were damn strong, almost twice the size of my empire, a real challenge. ^^ in the second run they were destroyed by a hegemon empire, so i just had to prepare and later take them by surprise, but then they were already gone, like in your case with the pikti, but this habitat looks cool, so i'll try that too ;) i never used autocannons, but i see the ai use them a lot in my games, maybe it's worth to try an autocannon/laser fleet ?

@Ep3o

Жыл бұрын

Autocannons have a super over inflated fleet power number, but doesn’t actually represent how good they are!

@SupCom78

Жыл бұрын

@@Ep3o yeah autocannons nice for depleating shields but verrrrry bad against armor so i would combine auto cannons with laser or plasma weapons for armor for my next game. atm i play as a overengeneert empire with a sience and exploration focus i had ancient tech on my ships as the ai still used level 3 armor and weapons. but i just sit there and prepaire i got 3 vassals now they wanted to be protected one of them is a bullwark so i let the others do what they want. i got a bit unlucky and got the grey storm half of my fleets got shredded but in the end the L Cluster is now mine all Planets terraformed and i got nanites. i was also able to defeat the watchers even if i lost 90% of my xeno swarm and gene soldier army but i got that way living metal yeah. ;) i use mostly missile weapons to avoid the shields but i also use designs that suck their shields dry if i have the tech for it if not i go classic railgun/laser but always with carrier support. some ai designs make no sense for me 50% autocannons and disruptors ? a full disruptor build would make sense mebe not the most efficient design but it would make sense but mix it ? well 85000 fleet power with this build against my 55000 with missiles and well i don't lost much ships they lost 55 to 65 % bevor they retreated.

for alloys i usually trade vast amounts of strat resources to FEs

@StarboyXL9

Жыл бұрын

Oooo why didn't I think of that?

@sampfrost

Жыл бұрын

@@StarboyXL9 failure of imagination and or not regularly consuming several 100K of alloys in a single month

@StarboyXL9

Жыл бұрын

@@sampfrost *100k alloys in a single month* I'm sorry what? What kind of mods are you using?

@sampfrost

Жыл бұрын

@@StarboyXL9 ACOT and trying to get to maxed out fleet cap, because blokkats

Wow, I had heard whispers of the Autocannon thing... but ... just wow... I hope they hotfix that.

MSI: Ah, a shielded planet with life! Yet another goodie box full of prims to 'uplift' and make bank off of via debt, usery and indentured service... Uh, why do I suddenly hear Megalovania? Prikki-ti: It's a good day in the Galaxy. Birds are being cooked. Plants are being harvested. On days like this.... Xenos like you... *Invades with overwhelming fleet*

I like to play a tech empire, and this habit is stupidly broken for that. early mid game you can have it producing over 500 of each tech.

this origin is tough, not going lie. daddy msi beats me into a vassal state :(

I don't understand I put 1 of 3 my fleet(same size) that lead with my highest level admiral on patrol for my trading route but piracy not gone and I'm don't get trade value from it, did I do something wrong? and I also restricted an area but my ships keep going to that system and get destroyed by liveathans living there...

I like to think MSI thought the Prikki were a primitive civilization and got a bit too curious to remove the shield and basically ended themselves. In a way that would be more satisfying for a scientific / diplomatic species that fought them off to watch them get destroyed that their own actions.

Weird, my first payback game saw the Prikki-ti eat Minamar as well

They still haven't fixed the Gene Clinic repair bug? Last time I got this, I had to use the console to remove the crippling empire wide modifier it lands you with. Amazed they haven't sorted it sooner considering it was reported not long after release and happens every time!

Did not know the tech company "MSI" made ancient warships...

Dastardlydwarfs unfortunately do not like bananas easily the worst fruit

Best i could get was 1k research at year 40 with this, full technocracy/meritocracy.

Yeah, I'm going to have to Re-download Steam for this. All the new stuff with the updates, it's worth the minor problems I've had with Steam in the past. Especially since Paradox doesn't seem to want to update there Launcher for Stelaris anymore.

@theholypeanut8193

Жыл бұрын

Tf you mean by steam??? Why did you uninstall steam???

@ChrisTian-ed8ol

Жыл бұрын

@@theholypeanut8193 at the time it was slowing down my computer just from being installed, and I wasn't playing any games on it. And before you say "well I guess you can't play Stelaris", my computer handles a full 1k system play through just fine, on the Paradox Interactive Launcher. In the end I just find Steam to intrusive of a game launcher and figured it wasn't worth it, though now I might be forced to re-download it because of the Stelaris content I'm missing on.

@user-zc4sx9ig6p

Жыл бұрын

​@@ChrisTian-ed8ol steam barely slows me down don't lie you got a bad PC lmao

@ChrisTian-ed8ol

Жыл бұрын

@@user-zc4sx9ig6p no, I even had it repaired after the disk drive went 9 months ago. It's running fine. It is about 9 years old, but I run World of Tanks, Warships and Planes, Stellaris, Starcraft 2 and Star Trek Online fine without a problem. I've only ever had a problem with the Steam launcher.

The Prikki are always a blight in most of my games because the empire that releases them cant contain them. and MSI always seems to get wiped out before I meet them.

Will ep2nill show his head today 😂

I've heard it happen so many times and it happened in my games too. MSI gets wrecked. Do they just not get other AI bonuses or something? Or are they just not min-maxed enough to survive in a galaxy with player made empires?

@Ep3o

Жыл бұрын

I have no idea the reason, it could be because they’re quite aggressive but don’t have the facilities to back it up?

Science? WE CAN TAKE SCIENCE FROM THE COLD DEAD HANDS OF OUR ENEMIES!

I wonder what happens if you mod the game to make it last enough to fully repay

@shalax7881

Жыл бұрын

You can't. Repaying the full amount says 'these credits may not be genuine'

MSI needs a major buff. They always get rolled in the games I've played.

This origin is basically making everyone an advance start.

Any payback plot that doesn't include purging the MSI or cracking their planets feels a tad underwhelming.

I noticed at 44 seconds you have a bunch of custom made empires, do you have a list of them for people to use? Ive never actually thought about the normal AI vs custom empires? is it more fun with ones you make yourself? kzread.info/dash/bejne/moWJ2tWoZMKeZps.html

I think if I play this origin I will have my nation named ASUS. It is only appropriate.

i enjoy how buggy all the new origins are :') (sarcastic)

My first run was doing so god....until the game crashed because great khan Then each run become worse and worse

@Curly_Horse

9 ай бұрын

The Average Stellaris run experience

The battleship is absolutely useless (not really) as it CAN'T BE MERGED. You're probably better off scrapping it by the mid-game, which pisses me off to no extent.

It's annoying how you can't add more sanctions soon after another one just passed, everyone will vote no because "hey, too many sanctions in a row, even though we want to support it, we won't"

It’s not actually a fair showing of how habitat vs ship is because the empire wasn’t the same the galaxy didn’t spawn the same way and your contact order wasn’t the same. The way around no Ironman one empire set to benefit both play styles or neither and save the game at or before the choice of ship or habitat that would allow and actually show if one was stronger than the other. Now I know that’s not how you want to set up a empire nor specialized heavily for the empire’s goals but it makes comparison with them fair and equal for not so good players

@Ep3o

Жыл бұрын

I did have the idea to use the same game and save at the start and take different options. But I think the choices I make with the empire build will then effect the outcome, so I went for the funner way and made the builds tailored to the path instead! Lots of variables and no way to really test them in a perfect world!

With both of these videos out, all I can see is you, in anime form, doing that Butterfly meme. "Is this a Habitat?" "Is this a Warship?" C'mon reddit, make it happen!

I tried favor trading once, 100 years later I am the senate and some backwater one planet empire pulled out 10 favors against me, got a good laugh from me That said I'm not really a big fan of it, mostly because the AI can't actually use those favors to force you into a pact, so player favors should really be evaluated differently by the AI than AI favors

Habitat is better.