IS THE CYRUSHER RANGER EBIKE ANY GOOD?! | TESTING TORQUE PAS
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Torque PAS systems are about to become a standard on hub drive ebikes. The Cyrusher Ranger is a high end dual suspension electric fat bike with 26 inch wheels and it has torque based pedal assist. Is it any good?! I test this ebike on some off road trails!
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Magic review Andy - thanks for taking us all out and around the country side.
Great episode, love the trance again. Bikes and trance go so well
The only way to do pedal assist is a solid torque sensor. I haven't even installed a cadence or speed sensor; since my motor has torque sensing built in, it just started working out of the box and nothing else was necessary for it to work perfectly - which is difficult for a lot of systems because I only need it on one side (spinal cord damage). Being that it's continuously sampling the torque it adjusts to whatever the instantaneous torque is on the cranks at the time, so it makes it naturally adaptive to whatever I'm able to do with either leg at any moment in time.
happy to see you on ebike after a long time
@andykirby
Жыл бұрын
Huh?! I'm always on ebikes😁
I like this bike, probably as I like my fatbike. I hope the torque based bottom bracket they use isn't the same as Grins because mine was terrible and I removed it. Good tunes as always.
Nice review Andy, and some great trance stuff...I'm 67 and wouldn't be without my ADO E Bike. I use peddle assist all the time where I can, the exercise I get is very beneficial. I dare you to try peddling it with no assist...I'm guessing it would be very heavy going....The battery was epic in the review IMO...🤔😳😳😏😏🇬🇧
Looks good but seems a little pricey for what it is. Another great review from the geriatric house djay. Thanks Andy,look forward to more vids.
Great countryside over their. The last time I was in the UK, was 2009. LIke I said I enjoyed your video and review. I have a Juiced bike, (RIP current S). Absoolutely love it. Going on 5 years in August with over 18000 miles. I'd love to hace a second bike. I love the distance you can get out of the larger batteries. Mine is a 52V, 19.2 Ah battery.
I've been dying for more content on the Cyrusher Monta, Ranger and Trax. They are some of the few affordable full suspension fat ebikes but don't seem to sell like Lectrics and Aventons.
Well cool mountain bike , love the fat tyres Andy 🤟👍
Nice finish and colour. looks a nice bike.
Great review - thanks. Where is the track you used? looks great and might be worth travelling for...
I love my Cyrusher Kommodo,so far so good 👍🏻
Andy I'm surprised to see how you have setup the bikes seat. You are not even close to getting full leg extension while riding. Another question, I notice the key in the side of the battery compartment, is that necessary or did you forget to take it out before riding.
Nice bike Andy!
Superb. If only I could afford one !
To get the right grip off to add the twist throttle, there is an allen bolt in the little hole on the end of the bar that needs to be loosened first.
@andykirby
Жыл бұрын
Nice, thanks 👍🏻
Good looking machine.
The previous Cyrusher bikes have just been rebadged ShengMiLo but this looks much better, very similar to the Himiway Zebra. It’s a shame their prices are so much higher.
@Cryptorocker2000
Жыл бұрын
Im thinking of getting a cyrusher. They seem really good. right now its between the 650 or the Montta . what do you think?
@Cryptorocker2000
Жыл бұрын
O and do you think they are worth the extra money ? What I mean is that I was also thinking about the Vivi fat tire E bike. But i cant tell
Nice, impressive ebike.
GOOD WATCH ANDY GOOD TUNES
Really nice looking bike. I want to get one in new zealand, for my wife.
⚡🤙🏼 *This brand makes a lotta interestin stuff!* 🤙🏼⚡
Great review! One question though. What’s the track accompanying the 16:55 onwards segment? Shazam has given me a dozen different answers, none of which are right!
@danimayb
Жыл бұрын
He probably made the song himself, He does produce his own music.
Can't believe the tracks around all that country you have access to!
It should have the motor in the midle of the bike and not on the rear rim...that kills the motor on gravel/debris/jumps and the advantage of a rear shock! But it's a good looking ebike! also use gel inside the tires...like Flat-Out or something like that...cause tires are gonna be flat more sooner then later! ask me how i know! :)
Great review! Was their rattling, going over all that terrain? Or was it pretty solid?
@andykirby
Жыл бұрын
There was a bit and it has got a bit worse over time.
The bottom bracket looks like that because it fits either the bafang m620 or m600 mid drive. They do this stuff to use one frame for like 10 different bikes
@Fleetstreetbestone
Жыл бұрын
Anyone know how to derestrict a specialised turbo Vado 4.0 e-bike. I can’t find anything online about it
@guilbertbabcock6500
Жыл бұрын
It's a hub drive motor.
@carloschilipimmel3033
Жыл бұрын
Bafang m600 is 50% in size of a Bafang g510/m620
@stillben
Жыл бұрын
@@Fleetstreetbestone I looked into this and it involved a dongle for about 140 quid, if memory serves me
@Fleetstreetbestone
Жыл бұрын
@@stillben could you link it
Is this mod free and out of the box? Got a few k to let rip on and do like your recommendations
Better than a mid drive? Probably not. I converted a MTB into a 750w Befang mid drive powered bike and I've got 120+nm on a 55lb bike. Don't get me wrong, I'm loving what I see with that Cyrusher Ranger. It might be my next bike.
Cool
Hi Andy, I stumbled upon this video and glad I did, a mate has a similar model Cyrusher ebike, the name caught my attention. I've been on the fence about ebikes mainly because of the price's, but I do need one to help give me back the incentive to get outside again after being diagnosed with mental health issues, PTSD and depression. I believe your honest about this bikes performances, in your opinion would it suit a 60 going on 30 year old that needs to get back out into the wilderness again. I'm a UK resident.
@rickyrice7376
Жыл бұрын
Hello,not knowing the full extinct of your health issues. I've been riding an electric bike since 2016. I had a minor stroke in Dec. 2019. I'm still riding bike # 2. I just turned 65. My bike is a fat tire bike as well. I love my bike. Juiced Bike Rip Current S model. Good luck to you mate.
I want one!
Hi Andy is the cyrusher worth getting or are you better of getting the branded bikes eg trek canyon ect not sure if you have done a vid on this dilemma
Hi Mate I keep getting error 21 on my display when I’m riding. It’s usually after ragging out about for 15 minutes. Any idea how I can stop this error from happening, and how to fix it when it happens? Usually I’ll turn the bike off and leave it for a bit then it’s fine
When you go on the website it has two options 250w and 750w which did you get? If you go for a 750w do they ship it restricted?
You should try a high end ebike from someone like santa cruz,specialized,yt industries,nukeproof etc. You'll be blown away by the build quality and performance!! These are relatively cheap and built on a budget and wouldn't last long on red or black runs...or on drops or jumps. High end ebikes also have more aggressive geometry, shorter stems,wider bars,dropper posts,27.5 or 29 inch wheels,tubeless tyres and lots of ways to tune and dial in the suspension.(good ones starting at 4k and up to 12k) I ride a lapierre e-zesty 9.2 which weighs in at 20kg with the battery and motor in. If you ever get a chance ,try one. You'd really enjoy it but you'd want to keep it👍
@andykirby
Жыл бұрын
Yeah we had an 8K spesh ebike in at one point, lovely engineering but no power... too much red tape on the legal ebikes unfortunately.
@bindingcurve
Жыл бұрын
They are NOT riding trail, they are putting around "gravel" paths. The people buying these have zero interest is a blue trail, much less a black run.
@marcusneal7428
Жыл бұрын
@@bindingcurve if it was for riding gravel/ a gravel bike it wouldn't have front and rear suspension and it definitely wouldn't need a tripple crown fork!!🤫
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Hi Andy , how does it compare to a vapour?
I Lille your bike helmet, mind me asking what make/model it is?
Great looking bike, I have a fiido m21 with a torque sensor, and I love it. Seems a bit down on power though which I put down to the controller. However I don't know of any upgrades for a controller with torque sensors?
@simonbean1264
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I have the M21 with the torque sensor it's a great bike for the money.
@GT.Bugger
Жыл бұрын
@@simonbean1264 I'm wondering if it's possible to get more speed from it whilst keeping the torque sensor as its a lot of fun but I'm not sure it's possible
Tongshen mid drive motors are cheap and they have torque sensors, apparently its a more natural way of having electrical assist. I think I am going to get one of the kits and upgrade a cheap mountain bike. Have you been on a fat tire bike with front and rear motors? I think that could be a good way to have power but also not catch plods beady eye on the streets.
Hi Andy , If you have to choose, cyrushere or the Vapour what will it be ? It has almost the same pricetag.
@andykirby
Жыл бұрын
They are different bikes. This is kind of like a cross between the 5000S and the vapour. Vapour is an eMTB at heart, this is like a fat ebike motorbike kind of thing 🤣
Andy you need more stuff on your vapour ebike as I've just changed my gear to peak gear up the power to asi bac850 it's complete differently animal now try it out your vapour ebike
try the Sondors Rockstar. looks a lot like this one. they are awsome and inexpensive. i can go up 45deg. hills in power nine all day long and not even break a sweat.
@ggolecoaching
Жыл бұрын
How much can you get one for?
hi i got this bike today. but it only going 16 mph , any advise . thanks good videos
How are the erginomics as far as reach and grip feel?
That was hilarious 😂 😂😂..I would put money on it that the company who sent you that bike actually watched that footage and creased up with laughter! When you got to your mums you looked like a crime scene from Charlotte's Webb...😂😂you were wearing every splattered bug known to man! Lmao,kin tonto😂😂😂..my god and the blinking handle bars on back to front! Now that takes first place.. I can't wait for the next company to contact you and want you to review something else 😂😂 😀 the latest electric scooter 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 fabulous video, brilliant well done.
When you fitting one of your motors to one Andy?
Have you seen Cooler King Kub ebike yet?
I just received mine, indeed the pedaling assistance with the torque sensor is great, but it's such a shame that the throttle grip is clamped at 28mph (32km/h) and that it is impossible to unclamp (disconnecting the wire from the controller and modifying the speed in the settings does not change anything)
@timexironman100m
Жыл бұрын
So your say that what the chap in the video did was a waste of time and did nothing ?
@jamiesmccormick
7 ай бұрын
@@timexironman100mwhen you purchase the bike it can go 15.5 mph. When disconnecting the red wire the bike can go 28 mph.
Andy it looks a nice bike it will be prise to be onist it's not my cup of tea I'd rather keep my bike 28mph it looks as if your at the Jim on one of them pedal machine to much work out for me probably for a younger person like the colour and frame rear suspension and front good good brakes it's a well built bike
Can you review the Himiway cobra pro please Andy ?
question would you pay the price there asking or would you spend less on another bike? no rack and no fenders.
Is it possible to switch between torque and cadence assist?
10 miles @ 82% = 55 mile range at your average assistance level. I dare you to test that on an all-day trip.
Makes me miss my ebikes ...
E bikes need singers sawing machine style charger in seat, can use body
Nice bike I'm building 1000w fatbike
Very nice and should be good on wear and tear with the chain only transmitting the user input rather than the motor force. Looks really nice and there are some accessories to make it practical, if you can only have one bike, it's got to do everything. I would probably go for smaller tyres in the long run but have to admit that they do look cool.
I want a cadence sensor
tripple crown is overkill ....in my opinion ....i love this bike ..but personally i would prefer single crown ....it aint never going to ride it downhill as hard as possible to even make any proper use of double Kinda wish some these bikes would stop putting double crown forks on bike that never going to see it used right
@DriverJ-N
Жыл бұрын
Maybe they did it for weight? this thing is like 90lbs
@DriverJ-N
Жыл бұрын
I’m sure they do it for looks as well and looks sell 🤷♂️ win win
What motor is in this
I do like the Cyrusher bikes I got a Cyrusher xf650
So for full power just disconnect 1 wire ?
@andykirby
Жыл бұрын
Basically yes
@Stroke.survivor
Жыл бұрын
Thanks can’t wait to get mine👍
🤙 good work.. but please snip the ziptie on your handle bars ... it got to me sorry.. 🤣
@andykirby
Жыл бұрын
Yeah keep meaning to do that 😅
Can you give the music name at 16:55 pls ? :)
@Imp4ct34
9 ай бұрын
I have Saturation by @andy kirby
Nice looker - I likey
Do u do u sell normal made with bikes giant bike or whatever
@majordelays4909
Жыл бұрын
See his mates channel dude stuff which sells plenty of conversions
its cool but fat tyres and full suspension? the rolling resistance and weight of the fat tyres is pretty pointless. i just dont see the logic behind it.
@sheldonc7412
Жыл бұрын
Not everything's about logic
Like these bikes only bit prices especially as made in China surley some middle men making more than manufacturers i do like heavy construction but are components quality cant find what is on them ,ebikes across the range way over priced but if I was in market probably look at one of these
I bought the previous version XF800 and it is crap. The "1000w" motor is really a 500w that was defective from arrival and has been replaced for the XF900. Manufacturer will not warranty defects. Buyer Beware!
Kinda sucks, they dont ship to outside of the U.K
I bet it's a beasty price 🤣🤣
I hope you didn't lose the key you left in the lock. 👊🏻
If anyone need I can have any Lankeleisi product in week delivery 😊
Great review but please can you speak a bit more slowly?! 😄
@danimayb
Жыл бұрын
If you have problems with speech you can decrease playback speed in the settings tab on KZread videos.. Or increase if you are a fan of the chipmunks :)
@rodhunt5199
Жыл бұрын
@@danimayb thanks pal…life changing!😄
Wouldn't bother with any of these if located in the UK. Customer service is shocking. Purchased the crusher FX 800 lasted a year. For a 2k bike it's robbery and customer support is horrendous don't expect anything from them, bike shops will not touch it either
@andykirby
Жыл бұрын
Yeah the FX800 doesn't look like value for money, you could build better for cheaper, you'd struggle to build a ranger for the asking price I think.. things are getting better. If you bought any of these kind of bikes from a bikeshop they would be 1.5-2x more to cover their costs of support etc.
@Certago
Жыл бұрын
As Andy mentioned in the first minute and just dawned on me as well, this bike should be great to service. My own midmotor ebike I could not change the motor myself when it gave up but this one... If they send me a new rear wheel and instructions, no problem.
@danimayb
Жыл бұрын
It's not just crusher, It's these type of ebikes in general.. If you have electrical problems, No 'normal' bike/ebike shop will touch them! Unless you know someone, Or specific shop, That will deal with custom style bikes (As long as the bike hasn't got any proprietary components (hard to work on or replace), Then you are left in the cold and hoping nothing does go wrong.
well at the least not 8/000 US
Sorry to be a killjoy,a but unless you are on private land with the owner's permission it is illegal to derestrict the speed limiter to give more than 16 mph. In event of an accident it would take a lot of explaining and probably end up in a prosecution and a damages award. Also hand throttles are illegal even although they help immensely on a cadence actuated motor. The again sorry to be a killjoy but i just want you to be aware of the legal situation and to warn you of possible prosecution and civil litigation. You pays your money and takes your chance.
Anyone know how to derestrict a specialised turbo Vado 4.0 e-bike. I can’t find anything online about it
We purchased this Vivi 27.5” electric bike and a Tentaquil 26” electric bike for our 13 and 14 year olds. kzread.infoUgkxUiL0GnyDjP32RJdd660sP8mZk4CRLTCJ The Vivi was much easier to put together. With the Vivi, there was a video link to assist with assembly which made the process easier to follow (we did put the handlebars on upside down, but it was a quick and easy fix). With the Tentaquil, the assembly was not as simple to follow, but after we messaged the company for an assembly video, it was easier and they did respond quickly. The other major differences were that the Vivi has a grip throttle on the right handle (like a motorcycle) and the Tentaquil has a push throttle that you use your thumb to activate. The monitors were also different, so if you’re looking for something specific in terms of changing the bikes functions, pay attention to what the monitor offers. We were really impressed with the overall quality and functionality of both bikes, but if you’re looking for more power and an easier assembly, definitely go with the Vivi!
Thanks for the review. But nope. You could hear how bad that rattle is. And over time, because of the big weight, it will feel awful. And 23lbs heavier than something like a Turbo Levo, which is significantly better in quality. Spend your 2.5k on a near new quality mid-drive bike.
@andykirby
11 ай бұрын
The turbo levo is a completely different type of bike but yeah I hear you.
@lee4171
11 ай бұрын
@@andykirby Agreed, I am trying to inform those who don't know much on this subject, who don't want to be disappointed in spending 2.5k on a bike with obvious flaws.
How are the erginomics as far as reach and grip feel?