We need a head to head with the Cobra!

@douglac6861

10 күн бұрын

My Cobra pro will go 35 throttle only and I've had it to 42 downhill.

Now that several companies are doing a torque sensor on a hub drive, I am waiting for one of these smart manufactures to throw a map switch on the handlebar and you select between cadence or torque. I believe it would be very doable. Could get your work out one day, take an easy fun, ride the next.

@PapaSteve1

Жыл бұрын

Hi. I have this bike. You can still ride it very easy without much work. I have a cadence bike as well. I will take the torque sensor bike any day over the cadence sensor. It just gives you so much more control over the ride.

@rayrussell6258

Жыл бұрын

@@PapaSteve1 I am a senior citizen, looking for first time at e-bikes, for substitution of car to do errands around neighborhood when possible. Cadence seems to also be a better control of ride to me, you just don't pedal to go slower. But it will still give you top end speed by pedaling easily. On the other hand, my leg strength won't allow me to get maximum speed with a torque sensor ..... so I lose control with this Ranger ebike, torque sensor takes it away. First post above is correct, the e-bike companies should put both sensors on every bike, and give us a toggle switch. This is not a fair substitution taking away cadence for many of us. I'm not doing this for a workout. Mowing the lawn already does that for me. 😀

@southernebiking

Жыл бұрын

And I will say, this right here shows the need in the market for such a switch. Different people have different needs. I believe a lot of people would pay a little bit more to have the choice on their own bike. I also believe as a manufacturer, it could be done profitably. It would not cost as much to implement as the market would pay for it. But the two responses here show it could be very viable.

@brennerborec3422

Жыл бұрын

I love that more ebikes are including torque sensors in general. This is huge! Never rode a bike with multiple systems but Id love to see this integrated.

@paulmryglod4802

Жыл бұрын

Awesome idea

Looks like a sweet bike. The lock out feature is for when you want to stand up and pump your legs up a hill and don't want some of that energy absorbed by the suspension, and then when you are at the top of the hill, you unlock it and have suspension again. Some higher end mountain bikes even have a remote leaver that mounts on the handle bars so you don't have to reach down and do that. Don't see the need for a lock out on an ebike, but that is what it is used for. Super love your content keep it up!!

Its a good looking bike. For the price I would like to have seen a front fender and integrated rear light. But it looks like it would be a fun ride.

@ryandoe11

Жыл бұрын

seriously, still no rear light and fenders! but you can at least add fenders on their site for extra.

Great review my friend 👍 one of the best reviews so far, very in depth and precise, thanks 👍 these Rangers have had a big impact here in the UK as a few reviewers have spoken very highly of them, a bit steep on the price, but for what you get with the spec it’s a no brainer if you want an all rounder off roader 👍 I have heard that the tyres slow the bike down on road and some have changed to tarmac tyres 🤷‍♂️ thanks for sharing 👏

I like their Step-thru version called the Trax, it looks like the same bike but step-thru. I am getting old and have a bad knee that's why I like the Step-thru!

Great review on the Ranger , looks like a great bike , price is a little high , but you get a good value for that bike , you do best reviews in my opinion.

@PapaSteve1

Жыл бұрын

I have this bike and 2 other e-bikes with with a cadence sensor and one with torque sensor. The ranger is so worth the money. I never ride the other 2 bikes now.

Best review I have seen on this bike can’t wait to get mine👍

How would you compare that bike with the Himiway Cobra? Both are similar, fat tires, torque sensors, full suspension, 750w motors... wondering if the 400 extra bucks for the Ranger is worth it.

What i like is the compact half twist throttle that works with the trigger shifters on the right side on my bike they use a thumb throttle on the left side .Standard size throttle seems to big

Seems like a great choice for a 6'7" guy. I think it'll be this one or the Himiway Cobra or Cobra Pro. Great review!

One question, is the throttle useful in any way ? i'd love an ebike that does both well, tho id use it more as a normal ebike ( assisted) but id love to get some use of the thrttole, whats ur opinion ? or other bike reccomendations under 4k $ that also have a good thrttole ?

Once again, a super review from the master himself except no mention of torque?

Another great review Brian. I wonder why so many mfgs are limiting the speed on throttle. To me that is a real turn off unless it can be programmed to provide full power and speed.

Outstanding review. Great information.

@CitizenCycle925

5 ай бұрын

Glad you liked it!

Forget using the hacksaw I always use pipe cutters it's easier.😊

It's really nice. It's going to be interesting to see what mirror you can fit on it.

For anyone who is curious, P7 setting is for the auto-off timer.

@MetalFreaken007

Жыл бұрын

whats auto off timer means ?

@Lopez_67

Жыл бұрын

@@MetalFreaken007 the display automatically powers off after a few minutes

@MetalFreaken007

Жыл бұрын

@@Lopez_67 thank you

Rear suspension locks are common among the "real" mountain bike industry. Suspension when you need it, lockout when speed takes preference over comfort. Race bike format which trickles down to the consumer level.

There was a good list of reasons I would pass. I wouldn't want to be beta tester for the front wheel attachment being #1 I mean it may be totally safe but if not I'd rather other people find that out first hand than me. The second but not only reason is if they are cheaping out by not including so much as plastic fenders then I don't want to find out where else they are trying to make a bit of extra money. This is just my opinion and everyone is totally free to disagree with me.

Received Ranger rack Extremely heavy duty ultra lite must be magnesium , Ranger fenders are aluminum and of sport length , too short for cross country duty . citizen do you know of any High Performance mods or larger controllers ?

Cracking review, thank you.

You need to lock the rear suspension when you peddle uphill to avoid movement up and down

Rear suspension lock-out is for traction control with hill climbing. Peace, Mo

Changing the program speed settings allows 30mph with manual throttle only on my bike.

I swapped out my throttle on my Cyrusher for a different grip and the ability to mount bar end mirrors.

@paulketchum6819

Жыл бұрын

Hi Spacenut58. I asked the same question about the bar end mirrors. Please tell me the grips you got to accommodate these mirrors. Thanks!

@spacenut58

Жыл бұрын

@@paulketchum6819 Most any grip will work once you remove the insert Cyrusher uses for the throttle. I bought some of the palm support type on amazon.

@paulketchum6819

Жыл бұрын

@@spacenut58 Thanks!

Man that's an awesome looking bike.

looks nice, however the price isn't attractive for what you get. Very nice review.

Rear suspension locks provide more power transfer and better handling on the right surfaces.

Fantastic detailed review! So good I went out and bought a Ranger too and love it! May I ask what cycle helmet you use as it looks so mean and awesome? Thankyou again!

@CitizenCycle925

Жыл бұрын

i wear a Turboske helmet, i just like the look. its definitely hot in the summer though, its a ski helmet with lots of padding

You'd have change out the handle bar grips if you want bar end mirrors. What's your recommendation on other handle bar grips which will accommodate the bar end mirrors? I want to purchase Mrs.K the 20" Cyrusher Ovia which have the same grips as the Ranger. Thanks Mr.Citizen!

Menu setting P7 is display screen timeout in minutes.

Merci pour cet excellent tuto !

Mirrors go under the handlebar on the tapered part.

Fantastic review!!! I ordered one as well. Hey @CitizenCycle I have a question, I just bought the Ranger, it arrived yesterday and I took it for a ride. I really like it minus one issue. Perhaps it's my own ignorance but when I twist the throttle while pedaling, the motor quits providing power. Is that Normal, did you experience that? My other ebike does NOT behave that way. it gives me a boost to get up a hill or quick boost of speed for whatever reason, even just to get started from a standstill...

My 52 tooth with the 11-34 tooth works great. I can climb walls in 1st gear with the Kepler 😁

Hello Sr, thank you for that. Can you please tell me your personal choice between the Ranger vs the Cobra, please?

How easy is the torque sencor pedal force is like uphill a d flat ground

A great video. I bought the e bike. Do you also have the following problems? The headlight on/off is not shown in the display? But when dimming the display Headlight Icon is shown but no Headlight is on?

great video . how do derestrict speed on this bike. thanks

Cyrusher nitro will be your next review😊

How does this bike compare to the wired freedom?

Would a KD718 Color LCD Display be better or worse? Would it remove the throttle limit?

Can you put the mirrors on the top tubes of the crown? I have been doing a lot of research lately and your my go to channel for e-bike info. We are about the same size so your tests are really good for me. I don't own a e-bike yet. Part of me wants the road warrior and part of me really wants your citizen 4.0!

How would u compare the ranger to the cobra. Same or better on bike level? Would be very helpfull.

Could you put a rear fender on this bike ?

Do you think the ranger could take the same mod as your citizen 4.0. God I love that mod you did. Cures range anxiety and to be able to run the motors independently or both is just awesome. Just got back from the link and almost pulled the trigger. I was looking at the warrior but its not full suspension. Moding the ranger later may cost me more but in the end I hope to have the bike I really want.

If you had a choice between this bike or the Himiway Cobra, which one would you buy and why? ( I'm looking at both atm, and can't make up my mind) Thanks. Great review!

@tonysmith5507

Жыл бұрын

Cyrusher Ranger , paint is sooo much better. Weight is 74 lbs 1 pound heavier than the Aventon Aventure.

@gogglespisano8631

Жыл бұрын

@@tonysmith5507 the hill climb eliminated this cyrusher for me

@caeciliusmetellus3038

Жыл бұрын

Which one you took and why? I have the same decision to do

Rear rack and lighting should come standard. Someone who wants to lighten the bike can remove it, but I think more people than not will be using this for short errands, and bringing home groceries, etc. Need rack and storage for that. Aventon / Aventure2 has moved that way with their ebike, at a better price.

For the money there much cheaper more powerful bikes out there. With fenders included and better paint job, as your other reviews. Not a great hill climber on this bike. If it doesn’t climb hills I would never consider it. Thanks for the great review.

That's a nice looking bike

I keep thinking the Wired Freedom rear shock is nowhere near as good as the Cyrusher rear.. True or False?

Good afternoon I've got a 604 shred I've never on your channel, how can give its full potential I really like it but that's only complaint thank U

Would you choose this bike over the Himmiway cobra?

@gogglespisano8631

Жыл бұрын

I’ve been going back and forth for 2 weeks and have spent HOURS here on YT and elsewhere. I’m still leaning toward the Cobra.

@ryandoe11

Жыл бұрын

@@gogglespisano8631 i dont like the cobras thumb throttle, and i think id prefer these regular size fat tires over the cobras 5'' thats huge!

@gogglespisano8631

Жыл бұрын

@@ryandoe11 they offer a twist throttle and grip set in accessories …. Why it’s not standard is absurd imo but regardless I’m still leaning to the cobra. To each our own

@tonysmith5507

Жыл бұрын

I couldn't get past the hydro wrap Finnish on the cobra . went for the vintage hot rod paint of the Ranger flip flop candy Apple green ,a Real head turner.

hello CitizenCycle if i have one of those geared motors 750w (1,000w peak) and i change the controller for a 52v 40amp one and a battery i upgrage it from 48v 15ah to 52v 30ah , do you think that the motor can hanndle it ?

Excellent review. Thanks for sharing.. but question, Does anyone make a kit to convert a Cadence assist to Torque Assist? 🤔 I'd love to convert mine if possible

Been searching really hard for a good e-bike. Do you have any experience or opinions on the Ariel rider Kepler?

Why did you take off your Wicked Freedom review ??????????????????????????????????????????????????

So so, a little too heavy to be nimble, For the price the EAhora Ace I think is a much more capable e-bike. That's the one I've been eyeing for a while. But never seen anybody do a solid review on it.

I'm not a fan of bikes that have paint schemes all over the place with multiple graphics. I'd probably want some wrap kit for that bike.

Does the torque sensor set a cruise control so you can stop peddling? If not You would be more or less ghost peddling.

@donrobinson9503

Жыл бұрын

Little pricey, I think I'd rather have a MAGIC CYCLE or a WICKED.. thank you for your review..

What happened to your wicked freedom ebike review?

@dalewomble218

Жыл бұрын

If I had to bet, I’d say it’s because they had to change their name from Wicked to Wired. Think they got into trouble because another E-bike company already had that name. I could be wrong but I chatted with one of there sales reps and it seems like they may be under new management because some of their pay opinions like Amazon pay was no longer valid despite it still showing as a valid form of payment on their website. Kinda of scared me away.

Went and looked at and test rode 2 of these and the battery connection started melting the metal leads. The batteries are poorly designed and poor quality but the rest of most of the bike is good quality. I passed on purchasing until this battery failure point is fixed. Update: ordered a Himiway instead after looking at one in a store. Just seems like better quality over all versus Cyrusher. When it comes to Chinese products it's really hit or miss with the quality and customer support.

@gogglespisano8631

Жыл бұрын

I have committed to the Cobra as well.

@PapaSteve1

Жыл бұрын

I’ve never had any quality issues with my Ranger. I have 1300 miles on it. Just changed brake pads is all. The battery has held up great. No overheating. I live in Texas and it’s been well over a 100 daily. I ride an hour to 1.5 hours a day.

Where’d ya get that bike helmet??

Do you know of any controller mods or upgrades ?

What speed u get in pas 2 and 3

Be a good trail bike !!

Kepler 52V 1000W Electric Fat Tire Ebike $1899.00

Way overpriced considering what you are not getting as standard. $1300 bikes come with integrated tail lights with brake light functionality, rear racks, fenders, etc. This bike has no possiblity for a front rack. It seems to have weak throttle acceleration. Who is spending $2800 for this?

Lol iam not to excited about 2 little screws holding wheels on 😕

@EBikeBuilder_

Жыл бұрын

lol I am wondering wtf that was

@PapaSteve1

Жыл бұрын

I have this bike and now have almost 800 miles on it. I have not had any issues with the screws coming loose at all. The bike is rock solid. No issues at all.

Ce nouveau Cyrusher Ranger 2023 coûte 2900 € + 717€ de batterie supplémentaire, de porte bagages et de couvercle de pneus pour la protection contre la boue, c'est trop chère, trop trop chère même. À ce prix de 3717€ , qui un grand salaire Mensuel nette de 4Mois en Europe comme l'Allemagne ( Deutschland 🇩🇪) par exemple, ils auraient pu améliorez la qualité du vélo : Porte- bagages arrière long et solide pour ceux qui font la route de 80Km par jour pour aller travailler, couvercle sur les pneus contre la boue et les insalubrités en circulation routière, des clignotants, des rétroviseurs, des grandes lampes devant et arrière pour être bien vue et pour bien voir et pour augmenter plus prudence et de sécurité dans la circulation routière. Ce prix de 2900€ pour Cyrusher Ranger 2023 est abusif. Les composants du vélo sont insuffisants. ILs doivent les améliorer et améliorer l'autonomie qui devrait atteindre 150 200Km, avec une batterie de 65V 30Ah. Avec une vitesse minimum de 45- 50Km/ h sans accélérateur. Là, les clientèles Européens seraient relativement satisfaits.

A lot of money., no extras..., bad... for less price w 52v 20ha and extras you can get for 1500.00 dollars but without suspension... not fenders acceleration... ...I do not recommend it...

Can you post a link to the handlebar stem you used?

so its not derestricted

Sorry i am a celticfan !!!

Pretty sure you've ridden all the Cyrusher bikes.. would this be your favorite one? I'm thinking it would be since it's the latest and greatest of their line.

@CitizenCycle925

Жыл бұрын

My favorite was definitely the Kommoda

@18andlikeit

Жыл бұрын

@@CitizenCycle925 can you explain why? I would think the torque sensor on the Ranger would put it above the rest...

Excellent video. I have a Juiced bike RCS. Love it. I'm really interested in this bike. Very impressed. I'm wondering about the torque sensor. No cadence , just torque sensor? My RCS has both.

For the price I'd rather keep my Himiway Cruiser

Way too expensive

Do you realise that by having the computer set to 30-inch wheel size on what is a 26-inch wheel bike, all of your speed and distance calculations will be wrong?

@CitizenCycle925

Жыл бұрын

Actually that is most accurate, from ground to top of tire is about 29in.

@Phil535

Жыл бұрын

@@CitizenCycle925 I suspect the computer is based on rim size

Avec 2900€ pour le Cyrusher Ranger 2023 qui est trop chère, moins des matériels composant de qualité, il faut acheter le Lankeleisi MG 600plus, 1.500€, 750W, 150Km d'autonomie, avec une batterie de 52V 20Ah. Avec un porte- bagage et des couvertures de protection de pneus contre la boue. Cyrusher exagère dans les prix d'achat avec un vélo électrique qui roule moins vite sur la route ; le travail musculaire est élevé, on arrive au travail fatigué, dégageant la transpiration. Ce n'est pas génial. Un vélo véritable électrique doit rouler seul. Le cycliste ne doit rien faire. IL ne doit pas se fatigué. IL doit juste pédaler dans la semoule, dans le vide, sans fournir d'effort musculaire pour ne pas trop se fatiguer, car tout le monde n'a pas de force de pédalage. Beaucoup utilisent en Allemagne ces derniers temps, le vélo électrique pour aller travailler et le week-end, faire de voyage. Mais un vélo électrique lourd, solide, résistant, rustique, qui avance vite sans efforts musculaire ne peut que plaire à la clientèle Germanique Européenne. N'est-ce pas ? Cyrusher doit améliorer ces points !

I hope you wear a helmet at 30 mph

Die Speichen reißen aus, weil keine Ösen Die Belastungen sind zu hoch Dann halten die Chinesen nicht aus Die Felge reißt

Sucks, these street legal bs we have here. Max 250w and 25 kmph

That's way too much $$$ for that bike ! I'd rather buy an Ariel Kepler or wicked freedom for $500 + savings and faster bikes !!!!!!

I gotta stop lusting over ur just seen u are married i still love u always and forever ❤❤❤(do u need a mistress) 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 j/k ❤❤❤❤

Nice review. What class is that bike rated at?

how did they get that to 90 pounds? did they use solid steel instead of tubes?

@ryandoe11

Жыл бұрын

they bike is over engineered, all quality, tubes are used but they have full forks and look at the rear frame on this beast