Thanks guys for watching! What experiences have you had with the INFJ / INTP combo?

@TheOriginalGankstar

5 жыл бұрын

A lot in recent years. Happy to be their friends and completely uninterested in romantic relationships (didn't actually get into one with any but one really badly wanted it - not bothered). PS, dealing with an INFJ narcissist was one of the worst experiences of my life.

@StickJockeyFPV

5 жыл бұрын

I have met maybe 5 INFJs of different enneagram types through dating apps. The things in common with my experiences are that I find them very boring. They seem too dorky and I can not even imagine what having sex with them would be like. I find how their Ni makes them interrupt me with their assumed conclusion of what I'm saying to be very annoying because it's 50/50 at best if the conclusion they came to is correct. The only thing I can come up with is that these golden parings are with INTP enneagram 5 people. I'm a 6w5 and slightly counter-phobic. People think of me as a determined and successful person that over analyzes things but gets what I want from life not a lazy theorist. This may be why I find INFJs a bit dry and boring to talk to.

@heavaden

4 жыл бұрын

Damn this is literally me and my husband. I don't get why he wants his miserable world and is so desperate to drag me down into it. He also acted fascinated by these things in me when we dated but when we got married, he wanted to change my way of thinking to his way of thinking

@heavaden

4 жыл бұрын

@@StickJockeyFPV lol well ya missed out buddy because we're fucking mind blowing in bed. 😂

@sapereaude6274

6 ай бұрын

Absolutely my most bewildering but intriguing relationships, whether business with males or personally with females. Absolutely perplexing. I think it is from our revulsion that we can't help with some of the decision making based on the waty they use Perception. With my ex I tried to hide that even drom myself, she picked up on it, not great. And it is hard to conceive of "inconsistent" people also having the same set of feelings as the rest of us, or as us anyway. And then the feelings the INFJ decides aren't there actually get hurt, and then the INFJ feels bad about what they said, until INTP uses it to manipulate them with it too often. As INFJ I try to better...perceive and respect other people caring about that sort of stuff (perceivers), I guess.

I know this is an older thread. But most of these comments blow my mind. I also respectfully disagree with a lot of your video. My fiancée (infj) and I (intp) met when we were 19 (her) and 21. We are now 23 and 26 (still immature according to most people). To generalize the intp type like this is a misconception. To me, it just sounds like most of these (intps) being talked about were just bad or selfish people. Every type has them. I'm not perfect but neither is she. We're still people. We have done a lot of growing since we met and I plan on continuing to grow with her. You put a lot of blame on the other person for why your relationship with them didn't work. It sounds like your intp (as well as most of the infjs in the comments) was showing you apathy, which happens when they aren't getting what they need in a relationship. My fiancée has learned since we've been together I (as an intp) require just as much attention, appreciation, and respect as she does in a relationship. Something that isn't always realized by an infj because they're always stuck on thinking about how they aren't getting enough from the other or what they're doing wrong. Something you need to realize as a person, not just in this type relationship, but in all relationships, is if you love this person, fell in love with this person, then you shouldn't be trying to change them to get what you want or need. Why change what you already love? You need to see what you yourself is doing wrong and fix it instead of blaming the other person. They only fail you when you set unrealistic expectations. Something infjs should know all about. You need to figure out and communicate with the other person to find out what YOU need to do to get what you want/need from them and vice versa. You're much more willing and eager to do something that will benefit you instead of someone else. I know that sounds selfish but it produces results. You sit down, share feelings, hold each other accountable, tell the other when you're not getting what you need to show your love properly. It's not always perfect, and we both slip up. But we love each other more each time we sit down, discuss what happened, and fix it. It shows we are strong and how much we love each other. But if it doesn't work out then it just wasn't meant to be. That's my rant. I hope whoever takes the time to read this finds the love they deserve. Thanks for your video, it started a long discussion between me and my fiancée. Also, I'm way more adventurous than she is. She's also religious and I am not.

@DiamondsRexpensive

4 жыл бұрын

You sir, have raised good points

@mutiahanum4866

4 жыл бұрын

This is why I love INTPs -INFJ

@mattydudak5250

2 жыл бұрын

Omg bro!!! Ur same as my bf and intp as well!!!♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️

@Anna-yw8yg

2 жыл бұрын

It sounds like my relationship with my INTP. He is amazing. We also met when we were young. Communication is key. You have to set clear boundaries with each other from the beginning. I do not recommend this relationship when you're both unhealthy and immature though, because it can be a nightmare. We faced a lot of obstacles because we were together so young. Just like any unhealthy personality types. However, a healthy INFJ and INTP is really amazing. The bond between you too will be so deep and unlike no other 🙂

I understand your perspective. I've dated 2 INTP's and the experiences were vastly different. I think what it comes down to is that INFJ INTP is a good base for a relationship, however, all other human relationship factors still play a major role. Emotional maturity, intelligence, priorities, connection, taste, investment. All of these things have to be aligned for any relationship to work regardless of personality type. If all of these things are aligned, then from experience I can say that an INFJ INTP relationship can be warm, fulfilling, and not in the least draining. We can use each other's gifts to balance one another out perfectly thereby offering each other more stability and happiness than we could ever achieve by ourselves, without becoming co-dependent. But 'balance' is the keyword here. All of the points mentioned above - emotional maturity, intelligence, priorities in life, connection/spark, taste, investment into the relationship - have to be aligned and such natural alignment is hard to come by, especially taking into consideration how rare these types are. You could argue that such alignment is something you have to build towards, which to a certain degree it is, BUT in the case of INFJ INTP, it's of great importance that from the start, the alignment comes mostly (say like 80%) naturally. Where other types might be more able to build alignment up from scratch, INFJ INTP is a recipe for disaster if the ingredients aren't accurately laid out for them from the start. The INFJ needs this natural alignment in order for them to not end up twisting and bending all their boundaries to fit the mold and the INTP needs the alignment because they will only bend so far. Even healthy, mature INFJ's and INTP's will find that these weaknesses are just part of who they are. If from the start you aren't at that 80%, the tweaking becomes too taxing on both the INFJ and the INTP which will lead to 1) a breakup or 2) an unhealthy dynamic that will likely look like an exhausted INFJ and an oblivious/withdrawn INTP or an exhausted INFJ and an Fe triggered INTP in distress. Of course, all of this is just an opinion based on personal experience, but I think I'm on to something here. - An INFJ-A in a relationship with an INTP. P.S. I know as an INFJ it's super hard to let go of someone's 'potential,' but please always put your own (mental) health first. Weigh it out, be honest with yourself. They might be rare, but there are plenty of (INTP) fish out in the sea.

@jodyvankuijk

3 жыл бұрын

And to add to this, maybe it can be food for thought: I don't think my current boyfriend and I will ever truly fall out of love, nor did my ex and I. We can only fall out of circumstances and decide it's not worth it, but the love is eternal. And that's beautiful. And that type of love is one that I have only ever found with INTP's.

@jessenceq3250

2 жыл бұрын

This really resonates with me. I'm in the same boat. Dating a different INTP. Have a special undying love. He's a lot more invested even though he lives 5k miles away. More invested and accomodating than the INTP who lived just down the road and later 45 mins away. The first one had a lot of trauma and was less consistent, more wild and chaotic. Drawn to it but like you said, it was more based on potential than right now reality. Still thankful to know him and of course my current boyfriend. He's just so sweet. Even more scheduled than me!

Based on her description, I’m not convinced she dated an INTP. It almost sounds like she dated an INTJ. His rigidity and concern for “his way” tipped me off. But once she said he was super neat I really had to call it into question haha. If her ex was an INTP, he was certainly fringe. A typical INTP would have been much more flexible, unless “her way” was to dismiss logic haha.

@mb.khatibi6444

5 жыл бұрын

Exactly, INTPs are the most open minded flexible type out there.

@DiamondsRexpensive

4 жыл бұрын

And what if they are unhealthy?

@tramarthomas6105

3 жыл бұрын

@@DiamondsRexpensive if that's the case, then she would've typed him differently. Also the description still wouldn't fit an unhealthy intp... I didn't pay much attention to the video, I'm just going off the comments

@Tified967

Жыл бұрын

Wenzes is also an ISFP not a cognitive INFJ for what it's worth; she's conflating behavioural stereotypes with cognition as are the vast majority of her followers who are themselves ISFPs predominantly; the Fi attached logic is highly apparent - no disrespect but it erks my Ti.

I dont think you did a good job discussing dating the INTP. This should be called "A video about my Ex"

@detago7814

3 жыл бұрын

Fax

@antondeannova7016

3 жыл бұрын

If only two choise what is good for istp..? Electrician or mechanic..?

@tramarthomas6105

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed, but i believe it's the only one she dated

@EMichaelBall

2 жыл бұрын

@ Anton Deannova Depends on the type of mechanic. Definitely not auto or diesel mechanic; KZread “Tony Seba Robin Hood conference” for why. Some types of mechanic (like HVAC tech) will never be made obsolete, nor be automated or outsourced. Electrician also fits in the latter mold. It depends on what interests you; if being an electrician excites you more, or at least is something you would be pleased and not annoyed doing in general, go for it.

I'm an INTP and I am always attracted to INFJs. We can have great conversation but it never works maybe because I won't try to do things to stay involved in the relationship. We end up no longer talking and never have closure. I get lost in my thoughts a lot so once I am alone the more I will want to be alone and will just walk away.

@jessenceq3250

3 жыл бұрын

Relationships grow when you water them.

Couldn’t disagree more. I’m an INTP who’s dated INFJs, and I’ve experienced the exact opposite of what you’re describing where it’s the INFJ being in their world and the INTP being open. I feel like what you’re describing is much more personal and has to do with maturity and adaptability

@johnhanigosky4085

4 жыл бұрын

I don't think an ESFJ is the best type for an INTP. Although ESFJs seem to like INTPs way more than INTPs like ESFJs. I've dated both an ESFJ and INFJ. INFJs are much more compatible. ESFJs do not have the intellectualism an INTP will eventually need I don't know what this logic is that I've come across lately where it's like "I can be a friend with someone and then I can love them for who they are, but I can't love them for who they when they're with me." I understand the intent, but I might suggest to strongly re-think that. I would want zero to do with someone if they said that to me in any capacity. Any relationship is about acceptance. What if that person accepts you, and you don't of them to some degree. It's like a power imbalance exists even if unspoken. If there is even one thing you can't accept about someone, do them a favor and stay out of their life

@DiamondsRexpensive

4 жыл бұрын

@@johnhanigosky4085 It is simple. Your friends aren't your spouse, therefore, they wouldn't have a strong impact on you or your life as a spouse would.

@DiamondsRexpensive

4 жыл бұрын

@@johnhanigosky4085 intps don't seem to care about intellect as much as they care for a sounding board, and someone to role play with

@johnhanigosky4085

3 жыл бұрын

@@DiamondsRexpensive Your friends don’t have an impact on your life. Your words

INTP here. Discovered some kind of, well, "wire" with an INFJ and trying to make sense of it. He is very honest with me, and says I am the only one that makes him feel understood. I do think I understand him. We are both highly spiritual, but non-religious, and I'm always going to do whatever I can to meet his needs better every day.

INFJ here with an INTP husband - this mostly describes our relationship, especially the part about me being more impressionable than him. I guess I should be grateful that our values are mostly aligned, I've never felt drained or taken advantage of but he definitely lives in his head. He will open up but only when he's very invested in the person. Good video, thank you.

@Wenzes

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your feedback Heidi 😊👍

@cominginthecloudsforus

4 жыл бұрын

I'm also INFJ wife with INTP husband! Having same values is key. And being mature enough to love the other as they are. Soul mates for sure. 18 years of marriage behind us. (All the struggles make us stronger, neve give up!)

I think I have seen al your older video's and enjoyed and learned so much! pretty much the first MBTI information I was understanding a little. I like it a lot that you are doing this again as you said with all your progress and changes !!! interesting so thank you!

@Wenzes

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your feedback 😀 glad it‘s beneficial 😊

I think mature Infj's and Intp's work well...over 30+. An Infj spends their early years taking on other peoples emotions mistaking them for their own, the Intp just avoids them. And when they are both rounded and mature an Intp will tell the Infj these are just other peoples bat shit emotions, the Infj will appreciate their Ti and feel less anxious and more comforted (As truly all Infjs are Ti obsessed), if your not your possibly an Infp...who wants all their (Fi) feelings to be confirmed. The Infj will then show spontaneous loving appreciation for the Intp, which then gives the Intp alot of satisfaction. I think being understood is definetly a mutual desire of Infj and Intp, but being understood is also subjective...as each individual is different. Infjs and Intps atleast have the Ti and Fe to try and do so.

Wow you have changed so much since the last video I watched, it's been a while. Congrats on quitting your job, you seem so happy! Gotta go back to some older videos and get caught up. You look great and have always been an inspiration to me. Thanks!

@Wenzes

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks to hear that Artemis 😊👍! Yes, the last years developed really in a great way 😀, thank you!

Your INTP is more tidied up than you? There's a small chance he is an enneagram 1 but that doesn't sound like an INTP. I have way too much stuff to think about to be spending my time straightening things up in my environment. Are you sure this wasn't an INTJ? Also, you may notice I bring up the enneagram in my comments. So, I might as well just say that a person's enneagram is way more significant in your compatibility and chemistry than Myers Briggs types. This is thoroughly field tested so to speak. My best relationships were with people along my lines of integration and disintegration. Others with different enneagram types and the same Myers Briggs as the ones that worked well did not work at all.

I love the ambiance that your background creates and wish my own apartment were that tidy and filled with such serenity ..... I will have to work on my own SE development - lol !!!

@Wenzes

5 жыл бұрын

I‘ll have some more videos on this serenity 😉

This explains so much, thank you! ❤

@Wenzes

5 жыл бұрын

Glad it‘s helpful Ciara 😊👍

For three years I shared an apartment with two other friends. One of my roommates was an INTP, As you might guess, we had some times when our ways of thinking seemed so different,. Yet somehow I still felt that there was a similarity, but it wasn't easy to grasp at first. In retrospect, I see that a lot of very things you're talking about here we're going on.

@Wenzes

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, knowing each others types helps a lot I have found out as well

It will work if you find an INTP that is commit to growth and finds it a logical course to live the most optimum life by experiencing through the other types’ filters. This is EXTREMELY rare...I personally feel this happened in me through parental bonding (oxytocin rewiring) and deep personal traumas/loss...INTPs can have deep bonds and emotions ...even develop a abstract spirituality 🖖✌️...I also believe there’s a gray area between INTP and Asperger’s...it’s helpful to know where on this “ spectrum” the INTP is...because some behaviors come directly from wiring that cannot be modified .

I dated an INTP for 3 years, I can relate to everything you talked about . We had some amazing periods of time together , especially when she opened up and explored my world with me. That stated to become less and less.. I eventually broke it off when I realized I would never be happy with who she ultimately was . (an ice princess lol) I Don’t regret the experience one bit though. Side notes: She wasn’t exactly tidy , very steadfast in her beliefs, and viewed emotions as if they were a weakness or hinderance . This type, however , is very very loyal.They also don’t seem to let many people in or show compassion unles they are truly into that person, so this was something I really respect, I’ll take that over fake any day. But it seems like love (INTPs can actually love deeply ) wasn’t a very emotional or connected thing , the love between us just existed..was taken for granted, and she only pulled it of the shelf when she deemed convienient. The INTPs inner commitment to whatever (I never fully figured out what “whatever”was lol) trumps everything. I really respect INTPs, I just learned that I could never spend my life with one.

@jonathanreave8558

5 жыл бұрын

INTP male here. Her Ti framework is dogshit if she's a female and not going for her biological imperative of being a mother and a caring wife, it's programmed in her. Her whatever just needs to align with nature and not some autistic bullshit that will ruin her life. Whoops look at me arguing with blind Te. What I meant was that you can maybe see yourself be with one once you add children in the picture and her taking care of them. See her personality serving their needs etc. Anyway your conclusion on the INFJ-INTP interaction seemed overly dramatic to me.

@kevinm5792

5 жыл бұрын

@Gaelic - Apologies for striking a nerve. We were young, kids weren’t even a thought. She was great with them indeed, went on to be elementary school teacher. By “whatever”, I was really referring to constant partying.. searching for something. Im a few years older and was finishing my masters program in the middle of the Great Recession while trying to find a job and piece together a future. We were grew incompatible. Keyword there is “grew” Lastly , yes it was overly dramatic, but not from my perspective. I hope that helps.

@TheRenanDez

5 жыл бұрын

INTP here. Your explanation is perfect. It's way better than the video who is a little butthurt. About the "inner commitment" is time to think, time to be outside of things to see clearly. The part about emotions (at least for me, she was probably different) is not necessarily a weakness, but if I do too much I would lose myself.

@jimbones1916

4 жыл бұрын

you needed too much emotion from herand she saw you as weak LOL. It would prob work out if she was the man and you were the woman LOLLLLL

@DiamondsRexpensive

4 жыл бұрын

@@jimbones1916 Lol that's not true

The way you said, your relationships it sounds like you have many. Wow good job, Seriously!! .... As a INFJ myself i know how difficult it would be, unless they are just Colleagues.. I do have friendships but only one person really knows me)) and she is a INTP I believe...keep up this good work))

Good video :)

The most beneficial part of this video is that 1.it explains why relationships are so hard for INTP 2. Simple and deep explanation of compatibility 3. Important for INTPs to choose a partener who has the same goals and way of life or at least a very accomodating partener. I am INTP The rest is good but I disagree with you about: INFJ - INTP conversations are the best ever when depth is put into cosideration. For sure intp cannot benefit infj much when conversation is about emotions or social issues but intp can give help infj to express their mysterious Ni and unlock their introvetred wisdom . And vice cersa intp can try to analyze intuition of intp to develop his social understandings. What confuses me is: The idea that ESFJs are the best for INTPs or really I am confused a little about the idea of the best compatible personality for INTP , some say it is ENTJ , but I can say that there are multiple factors that affect the idea of best compatibility given that both are healthy : 1- GENDER : who is the male and who is the female . This makes big difference in compatibility. So I think that ENTJ males are the best for INTP females not vice versa. But your point in this video about the accomodability of ESFJs makes good sense to why they are the best for INTPs because intps find it difficult to make steps towards their partener because of their closed or strict inner world and ESFJ because of their Ni weakest function they follow what INTP wants in the relationship , but again Gender here makes difference and intp male with esfj female is better that vice versa .

Do you know your enneagram instinct stacks for both? Example: sx/sp, so/sp etc. This is often why there's a conflict.

I believe I’m a cross between an Intp and infj. I actually realized this through my experiences dating and being friends with Intps. I became friends with an intp female who was my co worker and I found her to be clueless therefore selfish and needy. She would sometimes call me to tell me her life story but when I said anything about myself she would go mute. Lol. I couldn’t believe she thought I was that interested in her life. Also, would try to freeload off me often. The only problem I had with the intp male I dated was his neediness. He would text me all day and didn’t understand that I needed space. I started a small business and know he wouldn’t be able to give me the space I need to manage it so I had to end the relationship. But overall I did find him really sweet.

What do you mean his world is self destructive? (At 8.26 mins). I am confuse at how his world can be destructive because I am an Intp and i feel that i am happy in my world and it does not makes me unhappy

@Wenzes

5 жыл бұрын

Hi Rolland...I don‘t mean INTPs in general. I mean the intp that I know, the way he lives his life doesn‘t make him happy but he still doesn‘t want to change. If you are happy there is no reason to change, for him I feel it would have been very beneficial to change so he could and would be happy 😊

Preface: I haven't watched the entire video yet, but two thoughts that came to mind and I don't want to lose my train of thought before I have time to type it out. First, I think that the value system that you spoke of is something that's very vague for an INTP generally speaking - at least I know it is for me. It's not that I don't have values, they're just not readily apparent and it requires a "mental shift" of sorts in order for me to be able to notice and/or outline them properly for inspection. This leads into the second thought I had which was; I think the reason you were unable to convince the INTP in question of how the mode by which you operate would lead to a more qualitative state of being might be because in doing so, you relayed that information with language that, at least at first glance, appear vacuous when interpreted through Ti. Unless it's presented in a manner that fits with my Ti framework, I know for a fact that I would immediately be very suspect of, and extremely unlikely to accept such a proposition as true/right. While all of us obviously have feelings, appealing directly to mine won't make me understand any better because I don't even interpret my own motivations and/or behavior through that lens. At the risk of beating a dead horse here; a claim that I would be happier if I did more of A, immediately provokes me to ask why? I'm simply not content (perhaps even incapable of) *just* feeling happy - I need to understand the why and the how in a way that makes sense to my internal subjective logic, rather than through a feeling/value based system. That system exist of course, it's just secondary. Which is to say that I will never get there unless the information passes successfully through the primary one first.

@DiNozzo431

5 жыл бұрын

After watching the entire video I'd like to add a few more things that came to mind; I know that for myself, I have a very hard time utilizing my Ni. In order for me to even be in a position to do so, I would need to access it through Si. In other words, I need to be comfortable if I am to even notice the suggestive state that can manifest itself through Ni, and only then can I get out of Ti-Si and reach clarity without the relentless analysis. This is pure speculation on my part but I draw from experience as I was involved in a romantic relationship with an INFJ for 7 years; your need for adventure in your life does not go well with what I mentioned above. I am all good with new experiences, but it's not something that has the hallmark of security/comfortability necessarily, so the odds are high that I'll revert back to the space where things are known to me - otherwise I tend to lose my sense of direction.

INTP male married to a INFJ. So yes , don't expect any grand gestures of love , or should I rather say my grand gesture of love is my commitment to her . (20 something years? Is keeping track of the time that important when the commitment was for life ? ) . It took her a while to understand that I would not offer that to someone who wasn't my mental equal or someone I didn't respect and love ( love is a bit of a mystery but I suspect it's a by-product of my respect for her in every way ) . This seems pretty logical to me and questioning it is a huge insult and my explain your ex's reaction if he was committed to you.

@nimrarashid552

2 жыл бұрын

um isnt that the basic thing i mean commitment?

Good job at seeing us INTP as orderly. Which we are. Even though P types are supposedly messy. But our Ti-Si needs order. And Fe likes making a clean house for everyone. But INFPs are messy and disorderly.

Also sounds like a possible intj. Since when are INTPs neat and tidy?

@johnhanigosky4085

4 жыл бұрын

Depends. I went through phases of being organized or at least ear-marking time every week to clean. It eventually stopped but man I was really clean and organized for about a year

Sounds like he wasn't that into you. Regardless of type, if a guy likes you, he will give you attention

Yes Intp can be quite close off. I mean same for INFJ but the level of openness is crucial

Thanks for sharing! I'm interested in an INFJ guy. We're friends and I'm developing a sense to pursue a romantic relationship with him. But I somehow can't get a good sense of the INTP-Ne romantic relationship with an INFJ. I'm mostly interested in how to grow so I may meet him fully intimately if and when that time may come. Relationships with male INTP-Ti subtypes seem to be the common thing when it comes to thoughts of INFJ's on INTP's. Anyone have experience with an INTP-Ne subtype? The INTP-Ti subtype is way more prone to rules, much lower Fe, they spends less energy on their Ne, which causes them to be less open to accepting their Se PoLR that has a similar energy, and all of which keeps them further away from exploring their own Ni. I'm an INTP-Ne subtype, and us female INTP's tend to have a stronger Fe due to social expectations. We can still be randomly clumsy about it, but I feel, see and maneuver it much better than most male INTP's and some females. I also developed my Se through higher Ne. I get told I must be an ISTP but then my Ne pops out pretty obviously. I have fulfilling INFJ friendships and sibling relationship, and although they're intimate and are radiating beacons of happiness and intimacy in my life, they're not a reflection on a romantic intimate relationship with an INFJ.

I like to read people's actions and interactions and words then judge them upon that and if they Interest me and hopefully I dnt get board of them

I guess what confuses me about the INFJ is perceiving first and INTP is judging. I thought the J is judging and P is perceiving. Help!

@Wenzes

5 жыл бұрын

Completely right! In MBTI though we call J the function that is extroverted (as in seen on the outside). The first extroverted function of infj is fe (which is a judging function) and for intp it's ne (which is a perceiving function). Hope that helps! :)

@savvageorge

2 жыл бұрын

It is very confusing because INTPs are very judgmental inside their own heads. The J and P labels are more to do with how you interact with the world not what goes on internally. INTPs don't really care about the judgements of other people where INFJs care very much.

So true lol, the INTP gurl I was talking to only used to give me crumbs lol and I want the whole bread so it didn't work out and I moved on because I give a lot when am interested in someone and I want the same in return.

some work acquaintance of mine died at our workplace and my INTP friend refused to go to the funeral because she didn't like how he worked and didn't want to pretend otherwise. 😂 to me that is such an INTX thing to do.

Everytime I got a bbf must be Intp unconditionally, Idk why 🤷🏻‍♀️😂😂

Ti like Fi are filled with subjective facts and morals. Sometimes INTP living besides sensory family takes Si and devalues Ne. Ne seeks Ni. That's why mature INTPs are into INTJs and INFJs. INTP teaches INFJ with shadow Te everything he/she needs to know valuable, INFJ heals INTP with Fe and makes us happy. INTJ does the same with Fi, but it is more of a tool of connecting with each other. In your case, INTP was probably influenced by STJ family (I believe the father who gives INTP job/money influencing him the most), his Si was skyrocket. Ordering is weaker part of INTP since we lack Se and our Si is on low level, exept when ESTJ/ESFJ forces to do chores and stuff. My favorite stories were written by INFJs, so joining the world of an INFJ would be a privelege to me.

I befriended an INFJ female as a group project partner (Im an INTP) and if not for the age gap we'd have paired up.Conversation was an open channel,just wonderful and we share a similar sense of purpose and call to action(politically).Am currently seeing another INTP and its like dating myself in many ways.Kinda cool:) .Us INTPs are like children socially and w our curiosity.What this gal desxribes sounds more like an INTJ.As well my INFJ friend is very neat and orderly,me much less so(I can be very exacting and neat as a secondary quality but generally operate in haste)The gals descriptions don't square with my observations.The INTP Im seeing is also disorderly.Again it doesnt sound like an INTP shes describing.

INTPs value Se 2/4 (Socionics 4D model.) But are horrible at Se (1/4 D.)

Digesting information that doesn't make sense to the INTPs Ti is not having "different value system". This doesn't mean that flexibility isn't valuable, but honestly it sounded more like you didn't get you way and that is it. If an INTP sees bunch truths of the world being negative, you will never convert them out of those thoughts. You can however show them more positive things should be focused on.

INFJs benefit INTPs in an asymmetrical Socionics beneficiary relationship. Because the INFJ's Fe parents the INTP's baby Fe inferior. But the INTP's weakest PoLR function of Se is not there for the INFJ's valued Se inferior function.

Naw every intp and infj is different so your you I am me and my relationship with my infj is gonna work out 🛐🙇🏽‍♂️😇👸🏽remember God is my advisor not human advisors “non professional”

There's no way hell the guy she dated was an intp. intp's are rarely even organized, let alone neat freak.

@sivertberg8920

5 жыл бұрын

I can be both a neat freak, and a slob, if you ultimatli realize sometimes suffering orderlyness, saves time and energy it should be easy to understand

For the most part INTP'S if they are mature and the INFJ is too they both can meet in the middle INTP'S need intellectual stimulation . They live by their principals INTP'S are growth minded they're Fe is well developed .

Esfjs are the absolute worst for an intp. It's like we are not able to speak the same languague at all, and from the intp, this is incredibly draining

Dang, girl. Take a breath. It was hard to listen to, constant noise rather than taking a pause.

I think it would help your channel if you were less resistant to the less flattering sides of the personalities. Reading Carl Jung was interesting this way because he pointed out all the ugly elements 2 the psychological function. When you were talking about the INTP and his outburst through interior Fe you seemed to be afraid to cast any negative light on these people and I mean this in the most caring way but I feel like it is a little disingenuous a little dishonest and I'm not saying it's on purpose of course perhaps this is something that you're rejected into your shadow and I think it would help your viewership and spice up your videos if you were more comfortable talking about the negative sides to these personalities and I mean that not my content but by genuinely being more comfortable you would produce this sort of more complete content. The way I'm word this is likely infj specific and I'm assuming as an infj you'll get the picture this was type or rather dictated by a speech to text sorry for any error or strange wording.

@Wenzes

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for your feedback! I really do! I just really only look at my life and the people around me from the perspective of ‚is this person making my life better or not‘ and all other thinking is just not part of my personality. The MBTI videos are just for fun in between! My channel is about personal development and the way I think has helped to me to change my life drastically to the better.

@nikkimousiex1931

5 жыл бұрын

@@Wenzes the more important aspect to my feedback was where I point though some potentially unconscious Shadow activity, and since you did not address that in your response perhaps maybe I was right.

@Wenzes

5 жыл бұрын

Sedative i think you are righ! I consciously avoid looking at the ‚negative side‘...I do that though on purpose because this approach has helped me chsnge my life so drastically, that‘s what I am saying. But can you give me some more input? I always wanna grow so this information might help me. I look at things, see if it is not for me and move on! I do not stay with negativity at all.

@nikkimousiex1931

5 жыл бұрын

@@Wenzes Wenzes forgive me but in the first sentence you say I think you are right and then you contradict me by saying you consciously do this. Now did you consciously contradict yourself in that sentence? Perhaps I am right, but what am I right about? If you go back to where you were discussing that incident with your ex boyfriend you might see in real time what I might call some repression you wanted to say something negative unconsciously held back due to not wanting to make a triggering blanket negative statement about INTP in general. Now I'm not completely sure this properly articulates my intuition here but this is one potential area that may provide some Clues. I certainly felt something and I'm a bit too busy to really go over too much detail but just consciously repressing something doesn't mean that the reason you're consciously repressing it isn't unconscious. The element I am attempting to reveal is the unconscious motivation behind our conscious attempt to filter or otherwise sensor. It was a bit awkward.

@Wenzes

5 жыл бұрын

Got it! I keep it in mind! What I meant with: you are right is that I do keep negative judgements out of my speech and yes do not wanna generalize! Thanks for your time!

Some INTPs are obsessively regimented others are extremely untidy. It tends to be one or the other - dunno why.

@tuomanviii9653

5 жыл бұрын

According to Dave SuperPowers there are typical INTPs (Ti Ne Si Fe) and so called "jumpers" INTPs (Ti Si Ne Fe). Jumpers INTPs with prefered Si function (instead of Ne) would be more organised and controling their surroundings, what would make them look as mini IxxJs.

@mb.khatibi6444

5 жыл бұрын

@@remley8877 So you are untidy like just want to change yourself sometimes ;) But for some people are between p and j. But his boyfriend as she says because he is not flexible he is INTJ, since intps are flexible people.

What type are you dating right now?

@Wenzes

5 жыл бұрын

Believe it or not: an istj...would have never thought that would be possible 😄

@annaynely

5 жыл бұрын

@@Wenzes I think it just goes to show us that we can connect with anyone or any type and it just depends on timing and the evolution each human being has gone through in order to connect in a beautiful way with another person. Congratulations Wenzes !!!!!

@Wenzes

5 жыл бұрын

Anna Maria Gonzalez i completely agree Anna 😊 thank you so much! 😀

Glad you got to vent about your bad boyfriend, but your unfortunate experience has really distorted your thinking. Sheesh, I've never heard so many ridiculous generalizations. This is a problem I have with many of your videos, including your previous INTP video. You're so sure your conclusions are universal, but they're all based on your rather limited personal experience.

@kcartsbeat

3 жыл бұрын

Btw, I’d like to hear HIS side of the story.

I’m pretty sure I know why that INTP broke up with this chick.

@nimrarashid552

2 жыл бұрын

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... love the unbiased fact. INTPs tend to be smarter than other types. I stopped listening. Your INTP was emotionally unavailable. This video is too long.