The guy that created BILLIONS in share holder value with B-list superheroes should be fired?

@heavycritic9554

Ай бұрын

Some of them weren't even B-list, tbh.

@cl4-tpgaming

Ай бұрын

@@heavycritic9554maybe hulk, but the other five were b and c list characters, Captain America was a joke until his movie came out, iron man had like 2 good comics, and Thor, Thor you really needed a lotta shrooms to appreciate.😂 there are newspapers from 2007 that call paramount leadership idiots for making an iron man movie, they said it would never make as much money as Spider-Man 3😂

@bluesunrise2323

Ай бұрын

Honestly it doesn't matter what you did before if you been trash lately it's like sports talents come and go people peek and then it's all downhill from ther

@Alex_Logan22

Ай бұрын

​@@bluesunrise2323 Yea I'm sure Deadpool will pick up from The Marvel's downslope.

I still think Marvel’s issue is that post endgame, they got spread too thin with the Disney plus content. Throw a pandemic in there(which hurt the storylines if Multiverse of Madness, Falcon and the Winter Soldier, and most likely others), and you’re just in a tough spot. Let’s not forget Chadwick’s death in there too.

@ThePrinceofHisOwnKingdom

Ай бұрын

And the firing of Gunn.

@tedwards1092

Ай бұрын

And a CEO who took away creative control and gave it to a bunch of bankers and then said crank out as much stuff as possible.

@bluesunrise2323

Ай бұрын

true all this just compounds...the real test is if they can somehow right the ship in the next few years or if it just continues to sink...and i think it all starts with nelson peltz pushing the right buttons getting things moving, Disney is like one of those failing restaurants on gordon ramseys show and they need someone to come in and clean house and fire a lot of people who dont make the cut...

@Dragonstar13

Ай бұрын

Agree all 3 points. Gunn being fired was the biggest mistake Disney did, and I'm glad they go GotG3 done, but sad that Gunn is no longer with the MCU. Feige and Gunn together would been a great team.

@bluesunrise2323

Ай бұрын

@@Dragonstar13 at least DC is in good hands now

nelsen peltz sounds like a villain of the X-Men

@tengkudita3665

Ай бұрын

He can play Trask or Henry Gyrich.

@EnterGalacticComics

Ай бұрын

He’s Creed from FOH

@ludensanchez3264

25 күн бұрын

Lmao

I’m sure the comment section here will be very mature, civil, and understandable.

@KeeperProtector

Ай бұрын

Hope so.😶

@salahalamoudi7718

Ай бұрын

Cultural warriors have been in meltdown over Disney for 6 months. Their stock just hit 120, and Wall Street expects it to go even higher.... They're seething

@davidmelendezsoto7528

Ай бұрын

Let the games begin

@owencapp2004

Ай бұрын

John’s comment sections are never mature, civil or understandable

@toonytube2444

Ай бұрын

😂

There is also the fact that Chapek put so much pressure on Feige to make so much product that Feige couldn't manage the quality in the past few years

@britishgass6947

Ай бұрын

I personally do not buy that as the reason for the decline of Disney. But I do appreciate you replying with a thought out and reasoned point

@bluesunrise2323

Ай бұрын

Chapel was barely ther a lot of the shit was already in motion bob over I think is mostly to blame here

@pkthe2ndhokage188

Ай бұрын

It’s 100% Chapek’s fault that we have a BAD MCU phase. Feige is in repair mode right now.

@txag

Ай бұрын

@@pkthe2ndhokage188 What was the total time Chapek was fully in charge as CEO? Hint, it wasn't very long. Who was leading Marvel from Iger to Chapek? Hint, it was still Feige in charge of Marvel. Feige has to answer for the poor direction of the MCU.

@SirmasterBruceWang

Ай бұрын

@@txag shhh, they don't want critical thinking here

While yes some movies haven’t been my cup of tea, it be stupid asf to fire the person who built the entire MCU.

@omsaxena116

Ай бұрын

Yes, Feigi was part of the beginning of the MCU. However, as he got more and more control over Marvel, the quality kept decreasing. Other factors may be at play, but there is a clear pattern here.

@roughghost663

Ай бұрын

Bro where have you beeen he got ALL of his power taken away ever since Covid he barely got it back a few months ago….

Something tells me if marvel had the rights to Spider-Man, this dude would be mad at the success of the Spider-verse films.

Nelson is one of those people that they they are not racist they have a black friend but you realize that Kayne west is the black friend

@SirmasterBruceWang

Ай бұрын

nah he's one of those guys who thinks logically and can see through the garbage agendas

@Alex_Logan22

Ай бұрын

​@@SirmasterBruceWang "The mutant agenda must be extinguished."

@SirmasterBruceWang

Ай бұрын

@@Alex_Logan22 the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few

@Alex_Logan22

29 күн бұрын

@@SirmasterBruceWang “needs” 🤣

Nelson Peltz "I question Feiges record" Everyone "We all question your stupidity. "

@kevinjoseph3120

Ай бұрын

Oh behalf of everyone, we do not say that

@zach872

Ай бұрын

The way you wrote this comment makes me question your intelligence

@king_julian327

Ай бұрын

Post Endgame he kinda has a point.

@SirmasterBruceWang

Ай бұрын

I definitely question your intellect after this comment hahaha

@txag

Ай бұрын

@@king_julian327And that's what's meant. Investors care about what people have done lately. Not what they did 15 years ago.

If he doesn't want females in movies, why is his daughter, Nicola, an actress, who was Mark Wahlbergs daughter in the Transformers franchise!!

@latishabuckner8231

Ай бұрын

Oh it's fine as long as women don't lead films I guess.

@svenm4740

Ай бұрын

@@latishabuckner8231 Or it is the usual "that is something completly different" stuff people like this love. But I am honestly surprised his daughter is allowed to get a job of her own. He sounds like a hardcore "stay in the kitchen" guy.

@Raivo_K

Ай бұрын

As "leads". Not "at all". Two very different things.

The first Ms. Marvel and Black Panther made over a billion each. Disney didn't need to do it but how many black leads or female leads in an MCU film? Not many and a nice change for once. I would love to know what message his talking about.

@Raivo_K

Ай бұрын

Odd how all the racists and misogynists just went to see those movies. Almost as if people did not care as long as the movie was good.

@Alex_Logan22

Ай бұрын

Yea The Marvel's really doesn't have a message, it's all over the place with randomness.

I don't care about the race or gender of the people starring in the movies. Just make sure the writing is good and you've got my money.

@pse2020

Ай бұрын

i aprove of this message

@sambradley1256

Ай бұрын

It really is that simple.

I'm sure he has no problem with all wite cast of Northman. i'm sure he's all good with that

@bryanwouters443

Ай бұрын

Northman is not Disney movie so why would he care🤣and Elon lives rent free🤡

Not to mention, 1st best actor/actress nomination for an Oscar, for Angela Bassett, a black woman…

@therealeverton

Ай бұрын

Great point!

They didnt even include Black panther 2 as a women led film smh

I guess Peltz just revealed his own hand, he knows and understands nothing about films. It’s unfortunate.

@stichhavoc88

Ай бұрын

He knows how to make profit which is something the MCU has lost the ability to do by putting out quality films and content

@christinemikhail7088

Ай бұрын

@@stichhavoc88 True. However, He kind of revealed he doesn’t know (understand) much about the movie business the minute he started questioning Feige tho. Even I know that was a dumb move.

@stichhavoc88

Ай бұрын

@@christinemikhail7088 no questioning Feige is a valid point. He’s not questioning the past he’s questioning his record of the last 5 years when Feige has soley been in charge. As lest we forget Feige wasn’t soley in charge during the reign of the MCU’s success

@christinemikhail7088

Ай бұрын

@@stichhavoc88 I thought there was a mandate by the other CEO to pump out as much content as possible. I also thought that under the previous guard, a lot of rights had been stripped away from studio heads that they previously had. Did quality change? Absolutely. I do think that Bob Chapek made a lot of decisions that may have affected the outcome as it is today. If you think about it……. It’s kind of when everything started to go downhill.

@stichhavoc88

Ай бұрын

@@christinemikhail7088 Bob Chapek isn’t innocent by no means you are correct there. However many of the things that also caused issues during his tenure were instigated by Iger before his departure. The loss of quality was a product of both Iger and Chapek as both of them pushed for ALOT of content to be made for streaming. D+ is one of Iger’s biggest issues during his tenure as he wanted it to be ready to compete against Netflix etc in a short amount of time. Marvel started to have issues before Chapek took over post endgame it’s been a steady decline. We must also remember Feige had to get approval from the marvel committee during the most successful years of the MCU. From phase 4 and on it’s been Feige in charge, he is the one who hired inexperienced writers, directors etc to helm multi million dollar productions and while some happened under Chapek, his infamous same day and date release on D+ one of his glaring missteps, many were already under way during Iger they just released during chapek’s tenure.

This is why we need John in these spaces. He backs his POV w/data and facts and not unfounded emotionality and rage. Don't retire, John, we need you.

@rudyzamora5397

Ай бұрын

Seriously, When he retires we’re fahkd

@yubnub420gaming

Ай бұрын

​@@rudyzamora5397 Yep..😐

@pkthe2ndhokage188

Ай бұрын

The rants are entertaining

@yubnub420gaming

Ай бұрын

@@pkthe2ndhokage188 also true. Lol

@crazycriz5000

22 күн бұрын

His takes are VERY emotional. He literally is known for going on rants. He’s not using data, he’s using straw man arguments like he always does. He picks and chooses when he wants to bring nuance into the scenario to support his own agenda which is to support all the bs identity politics. Its not brave to back it, its cowardly to sit by as a company destroys a brand and spit in its fan’s faces that helped build that brand.

Someone tell Archie Bunker to go back to his kitchen and eat his oatmeal and rice pudding. 🙄 The MCU went south after the previous CEO came in and changed everything and created a mess by ram assing content at the expense of quality. The new CEO is now going back to what made him billions by putting people in the right place to do what they do best.

@Kekkersboy

Ай бұрын

That's an insult to Archie Bunker. In the actual series Archie supported and defended people of different races and cultures.

"As Peltz would say 'two too many'" 😂😂😂 Ya funny

Kris to answer your question this seems like a pure case of personal vendetta over business structure. For someone to say they don't want female leads or an all black cast or even let Kevin Feige keep his job, all of this smells like a personal vendetta over a professional business move

It's not diversity that makes a bad movie: it's not enough investment in the script, it's a bloated budget, it's a lack of risk taking. A black woman playing your lead has nothing to do with it.

@crazycriz5000

25 күн бұрын

But when you prioritize diversity hires over story and people that can tell great stories, it DOES matter. The director of the Marvels was a black female, you CANNOT sit there with a straight face and tell me that she was the best person for the job. Disney knew she wasn’t the best option, but they hired her because she’s black and because the leads were female. Her background in comic books was fan fiction, that’s hardly any concrete experience. You guys can deny it all you want but Disney and Hollywood in general clearly has an agenda that’s hurting their brand. Denying it only causes them to continue to produce terrible stories.

@sandyduckman43

25 күн бұрын

​@crazycriz5000 Or hear me out, sometimes you think they'll be great for the job, but then it doesn't turn out the way you thought it would? Will you say the same about Morbius? Directed by a white guy, written by two white guys.

Wants Kevin fired but not Kathleen Kennedy??

@CRYSTAL_CUSTOMS

Ай бұрын

Kevin isn't fired

@TFedits85

Ай бұрын

@@CRYSTAL_CUSTOMS yes, I know that

@CRYSTAL_CUSTOMS

Ай бұрын

@TFedits85 sorry my bad, I misread, I didn't see the "wants" part

Peltz is going to go crazy when he finds out what X-men are about.

@SirmasterBruceWang

Ай бұрын

didn't know the x men were entirely a black or female team interesting

@tyronetarvin2310

Ай бұрын

The X-men are all about inclusivity. Nothing about being all black or female team. Clearly you missed the point 🤯

@pkthe2ndhokage188

Ай бұрын

@@tyronetarvin2310 THANK YOU! Your response was perfect.

@SirmasterBruceWang

Ай бұрын

@@pkthe2ndhokage188 How was his response perfect? He was telling you you're wrong bahahaha that's awkward

@pkthe2ndhokage188

Ай бұрын

@@SirmasterBruceWang Tyron’s response was perfect. And Tyron was telling Bruce Wang that he missed the point. Duh.

"THE MESSAGE!!!"

@davidmelendezsoto7528

Ай бұрын

😂I love when he says that

If Peltz's response to "I don't know about movies, well neither does Disney" then he's saying he is no different to what is making the studio unsuccessful. In other words, he is of no use. What's needed then is someone who knows how to make profitable and good movies.

Kevin Feige will be fine once they get Deadpool & Wolverine receipts.

@crazycriz5000

27 күн бұрын

It’ll just be like GOTG 3, if the success doesn’t continue it won’t change a thing. Deadpool was successful before the MCU so people are expecting it to be a banger, just like people expected Guardians 3 to be a banger because James Gunn is an amazing storyteller. They’re like outliers.

@funkysam1345

12 күн бұрын

​@@crazycriz5000 Yeah I don't think any single movie can be the saviour of the MCU. coz what they need is a proper direction. If a movie vows to correct that, then we could say the MCU is back on track. But there seems to be no vision. These are certain isolated projects which literally take place outside the current MCU. Nd it's just a temporary fix. Marvel cab only truly be fixed when they set out m with a clear direction in terms of story telling.

@crazycriz5000

12 күн бұрын

@@funkysam1345 And stop hiring directors like Nia Dacosta

Fire him instead of Kevin Feige

I lost it when John said this “nipple pimple”. I’m still dying 😂 gonna try to use that sometime

Isaac Perlmutter and Neslon Pelzt both born 1942 are older than time ,how are they still chairperson of Marvel entertainment

@SirmasterBruceWang

Ай бұрын

how is Biden still president at his exact same age as Peltz?

Feige gave us Iron Man, Avengers, Guardians and Winter Solider his work speaks for itself

@txag

Ай бұрын

That's old news. Phase 4 and 5 have struggled, at best.

@soulofanerd9364

Ай бұрын

And your just naming movies that are unanimously considered great. Besides those, the entire mcu averaged 1 billion per film so even the ones you haven't named are MAJORITY HUGE financial successes. So this guy's questioning the current leadership just based off 2 years is kinda lame.

@txag

Ай бұрын

@@soulofanerd9364 It's called a trend. And so far there's nothing that's shown the downward trend won't continue. Sure there's been blips of success but over all Phase 4 and 5 have been a major disappointment regarding Marvel. And that's not talking about other areas of Disney.

@soulofanerd9364

Ай бұрын

@txag there's nothing that shows it will continue either 🤷🏽‍♂️. To say major disappointment is subjective while figures and data say it's been "A" disappointment for sure (MAJOR is the subjective part). Either way none of what you said refutes what I just said about this Pelz guy's stupid statements

@txag

Ай бұрын

@@soulofanerd9364 So far there is no data to show there will be a turn around. Can it? Sure. But investors will look at what's coming up and determine if they will change the current trend. And no, to say what Disney has been doing lately has been a major disappointment to investors looking to make a good return on their investment. You're more than welcome to prove his statements are objectively stupid.

Huh?😂 wtf?!!! Is this guy aware it's 2024 not 1924?

I would like more diversity films. However, I’m tired of gender and race swapping. There’s so many good heroes to choose from. Blue marvel, is a black hero who has to do with the civil rights movement and is extremely intelligent and powerful. He is just one example of many. Or Dr voodoo

@farhada6488

Ай бұрын

This, most people don’t have an issue with diversity, it’s the unnecessary race and gender swapping that’s annoying, as you said there’s so many good original characters they could use but they don’t

@SirmasterBruceWang

Ай бұрын

@@farhada6488 how dare you guys bring up a nuanced opinion on this topic! Only 3xtrem3st opinions are allowed here!

@BenJonesart

Ай бұрын

@@SirmasterBruceWang Had me laughing and nodding at the same time lol

@erothawilliams266

Ай бұрын

But Peltz would object to films about those two characters being made.

@SirmasterBruceWang

Ай бұрын

@@erothawilliams266 where's the proof of that, bot?

It amazes me they didn't mention former Marvel Entertainment president Ike Perlmutter said the exact same thing. He based his opinion on this based on he didn't think the action figures would sell. Sounds like Perlmutter got in Peltz's ear, both are in the wrong.

@johncampea

Ай бұрын

Did you actually watch the video?

@richardhearn1579

Ай бұрын

@@johncampea Of course, I don't recall hearing Perlmutter's name in it though. Peltz's talking points are exactly the same as Perlmutter's, whether they are for the exact reasons I don't know, but either way regardless of Perlmutter or Peltz's reasoning for their statements, they are both in the wrong.

Questioning Fiege, did you not look at his billions of dollars he made Disney? Yes, he’s had some flops/stumbles, but he has been very successful.

@cl4-tpgaming

Ай бұрын

I mean, did he flop, or was he asked to not only pump out movies faster than previously but also tv shows and not be allowed to properly shoot or write those shows, to the point where a finale of one of the shows points this out and calls out Disney for making marvel subpar😂

@king_julian327

Ай бұрын

​@@cl4-tpgamingAll of that was in place before Chapek took charge. But so many peeps just wanna blame him for all the crap we've seen. Most of this shit was greenlit and released pre and post his time there.

Nelson is the kind of guy who calls the police when a person is mowing the lawn while black 😅

@user-nw3jl4mm6v

Ай бұрын

And woman

I want better writing in movies, but getting rid of diversity isn’t a good idea.

@dylangullberg7383

Ай бұрын

If you get rid of diversity, you wipe out more than 80 years of Marvel storytelling precedent.

@Raivo_K

Ай бұрын

Exactly. As long as the story is good i doubt 95% of people what race or skin color the characters have. The problem is that the stories and scripts have been crap and now they give acting, directing and storytelling to women and blacks who have no prior experience. It's a recipe for disaster at the box office and that's exactly what has been happening. These movies dont have female or black leads because it makes sense for the story. They're there to fill a quota. The few white men who are there are portrayed either as bumbling idiots, racists, misogynists and bad guys. Or all of the above.

@Alex_Logan22

Ай бұрын

​​@@Raivo_K Black Panther is a billion dollar franchise cause it's good dude. And even for something bad like the Marvels, the leads made perfect sense.

Wakanda Forever was also a female lead film. So it should increase the average box office for that category.

@crazycriz5000

27 күн бұрын

Wakanda Forever was very much carried by the sentiment of Chadwick’s passing, it was more so a celebration of his memory as T’challa. The movie was pretty mid.

This is something that Ike Perlmutter would do.

Well, at least Nelson Peltz says the quiet part out loud so we can stop pretending that a lot of the backlash against phase 4 and phase 5 of MCU isn't rooted in bigotry.

@tonyOn1ce

Ай бұрын

Id say its 90 percent because it's crappy and 10% of bigots and people saying mSHEu. But mostly because they dropped the ball.

@BirdLives7

Ай бұрын

A lot but in fairness marvel has been awful recently

@thehacker4012

Ай бұрын

@@tonyOn1ce Nah, I think percentage of crappy MCU films and shows is much lower than 90%

@thehacker4012

Ай бұрын

@@BirdLives7 Fans said the same thing about the Simpsons during its golden years.

oId wite man doesn't want all black cast? SHOCKING

@jonathanfrederick8458

Ай бұрын

Made even worse by the fact that he is attempting to PERMANENTLY BAN gender equality.

@Kekkersboy

Ай бұрын

The return of Perlmutter

@ronpetersen2317

Ай бұрын

@@jonathanfrederick8458 Huh? When did he say that? He said something about why have an all female superhero cast and suggesting a variety ... literally suggesting diversity. You might be confusing the word equity and equality. The idea of equity is to push out one group and replace them with another ... a few years ago we called this discrimination.

@lucascassol2995

Ай бұрын

He much prefers putting his daughter in his movies, but never as a leading actor. I’m surprised no one’s talking about how this guy is the Nicol Peltz’s dad, Katara from The Last Airbender 2010 and Problematic Female Character #1 from Transformers Age of Extinction.

@DarrinBell

Ай бұрын

@@ronpetersen2317 You might be confusing your anti-equity ideology with what happened with Black Panther and Captain Marvel. It’s not as if there was a white Black Panther with a white cast that got “pushed out and replaced” by Black people. It’s not as if “being white” is the default attribute of all movie characters, and therefore the existence of a couple films about and starring Black people is taking anything away from white people.

Black Panther 2 is also a female led movie

@GoldenPyle

Ай бұрын

The Marvels was all women leads

@user-nw3jl4mm6v

Ай бұрын

​@@GoldenPyleso did Black Panther 2:Suri,her mother and Riri.

@JamesJacksonFilmz

Ай бұрын

The comment was "All Female Cast" Not "all female lead". There is a difference.

@bernwulf

Ай бұрын

@@JamesJacksonFilmz thats nonsense was there ever a all female cast movie? I think they meant leads

@JamesJacksonFilmz

Ай бұрын

@@bernwulf irrelevant because that’s what he said. I can’t tell what he thinks. I just know what he said. Words do matter

If someone comes out and says "why do we have to have an all black cast in a Marvel film" , while they're not saying I don't want an all black cast, they are basically inferring that they don't want one. The same goes for all female leads in a Marvel film. It's not hard to understand that this guy Peltz or Putz is a bigoted and misogynistic PoS. The fact that there are ppl on this chat trying to defend what Peltz said means that they are either disingenuous at best or they have the same bigoted and misogynistic views. So, no, John is not wrong with the title of this video.

This guy is nuts. He shouldn't be in charge of anything creative.

an old rich man complaining about race and women? what’s new?

@theman344

Ай бұрын

someone sounds jealous .. i guess old, rich, white men are not allowed to have opinions??

@rachelgreenwood7047

Ай бұрын

He's gonna run for president of the USA next!! 🤣🤣🤣

@Alex_Logan22

Ай бұрын

​@@theman344 Not stupid ones.

@snoogiepew

28 күн бұрын

@@theman344 When did i say white? You literally brought race into this.

Ahhh yes. MAGA Strikes Back. Very cope by Peltz

So out of 33 marvel films only 3 have female leads!?!? That’s your M-SHE-U 3 films!?!?

@BPS3519

Ай бұрын

Well on the film side its technically 5 female led movies, but for context there are multiple female led Disney+ shows like Echo, Ms Marvel, Wandavision, She-Hulk, and you could argue Hawkeye and Secret Invasion, which are all part of the MCU. I don't really care about the M-She-U argument but you can't ignore that those properties exist.

@Tuntira

Ай бұрын

​@@BPS3519correct but if you look at all the Disney + series, there is a balance 4 male vs 4 female led shows (I don't count what if as it's an ensemble show)

@nikunjdixit1175

Ай бұрын

@@BPS3519 Hawkeye and definitely Secret Invasion were definitely not female led Disney+ shows. By the same definition, Wandavision could be argued as a male led show.

@Michael-le5ph

Ай бұрын

@@BPS3519 and are all of these NOT Marvel characters with their own comic series that Disney borrowed from to make the shows and films?

@BPS3519

Ай бұрын

@@Michael-le5ph Elaborate on your point a little more plz. They are marvel characters. The OP post was that there were only 3 female lead properties in the MCU. I was just stating that that was factually incorrect as the Disney+ shows are a part of the MCU and there a quite a few female led shows.

Fire Feige? What is going on with Disney. Feige is Disneys cash cow there.

@stichhavoc88

Ай бұрын

No he’s not. He hasn’t been in over 6 years.

@pkthe2ndhokage188

Ай бұрын

@@stichhavoc88 what was the number that Campea just said that MCU made over the last 6 movies? Seems like a lot of money. Not prime time MCU money but still a lot of money.

@stichhavoc88

Ай бұрын

@@pkthe2ndhokage188doesn’t excuse the continued undisputed decline of the brand dude. Yes some money has been made but also to have remember how much they’ve spent, distribution cuts etc. Also Feige has hired inexperienced and under qualified people direct, write and run these multi million dollar shows which has resulted in costly losses with re-shoots, re-writes delays etc. He’s failed to keep the quality of the brand from before and that falls on him.

@pkthe2ndhokage188

Ай бұрын

@@stichhavoc88 you don’t blame Chapek for any of the decline? Seems to fit the timeline of the decline. Let’s see how the MCU is now that Iger is back in charge. But I agree with you on the decline. The Marvels was a HARD watch.

@stichhavoc88

Ай бұрын

@@pkthe2ndhokage188 no Chapek shares some of the blame absolutely his move to same day release on D+ was ill advised. Iger won’t help it any either as many of the fallouts were instigated by him. As Chapek wasn’t the only one pushing for a lot of D+ content Iger was guilty of this as well. Also we can’t forget he MASSIVELY overspent billions Acquiring Fox. He’s done close to nothing to improve the state of Disney as a whole other than jacking up prices a the parks etc. The continued disorganization and production issues still remain at Marvel, they keep producing films and content that costs too much and doesn’t perform nor is it liked in majority by the target audiences as the numbers don’t lie. Also Marvel has burned the bridge horrendously with VFX companies due to their disorganized manner behind the scenes and unrealistic expectations. No, Feige is on the hook as is Iger

Shouldn't Wakanda Forever be considered the 3rd female lead superhero movie Marvel produced? Shuri is the main character.

@Krysten_now

Ай бұрын

This!

@AndrewClark-ie9nx

Ай бұрын

I mean it really doesn’t matter. It made over 700 mill that’s not gonna help Pelts point anyway.

@Krysten_now

Ай бұрын

@@AndrewClark-ie9nx it just further supports John's point even more.

@king_julian327

Ай бұрын

​@@AndrewClark-ie9nxLet's just ignore the fact that over a 3rd of the box office exaporated from it's predecessor.

@SirmasterBruceWang

Ай бұрын

@@AndrewClark-ie9nx it does matter when you consider that it made over $500 mill less than the first one. Ouch

The Fabelmans was a bust, and therefore, I question Steven Spielberg's record.

I'm not trying to be snarky, I'm genuinely curious: Do you think Peltz knows that Madame Web and Morbius aren't Marvel Studios productions?

@heavycritic9554

Ай бұрын

I would honestly be surprised if he knew that.

@dylangullberg7383

Ай бұрын

No. Be snarky. Peltz is rectal cancer in human form.

“I question his record” is crazy! Peltz is the type of guy to say “I’m not racist, I have a black driver". It’s bad enough this dude spent the better part of a century ruining the world but now he wants to ruin my entertainment.

Marvels decline isn’t all on Feige. Previous leadership has mandated so much out of the MCU that it has worn it dull and dry. Given more time, the MCU can get back on track, after all it was Feige that pioneered the Infinity Saga and made it the smash hit it is

@richardhearn1579

Ай бұрын

It amazes me how many people seem to have forgotten this. Glad you're one of the few that remembered.

This is the same guy that cast his daughter, the live action avatar movie as Katara. this is Nicola Peltz’s father. He is a terrible person honestly and so is she.

@svenm4740

Ай бұрын

That gives one more reason for this Bad movie

Fieges record is producing the most successful movie franchise of all time

Which marvel film had an all black cast 🤔

@RAK_Media

Ай бұрын

Black Panther/Wakanda Forever

@Lifeof728

Ай бұрын

None.

@davidjames579

Ай бұрын

​@@RAK_MediaMartin Freeman not Morgan Freeman

@dominiqueblock7143

Ай бұрын

​@@RAK_MediaNegative. You have two White males in Black Panther. The sequel had Latinos and Native Americans. There has not been an all Black Marvel movie.

@RAK_Media

Ай бұрын

@dominiqueblock7143 oh i know that, I'm just saying that this guy they are talking about perceives that movie to be an all black cast, showing how off base he is

Peltz use his power once on a film. It turned out to be one of worst film m.night has ever made. It was so bad the fan base denies it existence.

@davidthirugnanakumar7888

Ай бұрын

which he also put his own daughter in it lmao

@2nd_Variable

Ай бұрын

@@davidthirugnanakumar7888 lol exactly

We just need people in charge that are actually passionate about comics and can adapt these great stories. There are plenty of diverse characters in the source material, use them.

Did John forget black panther 2 was female led?

And replace Feige with who exactly? Whoever takes over Feige has to be all in and have a vision of an overall story. We all know that there will be someone who takes over Feige's job one day, and hopefully by that time they have someone that can get the hype to days of the infinity saga. But I don't see Feige leaving, at least not for another 2-3 years, depending on how Fantastic four does, and the kind of direction the rest of the films go.

@Galactic123

Ай бұрын

@@somebody9648Perlmutter fucking sucks. He was responsible for the worst of the MCU. Agents of SHIELD's worst seasons we because of him.

As good as Nelson Peltz is at making money, long term, Kevin Feige is better at making money.

@stichhavoc88

Ай бұрын

No he’s not.

“I’m not ready to say that,” because I don’t have that power yet.

Isn't this the same guy who replaced all the native american waterbenders in live action avatar with white actors because he want ed his daughter to play katara?

@SirmasterBruceWang

Ай бұрын

nope, that didn't happen you are mistaken

@jkyle1018

Ай бұрын

​@@SirmasterBruceWangHis daughter did play Katara.

@SirmasterBruceWang

Ай бұрын

@@jkyle1018 so one single actor = "all the native american waterbenders" ??

@jkyle1018

Ай бұрын

@SirmasterBruceWang The guy hates minority led movies, even billion dollar earners. If he produced Avatar and race swapping happened, it should at least raise an eyebrow.

@SirmasterBruceWang

Ай бұрын

@@jkyle1018 Peltz literally isn't even a producer on the movie, Shamaylan is the guy you're thinking of. The fake news is absolutely unreal from you bots

Peltz: "Why can't he be WHITE Adam?"

Blade & Black Panther have been profitable for Marvel. Not sure what Black Lead has to do with anything

@archang3l7

Ай бұрын

Racism. That's what has to do with it.

If Pearlmutter was in charge we would not have gotten Black Panther.

@tonyOn1ce

Ай бұрын

Gotta agree with you there.

@richardhearn1579

Ай бұрын

We would not have gotten a lot of things with Perlmutter in charge and we would have lost Feige a long time ago. I don't think the MCU would have remained as successful as it has been under Perlmutter's rule.

@svenm4740

Ай бұрын

Not just that.

Hmm, so he has a problem with women and black people?! Okay, I see him.

How many black people have appeared on John's show as regulars? Guests?

@zaielpr

Ай бұрын

None he got rid of the black girl

@foodini666

Ай бұрын

@@zaielpr how can it be none by this statement.

@sambradley1256

Ай бұрын

@@zaielprso the answer is not ‘none’ then.

All Black Cast is obviously Black Panther but there were are lot of other races in both Black Panther movies. He obviously hasn't seen the movie(s). lol

@tintedredglasses2819

Ай бұрын

He wanted the African based movie to have no black characters

@chazzerous

Ай бұрын

Ike Perlmutter who is Peltz’ ally didn’t want to do Black Panther

I think black panther 2 is also a female led movie.

@SWACBUZZ

Ай бұрын

Not really I think the actor who played Namor was the #1 in terms of pay scale.

@cl4-tpgaming

Ай бұрын

@@SWACBUZZnot true, and also not what a lead is in a movie, the lead is a character, Namors role was as the antagonist, not protagonist.

@nightryder21

Ай бұрын

​@@SWACBUZZDidn't realize they still made humans this dumb.

@SWACBUZZ

Ай бұрын

@@cl4-tpgaming In Hollywood they call the 1 the person who gets the biggest salary on the cast. In this case it was Lupita then the actress who plays Okoye then Letitia Wright then Martin Freeman. I understand what you're saying in terms of playing the main hero. When you have Namor, Everett Ross, and N'Baku playing big roles it's hard to say it was strictly a female led movie.

I think there are FOUR female-led Marvel films, considering Wakanda Forever, but yes, ridiculous.

@BenJonesart

Ай бұрын

5 when you include eternals

Peltz being who he is, is one thing but, everyone who disagrees with the direction of Marvel and Lucasfilm are not the toxic white racist guys. Sure there are some but, we just want good content.

@stephennootens916

Ай бұрын

The problem is as I see it is that Disney is not thinking things through. If you are going to do a star wars trilogy you need a solid outline of the story your telling and something new other than instead of a dude as your lead you put a chick. You can have a female lead star wars but you have put her in an interesting story and show us something new in this world.

Investors only want results. They don't care about the past.

Im sure Fiege has many faults but there are 2 things you absolutely cant question about him, one is his hat and the other is his record. And the only thing that is open for debate about him, is how to pronnounce his name. That is it.

@stichhavoc88

Ай бұрын

No his choices and lack of success over the last 5 years do bring his tenure into question. As phase 4 and on he was soley in charge with no oversight and we’ve seen the decline in quality, hiring the necessary experienced writers and directors and decline at the box office and viewership at marvel.

If he wanted to make a point Nelson should’ve gone after Star Wars. You just can’t go after Marvel like that. Don’t go me wrong the last phase of marvel has been lukewarm/ hit & miss, but it hasn’t been a disaster. I kind of think you’ll see them turn it around the next few years.

Actually Marvel made 4 women lrad movies because Black Panther lead character is Suri..so with that,rhe average per film is even higher.

@mrsubtlemouth6838

Ай бұрын

4....out of 33. OH MY GOD!!!!!! The horror, how dare they

@soulofanerd9364

Ай бұрын

This is true and that percentage is 12%.....is that something to take issue with?

@user-nw3jl4mm6v

Ай бұрын

Black Widow made 379,7 Captain Marvel 1,12 bill The Marvels 206,1 mill Black Panther 2 made 859,2 miĺl,so per movie they earn 643,3 mill,which mean that female lead movie is very proffitable.

Anyone who doesn't want Marvel movies to be diverse, hasn't been paying attention to what Marvel Comics has been doing for the last, say, 60 years. One of their most popular and longest-running IP:s is about a group of outcasts who constantly have to fight bigotry! Shit-stains like Peltz are essentially the people with signs protesting against mutants in an X-Men comic.

@rockhandrecords1342

Ай бұрын

Not only that, but the two people who built marvel comics were intent on inclusivity.

Technically there are 4 female led Marvel films. Eternals technically counts. That being said, this conversation was just great. The numbers don't lie. Edit: 5 films. Another comment below mentioned Wakanda Forever.

That dude is not good. They should try to push him out

Isn’t Black Panther 2 a female led movie too?

hmmm last i checked the marvels was all women .

@cbeattie778

Ай бұрын

Samuel L Jackson was in it , so not all female lead

@JamesJacksonFilmz

Ай бұрын

@@cbeattie778 How dare you make assumptions of Samuel L Jackson's gender!

@denM-ey3vb

Ай бұрын

What about Ms Marvels father and brother?

@SirmasterBruceWang

Ай бұрын

@@cbeattie778 and he was horribly ruined

@matthewlongstaff5392

Ай бұрын

I kinda feel like campea treads a line sometimes lol. The investor isn't "completely" wrong....

Grandpa Peltz needs to take his decent human being pills 😆😆😆😆

Kris is correct. Nelson Peltz is a get off my lawn person. 😂

@kriscarr4929

Ай бұрын

When people show you who they are, believe ‘em!

@SirmasterBruceWang

Ай бұрын

@@kriscarr4929 I guess we know you're votin red! Biden must be too old!

@kriscarr4929

Ай бұрын

@@SirmasterBruceWang nah, he’s far less get off my lawn than Trump- who literally wants people out of “his” country. 👋🏻

@SirmasterBruceWang

Ай бұрын

@@kriscarr4929 ohhh so age only matters when you're trying to make a point, got it. Biden and Peltz are the exact same age. You don't want illegal people out of the country? You just think let's let unlimited people into the country? Is that sustainable you think for a country? Do you know how many other countries enforce their borders? All those other countries must be evil too right?

@SirmasterBruceWang

Ай бұрын

@@kriscarr4929 you should look up all the countries that enforce their borders and then tell me if you think all those countries are evil

The types of things you say when you hop from insulated bubble to insulated bubble.

Narratives have themes. They teach this in elementary school. Early elementary school.

Idk why but I found Jonathan outbursts kinda annoying this time

You know, I'd respect this guy and anyone else more if they'd come out and just admit that they only want superhero movies to star white males, seriously.😂

You guys know a film has to make 3 times its cost to break even ?

LOL, if Disney fire Kevin Feige this minute, all the studios will line up at Feige's door to hire him. How short-sighted, and this dude is a money invest guy??? really???

@stichhavoc88

Ай бұрын

Idk if they’d be lined up to hire him. Peltz is questioning Feige’s current track record and it’s not good as Marvel for the last 5 years has been on a decline and very noticeably at that.

Great discussion.

Honestly, no need for this dude on any board yet alone Disney. With quotes like that, they should just vote no and move it along. What a schmuck.

The principle Skinner meme in executive form. “It’s the children who are out of touch.”

11:57 Wakanda Forever is also a woman led film that should be on that list.

@ojar91

Ай бұрын

that movie is terrible, They should have recasted tchalla. The character should not die just because cadwick boseman died, that was an emotional decision not logical.

@SirmasterBruceWang

Ай бұрын

@@ojar91 extreme leftist logic is to make decisions based on emotion rather than logic or facts

@xman48205

Ай бұрын

@ojar91 $859.2 million for an illogical decision is pretty good to me. 🤷🏾‍♂️

@ojar91

Ай бұрын

@@xman48205 that made 200 million dollar less that the first one, that’s a decline.

Glad to see common sense and civility is so prevalent in the comments here

Hopefully, people listen to this and not continue to be naive that the individuals that make things happen, think like this. If it weren't certain protection Black people fought for, we would still be slaves. Reparations are owed for this very reason, his view points are shared by his peers as well. He just made his public

Guess what guys, Marvel has had too many failures at the box office the last few years. Something over there needs to change.

@pkthe2ndhokage188

Ай бұрын

Huh? I see one “failure”. Is that too many?

@dwaynecole6636

Ай бұрын

@@pkthe2ndhokage188 The Marvels, Ant-man and Wasp Quantimania. The numbers weren't good for Loki season 2 nor for Secret Invasion on streaming.

@pkthe2ndhokage188

Ай бұрын

@@dwaynecole6636 no one was expecting Antman 3 to do Thor numbers. Considering it did better than Black Atom, it looks like a winner to me.

I bet Mr. Peltz wants Bob Chapek back

@carlthomas5307

Ай бұрын

I was thinking the same thing.

@chazzerous

Ай бұрын

Not likely. Remember Chapek had a very public row with Ron DeSantis that he absolutely did not need to have in public

If Bob and Kevin lose power, I'm boycotting disney and Marvel

@stichhavoc88

Ай бұрын

Ummm dude you think things are any good right now? Cause they aren’t

@king_julian327

Ай бұрын

​@@stichhavoc88Literally at their lowest point. And all some of the peeps wanna blame is Chapek 😂

@saturdaymorningfan3123

Ай бұрын

Disneys lowest point? Heck no. That's 70s to early 80s were no one over 12 was caught dead at a disney live action movie and disney almost died and was almost sold and sold off in pieces! Everyone forgets how bad disney was in pre roger rabbit and mermaid. Black cauldron lost to the care bears movie. This is nowhere near worst they have been by a longshot. Disney has had billion movies like avatar 2 and $800m movies something 70s disney would have killed for!

A couple of opposing forces: 1) Back when basically all movies and TV centered around white males, whites were the majority of the audience. Now that many films and TV shows are moving away from white males, whites are still the majority of the audience. That's bound to hit differently LOL. 2) Back when basically all movies abd TV shows centered around white males, basically all working actors were white males. Nowadays, we've got lots and lots of non-white or female actors looking for work. The proportions are a bit different now.

@chazzerous

Ай бұрын

This is not super accurate though, in the key demo adults 18-49 whites are not in the majority (difference is within the margin of error), and when it comes to who is actually buying things or consuming media the key demo is king.

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