It starts here: 23:08

@balloondestroyer4892

9 ай бұрын

Thank you

@dsrree

9 ай бұрын

I watched the whole video, but you're awesome for the timestamp.

@awang_ir

9 ай бұрын

He, the opponent, is definitely not a subscriber, so why wouldn't we suggest this channel to him?

@eduardschafer3919

9 ай бұрын

@23:10: How to solve the problem, if black plays d7-d6 and Not the rook pawn ?

@eduardschafer3919

9 ай бұрын

I‘ve got it. You just take the queen and win finally the bishop.. great

The casual "my account is getting banned guys," is what makes you a top tier chesstuber

@31088489

9 ай бұрын

exactly why i have subscribed

@Marveryn

2 ай бұрын

what weird is the guy he playing. was playing interesting with that king move

138 wins, 0 losses, 90% average accuracy...BUSTED.

@tianyuguan8939

9 ай бұрын

He is a national master

@blowey-uy7kw

9 ай бұрын

@@tianyuguan8939he's an NM

@iceyroo

9 ай бұрын

@@tianyuguan8939lmao I think he was memeing

@johncee853

9 ай бұрын

​@@iceyrooKinda hard to tell if someone is joking around in this format sometimes.

@danielyuan9862

9 ай бұрын

​​@@tianyuguan8939nah, everyone knows national masters don't exist!

23:10 Clicking on a 10-minute game then sending sleepy emojis when your opponent uses their time as they're supposed to is just brainless. Seriously wonder about some people.

@Blurryface_76

2 ай бұрын

Yes! It has happened to me so many times just because im a slow player.

GothamChess, in his Vienna course: You will never face these Stockfish moves in a real game, I assure you Nelson, first game of symmetrical Vienna: Faces those exact moves lol

@Heroball299

9 ай бұрын

Yeah he was cheating. I play this line all the time as White and it's bad for black, so why would he learn the theory in a losing line?

@SF2K01

9 ай бұрын

@@Heroball299 Because he's 1300 and your average 1300 opponent won't know how to deal with it and thinks its hilarious when it works. He also blitzed out moves, despite playing a rapid game -- as a player he probably just likes quick wins through intimidation and got pissed when Nelson took the time to think about his moved. Not exactly a "serious" player here.

@MrDanielfff777

9 ай бұрын

​@@Heroball299what's your elo

@fuckingSickOfCreepyG

9 ай бұрын

@@Heroball299 probably, but people do prepare gambit lines esp. in that rating range oftentimes you can outbook the opponent and win out of the opening with these lines, although i think that effort is perhaps misplaced when you could learn more sensible lines and you're still sub-1800

@AhimtarHoN

6 ай бұрын

@@SF2K01 That doesn't make any sense, you probably misunderstood the situation - he is not the one attacking with a trap or anything, he is just defending suspiciously well after a blunder in his opening. There is nothing hilarious about surviving an attack with just a minor disadvantage instead of losing, nor there is any intimidation done by this. And as Heroball299 mentions - why would a 1300 learn theory on how to survive after making a mistake in his Vienna opening instead of not doing the mistake in the opening? It is not impossible, but fairly unlikely

Even though opponents get their elo refunded, it’s understandable how frustrating it can be to play against a 2000 player

@tychay

7 ай бұрын

My first OTB rated game was against a USCF 2100. It isn't frustrating, it's intimidating. That same day I saw a scholastic player beat a 1900 player who decided to play the grob (this was back when it was a new, not a meme opening), se sometimes you have a chance.

@MrBunnybusiness

6 ай бұрын

i willingly play against two better opponents daily. some fast games some long games. i know im going to lose more than i win. im better at chess for it if i learn why i lost. feels great to finally win some of those with better tactics and position. highly recomend this and sit in discord after with them and talk about ideas with the game analyisis on, so so helpful and fun!!

@mrblablablabla

5 ай бұрын

I personall would welcome the experience and learning opportunity

I can't believe we haven't ran into a full blown cheater yet.

@mariuszpudzianowski8400

9 ай бұрын

Well we kinda did, Nelson is the "cheater" lmao.

It did occur to me that a 1300 rated account with a 100% win rate might seem a tad suspicious lol

@3bdullah666

9 ай бұрын

ya think 😂

You know you are very good at chess when you get reported for cheating without cheating

@userac-xpg

9 ай бұрын

not really considering he is playing people nowhere near his level. it is kind of cheating since his opponents are all 1,000 rating points below his actual skill level.

@wingman2h

9 ай бұрын

hes literally smurfing against people 1000 elo below him

@Leonhartz

9 ай бұрын

what Nelson is doing is against tos

@awatermelone9436

9 ай бұрын

​@@Leonhartzcc is letting him do this and all the opponents will get their rating refunded

@thewrittenlegalist8110

9 ай бұрын

Titled players are allowed to play against low rated players because their elo gets refunded

That opponent should spend more time on thinking than on chatting and reporting, reporting can be done later.

Hard to cheat when you're doing everything live, and your games are on the channel. But the guy can't know who he's up against. Someone nationally rated like Nelson likely does make a lot of very accurate moves.

@hassanalihusseini1717

9 ай бұрын

Consider the country Nelson's opponent was from.... and you know....

@Saltmineworker

9 ай бұрын

​@@hassanalihusseini1717casual discrimination

@mariuszpudzianowski8400

9 ай бұрын

Also - that guy clearly studied Vienna quite deeply, but when turned out Nelson studied it too it's suddenly cheating. Doesn't even make sense, he should be happy that he got to play someone who knows this opening very well, it's great way to improve!

@Saltmineworker

9 ай бұрын

@@mariuszpudzianowski8400 man, id be salty too, he played great and still got brutalized. But thats chess for you

@scottclark3761

9 ай бұрын

@@09f9 Ah. I love chess, but I have never been ranked. I catch about half the puzzles, but learning more all the time. I think about cheating as using an engine for your moves. Which is certainly not what Nelson is doing. Afterwards, but not before. But if there's something there about it, then sure. I wouldn't say it's cheating, but that's just my opinion.

Nelson, there's no discussion. I've been without internet for like a week and gooosh darn it your videos are soooo chill EVEN WHEN PEOPLE THREATEN YOU WITH REPORTING you're like "oh yeah, but if the queen goes there..." ahahahaha seriously, it's so so nice to relax watching your videos. I just recently discovered Levi's Gotham channel (yeah, real noobie here) but even his laughs can't compete with the relaxing serotonin levels of your videos. Big fan here honestly.

@mrses1987

9 ай бұрын

i also discovered levy but i will never betray nelson

@adamant8435

9 ай бұрын

Nelson>levy

@PauIdenino

9 ай бұрын

Levy is unlikeable

@adamant8435

9 ай бұрын

@@PauIdenino Bruh he's a funny guy and his videos are pretty entertaining. But in terms of educational value Nelson is definitely no1 hands down

@mariuszpudzianowski8400

9 ай бұрын

Saying they will report ain't bad. I had people call me slurs, threaten to kill me and other good stuff. Funny how that rarely happens on lichess, I guess less angsty kids and teens play there.

I like the idea of streaming the live stream and then turning it into a video. Not only can it be interactive with chat which makes it a better learning opportunity but its still as a video so everyone has access to the rating climb if they did not make the live stream.

@ufcfan435

9 ай бұрын

That’s Hikarus strategy and it works well.

@CST1992

8 ай бұрын

Yeah, I love it. It's better than watching those 4-hour runs.

To that last person’s credit I’ve played someone clearly worlds better than their rating and I played one of my best games ever and it was extremely disheartening to lose. He played a strong game.

@depagogd1426

9 ай бұрын

Plus if you don't know your playing an NM, when you see their profile with a 100% winrate, and every game at very high accuracys, it looks just like a cheater

@juleslondon3088

9 ай бұрын

I agree it could be disheartening to encounter a titled player in disguise although some would enjoy the challenge. I also agree that a 1300 with 20 straight wins at 90+% accuracy looks suspicious (pretty unlikely for titled players too imo, although maybe not against very low-rated opponents as here). What I don’t get is why you would accuse someone of cheating when you find they know more theory than you in what’s likely to be their main opening, especially as it’s a much-publicised line by the likes of GothamChess who only has 3 million subscribers many of whom are about 1300… The guy was well prepped in that line for sure but why be surprised when your similarly rated opponent, with the white pieces, is well-prepped too?

@ChristomirRackov

9 ай бұрын

@@depagogd1426 It's very easy to know you are playing an NM (or a titled player of some sort, with a Speed Run account)! It very clearly says under the username: "Authorized Speed Run Account of ChessVibes All points lost to this account will be refunded" If he saw the profile and the win rate in it (which he clearly did, as he reported it), he could have paid a bit more attention and read what it says there :|

bro in the thumbnail looked like the police was at his door for "cheating" on chess

I think the guy who accused you was cheating. He played a line that loses by force if it wasn't for one computer move, which he played. I always find it suspicious when that happens because it why would you spend time analysing a line that loses. I think he got scared after Nelson played the best move because he knew the computer evaluation was bad for him and he got scared.

@leagueaddict8357

9 ай бұрын

It's called a novelty lots of strong players do this.

@Idontwanttoexistt

9 ай бұрын

Nah bro, he played with 80 percent accuracy and position was equal when he started accusing Nelson of cheating, most likely he just studied the line

@Heroball299

9 ай бұрын

@@Idontwanttoexistt Yeah you're probably right

@ThortheMerciless

2 ай бұрын

Except this guy wasn't a strong player.

you see the flag and you know who the cheater is...

i love this vid. thank you so much for walking us through your thinking process. great vid!

you can't tell me you're literally surprised of someone doing that i'd look at their win loss record and be like, yeah right. that doesn't look suspicious at all :)

29:55 It's mate in 4 after Bf7+, as after Kd8 Qxh8+, Ng8 is forced, then Bg5+ forces the other knight to block, then Qxg8 is checkmate. And if Kf8, Bg6+ and Kg8 is forced, and Qf7 is checkmate.

This is one of your courses, because I play this (thanks to you). Great to see you think through this without knowing the line.

Someone sent me a message saying they reported me the other day...i have like a 600 rating and the game had a 60% accuracy 😂

@stevekaczynski3793

5 ай бұрын

It's happened to me twice and I am, shall we say, nowhere near National Master level... Basically I unexpectedly defeated two people and they were annoyed...

Liking this series, good lessons. Love that Caro Cann trap.

I follow you because of your verbal analysis. I also follow Igor Smirnov. Thanks and keep going.

@mrses1987

9 ай бұрын

Igor's great. but I wont betray nelson

@rioricojohn7455

9 ай бұрын

@@mrses1987 I agree. Both are someone to learn from.

37:47 The pawn on h5 will go to h4 (black’s pawn near the queen and this is from white’s pov) making the queen trap impossible; If the opponent plays a move like at time stamp: 37:48 You can do bishop to e3 and fully trapped the queen and it can’t escape unless they do pawn to h4 which deflects the queen temporarily of that queen trap and forces the move of queen to f3 and then followed by bishop to e3.

@FadlySansan

5 ай бұрын

Bce3 hangs b2

14:17 There’s a gamble here meaning you start with rook to f2 check and if the opponent takes then you take with the queen and have a rook vs knight endgame because after the king takes the queen you take the bishop that hanging after the trade you can win if he trades.

Wait, but it very clearly says under the username on your account: "Authorized Speed Run Account of ChessVibes All points lost to this account will be refunded" If he looked at the profile (which he clearly did, as he reported it), he could have paid a bit more attention and read what it says there :/

26:18 You could do bishop to b5 to kill the knight and threaten checkmate by doing queen to d8 but this is a risk because they could fall for this because the see their knight is endangered and will try to move it and by doing so we get checkmate or if they leave then it’s a mate in 3 but also a assisted mate by the opponent or checkmate in 2 if the knight moves and if it fails then, try to create a backup plan; The name of the tactic is called deflection. I mean at 27:46 because it’s your turn.

Your 25 principles to know video has helped me a lot. Just watching that I'm confident you're not a cheater, you have a very firm grasp of the game. Do you have a video about how to make more advanced plans? I'm stuck at around 1050 and my middlegame needs a lot of work

@mattomatt20

9 ай бұрын

What about your openings? Even I'm stuck at 1000. I only know London, king's pawn with 4 knights opening...

@kevingrisler4123

9 ай бұрын

@@mattomatt20 I have been trying to solidify my London for white and the French for black

"my account is getting banned guys" **takes a sip of water**

24:40 - From the move you said was a very good move, also their controlling zzz they sent, then the accusation of cheating tells me from a psychological point of view that the cheat claim is probably a projection on their part. They’re most likely cheating and that’s why they’re not 800 or below ELO. Thing with clusters of certain characteristics is that they’re all very predictable. Oh and a little tip. When you get the zzz’s wherever possible. Take a bit longer to think just to reverse their impatience or attempt to rush you into making mistakes plans. Even if they’re not cheating, if they’re doing things like trying to rush you, they will be prone to mistakes you can take advantage of as long as you don’t let them get into your head and remain the calm one.

OMG THAT FACE ON THE THUMBNAIL THO

@drone231

9 ай бұрын

yes he should change it 😭

Always funny when an Israeli accuses you of trickery lmfao

Yes, that line in Vienna is AMAZING! - black get overconfident thinking it's checkmate but white is actually much better. Qg4 forces to create a weakness (g6) or lose a pawn (DON"T take trapped rook, your queen can get trapped then or black can force queen trade) with huge attack for white, black Queen can get trapped. Plus it leads to absolutely crazy positions where both players can get mated by making just one mistake. Gotta love Vienna.

I love your videos! thanks for cool content

Getting called a cheater: >:( Getting called a cheater in chess: 😁🔥🤩👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

Man I don't know what you do that meshes with teaching my monkey brain. I have learned so much from your videos in comparison to others videos. Much appreciated the way you go about the teaching process.

I've watched several games of Nelson's games in this series where he runs the Game Review after the game and is clearly sur[rised by opportunities he missed. This is not a cheater's M.O. I'm impressed by his calm composure when threatened in public to have his account closed down. I would be too rattled to think straight in a situation like that. -- On a different note, I just want to thank Nelson for describing his thought process so clearly at every step. I'm learning a lot from him.

“My account’s getting banned guys” *sip* *disappointed stare*

If someone looked up your record and the accuracy you play at, it does look like a cheater account. You are rated 1300 here yet your actual level in 2200.

I literally learned how to play chess watching this series from zero, but in 12:35 if instead of nf3 you started the attack with rxf3, and followed that up with nf3 after white took you with their rook, you would have a triple fork to the white’s king, queen, and the pawn.

@ThortheMerciless

2 ай бұрын

It's not checkers - White doesn't have to recapture. Nxf3 is check, so it's more forcing.

Of course someone would notice your 138 win streak and call mods this guy uses high tier bot to humiliate beginners

Small tip from a 2200 who succesfully plays the vienna still: In the third game, after 9. ...be7, best move after you let the engine run to depth 30 is actually Qf5, which is already +1 for white, but with the most logical response, there is already +3, you really should study that line!

@MrDanielfff777

9 ай бұрын

What's depth 30

@Thekaiser4100

9 ай бұрын

I can rarely get my engine to run beyond depth 22 lol

@NidusFormicarum

2 ай бұрын

I always go to depth 35. Interesting! Yes, I suspected that move was more accurate. Not surprised.

Glad you are feeling better

"Technically, I am cheating, but this kind is allowed."

He is not accusing - he noted facts, that you won games with 90% accuracy, that he is reporting - very nice things, and that probably you will be banned - probably everybody does.

He could not have realized from Peter patzer

you're just great for putting a timestamp in the comments and saying where the title happens in the beginning.

Ironic. You have a secure, simple play style. No grand flourishes. Just sensible moves. All in all strength in consistency. Which is hard for lower rated players.

10:13 If the queen goes there then the knight takes and we all know that 2 rooks is has less power than 1 rook and a queen; 2 rooks < 1 rook + queen

@deleteduser8574

9 ай бұрын

Nelson was meaning after offering knight trade. Was looking for a tactic after, and couldn't find it.

Played against that gambit against Caro Kann in blitz recently, very hard and exciting game especially since I never knew about that line. Still won somehow.

I can't stand when people do this, when they just wait the clock out in effort to be annoying.

For a moment there I thought you were going to forget Qg4 even though you had a whole video about it. 😂 By the way GothamChess nicknamed this line in the Vienna the "copycat variation". I play it a lot myself, it's extremely effective.

that last game, betsalelh had so many threats by move 11

Y’all need to stop hatred!! Nelson is a good man so good and wise that he is even willing make lives and videos to help y’all do better! 🤦‍♂️ 😡

@geoffreygeorge999

9 ай бұрын

stop being a kid

Characterless chess players like Betsalelh are just annoying.

At 32:27 I was thinking you check with bishop, then if king moves to b6, bishop e3. The bishop looks free but if they take its forced mate. Feels like something a player in this elo could fall for idk.

I love how you didn't say anything at all and was like ok...

The SunnyV2 thumbnail is amazing lol

Nelsi, you ol' cheat you 😅😅😅

You are playing at a much lower elo than your real life one. He would not expect a 1300 to play like you. So he recognised the much stronger play.

34:06 i can see it as annoying, but this is one of the best games for them to study and learn from. Gotta play people better than you to learn. I think the only reason somebody would think it was annoying is if they don't have improvement in mind. Which if you were playing for fun why would they be looking up your stats in the middle of a game.

Hey man I am desperately waiting for new episode of chess adventure series please make a video on it

must be so satisfying to actually get to spring that classic trap theme in the second game. Ham it up more!

23:10 h5 is theory. I play the this opening a lot as black an am happy to fall for this "trap" as it isn't a trap when you know the line

The delay when you said he was looking at your previous games was probably him cheating

You are literally an NM. You are too good

Nice Game I never doubted you would win your opponent missing the discovery Check with your Bishop enabling you to capture Rook Nice Tactic Opponent made several Blunders you were very concise with your moves Enjoyed Watching Thanks

Didn't show his brilliant move in the last game in the video😢

29:44 on here there is actually mate in 5 after Ke8 its not Qxh8+ its Bf7+,Kd8,Qxh8+Ng8,Bg5+,Nce7 then Qxg8#

I get the frustration from the opponent. It's not just about ELO/Points, it's also about time. If I had enough time to play one rapid game, I would be kinda pissed that I ended up playing someone 1,000 points above me and I had zero chance of winning the game.

13:10 is it better to take the pawn with the rock, and after he takes the rock, you take with the knight in fork the queen?

@danielyuan9862

9 ай бұрын

Nah, white can just not take the rook. Taking with the knight is better because black _has_ to take back to avoid losing the queen, and you end up winning an exchange.

3:28 what about Q f6 aply presure in the khight than B g4

For a second, I was scare that I was the one reporting you :D

i just guessed that Nxe7 was not the best move because you were technically offering to trade while down one point in material

You shouldve put sleeping enojis when he wasn't moving😂

"my account's getting banned guys" *drinks water*

I think it would be a nice gesture for Chess Vibe to give the Betselelh a reward. He had no way of knowing he was on a speed run, he just knew something funny was going on.

@Thekaiser4100

9 ай бұрын

The guy should have taken points off him for that atrocious profile photo

If you were a cheater that’d be highkey embarrassing, like several days or weeks into the climb and only 1300? some cheaters just get to like 2700 after 3 days

I once gave up on chess because of cheaters. I lost to a cheater, rematched him , lost again, rematched a few more times. Then I was playing on tilt, lost 20 Games in a row and abandoned chess for half a year then I got refunded a lot of points because I actually played with 3 cheaters on my last week before giving up and I played one of them for 4 times because I kept rematching. After coming back to chess I got like 250 rating points in 1 month. and got refunded about 60 points. So now I'm higher than ever in my life.

What’s the algebraic notation for the move "report opponent for cheating”?

He forgot he was playing Peter patzer

10:12 "There is a check, queen would block." As white I would rather take the queen with knight Nxd4 instead of blocking, or is there some tactics I am missing?

@deleteduser8574

9 ай бұрын

Think that Nelson meant after offering Knight trade, not looking at the position at the time.

I was once accused of cheating when I was a 700 blitz and found a clever tactic

@NidusFormicarum

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, I was once accused of cheating for finding a couple of advanced tactical moves quickly in the opening where I put my pieces on squares where my opponent could take them. That's a ridiculous accusation, since a 1880-ELO club player certainly can find a couple of good tactical moves on a good day.

It's sad when you can be reported for being good at the game. But that's the drawbacks of being a Master with a smurf account I suppose.

Not that the guy would have known, but it wouldn't matter anyway. If you would go ahead and cheat, he gets his ELO back, if you don't cheat, he gets his ELO back anyway since this is a special chess account of an NM doing a tutorial.

Someone commented "you cheated" after I spotted a tactic and he reported me. I checked the accuracy and I had a 30% accuracy and he did 24%. Funy as hell. We were both 1300 elo +.

Gotta watch those stream snipers now

YOu got to give him credit for realizing he was facing a superior gameplay.

@speedyjet

9 ай бұрын

he was losing id get mad if anyone is better tbh

Im surprised that was the first accusation, wasnt sure if this was going to be from your elo climb lol

Re-upload?

Cheater-Patzer

speedrun accounts give points back if opponent loses - but do opponents keep winning points

@jaivanttitus

4 ай бұрын

You don't get free points- it's only a refund

Is there a chat feature between the players?

@muhammadjuhlan

9 ай бұрын

Yes

You should have the title of Chess Master.

10:36 didn't you have Qxc3 after his Queen blocks the check?

This opponent may have had the Gotham e4 course over the Vienna and you were playing all the best moves. That is probably why he accused you of cheating

@Thekaiser4100

9 ай бұрын

If he had that course he wouldn’t be playing one of the worst lines for black.

@Overkill9991

9 ай бұрын

@@Thekaiser4100 then he probably did not have the course.

13:11 Wouldn't it be better to take first with the rook, and then with the knight?

@planetwastaken237

9 ай бұрын

No cause the white rook wouldn’t take the rook cause then that would allow a fork. When he took with the knight first, he won a rook and pawn for a knight while if you first took with the rook, you’d only win a pawn as they wouldn’t take back.

@b1b2gamer74

9 ай бұрын

No

those crybabies just don't stop do they, i have similar games where in i was confident enough to get to 2500 but they ruin it all for me

That thumbnail lmao