They should use case mounted speakers and microphones that work using induction instead of direct connect. That would prevent water from getting past them.

Working in the materials industry, my guess is the IP waterproof/resistant rating is done with DI or fresh water. I can almost guarentee that its definitely not tested for pool or salt water because of their corrosivity. Glad to see you cover this!

@cocoy1952

Жыл бұрын

Can you explain, please, where the logic link is between corrosivity of pool water and its higher ability to enter the phone in comparison to fresh (tap?) water?

@absurdengineering

3 ай бұрын

There is no such thing as deionized water once it contacts energized circuits. It gets ionic contamination from galvanic action almost immediately. It may just take longer than with pool or salt water, the end effect is identical.

Yet more renewed interest in this video, to watch you explore a phone and how to tear it out. For once not knowing by heart how do do it. This feeling is so familiar to all of us who've once tried to disassemble a phone. Except you do it right, you have this huge experience that tells you where the screws, the clips and the connectors are, and you have the exact right gesture. Us, we keep searching for a while scratching our heads: how does this bloody thing come out?... In a way, it was comforting to see that you too can break something during the tear out. Another very familiar situation to all of us. Except that you know how to put it back and have the tools for this... Great video. Thanks.

I purchased this phone after your review on it, so you sold it to me. One thing for sure I wont be taking my phone diving with me. LOL. Great video Jason. Nice to see how these come apart. Let us know the availability of parts for the BV8800 were. Keep the videos coming....

@johnudo6994

Жыл бұрын

Hi. also thinking about buying one. Hapoy with it? Or prefer something else? thank you

Never trust blackvieuw when they say it's waterproof

I believe the "hole" under the cameras is the pressure sensor not a mic. That would explain the membrane sensitivity... It would be nice to do the same test on the s98 since that one doesnt have that. Maybe it would be "more" waterproof/water-resistant. Also i couldnt find any teardowns for that model... Would be nice to see whats inside and the build mode. Anyway nice video.

Been waiting for this one 🙌

@ststele

Жыл бұрын

A true legend right there! You're doing amazing things with your channel. 👍👍👍 Thanks for still coming around after becoming famous!! 🙏

Best teardown I've ever seen. Thanks! 👌

Great teardown. Many thanx for the content

I will say. back when i was a leak detection specialist. I had an older ulephone armor 7 or something. and i used it quite a bit for an entire summer as an underwater camera documenting structural leaks in pools/water parks and such. and it never had any issues. After seeing this, if i do get one of these phones. i will probably just use that old one as my underwater camera.

@ambsweet72as

Жыл бұрын

Do you know of a current waterproof phone that has a good camera underwater it was a good battery and a good operating system

Holly shit man. Thank you. I just did a screen replacement and your video was priceless. Thanks a million

I always enjoy working on out of the norm products like this. Good, careful, disassembly.

@ststele

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! :-)

Water pressure at one foot of depth is .443 psi, so at five feet, you have 2.165 psi. Apparently that's enough to blow through that microphone membrane. Phone is probably only waterproof at the surface. Purchase a GoPro for great underwater video. Have a great 4th.

Underwater mode is an app you were supposed to download first.

Thank you for the video, I had to do a screen replacement on this phone and your video helped me take it apart without rippping any of the ribbons and cables.

Famous “last” words…. “Last screw!”

2:55 I think this went unnoticed for so long. "This probably increases our chances of pounding the wrong hole" 😂😂😂 Otherwise really enjoy your videos and get inspiration to do board level repair the proper way! I appreciate you!❤

Paused at 2:45: When I heard the clicking sound I was thinking it was bubbles of air popping out of the microphone opening/grid, and the most likely reason for that to happen is that air is replaced/displaced with something else, which in this case may be water.

@ststele

Жыл бұрын

I believe you're correct about the sound! In longer clips where the phone is brought higher and lower, the clicking changes frequency. The deeper it is, the faster the click gets. Still kicking myself in the butt!

Thanks for your great work. Today i just experienced quite same issue. I used the phone at water park all the day. I think phone was under water for just few seconds a time but it was enough to shut down the phone after hours. Opening it i found water around the edge sealing (on the top right side). Really disappointed but fortunately warming up with hair drier i got phone working again.

Thank you for the video! I was planning to buy this but now I will stay away from it. They have fake marketing. Three years ago I had BV5000 and it fell on a wooden floor from 2 feet and the screen broke but it was advertised as rugged phone. I hoped the Blackview got better over time but it seems now they are definitely fake company with misleading advertisement.

Hey!! Get cracking on that pool!! 😂😂

I do agree that the marketing people should take a pill. The Blackview is a superior phone. It kicks the ass of many other brands, especial y at its price. I think the marketers would do just fine telling the truth about the phone and not make up stupid shit.,

Back in the 80s my mom had this induction sound device for creating talking advertising that used window glass as a speaker, wonder if tech will eventually catch up with solid state lol

OMG You have gotten me to spend so much money, first on equipment but now its getting ridiculous. The envy has hit peak levels,..... I MISS HAVING A POOL! Lol! Fortunately my yard wont fit one so I might be saved on that expense. haha :) Thanks again for the videos! BTW are you using the Quick for all your hot air needs? I was trying to move around a Metric 01005 and Metric 0201 with my Quick and it was blowing all over the place at 1% air flow. To small to hold down without moving it at all. I was able to get lucky with enough flux and holding it far enough away but I am not sure I could do that again without another hour of fiddling around for each one. Getting quite frustrated while dealing with each one, cant even flip them around easily and every once in awhile trying to move them around they definitely go flying into the nether! Also, Any idea why in the heck they use the same numbers for metric *and* Imperial for different sizes of each?!?!? My goodness that is frustrating!! Thanks for the videos!

It's interesting that they went backwards with the construction design 🤔 my bv9800 pro has the microphone glued in to the bottom of the frame on the left side of the charger port so there's no way water can get through, everything that goes to the exterior of the frame from Factory is sealed with white sealant the only thing that wasn't glued was the speaker which had a foam seal around it but since I replaced my screen after smashing it I used 1215 threebond sealant on speaker, microphone , charger port. They done so well on the bv9800 but went backwards on the bl8800 I guess this sums up I will be getting another tried and proven bv9800 as a replacement. Btw when you get a replacement screen get the one that's already pre installed in to the frame for the small difference in price it will save you a lot of hassle because you can just swap everything straight over.

Make a complaint it’s to expensive to not get what they advertised wow waterproof most likely water Resistance

I have a question which is a bit off topic. I am repairing a iPhone XS max with a broken front microphone. I have a lower end and back microphone laying around. Are all microphones the same, Or cant i change one for another?

Question: Hello. I have a Panasonic toughbook cf-u1 computer. It has 2 gbytes of ram, I wrote down 16 chips total. Just wondering if you could upgrade the ram to 8gbytes if possible, and then upgrade to Windows 10. The computer is a handheld, but the parts are much larger than what you work on.

I kept wondering if you were ever going to read the big yellow label that said "battery can be removed by tearing form this side"... hmmm...

@ststele

Жыл бұрын

Lol, oops! More focused on hunching over tripod and keeping camera focused. 🤦‍♂️

Hi Jason. Have you tried removing the battery with a very thin fishing line by cutting the glue strip instead pulling hard on one side... it looked like you were bending-it .

Surgical grade wax, melt some in a bowl, throw your phone in it, waterproofed .

I never have Blackview phone but i have 1 ulefone 6e, that still alive until now (from 2019). I always use that phone alongside my yi cam when snorkeling and hunt some fish, maybe im lucky. Now my armor 6e battery is puffed, and no one in indonesia sell battery for this phone. First i wanna try bl8800, but if that phone not sealed enough, i wanna see other rugged phone. And it interesting that bv8800 open from back, my armor 6e open form lcd.

@samueltony4328

Жыл бұрын

ulefone armor 11T

I was enjoying the video until where the water enter the microphone location in which all these phone companies that said!! they are "waterproof" which would be consider as a false advertisement. I would never pay a lot money!! They just not worth that kind of price when these phone are not what they say.

SAME PROBLEM, but I really don't deserve it! I have the same model, I loved it and I never took it for a swim. My earpiece got really quiet and I tried to wash it. A streem of water didn't work so I placed it in a bowl of water to soak it. 10 minutes and it was all wet inside. I turned it off, took appart and dried over a fireplace for over 5 hours. My screen went bad in the same fashion as yours, you didn't brake it. Today I took the display off and took a look under a microscope all around the circuits. I do mot see any water damage on any component or a trace, the damage must be internal to the screen. I am waiting for the followup.

Also, different temperature will affect its "waterproof" rate...

Hey have u tryed the BL8800 pro underwater

After this what phone do you recommend that can be used underwater?

You can fix water damaged phones with rice.

@ststele

Жыл бұрын

I'm gonna see if rice will take care of the screen problem! Lol

@sodderbridge

Жыл бұрын

@@ststele Make sure to use "Paul's fix-a-fone rice" from Australia.

@bblod4896

Жыл бұрын

Lay phone on a baking sheet, bake at 350 for 12 minutes, remove from oven and place on cooling rack. Oh shit, that the instructions for cookies, my bad.

@Discretesignals

Жыл бұрын

Which kind of rice? Brown, white, or instant?

11:46 flex cable seems to indicate it's a barometer, not a microphone 😁

@ststele

Жыл бұрын

Oops! Thank u

@Jim_Bo

Жыл бұрын

@@ststele Thank you for the teardown, and water proofing (or lack thereof) demonstration. Also, some bluetooth headsets have microphones, so that wouldn't be a problem anymore... aside from water leaking into the headset, though why would anyone use a bluetooth headset underwater. and I guess, for complete waterproofing, just dip the whole phone in transparant silicone, sealing up every hole and gap. Though it might feel a bit sticky & uncomfortable to handle :)

Can this be said as rain proof sir, because I am planning to use this for my delivery rider job?

Jason, were you deeper than 5 ft. with the phone? Says it's good to 5 ft. Great channel BTW.

@ststele

Жыл бұрын

Thank u! I was pretty close! 4ft.

Hi Jason Yeah I’m the dude that wish they’d make premium phones with removable batteries. All that bs about making phones waterproof therefore none removable batteries is pure BS. Is way of marketing phones to need replacement every two years or so, that you’d buy a new ones.

Myself and my whole family love their Blackview. I think the waterproof idea is a bit stupid as why would you want to talk to someone when your under water. BUT. I would like you to compare the Apple with the Blackview and see which one survives the depths. I would never be stupid enough to go swimming with my phone, but it does survive falls into sinks and toilets where as many other brand do not. If you want to take video under water, buy a Go-pro

@2somer2

Жыл бұрын

All the Galaxy phones can easily handle hours and hours of being submerged in water. The best phones to take pictures and record videos underwater or while swimming are the Sony Xperia phones. People still wince everytime I take my phone out of my pocket to wash it under the tap and add soap as well lol because I can do it like a boss. I wouldn't trust an iPhone to handle that but I think they can do it.

@samjones1954

Жыл бұрын

@@2somer2 you full of it. I had a galaxy 3. It fell out of my pocket into the toilet and I retrieved it and it was toast. I took it to a service shop and they told me it was toast. almost all the mosfets had shorted along with the main chips.

@2somer2

Жыл бұрын

@@samjones1954 yeah I have no reason to lie. Galaxy phones became waterproof since the Galaxy S7 edge. From that point on all of them became waterproof. The Sony Xperia Z1 was waterproof since 2013. I've had about 10 phones since then and they all never leave my shorts pockets when I am swimming whether it was salty water or Sweetwater. Up to you to believe it or not. I don't on Samsung or Sony lol

@d.beaumont9157

Жыл бұрын

@@2somer2 I had a Galaxy edge 7, I had no problems with it and water. But no matter what protection I put on them they always succumb to the riggers of the work place. That's why I'm looking at these so called rugged phones with a FLIR camera to observe the fuses in the substations that we work in. I did like my Galaxy 7 though, still have it somewhere in a drawer.

@2somer2

Жыл бұрын

@@d.beaumont9157 that's the thing with premium glass covered phones. They always find the perfect angle to hit the pavement screen first missing the 25 meters stretch of grass by an inch. They roll and bounce. They jump and turn. It's so fascinating to watch a $2,000 phone proving all the laws of physics wrong. Lol

I've been swimming with my phone's on me since 2013 using my Xperia Z1. Now my Galaxy Note 10 plus never leaves my pocket when I am swimming weather it was on the Great Ocean Road beaches or swimming pools I just wash my phone with tap water to remove sand and salt. The best phones for recording videos underwater are all the Xperia phones with their dedicated camera shutter key.

The "microphone" flex cable says Barometer right on it. It does use the same type of membrane tho, so there is that. Still enjoyed watching the tear down even though the blaring yellow battery sticker was making me crazy the whole time.

@ststele

Жыл бұрын

yeesh, the tunnel vision when I'm recording is painful. I'm more tuned in on keeping a camera focused while hunched over a tripod.. :D

@housinit

Жыл бұрын

@@ststele Hahaha...yeah, I wasn't coming at you for that, just wanted to point it out. Ive tried doing repair videos and I was like, NO FRIKKIN WAY am I able to do this. Way too much to deal with and tunnel vision is definitely REAL. Happens to me even without having to deal with cameras, lighting and coming up with something to say.

@ststele

Жыл бұрын

No worries! I can't believe not only did I not see it while recording, I also breezed past it several times while editing and STILL didn't see it! Lol thanks for commenting!

I take the IP ratings as a guide for resistance, not as an absolute. I have a Samsung Galaxy J4(2018) which has no ratings at all but it has survived numerous drops, full-scale thundershowers in which I got drenched but except for one occasion the phone actually to me it was going to shut down so that I could give it time to dry because some water had gotten into the charge port. Note, I said the charge port not the microphone... For a device with no ratings and a supposed waterproof device there's no comparison.

Electronic devices and water don’t do well together, no device is water “proof”, water resistant at best. I wouldn’t dare to risk my phone anyway. The clicking noise is probably air bubbles escaping (and making room for water to go in), pretty much like the sound a bottle makes when you flip it over

@ststele

Жыл бұрын

I believe the clicking noise was more likely air escaping. Although I didn't see any bubbles (not even tiny ones) the amount of air needed to move to cause such a sound would be miniscule and could have been anywhere in the housing and not just right at the mic.. or pressure sensor, doh!

its matter of luck water proof 2 times i jumped drunk as f into jacuzzi with my iphone 11 pro for atlist 20 minutes and nothing happen but my friends dads 13pro died right after accidantaly droping it into the sink

Nothing beats Ericsson R310s

Using metal to disconnect and pry elements out of the phone hurts my brain lol

Jason you should have got a cat s61

What phone is that never heard of it strange

heya don't untherstand why al these company lie. to bad you have to replace the screen. nice take out love to see more take outs of differant foons and putting them back together of corse

I guess things are easier here in europe where the customers is protected by some consumer law. If an waterproof phone is leaking, then it's not the consumers issue (new phone or money back). I would stay away from China devices. Try to hock it up to some sniffer /network analyzer. Wouldn't surprise me if it connect to some Chinese server on a regular basis and push up some snapshot of your file index, position data, contacts, phone calls, sms, etc. My last China android device did that (back in 2013 maybe) . (Was implemented in the Linux kernel ). But China have gotten a lot of criticism from governments, and telecom companies have boycotted em because of this (the attitude towards the consumers privacy) , so it may have changed now 🤷‍♂️.

They should use frog skin like Polaris does on their air intakes.

That glue is silicone sealant

Hmm i would call it splash proof. It's not a submarine. It did look well made inside, every connector unplugged like you expected. You just need to modify the mic/camera with glued down cling film lol.

@ststele

Жыл бұрын

Somehow missed this comment from ages ago! 😲

@zx8401ztv

Жыл бұрын

@@ststele You are a busy man, i will forgive you ha ha :-D

Guys be carefull, i got the same problem with the Bl8800 Pro so they still didn't fixed it. Luckly the support team is giving me a new one.

@cocoy1952

Жыл бұрын

Hi, Fabian, water intrusion happened to my BV8800 just yesterday here in Philippines. Is there a a global customer service of Blackview to write to? (By the way: My phone was submersed in a pool for 1 minute and one foot (or feet?) Sorry, I am thinking in centimeters🙂

@Fabian-xx9bc

Жыл бұрын

@@cocoy1952 i worde a Massage to the support team, u can finde them online

@Fabian-xx9bc

Жыл бұрын

They i'll give u a new one

Jason you said the water depth was four feet but since I saw you were alone in the pool I would say it was only *two feet.* 😏😁 I will never own a phone like that so it was really cool to see the internals of the device. It boggles my tiny little mind at how small the logic board is and is still able to work like hamster's supercomputer. What are they going to be like in 10 or 15 years? *Thank You* for the video Jason, it is greatly appreciated. 👍

A couple years ago on a Christmas Day I was cleaning the screen off on my IPhone 11 and it ended up in the toilet (clean bowl) I didn’t think twice I grabbed it out right away figured we’ll it’s already wet I rinsed it off in the sink Lysol wiped it down and was still using it till my daughter wrecked her phone now she’s using it I got lucky on that one it still works infact I had to use her phone yesterday cause my iPhone 13 kept dropping calls (8 in a row) it’s only a month old hopefully it’s not a common thing and doesn’t continue to happen

@pipercessna3827

Жыл бұрын

I'm just trying to get my head around you cleaning your screen and the phone ending up in the dunny. That sir is one neat trick. 😁

@WayneSylv

Жыл бұрын

It’s a small bathroom and the phone was in a wallet case with the magnetic holder I wiped the phone off the case into the open toilet it takes a lot of skill and bad luck to make that shot

@pipercessna3827

Жыл бұрын

@@WayneSylv 👍😂

Done that with my iphone xs max many times... still lives

I hope you can test Doogee s98 pro

So, im not gonna lie lol, ive repaired phones before and I trust mine (iPhone 13 Pro Max) it isn't marketed to be "waterproof" it is though marketed to be water resistant up to 3 meters for 30 minutes, I have tested this and it is indeed true, ive seen no signs of moisture intrusion, but I also don't actively submerge it on a regular basis, I will leave it out in the rain for cool weather Timelapses but that's about it, its only been in the pool twice and that was for maybe a minute or 2 of filming total. Only reason I trust my phone is because ive seen how they've sealed it and was impressed.

@ronlevin2339

Жыл бұрын

Apple use a ton of glue to do it, here is no drop

@huntershortrepairs

Жыл бұрын

@@ronlevin2339 oh for sure, like I said, ive had no issues with it

@ronlevin2339

Жыл бұрын

It is a new phone, the only thing that prevent water form going in a glue, witch is about 1mm thick near the face ID, Glue with time will crack and seal will be lost (after about a year, year and half).

10:38 This (very wet) "Microphone" is a barometric sensor. ;)

put the phone screen down on the heater. that should fix the screen issue.

glue would work better than this but it does weaken with time so water damage still happens

this phone is nothing but a morning joke,those brands are just trash

se if yo can get a contract to test underwater rated phones

too deep, water presure made water in, can't be submerged that deep, just a few centimeters probably.

thats why we buy samsung for waterproof my s8 and s9 it steal ...with crack glass steal work on water and never heave problem with water going in as apple heave the best software phone the samsung heave a good waterproof phone

You mow the pool? 🤯🤣😂

@ststele

Жыл бұрын

Lol, not really. This was my first time trying this thing out.

I just replaced my phone screen and then some red spots start showing up what is the problem ?

@pipercessna3827

Жыл бұрын

Sounds maybe like chickenpox to me. 🤷‍♂️ 🤦‍♂️

@jonthecont

Жыл бұрын

cheap copy part used

You'd be better off getting a Samsung or OnePlus.... Both of their waterproofing actually works....

Sorry jason but this phone really sucks, a 6s is more water resistant than that thing

Hi from kurnool Andhra Pradesh India

@ststele

Жыл бұрын

Hello!

@lackyali1110

Жыл бұрын

@@ststele not a waterproof phone...it's very bad design

It literally says on the battery how to remove it :D

That’s the hydraulic sound of your pool clleaner, surprise you didn’t hear it yourself While under there. Steady clic clic clic…

@ststele

Жыл бұрын

I can clearly hear the pool cleaner with my ears. It's not that.

@ststele

Жыл бұрын

Also, click changes with depth :-)

It's better to use a GoPro Hero under water. At least you won't be like me without your important data.

Maybe new update will help ? XD

Must be nice to have a cell phone that gets taken apart by screws

Love you bro, but you know that was dumb.

@ststele

Жыл бұрын

yep... still regretting it! I'm not offended by this comment.

Bangladesh

ya, the sound is the air bubbles escaping and that air space being filled with H20. PS- Every time you use a metal screwdriver to pop connectors I cringe and pucker.... dear lord you're a MONSTER!! PS again- Ever put your phone in a plastic bag and used it? it works fine, why don't they just use a plastic actual waterproof membrane? It still transfers sound vibration but not water..

@ststele

Жыл бұрын

Interesting! I've put my phone in a zip-lock bag many times but never tried to talk on it while in the bag.

click click click click click click click click click click click click click click

I own a BV9800 Pro & am also a tech & I'd NEVER even continplait putting mine under the tap let alone underwater, Seriously Jason you didn't expect it to be waterproof did you cuz I've been fixing phones & many other decvices for decades & know better than to believe a manufacturers claims especially a Chineseium manufacturer.

@johnudo6994

Жыл бұрын

Doesnt matter.......is they say its ip68 or even ip69 rated, at least you expect it will be as good as any other phone with this rating. I had samsungs, oneplus etc phones with ip68 rating, and they did fine under water. Of course not for hours, but taking a photo or video was never a problem. Yes, you are right.....phones arent for underwater usage, but this is just crap, specially for a rugged phone like this with 2 ip ratings. regards.....

😁😁