If you’re laying off 50% of those you hire either your expectations are too high or your ability to gauge people is low

@Richie3Jack

3 ай бұрын

I think this is mostly it. Or just a complete lack of patience. It takes some time to get acclimated with the business and how it's expected to be run. Even people with industry experience, if they've been off work for a while it just takes time to get back into the groove. And people make mistakes. I question his patience and if they repeatedly fail after a while he's probably putting them in a position to fail because he's tested these people and they test well so they can't be completely dumb. And in all likelihood the work conditions and pay aren't very good. That stuff sets a bad tone and people aren't exactly thrilled to come into work for a boss that has unrealistic expectations, no patience, isn't willing tor reasonably remedy the issue and pays like crap with your standard 2-week PTO and other benefits.

@airforcerymer15

3 ай бұрын

I've hired dozens of people and it's true, I fire more than 50%...The problem is you don't really know how they will be as employees till you get them to work...its not just about the qualifications and prior experience

@FrankS111

3 ай бұрын

@@airforcerymer15 I’m an engineering manager and I disagree. If you’re firing over half of the people you hire then either you lied on the job description, have too high expectations, or cannot read people’s personalities. Not everyone will work out but a 50% failure rate is a systemic issue

@airforcerymer15

3 ай бұрын

@FrankS111 yeah exactly if the job is to sit behind a desk and get whatever it is done, done then that's different. Our employees have to drive a vehicle, interact with customers, perform the job, stock parts and have tools for the job. You don't figure out someone's true ability until they do the job. And nowadays, slim Pickens with applicants, nobody wants to work

@michelepayton6922

3 ай бұрын

If you’re doing custom work and getting paid accordingly, there is no such thing as expectations that are too high.

One minute in and I can already tell that the problem is with Tom.

@WISHBONEL7

11 күн бұрын

Can any of the Ramsey people help him out ? .

He is the problem. He's not good at sizing up people. He also needs to make sure that he is paying at least market value to attract the right candidates. "You pay peanuts, you get monkeys."

@patp9819

3 ай бұрын

You mean 🍌 not 🥜

@bryandelcid4065

3 ай бұрын

How did we go from peanuts to monkeys? 😂.

@bhilbert11

3 ай бұрын

I think his process needs to focus and filter on technical skills first. Figure out a reliable way to test for skills then look from those with skill for work ethic and organizational fit. Also some turnover in natural.

@disco4535

3 ай бұрын

Are you a boss? Because youre smarter, or at least have a lot more common sense, than this guy. You should definitely be managing.

@bhilbert11

3 ай бұрын

@@disco4535 Yes I have led a team of 9 full time staff and 15-20 part time folks for almost 9 years.

This guy sounds nice on the phone but I’m 99.99% certain he talks to his employees with disrespect. How do I know? I work for a prick in the custom home building industry.

@ninjarooster9258

3 ай бұрын

I have definitely worked for one of these guys. “Hey can you do A, B, and C?” No, I know how to do A,C,D. “That’s fine” *2 weeks later* “The fuck is wrong with you? You’re an idiot, why’d you tell me you can do this? You suck” Dude I TOLD you I don’t know how!

@brandonfarmer4323

Ай бұрын

Do you work in Atlanta? And is his name Tom? 😂

@josephbarker91

Ай бұрын

Guaranteed it's his way or the highway, which isn't always best.

@igo0di

Ай бұрын

​@@ninjarooster9258 sounds very frustrating

The caller isnt getting high end construction guys , probably because hes paying for lower quality guys.

@MrWolf2212

3 ай бұрын

Bingo

@HelosWorldRailroadReseller

3 ай бұрын

Here’s the thing, they are smart qualified people, but they quickly see no reason to be a great employee. No incentive. They aren’t going to be a leader or make a lot of money so they half a$$ it. Is it fair? No. Is it fair for Tom to get all the windfall?? No. Until Tom changes his structure you can’t expect different results.

@jessepicazo4389

Ай бұрын

I think he actually has to split the job responsibilities and bring in 2 hires one as a project manager and one as quality control because it sounds like they are good at ordering and getting the materials but it's too many responsibilities and small details for one person

If somebody is letting go of 50% of their staff - they are the problem.

@NDcompetitiveshooter

3 ай бұрын

Usually true, but if someone has a business that is seeking to offer exceptional quality and service it takes exceptional people working there to make it happen. Exceptional candidates are difficult to find by definition and many people present themselves way better during the interview process than they actually are. If he just went into building average homes with average workers and could settle for that then things would probably go a lot smoother, but I don't think his personality will allow it. There are certainly other issues in this situation, but that is one that shouldn't be overlooked.

@Tehui1974

3 ай бұрын

@@NDcompetitiveshooter Well, if a business is seeking exceptional people, then he better be prepared to pay exceptional money to acquire and retain them.

@justinmiller2497

Ай бұрын

It was 4 people

Sounds like a local HVAC company complaining that it is "impossible" to find good technicians. Pays a flat $18 an hour. No bonuses, no incentives and the techs have to supply their own tools. Not a worker problem. A compensation problem. Not a personnel problem, it is an owner problem.

@norcofreerider604

Ай бұрын

Yup, I came here to say this. He's probably paying reasonable rates for low end mass construction, but expecting top quality custom work.

@sewerrat7612

9 күн бұрын

Could just be people are lying to get a job that pats well. Where I'm at company starts 24hr for apprentices you'd be amazed how many people Don't think that's enough to carry tools and learn.

@jfkst1

2 күн бұрын

@@sewerrat7612 In a major coastal US city it is not enough. Can make that salary as a gas attendant.

Financial planning is like navigation. If you know where you are and where you want to go, navigation isn't such a great problem. It's when you don't know the two points that it's difficult

@ZoltanKen

3 ай бұрын

People dont understand that the prices of things are never going back down. This inflation is deeper than we think. Those buying groceries are well aware that the real inflation is much over 10%. The increments dont match our income, yet certain investors still earn over $365,000 in stocks and assets. Wish I could accomplish that.

@mfmcintyre

3 ай бұрын

Very possible! especially at this moment. Profits can be made in many different ways, but such intricate transactions should only be handled by seasoned market professionals.

@JasperMaartenHoutman

3 ай бұрын

Some persons think inves'tin is all about buying stocks; I think going into the stock market without a good experience is a big risk, that's why I'm lucky to have seen someone like mr Brian.

@faysdt414

3 ай бұрын

Finding yourself a good broker is as same as finding a good wife, which you go less stress, you get just enough with so much little effort at things

@MeliszaMagalyMezaEspinoza

3 ай бұрын

Brian demonstrates an excellent understanding of market trends, making well informed decisions that leads to consistent profit

At 1:45, Dave asks if they are doing 'office work' and Tom says 'office work'. But then, the call gets into project managers not doing a good job. I AM CONFUSED.

@kaohsiung99

3 ай бұрын

Tom later says, "A couple of project managers and a couple of office people." So, Dave didn't deal with the 'office people'. I understand the whole call better now.

Yeah this guy has a tone to his voice like he’s a nightmare to deal with

The good workers are probably self-employed. The only way to get them to work for you is to give them a great deal, which isn't cheap.

I am so glad I will never have to work for either of you.

@wesjimez2941

3 ай бұрын

Exactly. I would never work for this guy

"50% of my people don't make it, they start doing really dumb stuff" - Sounds like Tom is a drama queen. Every little thing that goes wrong he probably goes nuts.

I agree the sample size is small. There is a disconnect between perceptions. What Tom sees as average. The employee is seeing as perfection. Tom needs to hire people on a short term contract basis before hiring them full time. He may have to cycle through a few people to find the right person.

@Ps7apple

3 ай бұрын

Hopefully the right person sees that it is a short term contract and figured out the company is not right for them.

This man called in and dissed his whole team. These are the people running companies/organizations.

Don’t blame this guy. You never know about people. I have hired several as a small business owner. It is not about pay, it is just that many people are not bright and motivated. This guy is smart, and expects others to be that smart. It does not work like that.

@cashway0420

Ай бұрын

hourly pay doesn't motivate people, he should pay per job or give an over-all percentage cut of each build let them feel like they have a piece of the company and I bet they'll be working harder and smarter real quick

I would guess the people that he is looking for are his competition and work for themselves. After listening to this call, I would not be a Tom employee. Employees should not be afraid and timid to speak to their boss

The right question to ask here is what is he paying? If he’s paying under market, he’s not gonna retain workers

If everybody you hire is an idiot….then the problem isn’t the people you are hiring.

@amireallythatgrumpy6508

3 ай бұрын

The problem is everyone in America is an idiot.

He is the problem. Sounds like he is a hard man to please. Typical small business manager/owner mindset who is overly involved. He needs to create a better culture and learn to delegate.

The common denominator is ………..

@PeaceBeStill-

3 ай бұрын

🎯

I’d never work for Tom.

There’s no business that is more “you get what you pay for “ than construction

@NDcompetitiveshooter

3 ай бұрын

Except there is no guarantee that you will even get what you pay for. You can also pay a lot of money and get shoddy work dressed up and covered up.

@RUdigitized

3 ай бұрын

@@NDcompetitiveshooter that too

All that testing all for a what $17/hr job? Good people expect good pay

@mph5896

3 ай бұрын

There was no mention of compensation

@garrett21

3 ай бұрын

@@mph5896He’s looking for office assistants in Georgia. That’s market rate. Sounds like he needs to reevaluate and get a project manager level role or something.

@PurpleRose8725

3 ай бұрын

I didn't catch the pay rate.

@Shun_Lovette

3 ай бұрын

It’s also called cost of living and being competitive. He can’t pay $30 an hour when all of his competitors are paying $20.

@garrett21

3 ай бұрын

@@Shun_Lovetteyou get what you pay for. His competition probably has the same problem. Less stress having competent employees is often worth the cost.

Who is staying longer and what do they have that is keeping them their. Your HR representative needs to interview those people and develop a list of what foundational characteristics they have,what skills are needed etc.

We have several businesses, start with interior or complete demolition. We salvage the metals, resell the reusable iron, electrical, office furniture, kitchen equipment, etc, and rig out large equipment when necessary. It has been impossible to get good workers for almost every phase of our business, which throws all of the work on our family members, several of which are not available, full time. We teach them to do one thing, tell them to do it, and have everything set up for them to do it, but, when we stop by to check on them, they are doing something different, or just using a different method that will make the job take longer. Occasionally, we find them scrapping an item that was set aside for resale. And they can do an amazing amount of damage to equipment! One guy did $12,000 damage to one rental skid steer, while using it on a demolition site.

I wouldn't work for this guy.

What kind of psycho gives prospective employees myers brigg tests?

Tom needs to use a 'star system' to discern between 1-star work versus 5-star work. They can just go around looking at homes for sale & make it a training activity. Even photographs, videos, and their own shop should provide a great training facility.

This guy sounds like a fucking nightmare

I love how in depth the response is !

"Working genius" oh boy hahah I'm a structural engineer and I have no idea what a working genius is.

@ryand7713

3 ай бұрын

It's a bunch of tests for jobs you usually don't get anyway

You have to find people who can learn fast. Test for that.

There is a lot of reliance on personality testing. Maybe expanding the interview process where it is more one on one or getting another hire to ask the complex questions to the candidate will help give insight on the person you are taking on board. The whole time I kept hearing how much weight the caller was placing on the tests. He even tested himself and decided he was unhappy with the results. If the results are surprising, it might be an indicator that the tests are a soft science and not the absolute truth. Maybe like he said, "they are posers" is possibly accurate. Maybe these are people who know how to beat the system because if they are office people, they might have college degrees and in college it is all about passing the test.

The kind of guy that wants something for nothing... Meaning he most likely isn't paying good with benefits.

I get the feeling he probably hired quality people but they were afraid to communicate with him, probably because he made them feel like they could never measure up. Or he’s a micro manager, which always brings out the worst in your workers.

If you are getting all the losers of your trade (sorry to use that term, but I hope you know what I mean), then it could be one a few things. 1) Your brand is not good enough yet to attract the really good people and you take what resumes you do get and chose what seem to be the best. 2) You are not reading people very good in interviews. In that case, use a recruiter (head hunter). 3) Your systems are not well known. 4) You try to micromanage in a situation you should not. Micromanaging is ALOT OF WORK. Just manage results, that's it. If someone you hire missed trim work or drywall finishing, it's on him to figure it out. He gets to fix it, or take it up with the client. You just sit back and manage the money.

The amount of people in the comments assuming hes not paying enough is a direct reflection of this country's lack of work ethic. Everyone wants something for nothing. In the trades, you earn your wage. You dont step into a high paying job without skill. You demonstrate your skill and negotiate your pay once you prove yourself.

However, from what I can hear, it is maybe not the people that you are hiring that is the problem, it is most likely your hiring process, your expectations and your lack of commitment for providing training. Jumping on a new project or on a new field is a big commitment. If you cannot provide the training then don't hire.

@PeaceBeStill-

3 ай бұрын

Bingo 🎯

A few other factors: What’s he paying people? Because he might not be attracting the level of project manager he needs. Is the owner spending too much time using these evaluation resources before getting them in the field to see their expertise.

If there's nobody out there, then you have to find one that's worth it and train them. Or pay to relocate

Also, his product requires the top echelon of talent and pay in the residential construction industry. He might not be willing or able to pay it.

This boss sounds like the problem

Tom is the person who has the money to do a business but doesn’t have the people skills.

@CroisMoi

3 ай бұрын

We all learn as we go along.

I’m a construction recruiter. We see this all the time. Most of these small business owners suffer from expert blindness, and because they are experts, they don’t know how to interview and train people to work their way, hence him thinking that he’s hiring qualified people, and they are probably qualified, but they don’t think like he does and he doesn’t realize that, no one is going to think like him automatically. He’s an expert at building homes, not building teams. This problem is deeper than just the interviewing process, it goes down to the foundation of the owners concept of what the role is and how it should be done and how systems and processes work together systematically to make the business run properly. This guy is used to dynamic problem-solving, which is why he was qualified to start the business, but many personalities need structure, systems, and process, not to mention this guy probably has all sorts of expectations that he has never made clear to the people around him. He expects people to Divine his will from observing him. I am not at all trying to be harsh. This is super common, and there are some wonderful people who do wonderful work who suffer from this kind of expert blindness that keeps businesses in the same frustrating cycles.

@AmbassadorGroup

Ай бұрын

It’s also interesting that he refers to those personality assessments as “tests“. A true personality assessment is not a pass fail exercise. It’s designed to increase everyone’s awareness of the personality dynamics so they can be navigated well. To think of personalities in the binary is a major opportunity for improvement.

@AmbassadorGroup

Ай бұрын

As others have noted, the owner is the problem. But it’s not unique to this guy. Every owner is the root of any problem in a business.

@AmbassadorGroup

Ай бұрын

Obviously, his interview process isn’t as thorough as it should be, not because he’s not trying, but because he doesn’t really know what he’s looking for.

@AmbassadorGroup

Ай бұрын

I admire his willingness to ask for help in this. Very few leaders are willing to admit that they are not succeeding in their hiring.

Sounds like a jerk I would not want to work for.

After reading the comment section there’s a common thread between the business owner’s perception and the employee’s perception of the situation. People with an employee mentality are convinced that he can’t find and retain good people because he’s not paying them enough and/or he has unreasonably high expectations. This type of thinking indicates that someone has never hired a person and paid them out of their pocket. Once you do you will be singing a different tune. The business owners feel his pain and collectively know the difficulty of finding individuals with adaptive and emotional intelligence to complete the job to the owner’s and customer expectations.

all construction employers want people with 5 years minimum experience, well when all the old experienced guys retired they'll be screwed if they aren't willing to teach younger unexperienced guys and give them a chance to learn and that's probably what's happening here, I bet they're lying and saying they have more experience than they actually do just to get hired.

I'm a farmer, primarily hogs. So glad I don't have employees (my wife and friends help at times). When I was raising certified organic crops, I did hire people to weed the soybean fields, whatever the cultivator didn't get. Hired 2 highschool kids. Had to pick them up, and I think one after 1.5 hours either didn't feel well or didn't want to do it. But the thing that really got to me was we were each weeding a row. I look back, and one of them is holding a weed in their hand, and pulling the leaves off. That's worse than just sitting there! The sad part is, if they actually worked hard, I could've paid $25/hour with the value a weeding operation can provide. I was in my 20's and my back hurt so bad from weeding, I was using a cane in the field sometimes, but I was making money, lol.

Why would anyone take a job where they have 50 percent chance of being fired? It’s work to find a job. Then if are fired need to explain that when looking next job This dude is bad news

Havee you tried handwryting analysis

If I go through a hiring process that tries to Myers-Brigg test me, and genius test me, and all the other crap he said, I'm considering that to be red flags on the employer. I'm a good employee, but I would shy away from environments like that.

Like they said he simply wants it for them more then they do. Firing a “good person” is hard however if they cannot do the work, they’ve got to go. It is a part of being a business owner and you need to work that muscle now because it will be even more difficult to fire a train wreck of a person because you “feel bad” for them.

Project Management is one of those field that lot of experience and qualifications doesn't necessarily translate into being competent. I am a PMP and a PEng and I have been doing this work for the last decade. There is a lot of experience around the table, and while being the youngest, however I can provide better guidance than the project team.

God I love this question

Why is this the case for so many PM’s in the custom home building industry? I know turnover is common & it can be a very stressful, but why are bosses like this so common?

This is very bad. Do not do this. I worked at a company that did exactly this a standard practice. They would hire 3 people at a time, and then lay off 2 of them. Then repeat the process. That was their normal operations. It was horrific for morale. It was one of the worst morale places I've ever worked. The hatred of the company was thick enough to cut with a knife. It was in the air. You felt it walking into the room. It was horrible. Do not do this. If you are firing people consistently, change your system. You are doing harm you can't see, that will infect your business.

At the beginning of the video he’s coming off as an arrogant prick.

@amireallythatgrumpy6508

3 ай бұрын

Anyone with an American accent comes off as an arrogant prick. What's your point?

I wonder if he has misplaced expectations and is a bigger part of the problem. Is the pay commensurate with the skill and attitude he is expecting. Are his employees paid a bonus if the job is done fast but with no discrepancies. Its real easy to motivated when you're the owner and have the ability to reap more of the benefit from these jobs. He mentioned that when these new hires are with other people they get the green light, but not long after being around Tom they're not a good fit.

Am I the only one noticing that home building is a frequent call driver for this show?

I like the new host. Seems like a cool guy

Common sense is now a superpower. Hiring people with common sense is nearly impossible today

@humilis42

3 ай бұрын

jojo-Nope, not true. I have colleagues that pay well. Their employees are NOT bright but well paid. They can’t find smart people who can work well alone without being micromanaged. I get his issue very well. Accept the fact that more people are lazy these days and have no desire to learn. It’s a problem in every field. And common sense is no longer common.

@penguin12902

3 ай бұрын

@@humilis42 If that was true, every business in America would be failing. There's a ton of hard working, talented people out there...but they expect to be compensated, and they won't tolerate BS. If there's drama and chaos in the business they know they can work anywhere...

@lucaslevonmusic

3 ай бұрын

@jojo-uq3sp👏👏👏👏

@amireallythatgrumpy6508

3 ай бұрын

Every business in America IS failing@@penguin12902

oooh, hand up, pick me, I know, the problem is a perfectionist boss who expects people to read his mind and has a my way is the right way attitude instead of poor workers

Stop calling them team members, that's a phoney way of saying employees. If we're on the team that means we all have equal gain and equal loss which we don't

If you aren't spotting the technical problems during their training then you aren't doing the training right. Assessment is a core part of training. You should be showing them how to do it a couple of times and then stepping back and letting them do it and see how they do. If you aren't seeing that they can't do it during the training then I'm guessing they are spending most of the training watching you rather than doing it themselves with you watching them. You also have to accept that people aren't going to know everything when they start. You have to train them. He said there is no-one out there with experience doing what he's doing. Of course there isn't. You have to hire inexperienced people and train them. You can't just fire them after a few weeks because they don't already know it all.

1st to comment! Slow to hire, quick to fire.

It’s hard to find employees with integrity.

Tom wants to find himself to manage his projects and pay him $30/hr. Reality Check, that guy is running his own company.

No one wants to work!..... for low low low pay and pure commission

sounds like he's doing more personality hires and then getting annoyed when they do not know the technical stuff for the job. Plus, I would bet there's communication issues in that office too. He mentioned an employee calling others instead of him for questions so that just proves he's not approachable and they are scared to do something wrong. No one knows that kind of detail about your business after 6 weeks being hired off the street. If you are hiring for the personality/IQ testing, then you need to have the right training program in place to teach them the technical parts of the job exactly how you want it done. Unicorn hires (great people out of the gate) are rare so don't expect to find one so easily.

Dave hit this on the head . This guy is saying they don’t know construction but in fact it’s a quality control issue where he’s not communicated with o them how he wants certain things done . He’s putting that under a category of knowledge but of these are people that are working just fine in other companies it sounds s lot more like they need to be shown his specific preferences and standards . Unfortunately as they tried to get to that this other host jumped back in to all this personality assessment stuff

Sounds like you should hire a woman Project Manager

Why would somebody that has 6 employees put employees through that? I would walk out. All those tests for a construction job? I took those as an RN at a company and almost didn’t expect the job because of that silliness.

So maybe he meets to train them in the quality department....

Is this a recurring problem?

*His voice sounds like one who is highly critical* * Sounds like it's him* *Sounds like he's the problem* *He's blaming other* *He sounds like he's not a good selector / hirer*

Myers Briggs is a junk selection instrument

@amireallythatgrumpy6508

3 ай бұрын

Every selection instrument is junk.

@nugsin4

3 ай бұрын

@@amireallythatgrumpy6508 incorrect

@amireallythatgrumpy6508

3 ай бұрын

What would you know? You're American.@@nugsin4

@shekharmoona544

Ай бұрын

Meyers Briggs is pseudo-science made by two "Self-made" psychologist with one who had written racist books.

He is the problem

Its very obviously him. Sounds like, ironically, he thinks hes just a taaad smarter than he actually is. Hes also very likely too cheap to pay for quality, and then melts down like a snowflake when he gets what he pays for.

Perhaps he needs to be more out there in the field with a team or hire another field manager to direct the team for him.

I have a family member in the home renovation business who says the exact same thing. Its virtually impossible to hire good help these days. I'm not sure this guy is doing anything wrong. There is a serious lack of talent in the business.

They shouldn't have even tried to help him over the phone. This needs boots on the ground.

Is there a control issue here but he’s not in the field himself to train enough.

Myers Briggs has a history people should look up, it's origin is less legit than a Cosmo quiz.

'They dont know what they are doing' sounds like a micro managing boss who thinks he can do everything better.

Clear to see the employer is the issue

So this guy seems to be learning that you shouldn't be putting stock in freaking IQ tests and personality tests. It's disgusting he ever did it in the first place and I'm going to tell you all right now, you don't want to work for a place that puts you through this. I can also tell you right now that the guy isn't a good boss, and I would never work for him

He had a CAT operator that was just too quiet so he let him go?

The owner is the problem. He's excited to hire more people but doesn't get to the point in the interview. Don't worry so much about their personalities unless their toxic or disgruntled. People aren't puppets

Guy is all worried about your personality doing all sorts of fancy tests ... then Dave asks him a simple question about Myers Briggs and he does even know what it is. As everyone is pointing out HE is the problem, he is all worried about personality, if you are building custom homes you want HIGHLY SKILLED TRADESMAN that is just looking to get out of wrecking his body, a 35-45 year old guy that knows his stuff and isn't a jerk and has a decent head on his shoulders, you can teach PM skills in a couple months (although it will take a few years before you can maximize $$ and time correctly) and someone can hold your hand with spreadsheets but if you don't know construction I can't teach you in a month or two. Maybe even restructure the company so you have a Construction Supervisor and a PM and they can work several projects as a team instead of one guy doing both, they are different skills.

Lmao he is the problem! Pay qualified people OR TRAIN people!!

This is how you win the election. This type of tone and message

You get what you pay for

I bet this guy is a micromanager who is expecting high end talent while not paying it

I experience this same thing and I am in a completely different field than this guy. They seem great on paper, they start off well during training and then when it’s their turn to work alone or make decisions they start to behave like they were not trained at all. Maybe the problem is the owner / boss but I’ve noticed that the quality of workers in general is in decline, they just don’t care and when you try and address this issues they say they forgot or didn’t know. Just a bunch of lame excuses from what I have seen.

Am i banned?😊

This guy sounds like Hank Hill

@COOLFOOL1980

3 ай бұрын

He does sound like Hank I tell you hwhat

@PeaceBeStill-

3 ай бұрын

​@COOLFOOL1980 😂

There is no one out there - lol - have you ever heard of training? Like hire some folks as Associates train them for a year, half will fall off and the other half will be rock stars who will get promoted. I'm sick of business owners wanted to be handed folks who are rock stars with tons of experience. If they are rock stars with tons of experience, why would the last place let them go?

@sewerrat7612

9 күн бұрын

Simple if they trained in a smaller shop with lower quality customers (m I need wise) company won't be able to pay what thier worth

All your vetting sounds like shit Ramsey would do.

Working genius test? Really?