This might be an option too. My friend's Father retired and left his business to his 2 sons. While one brother was doing 90% work, the lazy one was taking 80% profit. My friend was trying to fix this for few years. Father didn't want to be the judge and any attempt to talk with "lazy" brother and fix it was a fail. The hardworking brother divided everything on half (tools, cars, everything). He rented a new office and started new company. He contacted all customers and informed them that he is starting new business alone without his brother. Most of the customers never heard about the "lazy brother" and they followed him. He handed his brother and father the keys, and his resignation. Of course the Original company went out of the business within few months. He become the black sheep of the family, but he is successful business owner now.

@ugabuga1361

21 күн бұрын

sounds like my family. dad complains about how my brother is lazy, never answers his phone. i am the opposite. but we get paid the same. confront him about it and says its about being fair. i say ya na ya na ya na. long story short I'm getting a new career. the family business is now my second job.

@secularthinker

20 күн бұрын

That is a nuclear option. It is an honor to be the black sheep in an abusive family

@liberty4392

18 күн бұрын

There are so many people have no conscience or honor. Be fair, treat others the way you want to be treated. Too much selfishness exists in the hearts of mankind. Thankfully about 50% of people in this nation have a sense of what is fair, in my opinion.

@JDAfrica

9 күн бұрын

I did exactly that … was in businesses with my father, who I found out with a degenerate gambler - he was stealing money, hiding profits and refused to give me access to the business bank account.

@TexasRiverGirl

6 күн бұрын

I think this would be the best way to go.

It is so strange how often parents side with the child they obviously raised poorly.

@arberdemiri

26 күн бұрын

Sounds like my mom unfortunately.

@rush8222

26 күн бұрын

exactly my mom

@qkwjz

25 күн бұрын

Also my mother

@weirdnomad8868

25 күн бұрын

It happens a lot

@laurenj.5312

25 күн бұрын

It's guilt! They think they did something wrong to why that child can't "do", "go", "have". No silly parent, that child just made bad choices

He’s gonna try to call your bluff, so you have to make sure you’re NOT bluffing and in turn call HIS bluff.

@michaelplunkett8059

24 күн бұрын

Meet with Dad alone 1 hour in advance. 1 piece of paper. 3 options, big print. He needs to get concept in a calm environment. Then bring in brother.

@roadrunner9622

22 күн бұрын

Absolutely right. Never make an ultimatum until you've first done the internal emotional work to be ready to follow through with it.

@testodude

22 күн бұрын

Exactly. When he confronts his brother, he needs to present a time table, like "you have until date x to pick option 1 or 2. Else, I'm moving on option 3."

@loriloristuff

5 күн бұрын

And the locks need to be changed yesterday.

Take the 10 guys and create a whole new company and leave your brother and Dad worth zero!

@catherinewilke5583

26 күн бұрын

This is great advice. There is nothing that says he can’t start his own company and take the workers with him.

@patriciabarnhart1886

25 күн бұрын

Take a four year bonus in your final pay before you restart with a new company.

@FR-tb7xh

23 күн бұрын

Unfortunately, the devil would be in the details - he can’t invent a new company out of thin air, it takes enormous capital - which he probably doesn’t have unless he sells the company he has. Too, his current company probably has debts that can’t be walked away from.

@BigRed2

23 күн бұрын

@@FR-tb7xh No he can easily get a loan by using the financials from previous company, in fact he could sell all the equipment from old company to new company on a payment plan that is low and takes years to pay off too.

@justinmc415

21 күн бұрын

​@@FR-tb7xhyou can in fact "invent a company out of thin air" for about 300 bucks. Nothing complicated about it

Dave gets emotionally invested in calls from people who are getting screwed

@jamisojo

25 күн бұрын

It makes life fun to set twerps straight.

@JacobsNews

23 күн бұрын

I wish he had asked more questions . If the brother is taking care of the dad . What his role in the company he sounds 70 . Dad's 90 . He is most likely just pushing some paperwork around

@maximumoverload5134

22 күн бұрын

Dave is talking out of his a$$ , look from the other spectrum of this situation, you would have legal rights to the business

@googleuser8740

12 күн бұрын

@@JacobsNews Good point there are 2 sides to every story. If he is looking after real estate and Dad that might be a fair bit of work that the caller isn't appreciating.

4 years not working and getting paid a salary. Sounds like a great deal to me🤣

@georgewagner7787

27 күн бұрын

I would have a conversation the week he left

@thomasdalton1508

27 күн бұрын

​@@georgewagner7787Absolutely. How does anyone allow that to go on for four years?

@leejace

27 күн бұрын

@@georgewagner7787not unless the parents get involved. Toxic parenting is the issue here.

@TzUuup

27 күн бұрын

​@@leejaceyou can hear dad telling the caller to don't be greedy

@bruces2665

26 күн бұрын

why would brother want it to change? he got$$ for four years.

I'd love to hear the conclusion of this situation.

@shericole9540

25 күн бұрын

Me too!

@quincyremington927

24 күн бұрын

Me three!! Must be nice to get a large paycheck and not work.

@Emily38868

15 күн бұрын

Me four

@googleuser8740

12 күн бұрын

It's Texas it ended in a shoot out

@loriloristuff

5 күн бұрын

However- I STILL want to know the result.

I'd get an attorney before they do. Then push forward.

@gregjones1339

26 күн бұрын

This, very much this. I get that Dave gets emotional over these things but his advice is going to get the guy in legal trouble. If you have the money to pay a worker that doesn't work, you have the money to hire an attorney.

@USpatriot741776

26 күн бұрын

Good idea

@marymorris6897

23 күн бұрын

That was my first thought. Gotta get a lawyer.

@dongmingzhu666

23 күн бұрын

Attorney charges you $500 an hour and all the profits will be gone to someone outside of the family

@roadrunner9622

22 күн бұрын

You mean "some off-the-cuff advice from Dave Ramsey" isn't gonna cut it?

I don’t know why I’m constantly shocked at how scared small business owners are of making the right decision, especially with family is involved. Whoever thought this ownership structure was a good idea was insane and letting us go on for four years is even worse.

@vickieclark5931

27 күн бұрын

That's why Dave talks against partnerships. They can definitely end relationships.

@lilolmecj

27 күн бұрын

I am no business person of any sort, but that structure worked as long as both brother’s equally contributed. I think probably it should have been set up differently though in order to avoid problems. What is interesting is how long it worked.

@tuckercase2449

27 күн бұрын

A peaceful Thanksgiving is a heck of a motivator. There are a lot of families out there who don't talk to one another and I think that's where this guy is coming from. But jeeeeeeez I would not have gone into a partnership with family in the first place.

@TzUuup

27 күн бұрын

​@@lilolmecjexactly. There was nothing wrong with it until(according to the caller) the brother stopped wanting to work. People like to leave big details out of stories etc. I bet it's something like the brother moved back to take care of dad. Dropped it all and did it for dad so that's why the dad is on his side.

@TzUuup

27 күн бұрын

​@@tuckercase2449why not? Maybe they didn't think it was going to be something this big

Another option might be to take the workers and start a new company. Shut down the existing company , get a fair estimate of the value for the trucks and tools, then give brother his 49 percent and dad his 2 percent and keep the trucks and tools, Subtract the 4 years wages and the value of his free truck. Once it's done, you have the trucks, tools, workers and customers. for your new company.

Brother has a full time job working on his father’s Will

@Sarahthompson2237

11 күн бұрын

Exactly!

Caller has to remember, without him, there probably is no business since the brother/father won't do anything to run it.

@TzUuup

27 күн бұрын

I bet he's leaving huge details out of the story. Sounds pretty farfetched someone would think it's ok to keep taking a salary and keeping a company vehicle if they're not working

@moonbuni59

27 күн бұрын

He probably feels like he is due it since he is managing the real estate. They are separate entities though so that part should hold no baring.

@pearlbubbles6885

26 күн бұрын

@@TzUuup I believe every word.

@TzUuup

26 күн бұрын

@@pearlbubbles6885 I would believe it if dad wasn't siding with the brother. If we were all that father than we all would tell the brother to get off his ass and go back to work

@jamisojo

25 күн бұрын

​@@TzUuup people might be much stranger than you think.

I'd be tired of that set up 24 hours after it started

With all due respect, Dave has the biggest balls in the business realm 🤣🤣

@sharvo6

26 күн бұрын

Easy to talk tough when you have no skin in the game

@truthsayer9534

25 күн бұрын

Yeah, it’s just business it’s not personal. Emotions will ruin a business.

@carolblair2845

23 күн бұрын

Amen to that, brother!!!

I can't believe this guy put up with this for four years. He clearly need to get a backbone.

He should have had this conversation with the brother about 3.5 years ago. It's hard to get tough when you've set a precedent of weaknesses. Change the locks, order the truck returned or file charges for unauthorized use which will get it seized upon 1st contact with LE. Go to the bank and open new accounts to transfer business accounts without him having signature authority.

CALLER SHOULD JUST PLAY THIS CALL TO HIS FATHER AND BROTHER

@arlenesmith7883

18 күн бұрын

Amen! Hard to believe this happens …but sadly happens all the time in Families !!! Getting paid to hand with dad and check on some properties!!! Omg!

Option four, start a new business yourself, sole trader, and take your customers with you. Brother can be captain of a ghost ship

Partnerships are tough. There’s always one person doing most of the work. Articulated paperwork a must!

@osirismalu3394

26 күн бұрын

And getting paid less.

@kokoskokso

5 күн бұрын

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27 күн бұрын

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27 күн бұрын

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27 күн бұрын

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Change the locks BEFORE having the conversation.

@testodude

22 күн бұрын

and freeze the bank account if the other brother has access.

@Justin-yb2yd

5 күн бұрын

I'm not sure if you guys actually listen to the phone call his brother and dad have 51%. That means they have controlling interest if they vote with each other.

And hire an in-house office manager. 50-65k for her/ him.

@jamiejensen321

27 күн бұрын

Can.

@dustinadair7893

27 күн бұрын

Hire your wife in house office manager 150k a year lol

My uncle had a business. His sons worked for him. One son kept stealing from the business. My uncle fired the son. The son didn't talk to the family. I don't think he came to my uncle's funeral.

What a sweet tempered man. I feel so bad for him.

@ruthlessreid9172

2 сағат бұрын

Perfect example of nice guys and finishing last.

It took this guy FOUR YEARS to "get tired" of that? My gosh!! I wish I had a brother like that!!

Don't tell your brother that you are going to give yourself a raise, just do it and it will show in the bottom line. Tell him you are no longer going to provide insurance to his vehicle, give him the pink slip and tell him to put it in his name. Reduce his next profit check by the honest value of the vehicle. Make sure you give him a receipt for the vehicle and let the DMV know that you no longer have an interest in the vehicle, there are forms for this. Buy yourself some liability insurance to cover if they sue you.

I have my doubts the dude is going to implement Dave's advice, if this has gone on for 4 years it will probably go on.

@TheOmahaTherapist

20 күн бұрын

I agree.

@dmoney8373

10 күн бұрын

I just basically said the same thing.

Dad and the golden boy have a majority vote. Good luck.

@Gruuvin1

26 күн бұрын

What good is it the majority vote if they do nothing to operate the company? The caller has all the actual power, because he's the only one who goes in every day and does all the things. He's the boss.

@Michael-jo9jb

26 күн бұрын

There's no actual contract!

@adamseidel9780

25 күн бұрын

A person who can destroy a thing owns the thing. If the caller stops stops, the money stops. He can then go form a different company and just take all the business.

@jamisojo

25 күн бұрын

Majority vote in an ownership agreement that is not written down. And they don't want to work, so wtf are they going to do?

@bernadette573

25 күн бұрын

@@Gruuvin1 The boss should give himself a bonus, take the best employees, and start his own business without the deadweight.

This is a tale as old as time. One brother has a strong work ethic while another brother gets to skirt by, all the while, the parent does nothing to interfere because that would take work on their part. As a parent of smaller children, when I see this inequality in the dynamic, I am especially hard on the one the expects all the help so that this doesn't happen when they grow up!

And the wages factored in of brother not working for 4 years that the other brother had to take that on that extra work should be figured into that equation. Man. Family business is hard.

A local GREAT very popular restaurant closed. They had a "sell it to the walls" week. The owners mentioned to me that, having had a large family, everyone wanted a piece of the pie even if they didn't work much. So the parents, elderly now, decided to sell and close and retire. Idea: Let your brother sort out what's a fair deal for you and for him. Then take the pile he intended for himself. Fair, right?

@jamisojo

25 күн бұрын

Yeah, I love that strategy with idiots who want all the good stuff.

@genxx2724

24 күн бұрын

@@jamisojo the family members who actually work can open new restaurant to replace it.

It's always a sticky situation when dealing with family. Whether it be business or a will. I think this man really just wanted to keep the peace within the family,and that's why he put up with it for so long, but sometimes you have to speak up. I hope it goes well for him and the family understands and can resolve this peaceably, but I have my doubts.

@JacobsNews

23 күн бұрын

He is also 60+. What's his role at this point . And did dad give them the company to run

The father is telling this son to keep paying the other brother, saying shit like «do you really want to break up this family» ?

@JacobsNews

23 күн бұрын

Dad's 90 guy sounds 70 . He is probably just pushing around some paperwork . 😂

@user-yf6cd9bb8t

23 күн бұрын

The brother is breaking up the family by not doing his share. You don't have to be a doormat just to keep people happy whom take advantage of you.

love to hear how this one played out. I'm thinking early morning duel in the hay loft.

@ASouthernBoyCanSurvive

26 күн бұрын

dude is getting a paycheck still

No way this guy has the spine

@pearlbubbles6885

27 күн бұрын

He's needs an attorney asap to help handle this.

@briangasser973

27 күн бұрын

The guy is upset, but is responsible for this mess. He let this situation continue for 4 years. Definitely needs to talk to an attorney first.

@pearlbubbles6885

25 күн бұрын

@@briangasser973 4 years pay for compensation is fair.

@Ka_Gg

13 сағат бұрын

You can hear it in his voice.

Sell it and start on your own.

@Justin-yb2yd

5 күн бұрын

He would need his brother and father agree to it since they own 51% which is controlling interest.

This was my first company. Always have EVERYRHING written down.

If the caller is in charge of operations but his father and brother have controlling interest in the company, I don't understand how it's as simple as Dave said. He has 49%, his brother has 49% and his dad has the deciding 2% but he said Dad was in his brother's pocket so he would undoubtedly side with brother in this dispute. If he decided to give himself a hefty pay raise could the other two come in and veto that and fire him and get someone else to run the company, putting HIM out instead? I would love to see an update as to how this played out.

@cheezeball6109

27 күн бұрын

With Dave is referring to is a operating agreement of the actual business and if that operating agreement doesn't detail anything specific then it's up for grabs as to what happens. So since the brother basically has the keys and the checkbook and full control of the operations he could pull a coup like they've said. Essentially they'd have to take him to court and fight it out but at that point it would be more wise for them It would force the option that Dave is actually pushing. Business is a lot more than just percent ownership

@megalodon1726

25 күн бұрын

If they don't like what he does, all they can do is sue him. Then the court can force a buyout or sale.

@adamseidel9780

25 күн бұрын

@@cheezeball6109not to mention they have no written agreements so there’s nothing whatsoever stopping him from just founding a competing company and hiring away whoever he needs and taking all the customers. Honestly I’d keep that option in my back pocket before going nuclear. Tell them you don’t want to pay him any more and weight that as an option. Start the competing company without telling them and just start signing customers.

@faizanalvi3932

22 күн бұрын

The solution is to use his end of the profits to buy equity from his brother until its 98% him and 2pc his dad and brother gets no share Thats the right thing to do and wont spoil a brothers relationship

@manyworldsvideo

12 күн бұрын

And nothing is in writing. This is an important point.

Good advice. 4 years not contributing to the business, all he is entitled to is 49% of the profits. You bet the lazy brother will blow his top. Too bad. The caller does, in my opinion, need to retain a business lawyer, if for nothing else I believe his brother will get a lawyer.

Time to dissolve the partnership and start his own business. Let lazy brother figure it out.

So right on!! family and business are so difficult to work with together. Dealing with this right now, and its so hard to do what makes sense financially, yet upsets family. Good advice Dave!!

Love it when it’s just Dave.

@bayoumanbryan

23 күн бұрын

yep me too. i refuse to watch it at all when he has 1 particular female cohost on.

This is a reality show I’d like to see.😅

@veramae4098

27 күн бұрын

💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕

I would LOVE to hear the follow-up to this story.

What a maroon to allow his brother to get paid for more than 3 months without working.

@Kevintendo

27 күн бұрын

Don’t bring the color maroon into this!

@peaceonearthgoodwilltoall4743

26 күн бұрын

​@@Kevintendo,tony probably meant "moron" 😂

@andrew8168

25 күн бұрын

A maroon doesn't know the difference between a year and a month.

@tonycrabtree3416

25 күн бұрын

@@peaceonearthgoodwilltoall4743 No, I meant maroon just like Bugs would say.

@tonycrabtree3416

25 күн бұрын

@@andrew8168 I know and it’s baffling he let it go past 3 months, let alone get to 3 years.

The brother was waiting for an excuse to "work from home". He got one.

I love how you put the family togetherness at the heart of your suggestion which is really such a great choice of options. We do need to grow up and put negotiation on the table and not get frustrated by not doing it. Even when it's hard and conflict ridden

He wants his brother to do all the work and give him the money. Who does that to their own brother? Tell him its over

@MarkFirstList

24 күн бұрын

Yeah, if his brother is going to act like this, he should probably bail.

@genxx2724

24 күн бұрын

Right. He’s been supporting his brother’s family.

@garymelanson8089

19 күн бұрын

you"ve never worked with a nacissistic brother?

Not a business owner but this is good info to know

This is really good. Would love an update!

I worked for a company that was family run, far too many relatives taking out of the pie without adding into the pie and the business went belly up after years of being in business.

Good grief, don’t buy out the brother and father. They don’t deserve a cash buy out. Close the business in that name; set up a new company. Let him keep the truck as compensation. Having family in business with you is one of the most frustrating things that can happen. I know this….. from experience.

Double the callers salary to reduce his brother's portion of the profits. Then write up a legal contract giving the caller majority control. My husband, was a Master Licensed plumber working for the LI, NY family business. His sister was gifted position of President/CEO when dad died. She had been a receptionist and knew nothing about plumbing contracting business. My husband walked away and started his own business and the family business failed..

Lawyer up, change the locks, stop cutting the paychecks, raise your salary to compensate you for doing your brother’s job. No matter what guilt trips they try to lay on you, remind them who is wrong. Never apologize for doing the right thing. Bottom line the entire family disrespects you if they come take your brother’s side in this matter. Remember my first admonition, Lawyer up after doing some research to find a qualified attorney who comes recommended, preferably. Now, spend some time with your father . Lovingly let your father know your concerns without laying down demands immediately. Maybe ask Dad’s advice just to get an upfront and personal discussion started, one on one. You will get a better feel for how things are headed.

He can tell his brother and dad that no one will get paid if he decides he doesn't want to work either. This is nuts that they expect this man to support all of them.

This is advice for a true businessman. A shark can pull this off. If you're a regular guy running a business, your counterpart will call your bluff. You have to be honest with yourself on which one you are before you act.

Is this guy hiring? 4 years of no work and a consistent paycheck, Im putting in my application today!

@JacobsNews

23 күн бұрын

It's probably dad's company 😂😂

@pkmcnett5649

Сағат бұрын

​@@JacobsNewsonly 2%.

@JacobsNews

25 минут бұрын

@@pkmcnett5649 no it's 100%2% was the handshake agreement

So wait how is it 49/49/2 without a written agreement? Whose name on the bank account? the annual report filings? If no one else is listed, that person can take it all.

@JacobsNews

23 күн бұрын

Those hvac companies are all the same. it's all in dads name . He probably just goes to the office and pushes paper around, and says I run this company 😂😂 he has got to be 60+ dads 90

@testodude

22 күн бұрын

@@JacobsNews I'm surprised Dave didn't harp on this. If Dad started the HVAC company and "passed it" 49-49 to his 2 sons with no written agreement, isn't the business still really's Dad's? He might have final say on how this shakes out. The real estate side sounded like a totally separate interest between brothers. Caller might be hosed on the HVAC side.

OMG! The 49 / 49 / 2 partnership structure is the dumbest thing ever.

I envy this guy, at least he has the means to do something. My business partner just changed the locks and cut me off from everything after I repeatedly asked for the yearly 3rd party audits of the financials he's contractually obligated to provide. I was asking for these because I'm 99% certain he is embezzling six figures from me. Now I don't have the means to press charges and get what I'm owed. Get what you deserve man, a lot of us are getting screwed out here.

@pkmcnett5649

Сағат бұрын

That is awful

Yes, I agree with you. 100% force their hand.

So many of us are stuck with these unreasonable and selfish families..

Tricky one with family involved, I think your play is right though. Renogitation of the terms needs to happen, a buy out seems like the correct way to go.

NEVER, EVER do business with family, PERIOD. Been there and done that. SUCKED.

SO GOOD! I’m dying to know what happened!

Great advice

Do you think “brother” might have dad on his side and now own 51%?

@pkmcnett5649

Сағат бұрын

That is what brother is aiming for. The caller needs to work fast.

I wish ee got updates on stories. That would be a cool channel idea. Ramsey updates

I really want to know how this turns out.

Good advice

This is familiar to my son and my brothers business, my son owns it and my brother was doing jobs for cash behind his back and not reporting it. That’s more than likely what is going on here. His brother is using his own personal company truck doing side jobs for cash plus getting a paycheck from the company. Awful.

The appliance end of the deal was always the easiest part of the business compared to the HVAC side.

Wish y’all did fallow up videos on how things turn out.

Working with family is the worst. Love my family, but it is so hard for folks to separate work life from family life sometimes. Seen good businesses go belly up due to one spoiled brother or sister in a family business ruining it for everyone.

It’s these ones that I want an update on, like did he follow through?!

Sounds like the brother that does all the work needs to grow a set and take care of business.

That sounds like my brother when we bought our first truck. Finally went to the bank and closed the checking account and started another

Never knew Dave Ramsey had a show like this. When did it start?

Would love to know how this was finally resolved.

Change the locks and remove all bank information from the office before you confront them. If possible change banks so they don't know where the money is. Have the truck repossessed as a company vehicle(company asset)and get it towed back to the shop.

These guys gotta be in their 60’s… the dad is 90. The brother is basically retiring… just retire him already

This is a sad reminder that when going into a family business contracts need to be drawn up and made legal for the protection of all parties. Thinking everyone is going to be honest and do the right thing is not the way to start a business.

He calls this show but not a lawyer 4 years ago???

So I normally don’t comment but noticed no one else talking about the fact that the caller said their Dad is 90 so unless their Dad had them way late in life the brothers are probably in their 60’s at least. I kept waiting for Dave to ask but he didn’t. Maybe the brother just wants to retire but I agree he went about it the wrong way. Their should have been some conversations about how to accomplish that. But I wouldn’t necessarily say he is being lazy. There just comes a time that people realize there is more to life than working yourself to the bone until your in the ground. But again he should have been upfront and said I want to retire or slow down how can we make that happen?

Delt with this same situation a few years ago

@cherrypieforbreakfast1499

27 күн бұрын

Sorry to hear that. How did it turn out?

@AirmanBrown

27 күн бұрын

@@cherrypieforbreakfast1499 It was brutal. I ended up having to cut my family off and one of my family member withdrew thier equity which left the business with no cash. It left me with a business with no clients, employees, no money, and fractured family relationship. Brutal

The problem is he has let it go on for four years. When stuff like this happens the talk should be immediately, not 4 years later.

...And get it in writing signed and notarized!!!

buy out sounds reasonable, but you have to factor in 4yrs of pay.....

would love to see the results on this one

You can tell he isn't going to do anything. He gets pretty quiet when it is time to lay the hammer down. I hope he does what Dave says.

@genxx2724

24 күн бұрын

Even a timid person can stop working and let the whole thing implode.

"It speaks to his lack of character". True Dave. But this situation also speak to this guy's lack of backbone. 4 YEARS of free salary? Now he's finally breaking down. Me and my brother are extremely close, like besties and this would never fly. Maybe 1 year just because of the pandemic but this has gone on way too long.

Damn, go DAVE🤗

Only I would not say it that way, Dave. A gentle word turneth away wrath.

Eat dinner as friends(family,) do business as strangers.

Why not ask brother.....How long do you think I am going to pay you for a job you aren't showing up for or doing?

I guarentee this has been a family dynamic for decades. Something has happened that has triggered this decision, especially after 4 years.

That was great advise!!! Why should one person have to do all the work?

Business is business.

I’d love to know how this turned out.

You need to make sure they don’t have access to the accounts, or it could backfire….big time. I do agree you need to have an attorney in your back pocket before you escalate the situation.