How To Transition From 2D to 3D Gracefully

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Talks about the 2D to 3D South Park is going through right now, comparing it to other 2D cartoons that have made the jump to 3D games like The Simpsons, Dragonball Z, and Studio Ghibli.
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  • @Azxiana
    @Azxiana3 ай бұрын

    All of the shading on every surface is using black as the shade color which is why it looks dirty or "bad". Using analogous colors(maybe F0C08A and F09C89) for the skin tone would help. It really just needs some color theory applied to make the shading look better and most likely could easily be fixed just through a little bit of shader code.

  • @PauLtus_B

    @PauLtus_B

    22 күн бұрын

    Yeah, but I also think it just looks like basic vertex shading which I think was already starting to get outdated in the GameCube/PS2 era...

  • @maxismakingstuff
    @maxismakingstuff2 күн бұрын

    As a guy who dives into making 2D to 3D models every so often, I gotta say you identified a lot of good points. Kudos. So much of making a model work is going through a spot-the-difference until you can't notice things tell the viewer what they're looking at is 3D.

  • @PauLtus_B
    @PauLtus_B22 күн бұрын

    Small defense to Wind Waker HD: the cel shading is definitely still there, but objects are also casting shadows now and there are some other, softer lighting effects. I think Wind Waker HD generally look gorgeous with all those effects working together, but when characters are standing in the shade or with a couple specific lights in the game (most obvious when you get an item out of a chest), the much softer lighting effects take over and it doesn't look as nice. The original definitely looks more consistently good, but I don't think HD generally doesn't hold up.

  • @VAN17INO6
    @VAN17INO629 күн бұрын

    great video! HI-FI RUSH is the best celshading I've seen lately, truly amazing

  • @Dukefazon
    @DukefazonАй бұрын

    It's so weird tha Dragon Ball FighterZ and Stick of Truth laid a pretty amazing foundation for their franchises but in the next game they just threw it all out of the window. Dragon Ball Z: Kakarot looks nothing like FighterZ and The Snow Day looks nothing like Stick of Truth of Fractured But Whole. Games with anime art style are somehow working in 3D, I don't know how they achieve that but they are just great. My favourite is the Valkyria Chronicles games, they are beautiful. And the HoYoverse games look stunning but I don't play gotcha games.

  • @RatchetSly
    @RatchetSly3 ай бұрын

    Another good 3D cell shading example would be the PS2 Sly Cooper games.

  • @DecoderWalrus
    @DecoderWalrus3 ай бұрын

    I feel like 2D cartoon characters always have a hard time transitioning to 3D, but especially South Park bc of its very simple art style

  • @tvgamerstan6180

    @tvgamerstan6180

    3 ай бұрын

    It's just weird to me that people complain about South Park being in 3D, but didn't complain about the 3D graphics in The Simpsons: Hit & Run and Spongebob Squarepants: Battle For Bikini Bottom. Granted, those games came out back in 2003, but even then, I thought the 3D graphics weren't really good in those games as much as I liked the gameplay. That's why it's just strange to me that people are making it seem like South Park Snow Day's graphics are just super awful. It's a bit delusional to me. I also don't get how people call Snow Day's gameplay repetitive when that can be said for literally any game that exists. That's like hoping on Mario Kart and calling it repetitive because all you do is race.

  • @DecoderWalrus

    @DecoderWalrus

    3 ай бұрын

    Rugrats: Search for Reptar still gives me nightmares@@tvgamerstan6180

  • @TELL5
    @TELL53 ай бұрын

    Matt and Trey said that the co-op gameplay is the main reason why they switched to 3D. kzread.info/dash/bejne/mHyGm9iypMrdYpc.htmlsi=pnOTZ-95CivfLdG2 There’s limitations if they try to translate their ideas into a 2D space, so they believed it was better to change the style. But yeah I do get how it looks off and it would be nice if there was more cel shading involved

  • @braml7237
    @braml72373 ай бұрын

    I'm surprised you didn't bring up the 3D South Park game on the PS1...

  • @JosiahPhoenix
    @JosiahPhoenix3 ай бұрын

    I think most of us would prefer them to return to the art style of the 1st two games

  • @SuperFlashDriver
    @SuperFlashDriver15 күн бұрын

    It's this reason every character I've made is similar to how human anatomy would be...I know, not the most creative, but it makes it much easy to transition between 2D and 3D...And again, with my characters being just interpretation of theme park attractions, anyone can make their own design of their own theme park attraction creation and go from there. With other franchises........yyyeeeeeaahhhhhh it's a hit or miss.

  • @spoymusic
    @spoymusic27 күн бұрын

    fantastic content, mate! you’ve got yourself a new subscriber!

  • @NOFRILLS_GAMING
    @NOFRILLS_GAMING3 ай бұрын

    The eyebrows really bothered me for some reason,lol.

  • @fios4528
    @fios452810 күн бұрын

    I always felt like Pokemon did a much better transition to 3D whenever they let other studios make the games (say Pokemon Stadium 1/2 vs Pokemon X and Y)

  • @mattycat_5009
    @mattycat_500921 күн бұрын

    search the kill la kill game ark systems did

  • @NOFRILLS_GAMING
    @NOFRILLS_GAMING3 ай бұрын

    Do you mind if I link to this video in a post I have about this game on my website? I couldn't quite "put my finger" on what all felt off about this game - and you are totally explaining a huge portion of it here. I'd rather link to your video than try and re-explain your work (that would be dirty anyhow). I can email you the link to the site so you can see it first. Good work! Subbed!

  • @tin_sensei

    @tin_sensei

    3 ай бұрын

    Sure! Tell em to check out my channel too if you can! Looking to get more subs and eyes on my stuff.

  • @NOFRILLS_GAMING

    @NOFRILLS_GAMING

    3 ай бұрын

    @@tin_sensei oh absolutely! That's the plan! You hit the nail on the head with this video, and I'm a fan myself. I can't take credit for your work, and the whole reason I even started a website was to spread the love! Thanks for letting me shout you out! I appreciate you! If there are any other links you would like me to include, let me know please!

  • @TheVoiceOfChaos
    @TheVoiceOfChaos29 күн бұрын

    all these issues are fixed in 3d now. Its just that for some reason there not doing it.

  • @desrowfighting
    @desrowfighting3 ай бұрын

    great vid\!

  • @TheVoiceOfChaos
    @TheVoiceOfChaos29 күн бұрын

    Flat shading exist

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