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@ModernRogue Жыл бұрын
🏹 Loose! Watch the full episode here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/aKCam9Nvf7TZlZM.html Merch, magic, and more only at scamstuff.com #prank #stunt #educational
@PaKePo
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@joshua2400
Жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ the sovereign God loves you my friends :" ) I hope you can personally get to to know the Holy Trinity God did a miracle in my life, God healed me of my chronic breathing issues that plagued me if not most nights then every single night for years God did this healing instantly within group prayer over my health
@trevorcarlisle5447
Жыл бұрын
I had no idea Nick Mullen had this type of archery knowledge
@suniljoseph5888
Жыл бұрын
Beautifully done❤🎉
@LoveLove-kr1iv
Жыл бұрын
@@joshua2400😊😊
@RustyNinja100 Жыл бұрын
I think this tech costs like 250 wood and 300 food
@ThatFoolishBoy
Жыл бұрын
Wololo mine now
@hunterkiller1984
Жыл бұрын
@@ThatFoolishBoyresearched heresy so they die instead.
A few centuries of people shooting this way, many wars raged between different cultures across half the globe, and there are going to be comments on how this is not the right way to shoot
@thepsychedeliccartographer5765
Жыл бұрын
Yes because nobody ever used Mediterranean draw / Western archery for those things....🤡😂 i think your logic has some holes here😂
@maple6124
Жыл бұрын
@@thepsychedeliccartographer5765 maybe i'm wrong, but i think you might have misunderstood what he was saying. he was pretty much just saying that there'll always people those people rushing in to say "nuh uh, that's not how you do that, that's bad form, he's wrong" or other similar things. he's not saying that there aren't other ways of doing it
@ld1065
Жыл бұрын
Meh hand combat has come a long way so why not archery?
@bladerunner_559
Жыл бұрын
@@ld1065lost knowledge lookup Lars Anderson
@CTcCaster
Жыл бұрын
@@thepsychedeliccartographer5765 he never said Mediterranean style was wrong. What he saying is, there are many styles of drawing a bow, and thumb ring is not a wrong method of drawing.
@sentinel9595 Жыл бұрын
American archery uses 9mm bullets
@leonardofilho7397
Жыл бұрын
No string, no limits
@SororiaAltria
Жыл бұрын
made me laugh, thanks!
@quintenvoorhees9974
Жыл бұрын
The superior arrow, just can’t be reused
@DendiAli401
Жыл бұрын
And .50 Bmg for maximum damage
@loadnlock357
Жыл бұрын
more like a compound bow that costs $3000 with a mechanical trigger release
@madytinjorj Жыл бұрын
Brooo thumb ring from age of empires 2 makes so much more sense now
@SpicyPotatoe
Жыл бұрын
Oh shit that's cool! Didn't even put that together while watching the video!
@titanayrum
Жыл бұрын
aoe is so good for learning historical technologies. I always have a blast researching the Unique civ techs on google.
@MrRay168
8 ай бұрын
funny i just searched and found that romans and west european civs like franks and britons dont have access to thumb ring.
@ziyad6608
5 ай бұрын
The name of that thumb ring is "zihgir"
@elee9056
4 ай бұрын
@@ziyad6608🤦🏻one of many names
@Marnild Жыл бұрын
That guy looks incredibly canadian, despite all his efforts.
@cthulhuman6162
Жыл бұрын
Ah, have you never heard of the great horse-archer hordes of the Canadian steppe?
@jollygrapefruit786
Жыл бұрын
It's all the red, but the Huns were predominantly Hungarian-European, so Atilla probably looked more like a modern Hungarian man than to a Mongolian like most people seem to assume, though they were an offshoot of Asian-European tribes that intermingled in the steppes, so there was a mix.
@cthulhuman6162
Жыл бұрын
@@jollygrapefruit786 Hungarians are not actually related to the Huns
@jollygrapefruit786
Жыл бұрын
@@cthulhuman6162 Well no that's not why they're called the Huns but Atilla was born in Hungary.
@cthulhuman6162
Жыл бұрын
@@jollygrapefruit786 I didn’t say anything about the etymology of the word Hun, so idk why you’re talking about that. Atilla was not born in Hungary, he was originally from somewhere around what is now Russia before his invasions westward, but he did make his main camp in the Pannonian basin where Hungary now is. The ethnicity of the Huns is uncertain but they were most likely related to Turks or Scythians, or possibly a multi-ethnic confederation consisting of tribes from both groups. The Magyars (ancestors of the Hungarians who first migrated to Europe) claimed descent from the Huns due to their fame, as did many other steppe peoples, but there is no reason to believe they actually were related. As for how Atilla would’ve looked, contemporary Roman accounts describe him as being short, flat-nosed tan-skinned, and having “small eyes”, which likely suggests a more Asian appearance. Tldr know what you’re talking about before posting
@bryancline8893 Жыл бұрын
Thumb Ring is a technology in Age of Empires II: The Conquerors available at the Archery Range upon reaching the Castle Age. Once researched, all archers (both foot and mounted) are able to fire faster and with 100% accuracy at non-moving targets. It does not affect gunpowder units.
@MasterArkannor
Жыл бұрын
How much does it cost?
@CrnaStrela
5 ай бұрын
@@MasterArkannor300 food 250 wood Pretty hefty in early castle when you want to make tc, villagers, and farms so almost nobody research it immediately. Which is why Tatars who got it for free can afford to be very agressive while still building their economy.
@helixator3975 Жыл бұрын
Interestingly, Kyudo (Japanese archery) also lays the arrow on the same side of the bow and on their right hand archers wear a leather glove with a notch in the thumb
@randomdude4136
Жыл бұрын
Samurai were also primarily horseback archers (They actually very rarely engaged in large melee formations), variations of this technique are just nature when shooting from the horseback
@Ren-lx8wv
Жыл бұрын
@@randomdude4136 well early samurai started as horse archers. As the years went on they became competent foot soldiers as well Highly versed in spear and naginata combat.
@ramonsalvaleon2616
11 ай бұрын
Actually the samurais learned from the ainu tribe warfare.
@Kaan_is_myname97
10 ай бұрын
Japanese and Samurai are so damn cool man. They are probably related to Central asian people such as Turks, Mongolians way way back
@ramonsalvaleon2616
10 ай бұрын
@@Kaan_is_myname97 Actual the japanese archery learned from the Ainu tribe long time ago.
@eyoutube1 Жыл бұрын
The Mongolians were on a whole different level.
@erimkosker8118
Жыл бұрын
turkish people were the first ones to use bows on a horse
@dustinchen
Жыл бұрын
he's not mongolian
@cryptid414
Жыл бұрын
@@dustinchenbut the technique is, look at the full video.
@Boatsandhoes44u8
Жыл бұрын
Seems useless to shoot that way, I don't care if they are on a horse or not
@marshallmykietyshyn4973
Жыл бұрын
@@Boatsandhoes44u8 Genghis Khan's armies killed millions of people and took over half the world shooting like that, so I assume it works pretty well
@pabloandres1052 Жыл бұрын
So thats why cavarly archers get more acurracy after getting thumb ring in aoe2
@EEEEEEEE
4 ай бұрын
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@benaloney Жыл бұрын
Nick Mullen keeps surprising me with his hidden talents
The classic Parthian shot: Releasing an arrow while facing back from the direction that your mount is going.
@sedatbayrak1598
9 ай бұрын
Sana hangi öküz tarih öğretti, merak ettim. Bu ok ve at üstünde geriye ok atmak tamamen bir Türk işidir. Bunun için koşum takımlarının icadı gerekir ki bunu da iranlılardan çok önceleri Türkler icat etmiş ve kullanmıştır.
@DubiousDubs Жыл бұрын
Mediterranean didn't nock on the left side of the bow either though, that's a modern invention. Look at medieval art depicting archers and it clearly shows nocking on the right side
@Specter_1125
Жыл бұрын
Art shows that they did both. It was personal preference.
@dogrudiyosun
Жыл бұрын
Depends on what you understand from Mediterranean. Here it means Turkic.
@SaifKhagan
Жыл бұрын
@@dogrudiyosunIt doesn't mean Turkic at all. He's referring to those of the Mediterranean. As in the Greeks, Roman's etc. The Turks never used the 3 finger draw.
@dogrudiyosun
Жыл бұрын
@@SaifKhagan he amk he
@SaifKhagan
Жыл бұрын
@@dogrudiyosun ??
@deanharstad5404 Жыл бұрын
It’s tripping me out that every comment section on every short right now is snide and shitty, and they all have like 4 likes, whereas comments on shorts a few days ago had a bunch of actual input and had thousands of likes each. It feels like something changed in the way they sort the comments.
@therelatablegamer7012
Жыл бұрын
It does I’ve noticed that too
@michaelnace5490
Жыл бұрын
Ong I’m tryna chill with shorts while I download a game and the comments are making me want to start a villain arc
@celestialsalamander Жыл бұрын
this is a upgrade in AoE II.
@nostalji75
Жыл бұрын
Makes sense now why Britons don't have thumbring. Not sure about some other civs though.
@davidav8orpflanz561 Жыл бұрын
Few people know he was also an excellent horse back riding archer -TOM THUMB!
@BrotherCarver Жыл бұрын
Historically, archery has been done with the arrow on the right side of the bow, it's only recently with stationary archery that we see the arrow being used on the left side. These releases aren't much different in a historical context, or at least not with the reasoning he gave.
@Likexner
Жыл бұрын
No. Historically, they put the arrow on either side.
@BrotherCarver
Жыл бұрын
@@Likexner You can see it in Medieval paintings, both recreated and original, that the arrows cross over the right side of the bow. It even makes more sense just from a logical standpoint, putting the arrow on the right side of the bow requires the archer to use both eyes to assess his target, which would have given archers a greater sense for depth, especially in closer combat. In Medieval warfare this was done since archers were generally much closer to the infantry than you'd think, they couldn't feasibly use modern standards for stationary archery since they were actively a part of the battle and stationary archery is just too slow and inflexible for that level of combat. Bringing that point home, we know that Medieval archers would often keep spare arrows in their bow hand, grabbing them with their free hand and rapidly firing them, which is most comfortable to do when the arrow is knocked on the right of the bow. Even with Mongols, it's reasonable to extrapolate that they did the same thing since they heavily used mounted archers, and like the video says, you can't easily stabilize a bow on the left side when on a horse. It's generally reasonable to assume that slinging the arrow on the left side of the bow is a modern creation since it almost entirely relies on sporting conditions.
@Likexner
Жыл бұрын
@@BrotherCarver There are paintings that depict archers putting the arrow on either side.
@BrotherCarver
Жыл бұрын
@@Likexner Oh, yeah I misread your comment. I meant that humans generally favored knocking the bow from the right historically, not that they only did that for the entirety of history until the modern day. Assuming I meant that knocking exclusively on the right of the bow was historically accurate is a little bit silly.
@skyereave9454
6 ай бұрын
@@BrotherCarverI've also seen traditional African hunting tribes have it predominantly on the left. And as they've been doing it for who knows how many generations, it's interesting that they do it that way. (The knuckle side I mean). A little extra perspective I suppose.
@thelonewrangler1008 Жыл бұрын
I was in Malta many years ago and paid $40 murican dollars for a very different "Mediterranean draw"😂🤷♂️
@franksalot114 Жыл бұрын
Good Cossack man
@darkerby9595 Жыл бұрын
I love trivia like this.
@David_Quinn_Photography Жыл бұрын
Now I am currious I gotta try shooting this way.
@Arthiem
Жыл бұрын
It will hurt at first. Do a light bow first.
@dnm1016 Жыл бұрын
Bro I been a pro at horseback archery since ocerena of time.....
@bidenonabender5903 Жыл бұрын
i honestly belive medival archers also used to put the arrow on the thumb side of the bow unlike depicted in modern movies, but putting it on the knuckle side seems counter intuitive because your arrow has to go over or past the bow befor resting in place which seems like it takes far more time than it would doing it thumb side. i taught archery to my self and now i do it this way after doing it "wrong" for like 3 years, i became so much faster in consecutive shots!
@cnone3785
Жыл бұрын
Quiver placement seems like could make a difference in what may be easier /faster for each person. Some1 may be able to place arrow on either side of bow but may have quiver in bad spot to acc easily
@mikado728
Жыл бұрын
So, thumb grip/ right of bow launch position: the string compresses the arrow at the nock, arrow bends around the bow as it launches, arrow thus clears the bow and flies oscillating wave form, mid shaft, tip and tail with two node points about 1/20 of the arrow shaft length in from tip and tail; faster, more kinetic energy because thumb grip pulls string further than fingertips, it's ~ 3-4" more bowflex potential energy
@TripleTapHK
3 ай бұрын
@@mikado728 That's not a thing. I'm an expert archer.
@mikado728
3 ай бұрын
@@TripleTapHK LOL ! Legend in your own mind; try it, you'll like it. Don't let your arrogant self-righteousness scuttle your learning. Still laughing at you.
@Doom_moose Жыл бұрын
Oh, it's like a hook grip in weight lifting.
@Osama-Bon-Jovi-01
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I suppose so
@Eligus33 Жыл бұрын
I thought I invented that when I was a kid😂
@AdamNisenziSpisak
Жыл бұрын
Well if you did it by yourself without any external influence, you technicaly did :D
@firstswordcorvus7368 Жыл бұрын
Interesting, but still would like to see an actual demonstration at work
@Diz3sty
Жыл бұрын
kzread.infocZ2SgxMep14?feature=share Same technique pretty much
@ModernRogue
Жыл бұрын
click on the original video link in the description!
@lindsey607 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant!!
@douglaswegener6463 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely brilliant
@harvestcanada Жыл бұрын
In dry condition horse Archer of the East were the most fear warrior in the Ancient and medieval world...... .. Except when it was raining or snowing. The composite bow was very sensitive to wet conditions.
@Janibek35
2 ай бұрын
There are ways to make composite bows water-resistant.
@PDilling Жыл бұрын
I can practically hear the archer gatekeepers scream. XD
@TripleTapHK
3 ай бұрын
Real archers are well aware of eastern styles of archery. It's the general public who has no clue about this kind of stuff.
@alexsass6539 Жыл бұрын
Medieval archers also shot it from the right side of the bow
@TripleTapHK
3 ай бұрын
Some did. Not most.
@Janibek35
2 ай бұрын
There is no cut and dry answer on that. There were many different ways to shoot.
@azure_paladin4706 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if at any point in history someone just said screw it and threw the arrow. Killing the target in glorious fashion.
@UwU-235
Жыл бұрын
That’s called a spear
@gradesam6306
Жыл бұрын
there's apparently a thing called plumbata, war darts
@samuelmendoza9356
11 ай бұрын
There is also the Swiss Arrow but it needs a string that wraps around the shaft and tied to its notch. It has the same setup as the amentum used on javelins, they are throwing aid that allows it to act like a sling
@mojoschmee9320 Жыл бұрын
This is the kind of information my brain will load and never let go of...
@SteveSiegelin Жыл бұрын
Okay, seeing you switch the arrow to the other side makes me realize that you're shooting more like I do then most other people. I am a left-handed shooter but I shoot right-handed bows, I always put the arrow on the other side and I don't use sites. It's hard to find a good left-handed bows it's not super expensive so I don't even use the arrow rest, I use the knuckle of my thumb just like you do but I use my pointer and middle finger to draw back the bow. I do not use gloves or forearm protectors because they get in the way when I'm hunting.
@SteveSiegelin
Жыл бұрын
I've also been known to outshoot people with their own bow just by taking the bow and flipping it upside down so that I can shoot it in my left😂
@johnfairchild3421
Жыл бұрын
Just. Hit. What you aiming at. And that Archery
@TripleTapHK
3 ай бұрын
You realize real archers can tell you have no idea what you are talking about right?
@SteveSiegelin
3 ай бұрын
@@TripleTapHK that means that you're not a lefty and you've never gone to the struggles that I do. Try shooting right-handed equipment as a left-handed individual. I have taught myself to be ambidextrous but there's certain things you have to do if you're going to shoot someone someone else's equipment upside down because you can't change anything. I became very proficient at it. I'm just as accurate as a right-handed person with a right-handed bow even though I'm shooting holding my left hand and the bow is flipped upside down. Because of this I can't use the arrow rest, I have to use my finger. Don't dare say that people who shoot are going to say I don't because I've been shooting for over 30 years. I have dropped hogs and deer with my bow. I am proficient enough to make a heart shot. What have you killed with your archery equipment? My lethality is there. I've also cleaned everything that I've ever killed and had to clean game for other friends who have never done it before so that they could learn. I literally grew up in the woods.
@quinnmoore5985 Жыл бұрын
Ice been shooting arrows since I was a little kid, genuinely never knew people used their thumbs outside a trigger lmao.
@gwilliams1776 Жыл бұрын
Most interesting youtube short in a while.
@NS-Sherlock Жыл бұрын
I don't know if it came out of Turkic nations but i guess no one used and mastered it as much. Biggest empire in the world was built with the help of it.
@davidsandberg3109 Жыл бұрын
Today I learned I've always been shooting horseback style
@Janibek35
2 ай бұрын
There is no one horseback style. There are many ways to shoot.
@existentialvoid Жыл бұрын
same for Japanese Kyudo btw. . . we also do 'tsurugaeshi' or - return of the bowstring . . . if you do it right, the entire bow rotates to clear the string from your swordhand
@skyereave9454
6 ай бұрын
Is it the same principles as Khatra or a different intention altogether? I do the Korean style so it has similar principles to nomadic archery.
@mikec4308 Жыл бұрын
I already learned how to do this in Ocarina of Time
@nigsbalchin226 Жыл бұрын
Western archery also placed the arrow on the right side of the bow, resting on the thumb. Placing the arrow on the top of the forefinger knuckle is a modern thing.
@sterlinggecko3269
Жыл бұрын
when I revered the arrow side, it'd kick my shots 2 feet right at 20 yards. unless I did my draw hand upside down, which didn't feel right. I was shooting with bare fingers.
@andrzejgolota6642
Жыл бұрын
this, there are tons of medieval drawings showing archers using the right side
@skyereave9454
6 ай бұрын
@@andrzejgolota6642 Plenty with the opposite as well. I'm guessing it wasn't really a standardized thing. I've actually seen paintings/tapestries where people are doing one or the other in the same picture.
@davidjohn6411 Жыл бұрын
I remember him getting irritated when you dry fired his bow.
@MaxxterDM
Жыл бұрын
Can't blame him. Dry-firing a bow does a number on the limbs, and can, overtime, lead to catastrophic failure. Source? Personal experience. Wrecked the cam bearing on my compound bow when I accidentally dry-fired it. That was on me though for not checking on my equipment; caliper release didn't lock all the way so the loop slipped through. Lesson learned.
@sterlinggecko3269
Жыл бұрын
@@MaxxterDM my cousin had his compound pop on him. the nocks they gave him were too tight, so it chewed up the string. no noticeable damage, though, just a pair of what looked like vampire hamster marks where his wrist got tagged by something flailing.
@MaxxterDM
Жыл бұрын
@sterlinggecko3269 Ooh, ouch. I can only imagine how shocking it was when the string snapped. Glad to hear he got away with only a slap on the wrist.
@Janibek35
2 ай бұрын
And if it's a horn composite bow, it can outright explode for what that's worth.
@commenter621 Жыл бұрын
Hes not "modernrogue" now hes "medievalrogue"
@andrewstrongman305 Жыл бұрын
I was never taught archery, but when I used a bow as a kid I instinctively held the arrow with my left thumb. Otherwise I'd have had to shoot around the bow, which didn't make sense to me.
@TripleTapHK
3 ай бұрын
Either side you put the arrow on, you are still shooting around the bow.
@jackmcmorrow9397 Жыл бұрын
Mongolians said "Hold this L westerner"
@Judge_Magister
Жыл бұрын
The Mongols never reached the “west”, they were cut down by knights since the Mongols were actually terribly bad fighters.
@jackmcmorrow9397
Жыл бұрын
@@Judge_Magister I mean they got to poland, thats pretty far into eastern europe.
@Judge_Magister
Жыл бұрын
@@jackmcmorrow9397 historical Poland lay much further to the east into modern day Belarus, Ukraine and Russia. Modern day Poland was moved considerably to the west after ww2. Its territory consists around half of former German lands. The only European nation that truly suffered some time under the Mongol raids were the Russians but as you can see on a map today there is a good reason Russia extends so far to the east. Vladivostok the most eastward city in Russia literally means “rule the east” as in never again suffer attacks from those nomadic barbarians. Russia used to control much of Mongolia too the same goes for China they striped a large part of the territory of Mongolia as China too suffered much under the Mongols.
@adamhatton7579
11 ай бұрын
@@Judge_Magister I love how bitter you are about an extinct empire. You’re probably descended from one of them.
@Judge_Magister
11 ай бұрын
@@adamhatton7579 bitter about what? I was just stating some historical footnotes. I hail from the Netherlands from a family of farmers and traders so i doubt it. Anyone with a bit of historical knowledge can see the Mongols for what they are, a greedy, sadistic and destructive force who were terrible in building and maintaining an empire.
@Erraddo Жыл бұрын
There are Europeanmedieval depictions of archers using a multitude of methods. Both sides, 2-3 fingers, thumb or no thumb, fingers fown or raised while nocking...
@skyereave9454
6 ай бұрын
Whatever hits the target most often for them I suppose.
@LivingBreathing Жыл бұрын
The hand and finger strength to fully draw a bow held by just the thumb and forefinger...holy
@raytribble8075 Жыл бұрын
Hence the term “plucking” the arrow which morphed into “pluck you” which morphed into… well you get the picture…
@MrRobinprice Жыл бұрын
American????? Ha ha ha ha
@dennsd.6335 Жыл бұрын
This man's accent keeps coming and going like the different hand positions
@vidafterdark Жыл бұрын
What are the different gear pieces called? Finger guards? Ring? New terminology.
@abzerabduabdullah2663
Жыл бұрын
Called zihgir, the thumb ring
@mechatengu7368 Жыл бұрын
When i was a little lad, i got a little toy boy (an actual bow in the sense it doesn't use elastic strings and stuff) and I'd draw that thing liks how this man would draw his bow. I thought i waa doing it wrong the entire time when i saw films where they were doing the Mediterranean draw; i guess there's always other ways in doing things
@Thomas_420
Жыл бұрын
Man my dad made me bows out of sticks and strings and then carve the arrows with 4 fins and I would always lose them because he would have me aim at blackberry bushes and then we wouldn’t go get them 🥲 good memories
@lemagicbaguette191711 ай бұрын
I just read “How to shoot a horse whilst riding a bow.” I need to go back to sleep.
@stuffstuff7711 Жыл бұрын
This man understood the assignment
@Skenderbeuismyhero Жыл бұрын
I've watched modern horse archers in mogolia shooting off the left side of the bow with three fingers
@patrickbueno3279
Жыл бұрын
modern people might practice modern techniques or they are just far apart that their tribes has preference
@Skenderbeuismyhero
Жыл бұрын
@@patrickbueno3279 and ancient techniques and who used them aren't often recorded.
@gabriellockwood2780 Жыл бұрын
That bow looked like the Phrenic Bow from BotW/Tears of the Kingdom
@zereneedmonds3955 Жыл бұрын
Why is it different right after he just explained it 😆 🤣
@baconweave5159 Жыл бұрын
Feel like I fought this dude's ancestors in Kingdom Come: Deliverance
@jowolf2187 Жыл бұрын
My only gripe is that there's no such thing as "American archery".
@jowolf2187
Жыл бұрын
@@LostNEggsAisle-tm5zr No my reason for griping is that American archery isn't a thing. The first nations all used bows, but they used them in the same manner as the Mongols (same grip and shorter bows). So calling it "American" is rather capricious. Furthermore, the bow was not universal in the Americas - the Aztecs, Mayans, Incas, etc. of Meso America and South America largely continued to use darts, atlatls, and spears over bows because said weapons were more effective in the tight quarters of the dense rainforests in their respective territories.
@FirstOfHisNameSolaire Жыл бұрын
Was this a regional thing? Or did all horse mounted archer develop this technique?
@stonedape3285
Жыл бұрын
There are multiple different mounted archer techniques.
@ReepsWasteOfTime
Жыл бұрын
This is a regional/bow type thing. Compound and recurve don’t change much on horse back
@barnabasfarakas7376
Жыл бұрын
It had variations, but it was probably common among steppe peoples. It's written that the Magyars shot like this in the 9. century. 300 years later, Mongolians arrive and do it the same way. Which is not surprising. Riding and archery were the main skills in these cultures, so they had extremely good technique developed.
@sammakesstuff4176 Жыл бұрын
This simple difference in technique combined with their specialized saddles were a game changer on par with the invention of firearms
@BlazeTheDragon19969 ай бұрын
I've been wanting to learn archery for a while now I'm glad I found this
@stevendavis3991 Жыл бұрын
Ummm. I. From the usa and I been using someone else's country style. Wtf
@SnowHoof Жыл бұрын
Couldn't the arrow the part laying on the bow slide up and down the bow if not resting on the thumb? Especially when riding?
@HuchiaZ
Жыл бұрын
Your index finger is pressuring the arrow to the handle and string of the bow in a perpendicular force. So while riding you might have the arrow move away from the handle slightly due to force but it would be very small and you'd likely have counterforce from your handle arm to minimise this further. With the Mediterranean draw you only have pressure on the arrow between the soft flesh of your two fingers on the string, so gravity is the only thing pressuring the arrow. If you shake any part of it the string becomes the fulcrum point of a lever-like movement. So you could pressure the arrow, but it would only keep it knocked since you can't really pressure the shaft -thus the tip still bounces around the string even if you use counterforce.
@bossbullyboy195 Жыл бұрын
When I was a kid I used to rest on my thumb side and draw with the post fletch. After being corrected I had to relearn how to aim again
@LaughingJokerProd Жыл бұрын
Got to love how despite the technology for bow being found in almost all cultures, the way to actually use it differed
@0Synergy
Жыл бұрын
Another weird one is sabres basically every ended up using them.
@sterlinggecko3269
Жыл бұрын
everything is a spear. a bow is just a spear, but the guy you want to stab is way over there.
@0Synergy
Жыл бұрын
@@sterlinggecko3269 bullets are just tiny spears also.
@johnmarquardt1991 Жыл бұрын
Growing up in the US, I used the L.
@NiVoldiza
Жыл бұрын
Growing up in the US _is_ an L.
@PickledPixiePie Жыл бұрын
Oh... Yeah, that makes sense. I've never used the 3 finger crap. I've always naturally shot using my thumb, and I've always had great accuracy with that. However, if my arrows are on the outside of the bow, they go out into "left field". I have to use the inside. However, next time I'm going to try holding it horizontally like a crossbow like this guy does.
@Specter_1125
Жыл бұрын
It’s not crap. The Mediterranean draw works perfectly for what’s its for, and if you know what you’re doing, you can knock the arrow on either side of the bow. Also, holding it horizontally will drastically shorten your draw length.
@PickledPixiePie
Жыл бұрын
@@Specter_1125 I mean, to each their own, but when I try it, crap is the result. It just doesn't feel natural to me.
@PickledPixiePie
Жыл бұрын
@@Specter_1125 If I were a man, I might agree. However, I feel like the female physiology is a lot more flexible when it comes to being able to twist to compensate, like in the case of mounted combat. I could be wrong, though. I just feel like it might not be as drastic with someone's who's more flexible.
@TripleTapHK
3 ай бұрын
Your arrows peel away from the bow because you aren't actually using a real thumb draw to pinch the arrow against your bow. You are just drawing your bow with your thumb which if it works for you it works, but it aint gonna work for horseback archery. Crap results with Mediterranean draw is 100% a skill issue.
@TylerClear Жыл бұрын
Instructions unclear, domed my horse, and ended up a prisoner of war
@amrullahsatria17629 ай бұрын
"Why is ist different?" Well the mongol have an extravagantly huge empire for a reason
@jernejicom Жыл бұрын
American archery looolllll
@AnAmericanMusician
Жыл бұрын
Indians had plenty of archery. I'm not sure what's so funny. 🤔
@okruma625
Жыл бұрын
Indigenous Americans did plenty of archery before the firearms trade took over, and even then...
@supremecoctus3201
Жыл бұрын
Another example of someone who doesn’t know history lmao
@Janibek35
2 ай бұрын
American arrows come in varying sizes. 9mm, 30-06, 50 BMG, etc...
@J.Severin Жыл бұрын
awesome explained, thx. :)
@DangDutHomeboy Жыл бұрын
I do that in Foam Archery. We call it the "Thumb draw"
@bashkillszombies Жыл бұрын
"Why is it different?" He comes up with a cool story. But the real reason is their bows are 1% the power of an English yew bow.
@shanedavid9923 Жыл бұрын
“American Archery” 😂😂😂😂
@bomcuming3007
Жыл бұрын
Yea natives, Like south America north America he didn’t specifically say what americas
@rhondaparr5739
Жыл бұрын
he should be saying European not American
@greentoke4589 Жыл бұрын
I actually learned something off the internet today. 😁👍💯
@makukawakami9 ай бұрын
That explains why kyudo also does this kind of form as well. The samurai were mounted archers way back then
@markabrian1925 Жыл бұрын
Remember when one of the hosts dry fired the instructors bow and he got a bit upset?
@carllachance3512 Жыл бұрын
I will have to try this
@Shepherdd__ Жыл бұрын
Didn't know there was such thing as "American archery"
@VXxTheSlashxXV
Жыл бұрын
That's cause the natives where almost extinct
@SuicideMike5150
Жыл бұрын
American Archery has since evolved to where we have given up on silly string pulling and now we just pull the F’n trigger. 😂
@Shepherdd__
Жыл бұрын
@@VXxTheSlashxXV Wow. I just realised thanks to you that I completely forgot about native americans for a moment (I French btw, don't judge me)
@VXxTheSlashxXV
Жыл бұрын
@@SuicideMike5150 LMAO
@SurfistaEletrico
Жыл бұрын
@@VXxTheSlashxXV Yes, but also no. The natives were not americans. The land was not called america before the arrival of european settlers. 😉
@blitsriderfield4099 Жыл бұрын
oh, careful. you might anger the competitive archery community.
@danielsz8222 Жыл бұрын
Wow i'm impressed unfortunatly very few people know the correct way to shoot an arrow in steppen style Huge respect
@josefstrauss9017 Жыл бұрын
Cancer comment section 4 real
@comosaycomosah
Жыл бұрын
Lol fr!
@christopherfisher128 Жыл бұрын
It's different from Anglo archery. Many Americans grew up learning several release techniques
@cam6202
Жыл бұрын
Yeah they where on a moving horse, completely different bow and style.
@christopherfisher128
Жыл бұрын
@@cam6202 Different from the Anglos yes but the American Indians of the Plains and West/South West were some of the finest horse archers in history and used a different release than either.
@sterlinggecko3269
Жыл бұрын
@@christopherfisher128 because they didn't get horses until after Europeans showed up, so they probably didn't just relearn everything from square one.
@Darkenixx Жыл бұрын
So that's how the Dothraki from Game of Thrones do their bow shooting on horseback!
@erikzorger3311 Жыл бұрын
shooting this way hurts and takes getting used to.
@veraducks
Жыл бұрын
Shooting in general hurts and takes getting used to.
@clothar23
Жыл бұрын
Might want to invest in a bracer if shooting a bow is causing you pain.
@Sam_on_YouTube Жыл бұрын
With the western draw done correctly, you don't need to stabilize the arrow. The string rotates as you draw and pushes it against the bow on the arrow rest. Now if you need to draw quickly while riding, I could see how the thumb side for an arrow rest would be helpful and in that case, the same draw technique would instead pull the arrow right off the bow. So his technique will rotate the string the other way and hold it to the thumb side. You could do an upside down 2 finger grip. That would have the same effect. And it is similar to how you often pull back when using a trigger release on a compound bow. Just gotta make sure you're grabing the string from the opposite side of the arrow and allowing the natural rotation of the string rather than forcing it to be straight. Same principle either way.
@ArcherInTraining2
Жыл бұрын
Thank you this method is just an easy bypass instead of practicing your technique
@c2mewhen
Жыл бұрын
He’s not gonna fuck you
@TheSuperSpud
Жыл бұрын
Especially since historical archers, like those on horseback had most of the time to fire rapidly
@WarPoet-In-Training
Жыл бұрын
I shot competitive archery (bare bow, no sights as well) for years. Unless your using some special kind of arrows, the nock on the end of the arrow would not have enough grip to rotate with the string. Its just not that tight. In addition to that, whether your using a release aid or not, the string doesn't rotate to one side or another when you draw. You're pulling it straight back, not back and rotating in.
@RealHankShill
Жыл бұрын
I cant imagine a time, when riding on horseback, that shooting fast wouldnt be the priority
@JimothyB11 ай бұрын
No need for history when Age of Empires exists
@oliverburton6927 Жыл бұрын
My girlfriend already knows about my Mediterranean drawback 🙃
@miyama8936 Жыл бұрын
Heavy Archers also had the arrow on the outer side since it is easier to draw the bow like that if it has a high draw weight.
@TripleTapHK
3 ай бұрын
Having the arrow on either side of the bow has literally zero affect on draw weight.
@davestir5743 Жыл бұрын
Having the arrow on the thumb side is also easier to nock the arrow while riding, especially when you have to use either hand to shoot your bow as targets on either side of the track means you are swapping which arm. We were taught to use both hands equally since you never know which side of the horse the enemy will be on.
@PrEdAtOr2k Жыл бұрын
It is beautiful to hear something so well explained.
@victoryville1329 Жыл бұрын
This man lost his accent in a second
@holographicpestosauce Жыл бұрын
love it but i’ve seen this video like 3 years ago. new shorts
@woodsy3495 Жыл бұрын
The inventers of the "parting shot". Riding a running horse with no hands and turning to face backwards and sending an arrow at any pursuers. Changed warfare.
@Finnspin_unicycles
Жыл бұрын
Parthian shot?
@Daylen151 Жыл бұрын
drawing with the thumb is better for beginners because they don't twist the string and that's a hill I'll die on
@caseyb1346 Жыл бұрын
I love how the algorithm has decided that anyone who has AOE in their watch history now has to watch this short as well. Sometimes the algorithm gets it right.
@AB-nb2ic Жыл бұрын
Isn't American archery whatever the native American archers did? Lol at everyone in this thread who thinks he's talking about Europeans who moved to America and mainly used guns in combat.
@TVbasick
Жыл бұрын
The Europeans are the reason horses were in America
@tommydashed4205
Жыл бұрын
@@TVbasick Huh?
@74nova36
Жыл бұрын
@@tommydashed4205 horses aren’t native to America dummy
@Janibek35
2 ай бұрын
@@tommydashed4205 Yes. They are largely descended from horses that escaped Spanish captivity.
@nhankhuu5643 Жыл бұрын
It's the superior technique. You get center and most direct transfer of energy too.
@TripleTapHK
3 ай бұрын
Has nothing to do with that. Mongolians even shot from the left side of the bow when on the ground. Shooting from the right with the thumb draw is primarily a horseback archery technique.
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@PaKePo
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@joshua2400
Жыл бұрын
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@trevorcarlisle5447
Жыл бұрын
I had no idea Nick Mullen had this type of archery knowledge
@suniljoseph5888
Жыл бұрын
Beautifully done❤🎉
@LoveLove-kr1iv
Жыл бұрын
@@joshua2400😊😊
I think this tech costs like 250 wood and 300 food
@ThatFoolishBoy
Жыл бұрын
Wololo mine now
@hunterkiller1984
Жыл бұрын
@@ThatFoolishBoyresearched heresy so they die instead.
@WastelandMedic93
Жыл бұрын
Unless you're Tatars then it's free
@kicklock1012
Жыл бұрын
Nice aoe refrence
@perenpuree
Жыл бұрын
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A few centuries of people shooting this way, many wars raged between different cultures across half the globe, and there are going to be comments on how this is not the right way to shoot
@thepsychedeliccartographer5765
Жыл бұрын
Yes because nobody ever used Mediterranean draw / Western archery for those things....🤡😂 i think your logic has some holes here😂
@maple6124
Жыл бұрын
@@thepsychedeliccartographer5765 maybe i'm wrong, but i think you might have misunderstood what he was saying. he was pretty much just saying that there'll always people those people rushing in to say "nuh uh, that's not how you do that, that's bad form, he's wrong" or other similar things. he's not saying that there aren't other ways of doing it
@ld1065
Жыл бұрын
Meh hand combat has come a long way so why not archery?
@bladerunner_559
Жыл бұрын
@@ld1065lost knowledge lookup Lars Anderson
@CTcCaster
Жыл бұрын
@@thepsychedeliccartographer5765 he never said Mediterranean style was wrong. What he saying is, there are many styles of drawing a bow, and thumb ring is not a wrong method of drawing.
American archery uses 9mm bullets
@leonardofilho7397
Жыл бұрын
No string, no limits
@SororiaAltria
Жыл бұрын
made me laugh, thanks!
@quintenvoorhees9974
Жыл бұрын
The superior arrow, just can’t be reused
@DendiAli401
Жыл бұрын
And .50 Bmg for maximum damage
@loadnlock357
Жыл бұрын
more like a compound bow that costs $3000 with a mechanical trigger release
Brooo thumb ring from age of empires 2 makes so much more sense now
@SpicyPotatoe
Жыл бұрын
Oh shit that's cool! Didn't even put that together while watching the video!
@titanayrum
Жыл бұрын
aoe is so good for learning historical technologies. I always have a blast researching the Unique civ techs on google.
@MrRay168
8 ай бұрын
funny i just searched and found that romans and west european civs like franks and britons dont have access to thumb ring.
@ziyad6608
5 ай бұрын
The name of that thumb ring is "zihgir"
@elee9056
4 ай бұрын
@@ziyad6608🤦🏻one of many names
That guy looks incredibly canadian, despite all his efforts.
@cthulhuman6162
Жыл бұрын
Ah, have you never heard of the great horse-archer hordes of the Canadian steppe?
@jollygrapefruit786
Жыл бұрын
It's all the red, but the Huns were predominantly Hungarian-European, so Atilla probably looked more like a modern Hungarian man than to a Mongolian like most people seem to assume, though they were an offshoot of Asian-European tribes that intermingled in the steppes, so there was a mix.
@cthulhuman6162
Жыл бұрын
@@jollygrapefruit786 Hungarians are not actually related to the Huns
@jollygrapefruit786
Жыл бұрын
@@cthulhuman6162 Well no that's not why they're called the Huns but Atilla was born in Hungary.
@cthulhuman6162
Жыл бұрын
@@jollygrapefruit786 I didn’t say anything about the etymology of the word Hun, so idk why you’re talking about that. Atilla was not born in Hungary, he was originally from somewhere around what is now Russia before his invasions westward, but he did make his main camp in the Pannonian basin where Hungary now is. The ethnicity of the Huns is uncertain but they were most likely related to Turks or Scythians, or possibly a multi-ethnic confederation consisting of tribes from both groups. The Magyars (ancestors of the Hungarians who first migrated to Europe) claimed descent from the Huns due to their fame, as did many other steppe peoples, but there is no reason to believe they actually were related. As for how Atilla would’ve looked, contemporary Roman accounts describe him as being short, flat-nosed tan-skinned, and having “small eyes”, which likely suggests a more Asian appearance. Tldr know what you’re talking about before posting
Thumb Ring is a technology in Age of Empires II: The Conquerors available at the Archery Range upon reaching the Castle Age. Once researched, all archers (both foot and mounted) are able to fire faster and with 100% accuracy at non-moving targets. It does not affect gunpowder units.
@MasterArkannor
Жыл бұрын
How much does it cost?
@CrnaStrela
5 ай бұрын
@@MasterArkannor300 food 250 wood Pretty hefty in early castle when you want to make tc, villagers, and farms so almost nobody research it immediately. Which is why Tatars who got it for free can afford to be very agressive while still building their economy.
Interestingly, Kyudo (Japanese archery) also lays the arrow on the same side of the bow and on their right hand archers wear a leather glove with a notch in the thumb
@randomdude4136
Жыл бұрын
Samurai were also primarily horseback archers (They actually very rarely engaged in large melee formations), variations of this technique are just nature when shooting from the horseback
@Ren-lx8wv
Жыл бұрын
@@randomdude4136 well early samurai started as horse archers. As the years went on they became competent foot soldiers as well Highly versed in spear and naginata combat.
@ramonsalvaleon2616
11 ай бұрын
Actually the samurais learned from the ainu tribe warfare.
@Kaan_is_myname97
10 ай бұрын
Japanese and Samurai are so damn cool man. They are probably related to Central asian people such as Turks, Mongolians way way back
@ramonsalvaleon2616
10 ай бұрын
@@Kaan_is_myname97 Actual the japanese archery learned from the Ainu tribe long time ago.
The Mongolians were on a whole different level.
@erimkosker8118
Жыл бұрын
turkish people were the first ones to use bows on a horse
@dustinchen
Жыл бұрын
he's not mongolian
@cryptid414
Жыл бұрын
@@dustinchenbut the technique is, look at the full video.
@Boatsandhoes44u8
Жыл бұрын
Seems useless to shoot that way, I don't care if they are on a horse or not
@marshallmykietyshyn4973
Жыл бұрын
@@Boatsandhoes44u8 Genghis Khan's armies killed millions of people and took over half the world shooting like that, so I assume it works pretty well
So thats why cavarly archers get more acurracy after getting thumb ring in aoe2
@EEEEEEEE
4 ай бұрын
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Nick Mullen keeps surprising me with his hidden talents
@oldskoolchomp81
Жыл бұрын
Hell yeah, dude
@jdanielw14
Жыл бұрын
I cant unsee it
I remember this episode, enjoyed it very much
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4 ай бұрын
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The classic Parthian shot: Releasing an arrow while facing back from the direction that your mount is going.
@sedatbayrak1598
9 ай бұрын
Sana hangi öküz tarih öğretti, merak ettim. Bu ok ve at üstünde geriye ok atmak tamamen bir Türk işidir. Bunun için koşum takımlarının icadı gerekir ki bunu da iranlılardan çok önceleri Türkler icat etmiş ve kullanmıştır.
Mediterranean didn't nock on the left side of the bow either though, that's a modern invention. Look at medieval art depicting archers and it clearly shows nocking on the right side
@Specter_1125
Жыл бұрын
Art shows that they did both. It was personal preference.
@dogrudiyosun
Жыл бұрын
Depends on what you understand from Mediterranean. Here it means Turkic.
@SaifKhagan
Жыл бұрын
@@dogrudiyosunIt doesn't mean Turkic at all. He's referring to those of the Mediterranean. As in the Greeks, Roman's etc. The Turks never used the 3 finger draw.
@dogrudiyosun
Жыл бұрын
@@SaifKhagan he amk he
@SaifKhagan
Жыл бұрын
@@dogrudiyosun ??
It’s tripping me out that every comment section on every short right now is snide and shitty, and they all have like 4 likes, whereas comments on shorts a few days ago had a bunch of actual input and had thousands of likes each. It feels like something changed in the way they sort the comments.
@therelatablegamer7012
Жыл бұрын
It does I’ve noticed that too
@michaelnace5490
Жыл бұрын
Ong I’m tryna chill with shorts while I download a game and the comments are making me want to start a villain arc
this is a upgrade in AoE II.
@nostalji75
Жыл бұрын
Makes sense now why Britons don't have thumbring. Not sure about some other civs though.
Few people know he was also an excellent horse back riding archer -TOM THUMB!
Historically, archery has been done with the arrow on the right side of the bow, it's only recently with stationary archery that we see the arrow being used on the left side. These releases aren't much different in a historical context, or at least not with the reasoning he gave.
@Likexner
Жыл бұрын
No. Historically, they put the arrow on either side.
@BrotherCarver
Жыл бұрын
@@Likexner You can see it in Medieval paintings, both recreated and original, that the arrows cross over the right side of the bow. It even makes more sense just from a logical standpoint, putting the arrow on the right side of the bow requires the archer to use both eyes to assess his target, which would have given archers a greater sense for depth, especially in closer combat. In Medieval warfare this was done since archers were generally much closer to the infantry than you'd think, they couldn't feasibly use modern standards for stationary archery since they were actively a part of the battle and stationary archery is just too slow and inflexible for that level of combat. Bringing that point home, we know that Medieval archers would often keep spare arrows in their bow hand, grabbing them with their free hand and rapidly firing them, which is most comfortable to do when the arrow is knocked on the right of the bow. Even with Mongols, it's reasonable to extrapolate that they did the same thing since they heavily used mounted archers, and like the video says, you can't easily stabilize a bow on the left side when on a horse. It's generally reasonable to assume that slinging the arrow on the left side of the bow is a modern creation since it almost entirely relies on sporting conditions.
@Likexner
Жыл бұрын
@@BrotherCarver There are paintings that depict archers putting the arrow on either side.
@BrotherCarver
Жыл бұрын
@@Likexner Oh, yeah I misread your comment. I meant that humans generally favored knocking the bow from the right historically, not that they only did that for the entirety of history until the modern day. Assuming I meant that knocking exclusively on the right of the bow was historically accurate is a little bit silly.
@skyereave9454
6 ай бұрын
@@BrotherCarverI've also seen traditional African hunting tribes have it predominantly on the left. And as they've been doing it for who knows how many generations, it's interesting that they do it that way. (The knuckle side I mean). A little extra perspective I suppose.
I was in Malta many years ago and paid $40 murican dollars for a very different "Mediterranean draw"😂🤷♂️
Good Cossack man
I love trivia like this.
Now I am currious I gotta try shooting this way.
@Arthiem
Жыл бұрын
It will hurt at first. Do a light bow first.
Bro I been a pro at horseback archery since ocerena of time.....
i honestly belive medival archers also used to put the arrow on the thumb side of the bow unlike depicted in modern movies, but putting it on the knuckle side seems counter intuitive because your arrow has to go over or past the bow befor resting in place which seems like it takes far more time than it would doing it thumb side. i taught archery to my self and now i do it this way after doing it "wrong" for like 3 years, i became so much faster in consecutive shots!
@cnone3785
Жыл бұрын
Quiver placement seems like could make a difference in what may be easier /faster for each person. Some1 may be able to place arrow on either side of bow but may have quiver in bad spot to acc easily
@mikado728
Жыл бұрын
So, thumb grip/ right of bow launch position: the string compresses the arrow at the nock, arrow bends around the bow as it launches, arrow thus clears the bow and flies oscillating wave form, mid shaft, tip and tail with two node points about 1/20 of the arrow shaft length in from tip and tail; faster, more kinetic energy because thumb grip pulls string further than fingertips, it's ~ 3-4" more bowflex potential energy
@TripleTapHK
3 ай бұрын
@@mikado728 That's not a thing. I'm an expert archer.
@mikado728
3 ай бұрын
@@TripleTapHK LOL ! Legend in your own mind; try it, you'll like it. Don't let your arrogant self-righteousness scuttle your learning. Still laughing at you.
Oh, it's like a hook grip in weight lifting.
@Osama-Bon-Jovi-01
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I suppose so
I thought I invented that when I was a kid😂
@AdamNisenziSpisak
Жыл бұрын
Well if you did it by yourself without any external influence, you technicaly did :D
Interesting, but still would like to see an actual demonstration at work
@Diz3sty
Жыл бұрын
kzread.infocZ2SgxMep14?feature=share Same technique pretty much
@ModernRogue
Жыл бұрын
click on the original video link in the description!
Brilliant!!
Absolutely brilliant
In dry condition horse Archer of the East were the most fear warrior in the Ancient and medieval world...... .. Except when it was raining or snowing. The composite bow was very sensitive to wet conditions.
@Janibek35
2 ай бұрын
There are ways to make composite bows water-resistant.
I can practically hear the archer gatekeepers scream. XD
@TripleTapHK
3 ай бұрын
Real archers are well aware of eastern styles of archery. It's the general public who has no clue about this kind of stuff.
Medieval archers also shot it from the right side of the bow
@TripleTapHK
3 ай бұрын
Some did. Not most.
@Janibek35
2 ай бұрын
There is no cut and dry answer on that. There were many different ways to shoot.
I wonder if at any point in history someone just said screw it and threw the arrow. Killing the target in glorious fashion.
@UwU-235
Жыл бұрын
That’s called a spear
@gradesam6306
Жыл бұрын
there's apparently a thing called plumbata, war darts
@samuelmendoza9356
11 ай бұрын
There is also the Swiss Arrow but it needs a string that wraps around the shaft and tied to its notch. It has the same setup as the amentum used on javelins, they are throwing aid that allows it to act like a sling
This is the kind of information my brain will load and never let go of...
Okay, seeing you switch the arrow to the other side makes me realize that you're shooting more like I do then most other people. I am a left-handed shooter but I shoot right-handed bows, I always put the arrow on the other side and I don't use sites. It's hard to find a good left-handed bows it's not super expensive so I don't even use the arrow rest, I use the knuckle of my thumb just like you do but I use my pointer and middle finger to draw back the bow. I do not use gloves or forearm protectors because they get in the way when I'm hunting.
@SteveSiegelin
Жыл бұрын
I've also been known to outshoot people with their own bow just by taking the bow and flipping it upside down so that I can shoot it in my left😂
@johnfairchild3421
Жыл бұрын
Just. Hit. What you aiming at. And that Archery
@TripleTapHK
3 ай бұрын
You realize real archers can tell you have no idea what you are talking about right?
@SteveSiegelin
3 ай бұрын
@@TripleTapHK that means that you're not a lefty and you've never gone to the struggles that I do. Try shooting right-handed equipment as a left-handed individual. I have taught myself to be ambidextrous but there's certain things you have to do if you're going to shoot someone someone else's equipment upside down because you can't change anything. I became very proficient at it. I'm just as accurate as a right-handed person with a right-handed bow even though I'm shooting holding my left hand and the bow is flipped upside down. Because of this I can't use the arrow rest, I have to use my finger. Don't dare say that people who shoot are going to say I don't because I've been shooting for over 30 years. I have dropped hogs and deer with my bow. I am proficient enough to make a heart shot. What have you killed with your archery equipment? My lethality is there. I've also cleaned everything that I've ever killed and had to clean game for other friends who have never done it before so that they could learn. I literally grew up in the woods.
Ice been shooting arrows since I was a little kid, genuinely never knew people used their thumbs outside a trigger lmao.
Most interesting youtube short in a while.
I don't know if it came out of Turkic nations but i guess no one used and mastered it as much. Biggest empire in the world was built with the help of it.
Today I learned I've always been shooting horseback style
@Janibek35
2 ай бұрын
There is no one horseback style. There are many ways to shoot.
same for Japanese Kyudo btw. . . we also do 'tsurugaeshi' or - return of the bowstring . . . if you do it right, the entire bow rotates to clear the string from your swordhand
@skyereave9454
6 ай бұрын
Is it the same principles as Khatra or a different intention altogether? I do the Korean style so it has similar principles to nomadic archery.
I already learned how to do this in Ocarina of Time
Western archery also placed the arrow on the right side of the bow, resting on the thumb. Placing the arrow on the top of the forefinger knuckle is a modern thing.
@sterlinggecko3269
Жыл бұрын
when I revered the arrow side, it'd kick my shots 2 feet right at 20 yards. unless I did my draw hand upside down, which didn't feel right. I was shooting with bare fingers.
@andrzejgolota6642
Жыл бұрын
this, there are tons of medieval drawings showing archers using the right side
@skyereave9454
6 ай бұрын
@@andrzejgolota6642 Plenty with the opposite as well. I'm guessing it wasn't really a standardized thing. I've actually seen paintings/tapestries where people are doing one or the other in the same picture.
I remember him getting irritated when you dry fired his bow.
@MaxxterDM
Жыл бұрын
Can't blame him. Dry-firing a bow does a number on the limbs, and can, overtime, lead to catastrophic failure. Source? Personal experience. Wrecked the cam bearing on my compound bow when I accidentally dry-fired it. That was on me though for not checking on my equipment; caliper release didn't lock all the way so the loop slipped through. Lesson learned.
@sterlinggecko3269
Жыл бұрын
@@MaxxterDM my cousin had his compound pop on him. the nocks they gave him were too tight, so it chewed up the string. no noticeable damage, though, just a pair of what looked like vampire hamster marks where his wrist got tagged by something flailing.
@MaxxterDM
Жыл бұрын
@sterlinggecko3269 Ooh, ouch. I can only imagine how shocking it was when the string snapped. Glad to hear he got away with only a slap on the wrist.
@Janibek35
2 ай бұрын
And if it's a horn composite bow, it can outright explode for what that's worth.
Hes not "modernrogue" now hes "medievalrogue"
I was never taught archery, but when I used a bow as a kid I instinctively held the arrow with my left thumb. Otherwise I'd have had to shoot around the bow, which didn't make sense to me.
@TripleTapHK
3 ай бұрын
Either side you put the arrow on, you are still shooting around the bow.
Mongolians said "Hold this L westerner"
@Judge_Magister
Жыл бұрын
The Mongols never reached the “west”, they were cut down by knights since the Mongols were actually terribly bad fighters.
@jackmcmorrow9397
Жыл бұрын
@@Judge_Magister I mean they got to poland, thats pretty far into eastern europe.
@Judge_Magister
Жыл бұрын
@@jackmcmorrow9397 historical Poland lay much further to the east into modern day Belarus, Ukraine and Russia. Modern day Poland was moved considerably to the west after ww2. Its territory consists around half of former German lands. The only European nation that truly suffered some time under the Mongol raids were the Russians but as you can see on a map today there is a good reason Russia extends so far to the east. Vladivostok the most eastward city in Russia literally means “rule the east” as in never again suffer attacks from those nomadic barbarians. Russia used to control much of Mongolia too the same goes for China they striped a large part of the territory of Mongolia as China too suffered much under the Mongols.
@adamhatton7579
11 ай бұрын
@@Judge_Magister I love how bitter you are about an extinct empire. You’re probably descended from one of them.
@Judge_Magister
11 ай бұрын
@@adamhatton7579 bitter about what? I was just stating some historical footnotes. I hail from the Netherlands from a family of farmers and traders so i doubt it. Anyone with a bit of historical knowledge can see the Mongols for what they are, a greedy, sadistic and destructive force who were terrible in building and maintaining an empire.
There are Europeanmedieval depictions of archers using a multitude of methods. Both sides, 2-3 fingers, thumb or no thumb, fingers fown or raised while nocking...
@skyereave9454
6 ай бұрын
Whatever hits the target most often for them I suppose.
The hand and finger strength to fully draw a bow held by just the thumb and forefinger...holy
Hence the term “plucking” the arrow which morphed into “pluck you” which morphed into… well you get the picture…
American????? Ha ha ha ha
This man's accent keeps coming and going like the different hand positions
What are the different gear pieces called? Finger guards? Ring? New terminology.
@abzerabduabdullah2663
Жыл бұрын
Called zihgir, the thumb ring
When i was a little lad, i got a little toy boy (an actual bow in the sense it doesn't use elastic strings and stuff) and I'd draw that thing liks how this man would draw his bow. I thought i waa doing it wrong the entire time when i saw films where they were doing the Mediterranean draw; i guess there's always other ways in doing things
@Thomas_420
Жыл бұрын
Man my dad made me bows out of sticks and strings and then carve the arrows with 4 fins and I would always lose them because he would have me aim at blackberry bushes and then we wouldn’t go get them 🥲 good memories
I just read “How to shoot a horse whilst riding a bow.” I need to go back to sleep.
This man understood the assignment
I've watched modern horse archers in mogolia shooting off the left side of the bow with three fingers
@patrickbueno3279
Жыл бұрын
modern people might practice modern techniques or they are just far apart that their tribes has preference
@Skenderbeuismyhero
Жыл бұрын
@@patrickbueno3279 and ancient techniques and who used them aren't often recorded.
That bow looked like the Phrenic Bow from BotW/Tears of the Kingdom
Why is it different right after he just explained it 😆 🤣
Feel like I fought this dude's ancestors in Kingdom Come: Deliverance
My only gripe is that there's no such thing as "American archery".
@jowolf2187
Жыл бұрын
@@LostNEggsAisle-tm5zr No my reason for griping is that American archery isn't a thing. The first nations all used bows, but they used them in the same manner as the Mongols (same grip and shorter bows). So calling it "American" is rather capricious. Furthermore, the bow was not universal in the Americas - the Aztecs, Mayans, Incas, etc. of Meso America and South America largely continued to use darts, atlatls, and spears over bows because said weapons were more effective in the tight quarters of the dense rainforests in their respective territories.
Was this a regional thing? Or did all horse mounted archer develop this technique?
@stonedape3285
Жыл бұрын
There are multiple different mounted archer techniques.
@ReepsWasteOfTime
Жыл бұрын
This is a regional/bow type thing. Compound and recurve don’t change much on horse back
@barnabasfarakas7376
Жыл бұрын
It had variations, but it was probably common among steppe peoples. It's written that the Magyars shot like this in the 9. century. 300 years later, Mongolians arrive and do it the same way. Which is not surprising. Riding and archery were the main skills in these cultures, so they had extremely good technique developed.
This simple difference in technique combined with their specialized saddles were a game changer on par with the invention of firearms
I've been wanting to learn archery for a while now I'm glad I found this
Ummm. I. From the usa and I been using someone else's country style. Wtf
Couldn't the arrow the part laying on the bow slide up and down the bow if not resting on the thumb? Especially when riding?
@HuchiaZ
Жыл бұрын
Your index finger is pressuring the arrow to the handle and string of the bow in a perpendicular force. So while riding you might have the arrow move away from the handle slightly due to force but it would be very small and you'd likely have counterforce from your handle arm to minimise this further. With the Mediterranean draw you only have pressure on the arrow between the soft flesh of your two fingers on the string, so gravity is the only thing pressuring the arrow. If you shake any part of it the string becomes the fulcrum point of a lever-like movement. So you could pressure the arrow, but it would only keep it knocked since you can't really pressure the shaft -thus the tip still bounces around the string even if you use counterforce.
When I was a kid I used to rest on my thumb side and draw with the post fletch. After being corrected I had to relearn how to aim again
Got to love how despite the technology for bow being found in almost all cultures, the way to actually use it differed
@0Synergy
Жыл бұрын
Another weird one is sabres basically every ended up using them.
@sterlinggecko3269
Жыл бұрын
everything is a spear. a bow is just a spear, but the guy you want to stab is way over there.
@0Synergy
Жыл бұрын
@@sterlinggecko3269 bullets are just tiny spears also.
Growing up in the US, I used the L.
@NiVoldiza
Жыл бұрын
Growing up in the US _is_ an L.
Oh... Yeah, that makes sense. I've never used the 3 finger crap. I've always naturally shot using my thumb, and I've always had great accuracy with that. However, if my arrows are on the outside of the bow, they go out into "left field". I have to use the inside. However, next time I'm going to try holding it horizontally like a crossbow like this guy does.
@Specter_1125
Жыл бұрын
It’s not crap. The Mediterranean draw works perfectly for what’s its for, and if you know what you’re doing, you can knock the arrow on either side of the bow. Also, holding it horizontally will drastically shorten your draw length.
@PickledPixiePie
Жыл бұрын
@@Specter_1125 I mean, to each their own, but when I try it, crap is the result. It just doesn't feel natural to me.
@PickledPixiePie
Жыл бұрын
@@Specter_1125 If I were a man, I might agree. However, I feel like the female physiology is a lot more flexible when it comes to being able to twist to compensate, like in the case of mounted combat. I could be wrong, though. I just feel like it might not be as drastic with someone's who's more flexible.
@TripleTapHK
3 ай бұрын
Your arrows peel away from the bow because you aren't actually using a real thumb draw to pinch the arrow against your bow. You are just drawing your bow with your thumb which if it works for you it works, but it aint gonna work for horseback archery. Crap results with Mediterranean draw is 100% a skill issue.
Instructions unclear, domed my horse, and ended up a prisoner of war
"Why is ist different?" Well the mongol have an extravagantly huge empire for a reason
American archery looolllll
@AnAmericanMusician
Жыл бұрын
Indians had plenty of archery. I'm not sure what's so funny. 🤔
@okruma625
Жыл бұрын
Indigenous Americans did plenty of archery before the firearms trade took over, and even then...
@supremecoctus3201
Жыл бұрын
Another example of someone who doesn’t know history lmao
@Janibek35
2 ай бұрын
American arrows come in varying sizes. 9mm, 30-06, 50 BMG, etc...
awesome explained, thx. :)
I do that in Foam Archery. We call it the "Thumb draw"
"Why is it different?" He comes up with a cool story. But the real reason is their bows are 1% the power of an English yew bow.
“American Archery” 😂😂😂😂
@bomcuming3007
Жыл бұрын
Yea natives, Like south America north America he didn’t specifically say what americas
@rhondaparr5739
Жыл бұрын
he should be saying European not American
I actually learned something off the internet today. 😁👍💯
That explains why kyudo also does this kind of form as well. The samurai were mounted archers way back then
Remember when one of the hosts dry fired the instructors bow and he got a bit upset?
I will have to try this
Didn't know there was such thing as "American archery"
@VXxTheSlashxXV
Жыл бұрын
That's cause the natives where almost extinct
@SuicideMike5150
Жыл бұрын
American Archery has since evolved to where we have given up on silly string pulling and now we just pull the F’n trigger. 😂
@Shepherdd__
Жыл бұрын
@@VXxTheSlashxXV Wow. I just realised thanks to you that I completely forgot about native americans for a moment (I French btw, don't judge me)
@VXxTheSlashxXV
Жыл бұрын
@@SuicideMike5150 LMAO
@SurfistaEletrico
Жыл бұрын
@@VXxTheSlashxXV Yes, but also no. The natives were not americans. The land was not called america before the arrival of european settlers. 😉
oh, careful. you might anger the competitive archery community.
Wow i'm impressed unfortunatly very few people know the correct way to shoot an arrow in steppen style Huge respect
Cancer comment section 4 real
@comosaycomosah
Жыл бұрын
Lol fr!
It's different from Anglo archery. Many Americans grew up learning several release techniques
@cam6202
Жыл бұрын
Yeah they where on a moving horse, completely different bow and style.
@christopherfisher128
Жыл бұрын
@@cam6202 Different from the Anglos yes but the American Indians of the Plains and West/South West were some of the finest horse archers in history and used a different release than either.
@sterlinggecko3269
Жыл бұрын
@@christopherfisher128 because they didn't get horses until after Europeans showed up, so they probably didn't just relearn everything from square one.
So that's how the Dothraki from Game of Thrones do their bow shooting on horseback!
shooting this way hurts and takes getting used to.
@veraducks
Жыл бұрын
Shooting in general hurts and takes getting used to.
@clothar23
Жыл бұрын
Might want to invest in a bracer if shooting a bow is causing you pain.
With the western draw done correctly, you don't need to stabilize the arrow. The string rotates as you draw and pushes it against the bow on the arrow rest. Now if you need to draw quickly while riding, I could see how the thumb side for an arrow rest would be helpful and in that case, the same draw technique would instead pull the arrow right off the bow. So his technique will rotate the string the other way and hold it to the thumb side. You could do an upside down 2 finger grip. That would have the same effect. And it is similar to how you often pull back when using a trigger release on a compound bow. Just gotta make sure you're grabing the string from the opposite side of the arrow and allowing the natural rotation of the string rather than forcing it to be straight. Same principle either way.
@ArcherInTraining2
Жыл бұрын
Thank you this method is just an easy bypass instead of practicing your technique
@c2mewhen
Жыл бұрын
He’s not gonna fuck you
@TheSuperSpud
Жыл бұрын
Especially since historical archers, like those on horseback had most of the time to fire rapidly
@WarPoet-In-Training
Жыл бұрын
I shot competitive archery (bare bow, no sights as well) for years. Unless your using some special kind of arrows, the nock on the end of the arrow would not have enough grip to rotate with the string. Its just not that tight. In addition to that, whether your using a release aid or not, the string doesn't rotate to one side or another when you draw. You're pulling it straight back, not back and rotating in.
@RealHankShill
Жыл бұрын
I cant imagine a time, when riding on horseback, that shooting fast wouldnt be the priority
No need for history when Age of Empires exists
My girlfriend already knows about my Mediterranean drawback 🙃
Heavy Archers also had the arrow on the outer side since it is easier to draw the bow like that if it has a high draw weight.
@TripleTapHK
3 ай бұрын
Having the arrow on either side of the bow has literally zero affect on draw weight.
Having the arrow on the thumb side is also easier to nock the arrow while riding, especially when you have to use either hand to shoot your bow as targets on either side of the track means you are swapping which arm. We were taught to use both hands equally since you never know which side of the horse the enemy will be on.
It is beautiful to hear something so well explained.
This man lost his accent in a second
love it but i’ve seen this video like 3 years ago. new shorts
The inventers of the "parting shot". Riding a running horse with no hands and turning to face backwards and sending an arrow at any pursuers. Changed warfare.
@Finnspin_unicycles
Жыл бұрын
Parthian shot?
drawing with the thumb is better for beginners because they don't twist the string and that's a hill I'll die on
I love how the algorithm has decided that anyone who has AOE in their watch history now has to watch this short as well. Sometimes the algorithm gets it right.
Isn't American archery whatever the native American archers did? Lol at everyone in this thread who thinks he's talking about Europeans who moved to America and mainly used guns in combat.
@TVbasick
Жыл бұрын
The Europeans are the reason horses were in America
@tommydashed4205
Жыл бұрын
@@TVbasick Huh?
@74nova36
Жыл бұрын
@@tommydashed4205 horses aren’t native to America dummy
@Janibek35
2 ай бұрын
@@tommydashed4205 Yes. They are largely descended from horses that escaped Spanish captivity.
It's the superior technique. You get center and most direct transfer of energy too.
@TripleTapHK
3 ай бұрын
Has nothing to do with that. Mongolians even shot from the left side of the bow when on the ground. Shooting from the right with the thumb draw is primarily a horseback archery technique.