Imagine you are just a peasant forced to fight and there is a medieval helicopter in front of you carving through your whole village

@lordhawkeye

Ай бұрын

Until you realise that once you hit that first peasant your weapon has stopped moving and are now open to counter attacks.

@dww34

Ай бұрын

@@lordhawkeye Or you all just wait until the guy starts puking his lunch up from exhaustion. Both work.

@Snipergoat1

Ай бұрын

Halberds baby halberds. You knight could eviscerate your standard peasant easily on skill alone. Add some top notch armor and and he may seem invincible, right up until those peasants got some picks or even worse some good polearms and outnumber him three to one. Then Sir Pincushion is screwed.

@hungrymusicwolf

Ай бұрын

@@Snipergoat1 Sir Pincushion 😂

@mikewlazlinski4309

Ай бұрын

​@@lordhawkeye Not how a greatsword works. And also dude is swinging around a big sword that weighs almost nothing.

Lots of people don't realize just how light and well made greatswords are. They imagine a giant slab of metal that's virtually impossible to wield.

@VirtualFechtschule

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, Which is a shame. These things are so damn cool! :)

@TytonidaeIndustries

2 ай бұрын

​@@VirtualFechtschule Indeed, I would even go so far as to call ANY type of greatsword the pinical of sword technology, whether African, European, Asian or belonging to any other cultures

@dolsopolar

2 ай бұрын

@@TytonidaeIndustriesyou could say that considering how bearing sword or the japanese 'giant's sword' were basically made to show wealth and skills in blademaking

@cordyceps182

2 ай бұрын

@@TytonidaeIndustries *pinnacle Forgive me, it just annoyed me.

@TytonidaeIndustries

2 ай бұрын

@cordyceps182 no worries, it was bothering me while I typed it out, lol

It is kind of funny that characters with less physical strength are often portrayed as using bows. Swords are surprisingly light for long pieces of steel. Compare that to repeatedly drawing a war bow.

@AedanTheGrey

19 күн бұрын

This is something Dash Rendar talks about, as well as Skallagrim on the physique of knights being much slimmer than the modern idea of them

@RRRRRRRRRRR956

18 күн бұрын

Bowmen should be buff af

@alexeifrederickflores4021

18 күн бұрын

​@RRRRRRRRRRR956 not to mention better able to display the goods without all the armor Frontline have.

@crayontotallyen4616

17 күн бұрын

I don't know man, 'cause knight have to be strong enough to wear plate armors that weigh almost a human's. But archers have packed muscles in their backs

@VisibleNoises

17 күн бұрын

​​@@crayontotallyen4616Plate armor is not that heavy, more like 50 lbs and if fitted well, weight would be distributed across the body. Not too much more than modern soldiers's gear which makes sense, you designed based on the max a person could realistically support. 100+ pound armors are usually for jousting or tournaments and specialized for that kind of context.

Well every flying insect in that room just died

@seanoreilly9950

17 күн бұрын

send this guy to illinois he needs to defend us from the cicada emergence

@locrianphantom3547

7 күн бұрын

@@seanoreilly9950Yes 🙏

@luunazuum3785

Күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂

"Greatswords are slow and cumbersome" is the greatsword equivalent of "shotguns only do damage at close range."

@hallvarhustad

Ай бұрын

Both true.

@datcap6289

Ай бұрын

@@hallvarhustad have you ever fired a shotgun?

@oldschoolChazzed

Ай бұрын

​@@hallvarhustadit depends on the shotgun but in general, those pellets dont just disappear after 5 feet. They keep going in a pretty wide cone of pain.

@TroySavary

Ай бұрын

​@@oldschoolChazzedThey do disappear after 5 feet, but luckily, that is the maximum flight altitude of ducks.

@chrismanuel9768

Ай бұрын

​@@hallvarhustadA shotgun slug has a maximum effective range of 600 feet. Two football fields. Buckshot has an effective lethal range of over 60 feet. Even if you're using buckshot, you can kill someone four stories away from you, horizontally. And a slug shotgun is just a rifle with heavier bullets.

And now you know why a dnd character takes up a full 5ft square

@tapurate638

2 ай бұрын

Naw, nruh, that's 10ft here, and it's only if he'll be standing still.

@decespugliatorenucleare3780

2 ай бұрын

Yeah: the smell

@NicholasVernem-GroovyNickyLee

2 ай бұрын

A greatsword should have reach.

@Lady_Corwin

2 ай бұрын

@@tapurate638 Remember that a D&D character is occupying a 5ft space and can attack within a further 5ft. So it's more like a 15ft diameter space.

@77wolf89

Ай бұрын

But the writers still ignorantly have greatswords weighing 15 lbs.

The footwork on display here is fantastic. Well done sir. That's no mean feat.

@ianmacfarlane1241

Ай бұрын

No mean feet?

@GuidoHaverkort

Ай бұрын

They are very mean feet

@sethgoldberg3300

Ай бұрын

Literally the best and most relevant part of this whole display 👏

@yerwotm8

Ай бұрын

It's two mean feet.

Seeing the greatsword defense for multiple attackers in an alleyway was a massive eye-opener in regards to greatsword application.

@Sunnysideanyway

21 күн бұрын

Until they have a gun, then you'll see how far warfare has come Outside of the US? Sure, if no one has any concerns with you carrying a giant sword around.

@TheStraightestWhitest

19 күн бұрын

That's what the Spanish used them for in naval warfare too. You're literally a one man army if you're on the deck of a ship or boarding plank with one of those things.

@user-nb8nj6yj1p

2 күн бұрын

@@TheStraightestWhitestthe alleyway tho it still depends. Tight spaces still pose problems with swords regardless of size

Fromsoft devs seeing this: "huh.. anyways, make em swing like it weighs half a ton"

@thatguyovertherelmao

2 ай бұрын

Different kind of balance 😂

@Rexus0705

2 ай бұрын

They also kill gods. These 3kg swords wont

@TheYpurias

2 ай бұрын

@@Rexus0705 Tell that to all the gods hanging around within sword distance on Earth.

@God-ch8lq

2 ай бұрын

malenia's prostheic sword weighs like 75 kilos (assuming it's made out of gold), and waterfowl has enough kinetic energy to cut through most WW2-era tanks mind u, thats not the one you use, i mean the one malenia uses

@davidwilkinson4634

2 ай бұрын

It's called balance

The reason people don't USUALLY spar with steel great swords is that no one wants to get hit by a big ass steel sword at full power in the head! Or any other part of the body!

@sunder739

2 ай бұрын

Git gud. Clearly a skill issue

@gabcard2767

2 ай бұрын

Why weren't they uses more in history tho? Was the extra cost of the metal not considered worth it?

@smiley7399

2 ай бұрын

@@gabcard2767Spears are more cost effective and very easy to use

@Arbidarb

2 ай бұрын

​@@gabcard2767 Because it takes more money, skill, and space to use a greatsword. Polearms are way cheaper, easier, and useful in formations.

@gabcard2767

2 ай бұрын

@@Arbidarb Makes sense. Thanks for the info!

I do this kind of thing with a staff and it's definetly possible and deadly but only for a few minutes at a time, the huge rotational momentum costs a lot.

@Santisima_Trinidad

18 күн бұрын

​@@beowulf_of_wall_stthat and "only for a few minutes" is still a really long time to be actively fighting in most battlefield scenarios, let alone in a 3V1 with no incoming support.

@beowulf_of_wall_st

18 күн бұрын

@@Santisima_Trinidad yeah that's true, a fight like this is a 30 second thing at most before someone dies or disengages

@XXx-wy9kj

2 күн бұрын

The momentum may cost a lot but it costs more if you don’t use the rotational momentum to keep in motion.

I remember as a kid going to Edinburgh castle where they had a genuine long sword from medieval times. They had it laying down horizontally on a table, that thing was heavy at 1st but once you have it vertically or use the weight of the sword to manoeuvre it around it was quite light. This video was awesome but I could see the speed tho not much really slowing down with each weight class…not that I would of mattered still swung at speed with the bonus momentum behind it, definitely messing up someone’s day 😅

I wish more people would realise how light medieval weapons tend to be. It's all about the balance

@oscaranderson5719

2 ай бұрын

speaking of balance, -4 pounds- 2 kg is a fuck of a lot when you’ve got it extended a body length away from yourself. couldn’t imagine having to swing around one in the double-digits people quote.

@_KUBA

2 ай бұрын

​@@oscaranderson5719Center of mass is near the cross. So it is not that bad.

@oscaranderson5719

2 ай бұрын

@@_KUBA it’s not terribly bad, but it’s enough that it forced me to really learn how to use my body weight to move it so I don’t fatigue my arms too fast.

@MrElath

2 ай бұрын

And knowing how to use the handle as a lever properly otherwise these things will wield *you* as you fight its mass and inertia inefficiently

@MrFadedInsanity

2 ай бұрын

Same thing with armor, plate really wasn't that heavy

Game animators should take some notes.

@Willrocs

2 ай бұрын

Todd has gotten plenty

@ZenoDovahkiin

2 ай бұрын

Real life weapons aren't "balanced" in a way that makes all the cool ones equally viable. If you make every game realistic games will go from criminally underreoresenting spears to near total polearm dominance.

@OniGanon

2 ай бұрын

@@ZenoDovahkiin Depends how much is being factored in. If you have to worry about carry weight, difficulty of use in confined space, friendly fire, and an inability to be used with a shield or ranged weapon equipped (or spellcasting focus if it's that kind of game), then there are reasons to use other weapons.

@hellhuckerhenry6950

Ай бұрын

@@ZenoDovahkiin It's just about the animations dude, nobody talked about effectiveness

@Yorikoification

Ай бұрын

@@OniGanon I think Kingdom Come Deliverance did it well. Polearms there dominate in melee, HOWEVER they cannot be sheathed and you cannot sprint at full speed while wielding one. However I do wish that you could stash it on your horse or wield it on horseback.

Beautiful showing that not only are Greatswords are lighter and more maneuverable than you think, but if you know how to use them properly, you can be a dangerous foe even when surrounded as seen at the beginning.

@cat_city2009

5 күн бұрын

I could be wrong, but if they all rushed in with shields up, they could have swarmed the greatsword wielder. Would a greatsword go through a wooden shield if hit head on?

This is a perfect showcase of what the Greatsword was, the ideal area denial tool.

@karlkoskie2891

9 күн бұрын

Spears are better And cheaper And longer And easier to use And are good in formation And can be used for hunting And used on horseback And can be used as battlefield fortifications And can be used behind walls And can be used with shields But aside from that, yeah the best

@jigmewangchuk4085

7 күн бұрын

@@karlkoskie2891😂

Now imagine your biggest, tallest, angriest relative with full armor, a great sword and training. Tanks of the days of Sword and Board

@Harshstew21

Ай бұрын

Bruh my older brother is already scary, he is 6'3 and prior military and current law enforcement

@gmoney6460

Ай бұрын

… I’m the tallest relative at 5’8. I am the most muscular however. Would hopefully mess a few people up

@PedroTorres-ky2yx

Ай бұрын

Gregor Clegane

@hanzohattori9576

Ай бұрын

Actually, the tanks of the sword and shield days were fully armoured men on fully armoured horses. Greatsword dudes were more like light armour.

@Harshstew21

Ай бұрын

@@gmoney6460 yikes dude im 6'1

What's heavier: a 2kg foam greatsword or a 2kg steel greatsword?

@bugsy0422

2 ай бұрын

That's right it's the 2kg steel greatsword. Because steel is heavier than foam

@UkSapyy

Ай бұрын

Clearly the foam...

@TheonlyNuclearFox

Ай бұрын

@@bugsy0422 yeah but they're both 2kg

@Rose_Butterfly98

Ай бұрын

​@@TheonlyNuclearFox but steel is heavier than foam

@jan-kaihugel2250

Ай бұрын

It's not heavier it's more dense. Also I am not convinced, only honestly hoping you guys are kidding. You were kidding, right?

Dude wtf, been playing mmo’s forever and none of them decided to research how these swords were used? The movement is so badass.

I never knew greatswords could be wielded that way! That is so cool!

Three guys trying to get a hit in: "Are you exhausted yet?"

Greatswords are not slow and cumbersome, they’re just long and require a decent amount of space to offend an area

@manicsnake137

2 ай бұрын

Which when storming a castle or established defense position those prospects are rarely given to the attacker

@jameji_phd

Ай бұрын

@@manicsnake137 In tight quarters a greatsword essentially just becomes a shorter spear, but yes they do excel as defensively-minded weapons (either for controlling a space and preventing entry or guarding a person).

@munkhbaatarerdenetsolmon1714

Ай бұрын

The area: 😢

@user-pq3tf8xu3k

Ай бұрын

Or if your confined in a small box with chain and lock....That's when you don't have room to swing the Beluga around...

I love how there’s the obligatory castle in the background at least for a little.

The instant one guy parrys his great sword and breaks the momentum... He is toast

@LukasJampen

11 күн бұрын

Ah yes parry the 2 kg of steel flying around at high speed. Good luck with that. Also building up momentum takes less time than you'd think and also less time than it takes to get close and do actual damage to him. Maybe if all 3 were perfectly in sync and knew that 1 of them was cappable of stopping the momentum it might work but under most normal circumstances that's not that likely.

@DanielPapaterra

11 күн бұрын

He did stop and go his momentum quite a lot in the video. He can maneuver it quickly even if parried. What you wanna do is cut his range coming into him, ideally parrying at his arms, specially if you have a smaller, lighter weapon, which I imagine is what you were thinking of.

@TerraDoctor

10 күн бұрын

@@DanielPapaterra He exclusively stopped the momentum at angles he could recover easily from because he was only striking air. If he had broken his momentum from striking an object or enemy, then the strength required to pull the sword back from a distant angle of leverage would've disrupted his movements.

@ipodman1910

8 күн бұрын

He died in that video many times - turning his back to oponents…

Still looks like a HELL of a workout!

@erikkennedy8725

20 күн бұрын

Any swordplay can be a hell of a workout. Ask a fencer.

Greatsword fighting in a nutshell: Spin to Win

@yulfine1688

2 ай бұрын

No in fact what he's doing is very inefficient and stupid, yes he keeps the momentum going because you have to, however not like this unless you're against multiple opponents and anyone who is somewhat skilled can easily close the gap ot parry a strike, also the average person today doesn't have the strength to swing even a Longsword fast either, elden ring has it down in attack speed for the most part and in duels you're definitely not going to be swinging like that.

@oscaranderson5719

2 ай бұрын

@@yulfine1688 lmao have you seen longsword fights? they’re basically a blur. longswords are exceptionally light and whippy, greatswords are a bit more ponderous but not nearly to the same level as Elden Ring depicts. heck, you could swing it in one hand and _still_ be faster.

@Candlemancer

2 ай бұрын

​@@yulfine1688 You try and fight a real person at Elden Ring speed and you'll die before you even start your second swing, even against a complete novice.

@yulfine1688

2 ай бұрын

@@Candlemancer you'll die attempting to fly your blade around.. you're not swinging it anywhere near that fast in combat or in war, its not like sports today...

@oscaranderson5719

2 ай бұрын

@@yulfine1688 you realize that speed correlates with power, right? it also means anyone moving that much slower is never, _ever_ gonna land a hit- much less a solid one.

That looked so smooth and agile. I wasn't expecting this to be possible with a greatsword.

The speed with all that momentum is... terrifying, frankly.

@mekingtiger9095

Ай бұрын

Greatswords are just bludgeons that sacrifice _some_ raw power in exchange for more area of effect but are still powerful enough to be a danger beyond just cutting ability and I love that, lol.

@LukasJampen

11 күн бұрын

Yeah even if they are lighter than people think it's still 2kg of steel moving at a high velocity and even if you only get hit with the end of it that can do a lot of damage even if it was just a blunt practice weapon.

@karlkoskie2891

9 күн бұрын

​@@LukasJampengood luck reversing the momentum tho. Just move in after the swing, theyre wide open

Man's just casually upgrading to a proper Guts' greatsword

@Tyyin.

2 ай бұрын

Raiders Greatsword is like 50pounds LOL

@MansMan42069

2 ай бұрын

@@Tyyin. Slowly but surely, with every new video he posts 🤣

@andrewharris5281

2 ай бұрын

The montage makes it appear casual. However there is scene in the transition that if you look closely, his red face and slow-er movements belie the effort it’s requiring him to exert. And even in the end he’s going through the motions. Warfare has always been about lethality as a distance.

@MrElath

2 ай бұрын

That beautiful slab of iron is called Dragonslayer. There is a guy here on KZread that was trying to train up to being able to swing a real Dragonslayer replica, dont know if he made it

@jurtheorc8117

2 ай бұрын

Next up: Chaoseater from Darksiders, the Ashen Vindicator from Soulstice (one side of the blade has the sharp bit replaced with a handle to use it upside-down as a warhammer) and the Heavenly Sword from, well, Heavenly Sword. Complete with split-apart action. And then the Soul Reaver, i guess.

You can see how while being only 3 kilos, a greatsword still takes a good chunk of skill and strenght to wield like this

@goldenhate6649

Ай бұрын

A warrior training his whole life with a weapon like this would have little issue with it. Clubs were also incredibly common in battle, as were axes, polearms, etc. Its a common myth that weapons had to be super light in battle.

@Taistelukalkkuna

Ай бұрын

@@goldenhate6649 Or super heavy. As in games, hero can barely lift two-handed sword.

@MsRafaelRGO

Ай бұрын

i was thinking...wouldn't a be relatively easy to lose balance, if u don't strike properly. like if u end up striking with the side of the blade wouldn't be hard to keep hold of the weapon? cause of the weight and how it is distributed

@thecore8605

Ай бұрын

@@MsRafaelRGO this is solved with good footwork, however a strong parry can throw off your balance

@josephhill6928

Ай бұрын

You can see how much a .5kg addition alters his form. Wild.

I won’t lie. Seeing someone swing that greatsword around so casually and easily made my guy brain go happy

Impressive. Wish I could wield a sword like this guy. Very smooth technique. The choice of music is cool, too. Very stirring and heroic. Like it.😎👍🏾

People don't realise that balancing is a key factor in weapon construction. 2 kg of perfectly balanced weight are pretty easy to throw around

@4lackofbetter

Ай бұрын

Guess too many people think of a greatsword like Cloud's Buster Sword or Guts Dragon Slayer.

@-user_redacted-

Ай бұрын

​@@4lackofbetter that and most people have probably never held a well made sword in their lives, if they have held a sword it's likely been a shoddy wallhanger made for looks over all else.

@JackFou

Ай бұрын

I’d wager most people imagine a greatsword to be *considerably* heavier than 2 kg

I don't have experience with greatswords, only with one-handed ones, but I've always found swinging steel to actually be slightly easier because they are thin and don't get so much air resistance because of that

@Xeonort

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, they’re much lighter and easier to swing than movies, tv, and video games would have us believe. However, the soreness and fatigue is real when you’ve been at it for a bit. It’s something I wasn’t fully expecting when I first picked up HEMA.

@mikurusagawa6897

2 ай бұрын

@@Xeonort Oh ye, it's crazy how fast your arms get tired

@Arbidarb

2 ай бұрын

​@@XeonortThe average person will get sore from golf if they aren't used to it.

@bigbrowntau

2 ай бұрын

I remember decades ago being told to expect a sword to weigh about one pound per foot. 2.3 -3kg for a greatsword is pretty close to that old guide

@yanrowful

Ай бұрын

Also because of balance. Centre of mass in onehanded sword is closer to your own hand, which makes it easier to control the weapon (depends on a type of sword, of course, but still)

Full armored greatsword wielder of the past must have been phenomenal atheletes.

@pyromite38

2 күн бұрын

IIRC the full plate armors weight something around 22 kg, which is a lot, but the weight is distributed all around your body, so it's less straining than you would thought. Also the momentum of the greatsword helps it keep moving without you needing to do much once you start spinning. While you must have some athleticism to do these, I'd assume overheating to be a much bigger issue (since you'd have layers of cloth underneath that armor).

Was waiting for that "Big Goron sword" ending 😭

It will be a beautiful day when a videogame gets the greatsword down the correct way.

@VirtualFechtschule

2 ай бұрын

Would be cool indeed! :)

@balintkovacs4089

Ай бұрын

@@VirtualFechtschule So far Mortal Shell and Lords of the Fallen (the new one) has come the closest to what's it like to wield a greatsword/longsword. So there ARE devs who pick up on these details.

@VirtualFechtschule

Ай бұрын

@@balintkovacs4089 nice, I'll check those out! :)

@wunnell

Ай бұрын

And then they can portray magic and dragons realistically too.

@balintkovacs4089

Ай бұрын

@@wunnell Exactly. No more cheap wyverns labelled as dragon :D

great swords in games after 1 swing: guess i will have an unskippable cooldown of 10 seconds before I can attack again 🙅‍♂️

@presarioman

2 ай бұрын

When I played Skyrim, I completely avoided power attacks. Just made me feel clumsy.

@ExtraVictory

2 ай бұрын

If you mean souls games, Greatswords have a pretty correct attacking pace in that series. The movements seen in the video are for defending an area, usually a bridge or a boat or a street corner, for a limited time period. Against what could potentially be many enemies. It will exhaust even a highly trained person very quickly. One person is putting in tons of effort to keep the opponents at bay while they can just stand there out of reach. So yeah, You're much better off swinging a greatsword like you're in elden ring, with elden ring speed, than doing this, if you were actually in elden ring situations You might be thinking of ultra greatswords, which are much, much bigger than this. And therefore have much higher impact forces than this, and higher recovery after each swing. That's a different exchange of forces and totally reasonable for someone with superhuman strength (like the zweihander description from ds1 says)

@jurtheorc8117

2 ай бұрын

Meanwhile in Darksiders and Soulstice, they're you're starting weapon for the entirety of the game and your most reliable option for regular consistent damage with very little cooldown, if at all. War's animations from Darksiders seem to have some fairly realistic swordplay to them where he uses the momentum of the swings to keep on going. Same with Briar in Soulstice, though she also does some spinning where she gets dragged around a bit by the sword.

@Vifercel

2 ай бұрын

Just out of curiosity. What games do you play?

@LecherousLizard

Ай бұрын

@@ExtraVictory Lol, no. Souls games have the same exact problems of weapons being swung like they are 10+kg clubs not meant to be used as weapons. Shadiversity made a video about it. There's no redeeming qualities about the way weapons in Elden Ring (and by extension, every other Dark Souls game from FromSoft, since they are all the same game).

The kick to raise it up was very good.

If they were slow and cumbersome, then mercenaries wouldn't have chosen to use them. They pay is no good if you're dead.

@danielsterling4918

3 күн бұрын

Mercenaries trained (experienced ideally too) in how to use great swords typically received double pay that of another mercenary of equivalent rank

I blame Skyrim for tricking us all into thinking that weapons weigh more than a well-fed cat.

@rayanderson5797

2 ай бұрын

It's not just Skyrim. Fantasy media has been making weapons way too heavy for a long while. The Atlantean sword in Conan was like 9lbs, even though a real sword of that length should have weighed about 3 at most.

@jeeweewee

Ай бұрын

My cat is like 8KG, 4 X heavier than a steel great sword?!?!

@LecherousLizard

Ай бұрын

@@jeeweewee Yup.

@LecherousLizard

Ай бұрын

Skyrim? The Elder Scrolls was always like that. Even all the way back in Arena a simple claymore weighted 14kg.

@jareddecuir8091

Ай бұрын

more like a medium sized kitten tbh

It's almost like 5-10lbs distributed across 5-ish feet of steel, balanced to pivot around the guard, is not actually that much weight to handle.

@aegoter3932

2 ай бұрын

It's still a lot of weight and the long blade makes it more unwieldy. Thats why techniques are focused on using the momentum instead of fighting it

@Caseyuptobat

2 ай бұрын

@@aegoter3932 buddy I know from experience that if you're used to physically lifting things on a regular basis, 7.5lbs is not a lot of weight. And I don't mean weightlifting, I just mean like, carrying things as part of your job or hobby. Not sure why you feel the need to be a contrarian about this.

@aegoter3932

2 ай бұрын

@@Caseyuptobat I'm just trying to correct the misconception. Picking a greatsword up and carrying it around maybe be easy but swinging it around is another beast, especially when you have a long blade. I have trained with greatswords. I know.

@Kingdomkey123678

2 ай бұрын

Not a lot of weight but a lot of inertia, it’s harder to change direction with a Greatsword than it is with anything less massive

@blarpus

2 ай бұрын

More like 4-5 pounds

Tbh, its looks like it becomes more fluid and graceful when he uses the steel swords, the foam and nylon looks like they're more cumbersome and would be more useful as a heavy blunt object. Maybe because its due to the fact sharpened metal cuts through the air easier makes it look faster despite being slightly heavier.

I get the feeling that after 5 swings of one of those, I would already be tired.

@LukasJampen

11 күн бұрын

To be fair a normal person doesn't train regularly with it. Do this for half a year to a year and you'll be able to swing it around for longer than you'd expect. Especially with proper technique as once it moves all you do is redirecting the momentum and rarely stopping and start swinging again.

You can see he's going slower with the heavier sword but 3.3kg (7.25 lbs) is still lighter than most rifles and less than a gallon of milk. I've seen interviews with modern soldiers talking about going room by room clearing houses all day having to hold up a rifle that weighs 10 or 12 pounds (5 kg) with all their accessories and equipment attached. If a modern soldier can do that a middle ages soldier can wield a sword that weighs half as much.

@averywhitaker3513

Ай бұрын

On the astronomical chance that anyone with the inclination sees this Remake this video with a jug of milk instead of the greatswords.

@Hoplib

Ай бұрын

Love it and I agree with everything you said, however, some historical context into the diets and exercise routines of the medieval and modern soldier might interest you. Medieval soldiers (especially the professional, non-conscripts) would look like fucking twigs next to modern soldiers. Their diets were trash, made up mostly of grain or whatever pitiable plant was produced in their region, providing only enough protein to maintain a stringy, sinewy physique. These men would spend nearly all their time training focused on technique, tactics, and formations with little time spent dedicated to increasing total force production. The modern soldier, conversely (using the USA as a model), is juicing with test, HGH, and whatever other chemical they can get their hands on, eating 200g of protein per day, and focusing far more on absolute strength when training due to the relative loads light infantry need to carry. Even medieval chain and plate mail would have been like a bag of feathers compared to the 80+ pound rucks that most light infantrymen carry around today. Add onto that the fact that they aren't losing muscle marching 10 hours a day between battles, and you arrive at two VASTLY different physiques. That's all. Ted Talk over 😊

@robertcampbell8070

Ай бұрын

​@@HoplibYour Ted Talk is wildly inaccurate, as like MAYBE 1% of modern infantrymen are using any type of performance enhancer, and certainly aren't eating 200g of protein a day nor likely even weight training regularly.

@isaiahhackshaw201

Ай бұрын

​@@averywhitaker3513 Prepare to see someone swinging two jugs of milk a full arms length away.

@mattmarzula

Ай бұрын

​@@averywhitaker3513I've seen you. I hear you.

I guess the best course of action would be letting him get tired?

@Scarletraven87

Ай бұрын

Arrow

@jameji_phd

Ай бұрын

He can just...stop moving? You act like he's just gonna mindlessly swing for an hour.

@NoPeace4theEvil

Ай бұрын

@@jameji_phd I didnt ask in a condescending way, just a question

@jeffreyhutchins6527

Ай бұрын

@@jameji_phd Well obviously he will keep swinging as long as those three attackers keep feinting attacks. Clown

@Dejawolfs

Ай бұрын

the aim of montante is to keep the sword moving with as little energy used as possible.

seeing the greatsword helicopter around like that made me really appreciate why you need armor when fighting with one of these things.

This is the most practical thing I’ve ever seen.

Do you guys train with traditional halberds too? Now there's a weapon that's heavy! A few sets with that and my arms definitely feel it. Well, for us it's the naginata, but same enough feeling I think!

@VirtualFechtschule

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, we do! These things are definitely a core workout! :)

Now, imagine the fight last longer than 15 seconds.

@jal-kx6tm

6 күн бұрын

there's probably not even a lot of power behind those swings. i've seen cheerleaders do things like this.

That was quite a lot of wiggle there.

Every time the tip pauses an opening is created.

Dark souls has gaslit the world into thinking great swords are impossible to use practically.

@GrassSaint33

Ай бұрын

It started way before that. All those Hollywood movies that make even regular one handed longswords look like they weigh a ton.

@kaden-sd6vb

24 күн бұрын

Monster Hunter too. Swaxe in sword mode is more comparable to real greatswords tho.

@tesladrew2608

22 күн бұрын

It has ultra great swords that weigh 20-30 "pounds"

@majormetcalf1225

22 күн бұрын

@@tesladrew2608 true I could imagine someone having some trouble with that.

@chazzx1018

17 күн бұрын

I've never played, but don't they have like 100 lb greatswords in that game.

In my experience the thinner steel can sometimes be even easier to swing than thicker materials due to the reduced air resistance (this is the reason why I usually hold my shortsword with the guard horizontally)

@KT-pv3kl

Ай бұрын

Air resistance is a negligible factor for swords even the big ones unless you have terrible edge alignment.

@Kronos_LordofTitans

Ай бұрын

@@KT-pv3kl in my sport edge alignment doesn't matter, hitting with the flat is even recommend as it reduces the risk of injury. We don't even wear protective equipment in a lot of cases

Very impressive, and brings Helms Deep flashbacks when the Berserkers attack the Wall.

I cannot imagine swinging that around for a full battle

You would get tired way faster than the surrounding group and eventually slow down enough to where they can find openings, good if you’re waiting on backup though

@VirtualFechtschule

2 ай бұрын

Yeah. Also, we do this scenario as a competitive sparring match regularly and it almost never lasts more than 30 seconds. Usually somebody makes a mistake that compounds into either side getting taken out completely

@asellandrofacchio7263

Ай бұрын

False

@sirultim8643

Ай бұрын

@@asellandrofacchio7263 buddy I doubt you even own a sword, how about you read the reply from the guy who literally tested it. ^^^

The fact that its 2024 and people STILL haven't grasped the concept of "leverage" is staggering.

@rue4585

Ай бұрын

Can you please elaborate how leverage is helping you to not be cumbersome and slow with a large weapon?

@lordhawkeye

Ай бұрын

​@@rue4585You wont. Their comment was just an empty comment for likes.

@Armoredcompany

Ай бұрын

@@rue4585 Did you even watch the video? I can't explain it any more eloquently then they did physically with their bodies. If you use the twin optical receptors located in the front of your skull, the answer will become apparent.

@springbloom5940

Ай бұрын

Whats more amazing is that they cant understand endurance. Great display, but note how every iteration is only a couple seconds. Thats because all he can do with it is the scripted gambit of a few swings and then hes done, because all hes doing is following the momentum of the first swing. It eventually plays out and then anyone who stayed out of the way for 3 secs, can have their way with him.

@Pussalia

Ай бұрын

What does the year have to do with it? I guarantee you if you hand anyone a long heavy thing, thought history, they'll figure out leverage pretty quickly

I love how the whole defensive aspect of the greatsword is pretty much “do you want to get close to a living blender?”

Was expecting the sword to keep getting heavier and the guy to get more and more jacked

That redirect at the guy behind you was smooth AF, if your interested in trying something I've been working on, when you swing underhand, as the blade moves forward, lift the same sides foot and pivot with the force, the alt side and set you back to prior position, or used to aid your advance, think of it like riding the momentum, I'm still working on chaining all together and keeping control of it but it's added a lot to my movement speeds

@VirtualFechtschule

2 ай бұрын

Thanks, was pretty happy with it. Sounds like something I'm trying to incorporate as well. Cool!

@randywilliams647

2 ай бұрын

I have lovely started referring to some of the movements it opens up to as ""animate mode" XD keep at it, live your content

@randywilliams647

2 ай бұрын

*anime not animate

Dude... this is so friggin motivating!

What I've learned here is that, not only are greatswords literally the same weight as my trainer longsword and CAN be used in an agile manner, but that doing so in an agile manner looks BADASS

One of my biggest pet peeves in movies and "realistic" fighting games is when swords are super slow and heavy. Good to see your video since most people apparently dont know the average steel longsword or greatsword is only 4-6 pounds

Your sword swinging always looks so nice and smooth. Would it also work so well if you hit targets in between or is this maybe the part, where the cumbersumness could come into play? I really have no idea and was just wondering.

@VirtualFechtschule

2 ай бұрын

Thanks! The flows are smooth because I cut and thrust through certain nodes where you can easily change direction. Once you impact something, it's usually a good idea to draw back into one of those nodes, so you can continue the flow again

@l.s.9095

2 ай бұрын

@@VirtualFechtschule Ahh, that makes sense. Thanks for the explaination!

@gtg021xx

Ай бұрын

So much skill and conditioning. Good thing those guys have swords and not long pointy sticks 😜!

"Just stand back for about 30 seconds, he'll tire himself out dancing."

@leviqueen1504

Ай бұрын

Well the smart ones dont do it until youre close enough to get whacked obviously

@Kosh800

Ай бұрын

@@leviqueen1504 The smart ones don't get into 3v1 in the first place. I don't care what sword he has, this dude is dead lol

@leviqueen1504

Ай бұрын

@@Kosh800 i like how you presume people only get attacked whole ready for it

@dragon12234

Ай бұрын

@@Kosh800 Eh. It depends. Largely the job of greatswords in Europe was to act as shock troops against pikes and other polearms. but more commonly as elite guards. Their job would be to fend off the attackers until help can arrive or whatever they are protecting can get to safety.

@Kosh800

Ай бұрын

@@dragon12234 I'm not saying they weren't well armed, armored, or trained. I'm just saying, if there's that many people with even a little training against any single person, they're fucked. And that's true for every person in a situation like that. For example, let's get 3 well trained, armed, and armored house guards against 20 armed peasants. Who wins? Numbers do eventually count for something.

Love this. It's not just a style but it's a way to use its size. When surrounded. Kind of like how nunchucks I know me something you want to constantly keep in motion in a fight. When you're surrounded and you have a weapon that's otherwise slow and cumbersome The swinging technique is basically how you can kind of keep your opponent guessing and hesitant. It can be taxing on your stamina but also be less than on your stem as long as you stay in motion correctly

I now want a steel greatsword of any weight from 2-3.3 kg...

@mekingtiger9095

11 күн бұрын

Regenyei Armory has got you covered! They even have one with 3.65kg!

Great swords aren't technically slow... until you have to unstick that sword from a soon to be corps or opponent incased in full armor.

@mekingtiger9095

Ай бұрын

If it hits a soft target, just pull the sword in a slicing motion and it won't be *that* major of a window of opportunity. If it's armored, the sword won't pen or get stuck in the armor anyway and will instead just "bonk" really, really hard at it with all the momentum, possibly causing some blunt damage to the target in the process.

One shieldman and he'd be done

@keyboardking8008

Ай бұрын

It feels like a shield is the answer but you have to account for multiple things - you shield is only on your LEFT while the 2h sword can rapidly swing around and come at you from the RIGHT - and if you fail the parry then your hand is flying off

@mikerouch416

Ай бұрын

@@keyboardking8008 you have a sword on that side and if you can't block it entirely (even bracing the sword off the shield) you can deflect and walk into him. Any armor and it'd be a joke. This guy's dealing with three people not working together. All they'd have to do is work from one side and corner him. I fight in armor and spar light weapons. This is just a show off video and inaccurate for actual fights.

@keyboardking8008

Ай бұрын

@@mikerouch416 the momentum from a swing of a 2h sword is powerfull , you will have to block that with the power of your wrist - the concept is simple : walk in , parry the swing , hit a gap in the armor - i think that in real life it doesn't play like that

@mikerouch416

Ай бұрын

@@keyboardking8008 not that powerful. A glaive hits way harder and same rule. Step to block/deflect and hit them at least once. They won't be able to recover for your follow up hits. Shield bashing/edge of striking would be enough. And if his weapon tip hits the ground he's done. Watch EMP SCA or battle of nations fights if you want to see what it plays out as. They've all gone down hill a little but it's better then this video.

@mattmarzula

Ай бұрын

​@@mikerouch416than* A man with a handful of rocks can defeat this guy. If he armored up? An arrow. One on one a greatsword isn't all that great. Three on one? Like you said, if they worked together, it'd be short work.

People have such a massive misunderstanding of weapons, this was the idea gtf away from me sword of doom. 😊

"Versus Siegfried" "Once enslaved to the evil blade, he now seeks to end its cursed existence."

Those 3 lads weren't even trying. You miss once and it's game over.

@tktspeed1433

Ай бұрын

I wouldn't want to approach a dude "randomly" spinning a greatsword either. They have to close the distance and getting hit by the greatsword is a game over as well.

@kacperwoch4368

Ай бұрын

Quite likely game over for both.

@keyboardking8008

Ай бұрын

You need to account for armor too - you cannot just say , well i touched him once with the 1 hand sword and he's dead , no he is not , you probably hit the plate for no damage - to win vs a knight in armor you have to either damage the plate mail or hit a gap ... while a 2 meter sword can at any time chop your limbs off - you will have a very hard time dodging it and there is no retreat if you fail to dodge

@High_Lord_Of_Terra

Ай бұрын

@@keyboardking8008 no, he misses once, you close the distance and do whatever you you want. 2 handed swords were ceremonial for a reason.

@memyshelfandeye318

Ай бұрын

@@High_Lord_Of_Terra Lol. Ceremonial. Like everything.

It's weight is mostly balanced at the center and because of inertia, physics for spinning is on your side as momentum is conserved now granted hitting and reaccelerating of the sword does become tiresome over time, but that is happening with all swords at some point maybe finish the fight with the 8 people within half an hour by stalling long enough for backup to arrive, as you usually do not just fight in a vacuum

I've looked at the movements in this video: arms, upper body, legs... Fighting with a Greatsword seems like the perfect full-body workout because you want to keep the blade in flow, moving. Much like a workout with a Macebell.

@VirtualFechtschule

15 күн бұрын

Pretty much, yes. :)

But notice all the energy he has to expend while the fencers casually stay out of range.

Just wait 5 mins till he gets tired and it's over for him.

@adornedshoe8464

Ай бұрын

5 mins of absolute chaos that some poor soul has to withstand. All it takes is one good strike in those five minutes and the opponent is done. It’s too bad that people don’t have health bars.

@Jurassic_Fart

Ай бұрын

@@adornedshoe8464lmao no. He has to keep moving it or else he’s vulnerable due to slow start up time. All you gotta do is dance around the outside of his range for 5-10 mins and he’s toast.

@fairfortune67

Ай бұрын

😂 yeah even if he just knicked someone they'd be done That shit would suck

@chrisp2843

Ай бұрын

@@adornedshoe8464 i wouldnt exactly stand fighting him 5 mins, probably just tired him out first then strike him down. in 5 mins im pretty sure he'd be nicked several times

@averywhitaker3513

Ай бұрын

​@@chrisp2843oh, probably. You would be in several pieces by that point. It's not like this is an animation. They aren't locked in for 30 seconds the moment they press a button. This isn't their idle pose

It's amazing how well it works when everyone else cooperates, or you are all alone, and not in armour, and only need to fight for a few seconds at a time.

@keyboardking8008

Ай бұрын

It works vs multiple opponents because he can swing around fast

@sethgoldberg3300

Ай бұрын

​@@keyboardking8008tackled in .2 seconds

@asellandrofacchio7263

Ай бұрын

​​@@sethgoldberg3300the guys who used two handed swords always had armour so no, they did destroy most normal soldiers with ease.

@user-sy5rt1yo6t

23 күн бұрын

You're a really unpleasant person to be around, huh? Figures why you'd antagonize strangers on the Internet.

@buscuitblitzkrieg2682

21 күн бұрын

Great swords were used to break up pike formations and by personal guards as a crowd control option against mobs, I’d rather have a greatsword if I had to fight 3 people than pretty much anything else

I think part of the issue is that they feel like they keep having to go bigger and bigger. Otherwise they’re worried there wont be enough hype, especially after endgame hype. But movies like Ant Man Quantumania just don’t work because Ant Man isn’t a main character. What they fail to realise is that starting straight off the bat with huge stakes and big changes isn’t engaging. The reason phase 1 worked is because characters were built from the ground up, with smaller-scale plots that weren’t all about the universe ending and time being deleted or whatever. Then these characters interweave and interact, and gradually the stakes get higher with the introduction of Thanos pretty early on compared to when he really gets involved. What they’ve tried to do is continue moving upwards without setting the grounds for the new characters, which ends up in the audience simply not having any reason to care about them. It’s probably part of the reason that GotG3 was actually decent.

No matter how many times I see it, the weight of swords always surprise me for some reason.

Meanwhile, there's a guy on youtube playing with his 60+ pound sword trying to become a real life Guts. No, this isn't made up.

@ZeusEBoy

Ай бұрын

tbf if you got good enough with 60lbs you'd be dam good with the 2kg version, also could probably break through most shields easily w a 60 lb sword, or a door, or a human. most old English greatswords were made to bludgeon rather than cut.

@wilcoxway

Ай бұрын

@@ZeusEBoy It’s not quite correct to say that English Greatsword were made to bludgeon instead of cut. They were still made to be sharp, since a sharp edge focuses the kinetic energy into a much thinner point of impact, making it deadlier. But since plate armor is a thing, Greatsword fighting was usually done by thrusting the swords at one another, aiming for disarms or knockdowns, then clubbing the opponent over the head with the crossguard. This move was called a murder strike. Blunt trauma to the head to bypass armor by holding the sword by the blade and using it like a hammer.

Some of those seem like they'd be _easier_ with a steel greatsword (depending on how flexible/flappy the substitute material is).

That 3.3 kg swing at the start looked like he almost cut his own face off

"It will keal!!" - Doug Marcaida😂

@UnIvErSaLsOuL94

2 ай бұрын

I appreciate this comment

@Muschelschubs3r

Ай бұрын

His name is Dagmar Kaida^^

If only people understood how much that last one is on the heavy end of historical greatswords, while the 2.3 and 2.8 are the more standard weights. Though I've also had an engineering student yell at me in the backyard of a party that your standard *longsword* would absolutely weigh 20lbs(9kg) and no less, and he wouldn't accept any evidence against his wild claims. So, you know, some people are just hopeless.

I mean... there is a noticeable (if subtle) speed difference, but thats to be expected as the weight gradually increases from different materials. But, the larger weapons of war, the weight is part of their design for combat. A sledgehammer, used for combat for example. You'd WANT the head to be heavier, because the impact would be significantly more harmful to the target.

I NEVER would've guessed that you could handle greatswords that quickly and well!

Girls: “I bet he’s cheating on me…” Guys:

wait its really only 2kg? i know swords are always way lighter than people think, but i figured a greatsword with good leverage is still probably like 5kg.

@VirtualFechtschule

2 ай бұрын

Nope. 2-4kg is a good range to be thinking about.

@Narguhl

2 ай бұрын

Over at Björn Rüthers Channel you can see experiments with a much heavier sword. 12gk iirc But Björn is a huge dude. Osker btw is not small. He is at least reagular sized and has an impressive core.

@VirtualFechtschule

2 ай бұрын

@@Narguhl Yeah, Björns twohander is something else. I remember it being around 6-7kg. It's well balanced though, so eminently wieldable if you're really tall. The original German style battle swords that I handled were a bit more to my size and ended up being in the 2-4.5 kg range. The ones with battle damage on them actually felt really quite well balanced. :)

@presarioman

2 ай бұрын

​@@VirtualFechtschulewhere have you been able to handle real ones from history? Post a video of that, I'd watch it!

@VirtualFechtschule

2 ай бұрын

@@presarioman Dutch Military Museum has a lot of original ones. I will probably be able to show something of that in the future. :)

Im no sword expert. So correct if i am wrong, but based on what i have seen, it almost looks like greatswords are more used for a defensive, area-of-denial type of combat style, rather than an offensive style. A regualr sword uses attacks and damage as its actual goal, while a greasword uses the threat of greater damage to keep people at bay.

It’s almost like they were designed to be wielded by a person!

Beautiful. Sends shivers

I saw a lot of people using "cientific" maths to determinate that the Dragon Slayer from Berserk has 200 KILOGRAMS They call me crazy when i say that it has as much 30 kg

@KT-pv3kl

Ай бұрын

Given the size and thickness of the blade 200kg sounds realistic for the dragonslayer blade from berserk. It's over an inch thick if I recall correctly

@wilhelmschmidt7240

Ай бұрын

​@@KT-pv3klI don't have measurements for what the blades size is, but if it's about 6' long and a full 12" wide it would need to be around 2" thick to be about 200kg. We have weight calculators for stock weights, so it's easy to calculate the weight if we have the dimensions.

Me in Dark Souls admiring the newly picked up weapon Zweihander.

The craftsmanship of a true period weapon, from weight to strength is absolutely Insane. We have forgotten. Would be terrifying to have a big boi carving his way through a field with a weapon he knows intimately.

PSA don't turn your back to your opponent. SMDH

@JCTheSniper15

Ай бұрын

How exactly are you gonna manage that when you have three dudes surrounding you lol

@Mmoll1990

Ай бұрын

@@JCTheSniper15 easy, they triple penetrate you from the front and sides; you're laying on your back. 👌

now i get why people described warriors spinning around zweihanders as terrifying. it IS terrifying

Me with the broom when my parents aren’t home

Your shoulders must be made of steel to be able to swing those swords like that.

I think people grossly overestimate how heavy a sword is, I mean any sword