NEW INFINITY WAR VIDEO ESSAY! You kept telling us that Thor was Waititi'd and not Russo'd... so we responded! Let us know what you think... :) kzread.info/dash/bejne/k4qut5Kmndfeo5M.html

@ToxicSkull0

5 жыл бұрын

Full Fat Videos everyone was Stan Lee’d Rip my hero :(

@ethansumner688

5 жыл бұрын

I like what you said about Winter Soldier, but I think that movie has waaay too much guns and violence. Say what you will, but it didn't really seem like a superhero movie.

@bradsparta6682

5 жыл бұрын

excuse me but iron man is my favorite hero, in infinity war he got his ass beat, even when he knew he was going to lose he kept fighting, and fighting, and fighting untill all his armor was destroyed and he had a sword stuck in him. He never gave up. You are wrong about tony sir. And in Avengers two the reason he was laughing was because he was stressed and scared so he hid it with laughing. you are salty

@stevenegan4983

5 жыл бұрын

Honestly, i loved iron man through it all but in 3 and avengers the whole point was Stark's downfall. You can't enjoy his way up if you didn't see his downfall

@stevenegan4983

5 жыл бұрын

Captain America's good boy persona is really boring. We know what he will do and we know what he stands for because he is the stereotypical good superhero. Stark on the other hand goes out of his way to create suits like the hulkbuster to counter other avengers should the need arise, has his own morals and decisions which give his bad situation in the first Avengers movie and Iron Man 1 all the more heavy seeing we all seen him make mistakes and do the wrong things for the right reasons.

Why is nobody speaking about the scene in age of ultron, where nick furry points out starks biggest fear: not dying but watching everybody else die! Thanos made his biggest fear come true.

@axelpetersson5787

5 жыл бұрын

Rev i nick furry...

@Koranthus

5 жыл бұрын

Scarlet Witch?

@kinghuntrlive

5 жыл бұрын

@@axelpetersson5787 full of fur

@tanner5809

5 жыл бұрын

Because not that many people like age of ultron

@vCLOWNSHOESv

5 жыл бұрын

No he didn't. All the people he saw dead in his vision are still alive.

The reason why Tony acts "bullish" towards Cap is because he was jealous of how his father always talked about him :|

@Adino1

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, Tony has some serious daddy issues.

@TheOriginalEdFry

5 жыл бұрын

Which got actual coverage in the Russo Movies... Good thing Tony got Russo'd

@Appolyon99

5 жыл бұрын

+Victor E Bell That's one minor facet of it.

@victorebell7383

5 жыл бұрын

@@TheOriginalEdFry Yeah, but he also pretty much broadcasted it in the Avengers: "That's the guy my Dad never shut up about?" It was pretty obvious in context as well, considering they explored Tony's daddy issues in Iron Man 2, granted how difficult it is to remember Iron Man 2.

@antona.8659

5 жыл бұрын

Which further proves how much of an asshole he is. Steve Rogers - at least in the comics, don't know if the movies followed that - grew up in an abusive home with an alcoholic father who was laying hands on him and his mother. Stark should shut the hell up.

The way Tony initially interacted with the Avengers is exactly how I expected. Loner characters are usually a bit standoff-ish when they're forced to work in a team.

@rialyandriamiseza9814

5 жыл бұрын

In addition to that, he later revealed he was jealous of Steve because of the way his father kept bragging about him. He believe this is why he was always willing to oppose his authority during Avengers.

@catspaw3092

4 жыл бұрын

Wasn't the entire team a bit loners themselves? They really didn't want to work with each other.

@TheMichaelmyth

4 жыл бұрын

@@catspaw3092 Bit late but.... Tony was the only full-on loner other then Bruce and that was mainly due to the Hulk. Steve and Thor have fought with people before, Steve in the war as a solider and as a well Captain, Thor has been in countless battles due to his age and has several friends he fights with often. Even if he fought alone Thor still had experience in team combat. Clint and Widow are agents of shied and have previous battles under their belt together. Tony has never once fought with a team and even before he became Iron man he still preferred to work solo. I think you're confusing a reluctant team up of random people of people being loners.

@TheMichaelmyth

4 жыл бұрын

@Daniel Ezulike It depends on which Batman you're talking about. There's so many nowadays. Batman is usually like Tony in many ways. He always tends to see the other members as helpers rather then equals. One of the main reasons Batman helped found the JL was as a contingency for if he ever went rouge (evil) or brainwashed. In most of the continuing (more than one movie) JL movies Batman is constantly going off and doing things by himself and then people, usually Super man, would yell at him for it . "We're a team Bruce not a solo act. This isn't Gotham anymore we all need to work together". Basically how it goes. Tony and Bruce tend to want to do things solo because They think their the only one who can do or at least the best B They don't want to endanger other people or have them get in the way.

@VezWay007

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheMichaelmyth doesn't Batman also have a plan to defeat every member of JL? Pretty much like Tony's Hulkbuster

I dunno... Tony saying "I have a plan: attack." is something that fits with his character, as Tony would usually make that kind of joke or comment. Though Whedon ran with that instead of having Tony make an actual plan like he would actually followup with.

@JayPlusForerunner

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I agree

@raphaelrodgers7407

8 ай бұрын

And it’s so weird because he had come up with a plan at the end of the movie to fight the Levithan, why not there? I guess because Marvel really wanted Iron Man Vs. Thor.

Tony didn't just "snap out of" his issues in Iron Man 3. That feeling of vulnerability fed into his desire to build Ultron, his suit of armor around the world. When Ultron went rogue and Tony started laughing it was at the irony that the thing he'd built to protect the world against his fears had become the very thing he feared.

@briel0008

5 жыл бұрын

it was indeed an IRONy!

@thechames3164

5 жыл бұрын

This is also why he constructed the nanotech suit, and will wear its storage unit anywhere, to be ready for anything.

@danieldizon2814

5 жыл бұрын

Briel 000 Why can’t I both like and dislike your comment.

@zjaeriqsanders1731

5 жыл бұрын

im really glad im not the only one defending tony's behavior in age of ultron. its not even just the irony, i feel like his laughing is also the realization that despite his best efforts, hes managed to make the same mistake he made in the first iron man movie. thats a big blow to take, and on top of that everyone in that room is pissed at tony, including himself, so he gets defensive and starts akting like kindof an ass.

@shanez1215

5 жыл бұрын

Laughter can come as a response to extreme stress, guilt or anxiety. See Walter White in the second to last episode of season 4 of Breaking Bad. I think that's what they were going for, but I don't think they executed it well.

Whether you like Iron Man or not, Robet Downey Jr's performance is something to appraise

@slownix-6917

5 жыл бұрын

@Bob Bobbertson You get the point jackass.

@Sparklenuts

5 жыл бұрын

@Bob Bobbertson yeah it should've been praise or uphold, my bad haha

@jgeorge2693

5 жыл бұрын

Oh no question - just like HUGH JACKMAN = WOLVERINE. RDJ2 = IRON MAN

@t.l3846

5 жыл бұрын

@Scott Summers you try and act like a billionaire, philanthropist, playboy genius and I'll believe you. Playing a smart person is a struggle for actors let alone convincing people he is a genius level IQ. That's why all the batman actors are not convincing as the worlds greatest detective.

@wesley2936

5 жыл бұрын

@Scott Summers Rewatch 14:10 & 14:51 and then say that again

Pleas remember that Wanda gave Tony that horrible vision of the Avengers DEATH in Age of Ultron. His actions in that whole movie can be traced back to the single vision where he feels all the fear and guilt that originated with the Battle in New York. Yes, he laughs when he realizes he created Ultron, but only because he feels that he was fufilling his goal of protecting his friends and the rest of the Earth. Recall that he wanted a "suit of armor around the world".

@gamzetiryaki9307

5 жыл бұрын

These people always see what they want.They don't want to see that point of creating Ultron wasn't bad or evil.He created Ultron to protect the world.But they always ignore this fact.

@elishawilson1429

4 жыл бұрын

@@gamzetiryaki9307 it's not that they don't see that it's the fact that banner warned him that creating Ultron was a bad idea from the getgo he messed with something he didn't understand he had good intentions but it still backfired badly because he didn't fully think enough to consider that it could go wrong messing with artificial intelligence and put the world at risk

@souvikbose8583

4 жыл бұрын

@@elishawilson1429 that's not the point, the video argues that in age of Ultron tony was a dick for the sake of being a dick, this is clearly not the case, tony intentions to create Ultron was good, and when shit backfired he did feel bad, but for him even if Ultron was a failure, it was worth trying for a chance that it might work. a lot of people ignore his conversation with fury about his nightmare where the worst thing he can imagine is everyone dying while he survives.those lines prove he is not being an ass for the sake of it, he did what he thought would protect everyone, lets also not forget that the guy literally said tony is overpowered in age of Ultron because hulk buster defeated hulk , completely ignoring hulk was destroying it and tony basically cheap shotted hulk, and tony destroyed Ultron's body while cap struggled. I for one loved this change, cause hulk destroying hulk buster is incredibly clichéd, so why not let the armour do what it is designed to do, and at the same time it made clear that the only reason hulk got ko'ed is because of a cheap shot, the second example doesn't make any sense iron man is basically a human sized tank with weapons enough weapons for an army, and cap is slightly better than the best athletes, no shit iron man can ko Ultron, he built him and has the fire power to go toe to toe with him, hell I was more surprised when tony didn't wreck both cap and bucky in civil war, just fly out of the damn place and carpet bomb the damn place

@3Rayfire

4 жыл бұрын

The point is the obsession. Ultron falls squarely on Tony's shoulders because it was a horrible idea from the start. Banner told him it was a bad idea, but Tony *knew* that no one else would agree to it because he didn't tell anyone beforehand. He knew they'd say no. Ultron was a predictable problem. Tony thought he knew best and it blew up in Sokovia's face. His intentions were pure, of course they were, Tony's a good person, but his arrogance was absolutely devastating. And if he was trying to take JARVIS to the next level that's one thing, but he was experimenting with the Mind Stone, which was catastrophically stupid.

@dragonlord1935

4 жыл бұрын

@@3Rayfire Except it wasn't a horrible idea. At this point Tony had already "meddled" with A.I before. J.A.R.V.I.S and F.R.I.D.A.Y were both A.I's with their own personalities and objectives. Tony said that he didn't tell anyone because the Scepter would only be there for three days, he wasn't being a dick because he was arrogant; he saw an opportunity that was only going to be there for a little while because Thor was then going to take the Scepter with him to Asgard. Imagine if you were in Tony's shoes and had the means to achieve true world peace but you only had a window of three days, I imagine you wouldn't waste that time debating away either. Oh, and Banner did end up agreeing with Tony and worked with him to create both Ultron and later Vision. Why? because he realized that Tony's idea had potential. Also, at this point nobody knew that the Scepter was actually the Mind Stone. Thor found that out later in a vision when Vision was being created (God that sounds weird to say). Do you know what else Thor realized back then? Stark was right. He said it himself. The power of the Mind Stone needed to be harnessed and weaponized to prepare for the future and that's why he used his lightning to create Vision.

I’d love to see your thoughts on Iron Man after End Game

@Wildcard-Jack-47

4 жыл бұрын

T.L. KING dead

@starceasilvester1573

4 жыл бұрын

Listen here you litle shit(joke coment)

@thatjoshwright5577

4 жыл бұрын

He doesn’t get around much these days

@tizyman7120

4 жыл бұрын

Iron Man is already awesome, that garbage make him look like an idiot

@rsharkie2464

4 жыл бұрын

Dust

uh, excuse me, Thor didn't get Russo'd, he got Waititi'd

@jerner17

5 жыл бұрын

Gary yeah if anything they kinda downgraded him (not all the way to Thor 2 levels) because I liked him without an eye and not needing his hammer or any weapon to be the god of thunder. Still loved him in the movie just kind of a nitpick from me

@alicebunnymera

5 жыл бұрын

Literally came to see if someone else said it first before I said it myself. Its such a disservice to Waititi to say that the Russo's turned him around.

@RikudoMadaraUchiha

5 жыл бұрын

Waititi fixed Thor but Russo's perfected him

@beemcgee170

5 жыл бұрын

@@RikudoMadaraUchiha eeeeh. Honestly, no. I loved Infinity War and even Thor in it, but the Russos definitely undermined a lot of Ragnarok's character work, and basically shat all over that movie's theme of Thor's home being his people. Just, timeline wise almost immediately after Ragnarok. It was a bit of a sour note.

@bctalicorn809

5 жыл бұрын

He got Waititi'd first, and then Russo'd. So, he's not wrong, just not specific. Waititi laid down the ground work for making him an interesting character again, and the Russos added depth to that character. I disliked Thor's constant jokey attitude in Ragnorok, but after watching Infinity War and seeing where it leads his character, I realized it was just how he was dealing with his pain. That's a mark that Waititi missed for me, but the Russos made more apparent. In Ragnorok, it worked more to serve a comedy and to entertain the audience, but the Russos took that, put a spin on it, and made it serve their action thriller.

Gotta say I disagree with you on one thing. I'm very glad they didn't kill off Pepper. The "killing off the girlfriend to give the main character angst" cliche is overdone and tired. We could've done without the fakeout but that's another point.

@murciadoxial8056

5 жыл бұрын

yeah, a much better death would have been rhodes, that is also a cliche, but less of a lazy cliche, and in htat particular case, earned and reasonable

@Stonegoal

5 жыл бұрын

Iron Man 3 was messed up on many levels. I'm still waiting for Pepper to be on the Avengers. Iron Man can stay in the back and keep inventing stuff and manage from behind.

@mechajay3358

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah remember what happened with Gwen Stacy in Amazing Spider-Man 2. Good call on Marvel's part not to go through with it.

@Zenn_Chan

5 жыл бұрын

I still have issue with what they did with Rhodes. He gets crippled.....and that's it. There was a lot of stuff they could do with that, but it was just dropped

@jayfoli-archer7185

5 жыл бұрын

@@Stonegoal maybe after the phone call in infinity war, Pepper will don the Rescue armor or any other suit and go after Tony to help him in IW Part 2

The moment at the start of endgame where, on his return to Earth, the first thing he says is “I lost the kid” was one of the best touches. Really emphasised that relationship.

Not disagreeing with the video, but at the same time I kinda liked Tony in Avengers, and that part where he says "I have a plan. Attack" is pretty badass. But to each his own

@manuelschneider1105

4 жыл бұрын

I think Tony's reason for responding to Cap that way is, Tony is used to handle things alone, Cap, as a soldier, is used to work in a team. Cap wants to make a plan, Tony wants to get going and improvise as needed...

@July-gj1st

3 жыл бұрын

Tony probably had a plan, except at that point he is used to work alone, so his plan probably was only for himself. Explaining everything to cap would have slowed them down.

@travioli_yeah4270

2 жыл бұрын

Their*

@Sidd880

2 жыл бұрын

@@travioli_yeah4270 what?

@ballisticboo7808

2 жыл бұрын

"I have a plan. Attack" is one of my favorite lines in the whole MCU. That plane scene in general is just gold.

The whole "you killed my parents" thing was actually the best moment of Civil War, DC tried pulling the same thing off but unsuccessfully as a DC fan I always watched the final moments of Civil War just to see what BVS might have been if it was done correctly.

@erikcarlsson6052

5 жыл бұрын

A Freaking Axe If that was the best moment you should know that he says ”he killed my parents”*

@charlenek11

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, that scene in Civil War is the heart of the film - the rending of the relationship and the team. It is powerful and masterfully executed. Whereas BvS was a bunch of dreck that had to introduce Doomsday so that they could justify putting in Wonder Woman. Its basic premise was good, but wasted. If they really stuck to Batman and Superman it could have been great.

@mikelmariscal2591

5 жыл бұрын

MARTHA!! WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME??

@ImThe5thKing

5 жыл бұрын

@@erikcarlsson6052 if you would REALLY know it, you'd know he says "He killed my mom."**

@jgeorge2693

5 жыл бұрын

It was well done because they developed it starting with Winter Soldier. Not only did Bucky do it but Cap knew when he was watching the video Zola showed him

Tony is intentionally being a douche in Avengers 1 because he doesn't trust anyone he's working with other than Banner due to SHIELD's shady behavior. And he's predisposed to dislike Cap because Cap was the thing his dad talked about forever and there's resentment there that isn't Cap's fault. But it's still there. Avengers 2 he's a douche because he feels like he's the only one who's traumatized by what happened in Avengers 1, but deals with it by convincing himself that he's the only one who understood what happened fully.

@Notetaker1790

5 жыл бұрын

Not to mention I think the scene in age of ultron where it truly showed this behaviour and that was my favorite scene of the whole movie.

@SpeedySecrets215

5 жыл бұрын

Yess 👏🏻👏🏻 I was going to the comment

@bmagada

5 жыл бұрын

Or the only thing that Whedon can lock onto is that characteristic. He takes what he was given in the phase one movies and rolled with it and he did the same with phase 2, that's why Cap was way better by the 2nd movie. He didn't give him any characterization or really even an arc. The only two characters that grew from their start point were Scarlet Witch and Ultron and Hawkeye a bit. They were both good movies, but they weren't good movies by themselves. If they didn't have the structure of the phase movies to do all the growth for him then they would fall apart.

@MathersMahmood

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you

@cdreid9999

5 жыл бұрын

it's literally a character train that goes back to the beginning of his character. Remember.. his superpower is being born rich and powerful. Comic book ironman wouldnt be popular...

If Pepper died we would not get the great scenes she has in Avengers Endgame.

@HybridTheGamer

4 жыл бұрын

She has Tony's death the funeral and when he tells her about the time heist she was definitely good in the movie because of the fact that he was leaving behind his daughter and the love of his life

@briantaylorcloe7725

4 жыл бұрын

... And those actions scenes with Tony, Peter, Ladyvengers, etc

@HybridTheGamer

4 жыл бұрын

@@briantaylorcloe7725 I don't know why I ignored those parts the A Force is shit though that's like my only problem with the movie

@fissilewhistle

4 жыл бұрын

“You can rest now” wouldn’t have been nearly such a heart-tugging moment if it were anybody else but Pepper.

@MrMisanthrope84

4 жыл бұрын

Say what you like about the actress but that death scene would not have had anywhere near as much punch without Gwyneth Paltrow's Pepper being there.

One of my favourite moments in all of the MCU so far is the look Tony gives Cap after he's seen the footage of the murder of his parents. It's like he's begging Cap for an answer, for a way out of this trap Zemo has led them into.

@Spider-Nefilo

Жыл бұрын

that scene is absolute gold and RDJ's acting just makes it better

Tony Stark: You throw another moon at me and I'm gonna lose it. I got scared when he said that.

@FullFatVideos

5 жыл бұрын

its sooooo milk

@sergeantassassin3425

5 жыл бұрын

To be fair, he only threw PART of a moon at him. Had Thanos thrown the WHOLE moon, everyone would have died. Except Thanos, cause Space Stone. I doubt even Stark could tank a celestial body of that size, and at this point Strange was out of commission, so he can't just turn it into a bajillion butterflies.

@BlackViperMWG

5 жыл бұрын

@sergeantassassin3 I think Thanos just threw pieces of the moon, it wasn't precise, more like meteor shower.

@trevynlane8094

5 жыл бұрын

Thanos didn't want to kill them until he got the time stone, so he was counting on Tony stopping the bulk of the moon from hitting. Indeed, it was only a diversion to beat the crap out of Dr. Strange and the rest of the group without Tony backing them up.

@JosepiThe13th

5 жыл бұрын

Trevyn Lane But then Thanos goes on to almost kill Tony anyway? Don’t think so, bud. Thanos was very much out to kill. The only one he knew he wasn’t allowed to kill was Strange. The others were just minor obstacles that could either be exposed of or casually tossed aside. Stark was the exception to the “minor obstacles” thing due to his massive amount of power.

18:13 - "Tony goes to a really dark place in Civil War" ... QUEENS

@DemonMage

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the chuckles.

@The_Punisher

5 жыл бұрын

😂

@morganyoung3557

5 жыл бұрын

atomicmrpelly Queens is so dark and brutal that is makes Westeros look like a walk in the park. 🙃

@SaadKhan-jm7wm

5 жыл бұрын

Its not that bad, I live there...

@bitharne

5 жыл бұрын

Really bad point in Vid. Extends from Civil War Tony being a horrible human being. Lies to a little kid to back him up. Then again, i think this is what happened in the comic too so...generally Tony is a pretty bad person.

That "The Fallen Avenger" on the thumbnail is even more touching after Endgame.

@asshatt6908

5 жыл бұрын

I honestly thought the video was about endgame before checking the upload date tbh

25:17 just look at those eyes, superb acting.

@FullFatVideos

5 жыл бұрын

indeed!

@VenhedisKaffas

5 жыл бұрын

Robert Downey Jr is such a great actor. Can't help but respect him immensely.

@smrttgrl

5 жыл бұрын

Omg! It's Amazing!!! And at 14:58a And Caps eyes, they look like they'refilled with tears, feeling so sad for Tony and knowing he was caught...those scenes only work because of how great those two portray the characters. I love immediately after, Tony reacts to the betrayal like and actual hit to his physical body, recoiling from Steve. The trying to calm himself and unable to and just going after them. Freaking magic!

5:32 The inappropriate chuckle in A:AoU is one of the symptoms of Stark's PTSD. Basically, he gets it once from the captivity and becomes Iron Man. He gets it again from the wormhole nuke and the Battle of New York, which cranks that "I gotta protect everything" up to 11. The conflict with Ultron is a bit of a wake-up call for him, and he starts getting a handle on things again. But he's still trying to be Mr. Fix-it by signing the Accords, then mentoring Parker, and even in A:IW, he's gunning to be the one to take out Grimace as a personal vendetta rather than a save-the-universe thing. It's actually a rather consistent trait post-captivity. it may not always produce the Stark we like to see, but it's a terribly real character arc. IM3 and A:AoU are his second Act, his low point. We're not, I think, SUPPOSED to like him as much. My point is that STARK was/is broken, not the way he was written/presented.

@Thrashman138

5 жыл бұрын

Well said. I think the dude who made this video totally misunderstood Stark's characterization in the two Avengers movies.

@FullFatVideos

5 жыл бұрын

I would disagree- I think Civil War and heading into Infinity War is his low point- thats when we see everything stripped away from him (in a similar way to Thor) and he tries to overcome the most strife. Whedon himself has said that his Stark is "on the spectrum" whereas the Russos, for me, go for more "tortured genius". To each their own, and I'm glad one of us could enjoy him in those movies! Thanks for watching

@WasLilChrisnowbigish

5 жыл бұрын

Also isn't he also still at least partially affected or at very least recovering from the Scarlet Witch's mind magic during that scene.

@olstar18

5 жыл бұрын

Moemura actually scarlet witch's mind magic only brought up what was already in him. That was his fears from the first avengers hitting him over the head. Just so happens that it is also the issues he was dealing with in ironman 3.

@Ben10man2

5 жыл бұрын

I think that was the idea, but it was not handled well

I went to see infinity war on opening night alone. Left the wife and kids at home. The collective inhale from grown men when tony got stabbed almost made a vacuum in the theater. I have never been so emotionally attached to anything that I’m not related to.

@valiantvideo9us

5 жыл бұрын

You can relate these MCU movies to old westerns.. These are the heroes of our generation!

@repoocsrepoop

5 жыл бұрын

Like the theater just imploded 😂

@CrazyDutchguys

5 жыл бұрын

same with the collective "NOOOOOO" when Spiderman went poof

@jadelrose

5 жыл бұрын

The Dutchinator LMAO even Josh Brolin was craping his pants when Spidey went, he was scared for his career XD. While i was just crying.

@meris8486

5 жыл бұрын

Surpised the wife and kids didn't wanna see it.

Tony: "Watching all my friends die, you'd think that'd be as bad as it gets. Nope, that wasn't the worst part." Fury: "The worst part is you didn't"

Iron Man didn't need fixing. He needed better friends...

@bigzeezy1733

4 жыл бұрын

Hmm... Explain

@oshinvats7304

4 жыл бұрын

So true

@c727

4 жыл бұрын

And that´s the TEA

@MTHSLH482

3 жыл бұрын

Tony kinda be hanging out with a bad influence

And THIS is why the MCU is great. They are changing the superhero genre. They are making it viable. We are, in essence, not watching a movie about super-powered beings just to see powers. We are watching a movie about a character that happens to have super powers. There is a difference. I guarantee that Logan and Deadpool wouldn't have been made if the MCU failed. Expect this to be a standard yearly genre like horror, rom-coms, war dramas, zombie flicks, etc.

@CarliLove

5 жыл бұрын

Superhero histories are not a genre, but a story structure. Is like cop movies. Besides that, I agree with you.

@Andrei-ck7lv

5 жыл бұрын

The MCU is great, I can't wait to re-watch all the movies before the 2nd part of avengers 4 (just to settle my thirst for more avengers movies), however to say that they are changing the superhero genre and making it viable feels like you're forgetting about the dark knight trilogy.

@nashonsmith2519

5 жыл бұрын

@Bob Bobbertson You just said it yourself, you watched LESS than half the Marvel movies......and you then expect to enjoy Infinity War?! Of course you don't care about anything in the movie. You don't know any of the characters and their motivations so when they finally meet their match and get dusted, it doesn't mean anything. Do you just watch a few episodes of a season and then the season finale? And saying it is a trend setting genre for film isn't naive at all. It is just as much a genre as a Western is at this point. Look at all the superhero movies that have came out and the countless more coming out as well. M. Night Sham is making his own "superhero" movie in Glass. And the movie Brightburn is a superhero spinoff movie. Lets face it, superheroes are big money these days and the audiences are only getting bigger. Superheroes are the new Western............and they'll probably die like they did too.

@adammonks591

5 жыл бұрын

Wow, you're one deluded moron.

@adammonks591

5 жыл бұрын

@Bob Bobbertson although you're more stupid than the original post. Were you dropped on your head as a child?

*you're not the only one cursed with knowledge*

@WOHBuckeye

5 жыл бұрын

All Seeing Eye of Agimoto that might be the most revealing line of the last 10 years worth of movies. Thanos knows it and Stark always knew it. It will come down to them. With some other sacrifices to save the universe.

@liboud22

5 жыл бұрын

*My only curse is YOU*

@eyuhn

5 жыл бұрын

*_goosebumps_*

@dannyhuskerjay

5 жыл бұрын

I know your soul, it is much like mine cursed with knowledge

@JoaoVictor-gh7ce

5 жыл бұрын

Said Tai Lopez

Did anyone ever realize that Iron Man straight up ENDED THE WAR ON TERROR in the MCU.

@justjoe233

5 жыл бұрын

until the next movie comes out

Thanos first appeared in the comics, as an Iron Man villain, in issue #59, I think it was. That same issue was Drax's first appearance as well.

@aperson7329

5 жыл бұрын

I think it was 55

@themeraldoll3398

4 жыл бұрын

Drax was already appeared on very first marvel comic but we could not see him

I don't see it so much as the Russos "fixing" Iron Man as they continued the natural trajectory of Tony's character. Tony was always arrogant, and after defeating two big time villains and walking away relatively unscathed through it all, of course he's going to be even more arrogant than before. Going into the Avengers, he was tested and shaken by the attack on New York, which is reflected in Iron Man 3 and ultimately paid off in Age of Ultron, when he creates Ultron as a way of coping with his PTSD: he'll never have to be in danger again if the fleet of AI units is protecting the world. Thus, it's only natural for him to be guilty and seeking redemption from Civil War on. He created Ultron and then essentially tore the team apart and now he's going to blame himself for Peter's death even though it wasn't his fault. It's called character growth, and yes, some writers handled it better than others, but they all contributed to this amazing arc that RDJ has performed flawlessly.

@anoldlady1293

5 жыл бұрын

Your comment wiped out the entire video's existence. What you say here is more true than the video itself and in less than 26 minutes

@zorex.

5 жыл бұрын

AnOldLady agreed

@AnimeWars2002

5 жыл бұрын

In Avengers Tony acts the way he does because he's been the big dog. He's never met the Hulk. His childhood was in the shadow of the tales of Captain America. He never felt he had his fathers respect and love but he knew Cap did. So of course he goes into Avengers being a prideful dick. Here's something to remember, outside his close friends, he comes off as a prideful dick to everyone else. Just because he stopped selling weapons and took some responsibility didn't do a 180 on his personality. More like 90 degrees. As the film goes on Tony get's more humbled by not being the strongest and having to accept this new status quo. Iron man 3 - Tony is never cured of his PTSD but he learns to manage it.......until he doesn't in AOU. I can see the issue moreso here then Avengers. Some of this payoff doesn't occur until a later movie. AOU - Okay he's laughing not because it's funny but he's having a mental breakdown. We learned about this in the first two films. When Tony is in a situation he can't control he resorts to the sarcasm and doing something reckless that he can control. Rhodes pointed this out in the first film. We see it when he goes off to the middle east in the suit. In Iron Man 2, the racing scene and getting drunk and starting a fight with Rhodes. Now as to being overpowered. It established that Tony has gotten very good at making these suits. Additionally Ultron's body is just some metal. He mocks Tony as much. He'll just jump into a another build. He destroys that version with an upgraded Ultron suit. Of course Iron Man can trash Ultrons body no problem. Ultron doesn't care. Now I could see the lack of consequences because starting with building Vision, things a smooth sailing for Stark. Then comes Civil War to deal with the fallout. The PTSD is still there but Tony has shifted focus from building a bunch of random suits to building the one perfect one. Now as to the Whedonisms. Take all these characters from their little worlds and force them into one room. Thor doesn't know these people. he was preachy to Jane and co before he got to know them. Same thing happened in AOU. He knew the Avengers and was less formal. Cap is no constantly reminding people he's from the 40's. The one scene you point out is him trying to fit in. For once he's not the odd man out. In a way that reminds us of who Steve was before he joined the war. Beyond that he's like Rhodes minus the friendship with Tony. In the end it's hard to address these films after the fact. Sitting in a theater, you didn't know Infinity War would happen. For me personally I look at these films as whole and see the wider story.

@gamerpaul89

5 жыл бұрын

Nah Tony just sucked after Iron Man 1 until the Russos got a hold of him in Civil War. Iron Man 3 is actually among my least favorite mcu movies comparable to Thor the Dark World

@zorex.

5 жыл бұрын

@@gamerpaul89 i disagree with you. but that's just my opinion

That scene when tony gets over powered by thanos and nearly dies for ONE drop of blood, really showed that some times, he CAN'T win.

@a-drewg1716

5 жыл бұрын

but as stated in Iron Man two, "If you could make God bleed, people would cease to believe in Him. There will be blood in the water, the sharks will come"

@shmookins

5 жыл бұрын

A-DrewG No, that's weak. Because that talks about god status: a fallacy waiting to be shown as such. It breaks down the image but not the literal power. THanos is mighty not because people think he is through lies. He is really actually powerful despite no one knowing who he is- especially after the fall of his people in Titan. If you want to take down the pope (which is a false image of power) you make him bleed in public. But if you want to take down power such as Thanos, you really need to out power him. There are no smoke and mirrors with Thanos' powers. You can see hope crumble in Tony's eyes when Thanos delivers the 'drop of blood' line. Tony knew he has nothing, did nothing, and everything failed. That realization from Tony himself shows your sentence as being false- and why I love the Thanos character: because he really was a match not just for Tony, but for freaking every superhero out there and he took down the lot of them at once. Now THAT'S how you make a threat! Thanos is the first villain that made me feel he was an actual threat.

@kingkeefage

5 жыл бұрын

@@shmookins It's not about making the public see it, only themselves. They are the ones that need to know that this strange guy with all of this incredible power ISN'T something on par with a god, therefore they have the confidence to defeat him. Maybe, that didn't manifest by the end of the film, but it will play a factor for some of the heroes later on. "If it bleeds, we can kill it."

@shmookins

5 жыл бұрын

@@kingkeefage Can't wait for the sequel! I'm on radio silence. I won't even watch a trailer or look at a poster. :D

@kingkeefage

5 жыл бұрын

@@shmookins I totally understand. The trailer did give away a few things, but it seemed like it was designed to give us as little as they could about it. If you do want to make sure you are completely caught up before next year, they have comics that take place between Infinity War and Avengers 4. They aren't necessary for following the movies, but it would satisfy any desires to see anything without really spoiling the movie itself. Dude, I can't wait either! I hope you enjoy it.

He was also an egomaniac narcissist, so being teamed up with other heroes he was stand offish. In his solo movies no one is competing or telling tony what to do. So I think it does mesh well with his character. Also I think the laughing at the creation of Ultron was a copeing mechanism to deal with his failure.

I honestly really felt for Tony in the final conflict of CivilWar. He just found out his parents death was actually a murder and that the murderer was within striking distance. Anybody could be understood for lashing out like that. Also his noteable reluctance to actually battle Cap since he was his friend but the betrayal he felt when Cap stood in his way. In Infinity War I loved that Tony went all in against Thanos and despite not having super powers managed to do what no one else had done so far in the film, make Thanos bleed. Thanos seemed to respect that Tony didnt even try to run but continued fighting with everything he had knowing his odds of winning were 1 in 14,000,605 and that any bit he let up would move him farther from that one chance. Watching Peter "dust" was Stark seeing his hope for a better future and all of his work he had put into it fail and literally turn to dust. As said in Ultron in his encounter with Fury, TS "Watching my friends die, you would think that would be as bad as it gets. Nope, that wasn't the wprst part" NF-" The worst part...is that you didn't" And in IW his nightmare came true.

I have the feeling that when Thanos said "All of that for a drop of blood", he was referring not to the fight Iron Man put on, but to the entirety of Tony's life since he and Yinsen decided to build the first suit.

@adderous

5 жыл бұрын

I don't think Thanos meant that when he said it, but that's certainly how Tony would have heard it.

@LostbyElysium

5 жыл бұрын

It’s also pretty cool that despite all the other people fighting thanos and all the things they do to hurt him, like throwing a ship at him or pistol whipping, tony is the only one to get a good clean strong shot to make thanos bleed

@HarryL2020

5 жыл бұрын

Loki is alive, he didn't turn into his true form.

@adderous

5 жыл бұрын

...Thor shoves an entire axe through his chest, and would have killed him, had he not had the time stone.

@stevenwoods5787

5 жыл бұрын

great point. thanos was only talking about the fight on titan, every fucking thing they threw at him and that's all they got out of it, a small drop of blood. but yeah, tony would've been thinking of everything from Ultron, building a army of suits, new York, everything

One critique of this video: I don't think enough credit is given to RDJ himself (who apparently is very prepared and improvisational in the role). It seems to me that he's bringing a lot of the darkness and intensity that you're crediting the Russos with. (Also, while I do agree that there was a lull in Tony's arc around Phase 2, there is still some interesting picking apart of his narcissism that fuels those films and feeds into his Civil War "Russo Renaissance" period).

@FullFatVideos

5 жыл бұрын

That's true! Maybe I should have mentioned him in my disclaimer. For the record- the Russos would have nothing without RDJ performing in the role x

@blackman7249

5 жыл бұрын

I 100% agree. Give that part to someone else and Ironman is a failure. A perfect example of that is Two and a half Men. Same writers, same everything except for one major change. And that tv show wasn’t the same. And it tanked. So you can’t tell me that it’s all about the writing and directing. Some actors can just deliver lines the way they should be. The realized that two weeks into making Back to the Future. RDJ was great in Weird Science, I think I’m the only person I know make that connection, and he’s just one hell of an actor. You can tell he enjoys what he does. Good point my friend.

@MrBrachiatingApe

5 жыл бұрын

RDJ is the reason the MCU exists. He is magnificent in that role--and you're right. I think he's bringing a ton of the darkness, conflict, torment and outward egotism that RDJ probably felt as a young actor who got addicted to drugs.

@4eversupersonicgirl

5 жыл бұрын

it's come to the point where the two men are intrinsic. RDJ isn't playing iron man. he is iron man.

@morganyoung3557

5 жыл бұрын

There is even the fact that the MCU wouldn’t the massive movie success that it is today if it wasn’t for the amazing performance of RDJ. If anyone else was in the role like say Tom Cruise who was strongly considered for the role before RDJ was cast it wouldn’t have been as successful. I do think box office wise they would have made good money, but without the charm of RDJ I don’t think that it wouldn’t have drawn enough people back for more. Also people love a good story about a man rising up after being brought so low which reflected in RDJ’s real life which helped bring about the same perspective on his Tony. Tony both in the movies and the comics is a man who wrestles with his inner demons and usually finds a way to overcome them which is why his story works and RDJ understands that perfectly, it is also why Tony Stark and RDJ feel so much like the same man too.

Tony's easily the best character of the entire MCU and one of the most complex. He gets treated like complete crap but he keeps trying/doing the right thing and his entire goal was to prepare for a threat nobody else was paying attention to or took seriously. Every time someone talked down to him or treated him badly I just wanted to lash out. The guy is trying to gain redemption for things that aren't even his fault, he's constantly blamed for things yet when anyone else does something wrong they get a pass but not him. The guy puts up with a hell of a lot of stuff that I certainly wouldn't. Tony's like an abused kid, he'll take all the abuse in the world, if it means someone will love him. It's tragic. Is nobody going to point out that Tony wasn't out of line at all in how he acted in Civil War? He wasn't the one out of line. It was Steve Rogers who constantly needs a war to fight because that's what his existence has come down to. He's the one who basically told 170 countries to go f- themselves. He's the one who brushed off collateral damage as if it doesn't matter or that good guys don't have to answer for that sort of thing. Because they do. All the time. Unavoidable loss of life is one thing, but loss of life out of negligence or abuse of power is a whole other. Were the Accords right? NO. But Rogers certainly wasn't either.

@Snas_Undertall

5 жыл бұрын

Hell yes man you took the words right out of my mouth!

@ub8dullr676

4 жыл бұрын

Both Steve and Tony have their Pros and Cons. That's how it was designed to be. The audience chooses their side.

@stollossi2615

4 жыл бұрын

Straight up magic in your words.

@anunciatatrixie8479

4 жыл бұрын

FUCK YES

@3Rayfire

4 жыл бұрын

Except that the Sokovia Accords are in fact wrong. Just as the Mutant Registration Act that preceded it in the comics was extremely wrong. The only time that the Avengers acted where the collateral damage was their fault, was actually the one time it was Tony's fault, Ultron. The Battle of Johannesburg, was instigated by Wanda on Ultron's actions. Crossbones blew himself up, and he would've either killed everyone in the market, or killed everyone somewhere else. Wanda tried to save everyone, but she didn't pull the pin. And of course, Loki showing up on Thanos' orders was completely out of left field. And the Avengers were Fury's in case of emergency break glass plan. The governmental entity with authority, the World Security Council tried to nuke New York. Steve wasn't just telling 170 countries to go fuck themselves, Steve who had just gone through Hydra completely subverting SHIELD and about to wipe out all opposition to their rule, was completely justified in not trusting governmental authorities with using the Avengers correctly. This point is brought up in the film when Tony brings up that Banner would agree with him. When the person administering the accords was going to be General Thaddius "Thunderbolt" Ross, the poster child for the government abusing a super powered individual. "As far as I'm concerned, Banner's whole body is US Army property." In the meantime Steve was pursuing a personal connection instead of worrying about the law. It's also unusual that he should have to explain that the Avengers independence is important to the guy who said, "You can't have my property, but I did you a favor, I have successfully privatized world peace." Note Tony was right about that, as the senator who wanted his armor was HYDRA. Tony's fatal flaw in the argument over the Sokovia Accords was that he was letting his guilt dictate his judgment instead of thinking rationally. Tony was trying to push the responsibility of their actions on to someone else, namely the government because he couldn't handle the guilt, and he was thinking oversight would ease that burden. He was lying to himself. Steve's fatal flaw was of course Bucky. His only tangible connection to his old life. Something he would protect to the end. He had already proven himself willing to lay down his life to save Bucky in Winter Soldier. As far as the collateral damage goes, that happens in war too. Steve is a soldier. If you're going to fight, there's usually going to be damage. If you're worried about collateral damage, then your only option is not to fight. But then the enemies don't actually care about collateral damage. Or you put the Avengers in jail after the fact. The question is where is the negligence, where is the abuse of power? Steve is the one who said they would focus on evacuating the civilians out of Nova Grad before the final battle with Ultron, "Ultron thinks that we're dangerous. This battle isn't just about winning, it's about if he's right."

...I love him 3000. This video has so much more weight now.

God damnit. This just makes me dread watching Avengers 4 because that might be the last ever time we will see Robert Downey Jr. don the Iron Man suit.

@chrissleeping65

5 жыл бұрын

It won't be, it is Chris Evan's last mcu film tho. #goodbyecap

@Anand_Ilangovan

5 жыл бұрын

There is a strong reason that it might be RDJr.'s last film. The reason is so that Peter Parker can become the next leader and create his own team: The Second Avengers (Ultimate Spider-Man animated series) when Tony Stark retires.

@in4mal_baker270

5 жыл бұрын

nah, if they do that i think it'd be to rushed, but i definitely think tony has to go soon... unfortunately

@Anand_Ilangovan

5 жыл бұрын

Mattron Not immediately, but eventually. Peter will become Tony's successor and Peter also goes on to build his own company called "Parker Industries", doesn't he?

@kenschortgenjr7540

5 жыл бұрын

Actually, I suspect Captain Marvel will take the role of the leader of the Avengers in the next phase. Spiderman still needs to mature a bit before becoming a leader, but his happy-go-lucky and fearless character will always be a boon to whomever makes the decisions. To me it was the same aspect between Ironman and Steve Rogers. Stark was the general and HQ strategist, Cap was the tactician and battlefield commander who was able to adapt to the fluidity and fog of war when plans were thrown out. This is why Stark ceded control over to Cap in the first Avengers movie during the final fight.

Overall Tony has one of the best arcs in the MCU.

@charlenek11

5 жыл бұрын

It took Civil War to really pay it off but yes, I would agree that Tony's development is one of the best parts of the MCU.

@Adino1

5 жыл бұрын

2nd best arc, only behind Rogers.

@ShanLoHoops

5 жыл бұрын

Him and Thor ate interchangeable

@DA_BOID

5 жыл бұрын

Tony, Thor, and Rogers in that order. Daredevil and Luke Cage have also changed a lot since their MTU (Marvel Televised Universe) debuts. Especially Luke. That cliffhanger deserves another season.

@fariszeidan8495

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, he does have one of the best arc reactors.

The bit in Ultron where Tony is laughing is him coping with what he's done. That was a hysterical laugh not haha this is hilarious. He's having a moment of a mental breakdown

Between Tony and Steven, Tony was the one "with the will to act".

@kevinthunder3375

4 жыл бұрын

Without thinking of the consequences a lot of times. That's why Cap is such a great leader. He isn't ruled by his emotions and is capable of strategy.

@henshaw33

4 жыл бұрын

@@kevinthunder3375 Except that the entirety of Captain America: The First Avenger is Cap doing things based on emotions, not thinking ahead and having everything work out in his favor and everyone loving him and respecting him because of it.

@orarinnsnorrason4614

3 жыл бұрын

In First Avenger he did things for the sake of duty and trust, because he was after all a soldier first following orders but grows into the hero. Then in Winter Soldier that trust is betrayed and he has to try new methods.

"Tony goes to a pretty dark place in Civil War." (shows the QUEENS title card) Well. Tell us how you really feel.

@chekhov4215

5 жыл бұрын

Thrilled!

As for the doucheyness of him in Avengers 1, he's intentionally provoking people to size them up. You see him do it to Strange in their first meeting, with that "Balloon animals" comment, so it's not just a Whedon thing - the Russos have him do it, too.

@connorhandforth814

5 жыл бұрын

John Huffman Yeah it's more of his Ego feeling threatened a little bit by the "new guy" it shows as well because during the film he works with Strange and gets over it.

@cordelllongstreath741

5 жыл бұрын

It definitely something I see men of power/business people do all the time in informal setting. Still is unlikable as a character trait, but is spot on for his archetype

@GagasAlGhazali

5 жыл бұрын

thing is tony don't play well with others

@TheGerkuman

5 жыл бұрын

Also Loki's staff.

@altrocks

5 жыл бұрын

@@TheGerkuman Exactly. I don't know why so many people ignore this part of it. The mind stone was messing with all of them, increasing their less desirable qualities, throughout the first two Avengers movies.

I also grew up on the Cap hype train until I finally sat down and watched the iron man trilogy in one setting. I absolutely fell in love with Tony Stark’s character and how consistently well he was written/how Robert brought him to life, especially in moments of venerability with Pepper. I had seen most movies post Winter Soldier, but when I really watched early Robert’s performance I understood why people loved him so much. Robert Downey Jr. was the absolute perfect casting choice for Tony, and while I still love Cap to bits, Tony is definitely up there as a top contender for my favourite MCU character.

I always loved RDJ Iron Man, he will always have a place in my heart. I loved all his movies. Even Iron man 3.

“To feel that you are right, yet to fail nonetheless?” -Thanos These lines fit the Entirety of what Tony went through in a nutshell. For 6 years he saw a threat coming. 6 years he tried to prepare. Yet in the end he failed nonetheless. “Even if we don’t save The Earth we will Avenge it!” -Tony Stark, Avengers ....and now we will see him live up to his claim from the First Avengers movie. Now it’s time for them to live up to their name; The Avengers!!

@FullFatVideos

5 жыл бұрын

Perfect

@guitarman0365

5 жыл бұрын

it is a shame they had them all split up though for infinity war because that is one thing that they could not deliver on was when cap said that we will lose together too if they had too. I can't believe after the fallout of civil war they would not take advantage and have them needing to fight along side each other once more against thanos and fail together instead of everyone vanishing in all different areas of the universe. Hopefully they make that happen in the next one as that will be the swan song of the original characters and maybe that is where they all will die to bring back the vanished ones.

@MaverickSpawn

5 жыл бұрын

Tony has nothing left to lose. We will definitely see another side and part of Tony that we never thought was possible. I'm so ready it's not even funny.

@MaverickSpawn

5 жыл бұрын

THAT'S THE POINT! lol They will bring everyone back for the final battle. What we will see next will blow our fffffing minds.

@shawnpjean

5 жыл бұрын

Im hype for avengers 4 now!!!

I think that in Iron Man 3 Black actually showed that Tony is not a sort of invincible superhero., but an ordinary man..genius but just a man.. He was the only Avenger who was affected by alien invasion, which is weird to me, because it was the first time for everybody to witness that and yet, they all took it like it was nothing... So you have to give Shane Black some credit.

@sirmoriarty8230

5 жыл бұрын

He was more traumatized by the thought of dying. If you take into account the others. They've felt the feeling they were going to die numerous times. Hawk and Widow are assassins they fight and deal with death regularly. Cap fought in WW2 he's also used to death and the thought of possibly dying. Hulk well he doesn't actually think like a human unlike Banner. So really Tony being the only one with PTSD is understandable. He's not used to fighting big wars. He's not used to being forced to realize that he might just die. And being in that worm hole forced him big time to realize that he might just be stuck there. That was the only time he really felt helpless in the span of Iron man 1-2 and the first Avengers. He couldn't build something to get him out of it if like Iron man 1 and 2.

@vesnalukic9898

5 жыл бұрын

@@sirmoriarty8230 Actually Tony was facing death in Iron Man 2 and because of that he almost became a self destructive, but he didn't have nightmares and panic attacks. The thing that pushed him off the limits is that aliens attack and what he saw in that portal - an alien space station. Clint and Natasha are assassins but never ever had that kind experience before, especially Clint who was also mind controlled and because of that has killed his own crew. Steve was a soldier, but than woke up after being 70 years on ice. 10 years ago we didn't have smart phones, 20 years internet, .. 70 years not even color tv... World has changed so much since 1943/4 when he's crushed in the sea. That thing alone would be enough to give him PTSD. My point is.. each one of them has a legit reason to have PTSD, but we saw that only in Tony's case.

@sirmoriarty8230

5 жыл бұрын

Vesna Lukic Ok you’re right But with Tony he was up against humans and tech he knew and understood. He knew he could build himself out of the situations in 1 and 2. But I see your point and you’re right.

@antona.1327

5 жыл бұрын

Why should I give Shane Black a credit for what was done already in the first Iron Man (and done better)?

@vesnalukic9898

5 жыл бұрын

@@antona.1327 Where did you see Tony's PTSD in the first Iron Man? Panic attack, hyperventilation, nightmares? I didn't but maybe I missed something.

16:52 No one:...... Obi Wan: Did someone say...HIGH GROUND?!

@XchampionXFTW

5 жыл бұрын

Because him directly mentioning highground is definitely nobody saying nothing... yeah, definitely, smart guy Great, your misuse of a damn meme is angering me much more than it should and I blame you, thanks a lot asshole

Bet you weren't expecting the thumbnail to be so literal at this point

@captainbotstick2443

5 жыл бұрын

Aussie Viking II the thumbnail

When I reflect on the movies that have Tony Stark, I get a slow realization that Tony is suffering from multiple kinds of trauma and is just not getting help until CACW, when he is at his lowest. I do think what happen in Spider-Man Homecoming, he finally got professional help and his mentoring Peter got him on a road to recovery. By Infinity War, things are great, him and Pepper are getting married, he's excited for the future, Peter is still alive and thriving. And then Thanos comes in and it all goes to hell. Thanks Thanos. I really hope Nebula tears you apart in the next movie.

@JosepiThe13th

5 жыл бұрын

Katherine Alvarez Tear him apart like he did to her and Gamora’s sisterhood, and to her physically in Infinity War.

@VdeoGamer456

5 жыл бұрын

JosepiThe13th imagine if Shuri and Tony got together to help Nebula get a better body, l not one designed as punishment like Thanos did to her for losing against Gamora.

@bobbyjoefit

5 жыл бұрын

I like this comment.it makes sense. Thanks for the reflection

@auqanova

5 жыл бұрын

honestly theyve been taking every chance to give tony more ptsd, like every movie he has to deal with world shattering experiences, deaths, and near misses, and when the end is finally in sight, some guy he barely knows messes it up, and he has to watch as one of the only people he shows genuine care for are clinging to him desperately as they die.

@katherinealvarez9216

5 жыл бұрын

Monz.- yes, collaboration is good.

It's refreshing to think of the mcu from a storytelling rather than a cinematographic one. Nice video

@FullFatVideos

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for supporting the channel :)

@AaronGaleProductions

5 жыл бұрын

@@FullFatVideos you guys deserve it. I wish I could be this analytical

@XenoTronusWeePoo850

5 жыл бұрын

I love that word. Refreshing. Reminds me of cold drinks.

@CabezasDePescado

5 жыл бұрын

lol what the cinematography of the mcu is generic as hell

@jackmcdonald5237

5 жыл бұрын

Et Cogito Ergo Sum lol actually? Have you seen Dr. Strange? Either Guardians film? Either Ant Man Film? Civil War? Infinity War? Black Panther etc. basically what I'm saying is that not all of them may have quite standout filming, but there are definitely a few films that have some seriously impressive looks to them, and I know I'm missing a few here

liked the video, but I would also like to recognize the writers, not just the russos. Christopher Markus and Stephen Mcfeely deserve a ton of the credit for writing four of the best mcu films ever.

@FullFatVideos

5 жыл бұрын

I gave them a shoutout? haha

“I have a plan ... attack!” Is a great line you eajet

Anyone who says the MCU is just a series of thoughtless popcorn flicks needs to watch this video. Or just the MCU properly.

@FullFatVideos

5 жыл бұрын

Completely agree. The MCU will be remembered

@jordansweet8054

5 жыл бұрын

Amen to that. You want junk,watch the Transformers.

@comicculture5410

5 жыл бұрын

@@FullFatVideos agreed

@kristopherawojobi7745

5 жыл бұрын

@Mr Mindverse Of course. It's not the masterpiece of cinema that some fanboys would like to say. And there are various things I'm not happy with. I'm just saying they're not all simple minded action flicks.

@tochiokeke5478

5 жыл бұрын

Mr Mindverse To he honest their only horrible movies are only horrible compared to the rest of the MCU. If they were standing alone by themselves then they would probably only be bad or even just mediocre.

I think you've severely misread Tony Stark's reaction to Ultron's awakening. That laugh isn't the response of a douchebag, it's the response of someone who is terrified of what he's done and has no idea how to deal with it. A douchebag would try to justify himself, which Tony does also do in Age of Ultron so I wonder why you didn't show that instead of showing the clip of him "eating that humble pie" like you claim he doesn't do in the first two Avengers movies.

@boffse

5 жыл бұрын

Wanda, has messed with his mind as well. As soon as he gets the chance to, he's obsessively pushing to complete Super-Bot 2.0 (Ultron2 aka The Vision), not even learning from his mistake of Ultron 1.0 in the days prior. The Russos do a great job with Characters and story, thankfully they have Marvel Execs who come in with other teams to, handle the fights and special effects. In every film documentary, you hear Fight choreographers talking about fight scenes furthering story and character and they tell their own little story. And where-as in a "martial arts movie" this is front and center, I don't think the action scenes in the Russo movies can't be understated how well they work with regards to story and character. The marvel + russo team-up is a well oiled beautiful machine. Even the round-table, (Infinity war bonus) even James Gunn and Tiaka were just like ball fondling. You make it gritty Jason Bourne-esque captain america thing work, and then cut it with Guardians and Thor3 whimsy and make it feel true to those characters and styles those other directors set up.

@Gabe7Gal

5 жыл бұрын

If there was supposed to be more to the laugh and the rest of his behavior than him just being a douche, the scene does an overall poor job of conveying it.

@Aslayna

5 жыл бұрын

Paul Dixon you're spot on about Scarlet Witch messing with Tony Stark's mind. It's always bothered me how she suddenly turned into a superhero without any reasonable explanation. Didn't she sign up for Hydra to get revenge on Iron Man? Doesn't she have to take some responsibility for helping to creating Ultron? She literally didn't change her mind until she realised that Ultron was going to kill everyone -- when it was kill or be killed. How is she a hero? Her arc was just terrible. And the Russo brothers just swept all that under the carpet.

@DAGGETT062891

5 жыл бұрын

I complete agree with you VitalVampyr. That is the feeling I got from Tony when he laughed during that scene.

@MoeAji

5 жыл бұрын

That was what I got from that laugh too. Tony was laughing at himself. He miscalculated, and his creation became his enemy.

20:22 i love how Dr Strange’s cape mimicks Tony 😊

I’m only six minutes in and so far so good except for when you said that iron man is over powered if anything they nerfed tf out of iron man. I mean cmon in the first iron man he took a shot from a tank and fell like 300 ft and his suit was pretty much in perfect condition in the civil war cap was able to break Tony’s jets in his feet and break his helmet off wtf iron man is no where near OP

@lyons9833

5 жыл бұрын

And yes I am an iron man fan boy but cap didn’t beat iron man the only reason cap “won” was because of plot

@Kratos7686

3 жыл бұрын

Also captain was punching Ironman armour with bare hands and damaging it when a tank shot couldn't damage it. Reality is cap would've broke his hand if he punch Ironman

Honestly I am SO TIRED of people constantly calling Tony the villain of Civil War, or even Captain America. These people fail to see the whole point of the movie, which is that neither side is completely right or wrong, they are just extreme point of views with both pros and cons. Whenever someone tries to call Tony a big bad villain, they always use the same couple of reasons. The big two being the whole him trying to kill Bucky and him recruiting Peter, both of which I think to be understandable. With Bucky, OF COURSE he was angry at him. Sure, Bucky was mind controlled. But with all Tony has gone through and all the loses he has had to deal with, seeing his parents murdered in front of his own eyes would obviously be a breaking point. Especially when the murderer is right next to you and someone who you have learned to respect is backing him up without a second thought. Is Bucky at fault? No, but is Tony's reaction warranted and sympathetic? Yes. Then there's Peter. I can 100% understand why people would be angry at Tony for this, but it's important to understand Tony's motives. All he wanted Peter to do was be backup and tie them down. He had no intent on Peter going full force into battle, and he was probably hoping there wouldn't be a battle at all. Then when Peter did actually get hurt during battle, Tony immediately told him to leave. Yes, Tony was making a risky move and probably didn't think into it enough, but his intentions were clean. Plus, there's the fact that Peter was already swinging around fighting crime in a hoodie and some goggles. If anything, Tony was most likely thinking that Peter could grab Steve's shield, stay on the sidelines, and get a new and much needed suit. I can see why people would think negatively towards Tony, but I feel like they need to take a deeper look into his motives and try to understand his character arc.

@blurryperson2685

5 жыл бұрын

People also forget Cap knew Tony's parents were murdered back from winter solider and never told him. Steve lied to protect Bucky all these years.

@ThEN003tr0ll

5 жыл бұрын

Kashoot Myself he is the antagonist. Not the villain; I believe people state that he is ‘villain-like’ however. But not evil - he is still a hero.

@Deagnetic

5 жыл бұрын

He's an antagonist, not "evil" villain, but he still wanted to commit murder, you can't justify Tony murdering Bucky now, his parents are still dead, and flat out murdering him wont change anything except change Tony for the worse. Sure Bucky is a murderer, but being a hero is saving people even if it means saving a killer in one day of redeeming him/her and preventing massive damage/genocide.

@espo221b

5 жыл бұрын

@@Deagnetic and tchalla also wanted to commit murder. And so did Wanda in age of Ultron, and hulk has killed who knows how many slaves on Goldblum's planet. Tony was wrong to want to kill bucky, but it's nothing new to see characters want avenge their loved ones.

@CDHfilms

5 жыл бұрын

We all know the REAL villain is ZEMO!

Marvel should keep Russo Brothers for future movies especially big team up one (like Avenger and Civil War) coz they know what they're doing and manage to tell a great story

@FullFatVideos

5 жыл бұрын

I'm torn- I kind of want to see them do new things after Avengers 4

@XxwalaweixX

5 жыл бұрын

@@FullFatVideos btw with the addition of Captain Marvel in the MCU, how do you think the possibility of Civil War ll to happen? Maybe in the long run? Since Inhuman and Mile Morales is one of the biggest character in that storyline

@guyr3618

5 жыл бұрын

I think it would be a cool to see a very different version of Civil War 2 in the MCU... Possibly between Captain Marvel and Black Panther? Since Iron Man would obviously be unavailable.

@comicculture5410

5 жыл бұрын

Yep there really good with ensemble cast and giving each one their own screentime. I'm excited for anything the Russos do from now on I heard they're a mystery cop drama which Chadwick Boseman which looks very promising.

@swanpride

5 жыл бұрын

To be frank...the Russo Brothers do a great job, but I actually suspect that the MIPs aren't really them, but Markus and McFeely. They wrote the whole Captain America Franchise plus the pilot for Agent Carter...they also polished the script for GotG, and while it is a little bit difficult to tell who did what on Thor The Dark World writing-wise, my impression is that Marvel pulled them in after the first test screenings went so badly and they were responsible for flashing out the Loki-Arc, which is the one thing in this movie which works and rescues it from being utterly unwatchable. Not to diminish the Russo Brothers, even a great script can be ruined by a terrible director. But we shouldn't forget that the strength in their movies are for a large part the excellent writing, and they aren't the ones responsible for the screen play.

"That man is playing Galaga!"

@lianbenedek9791

4 жыл бұрын

"Thought we wouldn't notice, but we did"

"Best CGI fight in the MCU" Captain America: *Hold My Mjolnir*

@user-lf7dv7kn5y

4 жыл бұрын

It's Not His

The Russo brothers pointed out that in Infinity War, in the begining, Tony had a dream about having a child, and in the end, he loses one. Let's be real. The Russo brothers are the best directors in the MCU.

@hmmmhmmm9766

5 жыл бұрын

Spiderman isn't a child. He's just spiderman's mentor

@Alphajet101

5 жыл бұрын

@@hmmmhmmm9766 Yeah, but metaphorically, they HAVE a father and son relationship.

@gideonthangcin8179

5 жыл бұрын

Watiti

@Alphajet101

5 жыл бұрын

@@gideonthangcin8179 He did a great job. But The Russo brothers made 3 successful marvel films and they are all in my top 5 so, yeah. Waititi made the best Thor film, but I get your point.

@teh24thson

5 жыл бұрын

@@hmmmhmmm9766 uh. As a 15 yr old human. He is technically a child.

i always thought Tony was laughing about Ultron trying to kill them all as him going hysterical that he's "done it again" created another weapon that's going to be used for harm rather than good.... also the hulkbuster armour was designed by both Banner and Tony, both of which had a clear understanding of the Hulk... for the Tony to lose that fight would have made both Banner and Stark feel like they had no clue what they were doing... I do agree that Tony's kind of OP though

@Gabe7Gal

5 жыл бұрын

I get your point about the hulkbuster, but at the end of the day that scene needed some emotional substance to it. It was just a long-winded and one-sided fight without much drama to it

@ildikototh5648

5 жыл бұрын

I agree with the opinion that Tony's bitter laugh was about the furthest thing from being a douche. The Ultron entity they were fighting against had been made up of two main component: the original Ultron system and JARVIS, both of those were creations of Tony himself. Two AIs conceived, coded and developed by Tony. Ultron in the first second of its existence must have been 98% pure Tony, I guess, and Tony is pretty much aware of this fact. Then his friend asks him why this creature wants to wipe out humanity. I think his unhinged laugh was a wonderfully nuanced moment of characterization, in fact. The Russo brothers have my deepest respect, but I will never be able to understand where this "Whedon-kicking" attitude comes from. Joss has a completely different approach and movie-goers are free to have their preferences, but these directors are working together not against each other, if you notice. The best illustration of that is, ironically, a parallel between the scene when Tony pokes Banner in The Avengers and when Tony involves Peter in the airport fight years later [19:08]. And that's because it shows continuity. Both of these decisions of Tony were based on taking a calculated risk after a thorough research. Tony's quite sure Banner wouldn't turn from just any small provocation, he just needed to see how close he comes to turning, so Tony can assess the danger Banner poses to them all. He'd spent the night reading tons of SHIELD data about the other Avengers, for Pete's sake. Just as he trusted himself to keep Spiderman safe from any major harm in Civil War, based on his internet research about the kid's skills and level of endurance. You just chose to interpret the two instances of the same character trait differently to fit your narrative.

@Gabe7Gal

5 жыл бұрын

Its like I said in another reply, If the laugh wasn't meant to be a douche response, then it sure wasn't executed very well. It comes of as douchey because of his douchey response after the laugh itself. It was handled very poorly.

@ildikototh5648

5 жыл бұрын

Blue for You Like any performing art, it’s in the eye of the beholder. For me, RDJ’s expression leaves no questions in this scene, for others like you it tells something else. It’s a different story for every single person in the audience, and that’s the way it should be, actually. :)

@Gabe7Gal

5 жыл бұрын

"riiiiiiiiiiiiight" - Dr. Evil

When Endgame is out on DVD and Blu-Ray, you better make a character essay for every character, especially Iron Man.

can i just say this is probably one of my most favorite video on yt,, this made me think abt stuff i couldnt even begin to think of and only made me love the characterization of iron man and the others stronger

There are a few things I wanna say, but imma just stick to this one point. The laugh in AoU you bring up is more of a laugh of disbelief and frustration, not some laugh of detachment by some crazy maniac. It's not a flippant chuckle, he knows and realizes the dangers he's created, but he has to, *HAS to* stay strong and keep up appearances. He can't cry of scream in front of the AVENGERS. If the dude who made the robot is the first to bail out, then all Hell'd break loose. I personally think the cynical laugh of desperation is in-line with his character development. Nearly all his plans fail, and all he can do is laugh at the absurdity of it all. That or cry, and we all know Tony Stark never cries.

@xavierlugo5296

5 жыл бұрын

He dead ass probably cried after Peter died. I love iron man He is my personal fav in the mcu

@ZetashockCat

5 жыл бұрын

Tony's response reminds me of something a youtuber called DeceasedCrab once said in one of his video game playthroughs(after frustratingly trying to accomplish something): It's either laugh or cry, and I'm picking laugh.

@sirmoriarty8230

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah and a lot of people who don't know how to handle a situation laugh as a coping mechanism. And this dude has got way more than just PTSD on his back.

@SpeedySecrets215

5 жыл бұрын

He's the kinda person who breaks down all the god damn time alone but most of the time he keeps his mind and body occupied from emotions by constantly working And that is why he's such a relatable character lmao

@GTanya07

5 жыл бұрын

thank you

I like your videos, but I'll have to disagree with parts of this one. In Iron Man, Tony's character arc was fairly straightforward. He was a rich businessman who made his money from the sale of weapons, and others in his company were selling the weapons to terrorists without his knowledge. The media attacked him and claimed he was responsible, but he mostly just denied all of the allegations, because he was naïve and believed his company was innocent. He's also incredibly arrogant (as we see when he doesn't show up to receive an award, choosing instead to go gambling). Throughout the movie, we see him discover the guilt of his company and force them to become more accountable, even fighting his former friend Obadiah Stane. At the end of the movie, Tony Stark is no longer blinded by his ego, but his arrogance remains. In Iron Man 2, we still see his arrogance and ego, especially at the Stark Expo. This is partly due to his character arc not having completed in Iron Man, but I think it mostly comes down to him "being in a bad place" and trying to deflect from his impending death due to his arc reactor poisoning his blood. The main character development in this movie occurs after his fight with Rhodes, where we can see he realises what an idiot he's been. Once he invents the new element to replace his existing arc reactor and save himself, we see him back to the person he was at the end of the first Iron Man, possibly even more developed. In The Avengers, we finally see him meet his match. In his own solo outings before this, he's beaten both the Iron Monger and Whiplash, leaving him pretty cocky (which we could also see early in Iron Man 2). Now he comes face to face with people with superpowers, including Captain America, Thor and The Hulk. I feel like his thoughts towards superpowers are expressed well in a conversation he has with Steve, where Tony is quoted as saying "You're a laboratory expirement, Rogers. Everything special about you came out of a bottle." It's why we never see the same enmity between him and Bruce or Thor. Bruce was part of the team that gave him powers and was a scientist. Thor had to prove himself worthy to regain his powers. Captain America, however, basically just got them for free after someone else did all of the work. Tony Stark prides himself on his success without having powers, but in this movie he attacks Steve because he hasn't worked to achieve a similar level of power. At the end of the movie, Tony's arc from self-absorbed weapons dealer to selfless hero appears complete to many when he almost sacrifices himself by taking the nuke through the wormhole, but I would argue that although he has become a hero and defends others, the egotistical façade has emerged. As you discussed in your Thor video, flaw and façade often eventually trade places in character's arcs, and I think this is where that finally occurs for Tony. In Iron Man 3, we see Tony experiencing anxiety attacks and suffering from PTSD after the events of The Avengers. Many attribute this to him seeing the other side of the wormhole and almost dying, but I think it comes down to encountering superpowers. He's always been powerful enough to face everything that's come at him before, but in The Avengers, this was no longer the case, because other people got free 'Superpower' cards that he wasn't dealt. Because of this we see him obsessively developing suit after suit in attempt to remain powerful as others rise. I feel like using Killian and the Extremis Program as the villains of the film works well, as we see him fight against superpowered beings to overcome his fear. In Avengers: Age of Ultron, Tony's had enough of being a hero. He promised Pepper he would stop, but he has to keep building them to keep everyone safe. When he has access to the mind stone, he creates Ultron so that he can go home and be with Pepper, but after it backfires, he feels responsible for what happens. We also see that, although he doesn't experience anxiety attacks anymore, his PTSD as we saw in Iron Man 3 is ever present. The laugh at creating Ultron was showing his instability as he knows he's finally created something to defeat superpowered beings and it's a monster. He helps face it down, but then goes home, feeling as though he can no longer trust himself. In Captain America: Civil War, we see him forced to come to terms with what he caused in Age of Ultron. At this point, his trauma from The Avengers is coming forward, with the added pressure of the deaths he caused in Age of Ultran pushing on him even further. At this point, he seems almost paranoid. He attempts to keep the team together, but misunderstands the situation, believing Cap's judgement to be askew and not believing Bucky was brainwashed. He eventually realises otherwise and sets out to help. This is where his character is most clear. He doesn't have anything against heroics, that isn't why he signed the Accords. He signed the Accords because of his concern for collateral damage. When people were killed and Bucky escaped, he sees that is being on Cap. Now, they are headed to an abandoned facility with nobody to get hurt, and he believes Cap's story. This is then ruined by Stark finding out about his parents' murder and losing it. It's a logical way for his character to digress, works with the villains plan and doesn't feel forced, but this is the action that sets back his arc. It's his darkest moment and, although his ideologies are the same as they have been all the way through the movie, this feels like Iron Man 2 Stark. He comes across a problem, drives people away, even getting into a fight with a close friend. In Spider Man: Homecoming we see his ideology from Civil War. He doesn't have enough time in this movie to have much of an arc, but we see him berate Peter when he attacks the arms dealers on the boat because of the potential collateral damage, but congratulates him for defeating the Vulture in the final fight because he kept anyone from getting hurt. In Avengers: Infinity War, this is the culmination of his arc. He hears about Thanos, the guy who sent the chitauri in the first movie. This is who caused the experience that gave him PTSD. The reason he's been so obsessed has been partly about dealing with superpowers in general, but the focus has always been Thanos. His whole journey has lead up to this fight. He still hasn't forgiven Steve, and instead opts to set out for Titan alone, although Doctor Strange is there because he has the Time Stone and was kidnapped by Ebony Maw, Spider Man sneaks in against Tony's wishes, and they meet the Guardians of the Galaxy on Titan. He faces him down in the fight he's been preparing for for six years, and he loses terribly, resulting in the deaths of half the universe, including that of Peter Parker.

@Beastinvader

5 жыл бұрын

What you said here is perfect. It's exactly how I see his arc. Although I disagree on the last bit. He would have called Steve if he weren't interrupted

@astrangehero

5 жыл бұрын

Took the words out of my mouth! Love this

@hilmaandersson7855

5 жыл бұрын

Really nice analysis!

@soulsman4116

5 жыл бұрын

This comment is underrated, by a large margin

@shivampathak152

5 жыл бұрын

Damn u wrote my English essay

I think you're more biased to cap than Ironman🤣.!!

@MissFueledByCoffee

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah at the point when he is talking about the civil war and at the end about how “graciously” Steve leaves the shield it’s kind of disgusting. Tony just found out what Steve has kept and ultimately the shield is a symbolism to who Steve or Cap is. He is supposed to be full of honesty the shield was made by Howard who utterly believed in Steve(or should I say cap) so of course Tony leaves that jab because it’s the truth. In that moment Steve didn’t deserve the shield and Steve knew it.

@thedarkfrost2351

3 жыл бұрын

@@MissFueledByCoffee I think Steve just leaves the shield because he doesn’t care about being captain America anymore, it’s him telling Tony that he just doesn’t care anymore, that he can win, that he can be right and that’s he’s fine being the villain, fine going on the run.

I have to say your videos Parts 1 and 2 are the BEST videos I've watched on youtube this year. Your views are a direct representation of how I've felt about Captain America and a lot of the Iron man movies. It was greatly satisfying to watch. Thank you! you gained a new follower in me.

My life needs to be Russo'd

@FullFatVideos

5 жыл бұрын

hahahaah

@minuteman3317

5 жыл бұрын

Yo, there might be some shit thrown your way that will rock your world. You sure you want to do this?

@nik9911

5 жыл бұрын

Same duy

@cuanchulainn

5 жыл бұрын

giant mood

@KMakoENVtuber

5 жыл бұрын

As a wrestling fan, this makes me feel conflicted

In avengers, Tony "angered" banner to proof to the team that he's not an uncontrollable freąk. He learned about banner's work, and recognized him as a smart and missunderstood person. And he also saw a bit of himself in banner, who wants to redeem himself and show to the world that he is more than a green monster. He himself is trying to change his past. So when tony realized how banner must feel, he joked around him, tried to open up to him. That's why he "loves how he turns into a green rage monster" and that's why he poked him with the tazer.

@sirmoriarty8230

5 жыл бұрын

Thank god there are people who don't just see Tony's actions in black and white. His character is EXTREMELY human and relatable.

@duckieduck3287

5 жыл бұрын

Indeed

And my friends wonder why i'm on team iron man. Cap would do anything for Bucky, even if it means tearing the team apart. I mean Bucky is awesome and all, but there are other solutions. In the scene when Tony finds out Bucky killed his parents, there is no emotion at all on Cap's face, not even a bit of sympathy or anything, while Bucky looks like he's being teared apart.

@elishawilson1429

4 жыл бұрын

No empathy or sympathy did we watch the same movie and of course he would fight for Bucky he was brainwashed he was trying to stop Tony from doing something he'd ultimately would regret

@starceasilvester1573

4 жыл бұрын

I wound like but 69 likes

@deucezulu_22

4 жыл бұрын

Cap would never tear apart the team like that. Cap literally figures out 30 minutes into the film that Bucky didn't do it and who was going to be killed on site. Cap was merely protecting a friend who was framed, while Zemo was on the verge of resurrecting a squad of killer super soldiers.

@MissFueledByCoffee

4 жыл бұрын

Elisha Wilson I think the point is that while they are watching the video of his parents(one of which is Steve’s past friend) being murdered Steve really has no emotions on his face. It’s like he is waiting for Tony’s reaction which is kind of crappy. Steve should be flinching or something and when he admits to of knowing there is a bit of remorse or imploring(which could be looked at as Steve asking Tony not to be angry which this isn’t about Steve or Bucky this is about Tonys grief and Steve should of seemed more understanding.) and that’s it. Of course Steve shows anger and defiance throughout while wanting to protect Bucky but is there any remorse for Tony’s grief? That’s what the OP is talking about. I do think Steve was right to protect Bucky and I(along with the writers) believe if Tony had known before he wouldn’t of reacted like he did in Siberia.

@MissFueledByCoffee

4 жыл бұрын

deucezulu22 He is half the reason the team is torn apart Tony is the other half. If you try and talk about how Steve was telling Tony about the mission it can completely be looked at as Steve giving a bs reason for the sh!t he pulled. Rhodey and Nat were standing there when Steve tried; why didn’t they listen? Don’t say Natasha the only reason she let them go was because she knew Steve wasn’t going to stop, right or wrong, she wanted to avoid more people getting hurt because of Steve’s stubbornness.

I think the reason Tony laughs in Avenger's Age Of Ultron is because hes freaking out but trying not to show it

RDJ has always killed his role as Tony Stark. He was great in Iron Man 3. Lol

@hakenbacker

5 жыл бұрын

I'm probably wrong but in the comics wasn't he an alcoholic?

@jamesbroad4698

5 жыл бұрын

Iron Man is like Jack Sparrow, assured quality character, even when the film isn't the greatest.

@nazhh676

5 жыл бұрын

@@hakenbacker Yes.

@90lancaster

5 жыл бұрын

Iron Man 3 is essentially akin to a Batman Movie that only stars Bruce Wayne for 95% of it - oh wait they made that it was Called Dark Knight Rises and it kinda sucked.

@hurdan3907

5 жыл бұрын

No one's talking about Robert Downey Jr as an actor, and his role as iron man. But the writing behind the character. No one's trying to argue that Robert didn't do a phenomenal job lol.

Tony bullied steve on the 1st avengers bcs, as he told in civil war, he hated how his dad always talked about him

@FullFatVideos

5 жыл бұрын

True, but his tact was way offff. I think by comparison the way he speaks to Steve about his father in Civil War is closer to what I'd expect Tony to be like i.e. not a complete dick

@Thrashman138

5 жыл бұрын

@@FullFatVideos MCU Tony had a history of being a dick right from the first movie. Did you completely forget about how rude he treated that reporter he later had sex with? Remember his scene in court from IM2? I liked this video, but I disagree with a lot of your arguments. Tony's transformation from arrogantly benevolent to outright selfless protector seemed realistic and earned over all the movies, including both Avengers. It was a gradual process not a light switch moment.

@shubz98

5 жыл бұрын

The fuck???!!!!

@JP-yf2fk

5 жыл бұрын

Full Fat Videos Tony was the completest of dicks in phase 1.

@nealhodge8560

5 жыл бұрын

I mean in iron man 2 he does say that his dad never loved or never told him that he liked him, he constantly talked about Cpt. America and not acknowledging his own son. So yeah, i kinda get why he was being a dick to Steve, jealousy

Please make an update of this video, including the events of endgame!!

I’ve just stumbled onto your videos and just finished your 2 videos on Captain America (congrats you’re a prophet), and I’m around 3 minutes into this video where you stated you’re transition from loving iron man at the beginning of the mcu to becoming more of a Cap apologist (while still loving both heroes). And it is insane how spot on with my opinions and thoughts your videos are. Incredible work.

While I agree about Whedon sometime sacrificing constant characterization for a quick quip, Tony being so antagonistic in The Avengers towards Steve makes perfect sense to me. It's in the first line - Howard never shut up about Steve and his virtues. Which makes sense for Howard Stark, but pair this with Tony feeling like a constant disappointment, there were years during which resentment towards Steve could built before he even left the ice.

@alexandrasylvan

5 жыл бұрын

totally agree! I actually have more trouble believing they're supposed to be such good friends by Civil War.

@swanpride

5 жыл бұрын

No problem about this either, fighting together against and alien army has the same effect as fighting a troll, it just forges a connection of trust.

See, to me, Tony is slowly having a nervous breakdown. You can see him get mean in the Avengers, get jittery in Iron Man 3, lose faith in Ultron, and then feel guilty in Civil War, Spider-Man, and Infinity War. He brings a lot of troubles on himself and then makes things worse when he tries to fix them. For me, the entire MCU ip through Tony's obvious death in Avengers 4, is one big Iron Man movie.

@yungcranberry9081

5 жыл бұрын

Tbh I dont think Tony will die. He just built a relationship with Peter and in Avengers 3 he said something about having a dream about him and pepper with a baby. I think Cap's death is way more likely.

Very impressive break down, absolutely love the description of Iron Mans growth

I LOVE this. ❤️ I never paid attention to the differences in Tony's characterisation within the films, but now that you've pointed them out and shown examples, I wonder how I ever could have missed them. I HATED _Age of Ultron,_ but could never properly articulate exactly *WHAT* I disliked so much about it. I hated the story, I wasn't impressed with neither the CASTING of Wanda and Pietro NOR their execution within the film. I HATED the forced romance of Natasha and Bruce, which felt like a circle trying to fit into a triangular shaped opening. So it stands to reason that I also disliked the way the characters behaved and acted. Steve didn't feel like the thoughtful soldier we've grown to love during the course of his (at the time) 2 stand alone films. He was back to the one dimensional "Whedonism' we got in the first Avenger. Likewise, Tony had none of the nuance he'd gained from his prior films, and like you said, he was just an a$$hole. *EVERYONE'S* personality regressed in that film. Thank you for showing what was done to Tony, good and bad.

Tony was a douchebag to Cap in Avengers 1 because he was jealous. His father always talked about how incredible Steve was and how great of a man and so on when Tony was a kid. That hurt Tony, because his father never showed him love and appreciation but kept praising Steve. For a kid this is hard, not getting attention and appreciation from a parent so I don't think it was easy for Tony and wouldn't consider his behavior unjustified in Avengers 1.

@shakrosemusiq9301

5 жыл бұрын

Exactly.

@quintonbailey9861

5 жыл бұрын

and Lokis infinity stone made them all exaggerated

Cap wasn't born in the 40s... not that is really matters... but

@FullFatVideos

5 жыл бұрын

Whoops. Y'all know what I meant hahaha

@knutolavbrekke1807

5 жыл бұрын

@@FullFatVideos yeah, I did

@jimmyboy131

5 жыл бұрын

He was born in 1918, not the 40s.

@knutolavbrekke1807

5 жыл бұрын

+katykat978 *wasn't

@katykat978

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for clarifying! I deleted my comment

Here's the thing about Iron man 3 i think people might not realize, it actually takes place over a couple weeks, and during that time, while tony is staying in Harley's shed and working on fixing the suit he has he is also doing important self care for his condition and coming to terms with it, much like toby maguire's peter parker in spiderman 2, and after that when he faces off with the guys without the armor it shows him "hey I'm much more then just my armor"

Just found your channel and I keep clicking when recommended, great vids

That scene where Tony and Steve are talking about the accords and eventually argue about it is absolutely brilliant and such an overlooked moment for both Steve and Tony’s character development. Incoming text wall btw but I don’t care I wanna talk about this. First of all, we get to see them talk as friends, which honestly we haven’t gotten to see as much of as we should have. Most of the time we see them argue. We understood that they cared about each other but didn’t get to really see that as much. In that scene they talk as buddies and it’s just really nice to see. Talking about what they’ve been up to, the status of their relationships, joking with each other, etc. And this also makes the result of the movie even sadder. Secondly, their conversation in this one scene COMPLETELY FUCKING FIXED ALL THE CONTRADICTIONS WITH TONYS CHARACTER FROM IRON MAN 3!! Before this it was very confusing with how he destroyed all his suits in 3 but then he’s back as if nothing happened in AoU. It felt like he just changed his mind for no reason and there was no consequence for it, as he states that he’s still with pepper during that movie as well. And then Civil War and this scene happens and it explains all of it in an organic and earned way that doesn’t retcon anything and that both furthers his and Peppers characters as well as fixes all those problems. ITS SUCH GOOD WRITING! And thirdly, it also juggles the direct plot of that movie along with everything else I’ve stated. The Russo’s just really love these characters and understand them and it really showed in Civil War. Some were worried Infinity War would be bad because of all the characters and how they’d be developed. But after seeing what the Russo’s did in Civil War overall and specifically this scene, which involved the debatable main character of the franchise which they hadn’t worked with before, Tony Stark, and that they handled him so well, I never had a shadow of a doubt that IW would be good after hearing that they were directing it. The Russo’s were the best fucking thing to happen to this franchise and I can’t wait for Avengers 4. Sorry for the text wall lol

@UltimateKyuubiFox

5 жыл бұрын

Totally agree. I’m watching whatever the Russos make from now on.

@comicculture5410

5 жыл бұрын

100% agreed that conversation scene is one the best directed scenes in the entire MCU I was gripped in that scene just as much if not more than the action scenes and Civil War has some fantastic and intense action scenes.

@Stonegoal

5 жыл бұрын

You are full of shit. And Civil war seems to have had no effect. Did the UN even give approval for any of the Avengers to do anything? No....

@JohnDoe-ug3su

5 жыл бұрын

Tony never said he stop building in Iron Man 3, there is even a line there where he is encouraged to build things to help with his anxiety attacks. Iron Man 3 connected to Ultron well, he just destroyed his old suit so he can start making new ones

@Cris00900340

5 жыл бұрын

Travis Romig Civil War had no effect? Did you even see Infinity War...?

That point about Whedonisms was spot on! Cap suddenly telling Tony off for swearing in AoU felt off.

@FullFatVideos

5 жыл бұрын

Glad you agree! "language" is a bit painful...

@orangypteco8858

5 жыл бұрын

For gosh sake watch your language >:v

@jamest3116

5 жыл бұрын

I actually like that line. I like the fact that it just slipped out and they tease him for it. But, as you say, there are many other Whedonisms that annoy me. The "I have a plan: attack" line is just awful.

@BornInsane0

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah the language thing was pretty childish. Not to mention they keep mentioning it beating a dead horse.

@NewYearsMixDDS2012

5 жыл бұрын

Didn’t mind the language one. The one I really didn’t like was the Thor “He’s adopted” line. It’s going completely against his character to get a quick laugh. A central theme in all the Thor movies is Thor wishing he could fix his relationship with Loki. That line is not worth the cheap laugh.

Dramatically Stark and Steve complement each other, that's what made Civil War so good. I love both characters, all their flaws and their strengths. I've enjoyed other Full Fat Videos, but this one is way off.

Thanos: I am inevitable. Tony: I am Iron man. 👌💥

tony stark is a man who has known failure ever since day 1 of the MCU, and though with time he forgot its taste. he never forgot what it felt like, and this was his painful reminder. him having his perfect creation beaten and destroyed and then used to almost kill him was just the same as the feeling of a broken body and the taste of blood in the mouth of a fighter in his eyes. and with that Tony Stark learned to fail yet again, strive yet again, and hurt yet again, but he was also reminded that every time he fails, he always bounces back.

I loved Iron Man 3, mainly because we see Tony actually struggle, and that's really refreshing. I hoped they'd explore it more and we kind of see it in Infinity War but it could've been explored even more

Man, you were in for a BIG surprise in Endgame and you didn't even know it. Possibly Tony Stark's best iteration.

Dude yalls videos are like fucking essays. I love it. Its a refreshibg difference from the quick reviews im used too. When i have free money, the payday after next, im donating to your patreon. You have my word.

@FullFatVideos

5 жыл бұрын

thank you so much my man, even if you can't donate your support watching us is appreciated enough! x

In regards to Tony bringing a 15 year old kid into a fight he had nothing to do with, here's my interpretation. Tony had known about Peter Parker for a while at this point, maybe since even before Ultron, he had seen the sort of things he could do and was impressed. He wanted to test him, provide him with a real challenge, but he didn't want to put the kids life in real danger. He would never have called upon him to fight agains Ultron or the Mandarin, but when Cap and company go rogue, it gave him the perfect opportunity to see what the kid can really do. He knows that none of them want intentionally try to do Peter any real harm so he chose this moment to meet him.

@chriswyatt9869

5 жыл бұрын

Peter didn’t even have the powers in age of Ultron. In civil war he said he had the powers for 6 months

@Flippokid

5 жыл бұрын

Totally agree. To elaborate on the others meeting him: it's a great way for the others to assess his character, powers and fighting style. Because they've fought against him they're more familiar with his moves. That may not have been intentional on Tony's part, or by anyone for that matter, but it can really pay off for the team.

@mitrooper

5 жыл бұрын

Peter got his powers in late 2015, after Age of Ultron.

@4eversupersonicgirl

5 жыл бұрын

true! he was studying spiderman before he met him. thanks for the reminder :)

@rickymartin2831

5 жыл бұрын

I agree with this. I belive it was in Homecoming when Tony says "If Cap wanted to lay you out, he would"

The greatness of the MCU (which ironically the DCEU fails at) is that even the worst MCU movies are still important to continuing the CU's storyline. While not always the movie we want, they are never so bad that it makes what happens afterwards unbelievable, or even unwanted. There's always something you can take away from every MCU movie, and instead of running away from it (like the DCEU did), they instead embrace it. Take for example, Thor:TDW and Thor: Ragnarok. Loki took over Asgard. Now Taika could have just retconned the while thing, but instead of doing that he *ran with the idea.* He turned it into a joke that had real consequences to it with Odin's death.

@reuben5533

5 жыл бұрын

@Bob Bobbertson MCU is marvel cinematic universe, the universe Tony Stark is in. CU stands for cinematic universe

@135792183

5 жыл бұрын

@Bob Bobbertson are you too ignorant to use google?

@santmc12

5 жыл бұрын

@Bob Bobbertson Dumbass.

@cholanraje1410

5 жыл бұрын

Prison Mike chill

@comicconcarne

5 жыл бұрын

@Kay Unfortunately you're one of the only people that thinks that. I liked Shakespeare Thor, I liked his friends, I liked Asgard's crystal spire design. It makes it clear that time on Earth is humanizing him, that he's not able to just summon lightning and appear invincible anymore. I wish they made it more clear that he found the same camaraderie in the Avengers as in his Asgardian friend. So many people are happy he went from "somber to badass" when it was more important that he went from deity to hero.

Very good video. I even shed some tears when you talked about the sequence where Tony is beaten by Cap in Civil War and leaves the shield.

Thank you for counting the MCU as beginning with Iron Man.

That fight is my favorite scene of all the mcu movies. The way his helmet covered his face back up after being ripped thinking that it was over then but it wasn’t and the way he used every last nanobot to go up his body to his arms and the way my heart dropped when he got stabbed.

@sirmoriarty8230

5 жыл бұрын

Ikr that movie was SO well done!

Iron Man 1:”I had my eyes open. I saw young Americans get killed by the very weapons I built to protect them. Which is why as of now I am closing the Stark Industry weapon manufacturing system. Iron Man 2:(I honestly don’t remember) Avengers 1:He sacrifices himself and nearly died to save the world. Iron Man 3: He has Ptsd and is constantly upgrading to save people. Age of ultron: He builds Ultron to stop any alien threat due to his ptsd. What the Russos did only made sense to do for his character and they didn’t really fix him to be honest.

@hanthitsaing8091

5 жыл бұрын

The words are "improve and maintain"

@NGEvangeliman

5 жыл бұрын

@What Not To Do At a Stoplight even thanos didnt kill him. He is The Invincible Iron Man.

@MrTeamFoolish

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I agree. This is most logical path for his character. Also, up to a certain point, Iron Man was most powerful character on Earth. This until he meets Cap, Banner, Thor, etc. Its almost as if he feels threatened because there are new individuals who can kill him. His adaptability what narrowly keeps him on edge.

@awe7266

5 жыл бұрын

Iron Man 2: He pushes himself to extremes realizing he will die before understanding the real relationship he had with his father and ultimately stopping what he could have been (Vanko).

I just randomly get to this video again and just realized i came back exactly a year after this video is uploaded