I may have to make an analysis video about the brilliance of this video's title

@FullFatVideos

5 жыл бұрын

I would LOVE that. I've been following your videos for a while, great stuff

@king_of_scotland

5 жыл бұрын

Wait what? What is so great about it that you need to make an analysis video about it

@supersaiyanfox9190

5 жыл бұрын

I love your analysis video on The Last Jedi and Infinity War!

@Crick1952

5 жыл бұрын

Marvel: "Infinity War is the most ambitious crossover in history" FullFat: "I want to be Tracer" Schaffrillas: "I'm already Tracer"

@kkfine5631

5 жыл бұрын

Analysiception

Thor went from the worst written avenger to arguably the deepest, best character in the MCU in just two movies

@helium-379

5 жыл бұрын

You just gotta take all his toys away and watch him cry like a baby. Problem solved.

@diannebdee

5 жыл бұрын

I thought that was done in the first Thor film directed by none other than Sir Kenneth Branagh. Yah know he had his hammer, his planet, people, friends, and powers taken away from him in that film. He had to humble himself to be King and that was accomplished in one film....the first Thor film. It didn't need Taika Waititi to bring his "wilderpeople" to the MCU. YAY, nice work there Waititi ya bring that woman from Wilderpeople to play basically the same character and Sam Neill to play basically the same character and voila, you have "brilliance"? That's not brilliance. As much as I love Sam Neill, Waititi basically shat on the rest of the MCU and the character of Banner/Hulk to make himself look impressive. I loved Banner in the first two Avengers films. He was the Banner I loved from Bill Bixby's version, however, in one film and into Infinity War he was reduced to a comic perversion of the character. YAY for Waititi. He's overrated much. And now there's talk he may be replacing James Gunn for GOTGV3.....not on this or any other planet. James Gunn should be able to finish what he started. As for Waititi and that bastardized version of Thor....NO. THANK. YOU!

@PathBeyondTheDark

5 жыл бұрын

...What? What 'depth" is there to his character in Ragnorak? The funny banter? That's "depth" to you? He was an emotionless cookie cutter jokester like the rest of the cast. He never batted an eye when his people were mostly slaughtered, didn't give two shits that his friends were gutted. He just kept on joking around like Banner, or Hera, or the other random throw away characters. The film is funny as all hell, but it is far from anything resembling "depth." It is more along the lines of funny but inappropriate for the subject matter when pertaining to the character and source material.

@PathBeyondTheDark

5 жыл бұрын

@@diannebdee The first film is and always will be my preferred adaptation of the character. As funny as ragnarok was, it was inappropriate for the subject matter and the weight it should have been given emotionally.

@diannebdee

5 жыл бұрын

@@PathBeyondTheDark I loved the first two Thor films. The first because I adore Kenneth Branagh, the second because I'm a science geek and I loved all the traveling between the various dimensions. But yes Thor was already a fish out of water in the first film. He sort of got his comeuppance in that film when Odin banished him to Midgard. There was no need for Ragnarok and I feel Waititi did the character no good service. Banner was a punchline, not a valid character the way he was in the first two Avengers films.

after watching endgame i can say i have the body of a norse god

@bosskulls7266

5 жыл бұрын

Lmfaoo

@dustintanner5881

5 жыл бұрын

For real! I was thinking i might be turning into the dude.. Now im like fuck im thor

@adrianalexandrov7730

5 жыл бұрын

Well it's cold there, having some fat is beneficial ;)

@jasonyoung6420

5 жыл бұрын

I know who I'm cosplaying this year!

@ameenaaldabbagh5279

5 жыл бұрын

Very true

Thor's depression in Endgame really deepens his character. We learn that he may be a god, but he is just as human as the rest of us. It also sets up a redemption arc for him.

@carolperdue7534

5 жыл бұрын

Since Hemsworth signed for two more movies, it will be interesting to see the "redeemed" Thor and see if he because a whole character. Because, sorry Thor fans, to me prior to Ragnarok he was always a pompous @sshole. Very unlikable.

@ddandymann

4 жыл бұрын

@iM HaZY What's wrong with that? It's part of an arc (that is also in the comics) they're not replacing him.

@CabezasDePescado

4 жыл бұрын

no, it makes a literal joke out of him, jeez these mcu fanboys are scum

@yvesheinrich5013

4 жыл бұрын

@iM HaZY Nice argument.

@yvesheinrich5013

4 жыл бұрын

@iM HaZY No, I was being sarcastic.

*VERY MINOR ENDGAME SPOILER* Thor's portrayal in Endgame absolutely lines up with your analysis here. He finally lost, in a really big, reality altering way, and he sinks into a depression, becomes a reclusive drunk, and physically lets himself go as a result.

@gmoddude12

5 жыл бұрын

yeah i gotta love when a hero in any story is known for something big like with thor its his godhood and the fact that he can rarely be beaten his physical state and arrogance as a consequence of everything gets beaten down to the core like he did in endgame its amazing

@alsoknownas875

5 жыл бұрын

It REALLY pissed me off the way that Thor was treated in Endgame. Completely disgraced the character.

@_boysad69

5 жыл бұрын

@@alsoknownas875 He can't be OP all the time with no failures. Then he would be like Superman. Overpowered, and boring. Thor in the cinematic universe has had years of character development, with great supporting characters and a solid storyline so far. He has completely hit rock bottom, and the only way it could get any worse for him is if he dies. In Endgame, he is redeemed (a bit), and he can only go up from there. This is how you make a good character.

@solitary6836

5 жыл бұрын

The directors purposely made Thor look like a joke because they wanted fan following for captain marvel after captain america black widow and iron man’s departure Thor and hulk both were destroyed by russo brothers because Thor and Hulk had more fan following than captain marvel by making Thor look fat and hulk like a lazy scientist fans would move to another character but not me it can be not us it depends on you all to make it not us but not us. A small nerf i guess

@_boysad69

5 жыл бұрын

@@solitary6836 That's untrue. I just looked up what you said and no sources came up for that. Please provide a source before spreading your opinion as fact, it's misleading. Thor gaining weight is a part of his character arc. He has depression and anxiety, as seen in Endgame. He's lost everything. Him putting on some pounds is one of the more logical things that could have happened, considered most of his people and his brother were slaughtered in front of him, and he failed to prevent Thanos from winning in Infinity War. It's not some scheme to make people like Captain Marvel. I don't even like her. It's called good writing and storytelling, and character arcs are a part of that.

Was expecting a near 20 minute rant of how the character of Thor was ruined, was instead treated to a well thought out literary examination in the changes that were made for the better. Much like Waititi and the Russos, expectation subverted, well done.

@FullFatVideos

5 жыл бұрын

thank you man

@dain6492

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah instead of making Thor more serious and have him do cool Thor shit, they have his character get undercut at every opportunity. How can a guy who controls lightning get taken out by trash people that use tasers? Thor was still a badass without his hammer. In the comics Thor fought other gods for hundreds of years trying to become worthy and now he’s demoted to a guy that trash people fuck up. The movie also introduced a major Thor weakness. The taser neck thing still knocked out Thor when he turned into odinforce Thor and the whole final battle of the movie is fucked when we see machine guns harming the army. When I think seal team 6 could handle a job better than the super hero’s I’m watching you know the film fucked up. Oh and I don’t think a movie named ragnorock should be a comedy. It’s a story about Thor losing his father and home and we have dickhead rock guys cracking jokes not even 1 second later.

@lyricbot8513

5 жыл бұрын

@@dain6492 cool

@a.smarvelous9149

5 жыл бұрын

I walked in this thinking he was using the term "destroyed" as a bad thing.Glad i stuck around.

@Notnow22

5 жыл бұрын

The only character truly destroyed by Waititi and the Russos was Loki. He was totally out of character in these last two films. Nothing more than a comic relief...

I'm not a hater, but Captain Marvel needs to get Russo'd too.

@TimLSim

5 жыл бұрын

cmike123 well according to Jeremy Jahns, she does in Endgame (without giving any spoilers).

@cmike123

5 жыл бұрын

@@TimLSim God I hope so. I'm staying away from these damn reviewers lol. I'm super excited for Friday

@Christ2010Grad

5 жыл бұрын

Tim Sim May I have link to review please?

@TimLSim

5 жыл бұрын

Jabari Jefferson kzread.info/dash/bejne/lpanqa-TmJbWgrQ.html

@magicthegavining

5 жыл бұрын

I liked her but a more in depth exploration of her PERSONALITY not backstory.

"his relationship with loki is better then ever" well that didn't last long lmao

@baritzaduran2483

5 жыл бұрын

Visces like 1 hours tops

@anagramconfirmed1717

5 жыл бұрын

Read more comments get you a dislike. She left you bc of your attitude.

@daixhii4481

5 жыл бұрын

@@anagramconfirmed1717 How is making a "Read more" comment a bad attitude?

@anagramconfirmed1717

5 жыл бұрын

Visces it shows how self-absorbed and rude you are. “What I have to say is so witty and clever, in order to read it people are going to have to take an additional action.” What you have to say isn’t important enough to attempt to compel action, pal. Your attitude sucks.

@anagramconfirmed1717

5 жыл бұрын

WarWin nah, buddy.

Chris approached the Russos before/during Infinity War and wanted to make sure Thor continued the arc that started in Ragnarok as he was proud of the progress they made with the character.

@Ready_Set_Boom

5 жыл бұрын

loganjames210 i read Chris Helmsworth wanted End GameThor to follow this path based on what he started in Ragnarok.

@geoffdb8118

5 жыл бұрын

@@TorusLotus yea :/

@geoffdb8118

5 жыл бұрын

@@TorusLotus ..but it seems he will continue his arc in gotg vol 3

@aggelosmanolis5689

5 жыл бұрын

@@TorusLotus endgame made him better

@SuperSanity1

5 жыл бұрын

@@TorusLotus They didn't even come close to it. It was a direct continuation of what happened in Raganorak. He lost his world, half his people, then another half his people, then half the universe. He lost and realized he was so close to actually winning and saving everyone. It broke him. Rightfully so. Everyone may laugh at a line like "I went for the head." But it's not a funny line. It's a deeply sad one. And that's the moment you should know that something has snapped in him. I won't go too deep into spoiler territory, but you see several moments in Endgame where he starts to pick himself up and become the god of thunder we all love again.

Thor doesn't believe in no-win scenarios? That explains why his son James T. Kirk doesn't either....

@FullFatVideos

5 жыл бұрын

I'm glad someone got that

@unsutv2021

5 жыл бұрын

@@FullFatVideos He should have hacked the programme to save his ship, the Kobayashi Maru. That opening scene of Infinity War was depressing.

@Dolphinjamez

5 жыл бұрын

@@FullFatVideos I got it. I couldn't have come up with a joke that good this early in the morning though, so kudos to Chris.

I like to think that Thor, at the beginning on Endgame, has gone into a kind of personal exile because he feels responsible for not preventing the snap.

@jesse1086

5 жыл бұрын

Definitely possible. I feel like we have seen the least of him in the trailers. I do wonder if he will go looking for any remaining asgardians though .

@nem_vem

5 жыл бұрын

Thor Skywalker

@majestikmse8862

5 жыл бұрын

Scevosaur Thats exactly what happened, not even a matter of personal belief. He became an alcoholic that was horrified of even the mention of Thanos’ name.

@WilliamAndrews0

5 жыл бұрын

They flat out stated that this was happening. Not much to figure out there

@adityyuh

5 жыл бұрын

You got it right, bro

Waititi and the Russos made me love Thor.

@a-drewg1716

5 жыл бұрын

but I do hate Waititi for what he did to Hulk. Hulk didn't deserve the treatment he got in Ragnarok and Infinity War

@Libertino

5 жыл бұрын

@@a-drewg1716 Agree!

@etta5242

5 жыл бұрын

@@a-drewg1716 just wait , hulk is undergoing some character development.

@etta5242

5 жыл бұрын

@@a-drewg1716 they're keeping for the endgame.

@bryant7369

5 жыл бұрын

Hazelsshi _ facts he’ll be big next movie

I hate being clickbaited. But it somewhat softens the blow when the content isn't vapid and superficial. Really enjoyed this.

@Trevorischillin

5 жыл бұрын

NickGreyden vapid and superficial basically perfectly explains this vid 😂

@utsavraj3

5 жыл бұрын

Also, you weren't technically clickbaited.

@Gyro___Zeppeli

5 жыл бұрын

This is not clickbait

@Larsonlaneent

4 жыл бұрын

you weren't click baited, you just thought the title meant something else. Don't worry, i thought the title meant that thor's character was ruined too. but it isn't lickbait, its just misinterpretation

If not for Taika, it would be difficult for Russo's to make him a coolest character....The Rainbow bridge shot while Immigrant song playing in the background built the shot Bring Me Thanos..

Thor being Waititi’ed and Russo’d was perfect. Thor became the best avenger

@poyi1013

5 жыл бұрын

CorkBen waititied and russod does not make any sense at all.... it’s not clear as what happened to them.

@Dangerous2099

5 жыл бұрын

He became a dumb comedy character for blue pill normies.

@user-in8tk2ty7c

5 жыл бұрын

@@Dangerous2099 you mean they took this over the top boring as fuck egotistical character and give him a heart suffering and humanity something the movie goer can connect with... Don't know about you but I've never been a king or a god of thunder so I can't connect with Thor in his first two movies. Just saying FYI I liked the first two Thor movies but now because of Ragnarok and infinity he's a much more interesting connectible character.. fucking blue pill comedian remember most comedians hide pain behind jokes

@alittlesnag

5 жыл бұрын

Strongest* avenger ;)

@joshsmith5232

5 жыл бұрын

@@user-in8tk2ty7c Worthy of r/MurderedByWords ?

I love that they dropped Jane bullshit love story, and went balls to the wall.

"I improvised that number, could be anything, could be 20 per cent". I lost it!

@FullFatVideos

5 жыл бұрын

same it fucking killed me

@ThatImmo

5 жыл бұрын

It was the Taikest thing to say.

Hahaha you just piss off somebody with that title, he probably thought you where going to talk bad about Thor XD

@MrDagren

5 жыл бұрын

I just don't like dishonest clickbaity titles to be honest. :p

@bloodyneptune

5 жыл бұрын

I was ready to be pissed thinking they were going to talk bad about Waititi.

@Vatsugify

5 жыл бұрын

That's what's known as clickbait.

@majpeaches

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I was worried. I love this Thor

@Commander_Shepard.

5 жыл бұрын

That's what I actually coming to the video lol

i would also like to credit Stephany Folsom for Thor. she was the one that did the outline/story beats for Ragnarok, but due to industry standards she wasnt allowed credit. i met her and her husband at a film festival in 2018, and they spoke to me about how Disney fought the WGA because of some.outdated standard that only allowed 3 writer credits on a film. sadly they didnt "fully win" but it forced the WGA to change their rule and allow more than 3 writers credits on a feature film. PS she also wrote Toy Story 4, and was in the process of finishing it, when were talking. her husband kept on gushing about TS4 and how great of a writer she was.

Odyn "Who are you? God of thunder or god of hamerr?" Thor:Hmm... God of Axe

@selonianth

5 жыл бұрын

I'm aware that this is a joke, but it's also a thing people take seriously so... Just because he does not need a weapon to have power, does not mean that having a weapon is not beneficial.

@ahamedjunaid01

5 жыл бұрын

@putsome basilonit Yeah he had them for emergencies

@NorthernDruid

5 жыл бұрын

It's funny, because the I've grown up with the real Norse deity titled not "Thor the thundergod" but literally "Thor with The Hammer". So whenever I watch that scene I want to interject Odin with a "well, actually, yeah kinda!"

At first, I thought this video would be a critique to Thor and his MCU storyline, but it turned out to be a magnificent analysis about the last two movies in which he appeared. I loved it, here is my subscription :)

@FullFatVideos

5 жыл бұрын

and here is my thanks :) x

waititi: I took everything from thor haha. he has nothing left! no-one can take more away from him than I did!! russo brothers: hold my beer

@FullFatVideos

5 жыл бұрын

hahaahah

@vibraniumshield7383

5 жыл бұрын

Thanos: hold your brother's body

@Breticon

5 жыл бұрын

Russos: “you missed a spot”

@gauravpatil9652

5 жыл бұрын

Anthony Russo :- (smiling at joe) Bro we got some killings to do....

@captainsweeney5964

5 жыл бұрын

Didn't know it was a competition

Thor was pretty much an 'okay' avenger to like, he had a few good moments here and there. But after Ragnarok and IW, he became amazing.

Kudos for actually recognizing the contributions of the writers.

@GreenXecarius

5 жыл бұрын

But did you notice he mixed up the first and last names for the infinity war writers

Iron man was phase 1 Captain America phase 2 Thor phase 3

@CaptainCre3pzz

5 жыл бұрын

mainly everything underrated comment

@stalebread8384

5 жыл бұрын

+CaptainCre3pzz Ned phase 4 nigga

@IARsmiley

5 жыл бұрын

I think I remember Emergency Awesome predicting how that was how it was going to be. I’m so happy that this was the case.

@mattfolkerts3277

5 жыл бұрын

Spiderman phase 4?

@trevongriffin1044

5 жыл бұрын

Matt Folkerts Spiderman is already an good character

Before you immediately downvote the vid, the click-baity title refers to how Thor's characterization has been massively improved upon by way of stripping him of all but his fundamental self. His overarching journey has so far cost everything: loss of family, allies, & friends, his people & the home he failed to protect, & the defining embodiment of his power & station. Thor’s developed into a conflicted, flawed, & consequentially, a more compellingly realized character w new found narrative potential for what’s to come.

@KajiRider1997

5 жыл бұрын

He isn't even ginger!

@Lodatzor

5 жыл бұрын

The contents of the video are why I gave it a downvote. Thor Ragnarok was garbage.

@nimblebimble

5 жыл бұрын

Lodatz Cool

Please make a follow up based on end game

Whose here after they ruined Thor completely in Love & Thunder?

I think the whole "fate wills it so" speech is less about Thor hoping to manipulate fate to his will and more of Thor searching for some reason for why he survived when so many have died. He needs to believe there's a reason why he's alive and if he believes it's to serve this purpose, that's enough to keep him moving forward instead of breaking entirely apart. Otherwise, I agree with this video on the whole. Good watch!

From the title I thought you was some guy who didn’t know what he saying and just came to look at all the comments but man ended up watching the video and it was worth it

@ThePrincessrael

5 жыл бұрын

I did exactly the same

Watching this post Loki that line "Thor still thinks he's the master of his own destiny" really hits.

@ot7biasedmashups

2 жыл бұрын

Ikr😭

I'd love to see what Taika Waititi could do with other Marvel characters. I'd personally love to see this direction taken with Paul Rudd's Ant-Man.

@KingHoborg

2 жыл бұрын

Personally I think he should have worked on Ant Man over Ragnarok. Ant Man is a ridiculous concept, the character is flexible and the stakes are low. His style would have brought a touch of life to it. Ragnarok as a base story is high stakes, maybe even the highest aside from Inf War/End Game. Waititi's style ended up undercutting what should have been meaningful story beats with, in my opinion, terrible attempts at lightening the mood. For example, the ending of Ragnarok, with Korg's quip after Asgard goes boom, would be like if a side character popped a one-liner five seconds after half the universe got dusted. The MCU is notorious for weird attempts at humour, but I think Ragnarok is particularly egregious because overall it is a very good movie, with a pretty good storyline, great character development (for the most part) and great design (colour, costumes, sets etc). It's adventurous when it should be, it's dark when it should be, and the actors do a good job of portraying their characters in the situations they are in. It's NEARLY a great movie. It was so close to being one of my favourites of the MCU, and for that I hate it. Does that make sense?

@eagle_klaw_

2 жыл бұрын

Oh God no don't let that man ruin anything else. He already made Thor essentially act like Spider-Man, turned one of the most badass alien rock monster warriors to exist into a dumb gag character who hands out fucking flyers for battles, reduced Hulk to a giant man-baby, took away the ability for one Marvel's biggest traitors (Miek) to even speak, and combined 2 of Marvel's most serious/grounded/darkest stories from the past 2 decades into a damn comedy movie. This man needs to be kept as far away from Marvel as possible. What takes do you really want to see from him? Do you want him to turn Wolverine, Punisher, and Daredevil into kid-friendly comic relief characters the way he did Hulk and Korg? Who else do you want to see this man ruin? I could see his style working decently well for Ant Man though (only Scott. We still should have had a more serious version with Hank first)

And the character is the most popular it’s ever been honestly

@FullFatVideos

5 жыл бұрын

He went from a middle tier MCU character to fucking top tier

@Alex-tn3tq

5 жыл бұрын

@@FullFatVideos to be honest I thought he was always cool but with infinity war he actually stole the show, his whole arc which I felt was second to Thanos' in length, was completely brilliant and he was my favourite character of that movie

@worthlessmutts9598

5 жыл бұрын

no. Thor doesn't need spoiled, loser fans. He was always great with his intelligent fan base and fanboys.

@yeahkeen2905

5 жыл бұрын

Thanos seriously. You just had to do it.

@neilbreen371

5 жыл бұрын

@@worthlessmutts9598 zip it Thanos

"Stephen Markus and Christopher McFeely" ..... seems about right 😂😂👀

@phntmknight

5 жыл бұрын

Fuck I was about to comment that🤣🤣🤣

@VolcanicSpacePizza

5 жыл бұрын

I can't complain. I do the same thing alot.

@Bolvar4dragon

5 жыл бұрын

lol not the first time I've seen it done.

"you've been officially pardoned.... from LIFE" funniest line in the movie imo

Clearly not a Mary Sue. Lost his home, all of his best friends, his GF, his brother, his sister he never knew, his parents, his hammer, his eye and his pride to end up being the most powerful hero in the MCU.

@hunbi1875

5 жыл бұрын

I dont think you know what a mary sue is. Going through alot of shit doesn't give a character any flaws. If anything it just gives the character more reason to have flaws.

@BruvahSulaiman

5 жыл бұрын

@@hunbi1875 He did have flaws. Arrogance being the biggest one. Trusting his brother being another. Even when he buried his axe in Thanos' chest he had to boast to Thanos and allowed the snap to happen when he should have aimed for the head or the arm and cut it off or delivered a finishing blow instead of giving Thanos an "I told you so".

@BruvahSulaiman

5 жыл бұрын

@@hunbi1875 Also not being able to prevent those losses are his failures. Along with failing to protect Nidavellir from Thanos.

@Revan-eb1wb

5 жыл бұрын

@@hunbi1875 i think you dont know what a mary sue is. how ironic, isn't it, boy

@Revan-eb1wb

5 жыл бұрын

@@BruvahSulaiman you are 100% right

I guarantee 95% of those dislikes are people who pressed the video thinking it was a hate video disliked and left without watching ...

@FullFatVideos

5 жыл бұрын

It helps me sleep at night yeah

@darthtroller

5 жыл бұрын

I was gonna do this honestly

@scytheluna

5 жыл бұрын

@@darthtroller thank you for your honesty.

@darthtroller

5 жыл бұрын

@@scytheluna ya welcome

@Trevorischillin

5 жыл бұрын

Maybe the guy shouldn’t have misleading titles?

Now THIS is how you analyse a character and a movie. You guys took "reviewing" to the next level. Well done.

@FullFatVideos

5 жыл бұрын

wow thanks man!

Hahaha this video didn’t age well, I literally thought he was gonna talk about how they destroyed thor as a character 💀😩

i loved Taika Waititi's ragnarok. Was one of the most enjoyable marvel films

@MySHAQ18

5 жыл бұрын

SuperSuperdude88 it was a complete joke

@kimiorahenry179

5 жыл бұрын

@@MySHAQ18 you're a joke. Goteem

@saptarshibhowmick5220

5 жыл бұрын

MySHAQ18 that's why it was enjoyable.

@fitzhugh7463

5 жыл бұрын

@@MySHAQ18 yeah, thats why it's so enjoyable

@xd-qg5dz

4 жыл бұрын

@@MySHAQ18 The whole movie didn't take itself seriously, maybe you should've loosened up a bit white watching it.

This is a great video. What I loved personally about Infinity War’s handling of Thor upon leaving the theater was the way it showed how Thor really uses humor as his strongest facade. In that same monologue, he says “Well, he hasn’t fought me twice.” And then within twenty seconds we uncover the part of the monologue you focused on. It recontextualizes Ragnarok and shows us that Thor’s lighthearted demeanor is a mask he wears to hide genuine suffering. And it made the transition from comedy to tragedy between Ragnarok and Infinity War feel natural and even effortless.

@kompanjonac

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah and then when you watch ragnarok it makes sense and you understand why he's suddenly more jokier than before.Which before Infinity war kinda didnt make sense to me.

@casulgamer1499

5 жыл бұрын

I went directly from Ragnarok to Infinity war, and i must say that they made Thor so BADASS! Like people complain about the fact that he's jokey in Ragnarok, but you get glimpses of his actual suffering between the jokes. And then in Infinity war he's pushed even further and his facade collapses for a moment, but then at the end he gets a badass fucking ending. While still suffering. Edit: They made Thor, at least for me, go from one of the most forgettable characters of the MCU to one of the best ones.

@alshahriar6230

5 жыл бұрын

@@kompanjonac he said he used the joke to mask his tragedy.can`t you read

@kompanjonac

5 жыл бұрын

@@alshahriar6230 Yes I can.Thats why I'm agreeing with him and saying that now he's behaviour in Ragnarok makes more sense after that scene in IW.Read comment again you didnt understand .

The writers for infinity war are Christopher Markus and Stephen McFeely You said Steven Markus and Christopher Mcfeely

@GusGoosegrease

5 жыл бұрын

Can't tell if that was a legit mistake, or intentional.

@MortyKaiShalom

5 жыл бұрын

I thought I heard something odd there, but honestly didn't bother to check. Figured I wasn't paying enough attention lol

@raghavendraravi6866

5 жыл бұрын

Good job

@docdoc2011

5 жыл бұрын

These are their fusion forms, that's why they are so skillful.

@KysonChannell

5 жыл бұрын

And he said it with their actual names on the screen....

well this aged badly

Ohohoho. Just wait 'til you see Endgame. No facade. Like at all.

@MiloTheKid5454

5 жыл бұрын

"What more could I lose" hahaha, his god body

@dankerbell

5 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/eZ2JmM-vqrjcgag.html

*Sees Title *Kowalski, Analysis*

"I could lose a lot." -Rocket

@FullFatVideos

5 жыл бұрын

"Dad..."

Spoilers- - - - - - - - - Your line about Thor getting dreads after his gap year has taken on a whole new meaning 😂

@molalla2546

3 жыл бұрын

also, he called it annihilation instead of endgame

Thor when he finally hits Thanos reminds me of Oberyn Martell. Both were close to avenging their families. Had the enemy at his mercy but hubris and the need to make a mockery of the enemy gave the enemy the time, chance and means to retaliate and kill in return.

A very important part of Thor's fate speech is at the end, and not from Thor. Rocket says 'Well, I could lose a lot', reminding the audience that Thor is only seeing himself in these events and forgetting the identities of everyone else who is counting on him. The true cost of being a superhero... it is not about you, it is about the people you are standing in for, and they (half of them anyway) have everything left to lose. It may be cliche, but I don't think there have been many characters better set up for a hero's sacrifice like Thor.

@evangelionaddict8212

5 жыл бұрын

And indeed I think that this is something he may come to terms with in A4. Having been pseudo-responsible for the deaths of both the Asgardians and the general people of the universe now, at his lowest of lows.

@codyjohnson932

5 жыл бұрын

His death from thanos could cause him to die and come back as True rune King Thor, come back stronger too! After cap weilds his hammer and kills thanos. ;)

Dude, you confused the hell out of me and, after reading the comments, a lot of other people too. I was mad at first because of the title because Ragnarok is my favorite Marvel movie. But then, you pulled the "this video is dedicated to Stan Lee rip" and I was like "huh?" Anyways, good video dude.

@lovleen

5 жыл бұрын

thor was literally ruined as a character in thor ragnarok thor cracked jokes while ragnarok aka the death of Asgard was happening the god of thunder got knocked out by a shocker device in his own movie his character went from op to tragic

@sravili9838

5 жыл бұрын

Saame

“Well, he’s a spoiled brat”. First film resolved that arc. No need to humiliate him in the later films. Disney has ruined the character.

One thing that bugs me about Thor: Ragnarok is how his best friends for over a thousand years, the Lady Sif and the Warriors Three, are brutally killed and their deaths don't phase him a bit.

@thatmannarbash7638

3 жыл бұрын

soon as I seen that I said here comes the Hollywood treatment

@nirmalanandarapu7026

3 жыл бұрын

Lady sif did not die

By the title, I was completely ready to write an argument like, "In today's essay, I'm going to tell you how you're completely wrong about my boy" but I ended yp hardcore agreeing with you and this video is wonderful. Bless you.

His relationship with loki is stronger than ever... infinity war: *loki dies first few scenes*

@joshuawesten8300

3 жыл бұрын

Clearly you don't know Loki he always fakes his death then returns either in the next movie or a few movies later I don't believe for a second he's dead

@SCP-Dr_Bright

3 жыл бұрын

@@joshuawesten8300 i think i heard some where that he is dead but another loki from another universe is gonma be in the mcu

@f4ptr989

3 жыл бұрын

@@dwad8710 Does it matter? Marvel is over now, endgame will be the final and last marvel movie worth watching. Phase 5 will be absolute dog siht.

@darks1d3rz16

3 жыл бұрын

@@joshuawesten8300 have you never seen the movies? he IS 100% dead.

“Avengers Annihilation” The good old days...

@Thames.Chiratt

3 жыл бұрын

Beat me to it!

watching it back, I really love how confident you are in calling it Avenger Annihilation.

The research that went into this is better than most anything on KZread. They should hire you on their actual commentary versions of the movies

@FullFatVideos

5 жыл бұрын

wow thats such a nice thing to say thank you

Btw I just realised that Hela is probably what Thor would have become had he been made king in Thor 1

@VideaVice25

5 жыл бұрын

So, Loki asshol-ish behavior saved him from himself ultimately. Wait does it mean if Hela had a Loki sister she could've learned humility???

@DannyDomenic

5 жыл бұрын

You're exactly right. It makes sense why Odin stripped him of his power and sent him to Earth, doesn't it? Odin didn't pay attention and let Hela go too far down the path of arrogance and power until it was too late to save her. Odin had to teach Thor that lesson of humility and having power in peace before it was too late.

@Beastinvader

5 жыл бұрын

@@DannyDomenic Exactly. It's worth noting that Odin cast him out after Thor wanted to destroy Jotenheim, as Hella wanted to do with every realm. Of course the creators didn't know then that Ragnarok would give hin a sister, but it's a nice touch if we want the movies to make sense

@chensgold

5 жыл бұрын

It is and I believe Odin was expecting that as well, he commissioned a "god-killing" weapon named "stormbreaker" from the elves, I believe Odin expected Thor to become bad and he would have to kill him and try again with Loki...

@nimblebimble

5 жыл бұрын

I wonder how to explain why Odin couldn't remove Hela's powers in an attempt to teach her humility.

I think it's actually Christopher Markus and Stephen Mcfeely but ok....

@AxelReigns

5 жыл бұрын

Seth Parris no he means that he fucked their names at the start lol

@switchzone7

4 жыл бұрын

@Seth Parris 1:40

@simonhicks5973

4 жыл бұрын

Shhhh, we cant let them know he undermined the contributions of the writers

Facade was so bad he went "fat-sad"

i wish he didnt have that fake eye he should have kept Odins eye patch

@putraharry9034

5 жыл бұрын

Thats how the facade works bruh

@KluveRothtar

5 жыл бұрын

Agreed, but that seems like more of an end game moment. Removing it reaffirms that he isn't ready to take on that mantle of being complete with his journey. It's annoying to the viewer, but smart from a storytelling perspective. It's more of the giving you the idea that this is how it's going, and then entirely flipping it on its head. Ragnarok made us think it was the end of his character arc. He learned humor, became stronger, learned what it means to be a king, and ultimately became a more complete character... The Infinity War steps in and says psyche, we're not done yet, and shows that even after everything he still retains that core character flaw and still has more growth to make before he can be that completed king. I still think it should have played into making him go more along his journey, but I also appreciate that sometimes in order to grow and reach maximum potential, you sometimes need to be completely broken. And at this point.. What else can break with him? He truly has nothing more to lose. Which leaves one option. Gain and growth.

@tjay45

5 жыл бұрын

@@KluveRothtar agreed, i hope they do replace the eye in the future though would be cool to see

@KluveRothtar

5 жыл бұрын

@@tjay45 I think if these movies have shown anything, it's that these writers and directors know what they're doing and everything has a purpose for the plot, no matter how small. They're not just going to leave it off how it is. They have something in store

@poankiyu7664

5 жыл бұрын

I'm holding out for it getting busted in Endgame

Damn Thor makes the same mistake almost every villain in any story makes

@FullFatVideos

5 жыл бұрын

Yep! Thanos got him monologuing!

@jarskii11

5 жыл бұрын

Well the whole movie was thanos being the hero and our heroes villains. So yeah

@LongfellowDeeds-jy2le

5 жыл бұрын

jarskii11 I think calling the heros villains is a bit of a stretch. I mean, they are trying to stop half the universe from dying.

@JayMarBu

5 жыл бұрын

Longfellow Deeds22734 he means in the sense that form a narrative structure point of view, infinity war could be seen as a hero’s journey from the point of view of Thanos as the hero and by proxy making those who try to get in the way of this journey (the avengers and co) the villains of thanos’s story.

@JoshBurcham104

5 жыл бұрын

@@jarskii11 lol thanks for your input. I too have seen video essays on Marvel Movies.😒

"Stephen Markus and Christopher McFeely" Nice mixup

Can’t wait to see his arc complete in Thor: Love and Thunder

(Reads title) (sees like/dislike ratio) alright. I’ll listen

@mdlchannel8318

5 жыл бұрын

That was me too :)

@hunter-367_pro8

5 жыл бұрын

That’s me in every video

Feel like Waititi made Loki’s hair greasier for the lols

@FullFatVideos

5 жыл бұрын

hahahaahahaha

@mattuu100

5 жыл бұрын

He did spend most of the movie traveling and living on a trash planet fighting. So I think it makes sense he would have not so clean hair

@tirionwilliams7055

5 жыл бұрын

Matt H I meant the scene with Strange. His hair looks greasier there and it’s just a joke

Dude thanked "Stephen Markus and Christopher McFeely" for the screenplay instead of Christopher Markus and Stephen McFeely

Thor had so much lost potential in the movies before Ragnarok. He was ridiculously weak for a man with a powerful hammer, and didn't seem to know how to use his abilities. I'm surprised to see how easily he got taken down for someone who nearly killed Thanos I'm glad that he had a major overhaul after Ragnarok. He expresses his full potential and still has some more untapped potential left to be explored. I used to dislike Thor and didn't know how people enjoyed him, but now I thoroughly enjoy him. Same goes for Iron Man. He had a very bland character with more untapped potential. After the Russo Brother's involvement, he became amazing

Tl; Dr they made him a a character and not just an old-english speaking plot device

@WiloPolis03

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the favorite!

@IronWolf_345

5 жыл бұрын

Thor not speaking in old English is the biggest gripe I have with Thor... now he sounds like any other character with an Australian accent...

@WiloPolis03

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, much more human and relatable

@AngryJT

5 жыл бұрын

They made him fun.

@olliemad

5 жыл бұрын

Wilo Polis u

That is legit the cleverest clickbaity title ever!✔

Holy shit literally everything you said came true on Endgame. Amazing analysis, man.

This is so well researched and put together. It’s really rare to come across a channel that creates content this intelligent. Thank you

you should add the words "in a good way" in the title. i know it's click-bait-y and simultaneously truthful, but I'm betting a lot of people won't be able to get past the title and watch all of the video. great work with the vid by the way. wonderful analysis.

@FullFatVideos

5 жыл бұрын

Maybe but I think its pretty silly to comment without watching the video. Hell, you get the entire thesis in the first minute! Thanks for watching! :)

@idleeidolon

5 жыл бұрын

@@FullFatVideos you have faith in people. that's good. :D hahahahahahahahaha!

@saetainlatin

5 жыл бұрын

You truly don't understand the internetz then, people judge a book for its cover and a video for its title I do recommend you to add something else specially since its a 20 min video @@FullFatVideos

@MasterPiece-rg7ed

5 жыл бұрын

@@FullFatVideos its more Willy to not just change the title. Because of clickbait people is more aware of watching videos as they dont wanna help those who does clickbate videoens to get more views. But I can understand why you wont change it. After all, you wouldnt had this much views if you change it..

Before, Thor was just okay but had little to no motivation to develop and grow. But then Ragnorok came around and now he's becoming a king possibly stronger than Odin. Now, after Infinity War he's one of the more fleshed out characters because now he has gone through so much in what seems like just a couple of weeks within the story's timeline. Tony battles with PTSD and lost his protege. Cap is tired of living in war and doesn't know when he'll get his life back. Hulk and Banner can't work out a compromise. Natasha is starting to make some friends but at the cost of being vulnerable for the first time in her life. Okoye and all of what's left of Wakanda just lost their king. If Shuri's still alive, then she lost her only brother. Rocket just lost his only friends in the galaxy. Nebula lost her sister. Hawkeye is going to be pissed when he finds out what happened to Wanda, and we dont want to know if his family was affected. Rhodes is paralyzed and has no idea where Tony is, and just lost his position in the military so he's on the run as well. Scott is stuck in the Quantum Realm and has no way to get back to his daughter, if she's still there, and is unaware that his science friends just vanished. And Thor just lost his home planet yesterday and failed to save half the universe when he had Thanos wounded. All while Thanos is living in tranquility hiding and smiling at what an achievement he believes he has made. Let's just rewind to the 90's to when Fury was still alive and hope it all turns out just peachy.

@mu2thehotness

5 жыл бұрын

Gr8 summary

@yorozuyagin-chan6584

5 жыл бұрын

@SpiritWolf2K Hulk isn't controlled anymore because he has been the hulk for so long. (As it was implied in the movie that time goes by oddly in Sakaar) His intellect has already grown and he actually likes being big, green, and loved by Sakaarians. He doesn't want to go back to being Banner because he has grown comfortable being himself and doesn't want to return to being the man's weapon or "superpower".

@hiimchrisj

5 жыл бұрын

@SpiritWolf2K They never implied that he could control Hulk himself just that he finally made the breakthrough in controlling the transformation. And that's continued throughout Avengers and Age of Ultron. Banner can intentionally bring out the transformation because he found a balance, he's "always angry" but Hulk is still dangerous so he has to be careful about transforming unintentionally because Hulk's ultimately still a mindless destroyer. And Hulk in Ragnarok isn't a 180 it's just a development: Hulk is now his own person with his own personality and needs. And it's not even out of nowhere because all the way back in The Incredible Hulk they bring up the argument about whether Hulk is his own entity or if Banner was still in there. And in The Avengers he seemed to have come to the conclusion that he isn't and Hulk is just "the other guy" all the way through Age of Ultron where Tony remembers he shouldn't mention "puny Banner" to the Hulk.

@MasterPiece-rg7ed

5 жыл бұрын

He's not stronger than Odin. Yet...

@cloudystarsatnight

5 жыл бұрын

@SpiritWolf2K That's what he said already. He can't control the Hulk, he's his own person, but he CAN bring him out intentionally. However, after he transforms, it's up to Hulk whether or not he changes back into Banner.

I feel bad for Thor, he lost all of his family, his home (Asgard), half of Asgard (as a people), his best friend, and failed to complete the mission that no one else could. His turn in Endgame is understandable, and it also sets up a great redemption ark for Thor: Love and Thunder.

This video is BRILLIANT !! I’ve always appreciated the character development of marvel writers. But this shows me how brilliant their storytelling really is. Great job bro.

I'd like to point out that really the death of half the universe was neither Peter's fault nor Thor's thanks to that one line by Dr. Strange. If there really was "no other way" then any deviation by those two characters would have brought on a permanent end to half the universe without any hope of reversal. He knew from the moment he gave Thanos the time stone that they would have to lose the battle to win the war.

@nadiamozerhusain4259

5 жыл бұрын

That was a great bit of writing on the writers' part. Now everyone can't disagree with the Avengers' choices, because it was the only way.

@shanez1215

5 жыл бұрын

The sad thing is that Thor survived the snap but never learned that. So he blames himself.

@unlimitededge2689

5 жыл бұрын

THANK YOU! That’s what I’ve been saying for months

@joneezi89m

5 жыл бұрын

Dr. Strange did in fact see past the titan fight and a "how to"-guide to beat thanos. Otherwise, it wouldn't make sense for him to tell Tony Stark that "there were not other way" as the snap has already happened and they "lost". So it was totally according to a plan that skylord and thor messed up, I personally would argue that Dr. Strange knew that they would do what they did, but skylord and thor didn't know that this was how it should have happened themselves

@bkdmode

5 жыл бұрын

I just re-watched Infinity War and paid specific attention to Dr. Strange's endgame comment. It was after Strange gave Thanos the Time Stone to save Tony on Titan and then Thanos heads to Earth. Tony asks, "Why would you do that?" Strange responds, "We're in the endgame now." So the "Endgame" is that one scenario Strange saw where the Avengers ultimately win.

In... a.... good way?

@FullFatVideos

5 жыл бұрын

Watch... the... video.... hahahahaha

I think Thor getting stormbreaker in infinity war is a bit weird because in ragnarok part of the story is him being powerful and not needing his hammer but then in infinity war he gets an even more powerful weapon.

Watching this after Endgame and I'm impressed at how accurate the closing comments were!

That title pulled a sneaky one on us

that Thor entrance at Wakanda gives me goosebumps every damn time, its almost as good as the ride of the Rohirrim

@FullFatVideos

5 жыл бұрын

its so freaking awesome

@jjmm4965

5 жыл бұрын

Hell no.... it's not even good let alone compared to one of the best scenes ever lol

@alshahriar6230

5 жыл бұрын

@@jjmm4965 what`s the best scene ever? tell me

@alshahriar6230

5 жыл бұрын

and if it`s not the best than it`s certainly one of the best despite of your opinion

@psbrayshaw

5 жыл бұрын

That deep/low noise when he jumps in the air in Wakanda! Gives me goosebumps every time!

I swear if Thor doesnt fight Noobmaster69 next Thor Ill flip

The ultimate clickbait that isn’t really a clickbait but low key a click bait. Well done 😂

@FullFatVideos

5 жыл бұрын

Hello there! You might like this video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/mH-lk9SLYsrJdbg.html

You're officially pardoned.............. from life

@SynsaySama

5 жыл бұрын

Hahaha...god that scene was great!

Just what I was looking for. Very well done bro

this may be the best video essay ive ever seen! well done!

Read that title, got a little steamed. Glad I watched before voting it.

@Magst3r1

5 жыл бұрын

Same

@Jalexthegr8

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah. Wished they had reworded it.

What a clickbait title! Was coming solely to dislike but I'm pleasantly surprised.

@CelestialDraconis

5 жыл бұрын

So if it was criticism of thor's chatacter and if you disagreed, you would've automatically disliked? Just goes to show the amount of fanboyism and sensitivity there is in the fan base these days, lmao.

@minna4

5 жыл бұрын

@@CelestialDraconis lol. If the criticism is fair I wouldn't mind.

@tmoe_ow2523

5 жыл бұрын

grill

Well, Waititi ACTUALLY destroyed Thor in Love&Thunder

I thought this video was going to be about how Thor's character was totally butchered in Ragnarok, almost redeemed in Infinity War, and then re-butchered in Endgame. Oh, well.

@williampym3741

5 жыл бұрын

Please stop asserting your opinion as fact.

@jamesrelich8210

5 жыл бұрын

@@williampym3741 I didn't. I just gave my assessment of Thor's character progression through the last three movies. Obviously it's my opinion, because I'm the one saying it. If you don't like my opinion, there's a Thumbs Down button just below my comment for your convenience.

@williampym3741

5 жыл бұрын

@@jamesrelich8210 Sorry, its just the impression you gave.

Why did you have to bait and switch me like that, I came here to write a massive comment about how wrong you were after seeing the title. Nicely done

That's how you do clickbait right

Brilliant title subverted my expectations and I watched the whole video. Subbed, nice job man

Great vid man. So good.

Came to criticize the video because of the title but damn you got me. Well done. This is how you do clickbait ladies and gents

@FullFatVideos

5 жыл бұрын

thanks mate! x

after thousands of years after falling in love his entire family and all his friends die his entire kingdom is destroyed all within very small portion of his life

@FullFatVideos

5 жыл бұрын

its so good

That was awesome man! Gave me new perspective on Thor's current arc. Excellent video. +1 sub.

Damn, JOURNEY theme is so fitting and well done use in this video, well done man.

Slightly clickbaity title Great character examination 9/10

@gearoidgarvey8266

5 жыл бұрын

Nah 11/10

@LibertyLocalizer

5 жыл бұрын

Clickbait, intentional or otherwise, and no matter how severe, is am automatic one point deduction.

@gearoidgarvey8266

5 жыл бұрын

@@LibertyLocalizer fair enough I'll go with the one point reduction